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[2017-02-21 22:56:10] etoque : lol
[2017-02-21 22:56:12] etoque : don't lie me
[2017-02-21 22:56:15] ross : id say 1150
[2017-02-21 22:56:21] Dynamix : cryptokeeper: You thinking downtrend ? :)
[2017-02-21 22:56:26] y1uy : this pump looks synthetic
[2017-02-21 22:56:33] etoque : everytime I think downtrend im rekt im tired lol
[2017-02-21 22:56:35] aguia7 : etoque: YES 1160, next days
[2017-02-21 22:56:38] cryptokeeper : Dynamix: there will be a bit of down... for sure
[2017-02-21 22:56:52] Dynamix : cryptokeeper: Any minute from now /? jeje
[2017-02-21 22:56:57] MikeHunt : y1uy: its definately a pump n dump
[2017-02-21 22:57:03] ross : etoque: dont think bearish, its a bull market till we get news
[2017-02-21 22:57:03] cryptokeeper : lol
[2017-02-21 22:57:05] cryptokeeper : ya like i know that
[2017-02-21 22:57:10] MikeHunt : apparently chinese moved to japanese exchange
[2017-02-21 22:57:20] etoque : ross: yeah good point
[2017-02-21 22:57:20] MikeHunt : after pboc clampdown
[2017-02-21 22:57:23] odieoh : Impossibur
[2017-02-21 22:57:24] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: cough 0 fees cough
[2017-02-21 22:57:35] ThatCEOGuy : MikeHunt: Back at 1000 I thought it was going down, I averaged it up to 1021 but that became a lost cause. What do i do?
[2017-02-21 22:57:42] ross : etoque: dont panic of flash dumps, cause theyre there so people can buy them
[2017-02-21 22:57:51] wurstgelee : ThatCEOGuy: ask your CFO
[2017-02-21 22:57:56] y1uy : a bull trap would be nice
[2017-02-21 22:58:00] BTCDJS : guys when you're trading here at 100x you need to be more like john wick. He is a man of focus, commitment, and sheer will
[2017-02-21 22:58:00] y1uy : to get noobs out of the game
[2017-02-21 22:58:04] y1uy : before real run to ETF
[2017-02-21 22:58:13] y1uy : also, a lot of alts dumped before btc pump
[2017-02-21 22:58:13] y1uy : so yh
[2017-02-21 22:58:17] wurstgelee : BTCDJS: haha
[2017-02-21 22:58:32] BTCDJS : :)
[2017-02-21 22:58:40] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: how much real money is ur position worth?
[2017-02-21 22:58:55] etoque : 100 dollar
[2017-02-21 22:58:56] etoque : lol
[2017-02-21 22:59:01] ThatCEOGuy : MikeHunt: 10k if I lose it all
[2017-02-21 22:59:12] wurstgelee : 10 btc total margin?
[2017-02-21 22:59:18] ThatCEOGuy : -90% ROE, what do?
[2017-02-21 22:59:18] wurstgelee : in that position?
[2017-02-21 22:59:22] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: is 10k a lot to you? u rich?
[2017-02-21 22:59:23] etoque : but I,ve lost like 188 btc into altcoin last years im so pissed off
[2017-02-21 22:59:45] ThatCEOGuy : It would suck a lot but I'm not close to retirement yet.
[2017-02-21 22:59:56] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: are you on swap?
[2017-02-21 23:00:01] ThatCEOGuy : Yes
[2017-02-21 23:00:08] ross : that aint good
[2017-02-21 23:00:12] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: where is the LIQ?
[2017-02-21 23:00:19] tracymulan : i am new here
[2017-02-21 23:00:22] ThatCEOGuy : 1190
[2017-02-21 23:00:22] wurstgelee : 1200 he said
[2017-02-21 23:00:27] wurstgelee : so i dont get the 90% down
[2017-02-21 23:00:29] aguia7 : etoque: what you think, trade altcoins in poloniex ?
[2017-02-21 23:00:31] ross : i once got LIQ'd, then pboc news happened and I went from 0.1 to 1.3 in a day
[2017-02-21 23:00:36] etoque : aguia7: since 4 years,yes
[2017-02-21 23:00:42] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: was funding good to you?
[2017-02-21 23:00:44] wurstgelee : unless he added margiin ofc...
[2017-02-21 23:00:48] wurstgelee : *-i
[2017-02-21 23:00:49] etoque : aguia7: made 188 btc from 0.03 in 4 years,but lost all in 6 month lol
[2017-02-21 23:01:02] loomdart : manage yo risks
[2017-02-21 23:01:02] flux : XBCH17 halted?
