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BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
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[2017-02-22 14:34:29] Dynamix : `/price`
[2017-02-22 14:34:38] Dynamix : lel
[2017-02-22 14:34:47] Dynamix : Are we gonna go lower ?
[2017-02-22 14:35:09] Tetsuo : yes
[2017-02-22 14:36:22] bingbongfly : Dynamix: yes
[2017-02-22 14:36:25] bingbongfly : failed to make new highs
[2017-02-22 14:36:32] bingbongfly : Dunno why I got spooked and closed my short
[2017-02-22 14:36:34] Dynamix : good hehe
[2017-02-22 14:40:52] Dynamix : I wanna go long ona sure position
[2017-02-22 14:41:00] Dynamix : with 50k contracts all my account lol
[2017-02-22 14:41:01] Dynamix : 100x
[2017-02-22 14:41:44] thxforyourbtc! : im 100x long for breakout
[2017-02-22 14:41:53] Dynamix : thxforyourbtc!: huh ?
[2017-02-22 14:41:53] thxforyourbtc! : will sell after triple
[2017-02-22 14:42:07] Dynamix : thxforyourbtc!: breakout from where is your entry?
[2017-02-22 14:42:15] thxforyourbtc! : 1132
[2017-02-22 14:42:28] thxforyourbtc! : 1120 liq
[2017-02-22 14:42:58] thxforyourbtc! : neways g2g
[2017-02-22 14:43:03] ross : thxforyourbtc!: short?
[2017-02-22 14:43:11] thxforyourbtc! : be back in 6 hours to collect
[2017-02-22 14:43:15] thxforyourbtc! : no wtf
[2017-02-22 14:43:16] paper : akanalytics is one of best btc analysts out there. he just said we're on the verge of breaking both regional highs and ath, and perhaps even today
[2017-02-22 14:43:21] thxforyourbtc! : long of course lol
[2017-02-22 14:43:34] Dynamix : thxforyourbtc!: damn , good luck :)
[2017-02-22 14:43:36] ross : We aren't even at 1120 yet
[2017-02-22 14:43:48] Dynamix : ross: mar 31 man 1145 ;)
[2017-02-22 14:43:53] ross : Ah
[2017-02-22 14:44:05] ross : was having a mind fuck there
[2017-02-22 14:44:56] paper : oh, he also uses mex so might be lurking :)
[2017-02-22 14:45:55] paper : probably doesn't give a fuck about trollbox tho :)
[2017-02-22 14:46:28] aeos : paper: whos this?
[2017-02-22 14:48:04] paper : an economist named adam who used to give forecasts back in the day on btctalk, upon discovering that traditional TA could apply to even btc
[2017-02-22 14:48:13] BitMEX_Sam : @Farzad You can now use markdown tables as described https://github.com/adam-p/markdown-here/wiki/Markdown-Cheatsheet#tables in testnet
[2017-02-22 14:48:16] BitMEX_Sam : I'll roll it to production later on
[2017-02-22 14:49:20] Farzad : BitMEX_Sam: OK, Thanks :)
[2017-02-22 14:50:22] BitMEX_Sam : http://i.imgur.com/l3Y2cmJ.png
[2017-02-22 14:54:30] aeos : paper: any social media you can follow him?
[2017-02-22 14:54:38] ross : How high we gonna go, will we break ath tonight?
[2017-02-22 14:55:45] bingbongfly : down to test 1060 $ today
[2017-02-22 14:55:55] -_- : $33 bitstamp and $49 bitfinex away from ATH
[2017-02-22 14:56:04] ross : Maybe I should close then
[2017-02-22 14:56:05] paper : it just gave me that machine gun sound that goes off when stops are being filled in rapid succession, kinda spooked me
[2017-02-22 14:56:13] paper : was to do w/ msg to me i guess
[2017-02-22 14:56:25] rapidtrades : another reminder to shorts to not keep much money here or use isolated margin
[2017-02-22 14:56:41] rapidtrades : don't let the bastards drain ur whole account in case of ETF approval
[2017-02-22 14:57:06] rapidtrades : want all of them ADLed above 1250/1300
[2017-02-22 14:57:21] ross : rapidtrades: thought you were pro shorts
[2017-02-22 14:58:00] paper : aeos: https://twitter.com/AKWAnalytics?lang=en
[2017-02-22 14:59:11] rapidtrades : especailly on march, premium will go crazy in case of approval
[2017-02-22 15:01:22] rapidtrades : sweet 0.375% next! CHA_CHING!
[2017-02-22 15:02:09] anonymous123421 : rapidtrades: do you just short with no leverage to hold USD and collect interest? That's what I think you're doing
[2017-02-22 15:02:20] elmorte : rapidtrades: you top of the ADL queue on swap?
[2017-02-22 15:04:42] ross : /wall
[2017-02-22 15:04:42] trollbot : BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1128.0 => [3059 Ƀ] (8.75%) <= 1158.0 Bids: 1097.6 => [1221 Ƀ] (-9.62%) <= 1127.9
[2017-02-22 15:04:42] trollbot : BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1129.78 => [1209 Ƀ] (15.92%) <= 1159.99 Bids: 1099.05 => [596 Ƀ] (6.24%) <= 1129.20
[2017-02-22 15:06:57] NukeLaloosh : _yo_ ` @elmorte ` **whatup**
[2017-02-22 15:06:59] rapidtrades : anonymous123421: did u NOT read what i just said above
[2017-02-22 15:07:22] rapidtrades : elmorte: pretty much, entry price below 900
[2017-02-22 15:07:57] elmorte : NukeLaloosh: whatup! Trying not to lose my house....you?
[2017-02-22 15:08:03] LocoPoco Chatocho : rejected again! double top confirmed! bitcoin back to 600$ :)
[2017-02-22 15:08:04] paper : since i'm pretty new to this exchange, can someone give tips on how to prevent ADL? for reference, i tend to open trades at 10x, cross, perp swap, xbtusd.
