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[2017-02-23 01:36:55] paper : we all have our reasons for wanting it to stay in the hundreds or low thousands...but, we just have to adapt to reality when ships start sailing!
[2017-02-23 01:37:05] sleger : yeah who cares paying 75c when you can send as many bitcoins as you want
[2017-02-23 01:37:21] thxforyourbtc! : Only real short term risk is a small drop if etf gets rejected....which i think it will reject. But we may not get info till mar11 and could be alot higher by then
[2017-02-23 01:37:24] paper : you're not a true btc bull if you want it to supermoon, but it is!
[2017-02-23 01:37:35] MikeHunt : DorianWhack-A-Moto: strong leadership can bring unity in the end, out of btc/ltc & eth, btc has the weakest leadership and ltc the strongest
[2017-02-23 01:37:46] thxforyourbtc! : sleger: oh....you are a bull i see
[2017-02-23 01:38:00] DorianWhack-A-Moto : -_-: if the spammers are state sponsored then money is no issue. A government that wanted to cripple bitcoin could throw a lot of money on spam txs with a high fee
[2017-02-23 01:38:22] -_- : well shit
[2017-02-23 01:38:26] -_- : better buy litecoin then
[2017-02-23 01:38:52] paper : 1500$ before sec announcement is a real possibility
[2017-02-23 01:38:57] DorianWhack-A-Moto : lol yeah LTC dont interest me. btc and xmr are the only cryptos im barracking for right now
[2017-02-23 01:39:08] paper : open air above
[2017-02-23 01:39:13] MikeHunt : DorianWhack-A-Moto: LTC could come out on top
[2017-02-23 01:40:00] DorianWhack-A-Moto : MikeHunt: i've got nothing against LTC but its been plodding along for years and i've not seen much real world use for it. Are there any stores that accept it natively?
[2017-02-23 01:40:17] MikeHunt : DorianWhack-A-Moto: it really depends if charlie lee can gain control and push sw/ln through
[2017-02-23 01:40:47] MikeHunt : DorianWhack-A-Moto: atm particularly with sw, miners are revolting
[2017-02-23 01:40:57] MikeHunt : the test is if he can handle them
[2017-02-23 01:41:01] MikeHunt : yes = bullish
[2017-02-23 01:41:03] MikeHunt : no = bearish
[2017-02-23 01:41:16] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Miners against LTC segwit?
[2017-02-23 01:41:22] MikeHunt : yes
[2017-02-23 01:41:26] -_- : some
[2017-02-23 01:41:40] -_- : some ltc pools are also btc pools
[2017-02-23 01:41:51] -_- : so if they say no to btc segwit i assume they say no to ltc segwit
[2017-02-23 01:42:03] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Miners are the 'voters' in crypto, but market prices is what drives them. They'll follow whatever is more profitable
[2017-02-23 01:42:13] MikeHunt : -_-: the difference is BTC doesnt have a charlie lee type figure to push it through
[2017-02-23 01:42:26] -_- : which will kill ltc for sure
[2017-02-23 01:42:46] MikeHunt : also Lee has his bro at BTCC to back him up
[2017-02-23 01:43:14] MikeHunt : if LTC stay as it is it will go to the dustbin,
[2017-02-23 01:43:24] MikeHunt : charlie can turn it around
[2017-02-23 01:43:32] MikeHunt : any spin off will inevitably die
[2017-02-23 01:44:02] yungyang : MikeHunt: dummy
[2017-02-23 01:44:09] MikeHunt : yungyang: hey ting tong
[2017-02-23 01:44:15] yungyang : MikeHunt: sup
[2017-02-23 01:44:29] paper : just put in some high-ball 3&4k$ sell orders but i doubt they'd fill until at least after the summer
[2017-02-23 01:44:53] MikeHunt : paper: why do it now?
[2017-02-23 01:46:11] abbey : i used 0.0016btc tx miner fee 3 hours ago to send 1broker btc, that went fast, in minutes.
[2017-02-23 01:46:44] paper : MikeHunt: b/c they're just sitting there growing on leverage anyway. i bought in crash to 160, then started growing them on leverage and want to keep doing that until 3k$ at least. good to have medium term and long term trades in times like these b/c your target might hit much faster than expected
[2017-02-23 01:46:46] aethlios : charlie lee has great development plans for ltc if SW passes, lighting net. confidential transac. etc.
[2017-02-23 01:47:01] cryptillian : well thats really high fee
[2017-02-23 01:47:46] cryptillian : i like the ltc is real world testnet idea
[2017-02-23 01:47:48] yungyang : cryptillian: what $2?
[2017-02-23 01:48:10] cryptillian : depends on the tx
[2017-02-23 01:48:31] cryptillian : for 10$ its high
[2017-02-23 01:48:40] aethlios : ltc for day to day transactions (pay a coffee) and btc for large capital moves. btc has no leadership and SW won't pass with 95%.
[2017-02-23 01:48:42] cryptillian : for 10 000 not
[2017-02-23 01:48:52] -_- : abbey: $1.13 is good fee
[2017-02-23 01:49:01] yungyang : cryptillian: good point
[2017-02-23 01:49:08] yungyang : i assumed he meant 1 btc
[2017-02-23 01:49:20] paper : MikeHunt: but you're w/ me on this that we probably won't see multi-thousands in the next couple of months, right?
[2017-02-23 01:49:35] aethlios : http://8btc.com/thread-46125-1-1.html
[2017-02-23 01:49:45] abbey : i transfered half bitcoin there
[2017-02-23 01:49:55] abbey : 0.5btc
[2017-02-23 01:50:01] cryptillian : yungyang: im gonna check what my ledger says
[2017-02-23 01:50:17] aethlios : The most important goal of Litecoin is to get SegWit activated. Once SegWit is activated, there are a lot more things we can start adding to Litecoin. I really want to work with the Lightning team to get LN up and running on Litecoin. I have talked to Joseph Poon and he is extremely excited about this being possible on Litecoin. The other thing I want to work on is Confidential Transactions. I think the one property that Bitcoin/Litecoin is missing from becoming the perfect form of money is fungibility. So I would want to explore making Litecoin more fungible.