[2017-02-21 23:01:12] ThatCEOGuy : BTCDJS: I already cashed some out so the realized PNL took that anyway
[2017-02-21 23:01:13] etoque : btc uptrend kill me
[2017-02-21 23:01:28] garbageboy : i am all in short
[2017-02-21 23:01:32] aguia7 : etoque: you gain new bitcoins
[2017-02-21 23:01:34] garbageboy : this isnt going to ath
[2017-02-21 23:01:37] BitMEX_Sam : flux: You probably just caught a session boundary, we archive some data every 8 hours which very temporarily closes an instrument
[2017-02-21 23:01:47] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: what percentage is the profit from funding to the amount of bitcoin margin?
[2017-02-21 23:01:55] etoque : finex again pointing north
[2017-02-21 23:02:15] ThatCEOGuy : BTCDJS: Dont understand
[2017-02-21 23:03:00] tracymulan : how can i deposit money in my account
[2017-02-21 23:03:10] BTCDJS : say your margin was 1btc. how much did you get from funding relative to your margin. 10%? 20% 100%?
[2017-02-21 23:03:15] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy:
[2017-02-21 23:03:28] aguia7 : etoque: investing a litle bitcoins in bitclubnetwork, i mining there, the profit is litle, but safe, secure
[2017-02-21 23:03:30] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: i have some other odd update-related things, like order data in active orders-tab getting update with a great delay. as in several seconds.
[2017-02-21 23:03:32] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: when were you short from?
[2017-02-21 23:03:48] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: 100k contracts, 1021 entry, 10x
[2017-02-21 23:03:52] MikeHunt : ^what he said
[2017-02-21 23:03:52] wurstgelee : might be on my end ofc, as always
[2017-02-21 23:03:57] etoque : aguia7: ah I have 10 GPU since 1 years mining at home and giving me heating for winters lol :P
[2017-02-21 23:04:34] ThatCEOGuy : BTCDJS: 990 but managed to average it up to 1021
[2017-02-21 23:04:55] wurstgelee : "managed to"
[2017-02-21 23:04:57] wurstgelee : lol :D
[2017-02-21 23:05:17] ThatCEOGuy : Should I save what little I can or hope it drops enough to save me?
[2017-02-21 23:05:24] wurstgelee : read: u added to a losing positiion
[2017-02-21 23:05:36] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: yeah just HODL
[2017-02-21 23:05:45] ThatCEOGuy : wurstgelee: Yeah, at some point I realized it was a bad idea. Didn't think it would go up this high for no reason
[2017-02-21 23:06:00] ThatCEOGuy : BTCDJS: But what if we blow past ATH and I get liqed?
[2017-02-21 23:06:02] BitNut : It is going much higher
[2017-02-21 23:06:12] BitNut : 1,450 by the end of March
[2017-02-21 23:06:27] BitNut : May have a breather soon though.
[2017-02-21 23:06:37] wurstgelee : ThatCEOGuy: so you put 10 btc in and ur unrealised pnl says -9 btc with a liquidation price of 1200?
[2017-02-21 23:06:38] wurstgelee : oO
[2017-02-21 23:06:55] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: if you close now and it drops youll kick yourself. But if it we trade way above spot and you get LIQed youll get paid that difference
[2017-02-21 23:06:55] ThatCEOGuy : wurstgelee: Yes
[2017-02-21 23:06:58] MikeHunt : not sure what to say
[2017-02-21 23:07:03] MikeHunt : really difficult position
[2017-02-21 23:07:05] wurstgelee : those numbers dont really add up
[2017-02-21 23:07:11] ThatCEOGuy : BTCDJS: What difference?
[2017-02-21 23:07:40] aandy : id just wait- it will retrace eventually and get out at a lower price. still take a loss but less. get out at 50/60% IMO
[2017-02-21 23:07:41] wurstgelee : well, its late, i am baked, what do i know
[2017-02-21 23:07:59] etoque : I was had something to smoke ughh
[2017-02-21 23:08:03] etoque : wish
[2017-02-21 23:08:08] ross : aandy: Probably the more sensible option
[2017-02-21 23:08:25] ThatCEOGuy : aandy: You don't think It'll go lower than that? Just take the 50% loss and be happy with that?
