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[2015-11-12 09:27:17] JACOBcze : so u lose 100% of your bet or 50%? since u should lose just 50% in that case
[2015-11-12 09:28:46] Yumi : 0.5% margin is minimum what you can have, any lower you get liquidated
[2015-11-12 09:29:10] Yumi : you start wtih 100x leverage and can go up to 200x
[2015-11-12 09:29:16] JACOBcze : oooh
[2015-11-12 09:29:23] JACOBcze : i thoguht 100x is top
[2015-11-12 09:29:54] JACOBcze : MOON
[2015-11-12 09:30:09] Yumi : 100x is 1% initial margin
[2015-11-12 09:30:53] Yumi : it can fall to 0.5% margin before liquidation which makes you effective 200x leveraged
[2015-11-12 09:31:01] JACOBcze : i see
[2015-11-12 09:31:14] JACOBcze : thats a bit spoooky then
[2015-11-12 09:31:16] kogroken : Is unrealized PNL calculated from Entry Price and Mark Price, or some other way? I have an entry price under the mark price, but still negative PNL
[2015-11-12 09:32:08] kogroken : Ah, I guess it uses the indicative settle price.
[2015-11-12 09:32:44] JACOBcze : im getting rich currently Kappa
[2015-11-12 09:32:55] kogroken : Although Mark Price tooltip says it's used for PNL
[2015-11-12 09:33:16] Yumi : JACOBcze: you dont need to use 100x leverage, you can use cross-margin to use your whole balance as margin or if you want to isolate margin you can add additional margin to the position to reduce your leverage
[2015-11-12 09:33:32] JACOBcze : oooh i see
[2015-11-12 09:33:36] JACOBcze : so if i just want lower margin
[2015-11-12 09:33:41] JACOBcze : i go lets say 50% of the bet i want to go
[2015-11-12 09:33:45] JACOBcze : and then add another 50% to it?
[2015-11-12 09:34:45] Yumi : if you buy 100 btc worth and put 1btc in margin you are 100x leverage, you can add 1 more btc to margin to be 50x leveraged
[2015-11-12 09:35:38] Yumi : you can increase margin to level you want it to be
[2015-11-12 09:35:39] JACOBcze : awesome thanks yumi
[2015-11-12 09:36:22] JACOBcze : well this was the easiest long ever
[2015-11-12 09:38:57] JACOBcze : close somewhere between 352-360
[2015-11-12 09:41:56] floopfloop : 400 time
[2015-11-12 09:42:02] JACOBcze : floop pls
[2015-11-12 09:42:07] JACOBcze : will u become my best friend
[2015-11-12 09:43:02] floopfloop : for 1 btc, sure
[2015-11-12 09:43:15] floopfloop : ill even give my email address
[2015-11-12 09:43:52] JACOBcze : lel
[2015-11-12 09:45:20] JACOBcze : well time to panicsell
[2015-11-12 09:46:11] floopfloop : its still going up
[2015-11-12 09:46:13] TschavaTschigger : good morning... wtf? moontime?
[2015-11-12 09:46:29] TschavaTschigger : I went to bed at 308
[2015-11-12 09:46:49] JACOBcze : yeah it was obvious when btce and stamp broke down below 300 and everyone stayed above it
[2015-11-12 09:46:58] JACOBcze : it's a classic let's duck you in the ass bitcoin move
[2015-11-12 09:47:04] JACOBcze : i think i'll get it copyrighted
[2015-11-12 09:56:07] mikeh : when I think 100x I assume 100x returns but if you adjust your margin afterwards it only adjusts risk level, not returns doesn't it?
[2015-11-12 09:56:40] JACOBcze : well that makes sense doesnt it
[2015-11-12 09:56:57] JACOBcze : if ure in 1 BTC 100x leverage and reduce it to 50x leverage with 2 BTC your profit stays the same but u can go 2 times lower before getting liquidated
[2015-11-12 09:57:01] JACOBcze : at least thats how I see it
[2015-11-12 10:04:55] JACOBcze : well im out boys see ya at the next breakout
[2015-11-12 10:06:15] gustavo7 : aw no profits
[2015-11-12 10:07:18] JACOBcze : i got something below 100% but with a small amount im still getting a hang of it
[2015-11-12 10:15:59] gustavo7 : extended my long from earlier but got stop hunted some cents above break even, anyway here's to lunch
[2015-11-12 10:23:40] messiaen8844 : cool time to short the 24h
[2015-11-12 10:36:16] messiaen8844 : was a really good time ;)
[2015-11-12 10:37:00] TschavaTschigger : dat smart @messiaen8844
[2015-11-12 10:43:05] floopfloop : srsly china, wtf
[2015-11-12 10:43:45] habibi : heavy buy support need to be filled before engage
[2015-11-12 10:44:35] floopfloop : btc needs to go to $1
[2015-11-12 10:44:47] floopfloop : then ill enter a long, and it can go to 1000
[2015-11-12 10:45:00] messiaen8844 : solid strategy floop
[2015-11-12 10:50:17] floopfloop : plz china
[2015-11-12 10:50:17] floopfloop : plz
[2015-11-12 10:50:18] floopfloop : i need this
[2015-11-12 10:51:36] laisee : floop> genius move. dining out tonight, I supppose.
[2015-11-12 10:51:42] floopfloop : no
[2015-11-12 10:51:47] floopfloop : making back what I loss being a dumbass
[2015-11-12 10:52:49] gustavo7 : ay lmao
[2015-11-12 10:53:03] gustavo7 : good my stop got hit
[2015-11-12 10:53:20] gustavo7 : floopfloop: put up your wall ;)
[2015-11-12 10:53:48] laisee : buy wall at $1
[2015-11-12 10:54:45] floopfloop : moar?
[2015-11-12 10:56:07] floopfloop : meh im out
[2015-11-12 10:56:10] floopfloop : not taking chances
[2015-11-12 10:56:19] floopfloop : Im still at a loss from profit
[2015-11-12 10:56:21] floopfloop : buit not in total
[2015-11-12 10:56:25] floopfloop : dam kids
[2015-11-12 11:02:10] JACOBcze : Get off floop's lawn!
