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[2017-02-22 18:48:46] anonymous123421 : Bitcoin has utility for transferring wealth, but it's true that most "traders" and "investors" are just speculators
[2017-02-22 18:49:25] j8 : other commodities are scientifically defined, bitcoin can become something else just because the community decided
[2017-02-22 18:50:06] anonymous123421 : j8: very true
[2017-02-22 18:50:27] j8 : that's the problem with the etf, it's not well defined what it's even tracking
[2017-02-22 18:51:01] j8 : it could end up tracking an alt-coin by accident, while bitcoin goes on
[2017-02-22 18:51:50] anonymous123421 : Yeah the hard fork definition is worrisome
[2017-02-22 18:52:28] rapidtrades : not rly, that's the best solution after a HF
[2017-02-22 18:52:50] j8 : how so
[2017-02-22 18:52:56] sleger : they should hard fork the etf too
[2017-02-22 18:53:00] rapidtrades : when u do an ETF u kinda have to set these rules upfront so investors know what theyre getting
[2017-02-22 18:53:00] sleger : you end up owning 2 etfs
[2017-02-22 18:53:09] sleger : moar bitcoin etfs is moar better for price
[2017-02-22 18:53:23] rapidtrades : j8: well what do u suggest instead?
[2017-02-22 18:53:25] sleger : to the squared moon
[2017-02-22 18:54:59] j8 : i don't know the entire answer but from what they've proposed, it's not ready for primetime
[2017-02-22 18:55:46] rapidtrades : agree but that's part of bitcoin, not their ETF
[2017-02-22 18:55:52] rapidtrades : cos HF is a possibilty
[2017-02-22 18:56:36] j8 : if a minority fork has value, then the holdings of the ETF include the value of both
[2017-02-22 18:57:00] j8 : investors in the ETF should get the benefit of that
[2017-02-22 18:57:17] water : How can I short steem?
[2017-02-22 18:57:36] water : (...that is not a dumb joke about my username)
[2017-02-22 18:58:14] Tetsuo : keep it below 100 ° C
[2017-02-22 18:58:35] BTCDJS : Tetsuo: bellow 0 is enought
[2017-02-22 18:58:41] water : :)
[2017-02-22 18:58:46] Tetsuo : true for long term holders
[2017-02-22 18:59:13] j8 : if there was a fork where both chains continued, it might take some time for markets, miners and users to decide what is "bitcoin"
[2017-02-22 18:59:38] BTCDJS : j8: in the mean time price goes to 400
[2017-02-22 18:59:50] j8 : allowing the ETF managers to arbitrarily decide on one chain is reckless
[2017-02-22 19:00:25] j8 : sure in that scenario you want to sell both @BTCDJS
[2017-02-22 19:00:53] Tetsuo : 440BTC sell wall @BTC-E
[2017-02-22 19:01:05] wurstgelee : j8: yep. what if they fork btc themselves, lower the difficulty of their fork via update and therefore have the longer chain? ;)
[2017-02-22 19:01:05] anonymous123421 : j8: I don't disagree, but what is the alternative? They do stipulate that the fork with more hashing power in the first 48 hours after a fork is the one they use
[2017-02-22 19:01:28] wurstgelee : oh no, was hasing power related
[2017-02-22 19:01:28] wurstgelee : nvm
[2017-02-22 19:01:40] wurstgelee : 48h is too short tho
[2017-02-22 19:01:41] j8 : they give that criterion, and they also give a way out if they decide it's not appropriate
[2017-02-22 19:01:43] wurstgelee : thats the problem
[2017-02-22 19:01:56] NukeLaloosh : j8: why wouldn't the etf value be the combination of both coins?
[2017-02-22 19:01:59] j8 : the mining criterion can easily be gamed by miners
[2017-02-22 19:02:21] j8 : NukeLaloosh: i say it should be, but that's not what the proposal says
[2017-02-22 19:02:41] wurstgelee : yeah, i am not getting that etiher
[2017-02-22 19:02:51] wurstgelee : would make way more sense
[2017-02-22 19:03:01] j8 : this means that if the market perceives a fork as a risk, the ETF should trade at a discount to actual coins
[2017-02-22 19:03:33] j8 : which ruins the point anyway
[2017-02-22 19:03:53] golem2 : could you tell me why I can not login via chrome ?
[2017-02-22 19:04:02] wurstgelee : since etf would have coins on both chains ofc.... otherwise its a little like eth trading exchanges not giving the respective etc balance to their users
[2017-02-22 19:04:08] sleger : golem2: let me try whats your password ?
[2017-02-22 19:04:17] golem2 : do you have same problem when you are log in on different computer ?
[2017-02-22 19:04:32] ross : frodo69
[2017-02-22 19:05:06] sleger : ross: there is nothing to steal in your account
[2017-02-22 19:05:26] ross : sleger: theres your mothers nudes
[2017-02-22 19:05:30] j8 : wurstgelee: yes and it could even be worse, the system could be gamed so that they ONLY give etc
[2017-02-22 19:05:51] sleger : ross: you are 15 years old ?
[2017-02-22 19:06:00] wurstgelee : j8: yep
[2017-02-22 19:06:01] ross : close to it
[2017-02-22 19:06:19] ross : richest 15yr old youll know
[2017-02-22 19:06:45] wurstgelee : but thee gaming part lleft aside: how would they possible justify to only credit 1 chains' balance to their holders?
[2017-02-22 19:06:48] sleger : being born is a rich family is not attributable to any real success
[2017-02-22 19:06:49] wurstgelee : thats doesnt make any sense
[2017-02-22 19:07:45] rapidtrades : RED ALERT
[2017-02-22 19:07:51] rapidtrades : MAX FUNDING INCOMING
[2017-02-22 19:07:53] sleger : rapidtrades: you got your period ?
