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[2017-02-22 01:39:21] Zen Trader : No but someone will do whatever they can to stop the news from being bitcoin reaches new highs
[2017-02-22 01:39:41] cryptokeeper : this is where the pain builds up
[2017-02-22 01:40:10] Zen Trader : rage shorting is a funny term I think of Road rage style traders red in the face
[2017-02-22 01:40:20] cryptokeeper : rage shorting... revenge betting
[2017-02-22 01:40:23] cryptokeeper : u can TOTALLY TELL
[2017-02-22 01:40:29] cryptokeeper : that is exactly what happened there
[2017-02-22 01:41:05] cryptokeeper : bfx and stamp have clear runway past 1120
[2017-02-22 01:41:16] cryptokeeper : good luck shorters
[2017-02-22 01:41:44] aethlios : real news will be btc above gold. many gold bugs are anti-gov anti-systemic, they will ask them selves: should i exchange a few ounces with a few btc as hedge?? also many gold-silver sellers-promoters in internet will start selling btc to their customers.
[2017-02-22 01:42:12] l3f : aethlios: only if etf is approved
[2017-02-22 01:42:20] l3f : a lot of capital i.e. retirement funds can't go into btc
[2017-02-22 01:43:21] aethlios : no i am talking about people buying physical precious metals, they like to hold the real thing.
[2017-02-22 01:43:52] MikeHunt : if ETF passes we could see a lot of funds get LIQ-ed
[2017-02-22 01:43:58] MikeHunt : pump n dump squads will rape them
[2017-02-22 01:44:10] l3f : MikeHunt: lel
[2017-02-22 01:44:24] MikeHunt : i mean we'll all get rich here but little ppl with 9-5 jobs will get raped, a whole lot of em
[2017-02-22 01:44:44] n00bie : anyone ride that short bus?
[2017-02-22 01:44:50] ThatCEOGuy : n00bie:
[2017-02-22 01:44:55] l3f : n00bie: just the hedge bus
[2017-02-22 01:45:23] aethlios : if no news until friday could have a weekend rally??
[2017-02-22 01:45:45] Dynamix : Should I open a long and go to sleep ?
[2017-02-22 01:46:05] MikeHunt : Dynamix: u might wish u never woke up if u do
[2017-02-22 01:46:17] Dynamix : Lolol
[2017-02-22 01:46:19] l3f : aethlios: dunno but the divergences building up through the timeframes is concerning
[2017-02-22 01:46:30] Dynamix : Common u tjink it will dump ?
[2017-02-22 01:46:33] MikeHunt : 1hr/4hr suggest big dump coming
[2017-02-22 01:46:34] l3f : if it was real news instead of fomo we won't be diverging
[2017-02-22 01:46:57] MikeHunt : need mini-dump every now and again to shake off fomo bulls
[2017-02-22 01:47:11] MikeHunt : and high lvg traders
[2017-02-22 01:47:16] l3f : divergence is different
[2017-02-22 01:47:31] MikeHunt : l3f: u talking bout breaking out of the upward channel?
[2017-02-22 01:47:38] BarefootFlash : l3f: What do you mean?
[2017-02-22 01:47:41] l3f : no I'm talking about divergence on 1h, 4h
[2017-02-22 01:47:48] yungyang : Volume down price up
[2017-02-22 01:48:04] l3f : Also volume decreaing on upward pushes
[2017-02-22 01:48:07] aethlios : things will get really wild, volatility will be huge, highest since 2013 crashes, so price action now is a little irrelevant.
[2017-02-22 01:48:09] ThruTheFloor : Does that mean I should close my long?
[2017-02-22 01:48:20] l3f : ThruTheFloor: nah it is still good to buy dips
[2017-02-22 01:48:26] etoque : lol run
[2017-02-22 01:48:35] l3f : no shorting
[2017-02-22 01:48:51] etoque : short 100x
[2017-02-22 01:48:56] ronensinger : This is wild
[2017-02-22 01:49:03] ronensinger : Me gusta mucho
[2017-02-22 01:49:33] Cryptonary : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 01:49:36] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 72.05/27.95 Daily: 43.35/56.65 Weekly: 43.16/56.84 Monthly: 47.49/52.52
[2017-02-22 01:49:39] ronensinger : /joke
[2017-02-22 01:49:44] trollbot : A stranger just came up to me and told me she was vegan... I swear I've met herbivore
[2017-02-22 01:50:01] Dynamix : Set my limits hehe
[2017-02-22 01:50:07] MikeHunt : @rapidtrades you there?
[2017-02-22 01:50:12] n00bie : missed your chance to short
[2017-02-22 01:50:48] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: yes y
[2017-02-22 01:51:18] paper : i nibbled down here. but i don't short bull mkt
[2017-02-22 01:51:27] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: $700 ur budget?
[2017-02-22 01:51:55] Dynamix : Big dip incomming
[2017-02-22 01:52:04] etoque : yes
[2017-02-22 01:52:05] rapidtrades : i said 700-1200
[2017-02-22 01:52:05] etoque : its a trap
[2017-02-22 01:52:15] etoque : going much lower
[2017-02-22 01:52:50] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: oh i thought u were talking about btc lol
[2017-02-22 01:55:06] rapidtrades : im kinda torn between gaming laptop and ultrabook
[2017-02-22 01:55:18] paper : ppl will buy any dip you throw at them, no matter how shallow
[2017-02-22 01:55:32] rapidtrades : paper: glad u noticed
[2017-02-22 01:55:34] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: well it depends on ur needs, is it just for trading/browsing or?
