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BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
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[2017-02-22 18:07:07] ross : oh shit
[2017-02-22 18:07:10] ross : look stamp
[2017-02-22 18:07:16] i3 : MikeHunt: & @ross agreed
[2017-02-22 18:07:16] hmmm : this is bs
[2017-02-22 18:07:19] -_- : Okc new high
[2017-02-22 18:07:20] ross : 1142
[2017-02-22 18:07:22] sleger : my trading has been exemplary the past 2 months @rapidtrades
[2017-02-22 18:07:25] i3 : but OKC will lead this
[2017-02-22 18:07:32] jung1 : BTCDJS: yeah its crazy to short it
[2017-02-22 18:07:32] i3 : have a good night guys cheers
[2017-02-22 18:07:33] hmmm : time for dump to 900
[2017-02-22 18:08:02] ross : 1030 in a sec
[2017-02-22 18:08:14] BTCDJS : i cant get my long order filled on 1broker :(
[2017-02-22 18:08:51] m3s : BTCDJS: why not
[2017-02-22 18:08:57] rapidtrades : exemplary my ass, u just got lucky okc didn't go down on ur watch
[2017-02-22 18:09:07] cryptobull : ross: 1030?? I want whatever drugs ur on
[2017-02-22 18:09:19] sleger : rapidtrades: i was long quaterlies here too
[2017-02-22 18:09:21] BTCDJS : m3s: all their funds are allocated to other positions. need a bear to die.
[2017-02-22 18:09:27] ross : cryptobull: maybe not a sec, but soon we will hit it
[2017-02-22 18:09:53] cryptobull : ross: $100 down from here?
[2017-02-22 18:09:56] m3s : BTCDJS: interesting. where can I read about how they work ?
[2017-02-22 18:10:10] ross : cryptobull: woah wait
[2017-02-22 18:10:14] BTCDJS : m3s: just create an account and start exploring
[2017-02-22 18:10:14] ross : cryptobull: mean 1130
[2017-02-22 18:10:19] ross : oops
[2017-02-22 18:10:33] cryptobull : ross: lol. I'm down for that
[2017-02-22 18:10:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECH17`: sell 20 @ 0.023836
[2017-02-22 18:10:53] hmmm : why would you long zec
[2017-02-22 18:10:58] aroraprav : stamp 1140
[2017-02-22 18:11:13] n00bie : headed for 1114, watch
[2017-02-22 18:11:17] Shaman : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 18:11:20] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 20.53/79.47 Daily: 43.26/56.74 Weekly: 43.18/56.82 Monthly: 47.39/52.61
[2017-02-22 18:11:20] c.l : /price
[2017-02-22 18:11:20] trollbot : Bitstamp: 1139.23 (0.33%)
[2017-02-22 18:11:20] trollbot : GDAX: 1138.57 (0.6%)
[2017-02-22 18:11:20] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1133.5 (0.13%)
[2017-02-22 18:11:21] trollbot : itBit: 1136.98 (0.4%)
[2017-02-22 18:11:21] trollbot : Kraken: 1138.67 (0.44%)
[2017-02-22 18:11:21] trollbot : OKCoin: 1111.53 (0.28%)
[2017-02-22 18:11:26] sleger : coinbase 1139 !
[2017-02-22 18:11:35] sleger : real peple buying
[2017-02-22 18:11:38] hmmm : 1136
[2017-02-22 18:11:38] rapidgains : anybody still bear?
[2017-02-22 18:11:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 1124.97
[2017-02-22 18:11:56] cryptobull : lol
[2017-02-22 18:12:04] hmmm : and so it begins
[2017-02-22 18:12:08] ross : panic sell
[2017-02-22 18:12:09] m3s : double top, back to bear mode 500$
[2017-02-22 18:12:10] ross : btc dead
[2017-02-22 18:12:23] hmmm : ddouble top
[2017-02-22 18:12:28] cryptobull : rip btc... back to $200
[2017-02-22 18:12:32] rapidtrades : we're near the top, fx traders are throwing out charts of bitcoin
[2017-02-22 18:12:33] thomaskikansha : fomo short lol
[2017-02-22 18:12:34] hmmm : rip
[2017-02-22 18:12:54] rapidtrades : if they tart trading it, we're in peak bubble mode
[2017-02-22 18:13:05] c.l : whats up lol
[2017-02-22 18:13:11] sleger : the price
[2017-02-22 18:13:25] ross : buy the dip
[2017-02-22 18:13:29] amirmass : when we longing it
[2017-02-22 18:13:30] amirmass : 1100?
[2017-02-22 18:13:38] amirmass : 1096??
[2017-02-22 18:13:58] sleger : you sold your children ?
[2017-02-22 18:14:03] sleger : to avoid having to feed them ?
[2017-02-22 18:14:16] ross : last chance to buy cheap coins
[2017-02-22 18:14:27] Faszakasza : short gamble here with 50x, 10 BTC? it has to come down, right?
[2017-02-22 18:14:37] cryptobull : amirmass: putting buy order at $200
[2017-02-22 18:14:40] hmmm : 90k tx backlog... doesn't matter... $.50 tx fees too cheap
[2017-02-22 18:14:46] amirmass : cryptobull: lmfao
[2017-02-22 18:15:07] cryptobull : amirmass: hmm too high?