[2017-02-22 19:08:12] rapidtrades : no but ur gf did
[2017-02-22 19:08:14] sleger : (i typed that just after red alert)
[2017-02-22 19:08:18] j8 : wurstgelee: justified by the terms of the ETF. crazy terms that shouldn't be approved
[2017-02-22 19:08:24] sleger : rapidtrades: happens to her once a month yes
[2017-02-22 19:08:33] MrRGnome : sleger: Do you know a lot of women who scream "RED ALERT MAX FUNDING INCOMING" on their period?
[2017-02-22 19:08:36] wurstgelee : j8: agreed
[2017-02-22 19:08:47] sleger : MrRGnome: learn to read " sleger: (i typed that just after red alert)"
[2017-02-22 19:08:50] rapidtrades : sleger: its good that she is still fertile
[2017-02-22 19:09:17] Tetsuo : kids :-(
[2017-02-22 19:09:21] MrRGnome : sleger: So you failed to read, yet you're calling me on failing to read???
[2017-02-22 19:09:33] MrRGnome : sleger: Someone sure is ont heir period alright
[2017-02-22 19:09:41] sleger : MrRGnome: no, i pressed enter as he added the second sentence dummy
[2017-02-22 19:10:04] rapidtrades : most ppl know not to interrupt my flow
[2017-02-22 19:10:14] rapidtrades : i rarely finish after 1 sentence
[2017-02-22 19:11:29] rapidtrades : smth is gonna happen soon...my bet is on china
[2017-02-22 19:11:53] sleger : who's gonna get the biggest funding ?
[2017-02-22 19:12:09] rapidtrades : micmix?
[2017-02-22 19:12:17] sleger : why ?
[2017-02-22 19:12:23] sleger : its not based on volume
[2017-02-22 19:12:28] rapidtrades : cos he's loaded
[2017-02-22 19:12:31] j8 : micmix said he pays funding more often than not
[2017-02-22 19:12:32] Shaman : depends who is the shortest
[2017-02-22 19:12:44] sleger : Shaman: that was my point, thanks genius
[2017-02-22 19:12:51] j8 : because he trades it more efficiently than traders
[2017-02-22 19:12:52] Shaman : yw+
[2017-02-22 19:12:53] ThatCEOGuy : I'm back up to -90%, dont feel to good
[2017-02-22 19:13:10] sleger : I reduced my short on swap quite a lot so might not be me :( XBTUSD -452500 403.0553 XBT
[2017-02-22 19:13:17] rapidtrades : ThatCEOGuy: didn't u cut ur size?
[2017-02-22 19:13:43] ThatCEOGuy : rapidtrades: Should I have? Everyone told me to hold untol 1080
[2017-02-22 19:13:50] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: did you not sell a third as price went down?
[2017-02-22 19:14:02] ThatCEOGuy : ...
[2017-02-22 19:14:06] etoque : ThatCEOGuy: lol
[2017-02-22 19:14:10] rapidtrades : if that's ur whole risk capital, I told u to cut ur size
[2017-02-22 19:14:17] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: no we told you to sell some
[2017-02-22 19:14:26] cryptokeeper : CEO guy is getting massive pay day
[2017-02-22 19:14:29] rapidgains : stop listening to trollbox
[2017-02-22 19:14:34] cryptokeeper : do the numbers on it.... what u gonna get? 1-2btc?
[2017-02-22 19:14:37] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: I said use limit orders not market. Remeber?
[2017-02-22 19:14:52] rapidtrades : rapidgains: what do u mean stop listening....if he's trading too big he should listen
[2017-02-22 19:14:58] cryptokeeper : BTCDJS: doesnt matter.... same fees.... minus maker/taker and hidden orders offer a rebate
[2017-02-22 19:15:07] rapidgains : lol
[2017-02-22 19:15:23] cryptokeeper : market and limit = same same
[2017-02-22 19:15:39] cryptokeeper : one just goes on the books VS ripping the order book in real time
[2017-02-22 19:15:50] j8 : same fees, except for the fees
[2017-02-22 19:16:05] cryptokeeper : maker/taker and hidden orders
[2017-02-22 19:16:38] cryptokeeper : obv... for limit you will maximize or minimize on your PNL
[2017-02-22 19:16:42] cryptokeeper : but it may skip
[2017-02-22 19:16:59] cryptokeeper : bitflyer tryin' to dump
[2017-02-22 19:17:08] BTCDJS : cryptokeeper: thing is this is his very first trade. He doesnt know what hes doing or what you are talking about. He went all in 10BTC short. His LIQ is 1200
[2017-02-22 19:17:21] cryptokeeper : I know....
[2017-02-22 19:17:23] rapidgains : what
[2017-02-22 19:17:26] rapidgains : r for real
[2017-02-22 19:17:26] cryptokeeper : fair enough... and good on you for helping him
[2017-02-22 19:17:27] rapidtrades : fees and premiums are getting high now, longs have to either ppush for the finish line or surrender here
[2017-02-22 19:17:43] cryptokeeper : BTCDJS
[2017-02-22 19:18:04] cryptokeeper : Yeah I dont see this push happening... people losing confidence in BFX going down like thrice
[2017-02-22 19:18:11] cryptokeeper : getting DDoSed
[2017-02-22 19:18:16] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: Just HODL and accept that you may lose it.
