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[2017-02-22 01:34:27] Zen Trader : I literally told yall id dump
[2017-02-22 01:34:35] BarefootFlash : etoque: Tiny dump
[2017-02-22 01:34:40] Sultan Pepper : *The Bitcoin Behemoth has paid all its dues. Then bent us all over and whispered* I love you....
[2017-02-22 01:34:47] etoque : JPY wall is eaten,we're goign down now
[2017-02-22 01:34:57] Zen Trader : Sultan Pepper: love it
[2017-02-22 01:35:11] l3f : aethlios: I hedged at 1119 already
[2017-02-22 01:35:17] l3f : 4h bear div
[2017-02-22 01:35:19] l3f : very dangerous
[2017-02-22 01:35:26] l3f : if we fall out of the channel it's straight down
[2017-02-22 01:35:42] BarefootFlash : l3f: Sounds great, but we'll see
[2017-02-22 01:36:04] l3f : This is a decent dip to buy though
[2017-02-22 01:36:09] l3f : still recommending buy
[2017-02-22 01:36:13] l3f : until we go a bit lower
[2017-02-22 01:36:16] etoque : very risky
[2017-02-22 01:36:17] aethlios : is is all etf news now. wait for the news.
[2017-02-22 01:36:26] l3f : aethlios: nah this is all pump
[2017-02-22 01:36:26] Sultan Pepper : l3f: i fu ckin hope so. I've been waiting for a *good* entry all day
[2017-02-22 01:36:28] etoque : it can down under 1100 and come back in 2 week
[2017-02-22 01:36:42] MikeHunt : maybe another plan, crash it in time for ETF
[2017-02-22 01:36:47] MikeHunt : more buyer friendly
[2017-02-22 01:36:54] Zen Trader : I wouldnt buy on leverage its not actually suggestable im being honest here, it is very risky
[2017-02-22 01:37:37] cryptokeeper : Zen Trader: just have a stop in place
[2017-02-22 01:37:39] Zen Trader : But to be fair I also just opened a short so im biased but I wouldnt suggest that either
[2017-02-22 01:37:40] cryptokeeper : risk
[2017-02-22 01:37:45] cryptokeeper : hahaha
[2017-02-22 01:37:46] l3f : Zen Trader: nah it's fine
[2017-02-22 01:37:46] aethlios : problem is that if no decision until 11th means that etf accepted, so each time that passes with no rejection, market will still going up, and rally hard the weekend 10-12 march
[2017-02-22 01:37:48] MikeHunt : okc has thin orderbook, could get cut down really quickly
[2017-02-22 01:38:01] l3f : Zen Trader: trend is up
[2017-02-22 01:38:20] l3f : bears have little ammo to dump
[2017-02-22 01:38:32] Zen Trader : Trend is when trend is up disrupters act fast to put a stop to it
[2017-02-22 01:38:40] Zen Trader : china
[2017-02-22 01:38:49] cryptokeeper : this wasnt china though
[2017-02-22 01:38:53] cryptokeeper : at all
[2017-02-22 01:39:01] cryptokeeper : just BTFD
[2017-02-22 01:39:20] cryptokeeper : people are rage shorting now
[2017-02-22 01:39:21] Zen Trader : No but someone will do whatever they can to stop the news from being bitcoin reaches new highs
[2017-02-22 01:39:41] cryptokeeper : this is where the pain builds up
[2017-02-22 01:40:10] Zen Trader : rage shorting is a funny term I think of Road rage style traders red in the face
[2017-02-22 01:40:20] cryptokeeper : rage shorting... revenge betting
[2017-02-22 01:40:23] cryptokeeper : u can TOTALLY TELL
[2017-02-22 01:40:29] cryptokeeper : that is exactly what happened there
[2017-02-22 01:41:05] cryptokeeper : bfx and stamp have clear runway past 1120
[2017-02-22 01:41:16] cryptokeeper : good luck shorters
[2017-02-22 01:41:44] aethlios : real news will be btc above gold. many gold bugs are anti-gov anti-systemic, they will ask them selves: should i exchange a few ounces with a few btc as hedge?? also many gold-silver sellers-promoters in internet will start selling btc to their customers.
[2017-02-22 01:42:12] l3f : aethlios: only if etf is approved
[2017-02-22 01:42:20] l3f : a lot of capital i.e. retirement funds can't go into btc
[2017-02-22 01:43:21] aethlios : no i am talking about people buying physical precious metals, they like to hold the real thing.
[2017-02-22 01:43:52] MikeHunt : if ETF passes we could see a lot of funds get LIQ-ed
[2017-02-22 01:43:58] MikeHunt : pump n dump squads will rape them
[2017-02-22 01:44:10] l3f : MikeHunt: lel
[2017-02-22 01:44:24] MikeHunt : i mean we'll all get rich here but little ppl with 9-5 jobs will get raped, a whole lot of em
[2017-02-22 01:44:44] n00bie : anyone ride that short bus?
[2017-02-22 01:44:50] ThatCEOGuy : n00bie:
[2017-02-22 01:44:55] l3f : n00bie: just the hedge bus
[2017-02-22 01:45:23] aethlios : if no news until friday could have a weekend rally??
[2017-02-22 01:45:45] Dynamix : Should I open a long and go to sleep ?
[2017-02-22 01:46:05] MikeHunt : Dynamix: u might wish u never woke up if u do
[2017-02-22 01:46:17] Dynamix : Lolol
[2017-02-22 01:46:19] l3f : aethlios: dunno but the divergences building up through the timeframes is concerning
[2017-02-22 01:46:30] Dynamix : Common u tjink it will dump ?