[2017-02-22 15:08:16] anonymous123421 : rapidtrades: Just logged in
[2017-02-22 15:08:49] i3 : here we are consolidation
[2017-02-22 15:08:50] i3 : hehe
[2017-02-22 15:08:55] odieoh : @paper the best way not to get ADL'd is for your lucky coin to guess the right direction
[2017-02-22 15:09:05] paper : when i'm at maybe 50% gains on trades it already has me down to 7x or so and i don't know if my trades would ever make it into 2k+ w/o getting auto-closed from ADL
[2017-02-22 15:09:44] BitMEX_Sam : That's a different thing re: your leverage reducing when you're in profit
[2017-02-22 15:09:53] BitMEX_Sam : Your leverage is effectively lower because there's more money in the position.
[2017-02-22 15:10:05] paper : odieoh: huh? i normally choose right direction b/c i don't short in bull mkt, and also normally get ADL'd pretty quickly
[2017-02-22 15:10:07] odieoh : leverage going lower without you doing anything is a good thing
[2017-02-22 15:10:37] odieoh : @paper if you are guessing in the right direction, there's no way for you to get ADL'd
[2017-02-22 15:10:43] paper : odieoh: sure, less fees perhaps, just so long as lev goes back up if price drops
[2017-02-22 15:11:11] rapidtrades : odieoh: wat...ADL mostly happens when ur in profit
[2017-02-22 15:11:21] rapidtrades : that's the whole point of the system
[2017-02-22 15:11:28] NukeLaloosh : meh, houses are so 2016. all the kids are doing the ```co-living``` thing these days @elmorte
[2017-02-22 15:11:28] odieoh : o wait I misunderstood
[2017-02-22 15:11:59] NukeLaloosh : yeah, not quite as fun without that massive backwardation @elmorte
[2017-02-22 15:12:14] BitMEX_Greg : ADL occurs based on profit and leverage, if you have a position with a loss then you are unlikely to get called.
[2017-02-22 15:12:24] rapidtrades : @aethlios are u here?
[2017-02-22 15:12:34] paper : i'm holding a lot of contracts and don't want to unload many until well on the way to 2k$ but don't know if that's possible
[2017-02-22 15:12:40] elmorte : BitMEX_Greg: then why are all the lights on?
[2017-02-22 15:12:49] paper : b/c i've never used this exchange for such an epic run
[2017-02-22 15:13:13] rapidtrades : paper: im trying to not make that possible
[2017-02-22 15:13:14] KyllingLolsson : /price
[2017-02-22 15:13:14] trollbot : Bitstamp: 1129.99 (0.35%)
[2017-02-22 15:13:14] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1128.4 (0.41%)
[2017-02-22 15:13:15] trollbot : GDAX: 1128.2 (0.26%)
[2017-02-22 15:13:15] BitMEX_Greg : elmorte: There could be users who have a loss larger than yours who you are infront of in the queue
[2017-02-22 15:13:15] trollbot : itBit: 1125 (0.39%)
[2017-02-22 15:13:15] trollbot : Kraken: 1127.69 (0.45%)
[2017-02-22 15:13:17] trollbot : OKCoin: 1105.0 (0.18%)
[2017-02-22 15:13:18] sleger : elmorte: is it night time maybe ?
[2017-02-22 15:13:22] aethlios : i am here for a few minutes more. what's up??
[2017-02-22 15:13:48] rapidtrades : aethlios: do u remember what u choose at level 4 verification on coinsbank?
[2017-02-22 15:13:56] elmorte : sleger: I mean at rapids house...there's obviously no one home
[2017-02-22 15:14:02] rapidtrades : cos if u pick self-employed they ask for website and company
[2017-02-22 15:14:07] paper : rapidtrades: ha, well i haven't spent yrs investing in btc and working in industry so some guy in chatbox can make money from pretending it's still 2014
[2017-02-22 15:14:11] -_- : stamp $30 away from ATH
[2017-02-22 15:14:34] rapidgains : look at 3d chart
[2017-02-22 15:14:36] rapidgains : lol
[2017-02-22 15:14:42] aethlios : rapidtrades: you don't need ver. 4, doesn't offer more.
[2017-02-22 15:14:43] odieoh : I have to say, the ADL "lights" thing is not the most intuitive. Do the colors actually mean anything, like is the light yellow/green different than the darker green? Or is it just whether they're lit at all or not?
[2017-02-22 15:15:04] paper : anyway, if anyone in 2017 has tips on how a bitmex n00b like myself can keep his leveraged trades open w/o getting ADL'd, let me know :)
[2017-02-22 15:15:13] cryptokeeper : pick up buys yall
[2017-02-22 15:15:16] cryptokeeper : lagging behind mark
[2017-02-22 15:15:27] rapidtrades : aethlios: i mean the level 4 questionnaire? cos they said verification ok but my limits are not lifted yet
[2017-02-22 15:15:32] cryptokeeper : we are going past 1150... FYI
[2017-02-22 15:15:36] elmorte : BitMEX_Greg: thanks Greg, it's comforting that most ppl are worse off
[2017-02-22 15:16:02] elmorte : NukeLaloosh: trying to milk that funding, hopefully it doesn't blow up in my face
[2017-02-22 15:16:05] BitMEX_Greg : odieoh: It is just an indication of what percentile you are in. If all lights are lit then you are in the top 20% percentile, if only 4 lights are lit then you are in the top 40% etc
[2017-02-22 15:16:24] aethlios : rapidtrades: send them e-mail, you need ver 3 for unlimited. they will fix it.
[2017-02-22 15:16:32] BitMEX_Greg : elmorte: As in, they may have had short on with an entry price lower than yours. They may also be on a lower leverage too
[2017-02-22 15:17:00] paper : can you just deposit more btc if you don't want to get ADL
[2017-02-22 15:17:03] paper : 'd?