[2015-11-12 11:03:52] floopfloop : where did that 50k sell order go?
[2015-11-12 11:03:56] floopfloop : errr...buy order
[2015-11-12 11:05:45] Yumi : it got filled
[2015-11-12 11:06:14] kendang : Yumi: are you japanese?
[2015-11-12 11:06:43] messiaen8844 : how long till 24h contract reset?
[2015-11-12 11:06:51] Yumi : 53mins
[2015-11-12 11:07:32] messiaen8844 : buy the dip
[2015-11-12 11:12:40] TschavaTschigger : anybody else having problems with woodchipper api? (cn domain)?
[2015-11-12 11:17:29] TschavaTschigger : their websocket doesn't like me
[2015-11-12 11:38:20] kendang : is there a way to set visual and audio alerts in the charts?
[2015-11-12 11:43:55] laisee : busy close fo 24H?
[2015-11-12 11:59:51] roymalmberg : ding ding ding
[2015-11-12 12:00:34] kendang : good god are there many shitty trading books on amazon
[2015-11-12 12:04:26] TschavaTschigger : rule #1 dont buy trading books
[2015-11-12 12:04:48] messiaen8844 : rule #2 don't pay for very expensive trading courses ;)
[2015-11-12 12:04:56] kendang : TschavaTschigger: there *are* good ones out there.
[2015-11-12 12:05:28] kendang : for example "come into my trading room" by alexander elde
[2015-11-12 12:05:34] kendang : elde
[2015-11-12 12:05:37] kendang : elder
[2015-11-12 12:07:11] jung1 : http://i1.wp.com/i.imgur.com/YvOsLt8.gif another normal day in bitcoin ecosystem
[2015-11-12 12:07:13] messiaen8844 : I wish there were faster controls on BitMex for quick buy and sell, price/quantity increment, all on the keyboard
[2015-11-12 12:07:50] kendang : messiaen8844: yes, i need that too.
[2015-11-12 12:08:48] messiaen8844 : guess one can hook something to the browser to do that
[2015-11-12 12:10:24] kendang : but really the bitmex guys should implement that
[2015-11-12 12:11:21] TschavaTschigger : this would just end up in newbies losing all their money by accidently triggering keys
[2015-11-12 12:11:36] messiaen8844 : tschava, restraint it to quantity/limit price
[2015-11-12 12:12:19] kendang : TschavaTschigger: or create settings where you can enable it
[2015-11-12 12:13:03] messiaen8844 : even buy/sell market buttons would help
[2015-11-12 12:13:57] BitMEX_Arthur : Hi guys, would any of you be interested in the ability to roll your XBT24H from day to day
[2015-11-12 12:14:08] BitMEX_Arthur : so that you would not have to settle then re-open the position each day?
[2015-11-12 12:14:22] kendang : BitMEX_Arthur: YES!
[2015-11-12 12:15:35] TschavaTschigger : if it doesn't get settled every 24h, how is it a 24h future then?
[2015-11-12 12:15:47] messiaen8844 : i'd rather settle
[2015-11-12 12:15:57] BitMEX_Arthur : Rolling or not rolling would be option
[2015-11-12 12:16:00] BitMEX_Arthur : optional
[2015-11-12 12:16:16] laisee : rollforward sounds good
[2015-11-12 12:16:50] BitMEX_Arthur : Imagine you were long XBT24H and you wanted to keep your position open for another 24 hours. There would be "market roll" button and also an order book where you could roll into the next day's contract
[2015-11-12 12:18:28] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Arthur: you sure this can work out? since 24h relies on 30m average, meaning strong increases/decreases in last minutes won't have a big effect on settlement price but a big effect on next futures price
[2015-11-12 12:18:57] aspa : What happens if only one side of the transaction wants to roll over?
[2015-11-12 12:19:07] BitMEX_Arthur : Imagine there are two concurrent futures contracts XBT24H and XBT48H, XBT48H becomes XBT24H each day at 12:00 GMT
[2015-11-12 12:19:20] BitMEX_Arthur : Now imagine there is a market where you can trade between 24H and 48H with one instrument
[2015-11-12 12:20:44] TschavaTschigger : that makes sense
[2015-11-12 12:22:15] messiaen8844 : any updates on augur? have you participated the crowdsale?
[2015-11-12 12:22:19] kendang : BitMEX_Arthur: what about you guys do an AMA on Reddit to drum up some more businnes and also advertise on reddit in /r/bitcoin (reddit ads)
[2015-11-12 12:23:04] BitMEX_Arthur : We have tried advertising on r/bitcoin we just haven't seen good ROI on that means of advertising
[2015-11-12 12:23:15] TschavaTschigger : use /r/btc, not /r/bitcoin... latter is getting censored hard and all serious bitcoin traders moved to /r/btc
[2015-11-12 12:23:33] messiaen8844 : arthur, perhaps you should try to educate the bitcoin crowd about hedging, so important in bitcoin..
[2015-11-12 12:24:06] TschavaTschigger : https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/3sam4h/im_also_done_with_rbitcoin_roger_ver/
[2015-11-12 12:24:08] messiaen8844 : still too few people on /r/btc,
[2015-11-12 12:24:19] kendang : BitMEX_Arthur: tried a-ads,com?
[2015-11-12 12:24:52] BitMEX_Arthur : messiaen8844: I try to do that in many of the newsletters, especially for miners and payment processors
[2015-11-12 12:25:46] billyboy402 : BitMEX_Arthur: i have just been talking about this on TS , here the link i made <23:15:14> "@william_bowers_": http://imgur.com/a/Y3kal <23:19:20> "@william_bowers_": you will need 0.2882 ... and doesnt matter which way the price move . you will make 0.03 -0.14.... idealy you make more if it goes down , or stay close
[2015-11-12 12:29:57] TschavaTschigger : billyboy402: there are two different entry prices, you realize that?
[2015-11-12 12:31:25] billyboy402 : TschavaTschigger: the calurlato are the same , the price was just moving when i press screen shiot , but the idea still work ,,, when the new daily open , there was $15 different which i glady took then make the screen shot to share
[2015-11-12 12:33:02] billyboy402 : your only risk = exchange risk ....+ huge spike that could change the daily 30 min index avg , and the 2 hours weekely avg .... normaly they close with in $1 of each other
[2015-11-12 12:34:39] billyboy402 : last week was a bit crazy and was $3
[2015-11-12 12:35:16] Swedishnut : well we are above 325$ which is when I went to bed.