[2017-02-22 19:18:21] alejandromasari : short xbth17 @1149 comeon
[2017-02-22 19:18:40] cryptokeeper : nah
[2017-02-22 19:18:57] sleger : change your story bro "AlejandroMasari sold some $BTCUSD xbth17 at 1100 good day today"
[2017-02-22 19:19:01] rapidgains : da phuq
[2017-02-22 19:19:11] ThruTheFloor : Are we hitting ATH high today or not?
[2017-02-22 19:19:14] ross : lol someone just bought 150 btc
[2017-02-22 19:19:23] ross : another another 50
[2017-02-22 19:19:23] anonymous123421 : sleger: lol
[2017-02-22 19:19:32] rapidtrades : alejandromasari: lol busted
[2017-02-22 19:19:44] sleger : also https://twitter.com/alejandrodinero/
[2017-02-22 19:19:44] alejandromasari : rapidtrades: please short
[2017-02-22 19:19:46] rapidtrades : too bad this isn't twitter and u can delete it
[2017-02-22 19:20:05] rapidtrades : alejandromasari: <<< scammer
[2017-02-22 19:20:05] alejandromasari : fill the remainder of my order.
[2017-02-22 19:20:44] cryptokeeper : ross: lol
[2017-02-22 19:20:46] rapidgains : how were you not filled at 1100?
[2017-02-22 19:21:10] rapidtrades : he doesn't trade, that's how
[2017-02-22 19:22:17] rapidgains : there should be a required trade volume to speak in this chat
[2017-02-22 19:22:25] sleger : +10
[2017-02-22 19:22:34] reyno : what is the ATH again?
[2017-02-22 19:22:42] anonymous123421 : rapidgains: What about people who hold positions?
[2017-02-22 19:22:51] BTCDJS : Let me try to wrap my head around this. Dinero is short. But he wants rapid to short so he can fill dineros order? Am I missing something. that doesnt make sense
[2017-02-22 19:23:24] rapidgains : idk man, just need something
[2017-02-22 19:23:31] sleger : yes you are missing the fact that you're talking about someone who doesnt know what he is saying
[2017-02-22 19:23:43] BTCDJS : Oh
[2017-02-22 19:23:50] BTCDJS : but hes wall street
[2017-02-22 19:23:51] j8 : he's here to sell subscriptions isn't he?
[2017-02-22 19:24:05] anonymous123421 : That's hilarious
[2017-02-22 19:24:08] Wings : /price
[2017-02-22 19:24:09] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1134.0 (0.14%)
[2017-02-22 19:24:09] trollbot : itBit: 1135.21 (0.07%)
[2017-02-22 19:24:09] trollbot : GDAX: 1137.49 (0.16%)
[2017-02-22 19:24:09] trollbot : Kraken: 1135 (0%)
[2017-02-22 19:24:10] laisee : seems tote legit
[2017-02-22 19:24:10] trollbot : OKCoin: 1108.76 (0%)
[2017-02-22 19:24:10] trollbot : Bitstamp: 1137.32 (0.22%)
[2017-02-22 19:24:26] sleger : yes he has a real time news subscription service with only 6 hours delays
[2017-02-22 19:24:40] Wings : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 19:24:42] sumwen : i like how alejandro has a picture of Amr Diab, an egyptian singer, on his stocktwits profile
[2017-02-22 19:24:43] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 60.62/39.38 Daily: 43.42/56.58 Weekly: 43.3/56.7 Monthly: 47.4/52.6
[2017-02-22 19:24:49] sleger : also all the advice tweets on his history have been winning trades
[2017-02-22 19:24:50] BTCDJS : I see. And he makes people money
[2017-02-22 19:25:12] cryptokeeper : to be honest... i would be kind of pissed if i was in a perp long right now... and heavy
[2017-02-22 19:25:20] cryptokeeper : 40,000cont and up
[2017-02-22 19:25:36] j8 : that's why you trade the swap counter-trend
[2017-02-22 19:25:49] n00bie : what is a "perp" long?
[2017-02-22 19:25:50] cryptokeeper : the monthly though when do profits realize
[2017-02-22 19:25:56] sleger : its only a 4$ fee come on
[2017-02-22 19:25:56] cryptokeeper : and when can you withdraw those profits
[2017-02-22 19:26:08] cryptokeeper : does the Mar 31 need to settle first to withdraw the profits?
[2017-02-22 19:26:13] j8 : yup
[2017-02-22 19:26:20] j8 : except parts that you close
[2017-02-22 19:26:33] cryptokeeper : so you go long.... make .5btc
[2017-02-22 19:26:41] cryptokeeper : close off.... i want to withdraw the btc
[2017-02-22 19:26:48] sleger : yes because ADL and not socialize losses so you can
[2017-02-22 19:26:50] rapidtrades : lol only $4 fee
[2017-02-22 19:26:58] j8 : we've been asking for a way to use unrealized profits for a while, and they're "working on it"
[2017-02-22 19:27:06] sleger : rapidtrades: when the price goes up 10$ an hour its nothing
[2017-02-22 19:27:12] rapidtrades : yes that one sucks @j8
[2017-02-22 19:27:23] rapidtrades : sleger: pretty sure we were here 24 hours ago bra
[2017-02-22 19:27:24] j8 : you do get realised PNL immediately though
[2017-02-22 19:27:27] sleger : the way is to close and reopen (and pay fees)
[2017-02-22 19:28:08] cryptokeeper : close and reopen?
[2017-02-22 19:28:08] cryptokeeper : wtf?
[2017-02-22 19:28:09] anonymous123421 : "only 4$" goddamn guys do you know how much the rate adds up to if you annualize it?
