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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2017-02-22 02:02:42] rapidtrades : depsoit more [2017-02-22 02:02:47] etoque : when I use x100 im pretty sure lol [2017-02-22 02:02:52] BarefootFlash : rapidtrades: ++ [2017-02-22 02:02:55] ThruTheFloor : ARGH [2017-02-22 02:02:58] rapidtrades : this cant be the end cos bitcoin only goes up [2017-02-22 02:03:20] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: That is a lie [2017-02-22 02:03:26] ThruTheFloor : omg [2017-02-22 02:03:29] etoque : even in a bull market it can't goes always up [2017-02-22 02:03:46] ThruTheFloor : Honey badger does whatever it wants [2017-02-22 02:03:57] rapidtrades : yeah the one i posted is great value i think @MikeHunt [2017-02-22 02:04:23] rapidtrades : performance is not great tho [2017-02-22 02:04:40] ThruTheFloor : Should I try again? Long or short? [2017-02-22 02:04:48] l3f : ThruTheFloor: your trades are panic trades [2017-02-22 02:04:54] rapidtrades : long 100/1 [2017-02-22 02:04:57] l3f : you need to learn to value of holding [2017-02-22 02:04:59] ThruTheFloor : Shh nah I got this [2017-02-22 02:05:04] rapidtrades : do it now or ull miss it [2017-02-22 02:05:09] l3f : you can make money short or long [2017-02-22 02:05:29] rapidtrades : dont be like that BK guy that has to go back to his J.O.B. [2017-02-22 02:05:44] Cryptonary : /sentiment [2017-02-22 02:05:46] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 76.96/23.04 Daily: 43.53/56.47 Weekly: 43.22/56.78 Monthly: 47.49/52.51 [2017-02-22 02:05:54] ThruTheFloor : Oh God no. Please I don't want to go back to actually working for my money [2017-02-22 02:06:31] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: how much of tat 3k was ur capital? [2017-02-22 02:06:35] Dynamix : ThruTheFloor: haha [2017-02-22 02:06:40] ThruTheFloor : I was 100x so not much [2017-02-22 02:07:05] ThruTheFloor : So... go long again? [2017-02-22 02:07:15] ThruTheFloor : You guys sure its just a dip? [2017-02-22 02:07:17] etoque : nah [2017-02-22 02:07:28] etoque : it might really crash a little here [2017-02-22 02:07:35] ThruTheFloor : Might? [2017-02-22 02:07:48] ThruTheFloor : So... short? [2017-02-22 02:07:50] etoque : correction [2017-02-22 02:07:51] Dynamix : It will dump to 1080 [2017-02-22 02:07:53] etoque : yes [2017-02-22 02:07:58] Dynamix : soon maybe [2017-02-22 02:08:04] etoque : maybe not in one shot too [2017-02-22 02:08:06] micmix : it's free money now, just buy all dips, not 100x though [2017-02-22 02:08:14] Dynamix : ThruTheFloor: nobodybknows dontnplace ur bet using us lol [2017-02-22 02:08:20] etoque : yeah in 6 month holding [2017-02-22 02:08:26] Dynamix : I put limits [2017-02-22 02:08:29] etoque : lol now tomorrow it may be lower [2017-02-22 02:08:33] Dynamix : So im good [2017-02-22 02:08:39] ThruTheFloor : Damn it, one person says 1080 correction, another says buy the dips, wtf. Who do I listen to [2017-02-22 02:08:56] InvalidUser : Yourself [2017-02-22 02:08:58] micmix : listen to both, buy futures, sell swap [2017-02-22 02:09:52] rapidgains : ThruTheFloor: yourself [2017-02-22 02:09:53] YOLOCOIN : BUY THE DIP LOL [2017-02-22 02:10:03] ThruTheFloor : ARGH [2017-02-22 02:10:08] ThruTheFloor : Should I flip a coin? [2017-02-22 02:10:16] YOLOCOIN : rekt nuggets [2017-02-22 02:10:32] rapidtrades : micmix: no [2017-02-22 02:10:35] YOLOCOIN : MEGA BEAR [2017-02-22 02:10:37] rapidtrades : YOLO SWAP 100/1 [2017-02-22 02:10:51] micmix : rapidtrades: yeah, yolo is always better [2017-02-22 02:11:04] YOLOCOIN : YOLO IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO [2017-02-22 02:11:06] ronensinger : ThruTheFloor: Listen to yourself [2017-02-22 02:11:09] YOLOCOIN : GAMBLER STYLE [2017-02-22 02:11:11] ronensinger : micmix: Whats up micmix? [2017-02-22 02:11:36] micmix : ronensinger: nothing much, going to have dinner with my family [2017-02-22 02:11:45] ThruTheFloor : ronensinger: I don't trust myself. I have no idea what I'm doing [2017-02-22 02:12:15] etoque : LOL [2017-02-22 02:12:19] rapidtrades : ThruTheFloor: wait ur srs? [2017-02-22 02:12:29] ronensinger : micmix: Profitable day today? [2017-02-22 02:12:37] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: Take a break [2017-02-22 02:12:41] micmix : ronensinger: yeah, pretty good [2017-02-22 02:12:49] rapidtrades : I thought u were doing an act like me lol [2017-02-22 02:12:50] ronensinger : micmix: Pretty good for me as well [2017-02-22 02:12:53] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: Just watch for a while [2017-02-22 02:12:54] l3f : If it