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[2017-02-23 04:17:11] abbey : cool!
[2017-02-23 04:17:32] elmorte : I think it's silly, causes necessary fluctuations...but then as Arthur said, "you fckers love volatility"
[2017-02-23 04:17:42] Sultan Pepper : abbey: only 'cause i'm carefully crafting a slow short now
[2017-02-23 04:18:00] elmorte : unnecessary rather
[2017-02-23 04:18:02] mark121 : shit gona get biblical
[2017-02-23 04:18:13] MikeHunt : can you use leverage slider to maximise gains and minimise losses if you time it right?
[2017-02-23 04:18:23] Sultan Pepper : elmorte: it helps tie the price to mark price apparently
[2017-02-23 04:18:26] mark121 : not really
[2017-02-23 04:18:28] Sultan Pepper : learned that today
[2017-02-23 04:18:31] mark121 : MikeHunt
[2017-02-23 04:18:42] elmorte : Sultan Pepper: it would help even more if it wasn't on an 8-16hr delay
[2017-02-23 04:18:46] mark121 : thats not how it works
[2017-02-23 04:19:04] elmorte : I'm not arguing against funding, just against the way it is applied here
[2017-02-23 04:19:07] Sultan Pepper : mark121: according to bitmex_sam it is
[2017-02-23 04:19:12] BitMEX_John : MikeHunt: it will change your ROE % but your actual PNL is unchanged
[2017-02-23 04:19:14] elmorte : MikeHunt: only if you're about get liqd
[2017-02-23 04:19:26] mark121 : gotcha
[2017-02-23 04:20:26] MikeHunt : BitMEX_John: is it possible for RoE to be great than 100% or 100% = liq?
[2017-02-23 04:20:27] MikeHunt : just wanna check
[2017-02-23 04:20:31] Sultan Pepper : MikeHunt: i mean this in the nicest way, seriously. Don't you know this stuff? I kinda thought you'd been here for a while
[2017-02-23 04:20:51] thxforyourbtc! : MikeHunt: of course it can be more
[2017-02-23 04:20:59] BitMEX_John : MikeHunt: ROE% can be greater than 100%
[2017-02-23 04:21:03] MikeHunt : aha
[2017-02-23 04:21:03] mark121 : it can be much more and much less (negative)
[2017-02-23 04:21:06] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: just ignore ROE, its a useless matric
[2017-02-23 04:21:16] thxforyourbtc! : ^^
[2017-02-23 04:21:24] MikeHunt : Sultan Pepper: never been this screwed before so wanted to know all options
[2017-02-23 04:21:28] rapidtrades : metric*
[2017-02-23 04:21:38] MikeHunt : thanks for help guys
[2017-02-23 04:21:43] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: mine is -2000% so yes it can go above 100 lol
[2017-02-23 04:22:01] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: that makes my -90% look a lot better now lol
[2017-02-23 04:22:20] thxforyourbtc! : the second i open trade its usually + or - 100% instantly
[2017-02-23 04:22:32] MikeHunt : thxforyourbtc!: instant win? lol
[2017-02-23 04:22:46] mark121 : Sultan Pepper: that wouldnt make sense lol (bitmex john agrees)
[2017-02-23 04:22:54] MikeHunt : i was just worried my liq wasnt really my liq price and something was going on
[2017-02-23 04:22:55] mark121 : sory slow response
[2017-02-23 04:23:13] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: the liq shown is correct
[2017-02-23 04:23:30] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: ahh, my heartbeat just halved
[2017-02-23 04:23:35] MikeHunt : heart attack averted, touch wood
[2017-02-23 04:24:21] mark121 : MikeHunt, give yourself atleast 3 dollars, better 4, if u riding liquidation price
[2017-02-23 04:24:26] mark121 : cushion
[2017-02-23 04:25:02] MikeHunt : mark121: my liq is near $1300
[2017-02-23 04:25:04] mark121 : it rarely jumps 4
[2017-02-23 04:25:55] mark121 : heh ya, im referin to if u messin around on 100x
[2017-02-23 04:26:17] MikeHunt : mark121: oh right lol, most i ever go is 50
[2017-02-23 04:26:23] MikeHunt : thats with very small orders thou
[2017-02-23 04:27:52] mark121 : aye, imo it has utility midtrade, once uve established a profot cushion - if ur new best to keep it under 50, 15-25 is best, idunno alot ppl wud tell u 10x max lol
[2017-02-23 04:28:39] mark121 : makes sense as most are pretty clueless tho :p --
[2017-02-23 04:30:21] Sultan Pepper : mark121: [2017-02-23 02:24:52] BitMEX_John : ThatCEOGuy: the purpose of the funding fee is to anchor the swap contract price to the index price
[2017-02-23 04:31:30] MikeHunt : mark121: lol
[2017-02-23 04:31:58] mark121 : lol Sultan Pepper . .. that was.. out of the blue :p
[2017-02-23 04:32:21] Sultan Pepper : mark121: [23:22] mark121: Sultan Pepper: that wouldnt make sense lol (bitmex john agrees)
[2017-02-23 04:32:28] mark121 : i figure the purpose is to stock the insurance fund
[2017-02-23 04:32:38] mark121 : I wa srefering to
[2017-02-23 04:32:53] mark121 : MikeHunt's Q about moving the slider to maximize gains and mini losses
[2017-02-23 04:34:25] mark121 : maybe we crossed our wires there, wud be surprised is a staff member thought so lol
[2017-02-23 04:34:33] mark121 : Sultan Pepper: ^^
[2017-02-23 04:34:53] rangle : is there a history to see how much i paid for funding on swap?