[2017-02-22 19:28:15] j8 : rapidtrades: it does, but i can see how the other way could be abused with 100x
[2017-02-22 19:28:29] cryptokeeper : so I closed out on the Mar31..... .5btc... i want to withdraw it
[2017-02-22 19:28:38] cryptokeeper : am i waiting til the contract settles on mar 31?
[2017-02-22 19:28:50] cryptokeeper : or Friday
[2017-02-22 19:28:53] cryptokeeper : or that day
[2017-02-22 19:28:59] j8 : realised PNL is immediate
[2017-02-22 19:29:00] rapidtrades : anonymous123421: its only 410%, relax
[2017-02-22 19:29:18] cryptokeeper : so right when you close out at profit or loss... you can pull out all your btc
[2017-02-22 19:29:22] cryptokeeper : if you were in Mar 31
[2017-02-22 19:29:23] j8 : yes
[2017-02-22 19:29:26] cryptokeeper : same as perp?
[2017-02-22 19:29:31] j8 : yes
[2017-02-22 19:29:33] cryptokeeper : kk
[2017-02-22 19:29:35] cryptokeeper : i thought so.
[2017-02-22 19:29:44] cryptokeeper : wasnt 100%.... even the documentation doesnt state it clearly
[2017-02-22 19:30:19] rapidgains : a while back it depended on availability
[2017-02-22 19:30:23] rapidgains : not sure if thats the case now
[2017-02-22 19:30:31] rapidgains : they would unlock funds
[2017-02-22 19:30:54] j8 : nope because nothing is held for DPE, you always get realised PNL right away
[2017-02-22 19:31:07] alejandromasari : thanks for the fill at 1148.96
[2017-02-22 19:31:21] cryptokeeper : rapidgains: ah yes i remember that... that was a while ago though
[2017-02-22 19:31:29] mendax090 : /price
[2017-02-22 19:31:30] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1133.9 (-0.01%)
[2017-02-22 19:31:30] trollbot : Bitstamp: 1140.29 (0.26%)
[2017-02-22 19:31:30] trollbot : GDAX: 1136.34 (-0.1%)
[2017-02-22 19:31:31] trollbot : Kraken: 1133.69 (-0.12%)
[2017-02-22 19:31:31] trollbot : itBit: 1134.89 (-0.03%)
[2017-02-22 19:31:31] trollbot : OKCoin: 1108.76 (0%)
[2017-02-22 19:31:36] sleger : alejandromasari: you took your loss from 1100 short ?
[2017-02-22 19:31:39] BTCDJS : j8: whats the benefit of holding March till fruition? 2%
[2017-02-22 19:31:46] BTCDJS : ?
[2017-02-22 19:32:05] j8 : i don't understand
[2017-02-22 19:32:08] sleger : alejandromasari: there was NO trade at 1148.96 in recent trade history LIAR LIAR LIAR
[2017-02-22 19:32:13] Cryptonary : How much is the funding for Lets say 10.000 contracts?
[2017-02-22 19:32:27] Cryptonary : long
[2017-02-22 19:32:34] sleger : Cryptonary: 0.375%
[2017-02-22 19:32:49] rapidgains : Cryptonary: x5 the trades fees of a market order
[2017-02-22 19:32:59] sleger : "alejandromasari: thanks for the fill at 1148.96" <= why the need to lie ?
[2017-02-22 19:33:10] Cryptonary : how much Will that be
[2017-02-22 19:33:23] sleger : Cryptonary: do you have a calculator ?
[2017-02-22 19:33:26] sleger : use it
[2017-02-22 19:33:30] BTCDJS : j8: why does it expire in march? would holding a long all the way to march if price keeps rising be more rewarding? I heard something about 2%
[2017-02-22 19:34:55] j8 : BTCDJS: well the premium is a little over 2%.. that's basically what it costs you to long for 37 days. or what you are paid to short for 37 days
[2017-02-22 19:35:01] cryptokeeper : Cryptonary: pretty much for 100k contracts you will be paying .370btc
[2017-02-22 19:35:03] cryptokeeper : which is a LOT
[2017-02-22 19:35:12] cryptokeeper : 350-400 USD
[2017-02-22 19:35:26] rapidtrades : 375 usd
[2017-02-22 19:35:27] sleger : 375
[2017-02-22 19:35:39] sleger : precisely
[2017-02-22 19:35:42] cryptokeeper : yea
[2017-02-22 19:35:42] BTCDJS : j8: K got it
[2017-02-22 19:35:42] rapidgains : rekt
[2017-02-22 19:35:45] alejandromasari : sleger: you can shut your pvsy lips now and be quiet http://imgur.com/IELzCuT
[2017-02-22 19:35:46] sleger : rapidtrades: did you see alejandro new lie ?
[2017-02-22 19:35:52] cryptokeeper : super rekt on longs
[2017-02-22 19:36:07] cryptokeeper : that is big time shit..... for what? to keep your position open? no thanks
[2017-02-22 19:36:07] rapidtrades : sleger: yes, he lies all the time
[2017-02-22 19:36:09] sleger : alejandromasari: YUGE 5 btc position lol
[2017-02-22 19:36:15] Tetsuo : lol
[2017-02-22 19:36:37] sleger : alejandromasari: 1148.96 is your average entry not the price at which you got filled, unlike what you said
[2017-02-22 19:36:40] BTCDJS : Hes got a teeny weeny. He needs to boast and lie to make it appear bigger in his mind
[2017-02-22 19:36:49] rapidgains : thats a long
[2017-02-22 19:36:51] alejandromasari : sleger: I have bigger bids on low wicks
[2017-02-22 19:36:51] rapidgains : wut
[2017-02-22 19:36:59] j8 : BTCDJS: and you can only see that as a fixed rate if you hold until expiry, since the premium can swing between now and then
[2017-02-22 19:37:01] alejandromasari : size management is key
[2017-02-22 19:37:03] rapidgains : thought he shorted?