[2017-02-22 18:15:21] ross : cryptobull: here it comes
[2017-02-22 18:16:11] BTCDJS : Does it work if I click the "create order" button repeatedly? on 1broker "All our funds are used to hedge against existing positions"
[2017-02-22 18:18:27] c.l : /price
[2017-02-22 18:18:28] trollbot : Bitstamp: 1138.95 (13.9%)
[2017-02-22 18:18:28] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1132.9 (13.29%)
[2017-02-22 18:18:28] trollbot : itBit: 1133.58 (13.36%)
[2017-02-22 18:18:28] trollbot : GDAX: 1135.53 (13.55%)
[2017-02-22 18:18:28] trollbot : Kraken: 1136.61 (13.66%)
[2017-02-22 18:18:29] trollbot : OKCoin: 1108.74 (10.87%)
[2017-02-22 18:20:28] ross : /wall
[2017-02-22 18:20:29] trollbot : BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1138.35 => [967 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1169.00 Bids: 1107.41 => [781 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1137.98
[2017-02-22 18:20:29] trollbot : BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1133.6 => [3419 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1164.0 Bids: 1103.4 => [1254 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1133.5
[2017-02-22 18:20:42] BTCDJS : No it does not. Every man and his dog is LONG
[2017-02-22 18:20:49] ross : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 18:20:52] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 30.62/69.38 Daily: 43.36/56.64 Weekly: 43.26/56.74 Monthly: 47.39/52.61
[2017-02-22 18:21:00] ross : says 30% short
[2017-02-22 18:21:01] ross : y u lie
[2017-02-22 18:21:18] BTCDJS : ross: those are women
[2017-02-22 18:21:25] cryptobull : lol
[2017-02-22 18:21:32] JT : and cats
[2017-02-22 18:21:37] BTCDJS : yup
[2017-02-22 18:21:45] BTCDJS : and poodles
[2017-02-22 18:21:54] ross : can we just jump to 1140
[2017-02-22 18:21:54] n00bie : should i close my short then?
[2017-02-22 18:22:03] ross : so i can close my long and go to bed
[2017-02-22 18:22:09] cryptokeeper : Big big payday for shorts this round
[2017-02-22 18:22:10] aeos : n00bie: if you are a noobie yes
[2017-02-22 18:22:15] cryptokeeper : Crazy high
[2017-02-22 18:22:22] BTCDJS : n00bie: you got a vagina?
[2017-02-22 18:22:32] ross : /joke
[2017-02-22 18:22:35] y1uy : any bears here?
[2017-02-22 18:22:39] trollbot : How do you tell if somebody is a karma whore? EDIT: Wow I didn't expect this to become so popular!
[2017-02-22 18:22:58] n00bie : does trollbot scrape reddit for jokes?
[2017-02-22 18:23:04] ross : yes
[2017-02-22 18:23:25] y1uy : am i the only bear?
[2017-02-22 18:23:35] BTCDJS : somebody send 1broker more money so I can open a long
[2017-02-22 18:23:37] aeos : y1uy: i ony short for funding atm
[2017-02-22 18:23:37] n00bie : y1uy: no
[2017-02-22 18:23:50] cryptokeeper : I'm short for funding
[2017-02-22 18:23:55] cryptokeeper : Got to be crazy not to be.
[2017-02-22 18:24:06] y1uy : .4% nice one :d
[2017-02-22 18:24:09] cryptokeeper : That is big.
[2017-02-22 18:24:15] anonymous123421 : bigly
[2017-02-22 18:24:22] BTCDJS : HUGE
[2017-02-22 18:24:24] sleger : its only 4$ of price though
[2017-02-22 18:24:28] sleger : small
[2017-02-22 18:24:28] anonymous123421 : YUGE
[2017-02-22 18:24:29] hmmm : "only"
[2017-02-22 18:24:50] cryptokeeper : Yuuuuuuge
[2017-02-22 18:24:51] Farzad2 : hey boys :D
[2017-02-22 18:25:02] anonymous123421 : The sell wall just got 10 dollars higher!
[2017-02-22 18:25:04] Farzad2 : now you are using my boy liquidity in the market
[2017-02-22 18:25:10] Farzad2 : bot *
[2017-02-22 18:25:11] n00bie : did you just assume our genders?
[2017-02-22 18:25:32] anonymous123421 : Farzad2: How's your profit going?