doesn't bounce it's going to doom [2017-02-22 02:12:57] ronensinger : What percentage are you up today? [2017-02-22 02:13:11] l3f : strong hands will buy here [2017-02-22 02:13:32] l3f : weak hands need not to apply [2017-02-22 02:13:32] rapidtrades : very strong hands [2017-02-22 02:13:32] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: Take another break, then start again with tiny amounts until you get used to it. [2017-02-22 02:13:51] ronensinger : BarefootFlash: Personally, I believe that no one can beat the markets [2017-02-22 02:13:57] ronensinger : Maybe 1% of all traders [2017-02-22 02:14:04] BarefootFlash : People do though [2017-02-22 02:14:10] ronensinger : Yeah, 1% [2017-02-22 02:14:15] micmix : ronensinger: about 1.5% in USD terms so far [2017-02-22 02:14:28] ronensinger : micmix: And how much USD is that, if you don't mind me asking? [2017-02-22 02:14:30] narnarfromnarnia : not enough big rekts yet [2017-02-22 02:14:33] Sultan Pepper : Happy CEO month everyone! [2017-02-22 02:14:34] confused : ronensinger: 80/20 rule [2017-02-22 02:14:48] micmix : ronensinger: not saying that lol [2017-02-22 02:14:56] BarefootFlash : ronensinger: The nature of the game is that for anyone to make a profit, a bunch of other have to lose [2017-02-22 02:15:02] ronensinger : micmix: How many figures. I want to compare it to me [2017-02-22 02:15:05] BarefootFlash : So yeah, of course [2017-02-22 02:15:17] etoque : look I have lose all day long now finally profitable [2017-02-22 02:15:24] ThruTheFloor : BarefootFlash: Used to what? How can you guess if it goes up or down? It's just luck [2017-02-22 02:15:35] ronensinger : micmix: More than 3 figures? [2017-02-22 02:15:41] confused : trading all money management [2017-02-22 02:15:52] confused : direction doesnt matter [2017-02-22 02:15:59] micmix : ronensinger: no comment [2017-02-22 02:16:03] confused : its how well you manage your account [2017-02-22 02:16:09] ronensinger : micmix: Come on, man. [2017-02-22 02:16:20] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: seems the only alternative is this: http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/xps-13-9360-laptop/fncwt5135hv2?selectionState=eyJGUHJpY2UiOjExMjQuOTksIk9DIjoiZm5jd3Q1MTM1aHYyIiwiUXR5IjoxLCJNb2RzIjpbeyJJZCI6OCwiT3B0cyI6W3siSWQiOiIyNTZTRFAiLCJQcmljZSI6MjAwLjB9XX0seyJJZCI6NCwiT3B0cyI6W3siSWQiOiJFTkdLQkZQIiwiUHJpY2UiOjI1LjB9XX0seyJJZCI6NTcyLCJPcHRzIjpbeyJJZCI6IkZHMDAwNyJ9XX1dfQ%253D%253D [2017-02-22 02:16:23] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: Get a better idea of how the market moves, what people are thinking. Small gains, then compound. [2017-02-22 02:16:25] etoque : rebounce [2017-02-22 02:16:29] ronensinger : micmix: Just answer this. Do you make a living off bitmex? [2017-02-22 02:16:36] l3f : strong hands bought the dip [2017-02-22 02:16:50] etoque : now its look cheap [2017-02-22 02:17:06] thxforyourbtc! : big money bought that dip [2017-02-22 02:17:19] ThruTheFloor : BarefootFlash: Look at this chat, it's almost 50/50 up or down. [2017-02-22 02:17:45] ronensinger : Is micmix still here? [2017-02-22 02:17:47] confused : l3f: or they held through it [2017-02-22 02:17:55] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: Yeah, don't listen to them. There's tons of differing opinions about how things work. Then there's just luck. [2017-02-22 02:18:12] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: Chances are you're going to lose, so always be ready for it. [2017-02-22 02:18:14] ronensinger : I might arbitrage the futures [2017-02-22 02:18:16] YOLOCOIN : GUYS PLEASE BUY THE DIP LOL [2017-02-22 02:18:26] etoque : I buy back [2017-02-22 02:18:28] YOLOCOIN : PLAS [2017-02-22 02:18:37] ronensinger : Lol theres a $2 sspread on futures [2017-02-22 02:18:37] l3f : YOLOCOIN: just don't sell the bottom haha [2017-02-22 02:19:16] aeos : ronensinger: meaning? [2017-02-22 02:19:20] etoque : shit [2017-02-22 02:19:22] ThruTheFloor : We're tanking to 1080, gotta be. 100x short [2017-02-22 02:19:24] etoque : just lose 10 dollar [2017-02-22 02:19:26] ronensinger : aeos: It's a big spread [2017-02-22 02:19:35] ronensinger : I might start making markets on it [2017-02-22 02:19:46] YOLOCOIN : LMFAO 1080? MORE LIKE 880 LOL [2017-02-22 02:20:07] l3f : ronensinger: gap is big because of volatility [2017-02-22 02:20:09] confused : YOLOCOIN: of 1880 [2017-02-22 02:20:11] BarefootFlash : YOLOCOIN: Let's see it, haha. Been waiting [2017-02-22 02:20:21] ronensinger : l3f: It's attracting me [2017-02-22 02:20:35] ronensinger : Now thats a spread id like to grab by the * [2017-02-22 