[2017-02-23 01:50:20] MikeHunt : paper: i think ETF will be denied so lucky to keep 1k ;)
[2017-02-23 01:50:20] arbitrage101 : good morning,fellow trolls
[2017-02-23 01:50:24] arbitrage101 : how is everyone doing
[2017-02-23 01:50:40] MikeHunt : arbitrage101: trolol
[2017-02-23 01:50:41] arbitrage101 : j8 mood is good today. very talkative
[2017-02-23 01:50:52] arbitrage101 : must be making a lot
[2017-02-23 01:51:01] -_- : i dunno why anyone would switch back to LTC
[2017-02-23 01:51:04] j8 : :thumbsup:
[2017-02-23 01:51:05] arbitrage101 : sleger sounds like having period as usual
[2017-02-23 01:51:24] paper : MikeHunt: well, you're entitled to that. many think a 200$ drop from etf rejection, which could drop us to 1300$ or something ;)
[2017-02-23 01:51:44] arbitrage101 : how is rapid with his short and fundamental
[2017-02-23 01:51:53] -_- : few gamblers left in LTC ready to ride the next pump but after that it's all bagholders left as everyone gets out
[2017-02-23 01:52:12] cryptillian : yungyang: 0001482 for fast confirm
[2017-02-23 01:52:31] paper : MikeHunt: many think 200$ drop that is, but not all are thinking where it will drop from and so they just default to 900usd
[2017-02-23 01:52:50] cryptillian : 0.0001482 i mean
[2017-02-23 01:52:52] -_- : btc will pump hundreds of dollars on ETF rumor. then when it's denied it'll be under $1000 fast
[2017-02-23 01:52:52] abbey : arbitrage101: watching porn n wanking i assume
[2017-02-23 01:53:13] arbitrage101 : abbey: nah, drinking tea and chatting
[2017-02-23 01:53:19] arbitrage101 : will wank a bit later
[2017-02-23 01:53:28] abbey : ;)
[2017-02-23 01:53:36] cryptillian : never wank with hot tea
[2017-02-23 01:53:53] abbey : :D
[2017-02-23 01:54:35] paper : -_-: i'm afraid you're right and i'm trying to find a way to secure gains in the event of that, but won't close out all leveraged trades before announcement b/c price could rise hundreds in minutes
[2017-02-23 01:55:00] arbitrage101 : i will go all cash a few days before etf decision
[2017-02-23 01:55:12] arbitrage101 : totally not worth to gamble
[2017-02-23 01:55:21] cryptillian : weird we are almost at ath and except for the coming etf thing it feels meh
[2017-02-23 01:55:52] paper : arbitrage101: btc-e offers a usd-pegged token, and ofc polo has usdt, and then there's digix
[2017-02-23 01:56:08] MikeHunt : paper: i dont think ETF is the only reason for sub-1k prices
[2017-02-23 01:56:13] aethlios : arbitrage101: there is no decision day, there is deadline. if not rejected until 11 march (saturday) means will be accepted. so as we approach 11 march and no rejection price will go parabolic last 3 days.
[2017-02-23 01:56:29] arbitrage101 : aethlios: i see
[2017-02-23 01:56:37] arbitrage101 : maybe i should watch price closely then
[2017-02-23 01:56:38] cryptillian : paper: yeah tether who backs tether? i dont get the buisinessidea
[2017-02-23 01:56:43] arbitrage101 : and stay awake all day
[2017-02-23 01:56:47] -_- : Etf and China news around same time
[2017-02-23 01:56:48] arbitrage101 : and night
[2017-02-23 01:56:59] -_- : Makes for good price movement
[2017-02-23 01:57:10] arbitrage101 : is okc.com going to go under?
[2017-02-23 01:57:21] paper : we could go parabolic today or tomorrow even. once we break ath it's on
[2017-02-23 01:57:29] -_- : I don't think so okc.com
[2017-02-23 01:57:41] arbitrage101 : no one want to buy cheap coin?
[2017-02-23 01:57:45] aethlios : btc in okcoin 44 usd cheaper
[2017-02-23 01:57:51] cryptillian : dont kill the golden goose
[2017-02-23 01:58:02] -_- : Okc usd is weird
[2017-02-23 01:58:16] -_- : Manipulative i say
[2017-02-23 01:58:22] MikeHunt : apparently okc may be insolvent
[2017-02-23 01:58:27] aethlios : -_-: why??
[2017-02-23 01:58:38] arbitrage101 : should have high premium on coin if insolvent
[2017-02-23 01:58:41] -_- : Not sure
[2017-02-23 01:58:56] arbitrage101 : as traders try to withdraw btc
[2017-02-23 01:59:06] MikeHunt : aethlios: court case with Roger Ver, they are facing liquidation so some suggested this is an exit pump
[2017-02-23 01:59:18] -_- : There have been some withdraw issues on okc.com
[2017-02-23 01:59:24] -_- : That I've heard
[2017-02-23 01:59:29] arbitrage101 : no issue yesterday
[2017-02-23 01:59:36] arbitrage101 : sleger withdraw 20btc
[2017-02-23 01:59:40] -_- : But always get resolved. I've never had an issue
[2017-02-23 01:59:51] aethlios : okcoin.com has fees, they make huge profits.
[2017-02-23 02:00:03] MikeHunt : if it is an exit pump i think they may be moving funds to mainland China to avoid HK court ruling
[2017-02-23 02:00:28] aethlios : also are in HK, not in china, have international vlients and no cny pairs.