[2017-02-22 15:17:06] rapidtrades : aethlios: ok tnx
[2017-02-22 15:17:10] mark121 : yes
[2017-02-22 15:17:21] elmorte : BitMEX_Greg: yeah, that's why I asked rapid...since he's short since 2014
[2017-02-22 15:17:27] BitMEX_Greg : haha
[2017-02-22 15:17:35] paper : does closing a percent of your contract reduce the lights?
[2017-02-22 15:17:55] mark121 : doesnt seem so u gota reduce leverage
[2017-02-22 15:17:56] BitMEX_Greg : paper: Yes given your profit is effectively reduced
[2017-02-22 15:18:22] cryptokeeper : bitfinex going for it
[2017-02-22 15:18:38] y1uy : lel
[2017-02-22 15:18:43] LocoPoco Chatocho : 1030 wont break on bitfinex. Just a little more push&fail and the epic dump will be here :D
[2017-02-22 15:18:45] paper : BitMEX_Greg: that is to say, realized gains don't get taken into account?
[2017-02-22 15:18:51] mark121 : lol i suggest ya'll consider closing ur longs
[2017-02-22 15:18:54] mark121 : yes loco poco
[2017-02-22 15:19:02] cryptokeeper : mark121: lololololol
[2017-02-22 15:19:03] mark121 : exactly
[2017-02-22 15:19:15] cryptokeeper : mark121: just because u shorted doesnt mean we have to bring it down to your entry price
[2017-02-22 15:19:20] paper : BitMEX_Greg: for example, say i close x amount of contracts on btc at 1300$, just to get less lights. would that do anything?
[2017-02-22 15:19:24] cryptokeeper : close your short and go long....
[2017-02-22 15:19:25] mark121 : huh
[2017-02-22 15:19:37] mark121 : okay, il talk to you later today
[2017-02-22 15:19:38] BitMEX_Greg : paper: Correct, if you completely close your position then you won't have any position to be ADL'd on.
[2017-02-22 15:19:41] sleger : paper: you cant close at 1300, yet
[2017-02-22 15:19:53] rapidtrades : yet lol
[2017-02-22 15:20:00] rapidtrades : what a perma-bull
[2017-02-22 15:20:05] mark121 : i imagine once u r destroyed
[2017-02-22 15:20:05] paper : BitMEX_Greg: oh hell no, i'm no gonna completely close. no way!
[2017-02-22 15:20:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 200 @ 0.003440
[2017-02-22 15:20:07] sleger : me ? lol no
[2017-02-22 15:20:10] mark121 : u wont be in chat
[2017-02-22 15:20:22] mark121 : just tryin to help
[2017-02-22 15:20:43] paper : sleger: sure, but planning ahead. success favors the prepared and all that ;)
[2017-02-22 15:21:46] paper : the idea here, for me, is to have entry price always be hundreds of dollars below spot price, then you can just go live life w/o worry
[2017-02-22 15:22:02] paper : until closing trade
[2017-02-22 15:22:03] sleger : rapidtrades: coinbase 1131
[2017-02-22 15:22:40] sleger : paper: hey if you want to sell some at 900 we can do a deal, if you like your entry price below spot
[2017-02-22 15:22:55] rapidtrades : don't care, they'll keep buying the dip until they're crushed by news like the last 2 times
[2017-02-22 15:23:02] mark121 : its not news
[2017-02-22 15:23:03] mark121 : lol
[2017-02-22 15:23:07] paper : sleger: dude, this is a long term problem i'm trying to work out here
[2017-02-22 15:23:11] mark121 : u gota give up on that
[2017-02-22 15:23:25] mark121 : its technical and nothing more at this pt, nevertheless they will still b crushed
[2017-02-22 15:23:52] mark121 : news is just used to retrofit and "make sense" of dips - same things happen in equities
[2017-02-22 15:24:22] sleger : funny when the newbs pretend to be the experts
[2017-02-22 15:24:22] rapidtrades : so u don't think the 30% crash had anything to do with news from cnynoya?
[2017-02-22 15:24:31] paper : so i have to completely close the contract then, to get less lights, correct?
[2017-02-22 15:24:38] rapidtrades : yes
[2017-02-22 15:24:45] mark121 : no it did not, it was in the cards for months prior
[2017-02-22 15:24:47] paper : well, shit
[2017-02-22 15:25:00] yungyang : mark121: no one will listen to this logic, my friend
[2017-02-22 15:25:04] mark121 : lol
[2017-02-22 15:25:09] yungyang : these people are obsessed with news
[2017-02-22 15:25:12] mark121 : true
[2017-02-22 15:25:19] .. : news: bitfinex down
[2017-02-22 15:25:20] mark121 : think one just called me a newb lol
[2017-02-22 15:25:30] rapidtrades : closing removes ur profit and thus puts u few stops back in the ADL line
[2017-02-22 15:25:49] paper : i keep meeting others who have probelms finding good, affordable long-term solutions on how to keep leveraged trades open on a medium to long-term basis
[2017-02-22 15:25:51] Tetsuo : `FINEX: HACKED AND ROBBED`
[2017-02-22 15:25:56] sleger : mark121: yes newb
[2017-02-22 15:26:03] mark121 : cute
[2017-02-22 15:26:04] sleger : when did you show up here ?
[2017-02-22 15:26:08] paper : and no real answers from them or me yet
[2017-02-22 15:26:10] -_- : when you get ADL it's because the price is moving so fast that it'll be hard to try and game the system to your advantage. either you get ADL or you dont
[2017-02-22 15:26:23] rapidtrades : FINEX: HACKED AND ROBBED
[2017-02-22 15:26:25] InvalidUser : The last time China came out with news the market barley even flinched.
[2017-02-22 15:26:34] mendax090 : Quick question about the Take Profit Limit... The Trigger Price should be the Price where I want to sell?