[2017-02-22 01:55:44] rapidtrades : yeah trading main function
[2017-02-22 01:55:52] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: anything else?
[2017-02-22 01:55:55] degen : dump it
[2017-02-22 01:56:06] rapidtrades : idk programming doesnt need much resources does it?
[2017-02-22 01:56:18] BarefootFlash : rapidtrades: Thinking the same thing here, re new latptop
[2017-02-22 01:56:38] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: mkay so mainly CPU based stuff
[2017-02-22 01:56:50] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: does portability matter a lot?
[2017-02-22 01:57:10] rapidtrades : yes, i travel a lot
[2017-02-22 01:57:54] rapidgains : linux or osx for dev
[2017-02-22 01:58:32] rapidtrades : whats considered mid-range for laptops now? is it i5 machine or what
[2017-02-22 01:58:46] rapidtrades : i5 8gb?
[2017-02-22 01:59:12] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: https://www.amazon.com/ZenBook-UX303UB-13-3-Inch-Touchscreen-Discrete/dp/B014VHW24Y/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1487728690&sr=1-3&keywords=ASUS%2BZenBook&th=1
[2017-02-22 01:59:36] MikeHunt : only slightly heavier than the one u posted
[2017-02-22 02:00:14] MikeHunt : 15" screen
[2017-02-22 02:00:21] rapidtrades : whats the different with the one i posted
[2017-02-22 02:00:28] MikeHunt : bigger screen and faster processor
[2017-02-22 02:00:42] rapidtrades : it says 13.3 inch bra
[2017-02-22 02:00:45] ronensinger : MikeHunt: Good day today?
[2017-02-22 02:00:53] rapidtrades : also wasn't mine i5 too
[2017-02-22 02:01:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 3000 @ 1126.31
[2017-02-22 02:01:05] ronensinger : 25k whale is trading
[2017-02-22 02:01:25] ronensinger : Wholy crap
[2017-02-22 02:01:41] MikeHunt : ronensinger: $60 up
[2017-02-22 02:01:46] ThruTheFloor : Welp that was me. Just got REKT, thanks guys
[2017-02-22 02:01:50] ronensinger : MikeHunt: Solid, solid
[2017-02-22 02:01:58] ronensinger : ThruTheFloor: That was you?
[2017-02-22 02:01:59] ronensinger : No way
[2017-02-22 02:02:04] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: oops yeh has got same screen size, prob not worth extra $130 then
[2017-02-22 02:02:10] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: No way, seriously?
[2017-02-22 02:02:26] ThruTheFloor : YOU ASSHOLES TOLD ME TO BUY THE DIP WTF
[2017-02-22 02:02:33] etoque : LOL
[2017-02-22 02:02:35] aeos : ThruTheFloor: 100x?
[2017-02-22 02:02:38] etoque : I told you I short x100
[2017-02-22 02:02:39] ThruTheFloor : LAST TIME I LISTEN TO YOI NIGGRS
[2017-02-22 02:02:40] rapidtrades : ThruTheFloor: try again bra
[2017-02-22 02:02:42] rapidtrades : depsoit more
[2017-02-22 02:02:47] etoque : when I use x100 im pretty sure lol
[2017-02-22 02:02:52] BarefootFlash : rapidtrades: ++
[2017-02-22 02:02:55] ThruTheFloor : ARGH
[2017-02-22 02:02:58] rapidtrades : this cant be the end cos bitcoin only goes up
[2017-02-22 02:03:20] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: That is a lie
[2017-02-22 02:03:26] ThruTheFloor : omg
[2017-02-22 02:03:29] etoque : even in a bull market it can't goes always up
[2017-02-22 02:03:46] ThruTheFloor : Honey badger does whatever it wants
[2017-02-22 02:03:57] rapidtrades : yeah the one i posted is great value i think @MikeHunt
[2017-02-22 02:04:23] rapidtrades : performance is not great tho
[2017-02-22 02:04:40] ThruTheFloor : Should I try again? Long or short?
[2017-02-22 02:04:48] l3f : ThruTheFloor: your trades are panic trades
[2017-02-22 02:04:54] rapidtrades : long 100/1
[2017-02-22 02:04:57] l3f : you need to learn to value of holding
[2017-02-22 02:04:59] ThruTheFloor : Shh nah I got this
[2017-02-22 02:05:04] rapidtrades : do it now or ull miss it
[2017-02-22 02:05:09] l3f : you can make money short or long
[2017-02-22 02:05:29] rapidtrades : dont be like that BK guy that has to go back to his J.O.B.
[2017-02-22 02:05:44] Cryptonary : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 02:05:46] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 76.96/23.04 Daily: 43.53/56.47 Weekly: 43.22/56.78 Monthly: 47.49/52.51
[2017-02-22 02:05:54] ThruTheFloor : Oh God no. Please I don't want to go back to actually working for my money
[2017-02-22 02:06:31] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: how much of tat 3k was ur capital?
[2017-02-22 02:06:35] Dynamix : ThruTheFloor: haha
[2017-02-22 02:06:40] ThruTheFloor : I was 100x so not much
[2017-02-22 02:07:05] ThruTheFloor : So... go long again?
[2017-02-22 02:07:15] ThruTheFloor : You guys sure its just a dip?
[2017-02-22 02:07:17] etoque : nah
[2017-02-22 02:07:28] etoque : it might really crash a little here
[2017-02-22 02:07:35] ThruTheFloor : Might?
