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[2017-02-22 05:34:16] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: I have buy orders all the way down to to 935 if we bet a break
[2017-02-22 05:34:50] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: ahh ok
[2017-02-22 05:34:51] Ugly_Old_Goat : Again, the key to sucess is money managment, not knowing where the mareet will go
[2017-02-22 05:35:21] Ugly_Old_Goat : The strategy is to win regarldless of where the market goes
[2017-02-22 05:35:55] MikeHunt : makes sense
[2017-02-22 05:35:58] Ugly_Old_Goat : Again I dpibled down at 730 , I would never double down here
[2017-02-22 05:36:09] Ugly_Old_Goat : At 730 I had over 200 btc
[2017-02-22 05:36:22] Ugly_Old_Goat : I now have about 110 btc
[2017-02-22 05:36:40] Ugly_Old_Goat : Earlier today I only had 80 btc
[2017-02-22 05:36:47] rapidtrades : that's some strong money management right there
[2017-02-22 05:36:55] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: what leverage is that on though?
[2017-02-22 05:37:01] rapidtrades : Martingale LOVES him
[2017-02-22 05:37:14] paper : res. turned support area on btc/euro
[2017-02-22 05:37:26] Ugly_Old_Goat : I covered my shorts on this dip. I am a big buyer lower. I am a seller at new highs
[2017-02-22 05:38:15] rapidtrades : sounds like a disaster waiting to happen
[2017-02-22 05:38:24] ThruTheFloor : Ugly_Old_Goat: You're short and long on the swap and futures right? Which is which?
[2017-02-22 05:38:38] micmix : Ugly_Old_Goat: would be funny to see how your "money management" works in bear market
[2017-02-22 05:38:38] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: I only trade cross. My liduidation is currently 815. On fools trade here with thin margin. I will clip you every time
[2017-02-22 05:39:02] Ugly_Old_Goat : ThruTheFloor: I was long Marcxh short perp
[2017-02-22 05:39:02] rapidtrades : 0.27 now 0.37 next SWEET
[2017-02-22 05:39:06] rapidtrades : pay up bishes
[2017-02-22 05:39:27] Ugly_Old_Goat : I am now only long March , looking to sell perp at 1127 or higher.
[2017-02-22 05:39:37] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: clip me?
[2017-02-22 05:39:40] j8 : you can thank okc for that high funding
[2017-02-22 05:40:08] arbitrage101 : okc has run out of usd
[2017-02-22 05:40:19] arbitrage101 : otherwise i would borrow more
[2017-02-22 05:40:22] MikeHunt : apparently okc is insolvent
[2017-02-22 05:40:30] narnarfromnarnia : arbitrage101: big shorts could get squeezed though, those are leveraged alot
[2017-02-22 05:40:30] rapidtrades : says who
[2017-02-22 05:40:32] narnarfromnarnia : old leverage
[2017-02-22 05:40:36] arbitrage101 : j8: you have position on okc?
[2017-02-22 05:40:38] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: wat
[2017-02-22 05:40:55] j8 : arbitrage101: yeah, i've reduced it quite a bit though
[2017-02-22 05:40:59] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: roger ver taking them to court, they didnt show, next time they dont show or pay up, they get auto-liquidated by HK court
[2017-02-22 05:41:09] arbitrage101 : j8: lol man, i increased quite a bit cuz of funding here
[2017-02-22 05:41:26] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: old news
[2017-02-22 05:41:26] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: Gonna be a good day for bears when that happens
[2017-02-22 05:41:28] arbitrage101 : juicy .37 is hard to pass up
[2017-02-22 05:41:35] j8 : definitely
[2017-02-22 05:41:53] Ugly_Old_Goat : I sold perp at 1127 and covered at11102, I have orders to go long at 1095, 1093 and lower
[2017-02-22 05:41:56] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: its not old, the 21 day clock started in december, Feb 13th it ran out
[2017-02-22 05:42:22] MikeHunt : that means expect to hear about it soon
[2017-02-22 05:42:24] MikeHunt : the verdict
[2017-02-22 05:42:53] ThruTheFloor : Ugly_Old_Goat: How did you know to sell right at the top?
[2017-02-22 05:43:22] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: 1150 was a major res. point
[2017-02-22 05:43:50] Nutella : this chat is like the sp500
[2017-02-22 05:44:03] arbitrage101 : ThruTheFloor: he got crystal ball of true seeing
[2017-02-22 05:44:06] Nutella : but with a lot of more poors then standards
[2017-02-22 05:44:15] MikeHunt : Nutella: hehe
[2017-02-22 05:44:52] Ugly_Old_Goat : I bot back the March I sold at 1040 1042 and 1022 at 1021 and 1025. So I am now long 106 btc march looking so sell perp and looking tgo go long more on any brak below 1100 but I do not expect this . This is ll the break I am expecting
[2017-02-22 05:45:45] Ugly_Old_Goat : I am also switching 5% of my btc into ltc
[2017-02-22 05:45:46] arbitrage101 : i suggest all traders buy it:
[2017-02-22 05:45:49] arbitrage101 : http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Crystal_Ball
[2017-02-22 05:45:51] rapidtrades : ur dip buying ass will be cracked soon goat
[2017-02-22 05:46:20] Ugly_Old_Goat : Ltc should have a nice rally because segwit will be approved on LTC
[2017-02-22 05:46:21] micmix : it's funny how the goat is never hear when he's wrong
[2017-02-22 05:46:31] micmix : * here
[2017-02-22 05:46:45] Ugly_Old_Goat : This iwill alsol inspiire btc to approve segwit
[2017-02-22 05:47:02] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: ltc seems to have been nose diving recently
[2017-02-22 05:47:04] rapidtrades : what exactly
[2017-02-22 05:47:15] micmix : just comes here to gloat, super annoying
[2017-02-22 05:47:27] rapidtrades : yeah goat u suck
[2017-02-22 05:47:30] Ugly_Old_Goat : micmix: Nolt so, I sold Dash an d got stopped out before the crash
[2017-02-22 05:47:42] Ugly_Old_Goat : That is only wrong rade I have made in a while
[2017-02-22 05:47:52] micmix : lol
[2017-02-22 05:48:32] j8 : i think your keyboard is broken goat
[2017-02-22 05:48:44] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: Do wjhat you want I dumped all my Ltc in July 2015 over .027 . I just recently started buying.