[2017-02-22 18:25:51] Farzad2 : anonymous123421: well, I am losing money ! lol
[2017-02-22 18:26:01] anonymous123421 : haha nice
[2017-02-22 18:26:07] Farzad2 : it is going into your pocket
[2017-02-22 18:26:31] rapidtrades : all these gains will be gone in 1-2 days just like last time
[2017-02-22 18:26:33] anonymous123421 : just wait for some idiot to put in a huge market order and then you'll make some real money
[2017-02-22 18:26:44] Faszakasza : please explain this funding-hunting to me... if I go short before the funding round then I get payed, thats clear. so my risk is that the price moves more than what I get on funding? seems like gambling to me right now
[2017-02-22 18:27:04] sleger : Faszakasza: correct
[2017-02-22 18:27:13] jung1 : funding-hunting
[2017-02-22 18:27:14] hmmm : yeah well there is no downside risk either
[2017-02-22 18:27:14] jung1 : nice term
[2017-02-22 18:27:29] hmmm : in terms of $ which are pretty stable
[2017-02-22 18:27:38] rapidtrades : https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/gift-card-giants-gyft-and-egifter-force-wallets-for-bitcoin-payments/
[2017-02-22 18:27:41] thomaskikansha : $4/btc on funding
[2017-02-22 18:27:49] rapidtrades : ^part of reason why 'coinbase users are growing'
[2017-02-22 18:27:52] sleger : hmmm: yes there is, premium can vary
[2017-02-22 18:28:03] rapidtrades : from one bucket to another, no real growth there
[2017-02-22 18:28:51] hmmm : yeah but you can see the premium and get out if its negative
[2017-02-22 18:29:15] sleger : hmmm: if it changes and you see it its too late
[2017-02-22 18:30:14] anonymous123421 : short term trades based on funding are dumb, but you can make money on it long term
[2017-02-22 18:30:30] j8 : all it would take is okc catching up to bitstamp to raise the index $15
[2017-02-22 18:30:47] sleger : wouldnt take many coins either
[2017-02-22 18:30:54] j8 : nope
[2017-02-22 18:30:59] sleger : but there was no borrow $ earlier when i checked
[2017-02-22 18:31:04] sleger : i was actually going to bring it up
[2017-02-22 18:31:56] j8 : and no one wants to send $ there
[2017-02-22 18:32:48] sleger : it just let me borrow
[2017-02-22 18:32:52] sleger : 2500$.... :(
[2017-02-22 18:33:10] thomaskikansha : we got an ATH for btce
[2017-02-22 18:34:25] m3s : how can I lend my coins on here?
[2017-02-22 18:34:56] j8 : m3s: send them to one of us trolls and hope that we send them back
[2017-02-22 18:34:58] sleger : send them to this address :
[2017-02-22 18:35:01] sleger : hold on
[2017-02-22 18:35:11] Shaman : so helpful
[2017-02-22 18:35:11] j8 : ^ sleger is most trustworthy
[2017-02-22 18:35:25] m3s : ok i will send it to your address
[2017-02-22 18:35:33] m3s : srs tho
[2017-02-22 18:36:06] sleger : m3s: has to be 10+btc though, my address doesnt accept less
[2017-02-22 18:36:26] BTCDJS : m3s: you cant lend here
[2017-02-22 18:36:34] BTCDJS : Ive already asked
[2017-02-22 18:36:46] rapidtrades : lot of coinbase growth could be ppl saving on fees
[2017-02-22 18:36:59] anonymous123421 : Did they add a filter for addresses?
[2017-02-22 18:36:59] sleger : no its just new money flowing in
[2017-02-22 18:37:03] rapidtrades : to avoid rapey $0.5 per transfer etc
[2017-02-22 18:37:05] sleger : smart people dont want to miss on the big rise
[2017-02-22 18:37:24] rapidtrades : no offense but ur acting like an idiot
[2017-02-22 18:37:38] m3s : BTCDJS: thanks
[2017-02-22 18:37:41] rapidtrades : hope this rally ends soon so we'll get back the old sleger
[2017-02-22 18:37:53] sleger : im almost done closing my long
[2017-02-22 18:37:58] sleger : just a little bit more
[2017-02-22 18:38:38] MikeHunt : sledger closing longs = trouble ahead
[2017-02-22 18:38:51] rapidtrades : how can i set an alert on twitter for every mention of bitcoinetf
[2017-02-22 18:38:54] BTCDJS : sleger: Just a little bit more to 1400
[2017-02-22 18:39:02] rapidtrades : so it becomes a part of my followed list
[2017-02-22 18:39:06] Wings : /price
[2017-02-22 18:39:07] trollbot : Bitstamp: 1134.79 (-0.37%)
[2017-02-22 18:39:07] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1132.4 (-0.04%)
[2017-02-22 18:39:07] trollbot : GDAX: 1135.7 (0.01%)
[2017-02-22 18:39:07] trollbot : itBit: 1134.38 (0.07%)
[2017-02-22 18:39:07] trollbot : Kraken: 1135 (-0.14%)
[2017-02-22 18:39:07] trollbot : OKCoin: 1108.73 (0%)
[2017-02-22 18:40:45] anonymous123421 : ETF is going to be interesting, no matter if it gets denied or approved
[2017-02-22 18:41:14] jung1 : all this pump is because of ETF
[2017-02-22 18:41:34] ross : and the nasa pluto landing
[2017-02-22 18:42:17] jung1 : but best thing is that if it will be denied, possible drop is about 40% but if it will be accept there is now limit
[2017-02-22 18:42:37] sleger : 40% you're insane
[2017-02-22 18:42:43] jung1 : and there is winklevoss and solidx ETF
[2017-02-22 18:42:46] -_- : March premium just dropped $14
[2017-02-22 18:42:48] jung1 : so 2 chances
[2017-02-22 18:44:23] rapidtrades : 2 chances with 0% are still 0%
[2017-02-22 18:44:33] jung1 : rekt comming
[2017-02-22 18:44:41] cryptokeeper : payday = sweetness
[2017-02-22 18:44:42] rapidtrades : and its only ONE as it requires a RULE ChANGE
[2017-02-22 18:44:51] rapidtrades : cos guess what, bitcoin is NOT a commodity
[2017-02-22 18:45:15] sleger : it is
[2017-02-22 18:45:19] j8 : bitcoin is bitcoin
[2017-02-22 18:45:25] sleger : even for the IRS it is a property which is almost like a commodity
[2017-02-22 18:45:29] rapidtrades : any bitcoin news account
[2017-02-22 18:45:38] sleger : it is a like a chair basically, or a bottle of wine
[2017-02-22 18:45:52] rapidtrades : just close ur long so u can shut up
[2017-02-22 18:46:06] rapidtrades : talking ur book over here
[2017-02-22 18:46:15] sleger : yeah like you aint
[2017-02-22 18:46:24] sleger : "talking ur book over here" <= that guy....