[2017-02-21 23:08:47] MikeHunt : im in a similar albeit less serious position of a -50% short from 1032
[2017-02-21 23:08:52] ThatCEOGuy : At this point I'm not sure it'll retrace at all the way its been going
[2017-02-21 23:08:59] MikeHunt : try and keep it alive til 10th march is my plan
[2017-02-21 23:09:01] ross : ThatCEOGuy: If you can survive to march 11 and etf gets disapproved then youll be in luck
[2017-02-21 23:09:05] aandy : well that is the safest option- it can retrace and then pump back to higher then before. then you completely fucked
[2017-02-21 23:09:09] ross : but i think itll go higher than 1200
[2017-02-21 23:09:19] PepeLovesBitcoin : why is futures so bearish here? $20 premium compared to OKC $30 premium
[2017-02-21 23:09:30] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: can you afford any more bitcoins?
[2017-02-21 23:09:33] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: just HODL get LIQed or survive. Its too close to LIQ price and theres a chance it will turn around anyway. let me know what happened if you get LIQed?
[2017-02-21 23:10:04] ross : BTCDJS: I wouldn't be around to tell you if it were me
[2017-02-21 23:10:06] ThatCEOGuy : Not sure throwing more money at this would be a good idea...
[2017-02-21 23:10:20] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: how much money did you get from funding?
[2017-02-21 23:10:37] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: no dont add to it
[2017-02-21 23:10:43] MikeHunt : i have an idea
[2017-02-21 23:10:46] MikeHunt : buy some btc
[2017-02-21 23:10:48] MikeHunt : trade with it
[2017-02-21 23:10:49] MikeHunt : BTFD
[2017-02-21 23:10:55] MikeHunt : then wen ur near liq
[2017-02-21 23:11:02] MikeHunt : average it up a bit
[2017-02-21 23:11:19] ThatCEOGuy : BTCDJS: No idea, I cashed some out so realized PNL is negative
[2017-02-21 23:11:32] MikeHunt : i bought $100 btc today and made +$60 with it so far
[2017-02-21 23:11:53] ThatCEOGuy : MikeHunt: How far to average it up? I can't keep adding to a short at $2000...
[2017-02-21 23:12:02] aandy : go to account- click trades- and you can see how much u gained from funding
[2017-02-21 23:12:17] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: if you BTFD by longing the bottoms u can easily make a lot and use the profits to average up
[2017-02-21 23:12:20] aandy : "looking for trade history"
[2017-02-21 23:12:37] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: dont do what mike said. dont add. cos if we break ATH it will move major. if it retraces it will go past where you entered. Just HODL
[2017-02-21 23:12:53] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: im suggesting he does that to keep it alive until march10
[2017-02-21 23:13:01] aethlios : could we see 250 usd premium march if etf accepted??
[2017-02-21 23:13:19] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: but not averaging up anymore than necessary
[2017-02-21 23:13:20] BTCDJS : dono
[2017-02-21 23:13:30] ThatCEOGuy : aandy: There's a bunch, looks like the total might be 1 BTC or something
[2017-02-21 23:13:53] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: why is he averaging up till march 10?
[2017-02-21 23:13:56] ThatCEOGuy : MikeHunt: Unless ETF is approved and I lose even more money?
[2017-02-21 23:14:23] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: only average up when near LIQ, otherwqise use spare BTC to make money for when as forementioned happens
[2017-02-21 23:14:27] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: you made one BTC profit? after using how much to open the trade?
[2017-02-21 23:14:43] ThatCEOGuy : 10
[2017-02-21 23:14:54] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: if ETC is approved i'd get out of the position straight away and long
[2017-02-21 23:15:05] MikeHunt : ETF*
[2017-02-21 23:15:21] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: if we break ATH regardless of ETF we are going up
[2017-02-21 23:15:32] ThatCEOGuy : MikeHunt: I'm already -90% ROE, by then there might not be anything left to go long with
[2017-02-21 23:15:44] mxtrad342 : BTCDJS: excuse my ignorance... what is ATH?
[2017-02-21 23:15:45] wurstgelee : meanwhile bitflyer making high after high...
[2017-02-21 23:15:48] etoque : why u dont close it after reaching 10% lol,
[2017-02-21 23:15:51] ross : All Time High
[2017-02-21 23:15:57] BTCDJS : mxtrad342: All Time High
[2017-02-21 23:16:03] mxtrad342 : ah... thanks
[2017-02-21 23:16:20] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: japan seems to have stalled temporarily at 1150
[2017-02-21 23:16:20] ThatCEOGuy : etoque: I thought the rise made no sense, I thought we were due for a drop
[2017-02-21 23:16:53] etoque : jeez
[2017-02-21 23:16:53] ThatCEOGuy : OkCoin is already at 1090...
[2017-02-21 23:16:58] etoque : how much u put ?
