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BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
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[2017-02-22 19:33:30] BTCDJS : j8: why does it expire in march? would holding a long all the way to march if price keeps rising be more rewarding? I heard something about 2%
[2017-02-22 19:34:55] j8 : BTCDJS: well the premium is a little over 2%.. that's basically what it costs you to long for 37 days. or what you are paid to short for 37 days
[2017-02-22 19:35:01] cryptokeeper : Cryptonary: pretty much for 100k contracts you will be paying .370btc
[2017-02-22 19:35:03] cryptokeeper : which is a LOT
[2017-02-22 19:35:12] cryptokeeper : 350-400 USD
[2017-02-22 19:35:26] rapidtrades : 375 usd
[2017-02-22 19:35:27] sleger : 375
[2017-02-22 19:35:39] sleger : precisely
[2017-02-22 19:35:42] cryptokeeper : yea
[2017-02-22 19:35:42] BTCDJS : j8: K got it
[2017-02-22 19:35:42] rapidgains : rekt
[2017-02-22 19:35:45] alejandromasari : sleger: you can shut your pvsy lips now and be quiet http://imgur.com/IELzCuT
[2017-02-22 19:35:46] sleger : rapidtrades: did you see alejandro new lie ?
[2017-02-22 19:35:52] cryptokeeper : super rekt on longs
[2017-02-22 19:36:07] cryptokeeper : that is big time shit..... for what? to keep your position open? no thanks
[2017-02-22 19:36:07] rapidtrades : sleger: yes, he lies all the time
[2017-02-22 19:36:09] sleger : alejandromasari: YUGE 5 btc position lol
[2017-02-22 19:36:15] Tetsuo : lol
[2017-02-22 19:36:37] sleger : alejandromasari: 1148.96 is your average entry not the price at which you got filled, unlike what you said
[2017-02-22 19:36:40] BTCDJS : Hes got a teeny weeny. He needs to boast and lie to make it appear bigger in his mind
[2017-02-22 19:36:49] rapidgains : thats a long
[2017-02-22 19:36:51] alejandromasari : sleger: I have bigger bids on low wicks
[2017-02-22 19:36:51] rapidgains : wut
[2017-02-22 19:36:59] j8 : BTCDJS: and you can only see that as a fixed rate if you hold until expiry, since the premium can swing between now and then
[2017-02-22 19:37:01] alejandromasari : size management is key
[2017-02-22 19:37:03] rapidgains : thought he shorted?
[2017-02-22 19:37:03] BTC-Noob : so the sec can drop a bombshell any moment, it doest necessarily have to be on 11-03, can be earlier as well
[2017-02-22 19:37:05] Tetsuo : alejandromasari: another 2000 contracts?
[2017-02-22 19:37:15] alejandromasari : 30,000
[2017-02-22 19:37:33] sleger : no you have about 6000 contracts
[2017-02-22 19:37:37] BTC-Noob : alejandromasari: how much leverage do u trade usually? more than 50x?
[2017-02-22 19:37:41] sleger : sorry to disappoint
[2017-02-22 19:37:43] BTCDJS : j8: K thanks
[2017-02-22 19:37:52] Tetsuo : sure he´s a pro, 50x is minuimun if you have 10/10 right
[2017-02-22 19:37:56] alejandromasari : BTC-Noob: max 5x
[2017-02-22 19:38:11] sleger : liq price 982.63 LIAR
[2017-02-22 19:38:25] BTCDJS : Ha Ha
[2017-02-22 19:38:33] sleger : this guy is awesome
[2017-02-22 19:38:45] Tetsuo : alejandromasari: PLZ STOP LYING
[2017-02-22 19:38:48] sleger : he hasnt said one true thing and provided everything to us to debunk his lies
[2017-02-22 19:39:02] BTCDJS : his penis is shrinking more and more after every comeback
[2017-02-22 19:40:05] BTCDJS : *poof* <= Now it just vanished
[2017-02-22 19:40:09] cryptokeeper : BTC-Noob: it wont be earlier
[2017-02-22 19:40:29] cryptokeeper : BTCDJS: doing too much coke? haha
[2017-02-22 19:40:45] BTC-Noob : cryptokeeper: really how can u be so sure?
[2017-02-22 19:40:58] cryptokeeper : RIP and moment of silence for dude that bought 100+ BTC on stamp at the daily local top.
[2017-02-22 19:41:18] cryptokeeper : its about to get turnt down for what
[2017-02-22 19:41:21] j8 : someone's gotta do it!
[2017-02-22 19:41:25] m3s : cryptokeeper: hes in it for the long haul
[2017-02-22 19:41:27] cryptokeeper : j8: very true
[2017-02-22 19:41:28] Farzad2 : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 19:41:30] trollbot : ```Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 59.57/40.43 Daily: 43.58/56.42 Weekly: 43.32/56.68 Monthly: 47.4/52.6```
[2017-02-22 19:41:33] BTC-Noob : cryptokeeper: it could be btc bought for the seed basket of one of the ETF'
[2017-02-22 19:41:41] jung1 : /wall
[2017-02-22 19:41:41] trollbot : BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1139.49 => [982 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1169.99 Bids: 1108.00 => [646 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1138.06
[2017-02-22 19:41:41] trollbot : BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1134.1 => [3406 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1164.3 Bids: 1103.4 => [1205 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1133.8
[2017-02-22 19:41:46] cryptokeeper : m3s: wrong way to do it. IMHO.