[2017-02-22 01:46:33] MikeHunt : 1hr/4hr suggest big dump coming
[2017-02-22 01:46:34] l3f : if it was real news instead of fomo we won't be diverging
[2017-02-22 01:46:57] MikeHunt : need mini-dump every now and again to shake off fomo bulls
[2017-02-22 01:47:11] MikeHunt : and high lvg traders
[2017-02-22 01:47:16] l3f : divergence is different
[2017-02-22 01:47:31] MikeHunt : l3f: u talking bout breaking out of the upward channel?
[2017-02-22 01:47:38] BarefootFlash : l3f: What do you mean?
[2017-02-22 01:47:41] l3f : no I'm talking about divergence on 1h, 4h
[2017-02-22 01:47:48] yungyang : Volume down price up
[2017-02-22 01:48:04] l3f : Also volume decreaing on upward pushes
[2017-02-22 01:48:07] aethlios : things will get really wild, volatility will be huge, highest since 2013 crashes, so price action now is a little irrelevant.
[2017-02-22 01:48:09] ThruTheFloor : Does that mean I should close my long?
[2017-02-22 01:48:20] l3f : ThruTheFloor: nah it is still good to buy dips
[2017-02-22 01:48:26] etoque : lol run
[2017-02-22 01:48:35] l3f : no shorting
[2017-02-22 01:48:51] etoque : short 100x
[2017-02-22 01:48:56] ronensinger : This is wild
[2017-02-22 01:49:03] ronensinger : Me gusta mucho
[2017-02-22 01:49:33] Cryptonary : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 01:49:36] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 72.05/27.95 Daily: 43.35/56.65 Weekly: 43.16/56.84 Monthly: 47.49/52.52
[2017-02-22 01:49:39] ronensinger : /joke
[2017-02-22 01:49:44] trollbot : A stranger just came up to me and told me she was vegan... I swear I've met herbivore
[2017-02-22 01:50:01] Dynamix : Set my limits hehe
[2017-02-22 01:50:07] MikeHunt : @rapidtrades you there?
[2017-02-22 01:50:12] n00bie : missed your chance to short
[2017-02-22 01:50:48] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: yes y
[2017-02-22 01:51:18] paper : i nibbled down here. but i don't short bull mkt
[2017-02-22 01:51:27] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: $700 ur budget?
[2017-02-22 01:51:55] Dynamix : Big dip incomming
[2017-02-22 01:52:04] etoque : yes
[2017-02-22 01:52:05] rapidtrades : i said 700-1200
[2017-02-22 01:52:05] etoque : its a trap
[2017-02-22 01:52:15] etoque : going much lower
[2017-02-22 01:52:50] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: oh i thought u were talking about btc lol
[2017-02-22 01:55:06] rapidtrades : im kinda torn between gaming laptop and ultrabook
[2017-02-22 01:55:18] paper : ppl will buy any dip you throw at them, no matter how shallow
[2017-02-22 01:55:32] rapidtrades : paper: glad u noticed
[2017-02-22 01:55:34] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: well it depends on ur needs, is it just for trading/browsing or?
[2017-02-22 01:55:44] rapidtrades : yeah trading main function
[2017-02-22 01:55:52] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: anything else?
[2017-02-22 01:55:55] degen : dump it
[2017-02-22 01:56:06] rapidtrades : idk programming doesnt need much resources does it?
[2017-02-22 01:56:18] BarefootFlash : rapidtrades: Thinking the same thing here, re new latptop
[2017-02-22 01:56:38] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: mkay so mainly CPU based stuff
[2017-02-22 01:56:50] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: does portability matter a lot?
[2017-02-22 01:57:10] rapidtrades : yes, i travel a lot
[2017-02-22 01:57:54] rapidgains : linux or osx for dev
[2017-02-22 01:58:32] rapidtrades : whats considered mid-range for laptops now? is it i5 machine or what
[2017-02-22 01:58:46] rapidtrades : i5 8gb?
[2017-02-22 01:59:12] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: https://www.amazon.com/ZenBook-UX303UB-13-3-Inch-Touchscreen-Discrete/dp/B014VHW24Y/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1487728690&sr=1-3&keywords=ASUS%2BZenBook&th=1
[2017-02-22 01:59:36] MikeHunt : only slightly heavier than the one u posted
[2017-02-22 02:00:14] MikeHunt : 15" screen
[2017-02-22 02:00:21] rapidtrades : whats the different with the one i posted
[2017-02-22 02:00:28] MikeHunt : bigger screen and faster processor
[2017-02-22 02:00:42] rapidtrades : it says 13.3 inch bra
[2017-02-22 02:00:45] ronensinger : MikeHunt: Good day today?
[2017-02-22 02:00:53] rapidtrades : also wasn't mine i5 too
[2017-02-22 02:01:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 3000 @ 1126.31
[2017-02-22 02:01:05] ronensinger : 25k whale is trading
[2017-02-22 02:01:25] ronensinger : Wholy crap
[2017-02-22 02:01:41] MikeHunt : ronensinger: $60 up
[2017-02-22 02:01:46] ThruTheFloor : Welp that was me. Just got REKT, thanks guys
[2017-02-22 02:01:50] ronensinger : MikeHunt: Solid, solid
[2017-02-22 02:01:58] ronensinger : ThruTheFloor: That was you?