[2017-02-22 05:49:00] Ugly_Old_Goat : buying Ltec is like shooting fish in a barrell
[2017-02-22 05:49:05] ThatCEOGuy : -75%, going back up,...
[2017-02-22 05:49:26] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: prob test 1150 again, double top then down
[2017-02-22 05:49:38] Ugly_Old_Goat : It is a no brainer. You just need patience to wait an buy when it is the time. This is the time
[2017-02-22 05:51:43] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: why not wait til btc at 1127 then do it?
[2017-02-22 05:52:19] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: Do what?
[2017-02-22 05:52:25] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: buy ltc
[2017-02-22 05:52:35] MikeHunt : if btc is going up again, ltc will go down
[2017-02-22 05:52:58] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: Wrong assumption
[2017-02-22 05:53:12] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: forgot to add "?"
[2017-02-22 05:53:31] Ugly_Old_Goat : Btc will pull ltc up .
[2017-02-22 05:53:51] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: what makes u think it ill be different this time?
[2017-02-22 05:54:31] Ugly_Old_Goat : Because btc rallied and ltc has stppped goingdown
[2017-02-22 05:54:40] Ugly_Old_Goat : Plus look at long germ
[2017-02-22 05:55:43] Ugly_Old_Goat : Again, I buy dogs. I bot Monero under 2 in Novermber 2015 long before it took off. I sold way to early but made a bimd;e/ Same pattern for Ltc
[2017-02-22 05:56:10] Ugly_Old_Goat : Timing is everything . It is time to by LTC
[2017-02-22 05:57:01] Ugly_Old_Goat : very few rea; realise that in 30-60 days ltc will pass segwit
[2017-02-22 05:57:16] Ugly_Old_Goat : 'That will set the stage for btc to pass segwit
[2017-02-22 05:57:21] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: polo still best place to get it?
[2017-02-22 05:57:34] Ugly_Old_Goat : Which is truly bulllish.
[2017-02-22 05:58:07] Ugly_Old_Goat : Polo or btce. I bot here at 346
[2017-02-22 05:58:28] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: doesnt it expire here in 2 days?
[2017-02-22 05:58:32] Ugly_Old_Goat : I put 55 of my btc into LTC
[2017-02-22 05:58:42] Ugly_Old_Goat : 5%
[2017-02-22 05:59:14] etoque : segwit just 20%
[2017-02-22 05:59:22] etoque : if it never integrate it might be doom no?
[2017-02-22 05:59:29] Ugly_Old_Goat : Yes, but I took a flyer. I do not like the weekly expiire but this one looks good
[2017-02-22 05:59:38] Ugly_Old_Goat : Low rish, hihg potential;
[2017-02-22 06:00:00] MikeHunt : apparently if it nots gonna get implemented charlie lee will force the issue with miners
[2017-02-22 06:00:05] Ugly_Old_Goat : etoque: Look at ltc
[2017-02-22 06:00:06] MikeHunt : which could cause dumping
[2017-02-22 06:00:17] Ugly_Old_Goat : 'segwit gaining expoentially every day
[2017-02-22 06:00:27] Ugly_Old_Goat : It will set the table for btc
[2017-02-22 06:00:42] etoque : chart in usd is delicious also
[2017-02-22 06:00:56] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: how much % per day?
[2017-02-22 06:01:11] Ugly_Old_Goat : I should cause huge spec in btc taking it dvery high. When it si realiized, sell thenews
[2017-02-22 06:01:30] Ugly_Old_Goat : That shoud to btic , probaly in July
[2017-02-22 06:01:47] etoque : could it be lower ?
[2017-02-22 06:01:54] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: ??
[2017-02-22 06:02:13] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: u said segwit was gaining ground im just wondering how much % per day
[2017-02-22 06:02:42] MikeHunt : http://litecoinblockhalf.com/segwit.php
[2017-02-22 06:03:00] Ugly_Old_Goat : I always buy too early, I stareted buying btc after the break at 876 and bot alll the way down to 715 in March
[2017-02-22 06:03:15] MikeHunt : ahh
[2017-02-22 06:03:39] Ugly_Old_Goat : Chjeck out cryptoverse . He covers it almost every day
[2017-02-22 06:03:46] Sinterklaas : Ugly_Old_Goat: ahhhh
[2017-02-22 06:03:49] etoque : but I see ltc chart is neat lol
[2017-02-22 06:04:00] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: i will, thank u for ur insights btw
[2017-02-22 06:04:21] Ugly_Old_Goat : It is a no brainer
[2017-02-22 06:04:50] Ugly_Old_Goat : People are buhing btc now with all the hype
[2017-02-22 06:05:42] Ugly_Old_Goat : I buy when blood is int the streets alike btc at 715 when I did double down. and dogs like ltc which has good fundamentals
[2017-02-22 06:06:15] rapidtrades : im short LTC bish
[2017-02-22 06:06:16] rapidtrades : suck on that!
[2017-02-22 06:06:36] Ugly_Old_Goat : Again, I think ltc is dead long term, but it is a true blockchain , the fundamental are good and so are the technicals
[2017-02-22 06:06:42] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: dude
[2017-02-22 06:06:48] arbitrage101 : ltc price already rock bottom
[2017-02-22 06:07:02] Ugly_Old_Goat : Again, I recoomend 5% of btc balance be put in to ltc
[2017-02-22 06:07:12] Ugly_Old_Goat : I have been veryh successful trading ltc
[2017-02-22 06:07:37] rapidtrades : stop trying to pump LTC
[2017-02-22 06:07:50] rapidtrades : 1. its too big of a market for that 2. ur a nobody
[2017-02-22 06:07:50] Ugly_Old_Goat : arbitrage101: Exactl;y, Use market order or you midght miss it
[2017-02-22 06:07:54] aandy : what happened to CEO
[2017-02-22 06:08:03] rapidtrades : ded
[2017-02-22 06:08:05] arbitrage101 : Ugly_Old_Goat: not saying one should buy either
[2017-02-22 06:08:25] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: his liq was 1200 ?