[2017-02-22 02:07:48] ThruTheFloor : So... short?
[2017-02-22 02:07:50] etoque : correction
[2017-02-22 02:07:51] Dynamix : It will dump to 1080
[2017-02-22 02:07:53] etoque : yes
[2017-02-22 02:07:58] Dynamix : soon maybe
[2017-02-22 02:08:04] etoque : maybe not in one shot too
[2017-02-22 02:08:06] micmix : it's free money now, just buy all dips, not 100x though
[2017-02-22 02:08:14] Dynamix : ThruTheFloor: nobodybknows dontnplace ur bet using us lol
[2017-02-22 02:08:20] etoque : yeah in 6 month holding
[2017-02-22 02:08:26] Dynamix : I put limits
[2017-02-22 02:08:29] etoque : lol now tomorrow it may be lower
[2017-02-22 02:08:33] Dynamix : So im good
[2017-02-22 02:08:39] ThruTheFloor : Damn it, one person says 1080 correction, another says buy the dips, wtf. Who do I listen to
[2017-02-22 02:08:56] InvalidUser : Yourself
[2017-02-22 02:08:58] micmix : listen to both, buy futures, sell swap
[2017-02-22 02:09:52] rapidgains : ThruTheFloor: yourself
[2017-02-22 02:09:53] YOLOCOIN : BUY THE DIP LOL
[2017-02-22 02:10:03] ThruTheFloor : ARGH
[2017-02-22 02:10:08] ThruTheFloor : Should I flip a coin?
[2017-02-22 02:10:16] YOLOCOIN : rekt nuggets
[2017-02-22 02:10:32] rapidtrades : micmix: no
[2017-02-22 02:10:35] YOLOCOIN : MEGA BEAR
[2017-02-22 02:10:37] rapidtrades : YOLO SWAP 100/1
[2017-02-22 02:10:51] micmix : rapidtrades: yeah, yolo is always better
[2017-02-22 02:11:04] YOLOCOIN : YOLO IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO
[2017-02-22 02:11:06] ronensinger : ThruTheFloor: Listen to yourself
[2017-02-22 02:11:09] YOLOCOIN : GAMBLER STYLE
[2017-02-22 02:11:11] ronensinger : micmix: Whats up micmix?
[2017-02-22 02:11:36] micmix : ronensinger: nothing much, going to have dinner with my family
[2017-02-22 02:11:45] ThruTheFloor : ronensinger: I don't trust myself. I have no idea what I'm doing
[2017-02-22 02:12:15] etoque : LOL
[2017-02-22 02:12:19] rapidtrades : ThruTheFloor: wait ur srs?
[2017-02-22 02:12:29] ronensinger : micmix: Profitable day today?
[2017-02-22 02:12:37] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: Take a break
[2017-02-22 02:12:41] micmix : ronensinger: yeah, pretty good
[2017-02-22 02:12:49] rapidtrades : I thought u were doing an act like me lol
[2017-02-22 02:12:50] ronensinger : micmix: Pretty good for me as well
[2017-02-22 02:12:53] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: Just watch for a while
[2017-02-22 02:12:54] l3f : If it doesn't bounce it's going to doom
[2017-02-22 02:12:57] ronensinger : What percentage are you up today?
[2017-02-22 02:13:11] l3f : strong hands will buy here
[2017-02-22 02:13:32] l3f : weak hands need not to apply
[2017-02-22 02:13:32] rapidtrades : very strong hands
[2017-02-22 02:13:32] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: Take another break, then start again with tiny amounts until you get used to it.
[2017-02-22 02:13:51] ronensinger : BarefootFlash: Personally, I believe that no one can beat the markets
[2017-02-22 02:13:57] ronensinger : Maybe 1% of all traders
[2017-02-22 02:14:04] BarefootFlash : People do though
[2017-02-22 02:14:10] ronensinger : Yeah, 1%
[2017-02-22 02:14:15] micmix : ronensinger: about 1.5% in USD terms so far
[2017-02-22 02:14:28] ronensinger : micmix: And how much USD is that, if you don't mind me asking?
[2017-02-22 02:14:30] narnarfromnarnia : not enough big rekts yet
[2017-02-22 02:14:33] Sultan Pepper : Happy CEO month everyone!
[2017-02-22 02:14:34] confused : ronensinger: 80/20 rule
[2017-02-22 02:14:48] micmix : ronensinger: not saying that lol
[2017-02-22 02:14:56] BarefootFlash : ronensinger: The nature of the game is that for anyone to make a profit, a bunch of other have to lose
[2017-02-22 02:15:02] ronensinger : micmix: How many figures. I want to compare it to me
[2017-02-22 02:15:05] BarefootFlash : So yeah, of course
[2017-02-22 02:15:17] etoque : look I have lose all day long now finally profitable
[2017-02-22 02:15:24] ThruTheFloor : BarefootFlash: Used to what? How can you guess if it goes up or down? It's just luck
[2017-02-22 02:15:35] ronensinger : micmix: More than 3 figures?
[2017-02-22 02:15:41] confused : trading all money management
[2017-02-22 02:15:52] confused : direction doesnt matter
[2017-02-22 02:15:59] micmix : ronensinger: no comment
[2017-02-22 02:16:03] confused : its how well you manage your account
[2017-02-22 02:16:09] ronensinger : micmix: Come on, man.