[2017-02-23 04:35:02] mark121 : check ur wallet
[2017-02-23 04:35:23] rangle : curious for a closed position
[2017-02-23 04:35:43] rangle : nvm found it
[2017-02-23 04:36:42] MikeHunt : mark121: im thinking if u had the balance, supposing you were long 10x, price topped, you then slided back to 1x, u'd loose less as price dropped, then when bottomed, you went 10x again, you'd be making $ again
[2017-02-23 04:36:44] MikeHunt : or am i wrong?
[2017-02-23 04:37:28] mark121 : thats not how leverage works :p its not just a multiplier
[2017-02-23 04:37:46] MikeHunt : hmm
[2017-02-23 04:39:26] BitMEX_John : MikeHunt: when you move the slider you are changing the amount of margin available to the position, not the number of contracts or the value of the position itself
[2017-02-23 04:39:41] mark121 : well let me be specific, its not a multiplier of just ur net profits... the reason ud lower ur leverage is basically to give yourself more margin for error by moving liquidation price away
[2017-02-23 04:39:58] Sultan Pepper : MikeHunt: You're trolling, right?
[2017-02-23 04:40:11] mark121 : dont think so
[2017-02-23 04:40:27] MikeHunt : BitMEX_John: ahh i see
[2017-02-23 04:40:51] mark121 : the only other reason would be to help lower your potential for auto deleveraging
[2017-02-23 04:41:10] MikeHunt : Sultan Pepper: no i'd just rather ask dumb questions than make dumb mistakes
[2017-02-23 04:41:28] mark121 : as it is one of two variable factors in the calculation i believe
[2017-02-23 04:42:17] MikeHunt : /sentiment
[2017-02-23 04:42:19] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 44.04 / 55.96 Daily : 50.63 / 49.37 Weekly : 44.55 / 55.45 Monthly : 47.50 / 52.50```
[2017-02-23 04:42:30] BitMEX_John : mark121: that's correct, ADL takes into account leverage and profitability
[2017-02-23 04:42:41] Sultan Pepper : MikeHunt: by all means, ask away. I agree with that approach fully, but i *really* had the impression you knew all this shit
[2017-02-23 04:42:58] rangle : i had a tough lesson on funding today, closed a near $10 gain on my swap position, but paid 80% of my gains into funding that long
[2017-02-23 04:43:02] rapidtrades : Alex Jones: I got kicked out for bringing women home. What was the question again?
[2017-02-23 04:43:10] MikeHunt : Sultan Pepper: its just having -90% RoE and 1300 liq threw me off a bitr
[2017-02-23 04:43:11] rapidtrades : lol this livestream is pure gold
[2017-02-23 04:43:29] mark121 : they are unrelated mikehunt
[2017-02-23 04:43:31] yungyang : Sultan Pepper: you thought @MikeHunt knew his shit ?
[2017-02-23 04:43:43] yungyang : what says about you hmm
[2017-02-23 04:43:53] MikeHunt : been here less than 2 months
[2017-02-23 04:43:54] mark121 : lol! yung
[2017-02-23 04:44:02] elmorte : What's that saying about empty cans and noise?
[2017-02-23 04:44:05] Sultan Pepper : yungyang: i thought he at least knew how the site worked
[2017-02-23 04:44:16] MikeHunt : Sultan Pepper: not completely
[2017-02-23 04:44:22] Sultan Pepper : he was here when i got here
[2017-02-23 04:44:37] mark121 : yung drops a truthbomb about once every third funding it seems
[2017-02-23 04:44:38] elmorte : and you both like wordplay
[2017-02-23 04:44:47] Sultan Pepper : but i'm a forever-noob too
[2017-02-23 04:45:26] Sultan Pepper : elmorte: and a little lemon
[2017-02-23 04:46:17] mark121 : whos going all in long right now?!?! ;)
[2017-02-23 04:46:18] Sultan Pepper : MikeHunt: i guess i showed up right after you then!
[2017-02-23 04:48:31] MikeHunt : Sultan Pepper: its just wen you've lost a bit of money u become a little more paranoid about loosing the rest of it
[2017-02-23 04:48:39] mark121 : whos taking a 4th mortgage and sellin the children to go mad long right now?
[2017-02-23 04:49:38] mark121 : wheres all the bulls go lol
[2017-02-23 04:50:45] Sultan Pepper : MikeHunt: i hear ya. I've learned a bit about playing safe since i got here
[2017-02-23 04:51:06] mark121 : trading is risk management
[2017-02-23 04:51:21] mark121 : u can be an awesome trader, but if u dont limit your losses, youll go broke
[2017-02-23 04:52:25] Sultan Pepper : I feel like i should close my 100 contract short here. I'll get 0.0005 profit
[2017-02-23 04:52:35] Sultan Pepper : ;)
[2017-02-23 04:55:33] mark121 : most people have difficulty in selling at a loss, i.e. gettin stuck with a 50% loss for example and instead of closing, desperation and hope kicks in and they attempt to slowly sell when necessary (or cover) to add margin all the while there entry is gettin further and further.and the sell or covers are costing u massively
[2017-02-23 04:56:30] mark121 : once a perosn is liquidated, that 50% loss doesnt seem so bad in retrospect
[2017-02-23 04:59:33] elmorte : The problem is you don't know when it's gonna turn around
[2017-02-23 05:00:34] elmorte : I closed at a 65% loss before...if I held I'd be maybe 10% down
[2017-02-23 05:03:11] mark121 : yep, that wud be the other side of that issue
[2017-02-23 05:03:43] elmorte : With bitcoin, long patience is the key. And I mean long in both senses of the word here :)
[2017-02-23 05:03:54] mark121 : in general, consistency is best, closing tends to in the end far a person better assuming they have no idea where its going
[2017-02-23 05:04:06] ThatCEOGuy : elmorte: Patience isn't really helping me here
[2017-02-23 05:04:14] elmorte : ThatCEOGuy: are you long?