[2017-02-22 19:41:55] cryptokeeper : BTC-Noob: could be.... 99% chance it isnt
[2017-02-22 19:42:03] sumwen : 5x 6-fig contracts is chump change... why do you care about his statements
[2017-02-22 19:42:07] BTC-Noob : /wall
[2017-02-22 19:42:08] trollbot : BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1138.89 => [889 Ƀ] (-9.47%) <= 1169.00 Bids: 1108.00 => [557 Ƀ] (-13.78%) <= 1138.06
[2017-02-22 19:42:08] m3s : cryptokeeper: how would you ?
[2017-02-22 19:42:09] trollbot : BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1134.0 => [3421 Ƀ] (0.44%) <= 1164.0 Bids: 1103.4 => [1213 Ƀ] (0.66%) <= 1133.8
[2017-02-22 19:42:15] cryptokeeper : you dont just fat finger buy 100+ btc on market order on stamp
[2017-02-22 19:42:31] cryptokeeper : and say it is for ETF or long term
[2017-02-22 19:42:34] cryptokeeper : you scale in.
[2017-02-22 19:42:39] Tetsuo : cryptokeeper: buying hos won asks @ the top?
[2017-02-22 19:42:42] Farzad : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 19:42:45] trollbot : ```Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 60.88/39.12 Daily: 43.6/56.4 Weekly: 43.33/56.67 Monthly: 47.4/52.6```
[2017-02-22 19:42:47] Tetsuo : * his own
[2017-02-22 19:42:58] BTC-Noob : /wall
[2017-02-22 19:42:58] trollbot : BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1139.49 => [983 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1169.99 Bids: 1108.00 => [659 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1138.89
[2017-02-22 19:42:58] cryptokeeper : Tetsuo: could be probable.... fees though
[2017-02-22 19:42:58] trollbot : BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1134.0 => [3416 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1164.0 Bids: 1103.4 => [1215 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1133.9
[2017-02-22 19:43:02] cryptokeeper : wash trading?
[2017-02-22 19:43:06] Tetsuo : think so
[2017-02-22 19:43:11] BTC-Noob : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 19:43:13] trollbot : ```Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 61.77/38.23 Daily: 43.64/56.36 Weekly: 43.32/56.68 Monthly: 47.4/52.6```
[2017-02-22 19:43:22] cryptokeeper : wash trading... very probable but you incur losses
[2017-02-22 19:43:37] rapidgains : sumwen: this is why we need a requirement to talk in this chat
[2017-02-22 19:43:55] Farzad2 : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 19:43:55] BTC-Noob : why is bitstamp trading 20$ higher than us?
[2017-02-22 19:43:58] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 61.77/38.23 Daily: 43.64/56.36 Weekly: 43.32/56.68 Monthly: 47.4/52.6```
[2017-02-22 19:44:08] cryptokeeper : lol... BULLstamp..... they dont know what they doing
[2017-02-22 19:44:19] cryptokeeper : bullstamp doesnt lead. they have zero books/liquidity
[2017-02-22 19:44:21] sleger : trollbot: nobody asked you
[2017-02-22 19:44:23] cryptokeeper : its always been an issue
[2017-02-22 19:44:30] dremann9 : how do i stop lower stop limit sell orders from being canceled when my first one executes?
[2017-02-22 19:44:48] j8 : uncheck "Close on Trigger"
[2017-02-22 19:45:03] dremann9 : awesome, ty
[2017-02-22 19:46:12] Farzad2 : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 19:46:14] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 65.4/34.6 Daily: 43.88/56.13 Weekly: 43.36/56.64 Monthly: 47.41/52.59```
[2017-02-22 19:46:20] Yuppie : https://exchangewar.info
[2017-02-22 19:46:41] Yuppie : Finex and Stamp have significant spot volume
[2017-02-22 19:46:41] jung1 : wtf
[2017-02-22 19:46:55] Tetsuo : however bidsum@ Bitstamp within a 10% range has lowered about 30% in the last hours
[2017-02-22 19:46:56] jung1 : bitmex is biggest exchange on the market?
[2017-02-22 19:47:04] Cryptonary : cryptokeeper: Thanks mate
[2017-02-22 19:47:16] rapidgains : depends on what you define an exchange as
[2017-02-22 19:47:20] rapidgains : spot vs futures
[2017-02-22 19:47:32] cryptokeeper : Cryptonary: for what? sorry i am in like 10 chats at once lol
[2017-02-22 19:47:36] cryptokeeper : jung1: nope
[2017-02-22 19:47:38] Farzad2 : /joke
[2017-02-22 19:47:57] Farzad2 : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 19:48:03] Tetsuo : /ban Farzad2
[2017-02-22 19:48:22] cryptokeeper : are you allowed multiple sub-accounts?
[2017-02-22 19:48:28] cryptokeeper : or is that against ToS
[2017-02-22 19:48:37] sleger : its ok
[2017-02-22 19:48:41] j8 : yes, and yes
[2017-02-22 19:48:54] Farzad2 : /joke
[2017-02-22 19:48:58] sleger : /ban muslims oh it was already done
[2017-02-22 19:49:01] cryptokeeper : just need diff email
[2017-02-22 19:49:04] trollbot : ``` You'll never be able to go back in time and kill Hitler as a baby. You'd be way too short and weak.
[2017-02-22 19:49:13] j8 : it is against the ToS technically
[2017-02-22 19:49:14] CryptoMill : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 19:49:16] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 60.89/39.11 Daily: 43.71/56.29 Weekly: 43.35/56.65 Monthly: 47.41/52.59```
[2017-02-22 19:49:26] sleger : j8: although admins said in the chat it was ok
[2017-02-22 19:49:31] spice : Price $20 behind bitstamp, thoughts on this?