[2015-11-12 12:37:12] Fonzie : BitMEX_Arthur: Hi, I made a deposit. but it doesn´t appear under pending deposits neither has it been credited. It has alredy 2 confrimations in the Blockchain?
[2015-11-12 12:40:36] BitMEX_Wally : Fonzie: Please email support@bitmex.com
[2015-11-12 12:41:49] Swedishnut : This is kinda scary. We may have the right to a trial but maybe we are not allowed to fund our defense... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2015/11/11/the-supreme-court-could-soon-deliver-a-crushing-blow-to-the-sixth-amendment/
[2015-11-12 12:42:39] Yumi : billyboy402: unrealised profits from one position don't offset loses from another, if price moves you might require to put much more margin
[2015-11-12 12:45:31] cataquil : can anyone tell me what is the Woochipper API
[2015-11-12 12:54:12] kendang : floopfloop: thanks for recommending kazn radio
[2015-11-12 12:59:23] habibi : what was the highest premium here u ever meet?
[2015-11-12 12:59:55] JACOBcze : yo wally can i change a chat nickn
[2015-11-12 13:01:05] TschavaTschigger : cataquil: its the API (google it) on okcoin
[2015-11-12 13:01:43] TschavaTschigger : woodchipper = http://www.okcoin.cn
[2015-11-12 13:01:49] sleger : cataquil does not google, he just asks
[2015-11-12 13:01:52] TschavaTschigger : LOL damnit this word filter
[2015-11-12 13:16:22] Swedishnut : CNBC says banks are going to start using and accepting btc "as early as next year".... so is that January 2016? or December 2016?
[2015-11-12 13:17:29] kendang : nice dro
[2015-11-12 13:18:10] kendang : drop
[2015-11-12 13:21:02] Swedishnut : merica is waking up selling overnight profits if any and prepping for a terrible FED filled Market Friday
[2015-11-12 13:27:24] irbbqu : Datt premium.
[2015-11-12 13:29:37] TschavaTschigger : irbbqu: people just don't learn
[2015-11-12 13:30:44] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: problems :(?
[2015-11-12 13:32:19] nickhnt : exchange suspended?
[2015-11-12 13:32:55] irbbqu : Happened yesterday too, was fixed within minutes of being aware.
[2015-11-12 13:33:28] Swedishnut : the machines are self aware now!?
[2015-11-12 13:33:54] irbbqu : Yes.
[2015-11-12 13:34:15] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: ?
[2015-11-12 13:34:28] Swedishnut : okay I'm going to finally get some straight answers from my toaster then
[2015-11-12 13:34:31] habibi : BitMEX_Arthur: great i dont have position this time
[2015-11-12 13:34:59] habibi : dumping
[2015-11-12 13:40:47] BitMEX_Wally : Sorry guys we had some bad data from api.chain.com
[2015-11-12 13:40:59] Swedishnut : Brave little guy told me while I was gone the vacuum has been abusing the lava lamp. But he won't get in the middle due to it being a complicated relationship already. Guessing the lamp and toaster had a fling back in the day.
[2015-11-12 13:42:08] j8 : BitMEX_Wally: hey wally, site performance on advanced view is quite bad for me, not sure if others are having this issue. javascript errors also
[2015-11-12 13:42:22] kendang : finally hooked up my mouse to my laptop. what a difference in trading speed!
[2015-11-12 13:43:05] redlose : eat my 10k guys
[2015-11-12 13:49:23] messiaen8844 : boucing back
[2015-11-12 13:50:09] messiaen8844 : good old buy the fat dip keeps working lol
[2015-11-12 13:52:10] habibi : nice recover
[2015-11-12 13:58:48] messiaen8844 : nice sinusoidal movements
[2015-11-12 13:59:08] messiaen8844 : love when btc goes so predictably directional
[2015-11-12 13:59:46] j8 : 5 minute looks like 4
[2015-11-12 13:59:51] j8 : 4
[2015-11-12 13:59:59] j8 : `4 hour`
[2015-11-12 14:01:23] messiaen8844 : lol, indeed
[2015-11-12 14:03:44] messiaen8844 : another feature needed: quick increment/decrement for buy/sell order
[2015-11-12 14:04:00] messiaen8844 : takes a while to cancel order than send another one
[2015-11-12 14:04:46] messiaen8844 : I mean, on active orders
[2015-11-12 14:06:48] jung1 : damn someone have a lot of fun with bitcoin price
[2015-11-12 14:08:05] messiaen8844 : that's why I am mostly scalping, not much profit but consistent gains
[2015-11-12 14:09:11] roymalmberg : import java.util.Scanner; import java.util.ArrayList; import java.io.IOException; public class add_words{ public static void main(String[]args){ Integer number_of_inputs; String word; Scanner in; ArrayList<String> words; boolean check; in=new Scanner(System.in); number_of_inputs=0; do{ System.out.println("How many words? (between 2-10000)"); try{ number_of_inputs=in.nextInt(); } catch(Exception e){ System.out.println("Skriv ett tal"); e.printStackTrace(); System.exit(0); } } while (number_of_inputs<2 || number_of_inputs>10000); words=new ArrayList<String>(number_of_inputs); for (Integer n=0;n<number_of_inputs;n++){ do{ check=true; System.out.println("Write one word:"); word=in.next();
[2015-11-12 14:09:25] roymalmberg : ups
[2015-11-12 14:09:33] jung1 : use pastebin
[2015-11-12 14:09:50] roymalmberg : how?
[2015-11-12 14:10:03] jung1 : btw I still think that we go to 280-300
[2015-11-12 14:10:14] jung1 : http://pastebin.com/
[2015-11-12 14:10:38] jung1 : easier to share your code
[2015-11-12 14:10:57] roymalmberg : nice thank you
[2015-11-12 14:11:17] roymalmberg : anyone that know java and can critic me on this?
