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BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
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[2017-02-22 13:46:42] .. : private keysss
[2017-02-22 13:48:50] InvalidUser : I just fired up Electrum in case some private keys show up
[2017-02-22 13:52:18] .. : you guys think its worth having bitflyer chart open in a tab?
[2017-02-22 13:53:46] ross : Back in profit now, although my fees are high as shit..
[2017-02-22 13:54:03] thxforyourbtc! : hope everyones long!!!
[2017-02-22 13:55:03] InvalidUser : I use bitflyer, Japan has been leading the market lately.
[2017-02-22 13:55:18] Guy : lulz such hacker, much wow
[2017-02-22 13:55:22] paper : everywhere i go i leave b/c the fees suck. i'd still be 10x from 650 on magnr otherwise
[2017-02-22 13:55:32] paper : 638 i think
[2017-02-22 13:55:45] .. : yeh they about to break 130k i guess.. so wondering if that has relevance if it happens
[2017-02-22 13:56:03] BarefootFlash : Alright, gotta sleep. Good luck all
[2017-02-22 13:56:12] BarefootFlash : paper: let's talk more later
[2017-02-22 13:56:29] mendax090 : Bitcoin sucks, more than 24 hours and my transaction is still unconfirmed
[2017-02-22 13:56:30] paper : BarefootFlash: cheers. don't get rekt in ur sleep ;)
[2017-02-22 13:56:47] BarefootFlash : Haha, thanks. I hope I don't :D
[2017-02-22 13:57:07] thxforyourbtc! : mendax090: link
[2017-02-22 13:57:32] mendax090 : thxforyourbtc!: https://blockchain.info/tx/5aca4a82d3f159c10dea30e95861aced93464bf3ddb209b014c683adb78960d9
[2017-02-22 13:57:43] paper : BarefootFlash: some ppl in the game for longer than me even are super bullish this morning. not trolling, just heads up man, so...stops ;)
[2017-02-22 13:57:49] thxforyourbtc! : Fees 0.0002 BTC Fee per byte 53.619 sat/B
[2017-02-22 13:57:54] bingbongfly : this just won't stop
[2017-02-22 13:57:56] thxforyourbtc! : you cheap fuck llol
[2017-02-22 13:58:09] thxforyourbtc! : could be alot longer
[2017-02-22 13:58:14] bingbongfly : I love 2017
[2017-02-22 13:58:18] mendax090 : thxforyourbtc!: Jaxx Wallet only gives you 3 options.. to be cheap, to be normal, or to spend more.. I used the average
[2017-02-22 13:58:19] bingbongfly : making money sitting on ass
[2017-02-22 13:58:23] bingbongfly : eating icecream
[2017-02-22 13:58:27] BarefootFlash : paper: yup yup
[2017-02-22 13:58:37] thxforyourbtc! : mendax090: thats ur problem
[2017-02-22 13:58:48] thxforyourbtc! : mendax090: spend 50 cents and its within 30mins
[2017-02-22 13:58:58] .. : electrum dynamic fees work well, could even use RBF there too
[2017-02-22 13:59:11] paper : afternoon, whatev. cheer
[2017-02-22 13:59:12] thxforyourbtc! : or save a quarter and wait 2 days
[2017-02-22 13:59:13] paper : s
[2017-02-22 13:59:15] spice : 100x yolo?
[2017-02-22 13:59:59] narnarfromnarnia : spice: do it
[2017-02-22 14:00:07] narnarfromnarnia : about to bust lose
[2017-02-22 14:00:25] rapidgains : bitmex index is a joke lmao
[2017-02-22 14:00:25] paper : no higher than 20x
[2017-02-22 14:00:28] paper : ever
[2017-02-22 14:00:46] spice : Agreed learned my mistake with 25x
[2017-02-22 14:00:49] spice : Never again
[2017-02-22 14:01:27] LocoPoco Chatocho : Only 100x here! I dont feel alive if i dont wipe my portfolio atleast once per day
[2017-02-22 14:01:39] mendax090 : thxforyourbtc!: Still.. I paid a fee, which isn't that low, and my transaction has been in a limbo for more than a day.. Not the kind of technology that will "disrupt" the world
[2017-02-22 14:01:41] paper : i've never tried beyond 11x or so. just another know-it-all german ;)) 10x can be stressful enough tho
[2017-02-22 14:02:02] paper : so 25x is probably nightmare
[2017-02-22 14:02:04] herpinator : I only do 10x also
[2017-02-22 14:02:33] mendax090 : thxforyourbtc!: but anyways, do you know what happens next?.. how long will it remain like that or what can I do to reverse it?
[2017-02-22 14:02:43] thxforyourbtc! : you cant
[2017-02-22 14:03:00] mendax090 : thxforyourbtc!: What will eventually happen?
[2017-02-22 14:03:11] thxforyourbtc! : it will confirm
[2017-02-22 14:03:13] thxforyourbtc! : https://bitcoinfees.21.co/
[2017-02-22 14:03:23] thxforyourbtc! : in 6-135 blocks
[2017-02-22 14:03:25] mendax090 : I saw that page yesterday but to be honest didn't understand it
[2017-02-22 14:03:25] Sinterklaas : bitmex, why is perp. swap so much lower than mar 31?
[2017-02-22 14:03:59] startChat : Sinterklaas: swap settles(funding) in 6 hours. march 31 settles then
[2017-02-22 14:04:12] thxforyourbtc! : people expect it to be higher
[2017-02-22 14:04:18] thxforyourbtc! : so trades at premium
[2017-02-22 14:04:19] micmix : mendax090: use https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/ to push your transaction
[2017-02-22 14:04:25] .. : if it will take more than 72h, most likely most nodes will drop the TX and u can send it again
[2017-02-22 14:05:16] paper : decent shot at new ath today
[2017-02-22 14:05:18] yungyang : Pay higher fees !