[2017-02-22 15:27:02] mark121 : fyi sleger, being in the trollbox has nothing to do with talent or skill, it has to do with being in the trollbox lol - i used this site for months before even opening the box
[2017-02-22 15:27:04] Tetsuo : `LOOKS BAD FOR FINEX`
[2017-02-22 15:27:17] thomaskikansha : finex loves ruining the party
[2017-02-22 15:27:21] mark121 : but hey, to each their own
[2017-02-22 15:27:30] .. : just a little ddos i guess, but nice trigger to go down a bit
[2017-02-22 15:27:34] -_- : bitfinex price hasnt changed in 9 minutes. WTF
[2017-02-22 15:27:35] Tetsuo : Does this mean all my Finex Tokens will become even more useless
[2017-02-22 15:27:41] Tetsuo : -_-: it´s down
[2017-02-22 15:27:44] Tetsuo : hacked and robbed
[2017-02-22 15:27:49] elmorte : finex down here too
[2017-02-22 15:27:49] Tetsuo : check the website
[2017-02-22 15:27:50] mendax090 : Finex isn't hacked, is just getting DDoS attacks
[2017-02-22 15:27:52] rapidtrades : loool finex down again, told u that will happen yday
[2017-02-22 15:27:57] Tetsuo : it says: sorry for your losses
[2017-02-22 15:28:02] sleger : mark121: and yet you've been very active since the past few hours. Wonderful discovery this trollbox for you
[2017-02-22 15:28:02] mark121 : Bitfinex Targeted in “Severe” DDoS Attack
[2017-02-22 15:28:12] rapidtrades : they're the most incompetent company in the bitcoin space
[2017-02-22 15:28:16] mark121 : actually i havent been active at all
[2017-02-22 15:28:22] .. : yday they had 100k requests to some api or smth
[2017-02-22 15:28:27] .. : per second
[2017-02-22 15:28:33] mark121 : i spoke for the first time in over 24 hrs, less than 10 mins ago
[2017-02-22 15:28:34] elmorte : last time I did that I got banned
[2017-02-22 15:28:35] mark121 : lol!
[2017-02-22 15:28:47] cryptobull : mark121: old news
[2017-02-22 15:28:51] mark121 : duh
[2017-02-22 15:28:54] sleger : and 30 counts out of last 1000 messages, not bad
[2017-02-22 15:28:56] mark121 : yet ppl callin hacked
[2017-02-22 15:29:10] rapidtrades : lol haxed
[2017-02-22 15:29:18] Tetsuo : so it´s confirmed?
[2017-02-22 15:29:22] herpinator : source
[2017-02-22 15:29:27] elmorte : yep, bitcoin ded
[2017-02-22 15:29:28] rapidtrades : TWITTER
[2017-02-22 15:29:30] elmorte : rip in pieces
[2017-02-22 15:29:33] LocoPoco Chatocho : I hope poloniex get hacked soon so all alt scams die
[2017-02-22 15:29:33] Tetsuo : HIDDEN IRC
[2017-02-22 15:30:06] elmorte : LocoPoco Chatocho: why?
[2017-02-22 15:30:37] paper : https://bitfinex.statuspage.io/
[2017-02-22 15:30:38] elmorte : you can't buy alts for fiat anyway...
[2017-02-22 15:30:48] sleger : bitfinex announcement : the market will reopen at 1150 with a huge buy wall, no price below 1150 allowed
[2017-02-22 15:31:02] LocoPoco Chatocho : sleger: huehuehue
[2017-02-22 15:31:33] elmorte : it's back bitcoin lives!
[2017-02-22 15:31:48] Gr33d : +1
[2017-02-22 15:31:52] anonymous123421 : alts are basically the crypto equivalent of shitty penny stocks
[2017-02-22 15:32:40] elmorte : yes, but how are they harmful to us?
[2017-02-22 15:32:56] mark121 : they are profitable
[2017-02-22 15:33:00] mark121 : tis all that matters
[2017-02-22 15:33:16] anonymous123421 : I dunno, I was just giving my opinion, I think they're fine to stick around, innovation is good
[2017-02-22 15:33:31] elmorte : > [23:29] LocoPoco Chatocho: I hope poloniex get hacked soon so all alt scams die
[2017-02-22 15:33:44] elmorte : context
[2017-02-22 15:33:48] anonymous123421 : that's not me
[2017-02-22 15:33:54] elmorte : I know
[2017-02-22 15:34:16] sleger : i wonder if we'll reach 1500 before it goes back down to 3 digits ? What dya think @rapidtrades ?
[2017-02-22 15:34:22] mark121 : lol
[2017-02-22 15:34:30] mark121 : and u called me a newb
[2017-02-22 15:34:35] sleger : you are
[2017-02-22 15:34:46] mark121 : u are very uninformed
[2017-02-22 15:34:52] elmorte : Don't tease him @sleger ...rapid said we won't see $1000 this year again
[2017-02-22 15:34:54] LocoPoco Chatocho : They are all scams and distractions created from greed! Not like bitcoin, which was more like an ideological project to begin with! Everything else than bitcoin that labels themself crypto is complete scam
[2017-02-22 15:34:59] sleger : if you werent a newb, you'd know im saying that to piss him off dummy @mark121
[2017-02-22 15:35:20] elmorte : LocoPoco Chatocho: so you're alt-right of bitcoin?
[2017-02-22 15:35:22] dodic : short all the coins
[2017-02-22 15:35:24] mark121 : my knowledge of a troll has no relation to my skill, i hope
[2017-02-22 15:35:28] sleger : "mark121: u are very uninformed" <= this guy is "informed", someone told him future prices
[2017-02-22 15:35:30] mark121 : or does it
[2017-02-22 15:35:30] LocoPoco Chatocho : elmorte: :D
[2017-02-22 15:35:47] cookielito : WHY THE HELL IS SWAP SO LOW?
[2017-02-22 15:35:57] elmorte : cookielito: finex ded
[2017-02-22 15:36:03] cookielito : oh really?