[2015-11-12 14:11:19] roymalmberg : http://pastebin.com/F7GEw2Yq
[2015-11-12 14:11:47] roymalmberg : suppose to add two words, without whitespace and only a-z
[2015-11-12 14:12:16] roymalmberg : complex stuff ;)
[2015-11-12 14:13:06] j8 : does it work
[2015-11-12 14:13:55] roymalmberg : yep, but get failed when i submit for check, suppose I have done somehting inappropriate
[2015-11-12 14:14:06] habibi : i wonder how much funds has this 1 contract bot
[2015-11-12 14:21:17] jung1 : maybe this bot is own by this MMM guy
[2015-11-12 14:24:31] TschavaTschigger : probably some guy testing
[2015-11-12 14:41:01] amirmass : bitmex admin?
[2015-11-12 14:41:23] kendang : armirmass is back in town
[2015-11-12 14:41:30] kendang : don't get scammed
[2015-11-12 14:41:56] amirmass : kendang: thnk u
[2015-11-12 14:47:15] habibi : gold
[2015-11-12 14:47:15] habibi : silver
[2015-11-12 14:47:18] habibi : look at chart guys
[2015-11-12 14:48:17] BitMEX_Wally : amirmass: I just emailed you
[2015-11-12 14:49:46] TschavaTschigger : kendang: lol
[2015-11-12 14:53:20] habibi : again suspended :(
[2015-11-12 14:53:23] habibi : at fomo time
[2015-11-12 14:53:35] TschavaTschigger : whats up with the orderbook at 24h?
[2015-11-12 14:53:44] habibi : suspended
[2015-11-12 14:54:36] nostdal.org : yeah, what's going on with the suspended stuff?
[2015-11-12 14:55:14] BitMEX_Sam : We've been having some issues with the bitcoin API providers we use to check deposits
[2015-11-12 14:55:16] Swedishnut : ya know just to keep things spicy when price movements happen services like to get choppy
[2015-11-12 14:55:17] BitMEX_Sam : We're working to get off them ASAP
[2015-11-12 14:55:30] BitMEX_Sam : We'll be unsuspended in just a moment, Wally is taking care of it
[2015-11-12 14:55:46] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: thanks for information
[2015-11-12 14:56:01] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: why wouldnt u use ur own bitcoin core
[2015-11-12 14:56:09] habibi : node
[2015-11-12 14:56:12] BitMEX_Sam : habibi: We do, but there are certain queries we can't execute directly on bitcoind
[2015-11-12 14:56:19] habibi : ah ok
[2015-11-12 14:58:07] nostdal.org : couldn't you...like.. just halt withdrawals ....
[2015-11-12 14:58:16] nostdal.org : and let the exchange keep going
[2015-11-12 14:58:23] nostdal.org : i dunno
[2015-11-12 14:58:39] BitMEX_Sam : No, because what is happening is a users' deposit has disappeared from the datasource
[2015-11-12 14:58:56] BitMEX_Sam : Obviously this shouldn't be able to happen, but the APIs we're hooked up to are clearly unreliable
[2015-11-12 14:59:10] BitMEX_Sam : We are working to create a better solution
[2015-11-12 14:59:34] j8 : definitely gonna be some liquidations on reopen
[2015-11-12 15:00:19] jung1 : anyone already made a research about automated trading with artificial intelligence? google, facebook show thei systems and it gonna be really popular. I mean try to learn AI to analysis data and trade
[2015-11-12 15:00:34] habibi : there is no ai so far
[2015-11-12 15:00:39] habibi : AI real one ;p
[2015-11-12 15:01:55] jung1 : yeah but its really close to that
[2015-11-12 15:02:12] TschavaTschigger : jung1: i guess you mean "neural networks"... especially recurrent neural networks are suited well for financial time series: http://deeplearning4j.org/recurrentnetwork.html
[2015-11-12 15:02:42] TschavaTschigger : read some stuff about neural networks before... this is what most people nowadays mean with "AI"
[2015-11-12 15:02:53] jung1 : in couple of years there will be no people on market. Only machines trading electronic cash
[2015-11-12 15:03:25] TschavaTschigger : jung1: that has been happening for 15 years already lol
[2015-11-12 15:03:27] BitMEX_Sam : We're back
[2015-11-12 15:03:29] Queeq : huh, back online
[2015-11-12 15:03:31] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks for your patience everyone
[2015-11-12 15:03:48] BitMEX_Sam : We're going to work overtime today to eliminate the bad datasource
[2015-11-12 15:03:48] Swedishnut : cheers :) you guys are super responsive :)
[2015-11-12 15:04:15] Crypto Wealth : BitMEX_Sam: +1 :-)
[2015-11-12 15:04:31] TschavaTschigger : the real difficult thing right here is finding front end developers like @BitMEX_Sam
[2015-11-12 15:04:50] jung1 : and users like us
[2015-11-12 15:04:53] jung1 : dont forget that
[2015-11-12 15:04:55] TschavaTschigger : generally havent seen such a responsive and dedicated team for a long time
[2015-11-12 15:05:02] TschavaTschigger : ur future is bright guys
[2015-11-12 15:05:09] BitMEX_Sam : Appreciate it TschavaTschigger
[2015-11-12 15:07:20] jung1 : BitMEX_Sam: what is your to do list now? grouping of orderbook as well?
[2015-11-12 15:07:27] BitMEX_Sam : jung1: Yep, that's on there
[2015-11-12 15:07:37] jung1 : perfect
[2015-11-12 15:08:28] BitMEX_Sam : It's less bad now than it was but I still see a lot of cheeky orders
[2015-11-12 15:10:06] jung1 : yeah now its quite ok but when some bot start spamming its annoying
[2015-11-12 15:12:01] jung1 : btw I already tried gatecoin dynamic stop orders
[2015-11-12 15:12:21] jung1 : nice feature
[2015-11-12 15:58:50] amirmass : BitMEX_Sam: hey, how much time my deposite is gonna take ?
[2015-11-12 15:59:31] Yumi : I got this respone from support
[2015-11-12 15:59:33] Yumi : "Our main blockchain querying datasource has been down for some time and does not have an ETA for coming back up. We are working as hard as we can to switch datasources and get deposits back online ASAP. Very sorry for the inconvenience."