[2017-02-22 14:05:29] yungyang : like the post
[2017-02-22 14:05:31] Sinterklaas : but in case of a dump the perp price goes down straight away, not with 6 hour delay.
[2017-02-22 14:05:57] paper : well, maybe we wait for china to be awake
[2017-02-22 14:06:12] rapidgains : index should put back on finex
[2017-02-22 14:06:28] rapidgains : 25% finex, 25% okc spot, 50% stamp
[2017-02-22 14:06:34] Sinterklaas : yup
[2017-02-22 14:06:37] .. : btw, you also send like 0.001 in the change (I assume thats the change?), better to just have 1 output if u gonna have small change like that
[2017-02-22 14:07:06] rapidgains : longers are paying a 0.375% fee because okc spot is $24 below stamp
[2017-02-22 14:07:07] rapidgains : lmao
[2017-02-22 14:07:10] Sinterklaas : bitmex:but in case of a dump the perp price goes down straight away, not with 6 hour delay.
[2017-02-22 14:07:48] thxforyourbtc! : Sinterklaas: no1 buys perp
[2017-02-22 14:07:52] thxforyourbtc! : thats for shorting
[2017-02-22 14:07:55] rapidgains : the only ones not in support are the ones who take advantage of the product by longing quarter
[2017-02-22 14:07:59] thxforyourbtc! : buy the mar31
[2017-02-22 14:08:16] Tetsuo : /bulltax **0.3750%
[2017-02-22 14:08:22] Sinterklaas : paper: @rapidgains @yungyang @micmix @thxforyourbtc! @mendax090 @herpinator @spice are you on perp. or march?
[2017-02-22 14:08:27] rapidgains : yes, buy a contract with a $30 premium that could vanish
[2017-02-22 14:08:35] Sinterklaas : a fuck me, im always on perp...
[2017-02-22 14:08:38] rapidgains : im on quarter
[2017-02-22 14:08:40] thxforyourbtc! : Sinterklaas: heavily long mar31
[2017-02-22 14:08:54] rapidgains : if i wasnt already in
[2017-02-22 14:09:02] rapidgains : id be hesitant to buy a $30 premium
[2017-02-22 14:09:05] cookielito : I understand not why the perpetual swap is barely moving
[2017-02-22 14:09:05] paper : Sinterklaas: perp
[2017-02-22 14:09:06] thxforyourbtc! : Sinterklaas: why? you pay a fee and it doesnt go up as much. mar31 no fee
[2017-02-22 14:09:09] odieoh : @rapidgains, the premium could vanish or it could double
[2017-02-22 14:09:26] rapidgains : which is why swap sucks
[2017-02-22 14:09:39] odieoh : you pay the piper either way
[2017-02-22 14:09:40] Sinterklaas : i didnt even curressing no man... ;(
[2017-02-22 14:09:44] herpinator : Sinterklaas: was on perp just now (long) but I closed at a tiny profit because everything is telling me short, so now I am short on march - march is easier for my type of trading (small ranges and scalping essentially)
[2017-02-22 14:09:46] rapidgains : swap should be for people who dont want to endure drastic premiums or discounts
[2017-02-22 14:10:07] herpinator : lets see what happens
[2017-02-22 14:10:07] rapidgains : but when you have to pay 0.375 because the index is broken, you have to do exactly what you dont want to
[2017-02-22 14:10:08] rapidgains : lmao
[2017-02-22 14:10:22] odieoh : Who exactly are the people who "want" to endure premiums and discounts?
[2017-02-22 14:10:22] rapidgains : of course this only sucks for longs
[2017-02-22 14:10:28] Tetsuo : rapidgains: the index isn´t broken
[2017-02-22 14:10:28] rapidgains : but its the same way when price dumps
[2017-02-22 14:10:37] thxforyourbtc! : im not selling my mar31 untill we get a minimum $60 premium and the price is over 1400
[2017-02-22 14:10:42] yungyang : Sinterklaas: I see swap as a short term vehicle or a hedge. I usually buy march when it's at a deep discount and hold it for times like these
[2017-02-22 14:10:59] rapidgains : odieoh: key word "dont"
[2017-02-22 14:11:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 3000 @ 7684.0
[2017-02-22 14:11:37] yungyang : odieoh: well I think you'd want to endure the swings over a longer period assuming you believe it'll be in premium before you close
[2017-02-22 14:11:44] rapidgains : "Perpetual Swaps mimic a margin-based spot market and hence trade close to the underlying reference Index Price. This is in contrast to a Futures Contract which may trade at significantly different prices due to basis."
[2017-02-22 14:11:58] Sinterklaas : if you open bitumen it starts at perp swap. so i thought this was standard tool to work with...
[2017-02-22 14:12:05] odieoh : @rapidtrades I understood the "don't" but by your logic there are people that "do"
[2017-02-22 14:12:06] rapidgains : how can the product trade close to an index price which tracks two markets that are not close to each other
[2017-02-22 14:12:11] Sinterklaas : bitumen=bitmex
[2017-02-22 14:12:30] rapidgains : explain to me how it isnt broken
[2017-02-22 14:12:35] herpinator : Sinterklaas: depends on your aims if you think you would benefit from thinner books and more volatility then march is better
[2017-02-22 14:12:55] herpinator : march is good for long term low leverage positions too if you get it at discount (if long) due to no funding
[2017-02-22 14:13:01] rapidgains : it works exactly how it should, but an index change could help it, that is all, adios
[2017-02-22 14:13:12] odieoh : think of the march contracts as an option. There's a time factor built into it. You're not betting on the spot price, you're betting on what the price will be in a month
[2017-02-22 14:13:32] odieoh : If you're familiar with stock options and time decay, it's kind of similar
[2017-02-22 14:14:17] herpinator : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 14:14:20] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 28.1/71.9 Daily: 46.62/53.38 Weekly: 43.47/56.53 Monthly: 47.5/52.5
[2017-02-22 14:14:23] thxforyourbtc! : everyone knows btc will be higher in a month so ofc they are paying a premium because thats when it expires
[2017-02-22 14:14:31] Sinterklaas : like a future? @odieoh
[2017-02-22 14:14:42] yungyang : thxforyourbtc!: knows? Hmmm
[2017-02-22 14:14:47] yungyang : it is a future
[2017-02-22 14:14:54] odieoh : yeah
[2017-02-22 14:15:21] Sinterklaas : thxforyourbtc!: yes thats it, if you do a long x4 on perp. you are safe
[2017-02-22 14:16:13] LocoPoco Chatocho : Hello any pro taders here? If i go 100x short now is that smart or dumb?