[2017-02-22 02:01:59] ronensinger : No way
[2017-02-22 02:02:04] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: oops yeh has got same screen size, prob not worth extra $130 then
[2017-02-22 02:02:10] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: No way, seriously?
[2017-02-22 02:02:26] ThruTheFloor : YOU ASSHOLES TOLD ME TO BUY THE DIP WTF
[2017-02-22 02:02:33] etoque : LOL
[2017-02-22 02:02:35] aeos : ThruTheFloor: 100x?
[2017-02-22 02:02:38] etoque : I told you I short x100
[2017-02-22 02:02:39] ThruTheFloor : LAST TIME I LISTEN TO YOI NIGGRS
[2017-02-22 02:02:40] rapidtrades : ThruTheFloor: try again bra
[2017-02-22 02:02:42] rapidtrades : depsoit more
[2017-02-22 02:02:47] etoque : when I use x100 im pretty sure lol
[2017-02-22 02:02:52] BarefootFlash : rapidtrades: ++
[2017-02-22 02:02:55] ThruTheFloor : ARGH
[2017-02-22 02:02:58] rapidtrades : this cant be the end cos bitcoin only goes up
[2017-02-22 02:03:20] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: That is a lie
[2017-02-22 02:03:26] ThruTheFloor : omg
[2017-02-22 02:03:29] etoque : even in a bull market it can't goes always up
[2017-02-22 02:03:46] ThruTheFloor : Honey badger does whatever it wants
[2017-02-22 02:03:57] rapidtrades : yeah the one i posted is great value i think @MikeHunt
[2017-02-22 02:04:23] rapidtrades : performance is not great tho
[2017-02-22 02:04:40] ThruTheFloor : Should I try again? Long or short?
[2017-02-22 02:04:48] l3f : ThruTheFloor: your trades are panic trades
[2017-02-22 02:04:54] rapidtrades : long 100/1
[2017-02-22 02:04:57] l3f : you need to learn to value of holding
[2017-02-22 02:04:59] ThruTheFloor : Shh nah I got this
[2017-02-22 02:05:04] rapidtrades : do it now or ull miss it
[2017-02-22 02:05:09] l3f : you can make money short or long
[2017-02-22 02:05:29] rapidtrades : dont be like that BK guy that has to go back to his J.O.B.
[2017-02-22 02:05:44] Cryptonary : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 02:05:46] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 76.96/23.04 Daily: 43.53/56.47 Weekly: 43.22/56.78 Monthly: 47.49/52.51
[2017-02-22 02:05:54] ThruTheFloor : Oh God no. Please I don't want to go back to actually working for my money
[2017-02-22 02:06:31] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: how much of tat 3k was ur capital?
[2017-02-22 02:06:35] Dynamix : ThruTheFloor: haha
[2017-02-22 02:06:40] ThruTheFloor : I was 100x so not much
[2017-02-22 02:07:05] ThruTheFloor : So... go long again?
[2017-02-22 02:07:15] ThruTheFloor : You guys sure its just a dip?
[2017-02-22 02:07:17] etoque : nah
[2017-02-22 02:07:28] etoque : it might really crash a little here
[2017-02-22 02:07:35] ThruTheFloor : Might?
[2017-02-22 02:07:48] ThruTheFloor : So... short?
[2017-02-22 02:07:50] etoque : correction
[2017-02-22 02:07:51] Dynamix : It will dump to 1080
[2017-02-22 02:07:53] etoque : yes
[2017-02-22 02:07:58] Dynamix : soon maybe
[2017-02-22 02:08:04] etoque : maybe not in one shot too
[2017-02-22 02:08:06] micmix : it's free money now, just buy all dips, not 100x though
[2017-02-22 02:08:14] Dynamix : ThruTheFloor: nobodybknows dontnplace ur bet using us lol
[2017-02-22 02:08:20] etoque : yeah in 6 month holding
[2017-02-22 02:08:26] Dynamix : I put limits
[2017-02-22 02:08:29] etoque : lol now tomorrow it may be lower
[2017-02-22 02:08:33] Dynamix : So im good
[2017-02-22 02:08:39] ThruTheFloor : Damn it, one person says 1080 correction, another says buy the dips, wtf. Who do I listen to
[2017-02-22 02:08:56] InvalidUser : Yourself
[2017-02-22 02:08:58] micmix : listen to both, buy futures, sell swap
[2017-02-22 02:09:52] rapidgains : ThruTheFloor: yourself
[2017-02-22 02:09:53] YOLOCOIN : BUY THE DIP LOL
[2017-02-22 02:10:03] ThruTheFloor : ARGH
[2017-02-22 02:10:08] ThruTheFloor : Should I flip a coin?
[2017-02-22 02:10:16] YOLOCOIN : rekt nuggets
[2017-02-22 02:10:32] rapidtrades : micmix: no
[2017-02-22 02:10:35] YOLOCOIN : MEGA BEAR
[2017-02-22 02:10:37] rapidtrades : YOLO SWAP 100/1
[2017-02-22 02:10:51] micmix : rapidtrades: yeah, yolo is always better
[2017-02-22 02:11:04] YOLOCOIN : YOLO IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO
[2017-02-22 02:11:06] ronensinger : ThruTheFloor: Listen to yourself
[2017-02-22 02:11:09] YOLOCOIN : GAMBLER STYLE
[2017-02-22 02:11:11] ronensinger : micmix: Whats up micmix?