02:20:47] etoque : wtf the price go to 1107 and my long at 1106 got liquidate lol its boring [2017-02-22 02:21:24] aeos : etoque: mark price? [2017-02-22 02:21:33] BarefootFlash : Oh dang, mark is down quite a bit, yeah [2017-02-22 02:21:34] etoque : idk its not here anymore [2017-02-22 02:21:37] etoque : wtf [2017-02-22 02:22:36] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: Only shoot for like .50 moves in the market, see how you do [2017-02-22 02:23:26] ThruTheFloor : $0.50 or 0.50 BTC? [2017-02-22 02:23:29] BarefootFlash : Still not sure if you're serious :P But maybe someone will find it helpful [2017-02-22 02:23:32] BarefootFlash : $.50 [2017-02-22 02:23:38] BarefootFlash : Small gains [2017-02-22 02:24:11] ThruTheFloor : Won't fees take pretty much all of my earnings? [2017-02-22 02:24:27] BarefootFlash : Not if you don't take any fees [2017-02-22 02:24:34] ThruTheFloor : ? [2017-02-22 02:24:35] ronensinger : ThruTheFloor: You'll actually lose money unless you use market orders [2017-02-22 02:24:42] ronensinger : I mean limit orders [2017-02-22 02:24:44] ronensinger : Excuse me [2017-02-22 02:24:56] BarefootFlash : Just never use market orders [2017-02-22 02:25:00] ThruTheFloor : Limit orders have lower fees? [2017-02-22 02:25:10] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: Mos def [2017-02-22 02:25:12] Sultan Pepper : ThruTheFloor: you get paid [2017-02-22 02:25:18] etoque : spread is too big [2017-02-22 02:25:19] Sultan Pepper : ThruTheFloor: but shhhhhh [2017-02-22 02:25:23] etoque : too dangerous margin wtf [2017-02-22 02:25:25] Sultan Pepper : dont tell anyone [2017-02-22 02:25:28] YOLOCOIN : another bullish dump damn [2017-02-22 02:25:30] etoque : I should be in profit now lol [2017-02-22 02:25:44] BarefootFlash : One hour till payday! [2017-02-22 02:25:44] YOLOCOIN : prob 1030s [2017-02-22 02:25:49] BarefootFlash : ^_^// [2017-02-22 02:25:51] ThruTheFloor : What if I put limit orders above price to force it to fill automatically, does it still count as a limit order? [2017-02-22 02:26:07] BarefootFlash : That's what a limit order is [2017-02-22 02:26:15] BarefootFlash : Oh wait, no [2017-02-22 02:26:19] BarefootFlash : Don't do that [2017-02-22 02:26:33] BarefootFlash : Also, always check "Post-Only" [2017-02-22 02:26:39] ThruTheFloor : ? [2017-02-22 02:26:43] ThruTheFloor : What that do [2017-02-22 02:26:45] MikeHunt : u get paid if u use the postman [2017-02-22 02:26:46] BarefootFlash : To make sure you're the maker [2017-02-22 02:27:13] ubba : etf disapproved [2017-02-22 02:27:24] ronensinger : ubba: Lmfao [2017-02-22 02:27:32] ronensinger : No one even trades that market [2017-02-22 02:27:48] ThruTheFloor : Maker? [2017-02-22 02:28:01] ThruTheFloor : What happens if I dont check it? [2017-02-22 02:28:13] ronensinger : ThruTheFloor: I get paid [2017-02-22 02:28:18] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: postman will go postal on u, 0.075% fee [2017-02-22 02:28:45] aeos : will i win money if i make and order, and sell at the exact same price? being the maker of both? [2017-02-22 02:31:24] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: If there are hidden orders at your price, it will buy/sell automatically and you will pay taker fees [2017-02-22 02:31:31] MikeHunt : aeos: no, postman dont like smart ass, put u in letterbox [2017-02-22 02:31:47] aeos : MikeHunt: lol [2017-02-22 02:33:37] cryptokeeper : and here is the bounce [2017-02-22 02:33:46] cryptokeeper : bye bye shorts [2017-02-22 02:34:18] BarefootFlash : Hmm... I'm wondering what a non-manipulated market looks like... [2017-02-22 02:34:25] cryptokeeper : lol [2017-02-22 02:34:34] cryptokeeper : pretty much every market is [2017-02-22 02:37:06] thxforyourbtc! : shorts love the pain lmao [2017-02-22 02:37:50] etoque : oh yeah [2017-02-22 02:38:12] BarefootFlash : cryptokeeper: Haha [2017-02-22 02:39:25] Sultan Pepper : Chill. There's a long way up now [2017-02-22 02:40:10] cryptokeeper : and you would know how [2017-02-22 02:40:29] etoque : why mergin price going down while real one goes high [2017-02-22 02:40:38] cryptokeeper : because rage shorting [2017-02-22 02:40:43] etoque : ??? [2017-02-22 02:40:56] etoque : I long at 1109 and im at -10% profit lol [2017-02-22 02:41:14] arbitrage101 : which exchange are you long 1109 [2017-02-22 02:41:18] cryptokeeper : let it all play out [2017-02-22 02:41:20] etoque : here [2017-02-22 02:41:27] Cryptonary : mark price [2017-02-22 02:41:31] etoque : 1106 [2017-02-22 02:41:41] etoque : 1105 now [2017-02-22 02:41:41] cryptokeeper : they have to change that [2017-02-22 