[2017-02-22 18:47:33] j8 : other commodities have elasticity in supply and demand. bitcoin just has speculators
[2017-02-22 18:48:00] rapidtrades : i couldn't care less, i don't have ur ego to think that ppl will trade on what i say
[2017-02-22 18:48:38] sleger : i dont think that
[2017-02-22 18:48:46] anonymous123421 : Bitcoin has utility for transferring wealth, but it's true that most "traders" and "investors" are just speculators
[2017-02-22 18:49:25] j8 : other commodities are scientifically defined, bitcoin can become something else just because the community decided
[2017-02-22 18:50:06] anonymous123421 : j8: very true
[2017-02-22 18:50:27] j8 : that's the problem with the etf, it's not well defined what it's even tracking
[2017-02-22 18:51:01] j8 : it could end up tracking an alt-coin by accident, while bitcoin goes on
[2017-02-22 18:51:50] anonymous123421 : Yeah the hard fork definition is worrisome
[2017-02-22 18:52:28] rapidtrades : not rly, that's the best solution after a HF
[2017-02-22 18:52:50] j8 : how so
[2017-02-22 18:52:56] sleger : they should hard fork the etf too
[2017-02-22 18:53:00] rapidtrades : when u do an ETF u kinda have to set these rules upfront so investors know what theyre getting
[2017-02-22 18:53:00] sleger : you end up owning 2 etfs
[2017-02-22 18:53:09] sleger : moar bitcoin etfs is moar better for price
[2017-02-22 18:53:23] rapidtrades : j8: well what do u suggest instead?
[2017-02-22 18:53:25] sleger : to the squared moon
[2017-02-22 18:54:59] j8 : i don't know the entire answer but from what they've proposed, it's not ready for primetime
[2017-02-22 18:55:46] rapidtrades : agree but that's part of bitcoin, not their ETF
[2017-02-22 18:55:52] rapidtrades : cos HF is a possibilty
[2017-02-22 18:56:36] j8 : if a minority fork has value, then the holdings of the ETF include the value of both
[2017-02-22 18:57:00] j8 : investors in the ETF should get the benefit of that
[2017-02-22 18:57:17] water : How can I short steem?
[2017-02-22 18:57:36] water : (...that is not a dumb joke about my username)
[2017-02-22 18:58:14] Tetsuo : keep it below 100 ° C
[2017-02-22 18:58:35] BTCDJS : Tetsuo: bellow 0 is enought
[2017-02-22 18:58:41] water : :)
[2017-02-22 18:58:46] Tetsuo : true for long term holders
[2017-02-22 18:59:13] j8 : if there was a fork where both chains continued, it might take some time for markets, miners and users to decide what is "bitcoin"
[2017-02-22 18:59:38] BTCDJS : j8: in the mean time price goes to 400
[2017-02-22 18:59:50] j8 : allowing the ETF managers to arbitrarily decide on one chain is reckless
[2017-02-22 19:00:25] j8 : sure in that scenario you want to sell both @BTCDJS
[2017-02-22 19:00:53] Tetsuo : 440BTC sell wall @BTC-E
[2017-02-22 19:01:05] wurstgelee : j8: yep. what if they fork btc themselves, lower the difficulty of their fork via update and therefore have the longer chain? ;)
[2017-02-22 19:01:05] anonymous123421 : j8: I don't disagree, but what is the alternative? They do stipulate that the fork with more hashing power in the first 48 hours after a fork is the one they use
[2017-02-22 19:01:28] wurstgelee : oh no, was hasing power related
[2017-02-22 19:01:28] wurstgelee : nvm
[2017-02-22 19:01:40] wurstgelee : 48h is too short tho
[2017-02-22 19:01:41] j8 : they give that criterion, and they also give a way out if they decide it's not appropriate
[2017-02-22 19:01:43] wurstgelee : thats the problem
[2017-02-22 19:01:56] NukeLaloosh : j8: why wouldn't the etf value be the combination of both coins?
[2017-02-22 19:01:59] j8 : the mining criterion can easily be gamed by miners
[2017-02-22 19:02:21] j8 : NukeLaloosh: i say it should be, but that's not what the proposal says
[2017-02-22 19:02:41] wurstgelee : yeah, i am not getting that etiher
[2017-02-22 19:02:51] wurstgelee : would make way more sense
[2017-02-22 19:03:01] j8 : this means that if the market perceives a fork as a risk, the ETF should trade at a discount to actual coins
[2017-02-22 19:03:33] j8 : which ruins the point anyway
[2017-02-22 19:03:53] golem2 : could you tell me why I can not login via chrome ?
[2017-02-22 19:04:02] wurstgelee : since etf would have coins on both chains ofc.... otherwise its a little like eth trading exchanges not giving the respective etc balance to their users
[2017-02-22 19:04:08] sleger : golem2: let me try whats your password ?
[2017-02-22 19:04:17] golem2 : do you have same problem when you are log in on different computer ?
[2017-02-22 19:04:32] ross : frodo69
[2017-02-22 19:05:06] sleger : ross: there is nothing to steal in your account
[2017-02-22 19:05:26] ross : sleger: theres your mothers nudes
[2017-02-22 19:05:30] j8 : wurstgelee: yes and it could even be worse, the system could be gamed so that they ONLY give etc
[2017-02-22 19:05:51] sleger : ross: you are 15 years old ?