[2017-02-22 14:16:27] Dynamix : And another dump
[2017-02-22 14:16:31] aeos : LocoPoco Chatocho: coin toss
[2017-02-22 14:17:04] herpinator : aeos: thats how I trade and it never fails
[2017-02-22 14:17:14] aeos : herpinator: lol lucky you
[2017-02-22 14:18:25] herpinator : aeos: another good strategy is to construct a wheel separated into slices like a pizza and each slice has a different combination of long or short and leverage amount, then you get a chicken cut off its head and place it on the wheel, whatever slice the chicken stops on is your position
[2017-02-22 14:18:38] herpinator : never fails
[2017-02-22 14:18:47] herpinator : almost like printing money
[2017-02-22 14:18:53] YOLOCOIN : Milk milk
[2017-02-22 14:18:57] aeos : herpinator: sounds like fun
[2017-02-22 14:19:11] Sinterklaas : bitmex, but perp swap. doesn't go as fast up as lets say bitstamp, but in case of a dump it goes just as far down within minutes...
[2017-02-22 14:19:31] YOLOCOIN : Milk long funds then dump
[2017-02-22 14:19:40] YOLOCOIN : .375
[2017-02-22 14:20:45] LocoPoco Chatocho : Come on lets see sub 1100 soon :D
[2017-02-22 14:22:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2 @ 1116.44 :punch: :whale:
[2017-02-22 14:22:07] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead!
[2017-02-22 14:22:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 17 @ 1116.26
[2017-02-22 14:22:27] herpinator : I think a test of 1119 on finex will happen shortly
[2017-02-22 14:22:37] bingbongfly : NOOO i close my short
[2017-02-22 14:26:23] LocoPoco Chatocho : still lots of sells on finex! its going sub 1100 in 10-15 minutes is my gamble
[2017-02-22 14:27:06] elmorte : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 14:27:09] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 34.39/65.61 Daily: 45.24/54.76 Weekly: 43.5/56.5 Monthly: 47.5/52.5
[2017-02-22 14:27:35] BitMEX_Sam : @Farzad Are you online?
[2017-02-22 14:27:52] Farzad : BitMEX_Sam: Yes
[2017-02-22 14:28:07] BitMEX_Sam : You should have the bot use triple ticks
[2017-02-22 14:28:27] BitMEX_Sam : ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 34.39/65.61 Daily: 45.24/54.76 Weekly: 43.5/56.5 Monthly: 47.5/52.5 ```
[2017-02-22 14:28:38] Farzad : nice, how can I do that ?
[2017-02-22 14:28:54] BitMEX_Sam : use triple backticks (`) on the top and bottom
[2017-02-22 14:29:02] BitMEX_Sam : then it becomes whitespace-sensitive as well so you can align the numbers
[2017-02-22 14:29:18] BitMEX_Sam : e.g. ``` Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 34.39/65.61 Daily: 45.24/54.76 Weekly: 43.50/56.50 Monthly: 47.50/52.50 ```
[2017-02-22 14:29:21] Farzad : BitMEX_Sam: cool, Thanks for the tip :)
[2017-02-22 14:29:28] Dynamix : (')/price (')
[2017-02-22 14:29:32] Dynamix : lol
[2017-02-22 14:29:37] BitMEX_Sam : single backticks make `this`
[2017-02-22 14:29:44] Farzad : `test`
[2017-02-22 14:29:49] Farzad : ```test```
[2017-02-22 14:30:07] Dynamix : ('''" ) test (''')
[2017-02-22 14:30:10] Dynamix : df ;|
[2017-02-22 14:30:12] BitMEX_Sam : Dynamix: don't use the parens
[2017-02-22 14:30:21] BitMEX_Sam : See also the little help circle ----->
[2017-02-22 14:30:22] Farzad : BitMEX_Sam: Does it align the numbers automatically if I use triple ticks ?
[2017-02-22 14:30:27] Dynamix : 'test'
[2017-02-22 14:30:30] BitMEX_Sam : No, you have to do that
[2017-02-22 14:30:33] Dynamix : nvm fuck it
[2017-02-22 14:30:37] BitMEX_Sam : Dynamix: it's a backtick... top-left of your keyboard
[2017-02-22 14:30:44] Dynamix : ooh
[2017-02-22 14:30:50] elmorte : `hopeless`
[2017-02-22 14:30:52] Dynamix : (`)test(`)
[2017-02-22 14:30:56] Dynamix : thanks ;D
[2017-02-22 14:30:57] BitMEX_Sam : Most printf-style utils will do that @Farzad
[2017-02-22 14:31:09] Dynamix : (```) /price (```)
[2017-02-22 14:31:15] Tetsuo : ´doomed´
[2017-02-22 14:31:17] Farzad : BitMEX_Sam: Thanks :) I will implement it
[2017-02-22 14:31:37] Farzad : BitMEX_Sam: any other tips ? ;)
[2017-02-22 14:31:50] BitMEX_Sam : Just that alignment goes a long way towards making it readable
[2017-02-22 14:31:55] elmorte : Give a man a tip, he wants the whole shaft
[2017-02-22 14:31:57] BitMEX_Sam : I'll see if we can easily implement markdown tables as well
[2017-02-22 14:32:06] Farzad : BitMEX_Sam: sure
[2017-02-22 14:32:31] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: so how about that excel API you guys mentioned in 2014? :)
[2017-02-22 14:32:41] Farzad : /ban elmorte
[2017-02-22 14:32:43] Farzad : :D
[2017-02-22 14:33:07] BitMEX_Sam : elmorte: We actually have a module around
[2017-02-22 14:33:14] Farzad : /unban elmorte
[2017-02-22 14:33:18] elmorte : For real? Where?