[2017-02-21 23:16:59] ThatCEOGuy : Nevermind
[2017-02-21 23:17:07] ThatCEOGuy : Still
[2017-02-21 23:17:21] ThatCEOGuy : etoque: More than I should have apparently
[2017-02-21 23:17:25] etoque : lol
[2017-02-21 23:17:40] etoque : wep
[2017-02-21 23:17:47] etoque : that's crypto
[2017-02-21 23:18:02] MikeHunt : 1150 is quite a strong resistance point
[2017-02-21 23:18:04] MikeHunt : it might hold
[2017-02-21 23:18:28] Dynamix : MikeHunt: Can we really get up there ? lolol
[2017-02-21 23:18:33] ThatCEOGuy : MikeHunt: For a couple days until it goes even higher?
[2017-02-21 23:18:44] ross : ThatCEOGuy: Its hard to say
[2017-02-21 23:18:56] etoque : its already very bullish
[2017-02-21 23:19:02] ross : ThatCEOGuy: Lets hope in an hour china dumps
[2017-02-21 23:19:05] etoque : might keep this rithm
[2017-02-21 23:19:09] etoque : rythm
[2017-02-21 23:19:36] BitNut : 1,450 gents by the end of March
[2017-02-21 23:19:39] etoque : lol for the first time of the day im in profit
[2017-02-21 23:19:42] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: we will get a pull back at some point
[2017-02-21 23:19:58] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: i dont think this has bubbled into terminal phase yet
[2017-02-21 23:20:35] ThatCEOGuy : MikeHunt: Knowing my luck it's gonna go up just enough to liq me, then drop down to 700 to spit in my face..
[2017-02-21 23:20:38] etoque : look like 1150 very soon
[2017-02-21 23:21:04] etoque : ThatCEOGuy: under 1000 is finish
[2017-02-21 23:21:10] etoque : never going to see it again
[2017-02-21 23:21:36] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: remember if u do close position, u can re-open a long of 10k contracts and if it goes to 1300-1400, u'd make a bit
[2017-02-21 23:21:39] MikeHunt : then u could short top
[2017-02-21 23:21:43] MikeHunt : and make it all back
[2017-02-21 23:21:52] Apocalyptic : etoque: guys were saying the same in late 2013
[2017-02-21 23:22:00] MikeHunt : even if it dropped at 1200, u could still short n make it back
[2017-02-21 23:22:04] loomdart : lol
[2017-02-21 23:22:07] loomdart : late 2013
[2017-02-21 23:22:09] etoque : Apocalyptic: but its 2017 now,not 2013
[2017-02-21 23:22:12] loomdart : when mark karpeles was pumping us
[2017-02-21 23:22:24] MikeHunt : look at the pattern between november and mid-december
[2017-02-21 23:22:25] etoque : we don't have just bitstamp and mtgox now lol there's like 50 exchange
[2017-02-21 23:22:31] loomdart : THERE ARE NO FRACTALS
[2017-02-21 23:22:35] loomdart : ONLY
[2017-02-21 23:22:36] loomdart : MOON
[2017-02-21 23:22:50] garbageboy : pump it loom dart
[2017-02-21 23:22:53] garbageboy : :*
[2017-02-21 23:22:53] ThatCEOGuy : MikeHunt: How can I make it back after losing 90%?
[2017-02-21 23:23:00] etoque : buy the dips trick work all the time for btc
[2017-02-21 23:23:26] ThatCEOGuy : What if I close now, go long, then it drop like a stone and I lose that 10k contracts too??
[2017-02-21 23:23:27] Apocalyptic : @loomdart gotta admit mark pumped us real good
[2017-02-21 23:23:28] aandy : ThatCEOGuy: youll have to get it back slowly
[2017-02-21 23:23:40] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: thats the gamble you take
[2017-02-21 23:23:49] loomdart : mark did pump us good
[2017-02-21 23:23:50] ThruTheFloor : etoque: Until you accidentally catch a falling knife
[2017-02-21 23:23:51] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: in future use stops and never let it get that way
[2017-02-21 23:23:51] loomdart : but mark is a noob
[2017-02-21 23:23:58] loomdart : we have real pumpers now
[2017-02-21 23:24:01] ubba : yeah do that ThatCEOGuy
[2017-02-21 23:24:08] etoque : ThruTheFloor: ahah lets hope not
[2017-02-21 23:24:27] MikeHunt : luckily my LIQ is closer to 1300
[2017-02-21 23:24:30] MikeHunt : so should survive
[2017-02-21 23:24:39] ThatCEOGuy : MikeHunt: I thought it was gonna drop again soon. Every time it consolidated I thought it was about to drop
[2017-02-21 23:24:54] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: so did i but this thing has a lot of power behind it
[2017-02-21 23:25:23] ThatCEOGuy : MikeHunt: What thing? Nothing changed. No news nothing. Makes no sense.