[2017-02-22 15:36:08] elmorte : no
[2017-02-22 15:36:10] -_- : cookielito: people shorting to get paid the funding
[2017-02-22 15:36:12] mark121 : sleger, never stop being u
[2017-02-22 15:36:29] sleger : mark121: you dont know who is me though, you're a newb, just showed up
[2017-02-22 15:36:40] mark121 : ouch wrong again
[2017-02-22 15:36:48] sleger : cookielito: i just brough tthe price up again for you
[2017-02-22 15:36:49] mark121 : must be gettin old
[2017-02-22 15:36:57] mark121 : u tried this 3 or 4 weeks ago
[2017-02-22 15:37:00] odieoh : @locopoco chatocho, Are you the one who wrote this? Sounds like you. https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/52y27u/in_celebration_of_the_upcoming_devcon_2_id_like/
[2017-02-22 15:37:02] indelibleTrade : so buy. finex loading fine my side
[2017-02-22 15:37:14] Tetsuo : /foresight `LOOKS BAD`
[2017-02-22 15:37:38] herpinator : is finex ok? is it just api thats down?
[2017-02-22 15:38:03] cookielito : @sleger soon enough we will see the swap arise
[2017-02-22 15:38:20] sleger : cookielito: just helped : XBTUSD 32308 31256 0 1113.00
[2017-02-22 15:38:44] cookielito : sleger:
[2017-02-22 15:38:51] cookielito : We are just about in the same boat
[2017-02-22 15:38:58] sleger : i dont think so
[2017-02-22 15:39:05] dodic : arise chicken
[2017-02-22 15:39:11] cookielito : CHIKUN
[2017-02-22 15:40:07] InvalidUser : O christ the BTC-e crew is here
[2017-02-22 15:40:14] herpinator : lol
[2017-02-22 15:40:25] ross : Fine X down again??
[2017-02-22 15:40:41] LocoPoco Chatocho : InvalidUser: They come here to gamble away all their customers drug money
[2017-02-22 15:40:45] cookielito : InvalidUser: Relax
[2017-02-22 15:41:48] LocoPoco Chatocho : DDOS is by the #1 shorter getting nervous.
[2017-02-22 15:43:19] rapidgains : you fuck1ng know it
[2017-02-22 15:44:19] herpinator : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 15:44:22] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 14.79/85.21 Daily: 42.57/57.44 Weekly: 43.37/56.63 Monthly: 47.44/52.56
[2017-02-22 15:44:41] LocoPoco Chatocho : Stamp 1134
[2017-02-22 15:45:11] herpinator : combined orderbooks looking thin on buy side
[2017-02-22 15:45:14] sleger : when it reopens, all margin shorts will auto close
[2017-02-22 15:47:00] cryptobull : finex is up again
[2017-02-22 15:47:11] herpinator : ya w
[2017-02-22 15:47:16] herpinator : we back
[2017-02-22 15:47:29] .. : 130k JPY on flyer, for what it's worth
[2017-02-22 15:48:32] rapidgains : ddos dumps are so 2015
[2017-02-22 15:48:56] .. : lol yeh, could actually work by that time too
[2017-02-22 15:49:00] aguia7 : Go go bitcoin, to 1130 :)
[2017-02-22 15:49:05] rapidgains : this prob helped finex market buy 1130 lmao
[2017-02-22 15:50:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 150 @ 1154.30
[2017-02-22 15:51:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 12400 @ 7766.8
[2017-02-22 15:52:33] jzayy : what is realized pnl?? It's always negative
[2017-02-22 15:52:40] sleger : trade better
[2017-02-22 15:52:43] Gr33d : lol
[2017-02-22 15:52:52] jzayy : I am up in the trade lol.
[2017-02-22 15:53:00] jzayy : my unrealized pnl is 25%
[2017-02-22 15:53:07] sleger : fees
[2017-02-22 15:53:12] jzayy : oh ok
[2017-02-22 15:53:16] Gr33d : ... Well, you are only 'up' when you close it at profit.
[2017-02-22 15:53:25] Gr33d : Until then it doesn't count ;)
[2017-02-22 15:53:37] herpinator : ^
[2017-02-22 15:53:43] LocoPoco Chatocho : ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[2017-02-22 15:53:53] jzayy : so if your short do you gain interest?
[2017-02-22 15:53:54] herpinator : and you only profit from btc when you cash out to fiat
[2017-02-22 15:53:55] odieoh : Paper gains are pretty cool though
[2017-02-22 15:54:02] odieoh : yes jzayy
[2017-02-22 15:54:15] odieoh : yes indeed
[2017-02-22 15:54:25] odieoh : back up the truck and start shoveling in the profits
[2017-02-22 15:54:38] jzayy : ok good to know. Shorting alts a better way to long bitcoin without fees if only there was any liquidity
[2017-02-22 15:54:58] aguia7 : If we use the graph in Bitfinex, to operate, to negotiate, can it work? Because, in chart bitfinex, have more candles.
[2017-02-22 15:55:28] odieoh : Well more candles is nice
[2017-02-22 15:55:31] jzayy : no one fomoing btc contracts here . sad :(
[2017-02-22 15:55:42] odieoh : set your chart to 1 sec intervals and there will be lots
[2017-02-22 15:56:02] jzayy : bitstamp has better fomo
[2017-02-22 15:56:27] ross : Someone break the wall
[2017-02-22 15:57:39] herpinator : 3k btc sell for -1% move 5k btc buy for +1% move
[2017-02-22 15:58:36] GTmann : guys, sorry this is noob level, but where can i find the calculations to determine actual PNL
[2017-02-22 15:59:31] aguia7 : http://www.tradingview.com/x/bcZ03naP cup handle
[2017-02-22 16:00:34] fulrik : I have another noob-question. Currently engaged with a BTC swap contract. I bought the contract at 5x. But now when I look at open positions it says 2.95x. Why is that?