02:41:42] arbitrage101 : ignore mark price if you are not using 20x leverage [2017-02-22 02:41:52] etoque : im using 50x lol [2017-02-22 02:42:00] arbitrage101 : good luck then! [2017-02-22 02:42:37] cryptokeeper : back at 1020 [2017-02-22 02:42:45] cryptokeeper : on the westerns [2017-02-22 02:42:45] etoque : If I sold at 1110 did im still going to loss ? [2017-02-22 02:42:55] arbitrage101 : no [2017-02-22 02:43:01] cryptokeeper : nope [2017-02-22 02:43:02] arbitrage101 : depend on fee [2017-02-22 02:43:06] arbitrage101 : taker or maker [2017-02-22 02:43:13] arbitrage101 : on opening and closing [2017-02-22 02:43:28] cryptokeeper : OKC USD slow to get memo [2017-02-22 02:43:35] cryptokeeper : barely anything there lol [2017-02-22 02:43:46] etoque : finally moving up [2017-02-22 02:43:50] etoque : im gonna hodl lol [2017-02-22 02:44:06] cryptokeeper : ride it till the wheels fall off [2017-02-22 02:44:59] arbitrage101 : when the wheels fall off, the ground will sink [2017-02-22 02:45:13] arbitrage101 : and the continent will shake [2017-02-22 02:45:24] cryptokeeper : lol [2017-02-22 02:45:28] BarefootFlash : arbitrage101: Waiting... [2017-02-22 02:45:29] etoque : lol [2017-02-22 02:45:40] cryptokeeper : stamp almost at 1020 [2017-02-22 02:46:03] etoque : stamp and finex same price ? [2017-02-22 02:46:05] etoque : wut [2017-02-22 02:46:09] cryptokeeper : WAT [2017-02-22 02:46:33] cryptokeeper : yeah normally stamp lags back 4-6 bux [2017-02-22 02:46:39] etoque : yea [2017-02-22 02:46:53] thxforyourbtc! : means about to bounce hard [2017-02-22 02:47:30] etoque : its coming up [2017-02-22 02:47:37] cryptokeeper : we still need to see ATH [2017-02-22 02:47:40] cryptokeeper : if we will [2017-02-22 02:47:55] cryptokeeper : we have gone this far... fuck it... lets do it [2017-02-22 02:49:13] YOLOCOIN : okc usd says NO [2017-02-22 02:52:25] aeos : are futures included in the funding? [2017-02-22 02:52:53] cryptokeeper : YOLOCOIN: tell me bout it [2017-02-22 02:55:51] amaru : lol fuck it [2017-02-22 02:56:39] MikeHunt : okc wont dump [2017-02-22 02:56:48] MikeHunt : okc will probably get liquidated [2017-02-22 02:56:57] MikeHunt : so no dump, just explode entirely [2017-02-22 02:57:58] ripcord : funding rate is insane [2017-02-22 02:58:14] MikeHunt : ripcord: it can get a lot worse [2017-02-22 02:58:18] MikeHunt : 0.375% [2017-02-22 02:58:38] ripcord : damn [2017-02-22 02:58:56] etoque : but seriously [2017-02-22 03:00:39] YOLOCOIN : bull dump [2017-02-22 03:00:52] etoque : I don't understand the storie of my liquidate here [2017-02-22 03:00:57] etoque : there's a mod? [2017-02-22 03:01:23] BitMEX_John : aeos: there is no funding fee paid on futures [2017-02-22 03:01:43] BarefootFlash : etoque: What was the mark price when you liq'd? [2017-02-22 03:01:48] BitMEX_John : etoque: if you have been liquidated you will receive an email that explains what has happened [2017-02-22 03:01:56] etoque : BitMEX_John: thanks I will look this [2017-02-22 03:02:23] BarefootFlash : Er, when your position disappeared, I guess [2017-02-22 03:02:31] BitMEX_John : etoque: please note that liquidations are triggered by the mark price, not the last price, of a contract [2017-02-22 03:03:04] etoque : BitMEX_John: Yes It explain on the mail that the mark price drop 50 cent,very well explain,thanks again lol I take that lost xD ! [2017-02-22 03:03:38] BarefootFlash : etoque: Dang, sorry dude [2017-02-22 03:03:48] degen : etoque: what kind of leverage you on? [2017-02-22 03:03:50] etoque : just0.01 [2017-02-22 03:03:54] thxforyourbtc! : If you get liquidated but the normal price didnt drop much only the mark price. And you fill much higher do u get your 'change'? [2017-02-22 03:03:55] etoque : 100x [2017-02-22 03:04:00] etoque : but I think im done now with BTC [2017-02-22 03:04:03] BarefootFlash : Ah [2017-02-22 03:04:05] etoque : gonna withdrawl and reload alt [2017-02-22 03:04:13] ubba : you traded 0.01 btc on 100x [2017-02-22 03:04:19] etoque : yeah [2017-02-22 03:04:36] ubba : shit mayne my condolences [2017-02-22 03:05:10] BitMEX_John : thxforyourbtc!: no, the 'change' is put toward the insurance fund https://www.bitmex.com/app/insuranceFund [2017-02-22 03:05:49] BitMEX_John : thxforyourbtc!: if you are liquidated you will lose all the margin allocated to that position [2017-02-22 03:05:51] etoque : ubba: haah [2017-02-22 03:05:52] thxforyourbtc! : IS there a chart available of the mark price? [2017-02-22 03:06:01] degen : i have added a bit to that fund :/ super high leverage is so tempting [2017-02-22 03:06:11] sleger : BitMEX_John: who are