[2017-02-21 23:25:24] aandy : when media coverage comes in its going to fomo more
[2017-02-21 23:25:34] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: i think they're aiming for 1300-1400 by ETF day
[2017-02-21 23:25:46] ThatCEOGuy : MikeHunt: F uck me
[2017-02-21 23:25:50] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: how long you been trading?
[2017-02-21 23:25:57] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: then its either a massive drop or massive climb
[2017-02-21 23:26:02] etoque : lol not always need news to get nup
[2017-02-21 23:26:06] ThatCEOGuy : This was my first trade
[2017-02-21 23:26:17] aandy : big move for first time damn @ThatCEOGuy
[2017-02-21 23:26:25] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: what made you go short
[2017-02-21 23:26:39] ThatCEOGuy : Looked like it was gonna do down.
[2017-02-21 23:26:46] ThatCEOGuy : It did not go down.
[2017-02-21 23:27:05] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: you should never have opened your first trade with 10btc
[2017-02-21 23:27:06] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: how much u earn per year? are 10k life savings?
[2017-02-21 23:27:32] ThatCEOGuy : MikeHunt: I can make it back... eventually. But its all I got rn
[2017-02-21 23:27:52] ThatCEOGuy : BTCDJS: Hindsight sucks. What do now?
[2017-02-21 23:28:02] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: there was a chance it would go down and there still is. HODL
[2017-02-21 23:28:17] spice : where did you enter? whats your liquidation mark?
[2017-02-21 23:28:32] BTCDJS : youre too close to LIQ
[2017-02-21 23:28:41] ThatCEOGuy : BTCDJS: As we inch closer and closer to my liq its looking less and less likely
[2017-02-21 23:28:57] spice : whats your liq?
[2017-02-21 23:29:10] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: regardless of what happens, go download the FXCM training course and watch em, especially the risk management video
[2017-02-21 23:29:15] ThatCEOGuy : Around 1190-1200 dont wanna give exactly numbers
[2017-02-21 23:29:30] spice : Fair enough
[2017-02-21 23:29:32] ThatCEOGuy : MikeHunt: Where?
[2017-02-21 23:29:43] spice : If you close now - how much are you down?
[2017-02-21 23:29:53] ThatCEOGuy : spice: 90% atm
[2017-02-21 23:29:57] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: TBH mate you YOLO gambled there mate. It couldve gone either way on a gamble like that
[2017-02-21 23:30:23] ThatCEOGuy : BTCDJS: What other choices are there? Either it goes up or down, no?
[2017-02-21 23:30:27] spice : Just hold man, for the sake of 10%
[2017-02-21 23:30:35] etoque : ihhh<
[2017-02-21 23:30:40] etoque : its risky
[2017-02-21 23:30:49] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: its called "FXeducator Forex Trading with Ed Ponsi"
[2017-02-21 23:30:50] spice : Once you close you realise your loss, at the moment you havent lost anything
[2017-02-21 23:31:00] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: you may as well consider it gone. But hope it goes down
[2017-02-21 23:31:15] etoque : yeah<
[2017-02-21 23:31:16] BTCDJS : so stop stressing and accept the loss
[2017-02-21 23:31:18] ThruTheFloor : MikeHunt: Ponsi, sounds legit
[2017-02-21 23:31:27] etoque : BTCDJS: +1
[2017-02-21 23:31:35] MikeHunt : ThruTheFloor: he worked at FXCM
[2017-02-21 23:31:37] BTCDJS : But HODL
[2017-02-21 23:31:38] MikeHunt : training guy
[2017-02-21 23:31:42] etoque : its the best way to learn imo anyway
[2017-02-21 23:31:50] spice : Dont close for 1 BTC
[2017-02-21 23:31:58] etoque : 1 btc is 1 btc
[2017-02-21 23:32:05] etoque : you can make 10 btc with
[2017-02-21 23:32:08] ThatCEOGuy : spice: @BTCDJS That's what I can't decide. Accept the loss and try to save the 10% or hope and pray it goes down enougn soon to save me.