[2017-02-22 19:49:33] Farzad2 : /joke
[2017-02-22 19:49:37] j8 : yeah, and everyone does it
[2017-02-22 19:49:37] trollbot : ``` Why don't blind people skydive? It scares the fuck out of the dogs.```
[2017-02-22 19:49:52] BTCDJS : I decided to yolo a short on 1broker instead
[2017-02-22 19:50:10] sleger : BTCDJS: smart move
[2017-02-22 19:50:21] j8 : they are probably pricing high eh
[2017-02-22 19:50:23] rapidgains : spice: we follow an index
[2017-02-22 19:50:31] j8 : coinbase and bitstamp?
[2017-02-22 19:50:34] rapidgains : okc spot is at 1108
[2017-02-22 19:50:43] rapidgains : stamp is a 1140
[2017-02-22 19:50:42] jung1 : so eeryone here is shorting now?
[2017-02-22 19:50:46] rapidgains : swap is in the middle
[2017-02-22 19:50:53] BTCDJS : 1135 for a short 1137 for a long
[2017-02-22 19:50:58] BTCDJS : price is 1135
[2017-02-22 19:51:20] j8 : just don't pay too many overnight fees
[2017-02-22 19:51:22] BTCDJS : shit thats wrong
[2017-02-22 19:51:31] Farzad2 : /wall
[2017-02-22 19:51:31] trollbot : ``` BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1134.1 => [3420 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1164.3 Bids: 1103.4 => [1214 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1133.9```
[2017-02-22 19:51:31] trollbot : ``` BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1139.74 => [952 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1169.99 Bids: 1109.00 => [675 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1139.47```
[2017-02-22 19:51:38] Dynamix : To long or short funding in 8 mins
[2017-02-22 19:51:46] tach : A fake index to fleece longs.
[2017-02-22 19:51:54] BTCDJS : price is 1137 shorts 1136 longs 1139
[2017-02-22 19:51:55] Dynamix : What is the funding thing ?
[2017-02-22 19:52:21] Yuppie : Somehow I'm missing a real liftoff
[2017-02-22 19:52:22] sleger : Dynamix: dont worry about it
[2017-02-22 19:52:27] rapidgains : too bad bitmex doesnt have a required test to take before trading
[2017-02-22 19:52:28] rapidgains : lmao
[2017-02-22 19:52:32] Dynamix : Lol what do you mean ?
[2017-02-22 19:52:35] sleger : its only 4$
[2017-02-22 19:52:37] Dynamix : haha I'm gonna short it lol
[2017-02-22 19:52:38] -_- : i'm short. get paid for funding and wait for the dump for max gains
[2017-02-22 19:52:40] rapidgains : its all in the reference page
[2017-02-22 19:52:42] Dynamix : $4 for what ?
[2017-02-22 19:52:44] Dynamix : each btc ?
[2017-02-22 19:52:55] sleger : see, nothing
[2017-02-22 19:53:08] sleger : small
[2017-02-22 19:53:19] tach : 12 daily. Robbery.
[2017-02-22 19:53:20] Dynamix : ;)
[2017-02-22 19:53:22] BTCDJS : shit so it was a dumb move huh?
[2017-02-22 19:53:33] BTCDJS : YOLO
[2017-02-22 19:53:57] Farzad2 : /price
[2017-02-22 19:53:58] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp: 1139.47 (13.95%)```
[2017-02-22 19:53:58] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex: 1133.9 (13.39%)```
[2017-02-22 19:53:58] trollbot : ``` Kraken: 1133.99 (13.4%)```
[2017-02-22 19:53:58] trollbot : ``` GDAX: 1134.98 (13.5%)```
[2017-02-22 19:53:58] trollbot : ``` itBit: 1135.68 (13.57%)```
[2017-02-22 19:53:59] trollbot : ``` OKCoin: 1108.71 (10.87%)```
[2017-02-22 19:54:12] ross : so in 5mins im gonna get hit for $40 of my 10btc
[2017-02-22 19:54:13] ross : ?
[2017-02-22 19:54:28] sleger : Farzad2: takes too much space
[2017-02-22 19:54:38] sleger : ross: sell before
[2017-02-22 19:54:38] m3s : ross: yes but wer at 5 $ under spot
[2017-02-22 19:54:45] BitMEX_Sam : Multiple accounts is fine, self-referring is not
[2017-02-22 19:54:55] sleger : ^very clear
[2017-02-22 19:55:16] Farzad2 : BitMEX_Sam: why do u change OKC too woodchipper ? :D
[2017-02-22 19:55:24] Tetsuo : shorts on FInex went down almost 50% in the last 6 days
[2017-02-22 19:55:27] Dynamix : dump it
[2017-02-22 19:55:29] Dynamix : to shitland
[2017-02-22 19:55:37] -_- : okc OKFC
[2017-02-22 19:55:39] -_- : OKC
[2017-02-22 19:55:47] spice : Dynamix: short?
[2017-02-22 19:55:49] bingbongfly : lots of people want funding
[2017-02-22 19:55:51] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, just use `OKC Intl`
[2017-02-22 19:55:55] Dynamix : Well, I'm in ;)
[2017-02-22 19:56:03] BitMEX_Sam : The price feed would take less space if you formatted it as a single msg
[2017-02-22 19:56:04] -_- : everyone shorting swap. join in!
[2017-02-22 19:56:18] BitMEX_Sam : also I've adjusted the styles somewhat so they're smaller, refresh to see them
[2017-02-22 19:56:41] Dynamix : Time to see drop to 1090 ;)
[2017-02-22 19:56:54] cryptokeeper : I will laugh if funding hits and it actually dumps
[2017-02-22 19:57:03] paper : damn, why is mex xbt/usd @ such a discount compared to stamp and finex today?
[2017-02-22 19:57:06] MrRGnome : BitMEX_Sam: Do you take any proactive measures against self referring like banning accounts or is it just something you are trying to discourage?