you Jphn? [2017-02-22 03:07:22] BitMEX_John : thxforyourbtc!: you should be able to see the mark price on the graph (blue line) [2017-02-22 03:07:53] thxforyourbtc! : I see a pink line [2017-02-22 03:07:53] BitMEX_John : sleger: I am a new customer support agent :) [2017-02-22 03:08:01] thxforyourbtc! : no blue line [2017-02-22 03:08:02] mxtrad342 : when leveraging... what does cross means? [2017-02-22 03:08:02] sleger : John Doe ? [2017-02-22 03:08:06] ubba : i see a blue line [2017-02-22 03:08:12] MikeHunt : /sentiment [2017-02-22 03:08:15] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 38.78/61.22 Daily: 42.82/57.18 Weekly: 43.16/56.84 Monthly: 47.49/52.51 [2017-02-22 03:08:21] ubba : /sentiment [2017-02-22 03:08:23] sleger : /joke [2017-02-22 03:08:23] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 38.78/61.22 Daily: 42.82/57.18 Weekly: 43.16/56.84 Monthly: 47.49/52.51 [2017-02-22 03:08:33] trollbot : How many fuq bois does it take to screw in a light bulb? None it's always lit fam [2017-02-22 03:08:44] ubba : ??? [2017-02-22 03:08:48] thxforyourbtc! : i only see a pink line and normal price [2017-02-22 03:08:51] BitMEX_John : mxtrad342: cross means you are setting your entire available account balance as margin [2017-02-22 03:08:55] sleger : I dont get this one [2017-02-22 03:09:15] YOLOCOIN : milk long funds then dump [2017-02-22 03:09:19] mxtrad342 : ahhhh thanks @BitMEX_John [2017-02-22 03:10:02] BitMEX_John : thxforyourbtc!: what is the label (right hand side of the graph) of this pink line? [2017-02-22 03:10:28] thxforyourbtc! : XBT [2017-02-22 03:10:51] sleger : BitMEX_John: It says "chicken farm" is that a good label ? [2017-02-22 03:11:22] degen : oh snap you guys try the dark theme? me likey [2017-02-22 03:12:33] mxtrad342 : degen: thanks, this is lovely [2017-02-22 03:12:49] BitMEX_John : thxforyourbtc!: great that line represents the index price, which the mark price is based on [2017-02-22 03:13:14] thxforyourbtc! : why is it so much different? [2017-02-22 03:14:11] rangle : fomo [2017-02-22 03:14:36] BitMEX_John : thxforyourbtc!: the index price is based on the price at other exchanges, currently it is 50/50 based on Bitstamp and OKCoin USD [2017-02-22 03:14:59] thxforyourbtc! : i mean the mark price is normal, just the XBT line is very low. I was wondering if there is a chart of just the mark price [2017-02-22 03:15:24] degen : BitMEX_John: any plans to reduce the woodchipper's weight? [2017-02-22 03:15:45] degen : given their volume decrease? [2017-02-22 03:17:15] BitMEX_John : degen: if there is a decision made on this there will be an announcement, there has been discussion about this as obviously there has been some concern from traders [2017-02-22 03:17:45] degen : BitMEX_John: good to hear you guys are discussing it [2017-02-22 03:17:45] thxforyourbtc! : where can i find the woodchipper [2017-02-22 03:18:06] sleger : In the woods [2017-02-22 03:19:02] thxforyourbtc! : i mean the exchange... [2017-02-22 03:19:16] BitMEX_John : thxforyourbtc!: here is a graph of just the XBT index https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBT [2017-02-22 03:19:48] Sultan Pepper : thxforyourbtc!: o k coin [2017-02-22 03:19:54] thxforyourbtc! : oh [2017-02-22 03:20:31] Sultan Pepper : Or okeydokeycoin as we all call it here [2017-02-22 03:22:13] Sultan Pepper : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3n-9Rsn52Qk [2017-02-22 03:22:17] BarefootFlash : Nice paydays coming up [2017-02-22 03:22:29] cryptokeeper : yup [2017-02-22 03:23:01] BarefootFlash : Not super glad I shorted too early, but at least I get that [2017-02-22 03:23:42] Sultan Pepper : Did thatceoguy die? [2017-02-22 03:24:18] BarefootFlash : Sultan Pepper: I don't think so. His liq was around 1200 [2017-02-22 03:24:26] Sultan Pepper : Oh ok [2017-02-22 03:24:32] BarefootFlash : Unless he lowered his margin and got out with whatever was left [2017-02-22 03:24:46] Sultan Pepper : He'll be fine [2017-02-22 03:24:57] BarefootFlash : You don't think it's going up that high? [2017-02-22 03:25:04] Sultan Pepper : For some period of time [2017-02-22 03:25:18] Sultan Pepper : between 1 minute and 5 years [2017-02-22 03:25:46] BarefootFlash : Haha [2017-02-22 03:26:01] Sultan Pepper : BarefootFlash: for the record, no. But i wont put a short on it [2017-02-22 03:26:04] cryptokeeper : yeah that is crazy his first trade 10btc [2017-02-22 03:26:11] cryptokeeper : what can ya do.... we all learn [2017-02-22 03:26:17] Sultan Pepper : i have low buys though [2017-02-22 03:26:47] BarefootFlash : Yeah, same [2017-02-22 03:26:56] BarefootFlash : Well, minus the not having a short already [2017-02-22 03:27:09] Sultan Pepper : GL! [2017-02-22 03:27:32] BarefootFlash : I'm not in deep enough to start working both perp and futures, but maybe after this little session I'll start :) [2017-02-22 03:27:39] Sultan Pepper : I hope you're right, im itchin to get into a good position [2017-02-22 03:27:44] BarefootFlash : Haha, thanks. [2017-02-22 03:28:12] BarefootFlash : I caught some good breaks when those knives dropped [2017-02-22 03:28:46] BarefootFlash : We'll just see what happens [2017-02-22 03:29:03] Sultan Pepper : I like cooking my trades like I cook my boeuf bourginon. Long, slow, and tasty [2017-02-22 03:29:46] Sultan Pepper : This hype shit is too much like TV cooking shows for me [2017-02-22 03:29:56] BarefootFlash : I don't trust the market enough for any intentional long-term positions [2017-02-22 03:30:11] Sultan Pepper : I do [2017-02-22 03:30:32] BarefootFlash : Prefer short-term small profits, but tend to get stuck in positions when the price moves a bunch [2017-02-22 03:30:54] Sultan Pepper : Yeah i tried that and got burned too many times [2017-02-22 03:30:58] BarefootFlash : Dang [2017-02-22 03:31:16] Sultan Pepper : i found my success lies in the mid-term [2017-02-22 03:31:31] BarefootFlash : Being around how long? [2017-02-22 03:31:45] Sultan Pepper : Whatchu mean? [2017-02-22 03:32:05] BarefootFlash : Like days, weeks? mid-term [2017-02-22 03:33:00] Sultan Pepper : Oh, 2-3 weeks has been good to me. I'm looking longer now though. I've only been at this for a few months now [2017-02-22 03:33:13] BarefootFlash : I think when I understand the market better and trader psychology, I might start moving to more mid- to long-term positions [2017-02-22 03:33:42] Sultan Pepper : the chop is what was killing me [2017-02-22 03:33:48] BarefootFlash : what's that? [2017-02-22 03:33:49] Sultan Pepper : too erratic [2017-02-22 03:34:07] BarefootFlash : what's the chop? [2017-02-22 03:34:44] Sultan Pepper : all the up-down ebb and flow over the day [2017-02-22 03:34:50] Ugly_Old_Goat : Please pay me for the privilege of being long Perp in 25 minutes. Thank you for your support [2017-02-22 03:35:01] Sultan Pepper : Sometimes i could nail it, but not enough [2017-02-22 03:35:27] BarefootFlash : Ah [2017-02-22 03:35:35] BarefootFlash : I love the horizontal market [2017-02-22 03:35:45] Sultan Pepper : everything "insignifigant" [2017-02-22 03:35:49] Sultan Pepper : noise [2017-02-22 03:36:19] BarefootFlash : Tiny profits on every up and down. The patterns are easy to follow [2017-02-22 03:36:48] BarefootFlash : But when you go bigger scale, there's a lot more to it, and Im' not confident enough yet [2017-02-22 03:36:57] Sultan Pepper : Until they jostle you out. Maybe you're better at it though. Keep it up if you are [2017-02-22 03:37:09] gnx100 : china about to announce a sanction on btc. just a heads up [2017-02-22 03:37:12] Sultan Pepper : and dont get greedy [2017-02-22 03:37:16] MikeHunt : gnx100: source? [2017-02-22 03:37:22] BarefootFlash : Yeah, the problem is getting stuck in a position, like now, haha [2017-02-22 03:37:23] Sultan Pepper : MikeHunt: thx [2017-02-22 03:37:32] Sultan Pepper : BarefootFlash: yep [2017-02-22 03:37:59] BarefootFlash : Might be able to start using futures to offset though. Seems like a good strategy [2017-02-22 03:38:09] Sultan Pepper : BarefootFlash: i've learned to keep a nice safety net. I like sleeping at night [2017-02-22 03:38:26] BarefootFlash : Haha, thus the get in and get out quick for me [2017-02-22 03:39:09] Sultan Pepper : BarefootFlash: if you buy into march now, you'll lower your liq point on swap. [2017-02-22 03:39:17] Sultan Pepper : If you're on cross [2017-02-22 03:39:24] Sultan Pepper : I think [2017-02-22 03:39:35] BarefootFlash : No extra atm. All my extra margin is here [2017-02-22 03:39:40] BarefootFlash : on perp [2017-02-22 03:40:13] Sultan Pepper : Where is your break even point? [2017-02-22 03:40:34] sleger : -2500$ish [2017-02-22 03:40:35] BarefootFlash : When this is over, I'll be lowering my position amounts. Trading with much less contracts at a time [2017-02-22 03:40:56] BarefootFlash : I moved it up to 1086 [2017-02-22 03:41:07] ronensinger : sleger: Lol [2017-02-22 03:41:17] Sultan Pepper : If we dip, you should close half [2017-02-22 03:41:29] BarefootFlash : Yep. Limits set [2017-02-22 03:41:29] ronensinger : sleger: Do you trade only bitcoin? [2017-02-22 03:41:40] sleger : no [2017-02-22 03:41:48] ronensinger : sleger: Stocks? [2017-02-22 03:41:56] Sultan Pepper : sleger: commodities? [2017-02-22 03:42:02] ronensinger : Forex? [2017-02-22 03:42:14] Sultan Pepper : sleger: CS:GO skins? [2017-02-22 03:42:31] thxforyourbtc! : Pokemon cards [2017-02-22 03:42:32] aethlios : dog races [2017-02-22 03:42:38] ronensinger : Sultan Pepper: Lmfao [2017-02-22 03:43:14] Sultan Pepper : ronensinger: honestly, that's where my capital here came from [2017-02-22 03:43:33] ronensinger : Sultan Pepper: I've heard it can be profitable [2017-02-22 03:43:42] ronensinger : Are there still a lot of CSGO casinos? [2017-02-22 03:44:04] Sultan Pepper : ronensinger: i traded up for a while, but found the real profit in arbitrage of keys [2017-02-22 03:44:19] ronensinger : Sultan Pepper: Smart guy [2017-02-22 03:44:30] Sultan Pepper : buying from bots and selling on websites [2017-02-22 03:44:43] ronensinger : Sultan Pepper: How much do you trade with? [2017-02-22 03:44:48] ronensinger : Here at bitmex [2017-02-22 03:45:44] aeos : Sultan Pepper: arb of keys? [2017-02-22 03:45:56] Sultan Pepper : not much. 1.08 total, but i only keep a quarter of my holding here [2017-02-22 03:46:26] BarefootFlash : Sultan Pepper: What is your average contract amount? [2017-02-22 03:46:37] BarefootFlash : for a position [2017-02-22 03:47:16] Sultan Pepper : aeos: yeah. Buy from bots at 2.1 usd in btc per key, trade for "better" keys, sell keys on website for 2.28 each [2017-02-22 03:48:06] aeos : Sultan Pepper: sry i'm ingnorant of what keys are [2017-02-22 03:48:09] ronensinger : BarefootFlash: What;s yours? [2017-02-22 03:49:01] Sultan Pepper : BarefootFlash: i like holding 5x long. I have some room down if necessary, then i'll average down at 10x and sell off half when we get back to my break even [2017-02-22 03:49:03] BarefootFlash : I started with 1k contracts, then moved up to 2k after some good horizontal trading, then up to 5k. [2017-02-22 03:49:19] BarefootFlash : Sultan Pepper: So how many contracts? [2017-02-22 03:49:27] ronensinger : BarefootFlash: Nice [2017-02-22 03:49:28] BarefootFlash : Like 1k-ish? [2017-02-22 03:49:29] Sultan Pepper : aeos: its a CS:GO thing [2017-02-22 03:49:49] Sultan Pepper : BarefootFlash: right now i'll hold 1300 [2017-02-22 03:49:59] Sultan Pepper : comfy [2017-02-22 03:50:08] BarefootFlash : ronensinger: Maybe, if I didn't keep getting stuck in not-so-great positions [2017-02-22 03:50:14] BarefootFlash : Sultan Pepper: Ah [2017-02-22 03:50:24] thxforyourbtc! : jeesus thats it? Ive been doing 30k+ when 1btc [2017-02-22 03:50:25] aeos : Sultan Pepper: rly? lol anywhere i can get info about that? [2017-02-22 03:50:32] BarefootFlash : Yeah, after this bout, I'm gonna move back to 1-2k again [2017-02-22 03:50:35] rullwull : finally LTC started to move [2017-02-22 03:50:47] Sultan Pepper : thxforyourbtc!: come say hi in a few years when your poor [2017-02-22 03:51:16] sleger : ronensinger: @Sultan Pepper yes yes yes and no not sure what the last one is, gtg bye and buy [2017-02-22 03:51:25] Sultan Pepper : aeos: what do you want to know? [2017-02-22 03:51:40] thxforyourbtc! : Sultan Pepper: man ive more than tripled since i joined on the weekend [2017-02-22 03:51:45] Sultan Pepper : aeos: im out of the game and will spill all my secrets if you want [2017-02-22 03:51:51] aeos : Sultan Pepper: how to make a few buck with that [2017-02-22 03:52:04] Sultan Pepper : thxforyourbtc!: yes you have, good job [2017-02-22 03:52:29] Sultan Pepper : thxforyourbtc!: i pride myself in being a p ussy [2017-02-22 03:52:55] BarefootFlash : Sultan Pepper: I also am extremely risk-averse [2017-02-22 03:52:57] BarefootFlash : Haha [2017-02-22 03:53:23] Sultan Pepper : aeos: well start by playing a little cs:go and browsing /r/globaloffensivetrade [2017-02-22 03:53:40] Sultan Pepper : to get the feel for the territory [2017-02-22 03:54:13] Sultan Pepper : Make an account there, but figure out how to not seem like an idiot when you start trading [2017-02-22 03:54:16] aeos : Sultan Pepper: ok, but you have to play cs go in order to win ? =D [2017-02-22 03:54:30] Sultan Pepper : aeos: nah [2017-02-22 03:54:46] Sultan Pepper : aeos: but it helps to know what it's about at least [2017-02-22 03:54:58] thxforyourbtc! : yeah the last trade was actually not expected to survive [2017-02-22 03:55:00] aeos : Sultan Pepper: true [2017-02-22 03:55:44] thxforyourbtc! : i cashed out 2.4 and let something like 0.05 or 0.1 or so ride out 100x like almost 0 room in liq to mark and i woke up couldnt believe it [2017-02-22 03:55:58] Sultan Pepper : Cases are shit drops. Keys open cases and cost $2.5 from the in-game store. You almost always