[2017-02-22 06:08:29] Ugly_Old_Goat : rapidtrades: I dnot' pump. If you think I am wrong fade me and sell it
[2017-02-22 06:08:44] Ugly_Old_Goat : I have given this place the best possible adviice
[2017-02-22 06:08:47] rapidtrades : sold it last week
[2017-02-22 06:08:49] Ugly_Old_Goat : Take it or leave it
[2017-02-22 06:09:09] aandy : taking
[2017-02-22 06:09:22] Ugly_Old_Goat : Those that listen and follow me knwo I do not bs
[2017-02-22 06:09:27] Ugly_Old_Goat : I do not pump
[2017-02-22 06:09:44] Ugly_Old_Goat : But I know how to trade and win
[2017-02-22 06:10:28] Ugly_Old_Goat : rapidtrades: That is when I bot most of mine so everyone here can buy cheaper. You are a fool
[2017-02-22 06:11:13] Ugly_Old_Goat : rapidtrades: Not worth my time or time of day . Just an arrogant fool
[2017-02-22 06:11:37] MrRGnome : Ugly_Old_Goat: you're so full of hot air you must be 60 thousand feet up.
[2017-02-22 06:12:07] Ugly_Old_Goat : MrRGnome: You need to take you dick out of rapidtrades ass
[2017-02-22 06:12:23] MrRGnome : If you think I have any kind words for rapidtrades you haven't been around for long.
[2017-02-22 06:12:57] Ugly_Old_Goat : You don't have to love him to fuck him in the ass
[2017-02-22 06:13:09] rapidtrades : wtf
[2017-02-22 06:13:50] Ugly_Old_Goat : Looks like rapidtrades just had an orgasm
[2017-02-22 06:13:51] rapidtrades : That's one of the gayest things I've read this year
[2017-02-22 06:14:00] ThruTheFloor : Wow, this is getting awkward, and kinda homoerotic
[2017-02-22 06:14:07] Sinterklaas : what would NogAnOo do?
[2017-02-22 06:14:26] MrRGnome : Just a little. What do you say rapid, want to get steamy in a more private channel?
[2017-02-22 06:14:51] rapidtrades : yes, with ur mothers
[2017-02-22 06:14:55] MrRGnome : hawt
[2017-02-22 06:15:08] ThruTheFloor : How many mothers does Mr Gnome have?
[2017-02-22 06:15:24] rapidtrades : his and goat's mom
[2017-02-22 06:15:58] ThruTheFloor : And you want them to watch while Mr Gnome f ucks you in the ass?
[2017-02-22 06:16:15] MrRGnome : I've never understood the fascination with mother fucking, my mothers a god damn cow. If you want her she's all yours
[2017-02-22 06:16:28] ThruTheFloor : I guess some people need an audience
[2017-02-22 06:16:43] ThruTheFloor : MrRGnome: Can I get the sloppy seconds?
[2017-02-22 06:16:52] MrRGnome : Man, get that train going.
[2017-02-22 06:16:59] MrRGnome : She deserves a fun night
[2017-02-22 06:21:39] ThruTheFloor : 2h MACD looks bad, everything else looks bull. What do?
[2017-02-22 06:22:14] Ahhere : ThruTheFloor: it's bitcoin default is up
[2017-02-22 06:23:01] paper : it was never written in stone that we'd get our beloved pullback. the contrary. ppl were saying last week that this move up would likely be quite direct
[2017-02-22 06:23:54] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: u could sell off some contracts
[2017-02-22 06:23:56] MikeHunt : do some longing
[2017-02-22 06:23:59] MikeHunt : BTFD
[2017-02-22 06:24:00] MikeHunt : etc.
[2017-02-22 06:25:26] Alignment : everyone seems bull here who's losing money then
[2017-02-22 06:25:51] MikeHunt : Alignment: my h17 short from jan is screwed
[2017-02-22 06:25:58] MikeHunt : but earning money longing on perp the dips
[2017-02-22 06:27:21] MikeHunt : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 06:27:24] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 62.02/37.98 Daily: 45.13/54.87 Weekly: 43.52/56.48 Monthly: 47.55/52.45
[2017-02-22 06:27:53] MikeHunt : /price
[2017-02-22 06:27:53] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1113.5 (-0.12%)
[2017-02-22 06:27:53] trollbot : Bitstamp: 1112.50 (0.42%)
[2017-02-22 06:27:54] trollbot : GDAX: 1119.99 (-0.36%)
[2017-02-22 06:27:54] trollbot : Kraken: 1114.56 (-0.07%)
[2017-02-22 06:27:54] trollbot : itBit: 1107.56 (-0.34%)
[2017-02-22 06:27:54] trollbot : OKCoin: 1090.61 (0.06%)
[2017-02-22 06:28:12] paper : which ATH are you guys going to do breakout plays on? bitmex itself? stamp? both? neither?
[2017-02-22 06:28:41] MikeHunt : japan seems to lead finex which leads stamp
[2017-02-22 06:28:53] paper : i try to avoid breakout plays generally. especially on a brutal exchange like this one
[2017-02-22 06:28:59] paper : but might make an exception
[2017-02-22 06:34:37] paper : if this site was a cfd i'd be in heaven. then no crashing the price around plus you get a badass site
[2017-02-22 06:35:25] paper : but alas, we adapt :)
[2017-02-22 06:37:01] paper : liquidity spikes strike fear in my heart
[2017-02-22 06:42:10] Ahhere : Well that was kind of a false alarm
[2017-02-22 06:42:25] Ahhere : Have to set my alarms further away at night.