[2017-02-22 19:57:08] cryptokeeper : sorry in advance if that does happen and some of you are long
[2017-02-22 19:57:10] Farzad2 : BitMEX_Sam: I am sending prices seperately because sometimes one of them takes longer to acquire or times out
[2017-02-22 19:57:27] cryptobull : here comes funding dump
[2017-02-22 19:57:31] spice : What is the difference between cross and 1x?
[2017-02-22 19:57:33] BitMEX_Sam : MrRGnome: We don't discuss that for obvious reasons and reserve the right to disable any self-referring accts
[2017-02-22 19:57:50] BitMEX_Sam : Farzad2: Then just wait until then before posting
[2017-02-22 19:58:08] paper : this is shaping up to be uberbull day according to a lot of folks who would prefer another big dip. tonight could be the night!
[2017-02-22 19:58:10] jung1 : spice: cross is with all your position on exchange that you own. 1x is only with money that you boughts/sell contracts
[2017-02-22 19:58:12] sleger : or post in chinese trollbox
[2017-02-22 19:58:19] MrRGnome : BitMEX_Sam: Sure, just trying to get an idea of how seriously you take the issue.
[2017-02-22 19:58:26] Farzad2 : BitMEX_Sam: Users want instant prices, I guess this way it is better
[2017-02-22 19:58:40] BitMEX_Sam : Farzad2: It spams the box - please coalesce it into a single message.
[2017-02-22 19:59:10] wurstgelee : i agree with the spam
[2017-02-22 19:59:14] sleger : guys final warning, if you sell too much the swap I will have to buy it
[2017-02-22 19:59:15] wurstgelee : its too much
[2017-02-22 19:59:20] MrRGnome : I don't personally have a second account, but the way people talk in here I was maybe incorrectly believing self referral was the norm.
[2017-02-22 19:59:21] Farzad2 : BitMEX_Sam: OK, but if users complained why it doesnt work properly, it is on you :p
[2017-02-22 19:59:23] sleger : especially btcdjs abuses it
[2017-02-22 19:59:24] NukeLaloosh : BitMEX_Sam: when the webpage resets, is that equal the same time on the hour for your system?
[2017-02-22 19:59:35] m3s : here we go
[2017-02-22 19:59:39] BitMEX_Sam : NukeLaloosh: I'm not sure what you're asking
[2017-02-22 19:59:46] bingbongfly : no wait
[2017-02-22 19:59:49] Dynamix : Common boys you dont wanna long the top ;)
[2017-02-22 19:59:50] bingbongfly : funding
[2017-02-22 19:59:55] Shoba : need more index exchanges, way too abusable right now
[2017-02-22 19:59:56] wurstgelee : 1115...lol.. oO
[2017-02-22 20:00:04] paper : i was gonna unload maybe 3% in 1040 area but no use now, considering stamp will be far above that area by the time our prices even get in that region
[2017-02-22 20:00:07] Tetsuo : `KA-CHING`
[2017-02-22 20:00:13] rapidtrades : yeeeees
[2017-02-22 20:00:16] ross : lol wtf
[2017-02-22 20:00:16] bingbongfly : hahhaha now ppl get it
[2017-02-22 20:00:18] rapidgains : rip fomo shorts
[2017-02-22 20:00:20] sleger : XBTUSD 30000 7499 0 1118.11 got it !
[2017-02-22 20:00:20] Dynamix : ?
[2017-02-22 20:00:22] rapidgains : lmao
[2017-02-22 20:00:22] cryptokeeper : lol
[2017-02-22 20:00:31] Farzad2 : It was because of funding, lol
[2017-02-22 20:00:34] cryptokeeper : everybody went for funding and then
[2017-02-22 20:00:36] cryptokeeper : took a loss
[2017-02-22 20:00:38] ross : im ok with this
[2017-02-22 20:00:38] Dynamix : Dumping time
[2017-02-22 20:00:41] cryptokeeper : ripped up the book
[2017-02-22 20:00:45] cryptokeeper : IDIOTS
[2017-02-22 20:00:48] Shoba : well, the price moved roughly the right amount
[2017-02-22 20:01:02] cryptokeeper : I got a massive pay day
[2017-02-22 20:01:05] cryptokeeper : thanks
[2017-02-22 20:01:13] ross : well now im sitting on a 0.7 fee
[2017-02-22 20:01:19] ross : delightful
[2017-02-22 20:01:21] rapidtrades : PAYDAY
[2017-02-22 20:01:27] sleger : 1.5btc funding not bad
[2017-02-22 20:01:32] m3s : ross: close your long
[2017-02-22 20:01:34] sleger : pays for dinner
[2017-02-22 20:01:41] cryptobull : that was fun... let's do it again in 8hrs :D
[2017-02-22 20:01:52] NeoXx : what's the rule, when do shorts pay the longs and vice versa?