[2017-02-22 02:16:20] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: seems the only alternative is this: http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/xps-13-9360-laptop/fncwt5135hv2?selectionState=eyJGUHJpY2UiOjExMjQuOTksIk9DIjoiZm5jd3Q1MTM1aHYyIiwiUXR5IjoxLCJNb2RzIjpbeyJJZCI6OCwiT3B0cyI6W3siSWQiOiIyNTZTRFAiLCJQcmljZSI6MjAwLjB9XX0seyJJZCI6NCwiT3B0cyI6W3siSWQiOiJFTkdLQkZQIiwiUHJpY2UiOjI1LjB9XX0seyJJZCI6NTcyLCJPcHRzIjpbeyJJZCI6IkZHMDAwNyJ9XX1dfQ%253D%253D
[2017-02-22 02:16:23] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: Get a better idea of how the market moves, what people are thinking. Small gains, then compound.
[2017-02-22 02:16:25] etoque : rebounce
[2017-02-22 02:16:29] ronensinger : micmix: Just answer this. Do you make a living off bitmex?
[2017-02-22 02:16:36] l3f : strong hands bought the dip
[2017-02-22 02:16:50] etoque : now its look cheap
[2017-02-22 02:17:06] thxforyourbtc! : big money bought that dip
[2017-02-22 02:17:19] ThruTheFloor : BarefootFlash: Look at this chat, it's almost 50/50 up or down.
[2017-02-22 02:17:45] ronensinger : Is micmix still here?
[2017-02-22 02:17:47] confused : l3f: or they held through it
[2017-02-22 02:17:55] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: Yeah, don't listen to them. There's tons of differing opinions about how things work. Then there's just luck.
[2017-02-22 02:18:12] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: Chances are you're going to lose, so always be ready for it.
[2017-02-22 02:18:14] ronensinger : I might arbitrage the futures
[2017-02-22 02:18:16] YOLOCOIN : GUYS PLEASE BUY THE DIP LOL
[2017-02-22 02:18:26] etoque : I buy back
[2017-02-22 02:18:28] YOLOCOIN : PLAS
[2017-02-22 02:18:37] ronensinger : Lol theres a $2 sspread on futures
[2017-02-22 02:18:37] l3f : YOLOCOIN: just don't sell the bottom haha
[2017-02-22 02:19:16] aeos : ronensinger: meaning?
[2017-02-22 02:19:20] etoque : shit
[2017-02-22 02:19:22] ThruTheFloor : We're tanking to 1080, gotta be. 100x short
[2017-02-22 02:19:24] etoque : just lose 10 dollar
[2017-02-22 02:19:26] ronensinger : aeos: It's a big spread
[2017-02-22 02:19:35] ronensinger : I might start making markets on it
[2017-02-22 02:19:46] YOLOCOIN : LMFAO 1080? MORE LIKE 880 LOL
[2017-02-22 02:20:07] l3f : ronensinger: gap is big because of volatility
[2017-02-22 02:20:09] confused : YOLOCOIN: of 1880
[2017-02-22 02:20:11] BarefootFlash : YOLOCOIN: Let's see it, haha. Been waiting
[2017-02-22 02:20:21] ronensinger : l3f: It's attracting me
[2017-02-22 02:20:35] ronensinger : Now thats a spread id like to grab by the *
[2017-02-22 02:20:47] etoque : wtf the price go to 1107 and my long at 1106 got liquidate lol its boring
[2017-02-22 02:21:24] aeos : etoque: mark price?
[2017-02-22 02:21:33] BarefootFlash : Oh dang, mark is down quite a bit, yeah
[2017-02-22 02:21:34] etoque : idk its not here anymore
[2017-02-22 02:21:37] etoque : wtf
[2017-02-22 02:22:36] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: Only shoot for like .50 moves in the market, see how you do
[2017-02-22 02:23:26] ThruTheFloor : $0.50 or 0.50 BTC?
[2017-02-22 02:23:29] BarefootFlash : Still not sure if you're serious :P But maybe someone will find it helpful
[2017-02-22 02:23:32] BarefootFlash : $.50
[2017-02-22 02:23:38] BarefootFlash : Small gains
[2017-02-22 02:24:11] ThruTheFloor : Won't fees take pretty much all of my earnings?
[2017-02-22 02:24:27] BarefootFlash : Not if you don't take any fees
[2017-02-22 02:24:34] ThruTheFloor : ?
[2017-02-22 02:24:35] ronensinger : ThruTheFloor: You'll actually lose money unless you use market orders
[2017-02-22 02:24:42] ronensinger : I mean limit orders
[2017-02-22 02:24:44] ronensinger : Excuse me
[2017-02-22 02:24:56] BarefootFlash : Just never use market orders
[2017-02-22 02:25:00] ThruTheFloor : Limit orders have lower fees?
[2017-02-22 02:25:10] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: Mos def
[2017-02-22 02:25:12] Sultan Pepper : ThruTheFloor: you get paid
[2017-02-22 02:25:18] etoque : spread is too big
[2017-02-22 02:25:19] Sultan Pepper : ThruTheFloor: but shhhhhh
[2017-02-22 02:25:23] etoque : too dangerous margin wtf
[2017-02-22 02:25:25] Sultan Pepper : dont tell anyone
[2017-02-22 02:25:28] YOLOCOIN : another bullish dump damn
[2017-02-22 02:25:30] etoque : I should be in profit now lol
[2017-02-22 02:25:44] BarefootFlash : One hour till payday!