[2017-02-22 14:33:21] elmorte : /price
[2017-02-22 14:33:22] trollbot : Bitstamp: 1126.00 (0.05%)
[2017-02-22 14:33:22] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1123.8 (-0.27%)
[2017-02-22 14:33:22] trollbot : GDAX: 1125.25 (0.17%)
[2017-02-22 14:33:22] trollbot : Kraken: 1122.6 (-0.07%)
[2017-02-22 14:33:23] trollbot : OKCoin: 1103.0 (-0.03%)
[2017-02-22 14:33:23] trollbot : itBit: 1120.64 (0.09%)
[2017-02-22 14:33:27] BitMEX_Sam : elmorte: https://github.com/BitMEX/BitMEX-Excel
[2017-02-22 14:33:30] elmorte : Hey, you fixed the unban!
[2017-02-22 14:33:36] Tetsuo : `BTC=DOOMED`
[2017-02-22 14:33:46] Farzad : elmorte: yes, it works fine
[2017-02-22 14:34:15] elmorte : BitMEX_Sam: Cheers...how did I not see that before
[2017-02-22 14:34:29] Dynamix : `/price`
[2017-02-22 14:34:38] Dynamix : lel
[2017-02-22 14:34:47] Dynamix : Are we gonna go lower ?
[2017-02-22 14:35:09] Tetsuo : yes
[2017-02-22 14:36:22] bingbongfly : Dynamix: yes
[2017-02-22 14:36:25] bingbongfly : failed to make new highs
[2017-02-22 14:36:32] bingbongfly : Dunno why I got spooked and closed my short
[2017-02-22 14:36:34] Dynamix : good hehe
[2017-02-22 14:40:52] Dynamix : I wanna go long ona sure position
[2017-02-22 14:41:00] Dynamix : with 50k contracts all my account lol
[2017-02-22 14:41:01] Dynamix : 100x
[2017-02-22 14:41:44] thxforyourbtc! : im 100x long for breakout
[2017-02-22 14:41:53] Dynamix : thxforyourbtc!: huh ?
[2017-02-22 14:41:53] thxforyourbtc! : will sell after triple
[2017-02-22 14:42:07] Dynamix : thxforyourbtc!: breakout from where is your entry?
[2017-02-22 14:42:15] thxforyourbtc! : 1132
[2017-02-22 14:42:28] thxforyourbtc! : 1120 liq
[2017-02-22 14:42:58] thxforyourbtc! : neways g2g
[2017-02-22 14:43:03] ross : thxforyourbtc!: short?
[2017-02-22 14:43:11] thxforyourbtc! : be back in 6 hours to collect
[2017-02-22 14:43:15] thxforyourbtc! : no wtf
[2017-02-22 14:43:16] paper : akanalytics is one of best btc analysts out there. he just said we're on the verge of breaking both regional highs and ath, and perhaps even today
[2017-02-22 14:43:21] thxforyourbtc! : long of course lol
[2017-02-22 14:43:34] Dynamix : thxforyourbtc!: damn , good luck :)
[2017-02-22 14:43:36] ross : We aren't even at 1120 yet
[2017-02-22 14:43:48] Dynamix : ross: mar 31 man 1145 ;)
[2017-02-22 14:43:53] ross : Ah
[2017-02-22 14:44:05] ross : was having a mind fuck there
[2017-02-22 14:44:56] paper : oh, he also uses mex so might be lurking :)
[2017-02-22 14:45:55] paper : probably doesn't give a fuck about trollbox tho :)
[2017-02-22 14:46:28] aeos : paper: whos this?
[2017-02-22 14:48:04] paper : an economist named adam who used to give forecasts back in the day on btctalk, upon discovering that traditional TA could apply to even btc
[2017-02-22 14:48:13] BitMEX_Sam : @Farzad You can now use markdown tables as described https://github.com/adam-p/markdown-here/wiki/Markdown-Cheatsheet#tables in testnet
[2017-02-22 14:48:16] BitMEX_Sam : I'll roll it to production later on
[2017-02-22 14:49:20] Farzad : BitMEX_Sam: OK, Thanks :)
[2017-02-22 14:50:22] BitMEX_Sam : http://i.imgur.com/l3Y2cmJ.png
[2017-02-22 14:54:30] aeos : paper: any social media you can follow him?
[2017-02-22 14:54:38] ross : How high we gonna go, will we break ath tonight?
[2017-02-22 14:55:45] bingbongfly : down to test 1060 $ today
[2017-02-22 14:55:55] -_- : $33 bitstamp and $49 bitfinex away from ATH
[2017-02-22 14:56:04] ross : Maybe I should close then
[2017-02-22 14:56:05] paper : it just gave me that machine gun sound that goes off when stops are being filled in rapid succession, kinda spooked me
[2017-02-22 14:56:13] paper : was to do w/ msg to me i guess
[2017-02-22 14:56:25] rapidtrades : another reminder to shorts to not keep much money here or use isolated margin
[2017-02-22 14:56:41] rapidtrades : don't let the bastards drain ur whole account in case of ETF approval
[2017-02-22 14:57:06] rapidtrades : want all of them ADLed above 1250/1300
[2017-02-22 14:57:21] ross : rapidtrades: thought you were pro shorts
[2017-02-22 14:58:00] paper : aeos: https://twitter.com/AKWAnalytics?lang=en
[2017-02-22 14:59:11] rapidtrades : especailly on march, premium will go crazy in case of approval
[2017-02-22 15:01:22] rapidtrades : sweet 0.375% next! CHA_CHING!