[2017-02-22 06:42:33] ThruTheFloor : So, are we not crashing tonight then?
[2017-02-22 06:42:44] Ahhere : It would appear ...
[2017-02-22 06:42:46] Ahhere : Not
[2017-02-22 06:42:52] MikeHunt : looks like 1125 again
[2017-02-22 06:42:56] MikeHunt : maybe 1150
[2017-02-22 06:43:01] MikeHunt : double top perhaps then drop
[2017-02-22 06:43:21] MikeHunt : hopefully
[2017-02-22 06:43:28] paper : well, it's pretty characteristic of btc rallies to have pullback be few and far between. more like a staircases than anything
[2017-02-22 06:43:29] Ahhere : I'd like a few dayss here to consolidate tbh
[2017-02-22 06:43:39] paper : agreed
[2017-02-22 06:43:48] rangle : my BTC transfer is still unconfirmed, wait for me :(
[2017-02-22 06:43:48] aethlios : ATH closer and closer. the most important breakout of the last 4 years, my the D-Day.
[2017-02-22 06:44:01] aethlios : like the D-Day.
[2017-02-22 06:44:23] rapidtrades : stay away greek boy
[2017-02-22 06:44:27] Ahhere : So many people shorting ath as a hedge
[2017-02-22 06:44:37] Rado : aethlios: what is the ATH?
[2017-02-22 06:44:41] paper : china breaking regional highs soon should help fuel that.
[2017-02-22 06:45:07] paper : especially since the west already broke western ones
[2017-02-22 06:45:12] aethlios : is is the ATHens code (greek capital city) and also all time high
[2017-02-22 06:45:32] Sinterklaas : aethlios: ;)
[2017-02-22 06:46:03] aethlios : rapidtrades: I am earning the funding in swap, hedging btc.
[2017-02-22 06:46:10] Alignment : aethlios: u going long on breakout?
[2017-02-22 06:47:02] aethlios : no i will go long if etf rejected and buy the bottom, but don't expect more than 200 usd dump at best, i am earning the funding now.
[2017-02-22 06:47:30] aethlios : i have bought ltc at 4,00 for a rally.
[2017-02-22 06:47:46] aethlios : so cheaper lower risk option.
[2017-02-22 06:51:08] Rado : funding is not bad
[2017-02-22 06:51:49] Alignment : how much does it pay
[2017-02-22 06:51:56] Alignment : cents no?
[2017-02-22 06:52:20] Rado : 0.27% in 5 hr and then anotehr 0.375% in 13 hr
[2017-02-22 06:53:19] Alignment : so 67$ per 18h for 10k usd
[2017-02-22 06:53:54] Alignment : not that bad
[2017-02-22 06:54:06] ThruTheFloor : Is anyone else worried about the MACD on 2H?
[2017-02-22 06:54:16] Alignment : can you get this funding thing easily?
[2017-02-22 06:54:38] Rado : Alignment: it's not 10k USD that you invest
[2017-02-22 06:54:58] Alignment : Rado: its what?
[2017-02-22 06:55:06] Alignment : the btc equivalent?
[2017-02-22 06:55:19] Rado : you invest only 0.1038 XBT for 10k contracts
[2017-02-22 06:56:05] Ahhere : ThruTheFloor: I'm worried that you are worried
[2017-02-22 06:56:33] Alignment : Rado: isnt there a way for me to do 67$ per 18h with 10btc?
[2017-02-22 06:56:48] Rado : Alignment: yes you can
[2017-02-22 06:56:57] Alignment : Rado: how
[2017-02-22 06:57:07] Rado : short 1 mill contracts
[2017-02-22 06:57:24] Rado : actually the risk limit will not allow you
[2017-02-22 06:57:26] Alignment : Rado: yeah but i take an active trading position
[2017-02-22 06:57:36] Rado : of course
[2017-02-22 06:57:40] Alignment : i thought i could just play the bank and earn interest
[2017-02-22 06:57:48] Alignment : isnt that what funding is?
[2017-02-22 06:57:50] Rado : there is no free lunch remember
[2017-02-22 06:57:56] ThruTheFloor : Ahhere: Now what?
[2017-02-22 06:57:57] Alignment : for banks there is
[2017-02-22 06:58:04] Rado : no
[2017-02-22 06:58:09] Rado : they have rsik
[2017-02-22 06:58:16] Alignment : the socialize the losses
[2017-02-22 06:59:06] Alignment : holding btc in your wallet still the best move for me
[2017-02-22 06:59:30] Rado : the best way to earn the funding is if you think BTC will go down and you will short anyway
[2017-02-22 07:00:14] Ahhere : Alignment: 10btc at 100x would net you 2700 at next funding until you get liquidated cos market moved up 10$
[2017-02-22 07:00:39] Alignment : ive some fiat left i had sold the last top at 1073 and didnt buy back because greed
[2017-02-22 07:00:46] Papou : what determines the funding rate again?
[2017-02-22 07:00:49] Alignment : now i m wondering what to do with it
[2017-02-22 07:01:42] Alignment : i dont trade on bitmex too many complexities for me with ADL and funding this is for pro
[2017-02-22 07:01:55] Alignment : i just want to go leveraged long x3 or x5 and have nice profit
[2017-02-22 07:02:09] Sinterklaas : Alignment: ahaha, i sold half my btc at the first pboc dip btc for fiat, and now i don't buy back because of ego. ;)
[2017-02-22 07:02:48] Alignment : Sinterklaas: i ve meditated earlier and cleaned my resistance and bought back a little
[2017-02-22 07:03:32] Sinterklaas : at that moment i was afraid it would drop to 400 or something.. so i thought i sell half
[2017-02-22 07:03:34] Sinterklaas : fuck
[2017-02-22 07:03:58] Alignment : Sinterklaas: i was hoping for 788
[2017-02-22 07:04:10] Alignment : Sinterklaas: lesson is when you can buy back bitcoins with profit always do
[2017-02-22 07:04:19] Sinterklaas : yup
[2017-02-22 07:04:24] Alignment : i had actually sold at 99% of top lol
[2017-02-22 07:04:35] Sinterklaas : thats fine
[2017-02-22 07:04:44] Alignment : im getting good for selling on top
[2017-02-22 07:04:46] Papou : vin i thought u were fiinished with bitmex lol
[2017-02-22 07:05:15] Alignment : im short ETH and XMR
[2017-02-22 07:05:30] Alignment : maybe i should short MAID too
[2017-02-22 07:06:29] Alignment : i like easy trades
[2017-02-22 07:08:42] ThruTheFloor : Guys, what happened to ATH?