[2017-02-22 19:06:00] wurstgelee : j8: yep
[2017-02-22 19:06:01] ross : close to it
[2017-02-22 19:06:19] ross : richest 15yr old youll know
[2017-02-22 19:06:45] wurstgelee : but thee gaming part lleft aside: how would they possible justify to only credit 1 chains' balance to their holders?
[2017-02-22 19:06:48] sleger : being born is a rich family is not attributable to any real success
[2017-02-22 19:06:49] wurstgelee : thats doesnt make any sense
[2017-02-22 19:07:45] rapidtrades : RED ALERT
[2017-02-22 19:07:51] rapidtrades : MAX FUNDING INCOMING
[2017-02-22 19:07:53] sleger : rapidtrades: you got your period ?
[2017-02-22 19:08:12] rapidtrades : no but ur gf did
[2017-02-22 19:08:14] sleger : (i typed that just after red alert)
[2017-02-22 19:08:18] j8 : wurstgelee: justified by the terms of the ETF. crazy terms that shouldn't be approved
[2017-02-22 19:08:24] sleger : rapidtrades: happens to her once a month yes
[2017-02-22 19:08:33] MrRGnome : sleger: Do you know a lot of women who scream "RED ALERT MAX FUNDING INCOMING" on their period?
[2017-02-22 19:08:36] wurstgelee : j8: agreed
[2017-02-22 19:08:47] sleger : MrRGnome: learn to read " sleger: (i typed that just after red alert)"
[2017-02-22 19:08:50] rapidtrades : sleger: its good that she is still fertile
[2017-02-22 19:09:17] Tetsuo : kids :-(
[2017-02-22 19:09:21] MrRGnome : sleger: So you failed to read, yet you're calling me on failing to read???
[2017-02-22 19:09:33] MrRGnome : sleger: Someone sure is ont heir period alright
[2017-02-22 19:09:41] sleger : MrRGnome: no, i pressed enter as he added the second sentence dummy
[2017-02-22 19:10:04] rapidtrades : most ppl know not to interrupt my flow
[2017-02-22 19:10:14] rapidtrades : i rarely finish after 1 sentence
[2017-02-22 19:11:29] rapidtrades : smth is gonna happen soon...my bet is on china
[2017-02-22 19:11:53] sleger : who's gonna get the biggest funding ?
[2017-02-22 19:12:09] rapidtrades : micmix?
[2017-02-22 19:12:17] sleger : why ?
[2017-02-22 19:12:23] sleger : its not based on volume
[2017-02-22 19:12:28] rapidtrades : cos he's loaded
[2017-02-22 19:12:31] j8 : micmix said he pays funding more often than not
[2017-02-22 19:12:32] Shaman : depends who is the shortest
[2017-02-22 19:12:44] sleger : Shaman: that was my point, thanks genius
[2017-02-22 19:12:51] j8 : because he trades it more efficiently than traders
[2017-02-22 19:12:52] Shaman : yw+
[2017-02-22 19:12:53] ThatCEOGuy : I'm back up to -90%, dont feel to good
[2017-02-22 19:13:10] sleger : I reduced my short on swap quite a lot so might not be me :( XBTUSD -452500 403.0553 XBT
[2017-02-22 19:13:17] rapidtrades : ThatCEOGuy: didn't u cut ur size?
[2017-02-22 19:13:43] ThatCEOGuy : rapidtrades: Should I have? Everyone told me to hold untol 1080
[2017-02-22 19:13:50] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: did you not sell a third as price went down?
[2017-02-22 19:14:02] ThatCEOGuy : ...
[2017-02-22 19:14:06] etoque : ThatCEOGuy: lol
[2017-02-22 19:14:10] rapidtrades : if that's ur whole risk capital, I told u to cut ur size
[2017-02-22 19:14:17] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: no we told you to sell some
[2017-02-22 19:14:26] cryptokeeper : CEO guy is getting massive pay day
[2017-02-22 19:14:29] rapidgains : stop listening to trollbox
[2017-02-22 19:14:34] cryptokeeper : do the numbers on it.... what u gonna get? 1-2btc?
[2017-02-22 19:14:37] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: I said use limit orders not market. Remeber?
[2017-02-22 19:14:52] rapidtrades : rapidgains: what do u mean stop listening....if he's trading too big he should listen
[2017-02-22 19:14:58] cryptokeeper : BTCDJS: doesnt matter.... same fees.... minus maker/taker and hidden orders offer a rebate
[2017-02-22 19:15:07] rapidgains : lol
[2017-02-22 19:15:23] cryptokeeper : market and limit = same same
[2017-02-22 19:15:39] cryptokeeper : one just goes on the books VS ripping the order book in real time
[2017-02-22 19:15:50] j8 : same fees, except for the fees
[2017-02-22 19:16:05] cryptokeeper : maker/taker and hidden orders
[2017-02-22 19:16:38] cryptokeeper : obv... for limit you will maximize or minimize on your PNL
[2017-02-22 19:16:42] cryptokeeper : but it may skip
[2017-02-22 19:16:59] cryptokeeper : bitflyer tryin' to dump
[2017-02-22 19:17:08] BTCDJS : cryptokeeper: thing is this is his very first trade. He doesnt know what hes doing or what you are talking about. He went all in 10BTC short. His LIQ is 1200
[2017-02-22 19:17:21] cryptokeeper : I know....