[2017-02-22 02:11:36] micmix : ronensinger: nothing much, going to have dinner with my family
[2017-02-22 02:11:45] ThruTheFloor : ronensinger: I don't trust myself. I have no idea what I'm doing
[2017-02-22 02:12:15] etoque : LOL
[2017-02-22 02:12:19] rapidtrades : ThruTheFloor: wait ur srs?
[2017-02-22 02:12:29] ronensinger : micmix: Profitable day today?
[2017-02-22 02:12:37] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: Take a break
[2017-02-22 02:12:41] micmix : ronensinger: yeah, pretty good
[2017-02-22 02:12:49] rapidtrades : I thought u were doing an act like me lol
[2017-02-22 02:12:50] ronensinger : micmix: Pretty good for me as well
[2017-02-22 02:12:53] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: Just watch for a while
[2017-02-22 02:12:54] l3f : If it doesn't bounce it's going to doom
[2017-02-22 02:12:57] ronensinger : What percentage are you up today?
[2017-02-22 02:13:11] l3f : strong hands will buy here
[2017-02-22 02:13:32] l3f : weak hands need not to apply
[2017-02-22 02:13:32] rapidtrades : very strong hands
[2017-02-22 02:13:32] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: Take another break, then start again with tiny amounts until you get used to it.
[2017-02-22 02:13:51] ronensinger : BarefootFlash: Personally, I believe that no one can beat the markets
[2017-02-22 02:13:57] ronensinger : Maybe 1% of all traders
[2017-02-22 02:14:04] BarefootFlash : People do though
[2017-02-22 02:14:10] ronensinger : Yeah, 1%
[2017-02-22 02:14:15] micmix : ronensinger: about 1.5% in USD terms so far
[2017-02-22 02:14:28] ronensinger : micmix: And how much USD is that, if you don't mind me asking?
[2017-02-22 02:14:30] narnarfromnarnia : not enough big rekts yet
[2017-02-22 02:14:33] Sultan Pepper : Happy CEO month everyone!
[2017-02-22 02:14:34] confused : ronensinger: 80/20 rule
[2017-02-22 02:14:48] micmix : ronensinger: not saying that lol
[2017-02-22 02:14:56] BarefootFlash : ronensinger: The nature of the game is that for anyone to make a profit, a bunch of other have to lose
[2017-02-22 02:15:02] ronensinger : micmix: How many figures. I want to compare it to me
[2017-02-22 02:15:05] BarefootFlash : So yeah, of course
[2017-02-22 02:15:17] etoque : look I have lose all day long now finally profitable
[2017-02-22 02:15:24] ThruTheFloor : BarefootFlash: Used to what? How can you guess if it goes up or down? It's just luck
[2017-02-22 02:15:35] ronensinger : micmix: More than 3 figures?
[2017-02-22 02:15:41] confused : trading all money management
[2017-02-22 02:15:52] confused : direction doesnt matter
[2017-02-22 02:15:59] micmix : ronensinger: no comment
[2017-02-22 02:16:03] confused : its how well you manage your account
[2017-02-22 02:16:09] ronensinger : micmix: Come on, man.
[2017-02-22 02:16:20] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: seems the only alternative is this: http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/xps-13-9360-laptop/fncwt5135hv2?selectionState=eyJGUHJpY2UiOjExMjQuOTksIk9DIjoiZm5jd3Q1MTM1aHYyIiwiUXR5IjoxLCJNb2RzIjpbeyJJZCI6OCwiT3B0cyI6W3siSWQiOiIyNTZTRFAiLCJQcmljZSI6MjAwLjB9XX0seyJJZCI6NCwiT3B0cyI6W3siSWQiOiJFTkdLQkZQIiwiUHJpY2UiOjI1LjB9XX0seyJJZCI6NTcyLCJPcHRzIjpbeyJJZCI6IkZHMDAwNyJ9XX1dfQ%253D%253D
[2017-02-22 02:16:23] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: Get a better idea of how the market moves, what people are thinking. Small gains, then compound.
[2017-02-22 02:16:25] etoque : rebounce
[2017-02-22 02:16:29] ronensinger : micmix: Just answer this. Do you make a living off bitmex?
[2017-02-22 02:16:36] l3f : strong hands bought the dip
[2017-02-22 02:16:50] etoque : now its look cheap
[2017-02-22 02:17:06] thxforyourbtc! : big money bought that dip
[2017-02-22 02:17:19] ThruTheFloor : BarefootFlash: Look at this chat, it's almost 50/50 up or down.
[2017-02-22 02:17:45] ronensinger : Is micmix still here?
[2017-02-22 02:17:47] confused : l3f: or they held through it
[2017-02-22 02:17:55] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: Yeah, don't listen to them. There's tons of differing opinions about how things work. Then there's just luck.
[2017-02-22 02:18:12] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: Chances are you're going to lose, so always be ready for it.
[2017-02-22 02:18:14] ronensinger : I might arbitrage the futures
[2017-02-22 02:18:16] YOLOCOIN : GUYS PLEASE BUY THE DIP LOL
[2017-02-22 02:18:26] etoque : I buy back
[2017-02-22 02:18:28] YOLOCOIN : PLAS
[2017-02-22 02:18:37] ronensinger : Lol theres a $2 sspread on futures
[2017-02-22 02:18:37] l3f : YOLOCOIN: just don't sell the bottom haha
[2017-02-22 02:19:16] aeos : ronensinger: meaning?