[2015-11-12 16:06:32] TschavaTschigger : who needs deposits.. its just playmoney anyway
[2015-11-12 16:16:23] amirmass : ?
[2015-11-12 16:35:04] gustavo7 : Yumi what you talking about don't see it in the troll box
[2015-11-12 16:36:09] amirmass : BitMEX_Sam: how much time this gonna take? thnx
[2015-11-12 16:37:05] BitMEX_Sam : gustavo7: He emailed us
[2015-11-12 16:37:10] BitMEX_Sam : That's a direct quote
[2015-11-12 16:37:26] BitMEX_Sam : amirmass: Working as quickly as we can to deliver a correct and reliable solution
[2015-11-12 16:39:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: May be a longer term solution (takes time to set up) but it would be worth looking into something like running Bitpay's Insight API or Coinbase's Toshi locally on top of your Bitcoin Core node
[2015-11-12 16:39:18] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, we are developing something similar in parallel
[2015-11-12 16:39:26] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam:
[2015-11-12 16:39:26] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks for the pointers
[2015-11-12 16:39:29] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Oh ok, cool
[2015-11-12 16:39:33] cekseh : Who needs deposits when we are making this much money. As long as withdraws work we are great =)
[2015-11-12 16:39:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I'm sure you've got it under control. Was just throwing something out there :)
[2015-11-12 16:39:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cekseh: Yeah I don't understand either
[2015-11-12 16:40:22] cekseh : I deposited .1btc a few months ago, now I just withdraw half every time I get to 10btc
[2015-11-12 16:40:47] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cekseh: Haha are you serious?
[2015-11-12 16:40:59] cekseh : No.... lol
[2015-11-12 16:41:11] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cekseh: Oh ok. I was going to say that's insane and congrats
[2015-11-12 16:41:19] cekseh : Although I do withdraw half every time I get to 4btc
[2015-11-12 16:41:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cekseh: That's a good plan. I'm working on getting to that point.
[2015-11-12 16:41:42] amirmass : cekseh: whats ur secret
[2015-11-12 16:42:08] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Lost 2 BTC right off the bat to liquidation but I've learned from my mistakes and I'm up .35 now
[2015-11-12 16:42:12] habibi : cekseh: would u like to donate amirmass in ur weathness ! :)?
[2015-11-12 16:42:13] cekseh : I didn't claim the never have losing trades
[2015-11-12 16:42:19] cekseh : lol
[2015-11-12 16:42:32] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cekseh: Exactly. I make losing trades all the time. I just get out of them before they crush me
[2015-11-12 16:43:12] cekseh : I've actually rekt myself quit a bit on here, but the damage is quite minimal if you are sane
[2015-11-12 16:43:19] amirmass : cekseh: whats ur buy/ sell cost rate usually
[2015-11-12 16:43:32] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cekseh: Yep. Trying to be sane. Never above 10x leverage if I can help it. Usually 2-5x
[2015-11-12 16:44:16] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : amirmass: What does that mean?
[2015-11-12 16:44:25] cekseh : None-ya
[2015-11-12 16:44:48] cekseh : If you isolate margin it is hard to get into really bad positions where you nuke yourself
[2015-11-12 16:45:02] cekseh : You have to consciously decide to do very stupid things.
[2015-11-12 16:45:39] amirmass : how much u using for a position out of funds
[2015-11-12 16:46:16] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cekseh: Oh you use isolate? I don't like that it opens positions with 100x leverage by default but once that's a setting (they're working on it) I'll probably use it
[2015-11-12 16:46:19] messiaen8844 : I isolate the maring as a stop loss
[2015-11-12 16:46:22] cekseh : very very little, but with 100x you don't need a lot
[2015-11-12 16:46:23] roymalmberg : BitMEX_Sam: When you isolate margin, is the trade liquidatet at market or how does that work?
[2015-11-12 16:46:44] BitMEX_Sam : roymalmberg: Not sure what you mean, it simply decreases the amount of margin assigned to the position
[2015-11-12 16:47:00] cekseh : with isolated margin you can add margin to your active order
[2015-11-12 16:47:09] cekseh : to reduce it to what you are comfortable with
[2015-11-12 16:47:16] BitMEX_Sam : It's safe to turn off and on at will, it doesn't cost margin to do so - but if you're isolated at 100x your liquidation price is very close
[2015-11-12 16:47:45] roymalmberg : BitMEX_Sam: yes, but if you get a margin call, you will still be closed at market?
[2015-11-12 16:48:05] BitMEX_Sam : We place limit orders at intervals to liquidate users at the best possible price
[2015-11-12 16:48:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cekseh: Yes, and I would do that. Having such a close liquidation price at first though scares me. I like to play in the volatility and that could wreck me quickly
[2015-11-12 16:48:25] messiaen8844 : i isually start 100x then right away set it to 50x, then manage position from there
[2015-11-12 16:48:44] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: what about the rest from liquidation when there still some money after, it goes to player or exchange?
[2015-11-12 16:48:52] cekseh : Have a close liquidation point also keeps you from losing large amounts, but again since you can add margin to your orders you can make it whatever you like
[2015-11-12 16:48:57] cekseh : unless you are fomo-market buying
[2015-11-12 16:49:06] cekseh : In which case you are just food for real traders
[2015-11-12 16:49:20] BitMEX_Sam : habibi: See https://www.bitmex.com/app/dynamicProfitEqualisation#liquidations
[2015-11-12 16:49:25] BitMEX_Sam : It goes to offset other losses
[2015-11-12 16:51:34] habibi : If there are not bankrupt positions to offset, the leftover Bitcoin will be used to offset losses in the next contract. - That means that there is a "insurance bank funds" ?