[2017-02-23 05:04:22] ThatCEOGuy : elmorte: Short
[2017-02-23 05:04:39] elmorte : Then you missed my point bud :)
[2017-02-23 05:05:19] MikeHunt : elmorte: hes knew here, spent big on his first trade
[2017-02-23 05:05:58] elmorte : Been there...can you average out your entry without over-leveraging yourself? @ThatCEOGuy
[2017-02-23 05:06:32] ThatCEOGuy : elmorte: Not likely, I tried averaging up at first, but that just made it worse
[2017-02-23 05:06:40] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: same here
[2017-02-23 05:08:30] elmorte : k...higher volatility requires higher bands...I learnt that the hard way too
[2017-02-23 05:09:02] elmorte : wider bands rather
[2017-02-23 05:12:40] shery : /price
[2017-02-23 05:12:45] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1129.09 (-0.26%) Bitfinex : 1127.70 (0.02%) The Woodchipper : 1111.00 (1.12%) itBit : 1128.44 (0.02%) Kraken : 1126.74 (-0.04%) GDAX : 1132.57 (0.19%) ```
[2017-02-23 05:17:19] mark121 : here comes the funk
[2017-02-23 05:17:27] MikeHunt : mark121: dump?
[2017-02-23 05:18:03] mark121 : Likely the opposite of a not-dump ;)
[2017-02-23 05:18:31] ThruTheFloor : mark121: So... a dump?
[2017-02-23 05:18:37] rapidtrades : looks like it wants to go higer again
[2017-02-23 05:18:51] mark121 : looks as if u played this gam befoe thruthefloor :)
[2017-02-23 05:18:54] rapidtrades : bastards are not letting it go down again
[2017-02-23 05:19:09] ThruTheFloor : To the moon!!! ┗(°0°)┛
[2017-02-23 05:19:26] rapidtrades : they're playing with fire tho, ETF will slaughter them
[2017-02-23 05:19:27] mark121 : lol rapid trades
[2017-02-23 05:20:14] MikeHunt : hmm so with my short
[2017-02-23 05:20:20] MikeHunt : if i set a red line at 1200
[2017-02-23 05:20:29] MikeHunt : increased leverage to bring liq down to 1200
[2017-02-23 05:20:38] mark121 : ud be more than fine
[2017-02-23 05:20:39] MikeHunt : used freed up balance
[2017-02-23 05:20:44] MikeHunt : for a long
[2017-02-23 05:20:53] mark121 : rapidtrades
[2017-02-23 05:21:00] mark121 : u trollin?
[2017-02-23 05:21:10] MikeHunt : mark121: u think etf will pass?
[2017-02-23 05:21:18] mark121 : no
[2017-02-23 05:21:21] rapidtrades : nope price action is the same as before every push higher
[2017-02-23 05:21:30] mark121 : lol ..
[2017-02-23 05:21:42] rapidtrades : but the gains are $10-30 while the drop will be 200-300$
[2017-02-23 05:21:50] MikeHunt : i think they want to get it as high as possible before decision day
[2017-02-23 05:21:59] rapidtrades : they're all on leverage
[2017-02-23 05:22:07] aandy : /sentiment
[2017-02-23 05:22:09] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 62.33 / 37.67 Daily : 48.92 / 51.08 Weekly : 44.55 / 55.45 Monthly : 47.51 / 52.49```
[2017-02-23 05:22:35] mark121 : literally BTC has not reacted even slightly (price wise) to a piece of news in the last 6 months
[2017-02-23 05:22:58] MikeHunt : mark121: what about pboc news?
[2017-02-23 05:23:04] mark121 : not at all
[2017-02-23 05:23:36] mark121 : its fakenews with reference to its affect on price action
[2017-02-23 05:23:48] rapidtrades : mark121: respectfully mark, you're an idiot
[2017-02-23 05:23:56] mark121 : lol
[2017-02-23 05:24:03] mark121 : sadly
[2017-02-23 05:24:14] mark121 : it is you my friend (respectfully)
[2017-02-23 05:24:21] mark121 : but hey, thats the point
[2017-02-23 05:25:13] mark121 : unfortunately i am 100% certain and its not even debatable so -- I suggest u figure out why that is, before callin any1 an idiot
[2017-02-23 05:25:34] ThruTheFloor : Pretty sure we crashed last two PBoC announcements
[2017-02-23 05:25:39] mark121 : lol
[2017-02-23 05:25:43] rapidtrades : it's cause ur stupid that's why @mark121
[2017-02-23 05:25:53] mark121 : dude
[2017-02-23 05:26:03] mark121 : ur ignorance will keep u clueless rapidtrades
[2017-02-23 05:26:25] rapidtrades : go here https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/
[2017-02-23 05:26:29] rapidtrades : for the stupid ppl
[2017-02-23 05:26:36] mark121 : thruthefloor, yes it seemed that way, thats the point - those in control, the big players, use those times short the market, etc
[2017-02-23 05:26:48] l3f : rapidtrades: up or down bro
[2017-02-23 05:26:48] mark121 : whats wrong with u
[2017-02-23 05:27:03] ThruTheFloor : mark121: Ok, know it all, go ahead. Ignore all news. See how that works out for you. But dont come here asking why the price randomly drops like a stone from time to time for no reason
[2017-02-23 05:27:18] mark121 : huh
[2017-02-23 05:27:20] mark121 : lmao
[2017-02-23 05:27:32] mark121 : "whats wrong with u" was for rapidtrades
[2017-02-23 05:27:41] mark121 : not sure why u gettin all defensive thruthefloor lmao
[2017-02-23 05:28:11] l3f : ThruTheFloor: buy dips bro
[2017-02-23 05:28:13] rapidtrades : mark121: its cos noone wants to be talked down by a simpleton
[2017-02-23 05:28:52] ThruTheFloor : l3f: Not the point here. He's saying news has no effect on price whatsoever.