[2017-02-22 15:02:09] anonymous123421 : rapidtrades: do you just short with no leverage to hold USD and collect interest? That's what I think you're doing
[2017-02-22 15:02:20] elmorte : rapidtrades: you top of the ADL queue on swap?
[2017-02-22 15:04:42] ross : /wall
[2017-02-22 15:04:42] trollbot : BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1128.0 => [3059 Ƀ] (8.75%) <= 1158.0 Bids: 1097.6 => [1221 Ƀ] (-9.62%) <= 1127.9
[2017-02-22 15:04:42] trollbot : BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1129.78 => [1209 Ƀ] (15.92%) <= 1159.99 Bids: 1099.05 => [596 Ƀ] (6.24%) <= 1129.20
[2017-02-22 15:06:57] NukeLaloosh : _yo_ ` @elmorte ` **whatup**
[2017-02-22 15:06:59] rapidtrades : anonymous123421: did u NOT read what i just said above
[2017-02-22 15:07:22] rapidtrades : elmorte: pretty much, entry price below 900
[2017-02-22 15:07:57] elmorte : NukeLaloosh: whatup! Trying not to lose my house....you?
[2017-02-22 15:08:03] LocoPoco Chatocho : rejected again! double top confirmed! bitcoin back to 600$ :)
[2017-02-22 15:08:04] paper : since i'm pretty new to this exchange, can someone give tips on how to prevent ADL? for reference, i tend to open trades at 10x, cross, perp swap, xbtusd.
[2017-02-22 15:08:16] anonymous123421 : rapidtrades: Just logged in
[2017-02-22 15:08:49] i3 : here we are consolidation
[2017-02-22 15:08:50] i3 : hehe
[2017-02-22 15:08:55] odieoh : @paper the best way not to get ADL'd is for your lucky coin to guess the right direction
[2017-02-22 15:09:05] paper : when i'm at maybe 50% gains on trades it already has me down to 7x or so and i don't know if my trades would ever make it into 2k+ w/o getting auto-closed from ADL
[2017-02-22 15:09:44] BitMEX_Sam : That's a different thing re: your leverage reducing when you're in profit
[2017-02-22 15:09:53] BitMEX_Sam : Your leverage is effectively lower because there's more money in the position.
[2017-02-22 15:10:05] paper : odieoh: huh? i normally choose right direction b/c i don't short in bull mkt, and also normally get ADL'd pretty quickly
[2017-02-22 15:10:07] odieoh : leverage going lower without you doing anything is a good thing
[2017-02-22 15:10:37] odieoh : @paper if you are guessing in the right direction, there's no way for you to get ADL'd
[2017-02-22 15:10:43] paper : odieoh: sure, less fees perhaps, just so long as lev goes back up if price drops
[2017-02-22 15:11:11] rapidtrades : odieoh: wat...ADL mostly happens when ur in profit
[2017-02-22 15:11:21] rapidtrades : that's the whole point of the system
[2017-02-22 15:11:28] NukeLaloosh : meh, houses are so 2016. all the kids are doing the ```co-living``` thing these days @elmorte
[2017-02-22 15:11:28] odieoh : o wait I misunderstood
[2017-02-22 15:11:59] NukeLaloosh : yeah, not quite as fun without that massive backwardation @elmorte
[2017-02-22 15:12:14] BitMEX_Greg : ADL occurs based on profit and leverage, if you have a position with a loss then you are unlikely to get called.
[2017-02-22 15:12:24] rapidtrades : @aethlios are u here?
[2017-02-22 15:12:34] paper : i'm holding a lot of contracts and don't want to unload many until well on the way to 2k$ but don't know if that's possible
[2017-02-22 15:12:40] elmorte : BitMEX_Greg: then why are all the lights on?
[2017-02-22 15:12:49] paper : b/c i've never used this exchange for such an epic run
[2017-02-22 15:13:13] rapidtrades : paper: im trying to not make that possible
[2017-02-22 15:13:14] KyllingLolsson : /price
[2017-02-22 15:13:14] trollbot : Bitstamp: 1129.99 (0.35%)
[2017-02-22 15:13:14] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1128.4 (0.41%)
[2017-02-22 15:13:15] trollbot : GDAX: 1128.2 (0.26%)
[2017-02-22 15:13:15] BitMEX_Greg : elmorte: There could be users who have a loss larger than yours who you are infront of in the queue
[2017-02-22 15:13:15] trollbot : itBit: 1125 (0.39%)
[2017-02-22 15:13:15] trollbot : Kraken: 1127.69 (0.45%)
[2017-02-22 15:13:17] trollbot : OKCoin: 1105.0 (0.18%)
[2017-02-22 15:13:18] sleger : elmorte: is it night time maybe ?
[2017-02-22 15:13:22] aethlios : i am here for a few minutes more. what's up??
[2017-02-22 15:13:48] rapidtrades : aethlios: do u remember what u choose at level 4 verification on coinsbank?
[2017-02-22 15:13:56] elmorte : sleger: I mean at rapids house...there's obviously no one home
[2017-02-22 15:14:02] rapidtrades : cos if u pick self-employed they ask for website and company
[2017-02-22 15:14:07] paper : rapidtrades: ha, well i haven't spent yrs investing in btc and working in industry so some guy in chatbox can make money from pretending it's still 2014
[2017-02-22 15:14:11] -_- : stamp $30 away from ATH
[2017-02-22 15:14:34] rapidgains : look at 3d chart
[2017-02-22 15:14:36] rapidgains : lol
[2017-02-22 15:14:42] aethlios : rapidtrades: you don't need ver. 4, doesn't offer more.
[2017-02-22 15:14:43] odieoh : I have to say, the ADL "lights" thing is not the most intuitive. Do the colors actually mean anything, like is the light yellow/green different than the darker green? Or is it just whether they're lit at all or not?