[2017-02-22 19:37:03] BTC-Noob : so the sec can drop a bombshell any moment, it doest necessarily have to be on 11-03, can be earlier as well
[2017-02-22 19:37:05] Tetsuo : alejandromasari: another 2000 contracts?
[2017-02-22 19:37:15] alejandromasari : 30,000
[2017-02-22 19:37:33] sleger : no you have about 6000 contracts
[2017-02-22 19:37:37] BTC-Noob : alejandromasari: how much leverage do u trade usually? more than 50x?
[2017-02-22 19:37:41] sleger : sorry to disappoint
[2017-02-22 19:37:43] BTCDJS : j8: K thanks
[2017-02-22 19:37:52] Tetsuo : sure he´s a pro, 50x is minuimun if you have 10/10 right
[2017-02-22 19:37:56] alejandromasari : BTC-Noob: max 5x
[2017-02-22 19:38:11] sleger : liq price 982.63 LIAR
[2017-02-22 19:38:25] BTCDJS : Ha Ha
[2017-02-22 19:38:33] sleger : this guy is awesome
[2017-02-22 19:38:45] Tetsuo : alejandromasari: PLZ STOP LYING
[2017-02-22 19:38:48] sleger : he hasnt said one true thing and provided everything to us to debunk his lies
[2017-02-22 19:39:02] BTCDJS : his penis is shrinking more and more after every comeback
[2017-02-22 19:40:05] BTCDJS : *poof* <= Now it just vanished
[2017-02-22 19:40:09] cryptokeeper : BTC-Noob: it wont be earlier
[2017-02-22 19:40:29] cryptokeeper : BTCDJS: doing too much coke? haha
[2017-02-22 19:40:45] BTC-Noob : cryptokeeper: really how can u be so sure?
[2017-02-22 19:40:58] cryptokeeper : RIP and moment of silence for dude that bought 100+ BTC on stamp at the daily local top.
[2017-02-22 19:41:18] cryptokeeper : its about to get turnt down for what
[2017-02-22 19:41:21] j8 : someone's gotta do it!
[2017-02-22 19:41:25] m3s : cryptokeeper: hes in it for the long haul
[2017-02-22 19:41:27] cryptokeeper : j8: very true
[2017-02-22 19:41:28] Farzad2 : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 19:41:30] trollbot : ```Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 59.57/40.43 Daily: 43.58/56.42 Weekly: 43.32/56.68 Monthly: 47.4/52.6```
[2017-02-22 19:41:33] BTC-Noob : cryptokeeper: it could be btc bought for the seed basket of one of the ETF'
[2017-02-22 19:41:41] jung1 : /wall
[2017-02-22 19:41:41] trollbot : BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1139.49 => [982 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1169.99 Bids: 1108.00 => [646 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1138.06
[2017-02-22 19:41:41] trollbot : BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1134.1 => [3406 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1164.3 Bids: 1103.4 => [1205 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1133.8
[2017-02-22 19:41:46] cryptokeeper : m3s: wrong way to do it. IMHO.
[2017-02-22 19:41:55] cryptokeeper : BTC-Noob: could be.... 99% chance it isnt
[2017-02-22 19:42:03] sumwen : 5x 6-fig contracts is chump change... why do you care about his statements
[2017-02-22 19:42:07] BTC-Noob : /wall
[2017-02-22 19:42:08] trollbot : BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1138.89 => [889 Ƀ] (-9.47%) <= 1169.00 Bids: 1108.00 => [557 Ƀ] (-13.78%) <= 1138.06
[2017-02-22 19:42:08] m3s : cryptokeeper: how would you ?
[2017-02-22 19:42:09] trollbot : BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1134.0 => [3421 Ƀ] (0.44%) <= 1164.0 Bids: 1103.4 => [1213 Ƀ] (0.66%) <= 1133.8
[2017-02-22 19:42:15] cryptokeeper : you dont just fat finger buy 100+ btc on market order on stamp
[2017-02-22 19:42:31] cryptokeeper : and say it is for ETF or long term
[2017-02-22 19:42:34] cryptokeeper : you scale in.
[2017-02-22 19:42:39] Tetsuo : cryptokeeper: buying hos won asks @ the top?
[2017-02-22 19:42:42] Farzad : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 19:42:45] trollbot : ```Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 60.88/39.12 Daily: 43.6/56.4 Weekly: 43.33/56.67 Monthly: 47.4/52.6```
[2017-02-22 19:42:47] Tetsuo : * his own
[2017-02-22 19:42:58] BTC-Noob : /wall
[2017-02-22 19:42:58] trollbot : BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1139.49 => [983 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1169.99 Bids: 1108.00 => [659 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1138.89
[2017-02-22 19:42:58] cryptokeeper : Tetsuo: could be probable.... fees though
[2017-02-22 19:42:58] trollbot : BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1134.0 => [3416 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1164.0 Bids: 1103.4 => [1215 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1133.9
[2017-02-22 19:43:02] cryptokeeper : wash trading?
[2017-02-22 19:43:06] Tetsuo : think so
[2017-02-22 19:43:11] BTC-Noob : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 19:43:13] trollbot : ```Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 61.77/38.23 Daily: 43.64/56.36 Weekly: 43.32/56.68 Monthly: 47.4/52.6```
[2017-02-22 19:43:22] cryptokeeper : wash trading... very probable but you incur losses
[2017-02-22 19:43:37] rapidgains : sumwen: this is why we need a requirement to talk in this chat
[2017-02-22 19:43:55] Farzad2 : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 19:43:55] BTC-Noob : why is bitstamp trading 20$ higher than us?