[2017-02-22 19:17:23] rapidgains : what
[2017-02-22 19:17:26] rapidgains : r for real
[2017-02-22 19:17:26] cryptokeeper : fair enough... and good on you for helping him
[2017-02-22 19:17:27] rapidtrades : fees and premiums are getting high now, longs have to either ppush for the finish line or surrender here
[2017-02-22 19:17:43] cryptokeeper : BTCDJS
[2017-02-22 19:18:04] cryptokeeper : Yeah I dont see this push happening... people losing confidence in BFX going down like thrice
[2017-02-22 19:18:11] cryptokeeper : getting DDoSed
[2017-02-22 19:18:16] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: Just HODL and accept that you may lose it.
[2017-02-22 19:18:21] alejandromasari : short xbth17 @1149 comeon
[2017-02-22 19:18:40] cryptokeeper : nah
[2017-02-22 19:18:57] sleger : change your story bro "AlejandroMasari sold some $BTCUSD xbth17 at 1100 good day today"
[2017-02-22 19:19:01] rapidgains : da phuq
[2017-02-22 19:19:11] ThruTheFloor : Are we hitting ATH high today or not?
[2017-02-22 19:19:14] ross : lol someone just bought 150 btc
[2017-02-22 19:19:23] ross : another another 50
[2017-02-22 19:19:23] anonymous123421 : sleger: lol
[2017-02-22 19:19:32] rapidtrades : alejandromasari: lol busted
[2017-02-22 19:19:44] sleger : also https://twitter.com/alejandrodinero/
[2017-02-22 19:19:44] alejandromasari : rapidtrades: please short
[2017-02-22 19:19:46] rapidtrades : too bad this isn't twitter and u can delete it
[2017-02-22 19:20:05] rapidtrades : alejandromasari: <<< scammer
[2017-02-22 19:20:05] alejandromasari : fill the remainder of my order.
[2017-02-22 19:20:44] cryptokeeper : ross: lol
[2017-02-22 19:20:46] rapidgains : how were you not filled at 1100?
[2017-02-22 19:21:10] rapidtrades : he doesn't trade, that's how
[2017-02-22 19:22:17] rapidgains : there should be a required trade volume to speak in this chat
[2017-02-22 19:22:25] sleger : +10
[2017-02-22 19:22:34] reyno : what is the ATH again?
[2017-02-22 19:22:42] anonymous123421 : rapidgains: What about people who hold positions?
[2017-02-22 19:22:51] BTCDJS : Let me try to wrap my head around this. Dinero is short. But he wants rapid to short so he can fill dineros order? Am I missing something. that doesnt make sense
[2017-02-22 19:23:24] rapidgains : idk man, just need something
[2017-02-22 19:23:31] sleger : yes you are missing the fact that you're talking about someone who doesnt know what he is saying
[2017-02-22 19:23:43] BTCDJS : Oh
[2017-02-22 19:23:50] BTCDJS : but hes wall street
[2017-02-22 19:23:51] j8 : he's here to sell subscriptions isn't he?
[2017-02-22 19:24:05] anonymous123421 : That's hilarious
[2017-02-22 19:24:08] Wings : /price
[2017-02-22 19:24:09] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1134.0 (0.14%)
[2017-02-22 19:24:09] trollbot : itBit: 1135.21 (0.07%)
[2017-02-22 19:24:09] trollbot : GDAX: 1137.49 (0.16%)
[2017-02-22 19:24:09] trollbot : Kraken: 1135 (0%)
[2017-02-22 19:24:10] laisee : seems tote legit
[2017-02-22 19:24:10] trollbot : OKCoin: 1108.76 (0%)
[2017-02-22 19:24:10] trollbot : Bitstamp: 1137.32 (0.22%)
[2017-02-22 19:24:26] sleger : yes he has a real time news subscription service with only 6 hours delays
[2017-02-22 19:24:40] Wings : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 19:24:42] sumwen : i like how alejandro has a picture of Amr Diab, an egyptian singer, on his stocktwits profile
[2017-02-22 19:24:43] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 60.62/39.38 Daily: 43.42/56.58 Weekly: 43.3/56.7 Monthly: 47.4/52.6
[2017-02-22 19:24:49] sleger : also all the advice tweets on his history have been winning trades
[2017-02-22 19:24:50] BTCDJS : I see. And he makes people money
[2017-02-22 19:25:12] cryptokeeper : to be honest... i would be kind of pissed if i was in a perp long right now... and heavy
[2017-02-22 19:25:20] cryptokeeper : 40,000cont and up
[2017-02-22 19:25:36] j8 : that's why you trade the swap counter-trend
[2017-02-22 19:25:49] n00bie : what is a "perp" long?
[2017-02-22 19:25:50] cryptokeeper : the monthly though when do profits realize
[2017-02-22 19:25:56] sleger : its only a 4$ fee come on
[2017-02-22 19:25:56] cryptokeeper : and when can you withdraw those profits
[2017-02-22 19:26:08] cryptokeeper : does the Mar 31 need to settle first to withdraw the profits?