[2017-02-23 02:00:41] MikeHunt : the other problem china exchanges have is loss of margin trading that attracted gamblers, china citizens have now moved to japanese exchanges now apparently or at least the gamblers have
[2017-02-23 02:00:46] -_- : If whales brought price this high then why not break ath and sell higher on etf rumor
[2017-02-23 02:01:07] alejandromasari : arbitrage101: screenshot or it never happened. @sleger
[2017-02-23 02:01:18] MikeHunt : aethlios: OKC USD is the one facing liquidation, so they may be moving to OKC CN to avoid loss of $
[2017-02-23 02:01:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 3000 @ 1121.93
[2017-02-23 02:01:28] arbitrage101 : alejandromasari: lol man
[2017-02-23 02:01:38] arbitrage101 : he has no reason to lie
[2017-02-23 02:01:40] arbitrage101 : beside
[2017-02-23 02:01:45] cryptillian : old news @MikeHunt http://www.coindesk.com/former-exec-hits-back-at-okcoin-amid-contract-dispute/ from 15
[2017-02-23 02:01:49] arbitrage101 : it is not important
[2017-02-23 02:02:05] MikeHunt : cryptillian: how is it old news if the court case is still rolling?
[2017-02-23 02:02:10] cryptillian : http://www.coindesk.com/former-exec-hits-back-at-okcoin-amid-contract-dispute/
[2017-02-23 02:02:11] aethlios : MikeHunt: how one person can liquidate a multimillion exchang??
[2017-02-23 02:02:35] cryptillian : pboc is new
[2017-02-23 02:03:06] MikeHunt : aethlios: they ignored court order and if they do it again they get liquidated
[2017-02-23 02:03:06] cryptillian : link ads weird sorry.
[2017-02-23 02:03:13] Jason : whos talking about shorting now eh?
[2017-02-23 02:03:51] MikeHunt : Jason: still got the $3m wall to climb
[2017-02-23 02:03:51] Jason : lets see how many times im right in this chat
[2017-02-23 02:03:55] narnarfromnarnia : .1115 nice
[2017-02-23 02:04:01] -_- : Another thing is China exchanges could have been keeping price down. With China never being the same the price will pump
[2017-02-23 02:04:06] Jason : before you fomo into my words
[2017-02-23 02:04:29] cryptillian : not me i wish i was any good at shorting i always mis the good enry points
[2017-02-23 02:04:59] cryptillian : -_-: yeah i have somewhat the same idea
[2017-02-23 02:06:32] paper : best not to even get in the habit of shorting bull mkts, plenty of other assets are in bear mode
[2017-02-23 02:06:42] aethlios : -_-: china can't buy now, they have a ban in withdrawals, so no reason to send fiat buy and can't withdraw.
[2017-02-23 02:06:42] paper : anyway, good luck guys. it's on
[2017-02-23 02:07:06] aethlios : okcoin.com index is 50% china, so they trade below west now.
[2017-02-23 02:07:16] -_- : Okc spot went from over 1000 btc near current price both ways to no btc near current price
[2017-02-23 02:08:03] aethlios : -_-: okcoin.com spot is in usd and out of china and can withdraw, but okcoin futures index is 50% china cny pairs.
[2017-02-23 02:08:24] -_- : I'm just waiting for the thousands of btc bought as price breaks ath
[2017-02-23 02:08:32] cryptillian : anybody know of a updated version of https://hypron.net/bitcoinwisdom/ ? with relevant sites
[2017-02-23 02:09:05] rapidgains : https://hypron.net/charts/
[2017-02-23 02:09:08] Cryptonary : /wall
[2017-02-23 02:09:08] trollbot : ``` BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1134.00 =>[993 Ƀ](-0.6%)<= 1164.42 Bids: 1102.09 =>[575 Ƀ](10.36%)<= 1132.60```
[2017-02-23 02:09:08] trollbot : ``` BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1133.7 =>[3270 Ƀ](33.91%)<= 1163.7 Bids: 1103.3 =>[1043 Ƀ](-25.66%)<= 1133.4```
[2017-02-23 02:09:24] rapidgains : https://hypron.net/2017/
[2017-02-23 02:10:13] cryptillian : ah cool thanks
[2017-02-23 02:13:25] MikeHunt : $3.2M woah
[2017-02-23 02:13:35] BitBIT : /sentiment
[2017-02-23 02:13:37] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 22.20 / 77.80 Daily : 48.69 / 51.31 Weekly : 44.28 / 55.72 Monthly : 47.41 / 52.59```
[2017-02-23 02:13:56] MikeHunt : looks like some big bears want goldie bullox ded
[2017-02-23 02:13:58] BitBIT : that not good
[2017-02-23 02:14:52] Nutella : ppl so stupid they think ETF comes on march 11
[2017-02-23 02:15:19] Nutella : I read now 'I will place short in the morning on march 11'
[2017-02-23 02:15:37] Nutella : what a stupid
[2017-02-23 02:16:01] MikeHunt : Nutella: this is where the bull train goes on mar11th... http://i.imgur.com/igrOav9.jpg
[2017-02-23 02:16:14] anonymous123421 : MikeHunt: oh shit
[2017-02-23 02:16:21] anonymous123421 : that was dark
[2017-02-23 02:16:35] MikeHunt : anonymous123421: yeh i picked the b/w image cuz its more scary
[2017-02-23 02:16:54] thxforyourbtc! : MikeHunt: nice lol
[2017-02-23 02:17:06] cryptillian : Nutella: this buildup of price feels good. who cares that its kinky and immoral
[2017-02-23 02:17:19] MikeHunt : cryptillian: looks wedgy
[2017-02-23 02:17:30] MikeHunt : or at least appears to be forming that way
[2017-02-23 02:17:35] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Nutella: you're right could get rejected any day before then
[2017-02-23 02:18:14] MikeHunt : if the bear wall can hold i suspect a big bull bbq by 5pm tomoz
[2017-02-23 02:18:26] MikeHunt : 6pm*
[2017-02-23 02:19:21] cryptillian : how many beers is that in liberty time?
[2017-02-23 02:19:40] MikeHunt : cryptillian: liberty time?