[2017-02-22 07:08:48] ThruTheFloor : It looks like we're dropping again
[2017-02-22 07:11:02] Lybs : this is consolidation
[2017-02-22 07:11:17] Lybs : Relax
[2017-02-22 07:12:03] Sinterklaas : Alignment: short ZEC
[2017-02-22 07:12:14] Sinterklaas : like taking candy from a baby
[2017-02-22 07:12:29] zanza : Alignment: becasuie you are a gambler
[2017-02-22 07:12:34] ThruTheFloor : Lybs: I'm biting my fingers raw, there's blood
[2017-02-22 07:15:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECH17`: sell 1 @ 0.025267
[2017-02-22 07:15:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECH17`: sell 40 @ 0.025214
[2017-02-22 07:16:12] ThruTheFloor : O SHIT
[2017-02-22 07:25:47] ThruTheFloor : Fuck it, closed my long. Going short, 50x.
[2017-02-22 07:29:16] zanza : good luck on your gamble ThruTheFloor
[2017-02-22 07:31:26] Tetsuo : 0.375 in 12 h, suck on that longs
[2017-02-22 07:31:47] ThruTheFloor : ARGH THIS IS KILLING ME
[2017-02-22 07:39:18] etoque : lol
[2017-02-22 07:39:25] etoque : that why I stopped now
[2017-02-22 07:59:57] Sinterklaas : short ZEC
[2017-02-22 08:00:32] Sinterklaas : its a scam coin with zero usage, just got hyped very proffesional
[2017-02-22 08:00:52] Sinterklaas : its a bouncing dead lyon
[2017-02-22 08:06:09] RoftheN : ZEC is already dumped. Will get some action before the halving in 3 and half years
[2017-02-22 08:06:25] Tetsuo : Sinterklaas: i wouldn´t short any alt right now, at least not against BTC
[2017-02-22 08:06:59] Sinterklaas : RoftheN: @Tetsuo .77 btc since yesterday
[2017-02-22 08:07:11] Sinterklaas : but yeah i see your point
[2017-02-22 08:07:46] Tetsuo : Sinterklaas: i wouldn´t short any alt right now, at least not against BTC
[2017-02-22 08:10:20] Tetsuo : ups
[2017-02-22 08:23:48] ThruTheFloor : Man, if one of you had some technical insights or insider info, now would be the time to share.
[2017-02-22 08:24:05] ThruTheFloor : Consolidation or calm before the drop to 900...
[2017-02-22 08:42:18] Cryptonary : /wall
[2017-02-22 08:42:19] trollbot : BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1117.8 => [2626 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1147.8 Bids: 1087.3 => [1251 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1117.4
[2017-02-22 08:42:19] trollbot : BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1111.81 => [1190 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1141.98 Bids: 1081.12 => [527 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1111.50
[2017-02-22 08:43:00] ThatCEOGuy : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 08:43:02] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 31.83/68.17 Daily: 43.78/56.22 Weekly: 43.36/56.65 Monthly: 47.56/52.45
[2017-02-22 08:47:01] DorianWhack-A-Moto : /joke
[2017-02-22 08:47:04] trollbot : My daughters favorite joke... What’s the difference between bird flu and swine flu? One requires tweetment, and the other requires oinkment.
[2017-02-22 08:47:27] ThruTheFloor : Lame
[2017-02-22 08:47:30] ThruTheFloor : /joke
[2017-02-22 08:47:35] trollbot : Donald Trump - "I'm not orange!" "Impeach."
[2017-02-22 08:47:42] aandy : ThatCEOGuy: whas the update
[2017-02-22 08:47:49] aandy : did u close some of ur position?
[2017-02-22 08:47:54] i3 : consolidation or we go down?
[2017-02-22 08:48:25] ThatCEOGuy : aandy: Not yet. At -75% at the moment, also slightly inebriated
[2017-02-22 08:48:36] ThruTheFloor : i3: Yes
[2017-02-22 08:48:39] ThruTheFloor : /joke
[2017-02-22 08:48:42] trollbot : Today I gave my seat to a blind lady on the bus, That's how I lost my job as a bus driver.
[2017-02-22 08:51:24] InvalidUser : (:
[2017-02-22 08:51:44] Tetsuo : we are going nowhere but down
[2017-02-22 08:51:46] i3 : ThruTheFloor: consolidation 1120?
[2017-02-22 08:52:03] ThruTheFloor : i3: Sure, why not?
[2017-02-22 08:52:18] i3 : I expect 1140-1150 today
[2017-02-22 08:55:06] JoMamustani : Hey, can sum one explain to me why there are 2 charts with different values for XBT? One is labeled March 31 and the other says perpetual swaps
[2017-02-22 08:55:34] ThruTheFloor : March 31 is a futures contract that expires... March 31st
[2017-02-22 08:55:46] ThruTheFloor : That's why the price is usually higher
[2017-02-22 08:56:20] JoMamustani : does the March 31 offer any benefit over the standard?
[2017-02-22 08:56:40] ThruTheFloor : JoMamustani: You can make money off the spread
[2017-02-22 08:57:31] JoMamustani : How?