[2017-02-22 02:19:20] etoque : shit
[2017-02-22 02:19:22] ThruTheFloor : We're tanking to 1080, gotta be. 100x short
[2017-02-22 02:19:24] etoque : just lose 10 dollar
[2017-02-22 02:19:26] ronensinger : aeos: It's a big spread
[2017-02-22 02:19:35] ronensinger : I might start making markets on it
[2017-02-22 02:19:46] YOLOCOIN : LMFAO 1080? MORE LIKE 880 LOL
[2017-02-22 02:20:07] l3f : ronensinger: gap is big because of volatility
[2017-02-22 02:20:09] confused : YOLOCOIN: of 1880
[2017-02-22 02:20:11] BarefootFlash : YOLOCOIN: Let's see it, haha. Been waiting
[2017-02-22 02:20:21] ronensinger : l3f: It's attracting me
[2017-02-22 02:20:35] ronensinger : Now thats a spread id like to grab by the *
[2017-02-22 02:20:47] etoque : wtf the price go to 1107 and my long at 1106 got liquidate lol its boring
[2017-02-22 02:21:24] aeos : etoque: mark price?
[2017-02-22 02:21:33] BarefootFlash : Oh dang, mark is down quite a bit, yeah
[2017-02-22 02:21:34] etoque : idk its not here anymore
[2017-02-22 02:21:37] etoque : wtf
[2017-02-22 02:22:36] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: Only shoot for like .50 moves in the market, see how you do
[2017-02-22 02:23:26] ThruTheFloor : $0.50 or 0.50 BTC?
[2017-02-22 02:23:29] BarefootFlash : Still not sure if you're serious :P But maybe someone will find it helpful
[2017-02-22 02:23:32] BarefootFlash : $.50
[2017-02-22 02:23:38] BarefootFlash : Small gains
[2017-02-22 02:24:11] ThruTheFloor : Won't fees take pretty much all of my earnings?
[2017-02-22 02:24:27] BarefootFlash : Not if you don't take any fees
[2017-02-22 02:24:34] ThruTheFloor : ?
[2017-02-22 02:24:35] ronensinger : ThruTheFloor: You'll actually lose money unless you use market orders
[2017-02-22 02:24:42] ronensinger : I mean limit orders
[2017-02-22 02:24:44] ronensinger : Excuse me
[2017-02-22 02:24:56] BarefootFlash : Just never use market orders
[2017-02-22 02:25:00] ThruTheFloor : Limit orders have lower fees?
[2017-02-22 02:25:10] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: Mos def
[2017-02-22 02:25:12] Sultan Pepper : ThruTheFloor: you get paid
[2017-02-22 02:25:18] etoque : spread is too big
[2017-02-22 02:25:19] Sultan Pepper : ThruTheFloor: but shhhhhh
[2017-02-22 02:25:23] etoque : too dangerous margin wtf
[2017-02-22 02:25:25] Sultan Pepper : dont tell anyone
[2017-02-22 02:25:28] YOLOCOIN : another bullish dump damn
[2017-02-22 02:25:30] etoque : I should be in profit now lol
[2017-02-22 02:25:44] BarefootFlash : One hour till payday!
[2017-02-22 02:25:44] YOLOCOIN : prob 1030s
[2017-02-22 02:25:49] BarefootFlash : ^_^//
[2017-02-22 02:25:51] ThruTheFloor : What if I put limit orders above price to force it to fill automatically, does it still count as a limit order?
[2017-02-22 02:26:07] BarefootFlash : That's what a limit order is
[2017-02-22 02:26:15] BarefootFlash : Oh wait, no
[2017-02-22 02:26:19] BarefootFlash : Don't do that
[2017-02-22 02:26:33] BarefootFlash : Also, always check "Post-Only"
[2017-02-22 02:26:39] ThruTheFloor : ?
[2017-02-22 02:26:43] ThruTheFloor : What that do
[2017-02-22 02:26:45] MikeHunt : u get paid if u use the postman
[2017-02-22 02:26:46] BarefootFlash : To make sure you're the maker
[2017-02-22 02:27:13] ubba : etf disapproved
[2017-02-22 02:27:24] ronensinger : ubba: Lmfao
[2017-02-22 02:27:32] ronensinger : No one even trades that market
[2017-02-22 02:27:48] ThruTheFloor : Maker?
[2017-02-22 02:28:01] ThruTheFloor : What happens if I dont check it?
[2017-02-22 02:28:13] ronensinger : ThruTheFloor: I get paid
[2017-02-22 02:28:18] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: postman will go postal on u, 0.075% fee
[2017-02-22 02:28:45] aeos : will i win money if i make and order, and sell at the exact same price? being the maker of both?
[2017-02-22 02:31:24] BarefootFlash : ThruTheFloor: If there are hidden orders at your price, it will buy/sell automatically and you will pay taker fees
[2017-02-22 02:31:31] MikeHunt : aeos: no, postman dont like smart ass, put u in letterbox
[2017-02-22 02:31:47] aeos : MikeHunt: lol
[2017-02-22 02:33:37] cryptokeeper : and here is the bounce
[2017-02-22 02:33:46] cryptokeeper : bye bye shorts
[2017-02-22 02:34:18] BarefootFlash : Hmm... I'm wondering what a non-manipulated market looks like...