[2017-02-22 02:25:44] YOLOCOIN : prob 1030s
[2017-02-22 02:25:49] BarefootFlash : ^_^//
[2017-02-22 02:25:51] ThruTheFloor : What if I put limit orders above price to force it to fill automatically, does it still count as a limit order?
[2017-02-22 02:26:07] BarefootFlash : That's what a limit order is
[2017-02-22 02:26:15] BarefootFlash : Oh wait, no
[2017-02-22 02:26:19] BarefootFlash : Don't do that
[2017-02-22 02:26:33] BarefootFlash : Also, always check "Post-Only"
[2017-02-22 02:26:39] ThruTheFloor : ?
[2017-02-22 02:26:43] ThruTheFloor : What that do
[2017-02-22 02:26:45] MikeHunt : u get paid if u use the postman
[2017-02-22 02:26:46] BarefootFlash : To make sure you're the maker
[2017-02-22 02:27:13] ubba : etf disapproved
[2017-02-22 02:27:24] ronensinger : ubba: Lmfao
[2017-02-22 02:27:32] ronensinger : No one even trades that market
[2017-02-22 02:27:48] ThruTheFloor : Maker?
[2017-02-22 02:28:01] ThruTheFloor : What happens if I dont check it?
[2017-02-22 02:28:13] ronensinger : ThruTheFloor: I get paid
[2017-02-22 02:28:18] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: postman will go postal on u, 0.075% fee
[2017-02-22 02:28:45] aeos : will i win money if i make and order, and sell at the exact same price? being the maker of both?
[2017-02-22 02:31:24] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: If there are hidden orders at your price, it will buy/sell automatically and you will pay taker fees
[2017-02-22 02:31:31] MikeHunt : aeos: no, postman dont like smart ass, put u in letterbox
[2017-02-22 02:31:47] aeos : MikeHunt: lol
[2017-02-22 02:33:37] cryptokeeper : and here is the bounce
[2017-02-22 02:33:46] cryptokeeper : bye bye shorts
[2017-02-22 02:34:18] BarefootFlash : Hmm... I'm wondering what a non-manipulated market looks like...
[2017-02-22 02:34:25] cryptokeeper : lol
[2017-02-22 02:34:34] cryptokeeper : pretty much every market is
[2017-02-22 02:37:06] thxforyourbtc! : shorts love the pain lmao
[2017-02-22 02:37:50] etoque : oh yeah
[2017-02-22 02:38:12] BarefootFlash : cryptokeeper: Haha
[2017-02-22 02:39:25] Sultan Pepper : Chill. There's a long way up now
[2017-02-22 02:40:10] cryptokeeper : and you would know how
[2017-02-22 02:40:29] etoque : why mergin price going down while real one goes high
[2017-02-22 02:40:38] cryptokeeper : because rage shorting
[2017-02-22 02:40:43] etoque : ???
[2017-02-22 02:40:56] etoque : I long at 1109 and im at -10% profit lol
[2017-02-22 02:41:14] arbitrage101 : which exchange are you long 1109
[2017-02-22 02:41:18] cryptokeeper : let it all play out
[2017-02-22 02:41:20] etoque : here
[2017-02-22 02:41:27] Cryptonary : mark price
[2017-02-22 02:41:31] etoque : 1106
[2017-02-22 02:41:41] etoque : 1105 now
[2017-02-22 02:41:41] cryptokeeper : they have to change that
[2017-02-22 02:41:42] arbitrage101 : ignore mark price if you are not using 20x leverage
[2017-02-22 02:41:52] etoque : im using 50x lol
[2017-02-22 02:42:00] arbitrage101 : good luck then!
[2017-02-22 02:42:37] cryptokeeper : back at 1020
[2017-02-22 02:42:45] cryptokeeper : on the westerns
[2017-02-22 02:42:45] etoque : If I sold at 1110 did im still going to loss ?
[2017-02-22 02:42:55] arbitrage101 : no
[2017-02-22 02:43:01] cryptokeeper : nope
[2017-02-22 02:43:02] arbitrage101 : depend on fee
[2017-02-22 02:43:06] arbitrage101 : taker or maker
[2017-02-22 02:43:13] arbitrage101 : on opening and closing
[2017-02-22 02:43:28] cryptokeeper : OKC USD slow to get memo
[2017-02-22 02:43:35] cryptokeeper : barely anything there lol
[2017-02-22 02:43:46] etoque : finally moving up
[2017-02-22 02:43:50] etoque : im gonna hodl lol
[2017-02-22 02:44:06] cryptokeeper : ride it till the wheels fall off
[2017-02-22 02:44:59] arbitrage101 : when the wheels fall off, the ground will sink
[2017-02-22 02:45:13] arbitrage101 : and the continent will shake
[2017-02-22 02:45:24] cryptokeeper : lol
[2017-02-22 02:45:28] BarefootFlash : arbitrage101: Waiting...
[2017-02-22 02:45:29] etoque : lol
[2017-02-22 02:45:40] cryptokeeper : stamp almost at 1020
[2017-02-22 02:46:03] etoque : stamp and finex same price ?