[2017-02-23 02:19:55] Jason : some stabs down incoming
[2017-02-23 02:20:38] Jason : funding rate 1 hour
[2017-02-23 02:20:57] ThatCEOGuy : What does funding do?
[2017-02-23 02:21:01] cryptillian : MikeHunt: yeah idk sounded better in my head
[2017-02-23 02:21:22] Jason : longs pay shorts 0.1
[2017-02-23 02:21:34] DorianWhack-A-Moto : ThatCEOGuy: it goes to the opposite positions. if its positive it goes to shorts, if its negative longs
[2017-02-23 02:21:54] DorianWhack-A-Moto : right now positive so shorts get paid
[2017-02-23 02:23:17] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: u might wanna place stops/limit orders near ur entry price so u definately get out
[2017-02-23 02:23:26] ThatCEOGuy : DorianWhack-A-Moto: Does it sffect the price at all?
[2017-02-23 02:23:38] ThatCEOGuy : MikeHunt: You think we're going that low?
[2017-02-23 02:24:00] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: maybe, but do u potentially want to miss out on it if we do?
[2017-02-23 02:24:16] MikeHunt : if the stop isnt met, nothing happens
[2017-02-23 02:24:19] cryptillian : ThatCEOGuy: you sound over leveraged
[2017-02-23 02:24:21] DorianWhack-A-Moto : ThatCEOGuy: kind of affects price, higher funding means more people will open positions to get that funding
[2017-02-23 02:24:27] MikeHunt : cryptillian: hes in a bad position atm, very bad
[2017-02-23 02:24:51] cryptillian : oh sorry i didnt know
[2017-02-23 02:24:52] BitMEX_John : ThatCEOGuy: the purpose of the funding fee is to anchor the swap contract price to the index price
[2017-02-23 02:25:38] Sultan Pepper : BitMEX_John: never knew that, thank you
[2017-02-23 02:25:50] ThatCEOGuy : I think I get it, thanks guys.
[2017-02-23 02:26:03] J0ebiden : @alejandromasari
[2017-02-23 02:26:31] ThatCEOGuy : MikeHunt: Yeah I got some stops near entry. Might put more above, just in case, thanks.
[2017-02-23 02:26:41] ThatCEOGuy : Hopefullywe get that low lol
[2017-02-23 02:27:34] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: u could put limit orders above with post-only selected, then ull get maker fee
[2017-02-23 02:28:14] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: probably upto about $5 above ur entry price would be break even
[2017-02-23 02:30:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 87 @ 0.011432
[2017-02-23 02:32:02] cryptillian : BitMEX_John: can you add visual lines on the chart for stops and so? like the entry line. giving my unwanted opinion in a trollbox..... priceless. (but not as rekt as ZEC) hur hur
[2017-02-23 02:32:17] ThatCEOGuy : MikeHunt: Got it, thank you.
[2017-02-23 02:33:25] BitMEX_John : cryptillian: this has been noted as a feature request :)
[2017-02-23 02:34:09] yungyang : cryptillian: short zec! Candy from baby
[2017-02-23 02:34:23] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: np, also i'd advise keeping at least 90% of ur cash in a low lvg. trade
[2017-02-23 02:35:06] MikeHunt : preferably 1x at most
[2017-02-23 02:35:34] MikeHunt : until ur confident and making positive PnL
[2017-02-23 02:35:46] cryptillian : yungyang: overhyped, no useful purpouse and not even a official windows wallet... yep
[2017-02-23 02:35:56] ThatCEOGuy : MikeHunt: So, 1x lvg. for 90% then other 10% is safe to use higher lvg?
[2017-02-23 02:36:20] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: HODL the 90% and 1x short if its free falling
[2017-02-23 02:36:24] MikeHunt : otherwise just HODL
[2017-02-23 02:36:33] MikeHunt : the other 10% u can play with
[2017-02-23 02:36:49] MikeHunt : i highly recommend watching risk management videos on utube
[2017-02-23 02:36:55] Sultan Pepper : Actual advice^
[2017-02-23 02:37:05] MikeHunt : Sultan Pepper: yeh, which is rare from me apparently ;)
[2017-02-23 02:37:12] cryptillian : whooooo 0.0000 in the green baby
[2017-02-23 02:37:44] Sultan Pepper : MikeHunt: honestly, rare from most
[2017-02-23 02:38:16] MikeHunt : Sultan Pepper: +1
[2017-02-23 02:38:30] aethlios : Unconfirmed Transactions Optimal Fee / Kb Low Priority Fee / Kb 110,059 (74,585.60 Kb) 0.00164240 BTC 0.00092709 BTC
[2017-02-23 02:38:43] aethlios : above ATH fees will go to sky.
[2017-02-23 02:40:10] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, fees are already causing issues.
[2017-02-23 02:40:14] BitMEX_Sam : We're seeing a lot of stalled txs
[2017-02-23 02:41:00] aethlios : 110,000 unconf. trans must be record.
[2017-02-23 02:41:33] ThatCEOGuy : MikeHunt: That makes way more sense than what I was doing. Assuming I luck out of this this I'm definitely gonna play it safe. I already got a risk management vid bookmarked someone posted earlier.
[2017-02-23 02:41:56] Nutella : aethlios: whats the current fee to move money in next block?
[2017-02-23 02:41:58] ThatCEOGuy : I really do appreciate all the help.
[2017-02-23 02:42:13] cryptillian : Sultan Pepper: i try to help were i can. teaching what i know... so not much good advice...
[2017-02-23 02:42:55] Sultan Pepper : cryptillian: i like to keep a nice grey area of moral standing
[2017-02-23 02:43:03] aethlios : Nutella: 0.00164240 BTC per k, but i don't know how many kb is 1 btc.