[2017-02-22 15:15:04] paper : anyway, if anyone in 2017 has tips on how a bitmex n00b like myself can keep his leveraged trades open w/o getting ADL'd, let me know :)
[2017-02-22 15:15:13] cryptokeeper : pick up buys yall
[2017-02-22 15:15:16] cryptokeeper : lagging behind mark
[2017-02-22 15:15:27] rapidtrades : aethlios: i mean the level 4 questionnaire? cos they said verification ok but my limits are not lifted yet
[2017-02-22 15:15:32] cryptokeeper : we are going past 1150... FYI
[2017-02-22 15:15:36] elmorte : BitMEX_Greg: thanks Greg, it's comforting that most ppl are worse off
[2017-02-22 15:16:02] elmorte : NukeLaloosh: trying to milk that funding, hopefully it doesn't blow up in my face
[2017-02-22 15:16:05] BitMEX_Greg : odieoh: It is just an indication of what percentile you are in. If all lights are lit then you are in the top 20% percentile, if only 4 lights are lit then you are in the top 40% etc
[2017-02-22 15:16:24] aethlios : rapidtrades: send them e-mail, you need ver 3 for unlimited. they will fix it.
[2017-02-22 15:16:32] BitMEX_Greg : elmorte: As in, they may have had short on with an entry price lower than yours. They may also be on a lower leverage too
[2017-02-22 15:17:00] paper : can you just deposit more btc if you don't want to get ADL
[2017-02-22 15:17:03] paper : 'd?
[2017-02-22 15:17:06] rapidtrades : aethlios: ok tnx
[2017-02-22 15:17:10] mark121 : yes
[2017-02-22 15:17:21] elmorte : BitMEX_Greg: yeah, that's why I asked rapid...since he's short since 2014
[2017-02-22 15:17:27] BitMEX_Greg : haha
[2017-02-22 15:17:35] paper : does closing a percent of your contract reduce the lights?
[2017-02-22 15:17:55] mark121 : doesnt seem so u gota reduce leverage
[2017-02-22 15:17:56] BitMEX_Greg : paper: Yes given your profit is effectively reduced
[2017-02-22 15:18:22] cryptokeeper : bitfinex going for it
[2017-02-22 15:18:38] y1uy : lel
[2017-02-22 15:18:43] LocoPoco Chatocho : 1030 wont break on bitfinex. Just a little more push&fail and the epic dump will be here :D
[2017-02-22 15:18:45] paper : BitMEX_Greg: that is to say, realized gains don't get taken into account?
[2017-02-22 15:18:51] mark121 : lol i suggest ya'll consider closing ur longs
[2017-02-22 15:18:54] mark121 : yes loco poco
[2017-02-22 15:19:02] cryptokeeper : mark121: lololololol
[2017-02-22 15:19:03] mark121 : exactly
[2017-02-22 15:19:15] cryptokeeper : mark121: just because u shorted doesnt mean we have to bring it down to your entry price
[2017-02-22 15:19:20] paper : BitMEX_Greg: for example, say i close x amount of contracts on btc at 1300$, just to get less lights. would that do anything?
[2017-02-22 15:19:24] cryptokeeper : close your short and go long....
[2017-02-22 15:19:25] mark121 : huh
[2017-02-22 15:19:37] mark121 : okay, il talk to you later today
[2017-02-22 15:19:38] BitMEX_Greg : paper: Correct, if you completely close your position then you won't have any position to be ADL'd on.
[2017-02-22 15:19:41] sleger : paper: you cant close at 1300, yet
[2017-02-22 15:19:53] rapidtrades : yet lol
[2017-02-22 15:20:00] rapidtrades : what a perma-bull
[2017-02-22 15:20:05] mark121 : i imagine once u r destroyed
[2017-02-22 15:20:05] paper : BitMEX_Greg: oh hell no, i'm no gonna completely close. no way!
[2017-02-22 15:20:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 200 @ 0.003440
[2017-02-22 15:20:07] sleger : me ? lol no
[2017-02-22 15:20:10] mark121 : u wont be in chat
[2017-02-22 15:20:22] mark121 : just tryin to help
[2017-02-22 15:20:43] paper : sleger: sure, but planning ahead. success favors the prepared and all that ;)
[2017-02-22 15:21:46] paper : the idea here, for me, is to have entry price always be hundreds of dollars below spot price, then you can just go live life w/o worry
[2017-02-22 15:22:02] paper : until closing trade
[2017-02-22 15:22:03] sleger : rapidtrades: coinbase 1131
[2017-02-22 15:22:40] sleger : paper: hey if you want to sell some at 900 we can do a deal, if you like your entry price below spot
[2017-02-22 15:22:55] rapidtrades : don't care, they'll keep buying the dip until they're crushed by news like the last 2 times
[2017-02-22 15:23:02] mark121 : its not news
[2017-02-22 15:23:03] mark121 : lol
[2017-02-22 15:23:07] paper : sleger: dude, this is a long term problem i'm trying to work out here
[2017-02-22 15:23:11] mark121 : u gota give up on that
[2017-02-22 15:23:25] mark121 : its technical and nothing more at this pt, nevertheless they will still b crushed
[2017-02-22 15:23:52] mark121 : news is just used to retrofit and "make sense" of dips - same things happen in equities
[2017-02-22 15:24:22] sleger : funny when the newbs pretend to be the experts
[2017-02-22 15:24:22] rapidtrades : so u don't think the 30% crash had anything to do with news from cnynoya?
[2017-02-22 15:24:31] paper : so i have to completely close the contract then, to get less lights, correct?