[2017-02-22 02:46:05] etoque : wut
[2017-02-22 02:46:09] cryptokeeper : WAT
[2017-02-22 02:46:33] cryptokeeper : yeah normally stamp lags back 4-6 bux
[2017-02-22 02:46:39] etoque : yea
[2017-02-22 02:46:53] thxforyourbtc! : means about to bounce hard
[2017-02-22 02:47:30] etoque : its coming up
[2017-02-22 02:47:37] cryptokeeper : we still need to see ATH
[2017-02-22 02:47:40] cryptokeeper : if we will
[2017-02-22 02:47:55] cryptokeeper : we have gone this far... fuck it... lets do it
[2017-02-22 02:49:13] YOLOCOIN : okc usd says NO
[2017-02-22 02:52:25] aeos : are futures included in the funding?
[2017-02-22 02:52:53] cryptokeeper : YOLOCOIN: tell me bout it
[2017-02-22 02:55:51] amaru : lol fuck it
[2017-02-22 02:56:39] MikeHunt : okc wont dump
[2017-02-22 02:56:48] MikeHunt : okc will probably get liquidated
[2017-02-22 02:56:57] MikeHunt : so no dump, just explode entirely
[2017-02-22 02:57:58] ripcord : funding rate is insane
[2017-02-22 02:58:14] MikeHunt : ripcord: it can get a lot worse
[2017-02-22 02:58:18] MikeHunt : 0.375%
[2017-02-22 02:58:38] ripcord : damn
[2017-02-22 02:58:56] etoque : but seriously
[2017-02-22 03:00:39] YOLOCOIN : bull dump
[2017-02-22 03:00:52] etoque : I don't understand the storie of my liquidate here
[2017-02-22 03:00:57] etoque : there's a mod?
[2017-02-22 03:01:23] BitMEX_John : aeos: there is no funding fee paid on futures
[2017-02-22 03:01:43] BarefootFlash : etoque: What was the mark price when you liq'd?
[2017-02-22 03:01:48] BitMEX_John : etoque: if you have been liquidated you will receive an email that explains what has happened
[2017-02-22 03:01:56] etoque : BitMEX_John: thanks I will look this
[2017-02-22 03:02:23] BarefootFlash : Er, when your position disappeared, I guess
[2017-02-22 03:02:31] BitMEX_John : etoque: please note that liquidations are triggered by the mark price, not the last price, of a contract
[2017-02-22 03:03:04] etoque : BitMEX_John: Yes It explain on the mail that the mark price drop 50 cent,very well explain,thanks again lol I take that lost xD !
[2017-02-22 03:03:38] BarefootFlash : etoque: Dang, sorry dude
[2017-02-22 03:03:48] degen : etoque: what kind of leverage you on?
[2017-02-22 03:03:50] etoque : just0.01
[2017-02-22 03:03:54] thxforyourbtc! : If you get liquidated but the normal price didnt drop much only the mark price. And you fill much higher do u get your 'change'?
[2017-02-22 03:03:55] etoque : 100x
[2017-02-22 03:04:00] etoque : but I think im done now with BTC
[2017-02-22 03:04:03] BarefootFlash : Ah
[2017-02-22 03:04:05] etoque : gonna withdrawl and reload alt
[2017-02-22 03:04:13] ubba : you traded 0.01 btc on 100x
[2017-02-22 03:04:19] etoque : yeah
[2017-02-22 03:04:36] ubba : shit mayne my condolences
[2017-02-22 03:05:10] BitMEX_John : thxforyourbtc!: no, the 'change' is put toward the insurance fund https://www.bitmex.com/app/insuranceFund
[2017-02-22 03:05:49] BitMEX_John : thxforyourbtc!: if you are liquidated you will lose all the margin allocated to that position
[2017-02-22 03:05:51] etoque : ubba: haah
[2017-02-22 03:05:52] thxforyourbtc! : IS there a chart available of the mark price?
[2017-02-22 03:06:01] degen : i have added a bit to that fund :/ super high leverage is so tempting
[2017-02-22 03:06:11] sleger : BitMEX_John: who are you Jphn?
[2017-02-22 03:07:22] BitMEX_John : thxforyourbtc!: you should be able to see the mark price on the graph (blue line)
[2017-02-22 03:07:53] thxforyourbtc! : I see a pink line
[2017-02-22 03:07:53] BitMEX_John : sleger: I am a new customer support agent :)
[2017-02-22 03:08:01] thxforyourbtc! : no blue line
[2017-02-22 03:08:02] mxtrad342 : when leveraging... what does cross means?
[2017-02-22 03:08:02] sleger : John Doe ?
[2017-02-22 03:08:06] ubba : i see a blue line
[2017-02-22 03:08:12] MikeHunt : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 03:08:15] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 38.78/61.22 Daily: 42.82/57.18 Weekly: 43.16/56.84 Monthly: 47.49/52.51
[2017-02-22 03:08:21] ubba : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 03:08:23] sleger : /joke
[2017-02-22 03:08:23] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 38.78/61.22 Daily: 42.82/57.18 Weekly: 43.16/56.84 Monthly: 47.49/52.51
[2017-02-22 03:08:33] trollbot : How many fuq bois does it take to screw in a light bulb? None it's always lit fam
[2017-02-22 03:08:44] ubba : ???
[2017-02-22 03:08:48] thxforyourbtc! : i only see a pink line and normal price
[2017-02-22 03:08:51] BitMEX_John : mxtrad342: cross means you are setting your entire available account balance as margin
[2017-02-22 03:08:55] sleger : I dont get this one
[2017-02-22 03:09:15] YOLOCOIN : milk long funds then dump
[2017-02-22 03:09:19] mxtrad342 : ahhhh thanks @BitMEX_John
[2017-02-22 03:10:02] BitMEX_John : thxforyourbtc!: what is the label (right hand side of the graph) of this pink line?