[2017-02-21 23:32:25] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: to save cash here is a free and well reviewed risk management forex video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpGz13ByJjU
[2017-02-21 23:32:47] spice : It is but if he already loses 9, whats the huge difference
[2017-02-21 23:33:14] MikeHunt : spice: well if he wants to try again or close position, he has a way to make money
[2017-02-21 23:33:18] BTCDJS : If it was me I would HODL. you still have some BTC though outside of this account right?
[2017-02-21 23:33:18] MikeHunt : rather than keep loosing it
[2017-02-21 23:33:27] ThatCEOGuy : BTCDJS: Nope
[2017-02-21 23:33:37] etoque : MikeHunt: +10
[2017-02-21 23:33:43] BTCDJS : Not even the 1btc you withdrew?
[2017-02-21 23:33:47] etoque : accept it and start making it back
[2017-02-21 23:34:01] aandy : just wait for a retrace and get out at 50/60% loss
[2017-02-21 23:34:10] aandy : but its a gamble if that happens first or liq
[2017-02-21 23:34:12] ThatCEOGuy : BTCDJS: Lost most of that at BTC-e I'm great at this aren't I?
[2017-02-21 23:34:18] etoque : spike during last night was a good opportunity tog et out of that short lol
[2017-02-21 23:34:34] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: why not open a long with some cash down the sofa?
[2017-02-21 23:34:59] ThatCEOGuy : MikeHunt: After losing this much, what good is a $3 long?
[2017-02-21 23:35:11] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: is that all u have on you? $3 ?
[2017-02-21 23:35:14] etoque : lol
[2017-02-21 23:35:20] ThatCEOGuy : sofa change
[2017-02-21 23:35:23] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: how the hell u find 10k spare?
[2017-02-21 23:35:33] ThatCEOGuy : Savings
[2017-02-21 23:35:37] MikeHunt : ahhh
[2017-02-21 23:35:38] MikeHunt : fomo trader
[2017-02-21 23:35:42] MikeHunt : mom n pap
[2017-02-21 23:35:44] ThatCEOGuy : Pretty much
[2017-02-21 23:36:40] MikeHunt : looking at current pattern this should flash down to 1060
[2017-02-21 23:36:42] MikeHunt : like it has before
[2017-02-21 23:36:55] MikeHunt : u could set a stop there
[2017-02-21 23:36:57] MikeHunt : ull take a hit
[2017-02-21 23:37:03] MikeHunt : but better than -90%
[2017-02-21 23:37:13] Sultan Pepper : Your parents gave you 10k?
[2017-02-21 23:37:21] Sultan Pepper : what the f uck
[2017-02-21 23:37:38] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: how old r u if u dont mind me asking?
[2017-02-21 23:37:42] MikeHunt : or rough age?
[2017-02-21 23:38:13] ThatCEOGuy : MikeHunt: If it goes down all the way to 1060, no chance it'll go down lower?
[2017-02-21 23:38:23] ThatCEOGuy : Late 20s
[2017-02-21 23:38:33] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: what type of job u do?
[2017-02-21 23:38:48] ThatCEOGuy : Rather not say, getting too personal
[2017-02-21 23:38:50] MikeHunt : to get 10k i suspect ur at least a full timer? skilled labor?
[2017-02-21 23:39:15] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: Dude. All in on a first trade? jeeze even when I had my first 16 btc I lost it 1BTC at a time my first time trading. just imagine if you traded with 0.2 btc at a time. you couldve learnt a lesson in risk management and still be around to fight another day. You entered this trade on a gamble and got bad luck. Now you just got to hope for good luck
[2017-02-21 23:39:24] flux : so many markets not posting trades on bitmex
[2017-02-21 23:39:31] flux : eth, btc/cny...
[2017-02-21 23:40:21] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: what im trying to gauge is how well u can keep this alive til mar10
[2017-02-21 23:41:08] ThatCEOGuy : Depends how high it goes I guess. Can't save it if it goes to 3k
[2017-02-21 23:41:16] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: mike 1200 is above ATH. If we break ATH he will just lose more money by adding.
[2017-02-21 23:41:31] ThatCEOGuy : Just throwing money into a fire at that point feels like
[2017-02-21 23:41:45] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: Dont add
[2017-02-21 23:42:33] BTCDJS : If we break ath this thing is going parabolic
[2017-02-21 23:42:41] yungyang : ThatCEOGuy: my nigga if @MikeHunt is giving you advice, the situation IS BAD
[2017-02-21 23:42:44] BTCDJS : dont lose anymore than you have
[2017-02-21 23:42:53] MikeHunt : yungyang: -90% bad lol
[2017-02-21 23:43:00] ThatCEOGuy : :(
[2017-02-21 23:43:00] etoque : lol wise desicion to accept loss and goes on
[2017-02-21 23:43:05] yungyang : oh shit
[2017-02-21 23:43:22] ThatCEOGuy : etoque: Accept loss as in all of it, or the 90%?