[2017-02-22 16:00:35] BitMEX_Wally : GTmann: https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/XBT#Marking-and-Settlement
[2017-02-22 16:00:54] BitMEX_Wally : fulrik: Your effective leverage has decreased because you are in profit
[2017-02-22 16:01:40] -_- : these sell bots need to be turned off. why you want to sell right below ATH and then have to buy higher I do not know
[2017-02-22 16:01:52] fulrik : BitMEX_Wally: That is what puzzles me. I am in profit in "Realised PNL" but under Unrealised PNL I have a loss
[2017-02-22 16:01:56] herpinator : -_-: maybe they are taking profit
[2017-02-22 16:02:37] BitMEX_Wally : fulrik: Unrealised PNL the difference between your entry price and the current mark price. Realised PNL is any fees paid, including funding, and any PNL from partially closing the position
[2017-02-22 16:03:33] cryptokeeper : down we go
[2017-02-22 16:03:51] fulrik : BitMEX_Wally But I didn't close the potition partially. I haven't touched it since I made it
[2017-02-22 16:03:58] fulrik : position*
[2017-02-22 16:04:21] BitMEX_Wally : fulrik: Probably funding payments received then
[2017-02-22 16:04:24] cryptokeeper : quarts dropping off
[2017-02-22 16:04:35] cryptokeeper : CANCEL ALL ORDERS!
[2017-02-22 16:04:41] cryptokeeper : we will not be mooning atm
[2017-02-22 16:04:50] fulrik : BitMEX_Wally: Okay. Also. How can I calculate how much I will pay to have the contract open?
[2017-02-22 16:04:57] y1uy : BitMEX_Wally: my eth trade got liquidated way above my liq price, tf is going on?
[2017-02-22 16:05:33] Sultan Pepper : *This troll box is boring, and the /jokes are all old. We need something fresh, tasty, and bold. Hold off on the chilis, I've got something better. What this place needs is a little Sultan Pepper.*
[2017-02-22 16:05:42] BitMEX_Wally : fulrik: The funding rate is shown in the top right with a countdown
[2017-02-22 16:05:57] BitMEX_Wally : y1uy: We send an email explaining the liquidation and the prices
[2017-02-22 16:07:33] fulrik : BitMEX_Wally: Can't really seem to find that Where am I looking? On the "Margin" widget?
[2017-02-22 16:07:54] BitMEX_Wally : fulrik: Top right in the ticker bar.
[2017-02-22 16:08:05] BitMEX_Wally : fulrik: Also it is in the Contract Details widget on the side bar
[2017-02-22 16:08:09] BitMEX_Wally : Also it is in the fees page
[2017-02-22 16:08:15] BitMEX_Wally : Also it is in the contact specification
[2017-02-22 16:09:02] BitMEX_Wally : `Funding Rate 0.3750% In 3 hours` so if you are short you will receive 0.375% of the value of your position
[2017-02-22 16:11:36] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: when are you planning to announce a change on index calculation ?
[2017-02-22 16:14:40] cryptokeeper : yeah that needs to desperately be changed
[2017-02-22 16:15:04] cryptokeeper : quarts dumpage
[2017-02-22 16:15:05] herpinator : i agree
[2017-02-22 16:15:11] cryptokeeper : dump it... pump it
[2017-02-22 16:15:40] BitMEX_Wally : We launched a new `.BXBTJPY` index and quarterly today. `.BXBTUSD` to be announced soon as a we are happy with stability
[2017-02-22 16:15:49] aeos : Sultan Pepper: lol
[2017-02-22 16:17:07] Sultan Pepper : aeos: i'm gonna quit my job to be a poet who buys dips
[2017-02-22 16:18:00] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: days or weeks ?
[2017-02-22 16:18:06] j8 : BitMEX_Wally: XBTH17 will settle on a different index?
[2017-02-22 16:18:35] sleger : I hope not !
[2017-02-22 16:18:40] j8 : i thought you guys said you were waiting for that
[2017-02-22 16:18:59] sleger : they could have index for spot and index for h17 different, then new quaterly on new index
[2017-02-22 16:19:09] j8 : that would make sense to me
[2017-02-22 16:19:23] sleger : yes cant modify a live contract again like h17
[2017-02-22 16:19:33] j8 : unless OKC goes full market disruption event
[2017-02-22 16:19:49] sleger : yes of course
[2017-02-22 16:20:17] sleger : almost done closing my long there, almost withdrew everything, never any issue withwithdrawals
[2017-02-22 16:20:33] BitMEX_Greg : j8: No we will most likely keep it on the same index
[2017-02-22 16:21:13] j8 : alright.
[2017-02-22 16:22:05] j8 : tradeblock XBX is removing okc.com.. probably the right decision but for the wrong reasons
[2017-02-22 16:22:38] NukeLaloosh : BitMEX_Greg: the docs don't say what the .BXBTUSD is based on
[2017-02-22 16:22:41] j8 : the reason being the withdrawal halt at okc.cn
[2017-02-22 16:22:42] Wings : /price
[2017-02-22 16:22:43] trollbot : Bitstamp: 1126.18 (-0.34%)
[2017-02-22 16:22:43] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1126.7 (-0.15%)
[2017-02-22 16:22:43] trollbot : GDAX: 1129.26 (0.09%)
[2017-02-22 16:22:43] trollbot : Kraken: 1126.56 (-0.1%)
[2017-02-22 16:22:43] trollbot : itBit: 1129.65 (0.41%)
[2017-02-22 16:22:44] trollbot : OKCoin: 1107.77 (0.25%)
[2017-02-22 16:22:51] BitMEX_Greg : NukeLaloosh: Yes we have not announced it yet
[2017-02-22 16:22:52] Wings : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 16:22:55] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 29.83/70.17 Daily: 42.03/57.97 Weekly: 43.25/56.75 Monthly: 47.38/52.62
[2017-02-22 16:23:19] NukeLaloosh : BitMEX_Greg: but you're already using in in xbj
[2017-02-22 16:24:15] BitMEX_Greg : NukeLaloosh: XBJ is a different index to .BXBTUSD
[2017-02-22 16:24:24] sleger : j8: stupid reason lol
[2017-02-22 16:24:25] herpinator : -1% move requires 2.4k btc to be sold +1% move requires 4.65k to be bought
[2017-02-22 16:25:15] NukeLaloosh : BitMEX_Greg: oops, i meant .BXBTJPY --what are its constituents?