[2017-02-23 05:29:06] l3f : ThruTheFloor: price usually drops fire
[2017-02-23 05:29:08] l3f : first*
[2017-02-23 05:29:16] l3f : news just explains why it dropped
[2017-02-23 05:29:24] mark121 : lol
[2017-02-23 05:29:35] mark121 : what im telling u
[2017-02-23 05:29:37] mark121 : is factual
[2017-02-23 05:29:58] mark121 : anyhow
[2017-02-23 05:29:59] c.l : x17 mistype 1134 :)
[2017-02-23 05:30:06] ThruTheFloor : So it's just a coincidence, every single time? Insider trading conspiracy? Price is psychic?
[2017-02-23 05:30:13] mark121 : do ur thang fellas
[2017-02-23 05:30:19] mark121 : its why btc is so fkn profitable :)
[2017-02-23 05:33:29] Coconuter : green dildoooooowww
[2017-02-23 05:33:45] mark121 : wud make a good socio/psych example or casestudy :
[2017-02-23 05:33:45] ThruTheFloor : To the moon!!! ┗(°0°)┛
[2017-02-23 05:33:47] Coconuter : here we come
[2017-02-23 05:34:03] ThruTheFloor : We need a moon bot
[2017-02-23 05:34:12] shery : /moon
[2017-02-23 05:34:25] ThruTheFloor : Someone less lazy than me has to make it
[2017-02-23 05:34:47] mark121 : u guys kill me
[2017-02-23 05:34:47] mark121 : lmao
[2017-02-23 05:36:23] ThruTheFloor : There are 473 bots here. Like, what do they all do? I've only seen like 2.
[2017-02-23 05:36:44] ThruTheFloor : It's creepy they're just watching, waiting, but for what?
[2017-02-23 05:37:01] Coconuter : /joke
[2017-02-23 05:37:05] trollbot : ``` What does the Trump administration use instead of emails? Alternative fax. Edit: This is not a political statement. I do not have an agenda. This is a bad pun for you guys to enjoy. Wake up sheeple!```
[2017-02-23 05:37:41] mark121 : i assume rapidtrades and thruthefloor, u guys are relatively new traders? (no offense at all)
[2017-02-23 05:37:48] mark121 : jus wondering
[2017-02-23 05:38:01] ThruTheFloor : There's trollbot and REKT, what do the other 400 do?
[2017-02-23 05:38:11] ThruTheFloor : /dump
[2017-02-23 05:38:13] ThruTheFloor : /pump
[2017-02-23 05:38:20] mark121 : one tells jokes :p
[2017-02-23 05:38:25] ThruTheFloor : /sudo rm -f /
[2017-02-23 05:38:37] mark121 : gues that is trollbot
[2017-02-23 05:38:53] ThruTheFloor : mark121: What about the other 470 tho?
[2017-02-23 05:39:06] mark121 : backups
[2017-02-23 05:39:08] ThruTheFloor : That's a lot of bots that dont talk to us
[2017-02-23 05:39:09] mark121 : :p
[2017-02-23 05:39:17] ThruTheFloor : /jump
[2017-02-23 05:39:19] ThruTheFloor : /quote
[2017-02-23 05:39:21] ThruTheFloor : /hello
[2017-02-23 05:39:29] ThruTheFloor : ...
[2017-02-23 05:42:01] MikeHunt : could be listening for orders
[2017-02-23 05:44:02] ThruTheFloor : So trading bots are included in the count? Makes sense I guess
[2017-02-23 05:46:31] ThruTheFloor : Not very fun though
[2017-02-23 05:46:48] mark121 : figured u knew that and was jus havin fun :]
[2017-02-23 05:47:11] ThruTheFloor : I'm so fukking bored
[2017-02-23 05:47:30] mark121 : +1 guess what the other 400 bots do game
[2017-02-23 05:48:13] ThruTheFloor : Who wants to play a game?
[2017-02-23 05:48:30] mark121 : price about to break
[2017-02-23 05:48:36] ThruTheFloor : LIES
[2017-02-23 05:48:45] ThruTheFloor : DONT TEASE ME LIKE THAT
[2017-02-23 05:49:10] mark121 : no tease, promise
[2017-02-23 05:49:18] ThruTheFloor : IF YOU GIVE ME AN ERECTION YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT
[2017-02-23 05:49:26] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: yes
[2017-02-23 05:49:35] mark121 : u long or short
[2017-02-23 05:49:40] mark121 : mr. floor
[2017-02-23 05:49:46] ThruTheFloor : mark121: Why not both?
[2017-02-23 05:49:55] mark121 : was about to say or both
[2017-02-23 05:50:31] ThruTheFloor : It looks like we might head up a bit more soon.