[2017-02-22 08:58:14] .. : /price
[2017-02-22 08:58:15] trollbot : Bitstamp: 1100.00 (-1.12%)
[2017-02-22 08:58:15] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1111.3 (-0.2%)
[2017-02-22 08:58:15] trollbot : GDAX: 1112.47 (-0.67%)
[2017-02-22 08:58:16] trollbot : Kraken: 1107.14 (-0.67%)
[2017-02-22 08:58:16] trollbot : itBit: 1108.95 (0.13%)
[2017-02-22 08:58:17] trollbot : OKCoin: 1091.63 (0.09%)
[2017-02-22 08:58:29] ThruTheFloor : Looks like 1150 aint happening
[2017-02-22 09:01:04] paper : sure it will
[2017-02-22 09:01:28] i3 : ThruTheFloor: 1120-1125 easy I guess
[2017-02-22 09:01:30] paper : ppl don't buy dips just to never sell them
[2017-02-22 09:01:37] i3 : if we stay above 1100
[2017-02-22 09:02:00] ThruTheFloor : i3: We already dipped below
[2017-02-22 09:02:14] i3 : support is 1080
[2017-02-22 09:02:18] ThruTheFloor : paper: We might bit 1150 after we visit 960
[2017-02-22 09:02:20] i3 : so it's up to your views
[2017-02-22 09:02:28] paper : we went back and forth across 1000 and many other increments of 100 over and over. it's normal
[2017-02-22 09:03:00] paper : ThruTheFloor: lol. good luck w/ that
[2017-02-22 09:04:40] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: Sounds great :D
[2017-02-22 09:04:59] ThruTheFloor : WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE
[2017-02-22 09:05:03] ThruTheFloor : THE END IS NIGH
[2017-02-22 09:05:20] BarefootFlash : Hahaha
[2017-02-22 09:05:20] ThruTheFloor : SELL YOUR BTC, $13 BY TOMORROW
[2017-02-22 09:05:26] ThruTheFloor : YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
[2017-02-22 09:05:27] BarefootFlash : Someday ;)
[2017-02-22 09:06:00] RoftheN : 13?!!?!
[2017-02-22 09:06:14] BarefootFlash : Oh dang, payday was nice
[2017-02-22 09:06:15] ThruTheFloor : RoftheN: I SAID THE END IS NIGH
[2017-02-22 09:06:19] ThruTheFloor : THIS IS NO JOKE
[2017-02-22 09:06:21] paper : best trader i know of is crossing his fingers for not much lower than 1080 but concedes that dips are bought w/ open arms. he bought on last trip to lower 900's and doesn't see it returning
[2017-02-22 09:06:24] RoftheN : NIGH?
[2017-02-22 09:06:47] paper : thus, he might not get the chance
[2017-02-22 09:06:50] RoftheN : ~Why would it go below 1000 before ETF is rejected?
[2017-02-22 09:07:17] ThruTheFloor : RoftheN: WHY WOULD IT GO ABOVE 1000 BEFORE ETF IS APPROVED?
[2017-02-22 09:07:26] RoftheN : In anticipation
[2017-02-22 09:07:27] RoftheN : oh
[2017-02-22 09:07:28] BarefootFlash : Maybe if people start thinking it's going to get rejected
[2017-02-22 09:07:30] RoftheN : I guess I answered it
[2017-02-22 09:07:39] BarefootFlash : *more people
[2017-02-22 09:08:00] ThruTheFloor : ARGH
[2017-02-22 09:10:33] Cryptonary : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 09:10:36] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 57.43/42.57 Daily: 42.91/57.09 Weekly: 43.39/56.61 Monthly: 47.56/52.44
[2017-02-22 09:10:48] paper : in other words, the ship has sailed for buying the 900's. he told me to and i slept on it. so you're not alone ;)
[2017-02-22 09:11:35] paper : hasn't even broken 1100 yet and even if it does it might not be by much
[2017-02-22 09:12:02] paper : you had to act quick to get that buy. orders in advance
[2017-02-22 09:13:00] paper : but whatev, i bought during crash to 160 :))
[2017-02-22 09:16:29] BarefootFlash : Payday gonna be nice today! :D
[2017-02-22 09:17:02] BarefootFlash : Just waiting.
[2017-02-22 09:17:04] paper : what, by trying to short a bull mkt? that's amateur shit
[2017-02-22 09:17:25] ThruTheFloor : What do?
[2017-02-22 09:17:38] BarefootFlash : Nah, got stuck in a short too early, so just sitting on it for now
[2017-02-22 09:17:48] BarefootFlash : We'll see what happens
[2017-02-22 09:19:10] paper : i've made and lost money shorting bull mkts but i avoid it now in an attempt to have some degree of discipline b/c it's a shit mindset to even have it on your radar
[2017-02-22 09:19:56] BarefootFlash : Wasn't on purpose, but gonna ride it out for now
[2017-02-22 09:20:06] ThruTheFloor : How did you do on accident>
[2017-02-22 09:20:09] BarefootFlash : Got out of a long way too early
[2017-02-22 09:20:33] BarefootFlash : Set my sell limit too low when it spiked a few days ago
[2017-02-22 09:20:35] paper : haha, rly? i placed a small mkt order earlier when i was trying to place a limit order :))
[2017-02-22 09:20:51] i3 : 1125 @noon CET
[2017-02-22 09:20:53] paper : leave multi-tasking to the women i suppose
[2017-02-22 09:20:56] i3 : (hope)
[2017-02-22 09:21:16] BarefootFlash : paper: I was sleeping, haha
[2017-02-22 09:21:43] paper : BarefootFlash: you trade in your sleep? or was it an order you'd set up
[2017-02-22 09:22:58] BarefootFlash : set up, yeah
[2017-02-22 09:23:26] BarefootFlash : When everything basically stopped moving for like a day, around 1060
[2017-02-22 09:23:48] BarefootFlash : Before the spike up to 1075 then 1100
[2017-02-22 09:24:52] BarefootFlash : paper: Oh dang, actually, now that I look at it, I've actually made back almost all of what I'm out from shorting...