[2017-02-22 02:34:25] cryptokeeper : lol
[2017-02-22 02:34:34] cryptokeeper : pretty much every market is
[2017-02-22 02:37:06] thxforyourbtc! : shorts love the pain lmao
[2017-02-22 02:37:50] etoque : oh yeah
[2017-02-22 02:38:12] BarefootFlash : cryptokeeper: Haha
[2017-02-22 02:39:25] Sultan Pepper : Chill. There's a long way up now
[2017-02-22 02:40:10] cryptokeeper : and you would know how
[2017-02-22 02:40:29] etoque : why mergin price going down while real one goes high
[2017-02-22 02:40:38] cryptokeeper : because rage shorting
[2017-02-22 02:40:43] etoque : ???
[2017-02-22 02:40:56] etoque : I long at 1109 and im at -10% profit lol
[2017-02-22 02:41:14] arbitrage101 : which exchange are you long 1109
[2017-02-22 02:41:18] cryptokeeper : let it all play out
[2017-02-22 02:41:20] etoque : here
[2017-02-22 02:41:27] Cryptonary : mark price
[2017-02-22 02:41:31] etoque : 1106
[2017-02-22 02:41:41] etoque : 1105 now
[2017-02-22 02:41:41] cryptokeeper : they have to change that
[2017-02-22 02:41:42] arbitrage101 : ignore mark price if you are not using 20x leverage
[2017-02-22 02:41:52] etoque : im using 50x lol
[2017-02-22 02:42:00] arbitrage101 : good luck then!
[2017-02-22 02:42:37] cryptokeeper : back at 1020
[2017-02-22 02:42:45] cryptokeeper : on the westerns
[2017-02-22 02:42:45] etoque : If I sold at 1110 did im still going to loss ?
[2017-02-22 02:42:55] arbitrage101 : no
[2017-02-22 02:43:01] cryptokeeper : nope
[2017-02-22 02:43:02] arbitrage101 : depend on fee
[2017-02-22 02:43:06] arbitrage101 : taker or maker
[2017-02-22 02:43:13] arbitrage101 : on opening and closing
[2017-02-22 02:43:28] cryptokeeper : OKC USD slow to get memo
[2017-02-22 02:43:35] cryptokeeper : barely anything there lol
[2017-02-22 02:43:46] etoque : finally moving up
[2017-02-22 02:43:50] etoque : im gonna hodl lol
[2017-02-22 02:44:06] cryptokeeper : ride it till the wheels fall off
[2017-02-22 02:44:59] arbitrage101 : when the wheels fall off, the ground will sink
[2017-02-22 02:45:13] arbitrage101 : and the continent will shake
[2017-02-22 02:45:24] cryptokeeper : lol
[2017-02-22 02:45:28] BarefootFlash : arbitrage101: Waiting...
[2017-02-22 02:45:29] etoque : lol
[2017-02-22 02:45:40] cryptokeeper : stamp almost at 1020
[2017-02-22 02:46:03] etoque : stamp and finex same price ?
[2017-02-22 02:46:05] etoque : wut
[2017-02-22 02:46:09] cryptokeeper : WAT
[2017-02-22 02:46:33] cryptokeeper : yeah normally stamp lags back 4-6 bux
[2017-02-22 02:46:39] etoque : yea
[2017-02-22 02:46:53] thxforyourbtc! : means about to bounce hard
[2017-02-22 02:47:30] etoque : its coming up
[2017-02-22 02:47:37] cryptokeeper : we still need to see ATH
[2017-02-22 02:47:40] cryptokeeper : if we will
[2017-02-22 02:47:55] cryptokeeper : we have gone this far... fuck it... lets do it
[2017-02-22 02:49:13] YOLOCOIN : okc usd says NO
[2017-02-22 02:52:25] aeos : are futures included in the funding?
[2017-02-22 02:52:53] cryptokeeper : YOLOCOIN: tell me bout it
[2017-02-22 02:55:51] amaru : lol fuck it
[2017-02-22 02:56:39] MikeHunt : okc wont dump
[2017-02-22 02:56:48] MikeHunt : okc will probably get liquidated
[2017-02-22 02:56:57] MikeHunt : so no dump, just explode entirely
[2017-02-22 02:57:58] ripcord : funding rate is insane
[2017-02-22 02:58:14] MikeHunt : ripcord: it can get a lot worse
[2017-02-22 02:58:18] MikeHunt : 0.375%
[2017-02-22 02:58:38] ripcord : damn
[2017-02-22 02:58:56] etoque : but seriously
[2017-02-22 03:00:39] YOLOCOIN : bull dump
[2017-02-22 03:00:52] etoque : I don't understand the storie of my liquidate here
[2017-02-22 03:00:57] etoque : there's a mod?
[2017-02-22 03:01:23] BitMEX_John : aeos: there is no funding fee paid on futures
[2017-02-22 03:01:43] BarefootFlash : etoque: What was the mark price when you liq'd?
[2017-02-22 03:01:48] BitMEX_John : etoque: if you have been liquidated you will receive an email that explains what has happened
[2017-02-22 03:01:56] etoque : BitMEX_John: thanks I will look this
[2017-02-22 03:02:23] BarefootFlash : Er, when your position disappeared, I guess
[2017-02-22 03:02:31] BitMEX_John : etoque: please note that liquidations are triggered by the mark price, not the last price, of a contract
[2017-02-22 03:03:04] etoque : BitMEX_John: Yes It explain on the mail that the mark price drop 50 cent,very well explain,thanks again lol I take that lost xD !