[2017-02-23 05:50:48] mark121 : on opposite day id agree
[2017-02-23 05:51:10] MikeHunt : perhaps 1 final push for 1150
[2017-02-23 05:51:14] MikeHunt : if it fails then dump i guess
[2017-02-23 05:51:32] mark121 : chart doesnt allow for that option Mr Hunt
[2017-02-23 05:51:51] MikeHunt : mark121: what u mean? finex wall is huge
[2017-02-23 05:51:57] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: That's my guess, either 1150 or ATH, we fail and we go down. I dont think we can go much higher before ETF
[2017-02-23 05:52:20] mark121 : lol
[2017-02-23 05:52:22] Papou : what finex wall?
[2017-02-23 05:52:26] Papou : i dont see any walls lol
[2017-02-23 05:52:38] MikeHunt : around 1150 it peaked at $3.7M
[2017-02-23 05:52:46] MikeHunt : sell wall
[2017-02-23 05:52:57] mark121 : uh.
[2017-02-23 05:53:18] Papou : like one single sell wall at 1150 for 3 mil
[2017-02-23 05:53:26] mark121 : lol :]
[2017-02-23 05:53:27] Papou : or all the orders up to 1150 cumulaitve 3 mil?
[2017-02-23 05:53:37] MikeHunt : Papou:yeh that
[2017-02-23 05:53:43] Papou : thats nothing
[2017-02-23 05:53:43] Papou : lol
[2017-02-23 05:53:45] mark121 : pluus bots can make or break a wall in miliseconds
[2017-02-23 05:53:49] rapidtrades : BAN MARK FOR LOLing
[2017-02-23 05:53:56] mark121 : and if it sa bid wall, short into it
[2017-02-23 05:53:56] MikeHunt : Papou: biggest ive seen so far
[2017-02-23 05:53:59] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: lol
[2017-02-23 05:54:03] mark121 : lol
[2017-02-23 05:54:09] rapidtrades : mark121: STOP
[2017-02-23 05:54:11] Papou : sadly we will keep going up
[2017-02-23 05:54:24] Papou : way too much consolidation above 1100
[2017-02-23 05:54:25] Papou : for it to dump
[2017-02-23 05:54:31] mark121 : dont worry papou
[2017-02-23 05:54:33] MikeHunt : Papou: how much do u think?
[2017-02-23 05:54:39] mark121 : we shall not
[2017-02-23 05:54:50] Papou : i dont think we dip below 1100 honestly
[2017-02-23 05:54:56] mark121 : lol
[2017-02-23 05:54:57] Papou : i think we go to 1200-1300 before etf
[2017-02-23 05:55:05] rapidtrades : mark121: THAT'S IT
[2017-02-23 05:55:07] Papou : and if etf no, 1100, etf yes 1500
[2017-02-23 05:55:07] ThruTheFloor : Papou: You wish
[2017-02-23 05:55:09] rapidtrades : THAT'S UR LAST LOL
[2017-02-23 05:55:20] Papou : this pump isnt due to etf
[2017-02-23 05:55:31] ThruTheFloor : Due to anticipation of ETF
[2017-02-23 05:55:35] Papou : its just bitcoin getting better distro around the world and stronger hands coming into play
[2017-02-23 05:55:35] mark121 : not at all
[2017-02-23 05:55:42] mark121 : mr floor
[2017-02-23 05:55:47] mark121 : in all honesty
[2017-02-23 05:55:53] mark121 : no offense :D
[2017-02-23 05:56:09] Papou : they tried to dump already like 3 times
[2017-02-23 05:56:11] Papou : 1100 holds
[2017-02-23 05:56:13] ThruTheFloor : mark121: I wish trollbox had block/ignore
[2017-02-23 05:56:23] mark121 : thats sad
[2017-02-23 05:56:31] narnarfromnarnia : let's go up
[2017-02-23 05:56:32] narnarfromnarnia : moar
[2017-02-23 05:56:36] Papou : we will
[2017-02-23 05:56:40] Papou : 1160-1180 soon
[2017-02-23 05:56:41] ThruTheFloor : Papou: Man, Bitcoin is still same where is was 5 years ago. No one uses it. It's all just speculation.
[2017-02-23 05:56:44] Papou : we are consolidating
[2017-02-23 05:56:55] Papou : thru, no one needs to use the payment system
[2017-02-23 05:57:00] Papou : they are using the store of value
[2017-02-23 05:57:00] ThruTheFloor : No inherent value. $500 is just as valid a price as $1500
[2017-02-23 05:57:06] mark121 : lmao
[2017-02-23 05:57:13] Papou : no because the price comes from how much is being bought
[2017-02-23 05:57:18] mark121 : ya, about that ignore function
[2017-02-23 05:57:21] Papou : and there is just more buys then sells
[2017-02-23 05:57:25] MikeHunt : Papou: http://media.coindesk.com/uploads/2017/02/btc-fractals-q2-2017-price-signature.png
[2017-02-23 05:57:27] rapidtrades : mark121: lmao is just a variation of lol
[2017-02-23 05:57:28] Papou : nobody wants to sell under 1100 now
[2017-02-23 05:57:33] rapidtrades : stop it mark NAO
[2017-02-23 05:57:47] mark121 : oh boy lol
[2017-02-23 05:57:58] rapidtrades : /ban mark121
[2017-02-23 05:58:17] mark121 : u guys r a cornocopia of confusion :D
[2017-02-23 05:58:18] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: It's a start, good job.
[2017-02-23 05:58:20] MikeHunt : Papou: papo u see that picture? same pattern in all previous bubbles
[2017-02-23 05:58:23] mark121 : no inherent value lol
[2017-02-23 05:58:30] Papou : mike its fud to make u dump ur coins cheap
[2017-02-23 05:58:36] ThruTheFloor : Papou: Until it starts dropping like a stone.