[2017-02-23 02:43:11] thxforyourbtc! : Nutella: about a dollar. 50 cents does in 1-6hour
[2017-02-23 02:43:32] thxforyourbtc! : using avg transaction size
[2017-02-23 02:44:12] thxforyourbtc! : any lower than 50 cent can take a long time these days
[2017-02-23 02:44:30] paper : btc-e ath
[2017-02-23 02:44:51] thxforyourbtc! : i usually do a buck whenever i want it fast
[2017-02-23 02:45:44] cryptillian : Sultan Pepper: as the great EEK! the cat said "it never hurts to help"
[2017-02-23 02:45:45] aethlios : thxforyourbtc!: how many kb is 1 btc??
[2017-02-23 02:45:47] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: im in a similar position with a short from january, hoping for a let out, once im out i endever to never let it happen again
[2017-02-23 02:46:38] MikeHunt : /wall
[2017-02-23 02:46:38] trollbot : ``` BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1133.0 =>[3042 Ƀ](-6.97%)<= 1163.0 Bids: 1102.9 =>[1066 Ƀ](2.21%)<= 1132.9```
[2017-02-23 02:46:38] trollbot : ``` BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1131.04 =>[1048 Ƀ](5.54%)<= 1161.15 Bids: 1100.12 =>[741 Ƀ](28.87%)<= 1130.15```
[2017-02-23 02:47:20] cryptillian : also super high and have no idea what i was talking about so
[2017-02-23 02:47:50] Nutella : a dollar?
[2017-02-23 02:47:52] Nutella : WTF
[2017-02-23 02:48:03] Nutella : we will all be poors soon
[2017-02-23 02:50:05] Rado : who created this price bots?
[2017-02-23 02:50:24] MikeHunt : Rado: Farzad
[2017-02-23 02:50:47] Rado : how did he integrate it with the chat?
[2017-02-23 02:50:59] arbitrage101 : dude
[2017-02-23 02:51:06] MikeHunt : Rado: API
[2017-02-23 02:51:06] arbitrage101 : you are bot coder and you dont know?
[2017-02-23 02:51:23] thxforyourbtc! : aethlios: it doesnt matter how much you send at all in corealtion to size of transaction in bytes
[2017-02-23 02:51:42] cryptillian : ^
[2017-02-23 02:51:48] Rado : arbitrage101: you need a hook
[2017-02-23 02:51:57] thxforyourbtc! : usually its 250 or 500ish bytes
[2017-02-23 02:52:01] Rado : you can't just change BitMEX code
[2017-02-23 02:52:06] Rado : does he work for BitMEX?
[2017-02-23 02:52:19] j8 : chat comes through websocket
[2017-02-23 02:52:23] thxforyourbtc! : do 90 x 500 and thats a good fee right now
[2017-02-23 02:52:38] Rado : I see
[2017-02-23 02:52:40] j8 : you just read messages and match \price etc at the start
[2017-02-23 02:52:40] thxforyourbtc! : but not super quick. i think approx 50cent
[2017-02-23 02:52:44] Rado : so there is a hook already
[2017-02-23 02:52:45] Nutella : Rado: fee now 1 dolla!
[2017-02-23 02:53:01] thxforyourbtc! : yeah probably sinze price went up
[2017-02-23 02:53:09] Rado : Nutella: sure
[2017-02-23 02:53:16] Rado : I will deposit it using the chat
[2017-02-23 02:53:23] Rado : /send $1 to Nutella
[2017-02-23 02:53:51] abbey : my last tx was 226 bytes
[2017-02-23 02:53:52] Rado : I am short XBTH17 now
[2017-02-23 02:53:56] Rado : only half a position
[2017-02-23 02:54:11] arbitrage101 : i am short a lot of contracts here
[2017-02-23 02:54:12] Rado : for the first time in a month or so
[2017-02-23 02:54:18] Nutella : no stupid bitcoin fee is only dollar
[2017-02-23 02:54:20] arbitrage101 : need to find a way to unwind my position
[2017-02-23 02:54:29] arbitrage101 : wihtout paying premium
[2017-02-23 02:54:34] arbitrage101 : or high spread
[2017-02-23 02:54:36] j8 : rado turning bear for once?
[2017-02-23 02:54:48] Rado : j8: just short term
[2017-02-23 02:54:58] cryptillian : anyone know a site that filters the txns in price as in x 10000 x1000 xetc etc?
[2017-02-23 02:54:59] Rado : I think we will blow off to the upside soon
[2017-02-23 02:55:28] j8 : yeah we could definitely dip first
[2017-02-23 02:55:29] Nutella : u wish stupid
[2017-02-23 02:55:40] Nutella : @Rado
[2017-02-23 02:56:45] Rado : j8: where did this fuckhead Nutella come from?
[2017-02-23 02:57:12] arbitrage101 : just normal traders behavior
[2017-02-23 02:57:14] j8 : cuntland
[2017-02-23 02:57:19] arbitrage101 : nothing suprise
[2017-02-23 02:57:27] Sultan Pepper : Rado: btcdjs girl
[2017-02-23 02:57:40] Rado : Sultan Pepper: for real?
[2017-02-23 02:57:50] Sultan Pepper : nah man
[2017-02-23 02:58:03] Sultan Pepper : but he says so
[2017-02-23 02:59:29] Nutella : BTCDJS is an idiot
[2017-02-23 02:59:51] arbitrage101 : he has been around for a while
[2017-02-23 03:00:01] arbitrage101 : still alive and trading
[2017-02-23 03:00:20] Rado : https://www.tradingview.com/x/qnLBizcq/
[2017-02-23 03:00:29] Rado : Nutella: you are someones beach?
[2017-02-23 03:00:31] Rado : nice
[2017-02-23 03:02:06] Sultan Pepper : arbitrage101: plenty of bigger idiots than him in here
[2017-02-23 03:04:08] arbitrage101 : another quiet day
[2017-02-23 03:04:17] arbitrage101 : going to watch documentary on youtube
[2017-02-23 03:05:47] Sultan Pepper : arbitrage101: which?