[2017-02-22 03:03:38] BarefootFlash : etoque: Dang, sorry dude
[2017-02-22 03:03:48] degen : etoque: what kind of leverage you on?
[2017-02-22 03:03:50] etoque : just0.01
[2017-02-22 03:03:54] thxforyourbtc! : If you get liquidated but the normal price didnt drop much only the mark price. And you fill much higher do u get your 'change'?
[2017-02-22 03:03:55] etoque : 100x
[2017-02-22 03:04:00] etoque : but I think im done now with BTC
[2017-02-22 03:04:03] BarefootFlash : Ah
[2017-02-22 03:04:05] etoque : gonna withdrawl and reload alt
[2017-02-22 03:04:13] ubba : you traded 0.01 btc on 100x
[2017-02-22 03:04:19] etoque : yeah
[2017-02-22 03:04:36] ubba : shit mayne my condolences
[2017-02-22 03:05:10] BitMEX_John : thxforyourbtc!: no, the 'change' is put toward the insurance fund https://www.bitmex.com/app/insuranceFund
[2017-02-22 03:05:49] BitMEX_John : thxforyourbtc!: if you are liquidated you will lose all the margin allocated to that position
[2017-02-22 03:05:51] etoque : ubba: haah
[2017-02-22 03:05:52] thxforyourbtc! : IS there a chart available of the mark price?
[2017-02-22 03:06:01] degen : i have added a bit to that fund :/ super high leverage is so tempting
[2017-02-22 03:06:11] sleger : BitMEX_John: who are you Jphn?
[2017-02-22 03:07:22] BitMEX_John : thxforyourbtc!: you should be able to see the mark price on the graph (blue line)
[2017-02-22 03:07:53] thxforyourbtc! : I see a pink line
[2017-02-22 03:07:53] BitMEX_John : sleger: I am a new customer support agent :)
[2017-02-22 03:08:01] thxforyourbtc! : no blue line
[2017-02-22 03:08:02] mxtrad342 : when leveraging... what does cross means?
[2017-02-22 03:08:02] sleger : John Doe ?
[2017-02-22 03:08:06] ubba : i see a blue line
[2017-02-22 03:08:12] MikeHunt : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 03:08:15] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 38.78/61.22 Daily: 42.82/57.18 Weekly: 43.16/56.84 Monthly: 47.49/52.51
[2017-02-22 03:08:21] ubba : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 03:08:23] sleger : /joke
[2017-02-22 03:08:23] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 38.78/61.22 Daily: 42.82/57.18 Weekly: 43.16/56.84 Monthly: 47.49/52.51
[2017-02-22 03:08:33] trollbot : How many fuq bois does it take to screw in a light bulb? None it's always lit fam
[2017-02-22 03:08:44] ubba : ???
[2017-02-22 03:08:48] thxforyourbtc! : i only see a pink line and normal price
[2017-02-22 03:08:51] BitMEX_John : mxtrad342: cross means you are setting your entire available account balance as margin
[2017-02-22 03:08:55] sleger : I dont get this one
[2017-02-22 03:09:15] YOLOCOIN : milk long funds then dump
[2017-02-22 03:09:19] mxtrad342 : ahhhh thanks @BitMEX_John
[2017-02-22 03:10:02] BitMEX_John : thxforyourbtc!: what is the label (right hand side of the graph) of this pink line?
[2017-02-22 03:10:28] thxforyourbtc! : XBT
[2017-02-22 03:10:51] sleger : BitMEX_John: It says "chicken farm" is that a good label ?
[2017-02-22 03:11:22] degen : oh snap you guys try the dark theme? me likey
[2017-02-22 03:12:33] mxtrad342 : degen: thanks, this is lovely
[2017-02-22 03:12:49] BitMEX_John : thxforyourbtc!: great that line represents the index price, which the mark price is based on
[2017-02-22 03:13:14] thxforyourbtc! : why is it so much different?
[2017-02-22 03:14:11] rangle : fomo
[2017-02-22 03:14:36] BitMEX_John : thxforyourbtc!: the index price is based on the price at other exchanges, currently it is 50/50 based on Bitstamp and OKCoin USD
[2017-02-22 03:14:59] thxforyourbtc! : i mean the mark price is normal, just the XBT line is very low. I was wondering if there is a chart of just the mark price
[2017-02-22 03:15:24] degen : BitMEX_John: any plans to reduce the woodchipper's weight?
[2017-02-22 03:15:45] degen : given their volume decrease?
[2017-02-22 03:17:15] BitMEX_John : degen: if there is a decision made on this there will be an announcement, there has been discussion about this as obviously there has been some concern from traders
[2017-02-22 03:17:45] degen : BitMEX_John: good to hear you guys are discussing it
[2017-02-22 03:17:45] thxforyourbtc! : where can i find the woodchipper
[2017-02-22 03:18:06] sleger : In the woods
[2017-02-22 03:19:02] thxforyourbtc! : i mean the exchange...
[2017-02-22 03:19:16] BitMEX_John : thxforyourbtc!: here is a graph of just the XBT index https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.XBT
[2017-02-22 03:19:48] Sultan Pepper : thxforyourbtc!: o k coin
[2017-02-22 03:19:54] thxforyourbtc! : oh
[2017-02-22 03:20:31] Sultan Pepper : Or okeydokeycoin as we all call it here
[2017-02-22 03:22:13] Sultan Pepper : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3n-9Rsn52Qk
[2017-02-22 03:22:17] BarefootFlash : Nice paydays coming up
[2017-02-22 03:22:29] cryptokeeper : yup
[2017-02-22 03:23:01] BarefootFlash : Not super glad I shorted too early, but at least I get that
[2017-02-22 03:23:42] Sultan Pepper : Did thatceoguy die?