[2017-02-22 16:25:23] sleger : seems symmetric @herpinator
[2017-02-22 16:25:34] sleger : NukeLaloosh: tuna, salmon and eel
[2017-02-22 16:25:43] BitMEX_Greg : NukeLaloosh: 50% Bitflyer and 50% Quoine
[2017-02-22 16:25:48] elmorte : radioactive eel
[2017-02-22 16:25:59] NukeLaloosh : BitMEX_Greg: spot?
[2017-02-22 16:26:17] BitMEX_Greg : NukeLaloosh: We are using the Bitflyer FX spot price
[2017-02-22 16:27:14] NukeLaloosh : BitMEX_Greg: 50% bitflyer spot, 50% quione ```what?```
[2017-02-22 16:27:19] NukeLaloosh : spot?
[2017-02-22 16:27:36] BitMEX_Greg : NukeLaloosh: Spot price for both
[2017-02-22 16:27:57] aeos : Sultan Pepper: hahaha i will tip you for sure
[2017-02-22 16:28:51] NukeLaloosh : BitMEX_Greg: japan you so crazy. premium melons, premium bitcoin
[2017-02-22 16:29:21] BitMEX_Greg : NukeLaloosh: Have you ever tried any of their premium melons or grapes?
[2017-02-22 16:29:24] BitMEX_Greg : Pretty amazing
[2017-02-22 16:30:05] j8 : bitflyer FX is a derivative, it shouldn't be in a spot index
[2017-02-22 16:30:17] Sultan Pepper : aeos: i've got my tin can out ;)
[2017-02-22 16:30:20] NukeLaloosh : lol i've heard. didn't try when in tokyo a year ago, first time there, blew my mind
[2017-02-22 16:30:52] BitMEX_Greg : n00b: This is your first warning. Please do not beg on this chatbox
[2017-02-22 16:31:00] sleger : j8: he said "Bitflyer FX spot price" is it not spot ?
[2017-02-22 16:31:08] sleger : havent traded there
[2017-02-22 16:31:08] j8 : nope
[2017-02-22 16:31:21] j8 : it's a derivative even though it pretends to be spot
[2017-02-22 16:31:25] j8 : can't withdraw those coins
[2017-02-22 16:31:29] sleger : like the swap here ?
[2017-02-22 16:31:34] BitMEX_Greg : j8: The FX market is the market that international traders can trade on
[2017-02-22 16:31:44] n00b : BitMEX_Greg: ty and sorry greg, just looking for someone to talk to and *not* stink up the chat
[2017-02-22 16:31:53] BitMEX_Greg : n00b: Try reddit
[2017-02-22 16:31:56] j8 : BitMEX_Greg: can they buy and sell actual coins there?
[2017-02-22 16:33:26] BitMEX_Greg : j8: I haven't personally traded there. From what I understand, if you are an international trader and trade on the main platform then you are subject to the tax on sales (something like 8% or so). This is the Lightning FX platform: https://lightning.bitflyer.jp/trade
[2017-02-22 16:33:46] BitMEX_Greg : I believe this is the price that you see on cryptowatch and other charting sites
[2017-02-22 16:34:19] j8 : yeah, i've looked at it, it's a bit hard to figure out, but basically it's margined in JPY and you can't deposit/withdraw BTC
[2017-02-22 16:34:33] .. : cryptowatch has both but FX does have more than 2x vol
[2017-02-22 16:36:04] herpinator : n00b: after a google search you can see your begging all over the internet, that is pathetic. why do you beg like that?
[2017-02-22 16:36:11] BitMEX_Greg : j8: I'll confirm later this week, we have a call with them on Thursday
[2017-02-22 16:36:20] j8 : right on
[2017-02-22 16:36:27] n00b : herpinator: i have never begged?
[2017-02-22 16:36:43] herpinator : n00b: how comes if I google search the email all your begging comes up then?
[2017-02-22 16:37:12] herpinator : come on you gotta work like the rest of us. no such thing as a free lunch
[2017-02-22 16:37:53] n00b : herpinator: the only thing that would come up is maybe my old gamertag and my facebook o.e
[2017-02-22 16:38:58] herpinator : n00b: so you are a liar and a beggar? sad. What would your parents and forefathers say to such dishonest behavior?!
[2017-02-22 16:39:24] sleger : n00b: if you lost 2 grand it's money you could afford to lose, so it's all fine.
[2017-02-22 16:39:30] herpinator : ^
[2017-02-22 16:39:34] NukeLaloosh : j8: so xbj is half spot half derivative?
[2017-02-22 16:40:03] j8 : the contract is fully a derivative, the index is apparently half derivative
[2017-02-22 16:40:43] n00b : sleger: is it worth buying any btc at this price with etf deadline soon?
[2017-02-22 16:41:05] sleger : n00b: if you have no money left like you said you cant buy anything anyways, so why bother ?
[2017-02-22 16:41:15] cryptokeeper : dump it
[2017-02-22 16:41:26] startChat : wtf are the noises on this site? https://lightning.bitflyer.jp
[2017-02-22 16:41:33] cryptokeeper : PBOC doesnt like Bitfinex
[2017-02-22 16:41:36] startChat : https://lightning.bitflyer.jp/trade
[2017-02-22 16:41:44] NukeLaloosh : j8: yes, did mean the index. making the bitflyer half would be more volatile it would seem.
[2017-02-22 16:41:45] elmorte : ghosts of dead whales?