[2017-02-23 03:06:45] arbitrage101 : Sultan Pepper: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBduuL-DZ24
[2017-02-23 03:07:00] Sultan Pepper : Oh shit
[2017-02-23 03:07:02] Sultan Pepper : ok
[2017-02-23 03:12:10] Jason : i guess right again
[2017-02-23 03:13:44] Sultan Pepper : Fkin wizard m8
[2017-02-23 03:13:50] MikeHunt : Rado: bull bbq it's then
[2017-02-23 03:16:30] paper : or just boring consolidation
[2017-02-23 03:16:47] paper : any dips will be bought w/ aggression
[2017-02-23 03:17:22] MikeHunt : paper: it think thats the purpose of the wall
[2017-02-23 03:17:26] MikeHunt : slow the bulls down
[2017-02-23 03:17:41] MikeHunt : /wall
[2017-02-23 03:17:41] trollbot : ``` BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1128.97 =>[1028 Ƀ](-1.91%)<= 1159.00 Bids: 1098.10 =>[630 Ƀ](-14.98%)<= 1128.51```
[2017-02-23 03:17:41] trollbot : ``` BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1129.3 =>[2588 Ƀ](-14.92%)<= 1159.3 Bids: 1099.1 =>[1348 Ƀ](26.45%)<= 1129.2```
[2017-02-23 03:17:43] cryptillian : ^ small x10 long w 10< stop good night
[2017-02-23 03:19:44] Sam : /sentiment
[2017-02-23 03:19:47] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 75.00 / 25.00 Daily : 49.94 / 50.06 Weekly : 44.53 / 55.47 Monthly : 47.43 / 52.57```
[2017-02-23 03:23:00] Jason : x50 short now
[2017-02-23 03:23:10] Jason : look bitfinex
[2017-02-23 03:23:18] Jason : rekt
[2017-02-23 03:23:24] MikeHunt : Jason: depends if the wall can hold
[2017-02-23 03:23:28] MikeHunt : whale battle atm
[2017-02-23 03:28:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 38000 @ 1112.49
[2017-02-23 03:28:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 240 @ 1113.84
[2017-02-23 03:28:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2 @ 1112.60 :punch: :whale:
[2017-02-23 03:28:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 3200 @ 1134.85
[2017-02-23 03:28:53] Jason : said
[2017-02-23 03:28:56] Gr33d : called it
[2017-02-23 03:29:18] thxforyourbtc! : Gr33d: was a nice call
[2017-02-23 03:29:25] Jason : I called it
[2017-02-23 03:30:00] Sultan Pepper : "It goes up and down sometimes"
[2017-02-23 03:30:06] Sultan Pepper : called it brah
[2017-02-23 03:30:15] Gr33d : +1
[2017-02-23 03:31:21] thxforyourbtc! : NOW buy the dip!!!
[2017-02-23 03:31:58] MikeHunt : if u hold a short on perp u get funding in 28 mins
[2017-02-23 03:32:16] Coconuter : watch out for the green dildo
[2017-02-23 03:32:48] aeos : what determines the funding rate of the day?
[2017-02-23 03:33:07] arbitrage101 : aeos: traders here
[2017-02-23 03:33:27] arbitrage101 : willingness to pay premium or sell at discount
[2017-02-23 03:33:35] BitMEX_Sam : aeos: https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#Funding
[2017-02-23 03:34:05] aeos : BitMEX_Sam: thanks
[2017-02-23 03:34:47] y1uy : *Buy the fuckinvg dip*
[2017-02-23 03:34:57] hmmm : rip btc
[2017-02-23 03:35:19] MikeHunt : /wall
[2017-02-23 03:35:20] trollbot : ``` BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1125.07 =>[951 Ƀ](-7.49%)<= 1155.42 Bids: 1093.29 =>[558 Ƀ](-11.43%)<= 1123.50```
[2017-02-23 03:35:20] trollbot : ``` BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1123.0 =>[2104 Ƀ](-18.7%)<= 1153.0 Bids: 1092.7 =>[1212 Ƀ](-10.09%)<= 1122.9```
[2017-02-23 03:36:34] y1uy : thxforyourbtc!: how's it going? Made bank on the run up? :D
[2017-02-23 03:36:43] thxforyourbtc! : YES
[2017-02-23 03:37:12] y1uy : thats what I want to hear
[2017-02-23 03:37:34] y1uy : We will be rich boys
[2017-02-23 03:38:03] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Sam: if u accidently move leverage slider to right and cant move back that means ur screwed right?
[2017-02-23 03:38:29] Gr33d : lel
[2017-02-23 03:38:42] MikeHunt : thought they added a confirmation box
[2017-02-23 03:40:00] rapidtrades : lol alex jones is having a 13h live stream
[2017-02-23 03:40:10] rapidtrades : yes its as crazy as you expect
[2017-02-23 03:40:36] al : MikeHunt: click on margin on open position, you can add and remove margin assuming you have the collateral
[2017-02-23 03:40:37] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: good morning, bro
[2017-02-23 03:40:43] arbitrage101 : how things go
[2017-02-23 03:40:51] rapidtrades : making $$$
[2017-02-23 03:40:59] arbitrage101 : from your 880 short?
[2017-02-23 03:41:07] rapidtrades : yea
[2017-02-23 03:41:12] arbitrage101 : good
[2017-02-23 03:41:31] MikeHunt : al: thanks, the custom margin button is right next to 100x
[2017-02-23 03:41:38] MikeHunt : they really should add a confirmation
[2017-02-23 03:41:52] rapidtrades : i think i missed his reddit AMA tho
[2017-02-23 03:42:11] BitMEX_John : MikeHunt: how long ago did you accidentally move it right? You should be able to lower your leverage if you have spare available balance
[2017-02-23 03:42:25] MikeHunt : BitMEX_John: few minutes ago
[2017-02-23 03:42:35] MikeHunt : ill do that
[2017-02-23 03:42:41] elmorte : rapidtrades: he was on the Joe Rogan podcast recently too
[2017-02-23 03:42:50] MikeHunt : BitMEX_John: have u considered adding a padlock or some sort of confirmation?