[2017-02-22 15:24:38] rapidtrades : yes
[2017-02-22 15:24:45] mark121 : no it did not, it was in the cards for months prior
[2017-02-22 15:24:47] paper : well, shit
[2017-02-22 15:25:00] yungyang : mark121: no one will listen to this logic, my friend
[2017-02-22 15:25:04] mark121 : lol
[2017-02-22 15:25:09] yungyang : these people are obsessed with news
[2017-02-22 15:25:12] mark121 : true
[2017-02-22 15:25:19] .. : news: bitfinex down
[2017-02-22 15:25:20] mark121 : think one just called me a newb lol
[2017-02-22 15:25:30] rapidtrades : closing removes ur profit and thus puts u few stops back in the ADL line
[2017-02-22 15:25:49] paper : i keep meeting others who have probelms finding good, affordable long-term solutions on how to keep leveraged trades open on a medium to long-term basis
[2017-02-22 15:25:51] Tetsuo : `FINEX: HACKED AND ROBBED`
[2017-02-22 15:25:56] sleger : mark121: yes newb
[2017-02-22 15:26:03] mark121 : cute
[2017-02-22 15:26:04] sleger : when did you show up here ?
[2017-02-22 15:26:08] paper : and no real answers from them or me yet
[2017-02-22 15:26:10] -_- : when you get ADL it's because the price is moving so fast that it'll be hard to try and game the system to your advantage. either you get ADL or you dont
[2017-02-22 15:26:23] rapidtrades : FINEX: HACKED AND ROBBED
[2017-02-22 15:26:25] InvalidUser : The last time China came out with news the market barley even flinched.
[2017-02-22 15:26:34] mendax090 : Quick question about the Take Profit Limit... The Trigger Price should be the Price where I want to sell?
[2017-02-22 15:27:02] mark121 : fyi sleger, being in the trollbox has nothing to do with talent or skill, it has to do with being in the trollbox lol - i used this site for months before even opening the box
[2017-02-22 15:27:04] Tetsuo : `LOOKS BAD FOR FINEX`
[2017-02-22 15:27:17] thomaskikansha : finex loves ruining the party
[2017-02-22 15:27:21] mark121 : but hey, to each their own
[2017-02-22 15:27:30] .. : just a little ddos i guess, but nice trigger to go down a bit
[2017-02-22 15:27:34] -_- : bitfinex price hasnt changed in 9 minutes. WTF
[2017-02-22 15:27:35] Tetsuo : Does this mean all my Finex Tokens will become even more useless
[2017-02-22 15:27:41] Tetsuo : -_-: it´s down
[2017-02-22 15:27:44] Tetsuo : hacked and robbed
[2017-02-22 15:27:49] elmorte : finex down here too
[2017-02-22 15:27:49] Tetsuo : check the website
[2017-02-22 15:27:50] mendax090 : Finex isn't hacked, is just getting DDoS attacks
[2017-02-22 15:27:52] rapidtrades : loool finex down again, told u that will happen yday
[2017-02-22 15:27:57] Tetsuo : it says: sorry for your losses
[2017-02-22 15:28:02] sleger : mark121: and yet you've been very active since the past few hours. Wonderful discovery this trollbox for you
[2017-02-22 15:28:02] mark121 : Bitfinex Targeted in “Severe” DDoS Attack
[2017-02-22 15:28:12] rapidtrades : they're the most incompetent company in the bitcoin space
[2017-02-22 15:28:16] mark121 : actually i havent been active at all
[2017-02-22 15:28:22] .. : yday they had 100k requests to some api or smth
[2017-02-22 15:28:27] .. : per second
[2017-02-22 15:28:33] mark121 : i spoke for the first time in over 24 hrs, less than 10 mins ago
[2017-02-22 15:28:34] elmorte : last time I did that I got banned
[2017-02-22 15:28:35] mark121 : lol!
[2017-02-22 15:28:47] cryptobull : mark121: old news
[2017-02-22 15:28:51] mark121 : duh
[2017-02-22 15:28:54] sleger : and 30 counts out of last 1000 messages, not bad
[2017-02-22 15:28:56] mark121 : yet ppl callin hacked
[2017-02-22 15:29:10] rapidtrades : lol haxed
[2017-02-22 15:29:18] Tetsuo : so it´s confirmed?
[2017-02-22 15:29:22] herpinator : source
[2017-02-22 15:29:27] elmorte : yep, bitcoin ded
[2017-02-22 15:29:28] rapidtrades : TWITTER
[2017-02-22 15:29:30] elmorte : rip in pieces
[2017-02-22 15:29:33] LocoPoco Chatocho : I hope poloniex get hacked soon so all alt scams die
[2017-02-22 15:29:33] Tetsuo : HIDDEN IRC
[2017-02-22 15:30:06] elmorte : LocoPoco Chatocho: why?
[2017-02-22 15:30:37] paper : https://bitfinex.statuspage.io/
[2017-02-22 15:30:38] elmorte : you can't buy alts for fiat anyway...
[2017-02-22 15:30:48] sleger : bitfinex announcement : the market will reopen at 1150 with a huge buy wall, no price below 1150 allowed
[2017-02-22 15:31:02] LocoPoco Chatocho : sleger: huehuehue
[2017-02-22 15:31:33] elmorte : it's back bitcoin lives!
[2017-02-22 15:31:48] Gr33d : +1
[2017-02-22 15:31:52] anonymous123421 : alts are basically the crypto equivalent of shitty penny stocks
[2017-02-22 15:32:40] elmorte : yes, but how are they harmful to us?
[2017-02-22 15:32:56] mark121 : they are profitable
[2017-02-22 15:33:00] mark121 : tis all that matters
[2017-02-22 15:33:16] anonymous123421 : I dunno, I was just giving my opinion, I think they're fine to stick around, innovation is good
[2017-02-22 15:33:31] elmorte : > [23:29] LocoPoco Chatocho: I hope poloniex get hacked soon so all alt scams die
[2017-02-22 15:33:44] elmorte : context
[2017-02-22 15:33:48] anonymous123421 : that's not me
[2017-02-22 15:33:54] elmorte : I know
[2017-02-22 15:34:16] sleger : i wonder if we'll reach 1500 before it goes back down to 3 digits ? What dya think @rapidtrades ?