[2017-02-22 19:43:58] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 61.77/38.23 Daily: 43.64/56.36 Weekly: 43.32/56.68 Monthly: 47.4/52.6```
[2017-02-22 19:44:08] cryptokeeper : lol... BULLstamp..... they dont know what they doing
[2017-02-22 19:44:19] cryptokeeper : bullstamp doesnt lead. they have zero books/liquidity
[2017-02-22 19:44:21] sleger : trollbot: nobody asked you
[2017-02-22 19:44:23] cryptokeeper : its always been an issue
[2017-02-22 19:44:30] dremann9 : how do i stop lower stop limit sell orders from being canceled when my first one executes?
[2017-02-22 19:44:48] j8 : uncheck "Close on Trigger"
[2017-02-22 19:45:03] dremann9 : awesome, ty
[2017-02-22 19:46:12] Farzad2 : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 19:46:14] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 65.4/34.6 Daily: 43.88/56.13 Weekly: 43.36/56.64 Monthly: 47.41/52.59```
[2017-02-22 19:46:20] Yuppie : https://exchangewar.info
[2017-02-22 19:46:41] Yuppie : Finex and Stamp have significant spot volume
[2017-02-22 19:46:41] jung1 : wtf
[2017-02-22 19:46:55] Tetsuo : however bidsum@ Bitstamp within a 10% range has lowered about 30% in the last hours
[2017-02-22 19:46:56] jung1 : bitmex is biggest exchange on the market?
[2017-02-22 19:47:04] Cryptonary : cryptokeeper: Thanks mate
[2017-02-22 19:47:16] rapidgains : depends on what you define an exchange as
[2017-02-22 19:47:20] rapidgains : spot vs futures
[2017-02-22 19:47:32] cryptokeeper : Cryptonary: for what? sorry i am in like 10 chats at once lol
[2017-02-22 19:47:36] cryptokeeper : jung1: nope
[2017-02-22 19:47:38] Farzad2 : /joke
[2017-02-22 19:47:57] Farzad2 : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 19:48:03] Tetsuo : /ban Farzad2
[2017-02-22 19:48:22] cryptokeeper : are you allowed multiple sub-accounts?
[2017-02-22 19:48:28] cryptokeeper : or is that against ToS
[2017-02-22 19:48:37] sleger : its ok
[2017-02-22 19:48:41] j8 : yes, and yes
[2017-02-22 19:48:54] Farzad2 : /joke
[2017-02-22 19:48:58] sleger : /ban muslims oh it was already done
[2017-02-22 19:49:01] cryptokeeper : just need diff email
[2017-02-22 19:49:04] trollbot : ``` You'll never be able to go back in time and kill Hitler as a baby. You'd be way too short and weak.
[2017-02-22 19:49:13] j8 : it is against the ToS technically
[2017-02-22 19:49:14] CryptoMill : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 19:49:16] trollbot : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 60.89/39.11 Daily: 43.71/56.29 Weekly: 43.35/56.65 Monthly: 47.41/52.59```
[2017-02-22 19:49:26] sleger : j8: although admins said in the chat it was ok
[2017-02-22 19:49:31] spice : Price $20 behind bitstamp, thoughts on this?
[2017-02-22 19:49:33] Farzad2 : /joke
[2017-02-22 19:49:37] j8 : yeah, and everyone does it
[2017-02-22 19:49:37] trollbot : ``` Why don't blind people skydive? It scares the fuck out of the dogs.```
[2017-02-22 19:49:52] BTCDJS : I decided to yolo a short on 1broker instead
[2017-02-22 19:50:10] sleger : BTCDJS: smart move
[2017-02-22 19:50:21] j8 : they are probably pricing high eh
[2017-02-22 19:50:23] rapidgains : spice: we follow an index
[2017-02-22 19:50:31] j8 : coinbase and bitstamp?
[2017-02-22 19:50:34] rapidgains : okc spot is at 1108
[2017-02-22 19:50:43] rapidgains : stamp is a 1140
[2017-02-22 19:50:42] jung1 : so eeryone here is shorting now?
[2017-02-22 19:50:46] rapidgains : swap is in the middle
[2017-02-22 19:50:53] BTCDJS : 1135 for a short 1137 for a long
[2017-02-22 19:50:58] BTCDJS : price is 1135
[2017-02-22 19:51:20] j8 : just don't pay too many overnight fees
[2017-02-22 19:51:22] BTCDJS : shit thats wrong
[2017-02-22 19:51:31] Farzad2 : /wall
[2017-02-22 19:51:31] trollbot : ``` BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1134.1 => [3420 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1164.3 Bids: 1103.4 => [1214 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1133.9```
[2017-02-22 19:51:31] trollbot : ``` BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1139.74 => [952 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1169.99 Bids: 1109.00 => [675 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1139.47```
[2017-02-22 19:51:38] Dynamix : To long or short funding in 8 mins
[2017-02-22 19:51:46] tach : A fake index to fleece longs.
[2017-02-22 19:51:54] BTCDJS : price is 1137 shorts 1136 longs 1139
[2017-02-22 19:51:55] Dynamix : What is the funding thing ?
[2017-02-22 19:52:21] Yuppie : Somehow I'm missing a real liftoff
[2017-02-22 19:52:22] sleger : Dynamix: dont worry about it
[2017-02-22 19:52:27] rapidgains : too bad bitmex doesnt have a required test to take before trading
[2017-02-22 19:52:28] rapidgains : lmao
[2017-02-22 19:52:32] Dynamix : Lol what do you mean ?