[2017-02-21 23:43:25] MikeHunt : it wont go 3k by mar10
[2017-02-21 23:43:27] etoque : yes
[2017-02-21 23:43:28] reyno : ThatCEOGuy: Wow mate I feel for you, that was a stupid thing to do tho! You need to write it off and move on, cash out the last etc now and take a break I can't see this going down anytime soon, I think there may be a high chance we test the ATH at some point this week
[2017-02-21 23:43:29] MikeHunt : mar10 is liberation day
[2017-02-21 23:43:32] etoque : better than 100% no?
[2017-02-21 23:43:35] yungyang : ThatCEOGuy: dude if you're young...go out sell some of your shit and but it all in btc
[2017-02-21 23:43:41] etoque : Trust me I lost 188 btc
[2017-02-21 23:43:47] yungyang : if you have a family give up and never come bakc
[2017-02-21 23:43:47] etoque : lol
[2017-02-21 23:44:00] MikeHunt : etoque: how much u have now roughly?
[2017-02-21 23:44:08] MikeHunt : made it bk?
[2017-02-21 23:44:10] BTCDJS : reyno: his LIQ is above ATH
[2017-02-21 23:44:16] etoque : eh 1 btc?
[2017-02-21 23:44:26] etoque : withdrawl my last 5 btc for mining stuff
[2017-02-21 23:44:34] BTCDJS : It could turn around for him
[2017-02-21 23:44:41] etoque : that's still doesn'T have pay the roi in 8 month
[2017-02-21 23:45:11] etoque : but if btc go into parabolic explosion,im good,like you too
[2017-02-21 23:45:16] yungyang : You're still in a trade? Idk the details but probably should take the loss
[2017-02-21 23:45:39] reyno : BTCDJS: I highly doubt it will turn round for him, if we test the ATH were entering unknown territory theres surely going to be a pump af at least $50 immediately once we broke through if not more
[2017-02-21 23:46:11] MikeHunt : 4hr chart suggests heavy resistance at 1175, 1day chart suggests heavy resistance at 1190
[2017-02-21 23:46:19] MikeHunt : on stamp
[2017-02-21 23:46:59] MikeHunt : next ones above ATH are 1250 and 1384
[2017-02-21 23:47:14] MikeHunt : (basically 1400)
[2017-02-21 23:47:14] BTCDJS : reyno: if we break through ATH we are moving like we did in 2013. Its still possible to retrace
[2017-02-21 23:47:54] ThatCEOGuy : BTCDJS: If we break thru ATH I'm gonna get liqed and a retrace will come too late
[2017-02-21 23:47:55] rapidtrades : price is moving exactly as it did at the start of the year, the great fomo b4 domo
[2017-02-21 23:48:18] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: ^^ this guy went all in 10btc
[2017-02-21 23:48:20] MikeHunt : grorious nippon still stuck at 1150
[2017-02-21 23:48:20] rapidtrades : one of the bigger chinese exchanges could be insolvent and is doing an exit scam
[2017-02-21 23:48:26] BTCDJS : his LIQ is 1200
[2017-02-21 23:48:41] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: Should he hold or take the 90% loss?
[2017-02-21 23:48:51] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: not sure if it will save him in time thou
[2017-02-21 23:49:07] MikeHunt : there is another option
[2017-02-21 23:49:13] MikeHunt : add cash and deleverage
[2017-02-21 23:49:21] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: I suggested HODL
[2017-02-21 23:49:51] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: he is 10X
[2017-02-21 23:49:52] reyno : rapidtrades: I vote get out asap
[2017-02-21 23:50:04] rapidtrades : if that's his entire risk capital, he should reduce the size drastically
[2017-02-21 23:50:10] ThatCEOGuy : MikeHunt: I did that already. I was 50x short 990 at first, brought it down to 10x at 1021 before I ran out
[2017-02-21 23:50:23] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: he is 10x long swap
[2017-02-21 23:50:45] spice : 50x short??
[2017-02-21 23:50:47] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: sell some contracts
[2017-02-21 23:50:55] MikeHunt : 100k contracts, 10x,.1021 entry, 1200 liq
[2017-02-21 23:51:03] BTCDJS : or buy rather at limit prices
[2017-02-21 23:51:11] reyno : Well that ever you decide bro I hope you manage to salvage something out of this predicament
[2017-02-21 23:51:32] MikeHunt : next week i might be the CEO guy lol
[2017-02-21 23:51:38] MikeHunt : me and my 1300 liq
[2017-02-21 23:51:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1090 @ 1120.99
[2017-02-21 23:51:43] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 50 @ 1120.72
[2017-02-21 23:51:43] REKT : Have a bowl of chop-chop suey!