get bullshit from cases. You can trade your keys for good skins [2017-02-22 03:56:20] Sultan Pepper : thxforyourbtc!: it's been a nice bull run [2017-02-22 03:57:00] thxforyourbtc! : yes it was very lucky it didnt lick tho [2017-02-22 03:57:14] Sultan Pepper : aeos: ooooor you can buy cheap keys from (hopefully not sketchy) bots for btc [2017-02-22 03:57:27] Sultan Pepper : at a variable rate [2017-02-22 03:57:47] thxforyourbtc! : Sultan Pepper: still ahvent closed and have since added with profits [2017-02-22 03:57:51] aeos : Sultan Pepper: please show me sensei [2017-02-22 03:57:53] Sultan Pepper : they also buy at a variable rate, so theoretically you could just arb the bots [2017-02-22 03:58:11] thxforyourbtc! : re-ramp the lev [2017-02-22 03:58:47] Sultan Pepper : but you should take your keys to a website and list them at the right time for the right price, over and over, until they sell [2017-02-22 03:59:11] Sultan Pepper : aeos: then withdraw funds and repeat [2017-02-22 04:00:15] startChat : yummy funding [2017-02-22 04:00:27] Sultan Pepper : aeos: it became too tedious for me, but certainly can be profitable with virtually no risk [2017-02-22 04:00:43] BarefootFlash : Yay payday! Not-yay, early short [2017-02-22 04:00:55] BarefootFlash : Alright, time for class. Peace and good luck! [2017-02-22 04:01:37] aeos : Sultan Pepper: so whats the purpuse of keys in the game? [2017-02-22 04:02:07] Sultan Pepper : aeos: to open cases, but they're the running currency of traders [2017-02-22 04:02:27] Sultan Pepper : becauses cases are shit [2017-02-22 04:02:32] startChat : BarefootFlash: if you are not comfortable with you risk. Do something about it now. [2017-02-22 04:02:35] aeos : Sultan Pepper: how you buy keys form bots? [2017-02-22 04:02:50] ronensinger : Goodnight guys [2017-02-22 04:03:05] BarefootFlash : startChat: I am [2017-02-22 04:03:28] Sultan Pepper : aeos: befriend a trusty bot, send it btc, ask for a trade that includes however many keys you can afford [2017-02-22 04:04:09] Sultan Pepper : you have to set up a steam account and go through like 10 days of not being able to trade first [2017-02-22 04:04:36] Sultan Pepper : mobile confirmation of all trades [2017-02-22 04:04:45] Sultan Pepper : scam proofing [2017-02-22 04:05:13] aeos : Sultan Pepper: any way i can contact you for directions =D? [2017-02-22 04:05:14] Sultan Pepper : but it's still easy to get scammed if you're dumb, or dumb to the territory [2017-02-22 04:05:26] Sultan Pepper : aeos: nope, sorry [2017-02-22 04:05:55] aeos : Sultan Pepper: not at all, so can i still ask you questions? [2017-02-22 04:06:36] Sultan Pepper : aeos: absolutely, do it in the chinese box though [2017-02-22 04:25:25] YOLOCOIN : Milk milk [2017-02-22 04:29:57] MikeHunt : looking at all the charts [2017-02-22 04:30:01] MikeHunt : wtf is this thing going [2017-02-22 04:30:25] degen : up [2017-02-22 04:31:59] BitBIT : bullish now? [2017-02-22 04:35:52] MikeHunt : /sentiment [2017-02-22 04:35:59] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 58.58/41.42 Daily: 42.68/57.32 Weekly: 43.14/56.86 Monthly: 47.49/52.51 [2017-02-22 04:36:57] BitBIT : where u get this data [2017-02-22 04:36:57] BitBIT : man [2017-02-22 04:37:48] MikeHunt : BitBIT: type /sentiment and farzads bot looks it up [2017-02-22 04:37:51] MikeHunt : from bfxdata [2017-02-22 04:38:15] BitBIT : oh [2017-02-22 04:38:19] BitBIT : thank you [2017-02-22 04:38:30] BitBIT : MikeHunt: : ) [2017-02-22 04:38:40] MikeHunt : np, u can also use /price to get list of prices from various exchanges [2017-02-22 04:38:44] MikeHunt : /price [2017-02-22 04:38:44] trollbot : Bitstamp: 1111.74 (-0.26%) [2017-02-22 04:38:44] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1118.0 (0.09%) [2017-02-22 04:38:44] trollbot : GDAX: 1124.76 (0.51%) [2017-02-22 04:38:45] trollbot : Kraken: 1115.3 (0.06%) [2017-02-22 04:38:45] trollbot : itBit: 1112.59 (-0.24%) [2017-02-22 04:38:45] trollbot : OKCoin: 1094.94 (-0.91%) [2017-02-22 04:41:30] rapidtrades : cmon fall or bounce, i have shit to do [2017-02-22 04:42:16] MikeHunt : might see 1150 again [2017-02-22 04:43:54] rapidtrades : /price [2017-02-22 04:43:54] trollbot : Bitstamp: 1110.56 (-0.11%) [2017-02-22 04:43:54] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1118.3 (0.03%) [2017-02-22 04:43:54] trollbot : GDAX: 1124.76 (0%) [2017-02-22 04:43:55] trollbot : Kraken: 1115.3 (0%) [2017-02-22 04:43:55] trollbot : OKCoin: 1094.95 (0%) [2017-02-22 04:43:56] trollbot : itBit: 1112.49 (-0.01%) [2017-02-22 04:45:53] BitBIT : /Sentiment [2017-02-22 04:46:08] BitBIT : /sentiment