[2017-02-22 19:52:35] sleger : its only 4$
[2017-02-22 19:52:37] Dynamix : haha I'm gonna short it lol
[2017-02-22 19:52:38] -_- : i'm short. get paid for funding and wait for the dump for max gains
[2017-02-22 19:52:40] rapidgains : its all in the reference page
[2017-02-22 19:52:42] Dynamix : $4 for what ?
[2017-02-22 19:52:44] Dynamix : each btc ?
[2017-02-22 19:52:55] sleger : see, nothing
[2017-02-22 19:53:08] sleger : small
[2017-02-22 19:53:19] tach : 12 daily. Robbery.
[2017-02-22 19:53:20] Dynamix : ;)
[2017-02-22 19:53:22] BTCDJS : shit so it was a dumb move huh?
[2017-02-22 19:53:33] BTCDJS : YOLO
[2017-02-22 19:53:57] Farzad2 : /price
[2017-02-22 19:53:58] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp: 1139.47 (13.95%)```
[2017-02-22 19:53:58] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex: 1133.9 (13.39%)```
[2017-02-22 19:53:58] trollbot : ``` Kraken: 1133.99 (13.4%)```
[2017-02-22 19:53:58] trollbot : ``` GDAX: 1134.98 (13.5%)```
[2017-02-22 19:53:58] trollbot : ``` itBit: 1135.68 (13.57%)```
[2017-02-22 19:53:59] trollbot : ``` OKCoin: 1108.71 (10.87%)```
[2017-02-22 19:54:12] ross : so in 5mins im gonna get hit for $40 of my 10btc
[2017-02-22 19:54:13] ross : ?
[2017-02-22 19:54:28] sleger : Farzad2: takes too much space
[2017-02-22 19:54:38] sleger : ross: sell before
[2017-02-22 19:54:38] m3s : ross: yes but wer at 5 $ under spot
[2017-02-22 19:54:45] BitMEX_Sam : Multiple accounts is fine, self-referring is not
[2017-02-22 19:54:55] sleger : ^very clear
[2017-02-22 19:55:16] Farzad2 : BitMEX_Sam: why do u change OKC too woodchipper ? :D
[2017-02-22 19:55:24] Tetsuo : shorts on FInex went down almost 50% in the last 6 days
[2017-02-22 19:55:27] Dynamix : dump it
[2017-02-22 19:55:29] Dynamix : to shitland
[2017-02-22 19:55:37] -_- : okc OKFC
[2017-02-22 19:55:39] -_- : OKC
[2017-02-22 19:55:47] spice : Dynamix: short?
[2017-02-22 19:55:49] bingbongfly : lots of people want funding
[2017-02-22 19:55:51] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, just use `OKC Intl`
[2017-02-22 19:55:55] Dynamix : Well, I'm in ;)
[2017-02-22 19:56:03] BitMEX_Sam : The price feed would take less space if you formatted it as a single msg
[2017-02-22 19:56:04] -_- : everyone shorting swap. join in!
[2017-02-22 19:56:18] BitMEX_Sam : also I've adjusted the styles somewhat so they're smaller, refresh to see them
[2017-02-22 19:56:41] Dynamix : Time to see drop to 1090 ;)
[2017-02-22 19:56:54] cryptokeeper : I will laugh if funding hits and it actually dumps
[2017-02-22 19:57:03] paper : damn, why is mex xbt/usd @ such a discount compared to stamp and finex today?
[2017-02-22 19:57:06] MrRGnome : BitMEX_Sam: Do you take any proactive measures against self referring like banning accounts or is it just something you are trying to discourage?
[2017-02-22 19:57:08] cryptokeeper : sorry in advance if that does happen and some of you are long
[2017-02-22 19:57:10] Farzad2 : BitMEX_Sam: I am sending prices seperately because sometimes one of them takes longer to acquire or times out
[2017-02-22 19:57:27] cryptobull : here comes funding dump
[2017-02-22 19:57:31] spice : What is the difference between cross and 1x?
[2017-02-22 19:57:33] BitMEX_Sam : MrRGnome: We don't discuss that for obvious reasons and reserve the right to disable any self-referring accts
[2017-02-22 19:57:50] BitMEX_Sam : Farzad2: Then just wait until then before posting
[2017-02-22 19:58:08] paper : this is shaping up to be uberbull day according to a lot of folks who would prefer another big dip. tonight could be the night!
[2017-02-22 19:58:10] jung1 : spice: cross is with all your position on exchange that you own. 1x is only with money that you boughts/sell contracts
[2017-02-22 19:58:12] sleger : or post in chinese trollbox
[2017-02-22 19:58:19] MrRGnome : BitMEX_Sam: Sure, just trying to get an idea of how seriously you take the issue.
[2017-02-22 19:58:26] Farzad2 : BitMEX_Sam: Users want instant prices, I guess this way it is better
[2017-02-22 19:58:40] BitMEX_Sam : Farzad2: It spams the box - please coalesce it into a single message.
[2017-02-22 19:59:10] wurstgelee : i agree with the spam
[2017-02-22 19:59:14] sleger : guys final warning, if you sell too much the swap I will have to buy it
[2017-02-22 19:59:15] wurstgelee : its too much
[2017-02-22 19:59:20] MrRGnome : I don't personally have a second account, but the way people talk in here I was maybe incorrectly believing self referral was the norm.
[2017-02-22 19:59:21] Farzad2 : BitMEX_Sam: OK, but if users complained why it doesnt work properly, it is on you :p
[2017-02-22 19:59:23] sleger : especially btcdjs abuses it
[2017-02-22 19:59:24] NukeLaloosh : BitMEX_Sam: when the webpage resets, is that equal the same time on the hour for your system?