[2017-02-22 20:01:53] Dynamix : wtf lol
[2017-02-22 20:01:56] Dynamix : common drop must be
[2017-02-22 20:01:57] Dynamix : on bfx
[2017-02-22 20:01:58] Dynamix : /wall
[2017-02-22 20:01:59] trollbot : ``` BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1139.17 => [955 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1169.21 Bids: 1108.00 => [589 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1138.87```
[2017-02-22 20:01:59] trollbot : ``` BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1134.0 => [3427 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1164.0 Bids: 1103.4 => [1239 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1133.8```
[2017-02-22 20:02:09] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-02-22 20:02:10] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp: 1138.87 (-0.05%)```
[2017-02-22 20:02:10] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex: 1133.9 (0%)```
[2017-02-22 20:02:10] trollbot : ``` Kraken: 1135 (0.09%)```
[2017-02-22 20:02:10] trollbot : ``` GDAX: 1135.99 (0.09%)```
[2017-02-22 20:02:10] trollbot : ``` itBit: 1135.13 (-0.05%)```
[2017-02-22 20:02:10] trollbot : ``` OKCoin: 1106.17 (-0.23%)```
[2017-02-22 20:02:35] cryptokeeper : cryptobull: :)
[2017-02-22 20:02:35] BTCDJS : ETH and xmr are the same price
[2017-02-22 20:02:53] rapidgains : fomo shorts buying back at higher prices
[2017-02-22 20:02:57] rapidgains : you cant beat the market makers lmao
[2017-02-22 20:03:22] rapidtrades : china $40 below and not closing the gap
[2017-02-22 20:03:22] cryptokeeper : stamp tried to go for it on the hourly
[2017-02-22 20:03:25] cryptokeeper : its getting mashed down
[2017-02-22 20:04:17] cryptokeeper : lunch time. cheers guys!
[2017-02-22 20:04:17] paper : since i'm new to this exchange, can someone link me to a page that explains the frenzy that just happened? as in, i'm assuming for a small window of time, fees were reduced for longers and or shorters (or something along those lines)?
[2017-02-22 20:04:29] rapidgains : https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#funding
[2017-02-22 20:04:43] ross : ^^ noone likes to read more than 5 words
[2017-02-22 20:04:57] rapidgains : have fun getting rekt then
[2017-02-22 20:04:59] rapidtrades : ^ this guy will go far
[2017-02-22 20:05:06] rapidtrades : FRIENDLY FIRE
[2017-02-22 20:05:11] paper : thanks. would that really be the primary reason why the price shot up though? and not the fact that we were trailing stamp/finex by like 20$, making it an obvious buy regardless?
[2017-02-22 20:05:11] rapidtrades : i meant ross
[2017-02-22 20:05:15] rapidgains : lol
[2017-02-22 20:05:47] -_- : never pays to short for funding only to close at a big loss
[2017-02-22 20:06:01] Dynamix : Fk shorting on funding
[2017-02-22 20:06:06] Dynamix : allways long hehe but its going down
[2017-02-22 20:06:07] Dynamix : now ;)
[2017-02-22 20:06:13] paper : i assume that was the reason, for that short window of time, unless most in trollbox were unaware of the negative premium until i brought it up (which was also immediately before the price rise here)
[2017-02-22 20:06:17] Shoba : higher the price gets, dumber traders get
[2017-02-22 20:06:29] cryptokeeper : Shoba: 100%
[2017-02-22 20:06:34] Dynamix : We have to see 1090's again ;)
[2017-02-22 20:06:37] Dynamix : no ?
[2017-02-22 20:06:46] sleger : "Users: 1097" <= best indicator
[2017-02-22 20:06:47] cryptobull : no
[2017-02-22 20:06:53] ross : im really confused
[2017-02-22 20:07:03] cryptobull : sleger: u have to add the bots
[2017-02-22 20:07:12] rapidgains : market makers raised prices to make up for funding, that is all
[2017-02-22 20:07:12] cryptokeeper : bots are around the same
[2017-02-22 20:07:18] j8 : just wait until the user count reaches parity with gold!
[2017-02-22 20:07:21] sleger : bots arent as dumb
[2017-02-22 20:07:33] paper : the odds of going sub 1100 are decreasing more and more (and that's not just my opionion)
[2017-02-22 20:07:49] Dynamix : paper: Myeah allright...
[2017-02-22 20:07:56] Dynamix : I wanna long the bottom too
[2017-02-22 20:07:59] Dynamix : and short th top
[2017-02-22 20:08:01] Dynamix : here ;)
[2017-02-22 20:08:02] MikeHunt : i believe thats the goal of bitcoin, get everyone out of gold so only the establishment has it, then sink the global economy
[2017-02-22 20:08:11] rapidgains : wut
[2017-02-22 20:08:15] paper : i wouldn't mind stopping out and catching a liquidity spike, but hopium doesn't make for a good plan
[2017-02-22 20:08:25] sleger : MikeDumb: I disagree
[2017-02-22 20:08:30] rapidgains : the shit i hear in the bitmex trollbox
[2017-02-22 20:08:30] Dynamix : MikeHunt: yhh
[2017-02-22 20:08:38] ross : Ok ive a question, my realised PNL is now -0.7 am i at a loss or a gain?
[2017-02-22 20:08:46] Yuppie : Funny, until 2 weks ago I was only looking at China price for Charts
[2017-02-22 20:08:47] Dynamix : /wall
[2017-02-22 20:08:48] ross : this funding thing has confused me
[2017-02-22 20:08:48] trollbot : ``` BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1134.5 => [3423 Ƀ] (-0.12%) <= 1164.6 Bids: 1104.3 => [1328 Ƀ] (7.18%) <= 1134.3```
[2017-02-22 20:08:48] trollbot : ``` BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1139.16 => [1006 Ƀ] (5.34%) <= 1169.21 Bids: 1108.00 => [596 Ƀ] (1.19%) <= 1138.88```
[2017-02-22 20:09:01] Yuppie : right now it doesnt seem to matter anymore
[2017-02-22 20:09:11] rangle : ross: realized loss + unrealized loss = current PNL
[2017-02-22 20:09:13] paper : a 30$ price drop is irrelevant when we could easily go up 400$ or so before an announcement even happens
[2017-02-22 20:09:26] MikeHunt : i think okc might ruin this rally
[2017-02-22 20:09:26] sleger : easily
[2017-02-22 20:10:03] paper : sure, b/c a lot of it would be parabolic or quasi-parabolic
[2017-02-22 20:11:21] paper : hopefully not too fast tho ofc, but the trip to 1300 shouldn't take long b/c that's just the initial rush of breaking ath
[2017-02-22 20:11:33] paper : and it's basically open air
[2017-02-22 20:15:00] paper : stamp broke left handle
[2017-02-22 20:15:19] Farzad2 : /price
[2017-02-22 20:15:30] Farzad2 : /joke
[2017-02-22 20:15:45] sleger : /broken
[2017-02-22 20:15:55] Farzad2 : /price
[2017-02-22 20:16:36] Tetsuo : /joke
[2017-02-22 20:16:46] Farzad2 : /price
[2017-02-22 20:16:48] Tetsuo : RIP trollbot
[2017-02-22 20:16:49] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp: 1141.90 (14.19%) Bitfinex: 1134.0 (13.4%) OKCoin: 1106.28 (10.63%) itBit: 1136.7 (13.67%) Kraken: 1135 (13.5%) GDAX: 1138.33 (13.83%) ```
[2017-02-22 20:16:58] Tetsuo : RIP farzad2
[2017-02-22 20:17:02] Farzad2 : /ban sleger
[2017-02-22 20:17:11] Leon : should we start the countdown for the breakout......10..