[2017-02-23 05:58:37] Papou : they did a massive bear trap
[2017-02-23 05:58:46] mark121 : papou u trolling?
[2017-02-23 05:58:47] MikeHunt : Papou: its from coindesk iirc, they analysed all previous dumps
[2017-02-23 05:58:53] Papou : stole cheap coins from china
[2017-02-23 05:58:57] MikeHunt : pump n dumps*
[2017-02-23 05:59:02] mark121 : hunt
[2017-02-23 05:59:06] mark121 : dont listen to em
[2017-02-23 05:59:11] mark121 : ur fine
[2017-02-23 05:59:22] Papou : we have been pumping for over 2 years now
[2017-02-23 05:59:23] mark121 : they likely malicious
[2017-02-23 05:59:24] Papou : its not over lol
[2017-02-23 05:59:49] Papou : right mikehunt isnt fine
[2017-02-23 05:59:52] Papou : he shorted 930
[2017-02-23 06:00:01] Papou : now u guys are shorting 1120 and gonna get rekt soon
[2017-02-23 06:00:04] mark121 : just because u operate from under a vale, doesn't mean its not over :)
[2017-02-23 06:00:07] MikeHunt : Papou: 1030 lol
[2017-02-23 06:00:25] MikeHunt : Papou: u long right now?
[2017-02-23 06:00:27] Papou : lol dude its not dumping
[2017-02-23 06:00:39] Papou : i went long mike 1050
[2017-02-23 06:00:46] Papou : i had a small short 1033
[2017-02-23 06:00:50] Papou : reversed it 1050
[2017-02-23 06:00:54] mark121 : it wont make it to 1030 in actual BTC price today, but maybe contracts on here will get shorted well beyond that
[2017-02-23 06:01:03] ThruTheFloor : Papou: Yes, Bitcoin will just go up and up and up forever just to make you happy. Just like it did in 2013
[2017-02-23 06:01:16] Papou : thru this isnt 2013
[2017-02-23 06:01:18] MikeHunt : Papou: u think this pump n dump can defy the pattern of the previous 6 ?
[2017-02-23 06:01:19] mark121 : PT is like 1050ish, in one or two stages
[2017-02-23 06:01:20] Papou : 2013 was a massive bubble
[2017-02-23 06:01:30] Papou : this is a two year solid buying
[2017-02-23 06:01:34] Papou : going on 3
[2017-02-23 06:01:38] rapidtrades : and 1.5 years of pumping is not a bubble?
[2017-02-23 06:01:40] ThruTheFloor : Papou: lol yes everything is totally different now. It'll never go down again. Ok
[2017-02-23 06:01:47] Papou : nobody dumping man, and especially without margin in china, hard to dump now
[2017-02-23 06:01:48] mark121 : dude, ur problem is in thinking "they cant dump it, ppl buying 1100"
[2017-02-23 06:01:59] mark121 : they can do whatever they want, dont kid yoiurself
[2017-02-23 06:02:02] Papou : thru we can bounce from 1200-1500 sure
[2017-02-23 06:02:10] Papou : its not going under 1100
[2017-02-23 06:02:11] Papou : watch
[2017-02-23 06:02:16] mark121 : not gona happen until next big rally
[2017-02-23 06:02:27] mark121 : springtime
[2017-02-23 06:02:29] ThruTheFloor : Papou: Again, just wait till it starts dropping like a stone. When people see their money disappearing they'll be more than happy to sell to save what they can
[2017-02-23 06:02:32] Papou : u think bitcoin is a shitcoin man, shitcoins retrace 100% sure
[2017-02-23 06:02:37] ThruTheFloor : It's panic. It happens every time
[2017-02-23 06:02:48] Papou : thru, they have already tried dumping thius
[2017-02-23 06:02:50] Papou : not happening
[2017-02-23 06:02:52] mark121 : lol
[2017-02-23 06:02:59] Papou : dumps get bought and back up plus some
[2017-02-23 06:03:00] mark121 : u trollin right papou?
[2017-02-23 06:03:07] ThruTheFloor : Papou: Look, just go to /r/bitcoin and keep your delusional perma-bull non-sense there
[2017-02-23 06:03:07] Papou : there is new hands coming into play dude
[2017-02-23 06:03:18] Papou : 2013-2017 is 4 years of new investors coming in
[2017-02-23 06:03:19] rapidtrades : he's not trolling price will keep going on forever
[2017-02-23 06:03:22] rapidtrades : this is not a bubble
[2017-02-23 06:03:22] Papou : not the 10 people trading it in 2013
[2017-02-23 06:03:31] mark121 : lol
[2017-02-23 06:03:38] Papou : u are too stuck with bitcoin 2013, get out of the past man
[2017-02-23 06:03:39] mark121 : i do agree, its not a bubble, but price moves up and down
[2017-02-23 06:03:44] Papou : bitcoin has grown massively since then
[2017-02-23 06:03:50] Papou : im surpsed its still this cheap honestly
[2017-02-23 06:03:55] Papou : we shouldve been at 10k+ by now
[2017-02-23 06:04:01] mark121 : well, ul be exttra surprised shortly
[2017-02-23 06:04:04] Papou : they are shaking weak hands
[2017-02-23 06:04:05] ThruTheFloor : Papou: Don't worry bro. When the price drops I'll have the suicide hotline ready for you when you need it.
[2017-02-23 06:04:21] ThruTheFloor : For now, back to your /r/bitcoin containment board.