[2017-02-22 09:24:58] BarefootFlash : On trading fees...
[2017-02-22 09:26:07] paper : i'm pretty new to mex. you can't literally trade fees here can you (there were fee tokens on mcxnow that are sort of like bfx tokens)
[2017-02-22 09:26:28] BarefootFlash : Crap. After the next two funding sessions, I'll be up from where I shorted...
[2017-02-22 09:26:37] BarefootFlash : That's freaking crazy...
[2017-02-22 09:26:52] narnarfromnarnia : where did you short from?
[2017-02-22 09:27:21] BarefootFlash : People trading on margins either pay or get fees, based on how far away and on which side of the index prices we're on
[2017-02-22 09:27:28] BarefootFlash : (as far as I've gathered)
[2017-02-22 09:27:29] JoMamustani : So the March 31 contract doesn't have swap fees?
[2017-02-22 09:27:33] BarefootFlash : Rights
[2017-02-22 09:27:36] BarefootFlash : Right*
[2017-02-22 09:27:40] Ahhere : MBGA
[2017-02-22 09:27:41] BarefootFlash : Only perp
[2017-02-22 09:28:28] BarefootFlash : narnarfromnarnia: Started at 1075, moved up to 1086 after the two knives I caught yesterday and the day before
[2017-02-22 09:28:39] JoMamustani : So why would anyone trade in perpetual swaps when March 31 eliminates those fees?
[2017-02-22 09:29:01] BarefootFlash : JoMamustani: Different reasons, I'm not sure of all of them though
[2017-02-22 09:29:36] BarefootFlash : I'm not anywhere near an expert.
[2017-02-22 09:30:10] JoMamustani : @BarefootFlash am I, am trying to learn, alot of this stuff is still way above my head
[2017-02-22 09:30:23] BarefootFlash : JoMamustani: Dude, same here
[2017-02-22 09:30:53] BarefootFlash : I've been able to glean a bit from the OG's though. They know a lot
[2017-02-22 09:31:54] JoMamustani : Only thing I can see is that the March 31 has an expiry date, which means that any positions that are open by then will be closed automatically
[2017-02-22 09:32:05] BarefootFlash : Right, there's that
[2017-02-22 09:32:44] BarefootFlash : A lot of the people who seem to know what they're doing use mar31 and perp together, to hedge
[2017-02-22 09:33:11] JoMamustani : BarefootFlash: yeah I still don't get how that works
[2017-02-22 09:33:30] paper : trading is like for sadomasochists
[2017-02-22 09:33:35] BarefootFlash : I'm not sure if people do this, but one idea I had was to keep a long- or mid-term position on one and do short-term trades on the other
[2017-02-22 09:33:42] BarefootFlash : paper: ++
[2017-02-22 09:33:44] JoMamustani : paper: I agree
[2017-02-22 09:33:47] BarefootFlash : paper: +
[2017-02-22 09:33:50] paper : i want consolidation but i hate it more than anything, for example
[2017-02-22 09:34:06] BarefootFlash : What is that? Stabalization?
[2017-02-22 09:34:07] paper : also, the whole barely ever sleeping when shit is getting real part
[2017-02-22 09:34:17] BarefootFlash : Oh dude, for realz
[2017-02-22 09:34:26] BarefootFlash : mos def
[2017-02-22 09:34:35] paper : BarefootFlash: yeah, when price levels out so that it doesn't just crash, basically. it can go on for days or longer
[2017-02-22 09:34:49] BarefootFlash : Why do you like that?
[2017-02-22 09:35:34] JoMamustani : I can't stay all day looking at stuff, my brain cirtuits will fry, I simply look at the pattern and make a prediction, put a stop loss and take profit limits and be done with it
[2017-02-22 09:35:34] paper : BarefootFlash: b/c it's necessary. you're not gonna go up more than a few hundred bucks or so w/o taking a breather first
[2017-02-22 09:36:05] paper : otherwise we'd just be pumping and dumping all the time and there would never be a 10kusd btc
[2017-02-22 09:36:09] BarefootFlash : paper: Ah, for the break?
[2017-02-22 09:36:23] BarefootFlash : Ah yeah, of course
[2017-02-22 09:36:36] BarefootFlash : So we can (maybe) actually start using it more
[2017-02-22 09:36:37] paper : do you mean break like "rest" or break like "breakout"?
[2017-02-22 09:36:51] BarefootFlash : Oh dang, yeah, haha, rest
[2017-02-22 09:37:46] paper : yeah, the rest is consolidating. sometimes it can be in a broad range after a big move up or down, but it's generally just the price bouncing around in a range before resuming the trend. in this case, resuming the bull trend ofc
[2017-02-22 09:38:29] BarefootFlash : Ahh, ok
[2017-02-22 09:38:36] paper : so in a nutshell, consolidation is what prevents crashing and allows for sky-high prices
[2017-02-22 09:39:00] BarefootFlash : So basically the horizontal market, right?
[2017-02-22 09:39:25] paper : yeah. you're looking at it right now :)
[2017-02-22 09:39:32] BarefootFlash : Sweet
[2017-02-22 09:39:42] BarefootFlash : That all makes sense, thanks
[2017-02-22 09:40:13] paper : np
[2017-02-22 09:41:25] JoMamustani : paper: so is it possible to have a stop market and take profit limit on the same order?
[2017-02-22 09:42:14] BarefootFlash : JoMamustani: Make sure to do stop limits, not stop markets
[2017-02-22 09:42:37] JoMamustani : In other words, I open a position, then add a take profit and stop limits to it?