[2017-02-22 20:17:20] sleger : Farzad2: why ?
[2017-02-22 20:17:22] jung1 : FREE SLEGER
[2017-02-22 20:17:29] sleger : its unfair !
[2017-02-22 20:17:33] Tetsuo : /ban sleger
[2017-02-22 20:17:44] sleger : /jail Tetsuo
[2017-02-22 20:17:45] Farzad2 : sleger: because u complained to sam and broke best feature of bot
[2017-02-22 20:17:47] Tetsuo : /joke
[2017-02-22 20:17:57] Tetsuo : Farzad2: which feature?
[2017-02-22 20:18:00] sleger : Farzad2: if you ban me i will get your bot banned
[2017-02-22 20:18:02] Farzad2 : u broke the /price command
[2017-02-22 20:18:02] wurstgelee : finex 1040
[2017-02-22 20:18:08] Farzad2 : sleger: lol
[2017-02-22 20:18:09] trollbot : ``` What's the smallest organ in a goat? An ISIS member's penis.```
[2017-02-22 20:18:10] jung1 : /price
[2017-02-22 20:18:15] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp: 1141.90 (0%) Bitfinex: 1136.1 (0.19%) OKCoin: 1106.28 (0%) itBit: 1137.5 (0.07%) Kraken: 1135 (0%) GDAX: 1131.7 (-0.58%) ```
[2017-02-22 20:18:16] wurstgelee : *sipke to
[2017-02-22 20:18:17] Tetsuo : price, sentiment and wall sucks big time , only joke should be alive
[2017-02-22 20:18:24] sleger : +1
[2017-02-22 20:18:25] Farzad2 : /unban sleger
[2017-02-22 20:18:29] sleger : +2
[2017-02-22 20:18:32] wurstgelee : yeah, price i useless. everyone can have those open ffs
[2017-02-22 20:18:36] wurstgelee : *is
[2017-02-22 20:18:49] sleger : wurstgelee: apparently BTCDJS cant
[2017-02-22 20:18:50] jung1 : imo its cool
[2017-02-22 20:18:52] sleger : so not everyone
[2017-02-22 20:18:54] Farzad2 : wurstgelee: dont use it then
[2017-02-22 20:19:06] jung1 : should works on chinese trollbox
[2017-02-22 20:19:06] wurstgelee : i get annoyed by it if i want or not
[2017-02-22 20:19:19] wurstgelee : thats no choice up to me....which sucks
[2017-02-22 20:19:29] odieoh : you pay me money is how it works
[2017-02-22 20:19:50] Farzad2 : /price
[2017-02-22 20:19:54] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1141.90 (14.19%) Bitfinex : 1137.3 (13.73%) The Woodchipper: 1108.6 (10.86%) itBit : 1136.83 (13.68%) Kraken : 1135 (13.5%) GDAX : 1137.68 (13.77%) ```
[2017-02-22 20:20:02] -_- : finex and stamp going for it
[2017-02-22 20:20:49] Farzad2 : funny how many people sold for funding. :D
[2017-02-22 20:21:22] odieoh : Can't blame 'em, it was expensive
[2017-02-22 20:21:22] jung1 : yeah
[2017-02-22 20:21:30] rapidgains : prob endured taker fees opening and closing too
[2017-02-22 20:21:32] jung1 : trollbox is powerfull weapon
[2017-02-22 20:21:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1788 @ 1126.90
[2017-02-22 20:21:43] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Farzad2: hey nice update on bot
[2017-02-22 20:21:57] n00bie : bye bye shorts
[2017-02-22 20:21:58] rapidgains : so like 0.525 fee on top of market maker rekt
[2017-02-22 20:21:59] Farzad2 : DorianWhack-A-Moto: ty
[2017-02-22 20:22:08] BTCDJS : Farzad2: yeah good job
[2017-02-22 20:22:08] cryptobull : finex 1140
[2017-02-22 20:22:25] BTCDJS : all of us like the price and sentiment feature
[2017-02-22 20:22:25] Farzad2 : BTCDJS: seleger wants to get the bot banned
[2017-02-22 20:22:35] BTCDJS : Farzad2: ignore shrek
[2017-02-22 20:22:39] BTCDJS : hes grumpy
[2017-02-22 20:22:40] Farzad2 : lol
[2017-02-22 20:23:35] sleger : rapid thinks its because i have my period
[2017-02-22 20:23:38] j8 : BTCDJS: you can't speak for everyone, some people like it, some don't
[2017-02-22 20:23:45] BTCDJS : Farzad2: did you manage to research how to add whalecalls?