[2017-02-23 06:04:23] Papou : thru i bought my bitcoins at 580 in august
[2017-02-23 06:04:24] ThruTheFloor : Get out
[2017-02-23 06:04:29] mark121 : hes going to proven wrong in a moment
[2017-02-23 06:04:32] mark121 : be*
[2017-02-23 06:04:33] Papou : and ive made plenty, its not dropping either way
[2017-02-23 06:04:45] mark121 : poor papou
[2017-02-23 06:04:49] mark121 : likely malicious tho
[2017-02-23 06:04:53] mark121 : tryin to get ppl to buy
[2017-02-23 06:04:55] rapidtrades : Papou: where's ur liquidation price?
[2017-02-23 06:05:04] Papou : non liquitable
[2017-02-23 06:05:07] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: 1.5 years of pumping is secular trend
[2017-02-23 06:05:20] rapidtrades : mark121: shut up, he's just an idiot like u
[2017-02-23 06:05:21] arbitrage101 : secular trends can last a decade
[2017-02-23 06:05:45] ThruTheFloor : arbitrage101: Bitcoin's market cap is too small for that to apply here.
[2017-02-23 06:06:05] MikeHunt : ETF is like winter for the nazis, thats ur deadline
[2017-02-23 06:06:06] InvalidUser : The market is sideways for the next little bit. It might go down a bit, but nothing to worry about
[2017-02-23 06:06:07] mark121 : rapidtrades, i hope for your sake u one day realize your sillyness
[2017-02-23 06:06:13] ThruTheFloor : Arguably since the first run up to $100 could be consider one big bubble to now.
[2017-02-23 06:06:13] mark121 : seriously
[2017-02-23 06:06:14] mark121 : lol
[2017-02-23 06:06:16] Papou : bitcoin is artificially small market cap
[2017-02-23 06:06:20] Papou : its hardcore supression
[2017-02-23 06:06:25] mark121 : its funny but if u seririous about it all, a littl sad too
[2017-02-23 06:06:54] ThruTheFloor : Papou: Yes, by the MAN. Because all the normies are lining up to use this convoluted shit with hardly any real world use
[2017-02-23 06:07:02] MikeHunt : bitcoin is the modern tullip
[2017-02-23 06:07:05] Papou : well all i know is we keep going up and up so
[2017-02-23 06:07:14] mark121 : u call a nearl trillion dollars drug market
[2017-02-23 06:07:17] mark121 : harldy anything?
[2017-02-23 06:07:20] Papou : u guys have fun shorting a bull market
[2017-02-23 06:07:23] ThruTheFloor : Only people who even know what BTC is are criminals, nerds, and speculators
[2017-02-23 06:07:25] rapidtrades : fees are now $1, this is a pos not even good as a currency anymore
[2017-02-23 06:07:31] mark121 : not true now tho
[2017-02-23 06:07:35] Papou : because it will never be currency
[2017-02-23 06:07:37] Papou : bitcoin is gold
[2017-02-23 06:07:44] Papou : not currency
[2017-02-23 06:07:46] rapidtrades : its just buying low to sell to a greater fool
[2017-02-23 06:07:46] MikeHunt : Papou: lol
[2017-02-23 06:07:52] Papou : thjey will create a currency and peg it to bitcoin
[2017-02-23 06:08:09] Papou : we will be at a bitcoin standard soon
[2017-02-23 06:08:09] InvalidUser : /\
[2017-02-23 06:08:09] ThruTheFloor : Now we have problems, with unconfirmed txs and a possible hardfork, everyone is arguing. this a mess more than ever
[2017-02-23 06:08:14] mark121 : bitcoin is the only real currency left, or rather "money" if ud like to use it as that
[2017-02-23 06:08:16] rogue : Papou: Who they?
[2017-02-23 06:08:20] ThruTheFloor : THEY
[2017-02-23 06:08:27] mark121 : and are anal
[2017-02-23 06:08:33] Papou : world governments
[2017-02-23 06:08:44] Papou : fiat is uncontrollable and will always collapse
[2017-02-23 06:08:44] ThruTheFloor : The New World Government*
[2017-02-23 06:08:52] Papou : due to the inherent debt its started off with
[2017-02-23 06:09:01] Papou : we need to go to back to commodity money
[2017-02-23 06:09:05] Papou : and bitcoin will replace gold
[2017-02-23 06:09:19] MikeHunt : hahaha
[2017-02-23 06:09:27] rogue : Papou: Bitcoin is not sovereign enough
[2017-02-23 06:09:27] ThruTheFloor : What makes you think Bitcoin will ever replace gold?
[2017-02-23 06:09:28] mark121 : the ETF imo has 0% chance - every war the US has waged inthe last 10 years started with the invadee country announcing their desire to stop taking payment for oil in USD
[2017-02-23 06:09:31] ThruTheFloor : Because you say so?
[2017-02-23 06:09:35] MikeHunt : bitcoin a less than decade old currency vs 6000+ year physical asset
[2017-02-23 06:09:43] ThruTheFloor : Next year Bitcoin could be worthless
[2017-02-23 06:09:45] Papou : u guys laugh but whats the price right now?
[2017-02-23 06:09:52] Papou : what was the price a week ago?
[2017-02-23 06:09:54] mark121 : poor papou
[2017-02-23 06:10:01] ThruTheFloor : Papou: Turnips
[2017-02-23 06:10:05] Papou : poor papou is making too much ROE
[2017-02-23 06:10:06] mark121 : whats price in 2 hours papou?