[2017-02-22 03:10:28] thxforyourbtc! : XBT
[2017-02-22 03:10:51] sleger : BitMEX_John: It says "chicken farm" is that a good label ?
[2017-02-22 03:11:22] degen : oh snap you guys try the dark theme? me likey
[2017-02-22 03:12:33] mxtrad342 : degen: thanks, this is lovely
[2017-02-22 03:12:49] BitMEX_John : thxforyourbtc!: great that line represents the index price, which the mark price is based on
[2017-02-22 03:13:14] thxforyourbtc! : why is it so much different?
[2017-02-22 03:14:11] rangle : fomo
[2017-02-22 03:14:36] BitMEX_John : thxforyourbtc!: the index price is based on the price at other exchanges, currently it is 50/50 based on Bitstamp and OKCoin USD
[2017-02-22 03:14:59] thxforyourbtc! : i mean the mark price is normal, just the XBT line is very low. I was wondering if there is a chart of just the mark price
[2017-02-22 03:15:24] degen : BitMEX_John: any plans to reduce the woodchipper's weight?
[2017-02-22 03:15:45] degen : given their volume decrease?
[2017-02-22 03:17:15] BitMEX_John : degen: if there is a decision made on this there will be an announcement, there has been discussion about this as obviously there has been some concern from traders
[2017-02-22 03:17:45] degen : BitMEX_John: good to hear you guys are discussing it
[2017-02-22 03:17:45] thxforyourbtc! : where can i find the woodchipper
[2017-02-22 03:18:06] sleger : In the woods
[2017-02-22 03:19:02] thxforyourbtc! : i mean the exchange...
[2017-02-22 03:19:16] BitMEX_John : thxforyourbtc!: here is a graph of just the XBT index https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBT
[2017-02-22 03:19:48] Sultan Pepper : thxforyourbtc!: o k coin
[2017-02-22 03:19:54] thxforyourbtc! : oh
[2017-02-22 03:20:31] Sultan Pepper : Or okeydokeycoin as we all call it here
[2017-02-22 03:22:13] Sultan Pepper : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3n-9Rsn52Qk
[2017-02-22 03:22:17] BarefootFlash : Nice paydays coming up
[2017-02-22 03:22:29] cryptokeeper : yup
[2017-02-22 03:23:01] BarefootFlash : Not super glad I shorted too early, but at least I get that
[2017-02-22 03:23:42] Sultan Pepper : Did thatceoguy die?
[2017-02-22 03:24:18] BarefootFlash : Sultan Pepper: I don't think so. His liq was around 1200
[2017-02-22 03:24:26] Sultan Pepper : Oh ok
[2017-02-22 03:24:32] BarefootFlash : Unless he lowered his margin and got out with whatever was left
[2017-02-22 03:24:46] Sultan Pepper : He'll be fine
[2017-02-22 03:24:57] BarefootFlash : You don't think it's going up that high?
[2017-02-22 03:25:04] Sultan Pepper : For some period of time
[2017-02-22 03:25:18] Sultan Pepper : between 1 minute and 5 years
[2017-02-22 03:25:46] BarefootFlash : Haha
[2017-02-22 03:26:01] Sultan Pepper : BarefootFlash: for the record, no. But i wont put a short on it
[2017-02-22 03:26:04] cryptokeeper : yeah that is crazy his first trade 10btc
[2017-02-22 03:26:11] cryptokeeper : what can ya do.... we all learn
[2017-02-22 03:26:17] Sultan Pepper : i have low buys though
[2017-02-22 03:26:47] BarefootFlash : Yeah, same
[2017-02-22 03:26:56] BarefootFlash : Well, minus the not having a short already
[2017-02-22 03:27:09] Sultan Pepper : GL!
[2017-02-22 03:27:32] BarefootFlash : I'm not in deep enough to start working both perp and futures, but maybe after this little session I'll start :)
[2017-02-22 03:27:39] Sultan Pepper : I hope you're right, im itchin to get into a good position
[2017-02-22 03:27:44] BarefootFlash : Haha, thanks.
[2017-02-22 03:28:12] BarefootFlash : I caught some good breaks when those knives dropped
[2017-02-22 03:28:46] BarefootFlash : We'll just see what happens
[2017-02-22 03:29:03] Sultan Pepper : I like cooking my trades like I cook my boeuf bourginon. Long, slow, and tasty
[2017-02-22 03:29:46] Sultan Pepper : This hype shit is too much like TV cooking shows for me
[2017-02-22 03:29:56] BarefootFlash : I don't trust the market enough for any intentional long-term positions
[2017-02-22 03:30:11] Sultan Pepper : I do
[2017-02-22 03:30:32] BarefootFlash : Prefer short-term small profits, but tend to get stuck in positions when the price moves a bunch
[2017-02-22 03:30:54] Sultan Pepper : Yeah i tried that and got burned too many times
[2017-02-22 03:30:58] BarefootFlash : Dang
[2017-02-22 03:31:16] Sultan Pepper : i found my success lies in the mid-term
[2017-02-22 03:31:31] BarefootFlash : Being around how long?
[2017-02-22 03:31:45] Sultan Pepper : Whatchu mean?