[2017-02-22 09:42:40] BarefootFlash : You can set both at the same time
[2017-02-22 09:42:47] paper : not that i know of. i'm new to this specific exchange. i do things separately but i can see how it would be beneficial to tie things all into an order so the system treats's it as order-specific
[2017-02-22 09:43:13] BarefootFlash : As far as I can tell, you have to put them in separately
[2017-02-22 09:43:30] BarefootFlash : But as long as the contract size matches, it shouldn't matter
[2017-02-22 09:44:25] JoMamustani : right
[2017-02-22 09:44:34] JoMamustani : okay I guess still need to learn
[2017-02-22 09:44:34] paper : this exchange is unlike any i've used yet and is more complex than most, too. it can take a while to learn the nuances of an exchange
[2017-02-22 09:45:01] JoMamustani : Yeah it is complex, but the 100x leverage is very enticing
[2017-02-22 09:45:31] BarefootFlash : Also there's not a lot of the conveniences of say a stock exchange, but I've found some work arounds that act pretty similarly
[2017-02-22 09:45:52] paper : i've never used a derivatives exchange that has its traders impact the price
[2017-02-22 09:46:13] BarefootFlash : What do you mean?
[2017-02-22 09:46:21] BarefootFlash : trading fees?
[2017-02-22 09:46:29] paper : (the other type is called CDF)
[2017-02-22 09:47:26] paper : no, some exchanges allow you to simply speculate on the value of an asset w/o the actual asset being traded at all there to any extent
[2017-02-22 09:47:44] BarefootFlash : Hm, ok
[2017-02-22 09:47:50] JoMamustani : mkay
[2017-02-22 09:47:56] paper : so, for example, if you dumped 20 million btc, it wouldn't cause a liquidity spike. each coin would sell for same price
[2017-02-22 09:48:07] BarefootFlash : Ohhhh, ko
[2017-02-22 09:48:10] BarefootFlash : I can see that
[2017-02-22 09:48:21] BarefootFlash : Right, I can see the difference dthere
[2017-02-22 09:48:51] elmorte : paper: then who would be the counter party?
[2017-02-22 09:48:53] JoMamustani : Isn't that because the market capitalization for BTC is not as large as forex? So naturally whales have a greater impact on the prices?
[2017-02-22 09:49:45] BarefootFlash : I would imagine something to do with the fact that btc has value because of its backers. Normal fiat has value because of the country that backs it.
[2017-02-22 09:49:55] BarefootFlash : backers/holders
[2017-02-22 09:50:10] Phoenix.Ritt : paper: cfd
[2017-02-22 09:51:06] BarefootFlash : Contract for Difference, interesting
[2017-02-22 09:51:10] paper : elmorte: i'm not an expert in cfd's (thx phoenix) by any means but the exchanges have liquidity providers and of course charge fees. not sure on their business model.
[2017-02-22 09:51:48] elmorte : ok
[2017-02-22 09:52:20] paper : for example, btcc is supposedly a liquidity provider for simplefx and thus the price is pretty similar. just like how the price here is similar to the kaijun (sp?) index exchanges
[2017-02-22 09:52:52] paper : but yeah, i'm no expert, just sharing that w/ you
[2017-02-22 09:54:42] JoMamustani : I guess at 100x leverage there is not need for a stop loss limit, because the margin is so small, correct me if I'm wrong
[2017-02-22 09:54:58] paper : i'm not even too astute on how that index affects price here tho tbh
[2017-02-22 09:55:25] paper : i mean, we can affect the price, unlike on cfd's...yet there is also some index used, so wth
[2017-02-22 09:55:27] BarefootFlash : JoMamustani: You might still. I bet it helps some people
[2017-02-22 09:56:12] BarefootFlash : For example, if you're in profit, but think it might go further, just in case it doesn't, you could set a stop loss to exit the position while still in profit
[2017-02-22 09:56:15] JoMamustani : BarefootFlash: its just that at 100x leverage with the volatility of BTC, a wrong turn and you get liquiedated very quickly
[2017-02-22 09:56:41] JoMamustani : BarefootFlash: True dat
[2017-02-22 09:56:58] ross : Make Bitcoin great again
[2017-02-22 09:57:31] BarefootFlash : I haven't touched 100x yet though. Maybe after I get out of this short, I might try 100x with some super small size contracts, just to see how it goes
[2017-02-22 09:57:34] paper : i'm trading here and on simplefx at the same time and it's like two different worlds
[2017-02-22 09:57:44] BarefootFlash : paper: I bet
[2017-02-22 09:57:57] BarefootFlash : I'm on sfx too, but haven't really used it
[2017-02-22 09:57:59] paper : and two different currencies even
[2017-02-22 09:58:09] BarefootFlash : What're you trading there?
[2017-02-22 09:59:28] paper : b/c since the price of btc on there is tied to btcc, you're dealing w/ the cn prices that are disconnected from the outside world
[2017-02-22 09:59:44] JoMamustani : paper: yeah, simplefx is easier, but they calculate thing very differently
[2017-02-22 10:00:03] BarefootFlash : Ah
[2017-02-22 10:01:42] paper : JoMamustani: this and that have their strong points. for sure. this exchange is more badass, but i could live w/o the paranoia of liquidity spikes
[2017-02-22 10:01:55] JoMamustani : Just have to learn more, I think I will go with a really small amount of money as a trial run
[2017-02-22 10:02:08] paper : if i sell 100 btc, i don't want the price to move a noticeable amount
[2017-02-22 10:02:12] paper : for example
[2017-02-22 10:02:44] BarefootFlash : JoMamustani: Yes, do that
[2017-02-22 10:03:27] JoMamustani : paper: go with less leverage I guess
[2017-02-22 10:03:29] paper : i lost 16 btc here yesterday just from stopping out at a higher price than my buy price
[2017-02-22 10:03:38] paper : doesn't happen on cfd's
[2017-02-22 10:03:50] BarefootFlash : Oh crap
[2017-02-22 10:04:29] JoMamustani : 10x leverage for XBT is standard
[2017-02-22 10:04:41] JoMamustani : 100x for XBT is living on the edge
[2017-02-22 10:04:42] paper : i'm 10x