[2015-11-12 16:52:18] BitMEX_Sam : habibi: Yes, just at this time we have not put together the proper parts of the site to report on liquidations and the insurance fund
[2015-11-12 16:52:48] BitMEX_Sam : We just put up https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/Order/Order_getCloseOutOrders a few days ago so you can see live liquidations
[2015-11-12 16:53:00] habibi : thats quite good, i thought the + money in that funds simply goes to echange as a profit after settlement
[2015-11-12 16:53:15] BitMEX_Sam : Margaritas for the boys
[2015-11-12 16:53:43] BitMEX_Sam : Just kidding, of course, in case that wasn't obvious :)
[2015-11-12 16:54:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: Haha :)
[2015-11-12 16:54:27] habibi : buying pizza with bitcoins is not a good idea! So ur business plan stands for profit from fee only ?
[2015-11-12 16:54:43] BitMEX_Sam : Yes
[2015-11-12 16:55:07] BitMEX_Sam : Deposits are back up
[2015-11-12 16:55:10] BitMEX_Sam : Many of you should have emails
[2015-11-12 16:55:22] habibi : Fair enought, thank you for answers
[2015-11-12 17:00:03] Yumi : BitMEX_Sam: Today I noticed Profit Calculator doesnt work on mobile, could you take a look at it when you can
[2015-11-12 17:00:14] BitMEX_Sam : Yumi: Sure, Android or iOS?
[2015-11-12 17:00:19] Yumi : android
[2015-11-12 17:00:23] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks
[2015-11-12 17:00:34] AudibleScience : why is someone filling the orderbook with spam orders of 1?
[2015-11-12 17:00:48] BitMEX_Sam : Warped sense of fun?
[2015-11-12 17:00:58] Yumi : stupid answer is because they can
[2015-11-12 17:04:17] djmackphunk : are deposits working?
[2015-11-12 17:04:41] BitMEX_Sam : djmackphunk: Yes
[2015-11-12 17:05:12] messiaen8844 : cool, I'm nailing all the scalps today... but I know the moment I raise # of contracts I will fuck up lol
[2015-11-12 17:06:52] kendang : messiaen8844: how many contracts are you trading at a tim
[2015-11-12 17:07:17] kendang : time?
[2015-11-12 17:07:44] messiaen8844 : depends, from 500 to 1500
[2015-11-12 17:12:19] cekseh : Are you making a reasonable amount/day like that, considering the time you are putting in
[2015-11-12 17:13:13] messiaen8844 : i'm basically exploring some setups and indicators, at the same time I play longer positions on 7D and Z15
[2015-11-12 17:14:46] messiaen8844 : but got about 0.4BTC in 24hrs, I'm working on something else and when I see the sweet stops I'll try something
[2015-11-12 17:16:54] messiaen8844 : I mean, I wait for the sweet stops, market has been very directional, albeit without much volatility
[2015-11-12 17:17:24] messiaen8844 : look at the 5 min chart
[2015-11-12 17:18:05] FreeForB : everyone seems very bullish at the moment. I think we are going up but are going to go down 4 -5 dollars before that.
[2015-11-12 17:19:10] messiaen8844 : well, I expect we test that upper range ($400 to $500) again this year
[2015-11-12 17:19:29] messiaen8844 : memories are vivid of the bubble
[2015-11-12 17:19:43] cekseh : Which buble
[2015-11-12 17:19:46] FreeForB : I am somewhat new here. Is the premium always about 4 to 5 dollars?
[2015-11-12 17:20:01] cekseh : When people are bulltarded, yes
[2015-11-12 17:20:28] messiaen8844 : cekeh people will "feel" that 325 is cheap because they just seen 500 last week. if it holds, they might want to buy
[2015-11-12 17:20:57] messiaen8844 : price memory is something strong (and irrational lol)
[2015-11-12 17:21:28] cekseh : I've traded sub200 a couple times this year, 300s is kinda pricey.
[2015-11-12 17:21:32] cekseh : haha
[2015-11-12 17:21:33] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : FreeForB: It's pretty variable really
[2015-11-12 17:21:35] cekseh : (perspective)
[2015-11-12 17:22:24] cekseh : That said, I feel much happier making money longing than shorting, because I am a bitcoin tech fanboy
[2015-11-12 17:22:59] FreeForB : I would think with daily futures you would be closer to spot.
[2015-11-12 17:23:39] cekseh : Keep in mind that bitmex is a bit less rational than other exchanges (in my opinion)
[2015-11-12 17:24:10] Yumi : my theory is when MM is heavy in short position he quotes with premium
[2015-11-12 17:24:13] cekseh : and that is because the volumes are relatively tiny, very very small fish and beginners are playing here
[2015-11-12 17:24:25] messiaen8844 : yes cekseh
[2015-11-12 17:24:27] cekseh : relative to the bigger exchanges
[2015-11-12 17:24:50] cekseh : and this trollbox is rather attractive to traders that have no idea what is going on, what certain buttons do, etc
[2015-11-12 17:26:57] cekseh : Who knows what 24h price has closed at, relative to settlement price?
[2015-11-12 17:26:58] FreeForB : No I agree. Liquidity gets thin at times from what I have seen the last 3 days. I understand the premium as the market reverses but when i see it sit at $4 as we go sideways I scratch my head.
[2015-11-12 17:27:02] cekseh : I bet it isn't teh same
[2015-11-12 17:27:15] cekseh : Liquidity on bitmex is always very thin
[2015-11-12 17:27:27] cekseh : What you are talking about is when people that are trading dollars cant even trade
[2015-11-12 17:27:44] Yumi : its not bad at all
[2015-11-12 17:28:13] kendang : has liquidity improved in the last 3 months?
[2015-11-12 17:28:21] cekseh : It certainly has kendang
[2015-11-12 17:28:28] cekseh : It is still relatively nothing
[2015-11-12 17:30:16] FreeForB : cekseh: Certain days we all feel like we don't know how to trade. Lol
[2015-11-12 17:31:26] Swedishnut : still green all around here :)
[2015-11-12 17:31:32] cekseh : I didn't imply that, I was talking about being unable to trade
[2015-11-12 17:31:44] cekseh : Not-not knowing how to trade
[2015-11-12 17:32:44] cekseh : Like a 6 dollar spread I noticed night, is not very tradeable
[2015-11-12 17:34:01] cekseh : Anyhow, what I was originally getting at is that it is very attractive to newbies and very small fish
[2015-11-12 17:34:42] FreeForB : cekseh: I know. Just commenting on how everyone makes stupid trades.