[2017-02-22 19:59:35] m3s : here we go
[2017-02-22 19:59:39] BitMEX_Sam : NukeLaloosh: I'm not sure what you're asking
[2017-02-22 19:59:46] bingbongfly : no wait
[2017-02-22 19:59:49] Dynamix : Common boys you dont wanna long the top ;)
[2017-02-22 19:59:50] bingbongfly : funding
[2017-02-22 19:59:55] Shoba : need more index exchanges, way too abusable right now
[2017-02-22 19:59:56] wurstgelee : 1115...lol.. oO
[2017-02-22 20:00:04] paper : i was gonna unload maybe 3% in 1040 area but no use now, considering stamp will be far above that area by the time our prices even get in that region
[2017-02-22 20:00:07] Tetsuo : `KA-CHING`
[2017-02-22 20:00:13] rapidtrades : yeeeees
[2017-02-22 20:00:16] ross : lol wtf
[2017-02-22 20:00:16] bingbongfly : hahhaha now ppl get it
[2017-02-22 20:00:18] rapidgains : rip fomo shorts
[2017-02-22 20:00:20] sleger : XBTUSD 30000 7499 0 1118.11 got it !
[2017-02-22 20:00:20] Dynamix : ?
[2017-02-22 20:00:22] rapidgains : lmao
[2017-02-22 20:00:22] cryptokeeper : lol
[2017-02-22 20:00:31] Farzad2 : It was because of funding, lol
[2017-02-22 20:00:34] cryptokeeper : everybody went for funding and then
[2017-02-22 20:00:36] cryptokeeper : took a loss
[2017-02-22 20:00:38] ross : im ok with this
[2017-02-22 20:00:38] Dynamix : Dumping time
[2017-02-22 20:00:41] cryptokeeper : ripped up the book
[2017-02-22 20:00:45] cryptokeeper : IDIOTS
[2017-02-22 20:00:48] Shoba : well, the price moved roughly the right amount
[2017-02-22 20:01:02] cryptokeeper : I got a massive pay day
[2017-02-22 20:01:05] cryptokeeper : thanks
[2017-02-22 20:01:13] ross : well now im sitting on a 0.7 fee
[2017-02-22 20:01:19] ross : delightful
[2017-02-22 20:01:21] rapidtrades : PAYDAY
[2017-02-22 20:01:27] sleger : 1.5btc funding not bad
[2017-02-22 20:01:32] m3s : ross: close your long
[2017-02-22 20:01:34] sleger : pays for dinner
[2017-02-22 20:01:41] cryptobull : that was fun... let's do it again in 8hrs :D
[2017-02-22 20:01:52] NeoXx : what's the rule, when do shorts pay the longs and vice versa?
[2017-02-22 20:01:53] Dynamix : wtf lol
[2017-02-22 20:01:56] Dynamix : common drop must be
[2017-02-22 20:01:57] Dynamix : on bfx
[2017-02-22 20:01:58] Dynamix : /wall
[2017-02-22 20:01:59] trollbot : ``` BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1139.17 => [955 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1169.21 Bids: 1108.00 => [589 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1138.87```
[2017-02-22 20:01:59] trollbot : ``` BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1134.0 => [3427 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1164.0 Bids: 1103.4 => [1239 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1133.8```
[2017-02-22 20:02:09] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-02-22 20:02:10] trollbot : ``` Bitstamp: 1138.87 (-0.05%)```
[2017-02-22 20:02:10] trollbot : ``` Bitfinex: 1133.9 (0%)```
[2017-02-22 20:02:10] trollbot : ``` Kraken: 1135 (0.09%)```
[2017-02-22 20:02:10] trollbot : ``` GDAX: 1135.99 (0.09%)```
[2017-02-22 20:02:10] trollbot : ``` itBit: 1135.13 (-0.05%)```
[2017-02-22 20:02:10] trollbot : ``` OKCoin: 1106.17 (-0.23%)```
[2017-02-22 20:02:35] cryptokeeper : cryptobull: :)
[2017-02-22 20:02:35] BTCDJS : ETH and xmr are the same price
[2017-02-22 20:02:53] rapidgains : fomo shorts buying back at higher prices
[2017-02-22 20:02:57] rapidgains : you cant beat the market makers lmao
[2017-02-22 20:03:22] rapidtrades : china $40 below and not closing the gap
[2017-02-22 20:03:22] cryptokeeper : stamp tried to go for it on the hourly
[2017-02-22 20:03:25] cryptokeeper : its getting mashed down
[2017-02-22 20:04:17] cryptokeeper : lunch time. cheers guys!
[2017-02-22 20:04:17] paper : since i'm new to this exchange, can someone link me to a page that explains the frenzy that just happened? as in, i'm assuming for a small window of time, fees were reduced for longers and or shorters (or something along those lines)?
[2017-02-22 20:04:29] rapidgains : https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#funding
[2017-02-22 20:04:43] ross : ^^ noone likes to read more than 5 words
[2017-02-22 20:04:57] rapidgains : have fun getting rekt then
[2017-02-22 20:04:59] rapidtrades : ^ this guy will go far
[2017-02-22 20:05:06] rapidtrades : FRIENDLY FIRE
[2017-02-22 20:05:11] paper : thanks. would that really be the primary reason why the price shot up though? and not the fact that we were trailing stamp/finex by like 20$, making it an obvious buy regardless?
[2017-02-22 20:05:11] rapidtrades : i meant ross
[2017-02-22 20:05:15] rapidgains : lol
[2017-02-22 20:05:47] -_- : never pays to short for funding only to close at a big loss