[2017-02-23 03:43:40] BitMEX_John : MikeHunt: I'll have this noted down as a feature request
[2017-02-23 03:43:47] MikeHunt : BitMEX_John: thanks
[2017-02-23 03:47:17] rapidtrades : elmorte: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5vnaqz/alex_jones_here_to_maga_ask_me_anything_and_lets/de3fbb7/
[2017-02-23 03:48:11] elmorte : \*facepalm\*
[2017-02-23 03:48:48] BitMEX_John : MikeHunt: we recently rolled out a confirmation for the leverage slider when on mobile
[2017-02-23 03:49:22] MikeHunt : BitMEX_John: can you extend that to pc as well?
[2017-02-23 03:50:47] BitMEX_John : MikeHunt: we'll take it under consideration
[2017-02-23 03:51:01] MikeHunt : BitMEX_John: what i dont get is i have a liq price around 1300 but my roe atm is 90%+
[2017-02-23 03:52:49] BitMEX_John : MikeHunt: have you tried using the 'Liquidation Price' tab in the calculator to model different scenarios? It may help you understand
[2017-02-23 03:54:17] MikeHunt : BitMEX_John: seems the current liquidation price is wrong according to the calculator
[2017-02-23 03:54:52] arbitrage101 : MikeHunt: if you are long, the value of your collateral also go down
[2017-02-23 03:54:55] arbitrage101 : have you consider that?
[2017-02-23 03:56:22] MikeHunt : arbitrage101: im short from ~1030
[2017-02-23 03:56:32] MikeHunt : the one from january
[2017-02-23 03:57:00] arbitrage101 : the unrealized profit part cant be used as collateral
[2017-02-23 03:57:19] arbitrage101 : but realized loss is subtracted i think
[2017-02-23 03:57:30] arbitrage101 : as slegar and other have been complaning
[2017-02-23 03:57:35] MikeHunt : arbitrage101: ahh
[2017-02-23 03:58:18] Jason : short for funding rate
[2017-02-23 03:58:22] Jason : x50
[2017-02-23 03:58:26] Jason : its high
[2017-02-23 03:58:34] Jason : 1 min
[2017-02-23 03:59:23] Jason : 40 sec
[2017-02-23 04:00:19] thxforyourbtc! : nice short
[2017-02-23 04:00:38] thxforyourbtc! : big dicidend
[2017-02-23 04:00:43] thxforyourbtc! : dividend
[2017-02-23 04:01:23] abbey : bottom shorters
[2017-02-23 04:01:58] abbey : lol
[2017-02-23 04:02:06] mark121 : lmao
[2017-02-23 04:02:47] mark121 : u think this isthe bottom?
[2017-02-23 04:03:30] abbey : lets find out
[2017-02-23 04:03:44] mark121 : i sure hope u r kidding
[2017-02-23 04:04:12] rapidtrades : elmorte: he just finished a 20-30 mins rant lol
[2017-02-23 04:04:21] rapidtrades : it was epic
[2017-02-23 04:04:28] abbey : u just shorted? @mark121
[2017-02-23 04:04:42] elmorte : rapidtrades: man must be coked up...
[2017-02-23 04:05:00] rapidtrades : oh sweet! money
[2017-02-23 04:05:03] rapidtrades : tnx longs
[2017-02-23 04:05:04] mark121 : of course abbey, but not just, i shorted the top
[2017-02-23 04:05:05] rapidtrades : PAYDYA
[2017-02-23 04:05:10] rapidtrades : PAYDAY
[2017-02-23 04:05:13] mark121 : added tho
[2017-02-23 04:05:15] rapidtrades : PAYDAY @sleger
[2017-02-23 04:05:30] rapidtrades : i know ur always here for funding to count ur new monies
[2017-02-23 04:05:42] mark121 : the second last funding
[2017-02-23 04:05:46] mark121 : was sexy
[2017-02-23 04:05:55] mark121 : payday rather
[2017-02-23 04:06:08] mark121 : well both, since I wasnt a long :p
[2017-02-23 04:06:22] elmorte : I timed my short funding so poorly...ended up with 10% of what I planned on paper
[2017-02-23 04:06:57] mark121 : was it due to the spread?
[2017-02-23 04:07:00] elmorte : lesson learnt though
[2017-02-23 04:07:13] elmorte : mark121: that, and I closed the wrong part of the hedge first
[2017-02-23 04:07:31] arbitrage101 : cant outsmart the market
[2017-02-23 04:07:35] mark121 : elmorte: gotcha
[2017-02-23 04:07:35] elmorte : in a falling market, I closed my short first, instead of closing the long
[2017-02-23 04:07:40] mark121 : ouch
[2017-02-23 04:08:29] elmorte : arbitrage101: not trying to outsmart the market, just a few guys here :)
[2017-02-23 04:08:56] arbitrage101 : elmorte: cant out-speed the bot here either
[2017-02-23 04:08:58] mark121 : im not sure of the relevance of the market to his problem lol
[2017-02-23 04:09:05] elmorte : arbitrage101: true dat
[2017-02-23 04:10:02] mark121 : more of a timing issue :D
[2017-02-23 04:10:13] mark121 : i messed up a lil too
[2017-02-23 04:10:47] Sultan Pepper : You could have opened and closed a short, in profit, within a half hour to get funding
[2017-02-23 04:10:58] mark121 : bought some contracts (and covered 7k) as my body just reflexed to buy long instead of selling them
[2017-02-23 04:11:04] elmorte : Sultan Pepper: mmm, hindsight
[2017-02-23 04:11:17] Sultan Pepper : elmorte: always the best
[2017-02-23 04:11:32] elmorte : I held my short thru the previous 3 fundings thouugh
[2017-02-23 04:11:35] Sultan Pepper : My 100 contract short made BANK
[2017-02-23 04:11:52] elmorte : like a local bank...or like HSBC?