[2017-02-22 20:24:03] BTCDJS : j8: im winding sleger up
[2017-02-22 20:24:04] reyno : ahhh forgot to sell at 8pm. -0.27 on fees
[2017-02-22 20:24:14] reyno : thats annoying that!
[2017-02-22 20:24:16] Farzad2 : BTCDJS: not really, have been busy working on my MM bot
[2017-02-22 20:24:22] BTCDJS : K
[2017-02-22 20:24:29] cryptomill : Hi
[2017-02-22 20:24:33] -_- : $20 away from ATH on stamp
[2017-02-22 20:24:58] cryptomill : guys .. Im new to this trading platform and need some help
[2017-02-22 20:25:14] wurstgelee : cryptomill: https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview
[2017-02-22 20:25:17] wurstgelee : have a read
[2017-02-22 20:25:48] cryptomill : I traded 6000 contracts - buy at avg $1120.72 and sold at 1123.88 but I still realized a loss
[2017-02-22 20:26:07] reyno : cryptomill: there is some crazy rules/features on here takes a while to get used to them all!
[2017-02-22 20:26:13] cryptomill : can anyone help if this has anything to do with funding rate .. and also the whole trade interval was 20mins ..
[2017-02-22 20:26:32] Farzad2 : cryptomill: check your history log, u r making a mistake
[2017-02-22 20:27:04] rapidgains : cryptomill: you prob endured a funding fee on top of two takers fees
[2017-02-22 20:27:04] jung1 : cryptomill: you sold it via "Market Order" or "Limit"?
[2017-02-22 20:27:11] j8 : yeah you bought before the funding charge and sold after.
[2017-02-22 20:27:19] cryptomill : I sold via limit
[2017-02-22 20:27:28] rapidgains : was it resting on book?
[2017-02-22 20:27:31] sleger : well 4$ is nothing, i said it
[2017-02-22 20:27:36] Sam : its funding fees
[2017-02-22 20:27:37] rapidgains : or was it executed immediately
[2017-02-22 20:27:52] j8 : he made $3 on the trade and lost $4 to funding
[2017-02-22 20:27:56] n00bie : my longs from 2013 are almost in profit!
[2017-02-22 20:28:09] cryptobull : n00bie: lol
[2017-02-22 20:28:28] cryptomill : does funding rates apply for a trade interval of just 30 mins .. I mean they have fixed time stamp for funding rates?
[2017-02-22 20:28:35] Farzad2 : /price
[2017-02-22 20:28:40] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1141.90 (14.19%) Bitfinex : 1139.0 (13.90%) The Woodchipper: 1109.62 (10.96%) itBit : 1139.08 (13.91%) Kraken : 1138.91 (13.89%) GDAX : 1138.52 (13.85%) ```
[2017-02-22 20:28:47] docvcdc : how is every fucking exchange in existence blowing up and we're going backward?
[2017-02-22 20:28:52] rapidgains : they happen every 8 hours
[2017-02-22 20:29:04] Farzad2 : /price
[2017-02-22 20:29:07] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1142.00 (0.01%) Bitfinex : 1138.5 (-0.04%) The Woodchipper: 1109.62 (0.00%) itBit : 1139.08 (0.00%) Kraken : 1139 (0.01%) GDAX : 1138 (-0.05%) ```
[2017-02-22 20:29:33] cryptomill : every 8 hours .. should be relative to my trade timings .. why should it be based on fixed timestamps?
[2017-02-22 20:29:36] cryptomill : strange
[2017-02-22 20:29:56] rapidgains : thats how the swap market works
[2017-02-22 20:30:08] rapidgains : its supposed to keep price close to an index
[2017-02-22 20:30:11] rapidgains : by charging fees
[2017-02-22 20:30:19] rapidgains : https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide
[2017-02-22 20:30:22] cryptomill : thats a learning
[2017-02-22 20:30:28] rapidgains : "Perpetual Swaps mimic a margin-based spot market and hence trade close to the underlying reference Index Price. This is in contrast to a Futures Contract which may trade at significantly different prices due to basis. The primary mechanism to tether to spot price is Funding."
[2017-02-22 20:30:42] anonymous123421 : arbitrage if you think you'll make money off of it
[2017-02-22 20:30:51] rapidgains : funding is out in place when needed to deter market premium or discounts
[2017-02-22 20:30:58] rapidgains : put in place*
[2017-02-22 20:31:15] cryptomill : thanks buddy .. really appreciate it ... well it was my very first trade and was just about to smile on making a small gain .. when they changed the 8 hours stamp
[2017-02-22 20:31:21] cryptomill : how wonderful ;)
[2017-02-22 20:31:29] rapidgains : quarterly doesn't charge funding fees
[2017-02-22 20:31:34] rapidgains : but its subject to wild price swings
[2017-02-22 20:31:39] Farzad2 : /price
[2017-02-22 20:31:42] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1140.01 (14.00%) Bitfinex : 1139.0 (13.90%) The Woodchipper: 1109.62 (10.96%) itBit : 1138.72 (13.87%) Kraken : 1139 (13.90%) GDAX : 1138.53 (13.85%) ```
[2017-02-22 20:31:50] c.l : 7.5 hours left :)
[2017-02-22 20:31:52] sleger : cryptomill: thats also why you made money on the price, because after funding price jumped higher 4$
[2017-02-22 20:32:06] sleger : technically you still made a losing trade
[2017-02-22 20:32:18] n00bie : ubber?