[2017-02-22 03:32:05] BarefootFlash : Like days, weeks? mid-term
[2017-02-22 03:33:00] Sultan Pepper : Oh, 2-3 weeks has been good to me. I'm looking longer now though. I've only been at this for a few months now
[2017-02-22 03:33:13] BarefootFlash : I think when I understand the market better and trader psychology, I might start moving to more mid- to long-term positions
[2017-02-22 03:33:42] Sultan Pepper : the chop is what was killing me
[2017-02-22 03:33:48] BarefootFlash : what's that?
[2017-02-22 03:33:49] Sultan Pepper : too erratic
[2017-02-22 03:34:07] BarefootFlash : what's the chop?
[2017-02-22 03:34:44] Sultan Pepper : all the up-down ebb and flow over the day
[2017-02-22 03:34:50] Ugly_Old_Goat : Please pay me for the privilege of being long Perp in 25 minutes. Thank you for your support
[2017-02-22 03:35:01] Sultan Pepper : Sometimes i could nail it, but not enough
[2017-02-22 03:35:27] BarefootFlash : Ah
[2017-02-22 03:35:35] BarefootFlash : I love the horizontal market
[2017-02-22 03:35:45] Sultan Pepper : everything "insignifigant"
[2017-02-22 03:35:49] Sultan Pepper : noise
[2017-02-22 03:36:19] BarefootFlash : Tiny profits on every up and down. The patterns are easy to follow
[2017-02-22 03:36:48] BarefootFlash : But when you go bigger scale, there's a lot more to it, and Im' not confident enough yet
[2017-02-22 03:36:57] Sultan Pepper : Until they jostle you out. Maybe you're better at it though. Keep it up if you are
[2017-02-22 03:37:09] gnx100 : china about to announce a sanction on btc. just a heads up
[2017-02-22 03:37:12] Sultan Pepper : and dont get greedy
[2017-02-22 03:37:16] MikeHunt : gnx100: source?
[2017-02-22 03:37:22] BarefootFlash : Yeah, the problem is getting stuck in a position, like now, haha
[2017-02-22 03:37:23] Sultan Pepper : MikeHunt: thx
[2017-02-22 03:37:32] Sultan Pepper : BarefootFlash: yep
[2017-02-22 03:37:59] BarefootFlash : Might be able to start using futures to offset though. Seems like a good strategy
[2017-02-22 03:38:09] Sultan Pepper : BarefootFlash: i've learned to keep a nice safety net. I like sleeping at night
[2017-02-22 03:38:26] BarefootFlash : Haha, thus the get in and get out quick for me
[2017-02-22 03:39:09] Sultan Pepper : BarefootFlash: if you buy into march now, you'll lower your liq point on swap.
[2017-02-22 03:39:17] Sultan Pepper : If you're on cross
[2017-02-22 03:39:24] Sultan Pepper : I think
[2017-02-22 03:39:35] BarefootFlash : No extra atm. All my extra margin is here
[2017-02-22 03:39:40] BarefootFlash : on perp
[2017-02-22 03:40:13] Sultan Pepper : Where is your break even point?
[2017-02-22 03:40:34] sleger : -2500$ish
[2017-02-22 03:40:35] BarefootFlash : When this is over, I'll be lowering my position amounts. Trading with much less contracts at a time
[2017-02-22 03:40:56] BarefootFlash : I moved it up to 1086
[2017-02-22 03:41:07] ronensinger : sleger: Lol
[2017-02-22 03:41:17] Sultan Pepper : If we dip, you should close half
[2017-02-22 03:41:29] BarefootFlash : Yep. Limits set
[2017-02-22 03:41:29] ronensinger : sleger: Do you trade only bitcoin?
[2017-02-22 03:41:40] sleger : no
[2017-02-22 03:41:48] ronensinger : sleger: Stocks?
[2017-02-22 03:41:56] Sultan Pepper : sleger: commodities?
[2017-02-22 03:42:02] ronensinger : Forex?
[2017-02-22 03:42:14] Sultan Pepper : sleger: CS:GO skins?
[2017-02-22 03:42:31] thxforyourbtc! : Pokemon cards
[2017-02-22 03:42:32] aethlios : dog races
[2017-02-22 03:42:38] ronensinger : Sultan Pepper: Lmfao
[2017-02-22 03:43:14] Sultan Pepper : ronensinger: honestly, that's where my capital here came from
[2017-02-22 03:43:33] ronensinger : Sultan Pepper: I've heard it can be profitable
[2017-02-22 03:43:42] ronensinger : Are there still a lot of CSGO casinos?
[2017-02-22 03:44:04] Sultan Pepper : ronensinger: i traded up for a while, but found the real profit in arbitrage of keys
[2017-02-22 03:44:19] ronensinger : Sultan Pepper: Smart guy
[2017-02-22 03:44:30] Sultan Pepper : buying from bots and selling on websites
[2017-02-22 03:44:43] ronensinger : Sultan Pepper: How much do you trade with?
[2017-02-22 03:44:48] ronensinger : Here at bitmex
[2017-02-22 03:45:44] aeos : Sultan Pepper: arb of keys?
[2017-02-22 03:45:56] Sultan Pepper : not much. 1.08 total, but i only keep a quarter of my holding here
[2017-02-22 03:46:26] BarefootFlash : Sultan Pepper: What is your average contract amount?
[2017-02-22 03:46:37] BarefootFlash : for a position
[2017-02-22 03:47:16] Sultan Pepper : aeos: yeah. Buy from bots at 2.1 usd in btc per key, trade for "better" keys, sell keys on website for 2.28 each
[2017-02-22 03:48:06] aeos : Sultan Pepper: sry i'm ingnorant of what keys are