[2017-02-22 19:26:13] j8 : yup
[2017-02-22 19:26:20] j8 : except parts that you close
[2017-02-22 19:26:33] cryptokeeper : so you go long.... make .5btc
[2017-02-22 19:26:41] cryptokeeper : close off.... i want to withdraw the btc
[2017-02-22 19:26:48] sleger : yes because ADL and not socialize losses so you can
[2017-02-22 19:26:50] rapidtrades : lol only $4 fee
[2017-02-22 19:26:58] j8 : we've been asking for a way to use unrealized profits for a while, and they're "working on it"
[2017-02-22 19:27:06] sleger : rapidtrades: when the price goes up 10$ an hour its nothing
[2017-02-22 19:27:12] rapidtrades : yes that one sucks @j8
[2017-02-22 19:27:23] rapidtrades : sleger: pretty sure we were here 24 hours ago bra
[2017-02-22 19:27:24] j8 : you do get realised PNL immediately though
[2017-02-22 19:27:27] sleger : the way is to close and reopen (and pay fees)
[2017-02-22 19:28:08] cryptokeeper : close and reopen?
[2017-02-22 19:28:08] cryptokeeper : wtf?
[2017-02-22 19:28:09] anonymous123421 : "only 4$" goddamn guys do you know how much the rate adds up to if you annualize it?
[2017-02-22 19:28:15] j8 : rapidtrades: it does, but i can see how the other way could be abused with 100x
[2017-02-22 19:28:29] cryptokeeper : so I closed out on the Mar31..... .5btc... i want to withdraw it
[2017-02-22 19:28:38] cryptokeeper : am i waiting til the contract settles on mar 31?
[2017-02-22 19:28:50] cryptokeeper : or Friday
[2017-02-22 19:28:53] cryptokeeper : or that day
[2017-02-22 19:28:59] j8 : realised PNL is immediate
[2017-02-22 19:29:00] rapidtrades : anonymous123421: its only 410%, relax
[2017-02-22 19:29:18] cryptokeeper : so right when you close out at profit or loss... you can pull out all your btc
[2017-02-22 19:29:22] cryptokeeper : if you were in Mar 31
[2017-02-22 19:29:23] j8 : yes
[2017-02-22 19:29:26] cryptokeeper : same as perp?
[2017-02-22 19:29:31] j8 : yes
[2017-02-22 19:29:33] cryptokeeper : kk
[2017-02-22 19:29:35] cryptokeeper : i thought so.
[2017-02-22 19:29:44] cryptokeeper : wasnt 100%.... even the documentation doesnt state it clearly
[2017-02-22 19:30:19] rapidgains : a while back it depended on availability
[2017-02-22 19:30:23] rapidgains : not sure if thats the case now
[2017-02-22 19:30:31] rapidgains : they would unlock funds
[2017-02-22 19:30:54] j8 : nope because nothing is held for DPE, you always get realised PNL right away
[2017-02-22 19:31:07] alejandromasari : thanks for the fill at 1148.96
[2017-02-22 19:31:21] cryptokeeper : rapidgains: ah yes i remember that... that was a while ago though
[2017-02-22 19:31:29] mendax090 : /price
[2017-02-22 19:31:30] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1133.9 (-0.01%)
[2017-02-22 19:31:30] trollbot : Bitstamp: 1140.29 (0.26%)
[2017-02-22 19:31:30] trollbot : GDAX: 1136.34 (-0.1%)
[2017-02-22 19:31:31] trollbot : Kraken: 1133.69 (-0.12%)
[2017-02-22 19:31:31] trollbot : itBit: 1134.89 (-0.03%)
[2017-02-22 19:31:31] trollbot : OKCoin: 1108.76 (0%)
[2017-02-22 19:31:36] sleger : alejandromasari: you took your loss from 1100 short ?
[2017-02-22 19:31:39] BTCDJS : j8: whats the benefit of holding March till fruition? 2%
[2017-02-22 19:31:46] BTCDJS : ?
[2017-02-22 19:32:05] j8 : i don't understand
[2017-02-22 19:32:08] sleger : alejandromasari: there was NO trade at 1148.96 in recent trade history LIAR LIAR LIAR
[2017-02-22 19:32:13] Cryptonary : How much is the funding for Lets say 10.000 contracts?
[2017-02-22 19:32:27] Cryptonary : long
[2017-02-22 19:32:34] sleger : Cryptonary: 0.375%
[2017-02-22 19:32:49] rapidgains : Cryptonary: x5 the trades fees of a market order
[2017-02-22 19:32:59] sleger : "alejandromasari: thanks for the fill at 1148.96" <= why the need to lie ?
[2017-02-22 19:33:10] Cryptonary : how much Will that be
[2017-02-22 19:33:23] sleger : Cryptonary: do you have a calculator ?
[2017-02-22 19:33:26] sleger : use it
[2017-02-22 19:33:30] BTCDJS : j8: why does it expire in march? would holding a long all the way to march if price keeps rising be more rewarding? I heard something about 2%
[2017-02-22 19:34:55] j8 : BTCDJS: well the premium is a little over 2%.. that's basically what it costs you to long for 37 days. or what you are paid to short for 37 days
[2017-02-22 19:35:01] cryptokeeper : Cryptonary: pretty much for 100k contracts you will be paying .370btc
[2017-02-22 19:35:03] cryptokeeper : which is a LOT
[2017-02-22 19:35:12] cryptokeeper : 350-400 USD
[2017-02-22 19:35:26] rapidtrades : 375 usd
[2017-02-22 19:35:27] sleger : 375
[2017-02-22 19:35:39] sleger : precisely
[2017-02-22 19:35:42] cryptokeeper : yea
[2017-02-22 19:35:42] BTCDJS : j8: K got it
[2017-02-22 19:35:42] rapidgains : rekt
[2017-02-22 19:35:45] alejandromasari : sleger: you can shut your pvsy lips now and be quiet http://imgur.com/IELzCuT
[2017-02-22 19:35:46] sleger : rapidtrades: did you see alejandro new lie ?