[2017-02-22 20:32:20] sleger : most likely during your trade interval, price on spot went down
[2017-02-22 20:32:25] cryptobull : stamp 1180
[2017-02-22 20:32:36] cryptobull : finex 1179
[2017-02-22 20:32:53] rapidgains : you made me look
[2017-02-22 20:33:00] cryptobull : hahaha
[2017-02-22 20:33:03] cryptomill : so a good way to trade is to wait for a new funding rate cycle to begin .. enter and then close within the same 8 hour interval ..
[2017-02-22 20:33:23] sleger : no there is no "good way"
[2017-02-22 20:33:32] sleger : a good way to trade is to make money
[2017-02-22 20:33:52] sleger : but most traders will just end up giving it to me
[2017-02-22 20:33:56] rapidgains : as I said, Mar 31 doesnt charge funding fees
[2017-02-22 20:33:59] cryptomill : :)
[2017-02-22 20:34:16] Farzad2 : /price
[2017-02-22 20:34:30] cryptobull : next round the funding fees are lower
[2017-02-22 20:34:30] sleger : /joke
[2017-02-22 20:35:34] Farzad2 : /price
[2017-02-22 20:35:37] Rod : any money in the ETF Coin you think?
[2017-02-22 20:35:45] Rod : COIN
[2017-02-22 20:36:10] Farzad2 : /price
[2017-02-22 20:36:14] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp : 1142.94 (14.29%) Bitfinex : 1137.90 (13.79%) The Woodchipper: 1109.63 (10.96%) itBit : 1138.93 (13.89%) Kraken : 1135.13 (13.51%) GDAX : 1136.80 (13.68%) ```
[2017-02-22 20:36:19] anonymous123421 : COIN is just a prediction market
[2017-02-22 20:36:24] anonymous123421 : read the guide for it
[2017-02-22 20:36:33] anonymous123421 : https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/COIN
[2017-02-22 20:37:30] rapidgains : btc-e broke its ath lol
[2017-02-22 20:37:38] Rod : can we compare it to a pharmaceutical who's waiting for a drug to approval?
[2017-02-22 20:37:49] Rod : approve*
[2017-02-22 20:38:03] Farzad2 : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 20:38:06] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 59.76/40.24 Daily: 43.97/56.03 Weekly: 43.53/56.47 Monthly: 47.43/52.57```
[2017-02-22 20:38:07] rapidtrades : lol 40%
[2017-02-22 20:38:22] rapidtrades : retard nation
[2017-02-22 20:38:30] anonymous123421 : Rod: yes, that's the effect that the ETF approval will have of bitcoin's price. It's a binary event
[2017-02-22 20:38:43] Farzad2 : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 20:38:45] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 59.76 / 40.24 Daily: 43.97 / 56.03 Weekly: 43.53 / 56.47 Monthly: 47.43 / 52.57```
[2017-02-22 20:39:07] anonymous123421 : rapidtrades: I'm thinking about shorting COIN to hedge against ETF denial
[2017-02-22 20:39:11] Rod : So if it goes through, how much do we anticipate the price of the ETF to increase?
[2017-02-22 20:39:31] Farzad2 : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 20:39:34] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly : 59.42 / 40.58 Daily : 43.96 / 56.04 Weekly : 43.53 / 56.47 Monthly : 47.43 / 52.57```
[2017-02-22 20:39:35] anonymous123421 : Rod: It settles at 0 or 100
[2017-02-22 20:39:42] Tetsuo : /ban Farzad2
[2017-02-22 20:39:52] anonymous123421 : Rod: https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/COIN
[2017-02-22 20:39:57] cryptobull : /ban Tetsuo
[2017-02-22 20:40:03] Farzad2 : Tetsuo: ban my other user :D
[2017-02-22 20:40:08] Farzad2 : Farzad
[2017-02-22 20:40:09] mark121 : right on time
[2017-02-22 20:40:11] Tetsuo : /ban Farzad
[2017-02-22 20:40:11] trollbot : Critical Error! God is unbannable! You are banned and will get REKT soon. :D
[2017-02-22 20:40:26] rapidgains : lol
[2017-02-22 20:40:29] cryptobull : lol
[2017-02-22 20:40:33] mark121 : let the bodies hit the floor
[2017-02-22 20:40:58] Farzad2 : Tetsuo: :p
[2017-02-22 20:41:10] Tetsuo : not funny
[2017-02-22 20:41:15] Tetsuo : :-(
[2017-02-22 20:41:23] j8 : i've been selling COIN around 40. if that bet loses i should make a ton on BTC
[2017-02-22 20:41:26] Farzad2 : Tetsuo: its a joke, u r not banned
[2017-02-22 20:41:33] Tetsuo : i know :-)
[2017-02-22 20:41:33] BTCDJS : Farzad2: what happens if a mod bans you? same message or does it ban you?
[2017-02-22 20:41:43] Tetsuo : Farzad is the trollbot mod
[2017-02-22 20:41:48] Farzad2 : BTCDJS: it bans me. lol
[2017-02-22 20:41:56] MikeHunt : mark121: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfofgw8UWn4&t=1m27s
[2017-02-22 20:42:07] BTCDJS : Tetsuo: im a mod too
[2017-02-22 20:42:19] Nerve : Hi guys, i was offline a bit after the last masive dump who rekt me and my all parts of my heart
[2017-02-22 20:42:20] Nerve : lol
[2017-02-22 20:42:22] Tetsuo : /ban BTCDJS
[2017-02-22 20:42:24] Farzad2 : BTCDJS and j8 are mods too
[2017-02-22 20:42:28] mark121 : haha nice1 MikeHunt
[2017-02-22 20:42:35] j8 : /ban j8
[2017-02-22 20:42:36] mark121 : appropriate
[2017-02-22 20:42:38] Tetsuo : Farzad2: wtf you made @BTCDJS a mod?