[2017-02-22 03:24:18] BarefootFlash : Sultan Pepper: I don't think so. His liq was around 1200
[2017-02-22 03:24:26] Sultan Pepper : Oh ok
[2017-02-22 03:24:32] BarefootFlash : Unless he lowered his margin and got out with whatever was left
[2017-02-22 03:24:46] Sultan Pepper : He'll be fine
[2017-02-22 03:24:57] BarefootFlash : You don't think it's going up that high?
[2017-02-22 03:25:04] Sultan Pepper : For some period of time
[2017-02-22 03:25:18] Sultan Pepper : between 1 minute and 5 years
[2017-02-22 03:25:46] BarefootFlash : Haha
[2017-02-22 03:26:01] Sultan Pepper : BarefootFlash: for the record, no. But i wont put a short on it
[2017-02-22 03:26:04] cryptokeeper : yeah that is crazy his first trade 10btc
[2017-02-22 03:26:11] cryptokeeper : what can ya do.... we all learn
[2017-02-22 03:26:17] Sultan Pepper : i have low buys though
[2017-02-22 03:26:47] BarefootFlash : Yeah, same
[2017-02-22 03:26:56] BarefootFlash : Well, minus the not having a short already
[2017-02-22 03:27:09] Sultan Pepper : GL!
[2017-02-22 03:27:32] BarefootFlash : I'm not in deep enough to start working both perp and futures, but maybe after this little session I'll start :)
[2017-02-22 03:27:39] Sultan Pepper : I hope you're right, im itchin to get into a good position
[2017-02-22 03:27:44] BarefootFlash : Haha, thanks.
[2017-02-22 03:28:12] BarefootFlash : I caught some good breaks when those knives dropped
[2017-02-22 03:28:46] BarefootFlash : We'll just see what happens
[2017-02-22 03:29:03] Sultan Pepper : I like cooking my trades like I cook my boeuf bourginon. Long, slow, and tasty
[2017-02-22 03:29:46] Sultan Pepper : This hype shit is too much like TV cooking shows for me
[2017-02-22 03:29:56] BarefootFlash : I don't trust the market enough for any intentional long-term positions
[2017-02-22 03:30:11] Sultan Pepper : I do
[2017-02-22 03:30:32] BarefootFlash : Prefer short-term small profits, but tend to get stuck in positions when the price moves a bunch
[2017-02-22 03:30:54] Sultan Pepper : Yeah i tried that and got burned too many times
[2017-02-22 03:30:58] BarefootFlash : Dang
[2017-02-22 03:31:16] Sultan Pepper : i found my success lies in the mid-term
[2017-02-22 03:31:31] BarefootFlash : Being around how long?
[2017-02-22 03:31:45] Sultan Pepper : Whatchu mean?
[2017-02-22 03:32:05] BarefootFlash : Like days, weeks? mid-term
[2017-02-22 03:33:00] Sultan Pepper : Oh, 2-3 weeks has been good to me. I'm looking longer now though. I've only been at this for a few months now
[2017-02-22 03:33:13] BarefootFlash : I think when I understand the market better and trader psychology, I might start moving to more mid- to long-term positions
[2017-02-22 03:33:42] Sultan Pepper : the chop is what was killing me
[2017-02-22 03:33:48] BarefootFlash : what's that?
[2017-02-22 03:33:49] Sultan Pepper : too erratic
[2017-02-22 03:34:07] BarefootFlash : what's the chop?
[2017-02-22 03:34:44] Sultan Pepper : all the up-down ebb and flow over the day
[2017-02-22 03:34:50] Ugly_Old_Goat : Please pay me for the privilege of being long Perp in 25 minutes. Thank you for your support
[2017-02-22 03:35:01] Sultan Pepper : Sometimes i could nail it, but not enough
[2017-02-22 03:35:27] BarefootFlash : Ah
[2017-02-22 03:35:35] BarefootFlash : I love the horizontal market
[2017-02-22 03:35:45] Sultan Pepper : everything "insignifigant"
[2017-02-22 03:35:49] Sultan Pepper : noise
[2017-02-22 03:36:19] BarefootFlash : Tiny profits on every up and down. The patterns are easy to follow
[2017-02-22 03:36:48] BarefootFlash : But when you go bigger scale, there's a lot more to it, and Im' not confident enough yet
[2017-02-22 03:36:57] Sultan Pepper : Until they jostle you out. Maybe you're better at it though. Keep it up if you are
[2017-02-22 03:37:09] gnx100 : china about to announce a sanction on btc. just a heads up
[2017-02-22 03:37:12] Sultan Pepper : and dont get greedy
[2017-02-22 03:37:16] MikeHunt : gnx100: source?
[2017-02-22 03:37:22] BarefootFlash : Yeah, the problem is getting stuck in a position, like now, haha
[2017-02-22 03:37:23] Sultan Pepper : MikeHunt: thx
[2017-02-22 03:37:32] Sultan Pepper : BarefootFlash: yep
[2017-02-22 03:37:59] BarefootFlash : Might be able to start using futures to offset though. Seems like a good strategy
[2017-02-22 03:38:09] Sultan Pepper : BarefootFlash: i've learned to keep a nice safety net. I like sleeping at night