[2015-11-12 17:34:52] cekseh : Agreed =)
[2015-11-12 17:36:30] TschavaTschigger : i really want a leaderboard
[2015-11-12 17:36:43] Swedishnut : it would be fun to see who is the most profitable
[2015-11-12 17:36:53] Swedishnut : or had the best single trade
[2015-11-12 17:36:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : TschavaTschigger: That would be cool, but also not very professional haha
[2015-11-12 17:37:12] Swedishnut : yeah it would turn this place into a circus more than likely
[2015-11-12 17:37:17] messiaen8844 : 24hs spreads tend to close by the end of contract, it's the effect of time
[2015-11-12 17:37:26] FreeForB : I look at where we are now. Trending down. Certainly could shoot up but charts would tell you we are likely to drift down to approx $320 and then back up. Appears that we still have lots of longs.
[2015-11-12 17:37:29] cekseh : Just join the whaleclub paper-trading game if you like that
[2015-11-12 17:37:36] TschavaTschigger : just make an option to being hidden from leaderboard and its fine
[2015-11-12 17:37:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Swedishnut: Yep. I like the serious exchange atmosphere in here and that would sort of ruin it
[2015-11-12 17:37:46] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : TschavaTschigger: Oh that would work too
[2015-11-12 17:37:59] TschavaTschigger : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: "I like the serious exchange atmosphere in here" HAHAHAHAHAHA
[2015-11-12 17:38:01] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Still probably not something the admins would like to se
[2015-11-12 17:38:04] Swedishnut : heck you could be a mega troll that way too and if you were top of the charts could push with your influence newbs to fat finger trade and make you tons of profit
[2015-11-12 17:38:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : TschavaTschigger: Hahaha I realize that sounds ridiculous
[2015-11-12 17:39:09] TschavaTschigger : bunch of fishnewbs in the trollbox trading their 0.2 btc... yeah very serious, pretty much exactly like at the big investment banks
[2015-11-12 17:39:40] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : TschavaTschigger: I just mean
[2015-11-12 17:39:42] kendang : the beauty of bitmex is that you can trade really small to learn the ropes. with minimal losses.
[2015-11-12 17:39:44] Swedishnut : hehe yup lead the guppies around the pool and snack on the stragglers as the pike
[2015-11-12 17:39:46] cekseh : Hey hey hey be nice fellas
[2015-11-12 17:39:47] cekseh : =)
[2015-11-12 17:39:53] cekseh : Newbs are people too
[2015-11-12 17:39:56] cekseh : Almost
[2015-11-12 17:40:17] Swedishnut : I do my best to educate anyone willing to read my nonsense
[2015-11-12 17:40:18] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *I just mean how BitMEX has everything set up like a real futures exchange and doesn't make it gimmicky with leaderboards and such like OKCoin
[2015-11-12 17:40:24] TschavaTschigger : cekseh: nope they are not. newbs are fish and fish are animals
[2015-11-12 17:40:36] TschavaTschigger : :D
[2015-11-12 17:40:49] cekseh : Not necessarily
[2015-11-12 17:41:09] cekseh : Whales can be nubs too, they just don't last particularly long
[2015-11-12 17:41:12] cekseh : =D
[2015-11-12 17:41:34] FreeForB : Unless you are a market maker on a large exchange - You are a guppy.
[2015-11-12 17:42:06] Yumi : actually someone from BitMEX mention idea of leaderboard himself before
[2015-11-12 17:42:10] cekseh : Kind of a nonsensical claim
[2015-11-12 17:42:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Yumi: Oh :p nevermind
[2015-11-12 17:42:43] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : It would be nice if it were optional though
[2015-11-12 17:42:57] Swedishnut : no options for you my address man :)
[2015-11-12 17:42:59] j8 : you don't get rich by acting rich
[2015-11-12 17:43:25] Swedishnut : you have to be a tool to get rich then?
[2015-11-12 17:43:36] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah we were thinking about one, anonymous by default
[2015-11-12 17:43:40] Swedishnut : or troll ?
[2015-11-12 17:44:13] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: Didn't mean to hate on the idea so much haha, it just would need to be done right
[2015-11-12 17:44:28] BitMEX_Sam : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Indeed
[2015-11-12 17:45:07] FreeForB : Swedishnut: To be first generation rich YES. After that just need to be born into a rich family.
[2015-11-12 17:46:13] cekseh : Requirement to get rich: luck, or a touch of anti-social personality "disorder"
[2015-11-12 17:46:28] cekseh : Rare to get there without either of those
[2015-11-12 17:46:46] messiaen8844 : definitions of RICH vary
[2015-11-12 17:47:02] Swedishnut : yeah I'm in America I know I'm lucky
[2015-11-12 17:47:03] cekseh : It is relative, yes
[2015-11-12 17:47:23] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Swedishnut: Shhh, no Americans allowed here :)
[2015-11-12 17:48:26] jung1 : you have to have strategy and discipline
[2015-11-12 17:48:36] Swedishnut : as I have heard. America is so backword with the whole Bitcoin thing... We need to go all Isle of Man style
[2015-11-12 17:48:36] cekseh : Admitting to being american just makes folks think you are stupid. (This coming from an American, who generally assumes Americans are less rational than "normal" humans.")
[2015-11-12 17:48:55] cekseh : =)
[2015-11-12 17:48:56] messiaen8844 : just curious, anyone from germany here?
[2015-11-12 17:49:06] kendang : yes, German here
[2015-11-12 17:49:32] jung1 : now london and berlin is best bitcoin hubs imo
[2015-11-12 17:49:46] kendang : jung1: why?
[2015-11-12 17:50:00] messiaen8844 : how is bitcoin community there? going to spend a month there in January, gonna try some of the remittance services
[2015-11-12 17:50:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Swedishnut: Agreed. The US has really got their Bitcoin regulation all out of sorts
[2015-11-12 17:50:08] Swedishnut : I guess what I'm saying when I say I'm "rich" because I was taught as I grew up that I was blessed to have what I have and others don't often have these opportunities. Lights, Heat, cold and hot food without shortage of water.