[2017-02-22 16:41:56] n00b : sleger: im out of expendable cash but using my real money seems like the only option, even if foolish. untill my loss i was up 300% in 4 days
[2017-02-22 16:42:15] sleger : if its money you cant afford to lose then you cant use it
[2017-02-22 16:42:32] n00b : sleger: ok ty for your help <3 :*
[2017-02-22 16:46:25] Chewie : burger king girl? lol
[2017-02-22 16:46:40] KyllingLolsson : Berber kerg
[2017-02-22 16:46:56] MikeHunt : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 16:46:58] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 45.27/54.73 Daily: 42.63/57.37 Weekly: 43.34/56.66 Monthly: 47.41/52.59
[2017-02-22 16:47:40] cryptokeeper : u got to dump it... before you pump it
[2017-02-22 16:47:46] cryptokeeper : u got to work it... before you....
[2017-02-22 16:48:33] Sultan Pepper : Twerk it baby
[2017-02-22 16:48:40] sleger : /joke
[2017-02-22 16:48:46] trollbot : Fifty Shades got $47 Million at the box office... There seems to be a lot of women who don't get offended by a billionaire grabbing a girl by the pussy.
[2017-02-22 16:50:33] KyllingLolsson : /triggerme
[2017-02-22 16:50:39] KyllingLolsson : Damn
[2017-02-22 16:51:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 800 @ 1117.12
[2017-02-22 16:51:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 6500 @ 1117.04
[2017-02-22 16:51:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10008 @ 1117.05
[2017-02-22 16:51:45] thomaskikansha : ouch
[2017-02-22 16:52:09] rapidtrades : lol liqd already?
[2017-02-22 16:52:09] rapidtrades : weak longs
[2017-02-22 16:52:10] mark121 : ya 800 contracts
[2017-02-22 16:52:13] mark121 : "ouch"
[2017-02-22 16:52:14] mark121 : :p
[2017-02-22 16:52:20] MikeHunt : 100x suicidals
[2017-02-22 16:52:38] GTmann : is it always 100x by that bot?
[2017-02-22 16:52:41] rapidtrades : mark121: its 16k idiot
[2017-02-22 16:53:12] sleger : the 800 was him
[2017-02-22 16:53:18] sleger : thats why he said ouch
[2017-02-22 16:53:21] sleger : poor guy
[2017-02-22 16:53:37] sleger : it was his (mark121)
[2017-02-22 16:53:48] rapidtrades : :(
[2017-02-22 16:55:19] GTmann : if your trading with isolated leverage, then if liquidated, only whats in margin is lost right?
[2017-02-22 16:55:29] sleger : right
[2017-02-22 16:55:34] tb : unrealized pnl + margin
[2017-02-22 16:55:45] rapidtrades : no
[2017-02-22 16:55:56] j8 : upl is included in margin
[2017-02-22 16:56:03] tb : cool
[2017-02-22 16:56:05] tb : thanks
[2017-02-22 16:56:07] elmorte : if positive
[2017-02-22 16:56:13] j8 : yes ^
[2017-02-22 16:57:16] NukeLaloosh : j8: any more clarity on what is BTC-FX/JPY?
[2017-02-22 16:57:58] elmorte : NukeLaloosh: how many of those open 17k contracts are yours? :)
[2017-02-22 16:58:12] NukeLaloosh : elmorte: a couple
[2017-02-22 16:58:32] MikeHunt : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 16:58:35] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 53.08/46.93 Daily: 42.62/57.38 Weekly: 43.38/56.62 Monthly: 47.41/52.59
[2017-02-22 16:59:03] elmorte : do you just hold till settlement? There is no liquidity @NukeLaloosh
[2017-02-22 16:59:39] NukeLaloosh : i'm trying to understand what i'm looking at first. seems there's < 1% premium on that contract at the moment
[2017-02-22 16:59:53] elmorte : yeah, mm is back it seems
[2017-02-22 17:00:06] elmorte : there were but 4-5 quotes yesterday
[2017-02-22 17:00:21] NukeLaloosh : it wasn't there yesterday
[2017-02-22 17:00:30] NukeLaloosh : this is a new quarterly. yesterday was the 24h
[2017-02-22 17:00:42] elmorte : oh damn...I missed that
[2017-02-22 17:01:15] elmorte : oh, so going long might be a decent call if you can figure out what it settles on....gotcha
[2017-02-22 17:02:12] j8 : NukeLaloosh: its hard to find details but i think it's something like BTCC Pro Exchange. leveraged trading, but not a real spot market
[2017-02-22 17:02:52] j8 : it's basically at the same price as their spot exchange right now. all the JPY markets are flying high
[2017-02-22 17:03:15] NukeLaloosh : exactly elmorte. xbc premium is around 3.6%, xbt is around 2.7%.
[2017-02-22 17:03:43] sleger : the risk is quite big with quoine spikes in prices
[2017-02-22 17:03:49] rapidtrades : aren't u guys tired of making up excuses why we should go up?
[2017-02-22 17:03:51] sleger : easy to get liquidated at off market rates
[2017-02-22 17:03:59] rapidtrades : wake up and smell the coffee
[2017-02-22 17:04:07] elmorte : NukeLaloosh: it's still 1145 USD
[2017-02-22 17:04:10] sleger : rapidtrades: reasons come by themselves, its just magic, no need to make them up
[2017-02-22 17:04:19] rapidtrades : first u were sucking china's penii now ur doing the same with japan
[2017-02-22 17:04:21] j8 : lower premium = market pricing in the arb
[2017-02-22 17:04:31] NukeLaloosh : j8: thanks
[2017-02-22 17:04:47] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: grorious nippon has replaced china apparently
[2017-02-22 17:04:52] rapidtrades : we're below the highs 1 month ago and also below the 3 year highs
[2017-02-22 17:05:09] rapidtrades : face the music bitches
[2017-02-22 17:05:39] elmorte : jan 23?
[2017-02-22 17:05:44] elmorte : we were below 950
[2017-02-22 17:06:04] sleger : and yet the price keeps going up