[2017-02-22 15:34:22] mark121 : lol
[2017-02-22 15:34:30] mark121 : and u called me a newb
[2017-02-22 15:34:35] sleger : you are
[2017-02-22 15:34:46] mark121 : u are very uninformed
[2017-02-22 15:34:52] elmorte : Don't tease him @sleger ...rapid said we won't see $1000 this year again
[2017-02-22 15:34:54] LocoPoco Chatocho : They are all scams and distractions created from greed! Not like bitcoin, which was more like an ideological project to begin with! Everything else than bitcoin that labels themself crypto is complete scam
[2017-02-22 15:34:59] sleger : if you werent a newb, you'd know im saying that to piss him off dummy @mark121
[2017-02-22 15:35:20] elmorte : LocoPoco Chatocho: so you're alt-right of bitcoin?
[2017-02-22 15:35:22] dodic : short all the coins
[2017-02-22 15:35:24] mark121 : my knowledge of a troll has no relation to my skill, i hope
[2017-02-22 15:35:28] sleger : "mark121: u are very uninformed" <= this guy is "informed", someone told him future prices
[2017-02-22 15:35:30] mark121 : or does it
[2017-02-22 15:35:30] LocoPoco Chatocho : elmorte: :D
[2017-02-22 15:35:47] cookielito : WHY THE HELL IS SWAP SO LOW?
[2017-02-22 15:35:57] elmorte : cookielito: finex ded
[2017-02-22 15:36:03] cookielito : oh really?
[2017-02-22 15:36:08] elmorte : no
[2017-02-22 15:36:10] -_- : cookielito: people shorting to get paid the funding
[2017-02-22 15:36:12] mark121 : sleger, never stop being u
[2017-02-22 15:36:29] sleger : mark121: you dont know who is me though, you're a newb, just showed up
[2017-02-22 15:36:40] mark121 : ouch wrong again
[2017-02-22 15:36:48] sleger : cookielito: i just brough tthe price up again for you
[2017-02-22 15:36:49] mark121 : must be gettin old
[2017-02-22 15:36:57] mark121 : u tried this 3 or 4 weeks ago
[2017-02-22 15:37:00] odieoh : @locopoco chatocho, Are you the one who wrote this? Sounds like you. https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/52y27u/in_celebration_of_the_upcoming_devcon_2_id_like/
[2017-02-22 15:37:02] indelibleTrade : so buy. finex loading fine my side
[2017-02-22 15:37:14] Tetsuo : /foresight `LOOKS BAD`
[2017-02-22 15:37:38] herpinator : is finex ok? is it just api thats down?
[2017-02-22 15:38:03] cookielito : @sleger soon enough we will see the swap arise
[2017-02-22 15:38:20] sleger : cookielito: just helped : XBTUSD 32308 31256 0 1113.00
[2017-02-22 15:38:44] cookielito : sleger:
[2017-02-22 15:38:51] cookielito : We are just about in the same boat
[2017-02-22 15:38:58] sleger : i dont think so
[2017-02-22 15:39:05] dodic : arise chicken
[2017-02-22 15:39:11] cookielito : CHIKUN
[2017-02-22 15:40:07] InvalidUser : O christ the BTC-e crew is here
[2017-02-22 15:40:14] herpinator : lol
[2017-02-22 15:40:25] ross : Fine X down again??
[2017-02-22 15:40:41] LocoPoco Chatocho : InvalidUser: They come here to gamble away all their customers drug money
[2017-02-22 15:40:45] cookielito : InvalidUser: Relax
[2017-02-22 15:41:48] LocoPoco Chatocho : DDOS is by the #1 shorter getting nervous.
[2017-02-22 15:43:19] rapidgains : you fuck1ng know it
[2017-02-22 15:44:19] herpinator : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 15:44:22] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 14.79/85.21 Daily: 42.57/57.44 Weekly: 43.37/56.63 Monthly: 47.44/52.56
[2017-02-22 15:44:41] LocoPoco Chatocho : Stamp 1134
[2017-02-22 15:45:11] herpinator : combined orderbooks looking thin on buy side
[2017-02-22 15:45:14] sleger : when it reopens, all margin shorts will auto close
[2017-02-22 15:47:00] cryptobull : finex is up again
[2017-02-22 15:47:11] herpinator : ya w
[2017-02-22 15:47:16] herpinator : we back
[2017-02-22 15:47:29] .. : 130k JPY on flyer, for what it's worth
[2017-02-22 15:48:32] rapidgains : ddos dumps are so 2015
[2017-02-22 15:48:56] .. : lol yeh, could actually work by that time too
[2017-02-22 15:49:00] aguia7 : Go go bitcoin, to 1130 :)
[2017-02-22 15:49:05] rapidgains : this prob helped finex market buy 1130 lmao
[2017-02-22 15:50:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 150 @ 1154.30
[2017-02-22 15:51:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 12400 @ 7766.8
[2017-02-22 15:52:33] jzayy : what is realized pnl?? It's always negative
[2017-02-22 15:52:40] sleger : trade better
[2017-02-22 15:52:43] Gr33d : lol
[2017-02-22 15:52:52] jzayy : I am up in the trade lol.
[2017-02-22 15:53:00] jzayy : my unrealized pnl is 25%
[2017-02-22 15:53:07] sleger : fees
[2017-02-22 15:53:12] jzayy : oh ok
[2017-02-22 15:53:16] Gr33d : ... Well, you are only 'up' when you close it at profit.
[2017-02-22 15:53:25] Gr33d : Until then it doesn't count ;)
[2017-02-22 15:53:37] herpinator : ^
[2017-02-22 15:53:43] LocoPoco Chatocho : ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[2017-02-22 15:53:53] jzayy : so if your short do you gain interest?
[2017-02-22 15:53:54] herpinator : and you only profit from btc when you cash out to fiat