[2017-02-23 06:10:08] ThruTheFloor : Real estate
[2017-02-23 06:10:12] rapidtrades : Papou: what was the price 3.3 years ago?
[2017-02-23 06:10:13] ThruTheFloor : Beanie babies
[2017-02-23 06:10:17] Papou : mark121 probably 1140 in 2 hours
[2017-02-23 06:10:25] ThruTheFloor : idgaf what the price is right now
[2017-02-23 06:10:25] MikeHunt : Papou: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania
[2017-02-23 06:10:34] mark121 : papou, sub 1100
[2017-02-23 06:10:49] rapidtrades : this is a major bubble that has to retrace 50% at some point
[2017-02-23 06:10:50] mark121 : no doubt
[2017-02-23 06:10:58] rapidtrades : possibly even 80%
[2017-02-23 06:11:08] Papou : thruthefloor, just to be nice, when you decide to finally buy back into bitcoin at above 2000, ill give you a $50 discount OTC trade
[2017-02-23 06:11:11] Papou : deal?
[2017-02-23 06:11:15] mark121 : look at XMR price
[2017-02-23 06:11:20] mark121 : nuff said
[2017-02-23 06:11:28] Papou : ill sell you 10 bitcoins at $50 discount at 2k
[2017-02-23 06:11:36] Papou : just so u can feed ur family one day again
[2017-02-23 06:11:46] ThruTheFloor : The bubble started when we hit $100, I wouldn't be surprised if we hit $25k/BTC to match gold. Everyone realized how stupid and impractical it is and we drop to $250/BTC. Just watch
[2017-02-23 06:12:02] MikeHunt : look at lifetime bitcoin price chart
[2017-02-23 06:12:04] MikeHunt : the bubble is huge
[2017-02-23 06:12:08] rogue : rapidtrades: 80% will get us back to pre-halvening prices. Very unlikely imo.
[2017-02-23 06:12:15] MikeHunt : it looks exactly like the tullip price curve
[2017-02-23 06:12:22] MikeHunt : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania#/media/File:Tulip_price_index1.svg
[2017-02-23 06:12:26] Papou : well keep shorting bitcoin then
[2017-02-23 06:12:32] Papou : have fun
[2017-02-23 06:13:18] mark121 : Papou, if u r so confifent
[2017-02-23 06:13:23] mark121 : why u have no leveragr
[2017-02-23 06:13:31] mark121 : literally u are 1x u said
[2017-02-23 06:13:35] rogue : Papou: accept you can't see the future
[2017-02-23 06:13:48] MikeHunt : click on All .... http://www.coindesk.com/price/
[2017-02-23 06:13:51] mark121 : he cant see 15 mins from now
[2017-02-23 06:13:57] ThruTheFloor : To the moon!!! ┗(°0°)┛
[2017-02-23 06:14:02] mark121 : mikehunt stop
[2017-02-23 06:14:23] mark121 : need ppl to profit from :)(
[2017-02-23 06:14:36] Papou : just because you guys are probably at -500% ROE right now sweating, fuding in the trollbox wont save u
[2017-02-23 06:14:37] Papou : sorry
[2017-02-23 06:14:46] rogue : Papou in real life: https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/agvKQRx_460sv.mp4
[2017-02-23 06:14:48] ThruTheFloor : We are all here to profit. But delusion is unhealthy
[2017-02-23 06:14:53] mark121 : papou, u trade with no leverage
[2017-02-23 06:14:56] ThruTheFloor : and dangerous when dealing with money
[2017-02-23 06:15:03] mark121 : u clearly dont put ur money where ur mouth is
[2017-02-23 06:15:06] ThruTheFloor : mark121: He's probably trolling
[2017-02-23 06:15:10] Papou : mark121 i trade with 5x-10x max
[2017-02-23 06:15:15] Papou : but im not liquitable
[2017-02-23 06:15:33] rogue : liquitable?
[2017-02-23 06:15:42] mark121 : meh gets point across
[2017-02-23 06:16:03] mark121 : his btc thoughts are more than enuf to attack
[2017-02-23 06:16:05] mark121 : lol
[2017-02-23 06:16:28] daveberns1 : wow shorts dont even get a premium anymore?
[2017-02-23 06:16:31] ThruTheFloor : Papou: Dude, imagine how much money tou could make if you were 100x when price hits 25k!!
[2017-02-23 06:16:32] daveberns1 : what haeppended
[2017-02-23 06:16:43] daveberns1 : earlier today is was like 400% annualized
[2017-02-23 06:16:45] Papou : thru impossible lol
[2017-02-23 06:16:51] rogue : I am just asking, maybe the Webster is adding Liquitable next year and Papou knows.
[2017-02-23 06:16:53] Papou : u will get ADL way before any serious profit
[2017-02-23 06:17:09] mark121 : anywya Papou, im jus teasing but just FYI, you need to shake off iur bias (which is pretty clear) -- and analyze objectively
[2017-02-23 06:17:19] rogue : +1
[2017-02-23 06:17:22] Papou : i am mark121, bitcoin is a deflationary asset.
[2017-02-23 06:17:24] ThruTheFloor : Papou: So then open another, no biggie, still more profit than being 1x. 100 times more profit actually
[2017-02-23 06:17:25] Papou : shouldnt bear it too long
[2017-02-23 06:17:59] Papou : and if u did your research you wouldve seen the economic crisis in the world looming
[2017-02-23 06:18:07] Papou : bitcoin is their savior
[2017-02-23 06:18:17] mark121 : papou, price wil stil fluctuate
[2017-02-23 06:18:23] Papou : yes, between 1200-1500