[2017-02-22 19:35:52] cryptokeeper : super rekt on longs
[2017-02-22 19:36:07] cryptokeeper : that is big time shit..... for what? to keep your position open? no thanks
[2017-02-22 19:36:07] rapidtrades : sleger: yes, he lies all the time
[2017-02-22 19:36:09] sleger : alejandromasari: YUGE 5 btc position lol
[2017-02-22 19:36:15] Tetsuo : lol
[2017-02-22 19:36:37] sleger : alejandromasari: 1148.96 is your average entry not the price at which you got filled, unlike what you said
[2017-02-22 19:36:40] BTCDJS : Hes got a teeny weeny. He needs to boast and lie to make it appear bigger in his mind
[2017-02-22 19:36:49] rapidgains : thats a long
[2017-02-22 19:36:51] alejandromasari : sleger: I have bigger bids on low wicks
[2017-02-22 19:36:51] rapidgains : wut
[2017-02-22 19:36:59] j8 : BTCDJS: and you can only see that as a fixed rate if you hold until expiry, since the premium can swing between now and then
[2017-02-22 19:37:01] alejandromasari : size management is key
[2017-02-22 19:37:03] rapidgains : thought he shorted?
[2017-02-22 19:37:03] BTC-Noob : so the sec can drop a bombshell any moment, it doest necessarily have to be on 11-03, can be earlier as well
[2017-02-22 19:37:05] Tetsuo : alejandromasari: another 2000 contracts?
[2017-02-22 19:37:15] alejandromasari : 30,000
[2017-02-22 19:37:33] sleger : no you have about 6000 contracts
[2017-02-22 19:37:37] BTC-Noob : alejandromasari: how much leverage do u trade usually? more than 50x?
[2017-02-22 19:37:41] sleger : sorry to disappoint
[2017-02-22 19:37:43] BTCDJS : j8: K thanks
[2017-02-22 19:37:52] Tetsuo : sure he´s a pro, 50x is minuimun if you have 10/10 right
[2017-02-22 19:37:56] alejandromasari : BTC-Noob: max 5x
[2017-02-22 19:38:11] sleger : liq price 982.63 LIAR
[2017-02-22 19:38:25] BTCDJS : Ha Ha
[2017-02-22 19:38:33] sleger : this guy is awesome
[2017-02-22 19:38:45] Tetsuo : alejandromasari: PLZ STOP LYING
[2017-02-22 19:38:48] sleger : he hasnt said one true thing and provided everything to us to debunk his lies
[2017-02-22 19:39:02] BTCDJS : his penis is shrinking more and more after every comeback
[2017-02-22 19:40:05] BTCDJS : *poof* <= Now it just vanished
[2017-02-22 19:40:09] cryptokeeper : BTC-Noob: it wont be earlier
[2017-02-22 19:40:29] cryptokeeper : BTCDJS: doing too much coke? haha
[2017-02-22 19:40:45] BTC-Noob : cryptokeeper: really how can u be so sure?
[2017-02-22 19:40:58] cryptokeeper : RIP and moment of silence for dude that bought 100+ BTC on stamp at the daily local top.
[2017-02-22 19:41:18] cryptokeeper : its about to get turnt down for what
[2017-02-22 19:41:21] j8 : someone's gotta do it!
[2017-02-22 19:41:25] m3s : cryptokeeper: hes in it for the long haul
[2017-02-22 19:41:27] cryptokeeper : j8: very true
[2017-02-22 19:41:28] Farzad2 : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 19:41:30] trollbot : ```Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 59.57/40.43 Daily: 43.58/56.42 Weekly: 43.32/56.68 Monthly: 47.4/52.6```
[2017-02-22 19:41:33] BTC-Noob : cryptokeeper: it could be btc bought for the seed basket of one of the ETF'
[2017-02-22 19:41:41] jung1 : /wall
[2017-02-22 19:41:41] trollbot : BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1139.49 => [982 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1169.99 Bids: 1108.00 => [646 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1138.06
[2017-02-22 19:41:41] trollbot : BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1134.1 => [3406 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1164.3 Bids: 1103.4 => [1205 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1133.8
[2017-02-22 19:41:46] cryptokeeper : m3s: wrong way to do it. IMHO.
[2017-02-22 19:41:55] cryptokeeper : BTC-Noob: could be.... 99% chance it isnt
[2017-02-22 19:42:03] sumwen : 5x 6-fig contracts is chump change... why do you care about his statements
[2017-02-22 19:42:07] BTC-Noob : /wall
[2017-02-22 19:42:08] trollbot : BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1138.89 => [889 Ƀ] (-9.47%) <= 1169.00 Bids: 1108.00 => [557 Ƀ] (-13.78%) <= 1138.06
[2017-02-22 19:42:08] m3s : cryptokeeper: how would you ?
[2017-02-22 19:42:09] trollbot : BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1134.0 => [3421 Ƀ] (0.44%) <= 1164.0 Bids: 1103.4 => [1213 Ƀ] (0.66%) <= 1133.8
[2017-02-22 19:42:15] cryptokeeper : you dont just fat finger buy 100+ btc on market order on stamp
[2017-02-22 19:42:31] cryptokeeper : and say it is for ETF or long term