[2017-02-23 04:11:56] mark121 : ll
[2017-02-23 04:11:58] mark121 : lol
[2017-02-23 04:12:16] mark121 : why u say within a half hour to get funding Sultan Pepper
[2017-02-23 04:12:17] Sultan Pepper : Like a bank on the side of the road
[2017-02-23 04:12:48] mark121 : jus wonderin if there sumthin i dont know, havent actually looked into anything
[2017-02-23 04:13:26] mark121 : did u mean specifically cus of the price action today?
[2017-02-23 04:13:28] mark121 : or in general
[2017-02-23 04:13:48] Sultan Pepper : mark121: open at :40 closed at :10
[2017-02-23 04:14:08] mark121 : oh and u still get the funding?
[2017-02-23 04:14:34] mark121 : interesting, i was wondring about how they dealt with that
[2017-02-23 04:14:41] Sultan Pepper : If you have an open position on swap during funding, you will gain/lose it
[2017-02-23 04:15:10] mark121 : so u dont double dip
[2017-02-23 04:15:21] Sultan Pepper : there's usually a bit of a shake out around those hours though
[2017-02-23 04:15:48] mark121 : my middle name is shakeout
[2017-02-23 04:16:15] elmorte : mark121: yeah, funding is not pro-rated
[2017-02-23 04:16:19] Sultan Pepper : mark121: no, you wont lose the position. I mean no matter when you opened that short, if you had it still open at the funding hour, you would make that profit
[2017-02-23 04:16:31] abbey : Sultan Pepper: how much u made?
[2017-02-23 04:16:36] mark121 : yes i kno that
[2017-02-23 04:16:54] Sultan Pepper : abbey: 0.0001 or something :)
[2017-02-23 04:17:10] Sultan Pepper : mark121: oh sorry, i thought you didnt understand
[2017-02-23 04:17:11] abbey : cool!
[2017-02-23 04:17:32] elmorte : I think it's silly, causes necessary fluctuations...but then as Arthur said, "you fckers love volatility"
[2017-02-23 04:17:42] Sultan Pepper : abbey: only 'cause i'm carefully crafting a slow short now
[2017-02-23 04:18:00] elmorte : unnecessary rather
[2017-02-23 04:18:02] mark121 : shit gona get biblical
[2017-02-23 04:18:13] MikeHunt : can you use leverage slider to maximise gains and minimise losses if you time it right?
[2017-02-23 04:18:23] Sultan Pepper : elmorte: it helps tie the price to mark price apparently
[2017-02-23 04:18:26] mark121 : not really
[2017-02-23 04:18:28] Sultan Pepper : learned that today
[2017-02-23 04:18:31] mark121 : MikeHunt
[2017-02-23 04:18:42] elmorte : Sultan Pepper: it would help even more if it wasn't on an 8-16hr delay
[2017-02-23 04:18:46] mark121 : thats not how it works
[2017-02-23 04:19:04] elmorte : I'm not arguing against funding, just against the way it is applied here
[2017-02-23 04:19:07] Sultan Pepper : mark121: according to bitmex_sam it is
[2017-02-23 04:19:12] BitMEX_John : MikeHunt: it will change your ROE % but your actual PNL is unchanged
[2017-02-23 04:19:14] elmorte : MikeHunt: only if you're about get liqd
[2017-02-23 04:19:26] mark121 : gotcha
[2017-02-23 04:20:26] MikeHunt : BitMEX_John: is it possible for RoE to be great than 100% or 100% = liq?
[2017-02-23 04:20:27] MikeHunt : just wanna check
[2017-02-23 04:20:31] Sultan Pepper : MikeHunt: i mean this in the nicest way, seriously. Don't you know this stuff? I kinda thought you'd been here for a while
[2017-02-23 04:20:51] thxforyourbtc! : MikeHunt: of course it can be more
[2017-02-23 04:20:59] BitMEX_John : MikeHunt: ROE% can be greater than 100%
[2017-02-23 04:21:03] MikeHunt : aha
[2017-02-23 04:21:03] mark121 : it can be much more and much less (negative)
[2017-02-23 04:21:06] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: just ignore ROE, its a useless matric
[2017-02-23 04:21:16] thxforyourbtc! : ^^
[2017-02-23 04:21:24] MikeHunt : Sultan Pepper: never been this screwed before so wanted to know all options
[2017-02-23 04:21:28] rapidtrades : metric*
[2017-02-23 04:21:38] MikeHunt : thanks for help guys
[2017-02-23 04:21:43] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: mine is -2000% so yes it can go above 100 lol
[2017-02-23 04:22:01] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: that makes my -90% look a lot better now lol
[2017-02-23 04:22:20] thxforyourbtc! : the second i open trade its usually + or - 100% instantly
[2017-02-23 04:22:32] MikeHunt : thxforyourbtc!: instant win? lol
[2017-02-23 04:22:46] mark121 : Sultan Pepper: that wouldnt make sense lol (bitmex john agrees)
[2017-02-23 04:22:54] MikeHunt : i was just worried my liq wasnt really my liq price and something was going on
[2017-02-23 04:22:55] mark121 : sory slow response
[2017-02-23 04:23:13] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: the liq shown is correct
[2017-02-23 04:23:30] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: ahh, my heartbeat just halved
[2017-02-23 04:23:35] MikeHunt : heart attack averted, touch wood
[2017-02-23 04:24:21] mark121 : MikeHunt, give yourself atleast 3 dollars, better 4, if u riding liquidation price
[2017-02-23 04:24:26] mark121 : cushion
[2017-02-23 04:25:02] MikeHunt : mark121: my liq is near $1300
[2017-02-23 04:25:04] mark121 : it rarely jumps 4
[2017-02-23 04:25:55] mark121 : heh ya, im referin to if u messin around on 100x