[2015-11-12 17:50:09] messiaen8844 : bitwa.la is in my radar
[2015-11-12 17:50:28] jung1 : quite clear law about cryptocurrencies, a lot of investors and startups
[2015-11-12 17:50:37] kendang : messiaen8844: never used it.
[2015-11-12 17:50:43] kendang : but planning on
[2015-11-12 17:50:49] kendang : it
[2015-11-12 17:50:58] messiaen8844 : Do german banks have some restrictions against funding coming from bitcoin services?
[2015-11-12 17:51:12] kendang : messiaen8844: not that i know of
[2015-11-12 17:51:27] TschavaTschigger : messiaen8844: where are you going exactly?
[2015-11-12 17:51:31] kendang : larger sums might trigger some suspicion though
[2015-11-12 17:51:56] kendang : messiaen8844: why don't you just get a bitcoin debit card denominated in euro?
[2015-11-12 17:52:00] messiaen8844 : munster mostly, potentially moving there next year for studies
[2015-11-12 17:52:18] TschavaTschigger : messiaen8844: cool. what are you going to study?
[2015-11-12 17:52:28] jung1 : why you still need banks? order card like spectrocoin and you can pay for everything when you load it bitcoins
[2015-11-12 17:53:32] messiaen8844 : i'm a classical pianist, will take a sabbatical year to study in germany
[2015-11-12 17:54:21] kendang : messiaen8844: where are you from ?
[2015-11-12 17:54:28] messiaen8844 : brazil
[2015-11-12 17:55:07] jung1 : take some warm clothes
[2015-11-12 17:55:16] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : jung1: Haha solid advice
[2015-11-12 17:55:42] messiaen8844 : lol, needless to say
[2015-11-12 17:57:52] kendang : messiaen8844: bring me a wife. ill pay you in btc
[2015-11-12 17:58:00] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : kendang: hahaha
[2015-11-12 17:58:23] messiaen8844 : come to brazil, you'll find one quickly ;)
[2015-11-12 17:58:47] messiaen8844 : plus it will be extra cheap because of massive currency devaluation
[2015-11-12 17:58:49] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : kendang: cheapair.com
[2015-11-12 17:58:53] kendang : messiaen8844: i will. just need to trade a bit more on bitmex to afford it ;)
[2015-11-12 17:58:54] jung1 : ukraine/belarus are closer
[2015-11-12 17:59:22] jung1 : 10/10 girls and with 1btc you cal live there one month like a king hehe
[2015-11-12 17:59:26] kendang : yeah, but brazil has hot ladies and BJJ
[2015-11-12 17:59:40] messiaen8844 : you can afford a lot of stuff with 1 BTC in brazil lol
[2015-11-12 17:59:58] jung1 : how much cost big mac in brazil?
[2015-11-12 18:00:08] jung1 : in btc
[2015-11-12 18:00:08] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : jung1: Also a good idea
[2015-11-12 18:00:19] messiaen8844 : no clue, that's actually quite expensive here
[2015-11-12 18:00:22] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Both? Brazil then Ukraine?
[2015-11-12 18:00:38] messiaen8844 : more so than a good meal
[2015-11-12 18:01:47] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Why anyone would eat a Big Mac in Brazil anyway is beyond me. So much awesome local food
[2015-11-12 18:02:17] kendang : 2.26 BTC roundtrip from frankfurt to rio. just checked.
[2015-11-12 18:02:30] jung1 : yeah but I mean its quite universal and you can compare countries
[2015-11-12 18:02:45] kendang : jung1: check out the big mac inde
[2015-11-12 18:02:45] jung1 : read about big mac index on wiki
[2015-11-12 18:02:50] messiaen8844 : that's expensive, got that for $400 kendang
[2015-11-12 18:03:20] jung1 : azair.eu cheapest flights
[2015-11-12 18:06:31] jung1 : I fall in love in brazilian bikini
[2015-11-12 18:06:48] jung1 : that trend should go across europe
[2015-11-12 18:07:32] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : jung1: You may mean "with brazilian bikinis" instead of "in" because that makes it sound like you're wearing one ;)
[2015-11-12 18:07:46] jung1 : who knows
[2015-11-12 18:07:48] kendang : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: had the same image in my mind
[2015-11-12 18:07:49] jung1 : hehe
[2015-11-12 18:07:51] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Hahaha
[2015-11-12 18:08:03] kendang : his schlong hanging out to the side
[2015-11-12 18:08:49] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : kendang: I didn't have the image in my mind before, so thanks
[2015-11-12 18:09:12] kendang : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: you're welcome my friend, you're welcome.
[2015-11-12 18:10:34] messiaen8844 : cool, ethereum ecosystem seems to be growing. Still have some ether I mined in the first day of Frontier before difficulty skyrocketed hehe
[2015-11-12 18:11:10] jung1 : damn you bitcoin. Im gonna throw a coin to decide play long or short
[2015-11-12 18:11:21] jung1 : yeah eth will be funny in '16
[2015-11-12 18:11:33] jung1 : augur, all dapps
[2015-11-12 18:11:45] jung1 : microsoft and ibm are in
[2015-11-12 18:12:07] jung1 : qould be bigger market cap than ltc in next year
[2015-11-12 18:12:40] messiaen8844 : sort of, there's uncertainty in the POS field and those companies might just use their semi-private chains, no?
[2015-11-12 18:12:49] Swedishnut : yeah I see Ether playing with 25$ a coin by March
[2015-11-12 18:13:00] messiaen8844 : lol swedish
[2015-11-12 18:13:29] jung1 : nah
[2015-11-12 18:13:31] Swedishnut : its only monopoly money $$$
[2015-11-12 18:14:16] messiaen8844 : 25$ perhaps paycoin
[2015-11-12 18:14:35] TschavaTschigger : drop in 3,2,1
[2015-11-12 18:14:49] kendang : TschavaTschigger: i hope so.
[2015-11-12 18:14:55] kendang : i am way shor
[2015-11-12 18:14:59] jung1 : messiaen8844: +1
[2015-11-12 18:15:07] messiaen8844 : cool bottom at 324
[2015-11-12 18:15:34] jung1 : Swedishnut: dont forget that they collect over 1,1 milion of eth in crowdfunding