[2017-02-21 23:51:43] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: long a third of that ammount
[2017-02-21 23:51:51] reyno : MikeHunt: Are you short as well?
[2017-02-21 23:51:59] MikeHunt : reyno: still got that short from january
[2017-02-21 23:52:14] jzayy : Why am I down 140 on realized pnl
[2017-02-21 23:52:35] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: do not market buy
[2017-02-21 23:52:39] reyno : MikeHunt: what entry?
[2017-02-21 23:52:44] ThatCEOGuy : BTCDJS: Why not?
[2017-02-21 23:52:45] MikeHunt : jzayy: tell us ur position: contracts? entry? leverage? liq price?
[2017-02-21 23:52:45] BTCDJS : limit orders only
[2017-02-21 23:52:49] MikeHunt : reyno: 1032
[2017-02-21 23:53:00] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: because you will lose more money
[2017-02-21 23:53:00] Sultan Pepper : Stop hunt incoming
[2017-02-21 23:53:03] MikeHunt : reyno: i averaged it up from 894
[2017-02-21 23:53:16] jzayy : Why? Lol do you need all that
[2017-02-21 23:53:22] rapidtrades : im down <5% and i've been short since 800
[2017-02-21 23:53:30] rapidtrades : u have to keep risk low in this game
[2017-02-21 23:53:35] reyno : MikeHunt: ah wow, how many contracts?
[2017-02-21 23:53:46] MikeHunt : reyno: 20k
[2017-02-21 23:53:58] MikeHunt : 5x
[2017-02-21 23:54:10] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: just look at the order book pick the top price in red and choose half or a third of the ammount of contracts you hold. And set a limit order and wait for it to get hit
[2017-02-21 23:54:12] jzayy : .14 loss
[2017-02-21 23:54:24] etoque : lol bitmex chart is totally opposite of bitfinex chart in last 2 min
[2017-02-21 23:54:42] MikeHunt : etoque: near res points bitmex gets scared to venture fourth
[2017-02-21 23:54:47] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: pull ur liquidation lower, don't give the f*Ckers free money in case they get their ETF
[2017-02-21 23:54:50] reyno : MikeHunt: ah not too much then, how long are you willing to hold for?
[2017-02-21 23:55:14] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: if ETF goes through i will eject instantly
[2017-02-21 23:55:14] rapidtrades : I want them all out by ADL above 1200-1250
[2017-02-21 23:55:35] DorianWhack-A-Moto : rapidtrades: you're short since 800? how are you expecting to make any money?
[2017-02-21 23:55:42] rapidtrades : it will be fun to watch them scramble and get back in
[2017-02-21 23:55:47] MikeHunt : reyno: i am to keep it alive until mar10 (ETF)
[2017-02-21 23:55:55] BTCDJS : DorianWhack-A-Moto: funding dude
[2017-02-21 23:56:00] rapidtrades : DorianWhack-A-Moto: it drops to < 800
[2017-02-21 23:56:10] BTCDJS : and that
[2017-02-21 23:56:15] flux : how come (XBCH17 had had no trades for 30m?
[2017-02-21 23:56:19] DorianWhack-A-Moto : lol funding gimme a break
[2017-02-21 23:56:26] rapidtrades : flux: refresh
[2017-02-21 23:56:43] etoque : thx for 1120 coin
[2017-02-21 23:56:43] MikeHunt : DorianWhack-A-Moto: if ETF passes it'll be 0.375% the whole way up
[2017-02-21 23:56:54] flux : rapidtrades: i have been constantly
[2017-02-21 23:57:00] rangle : do i short now
[2017-02-21 23:57:10] DorianWhack-A-Moto : MikeHunt: yeah probably better to have a good long open in that event
[2017-02-21 23:57:19] Sultan Pepper : You guys hear about the guy who was short traget stocks, underwater, and tried to blow up 10 of them to lower the prices?
[2017-02-21 23:57:22] jzayy : I haven't closed any of my position why is my realized pnl -.14?
[2017-02-21 23:57:24] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: right problem is the run up will be short and furious and the funding will not help much
[2017-02-21 23:57:45] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: maybe low leverage is best idea, slow and no ADL
[2017-02-21 23:57:48] rapidtrades : that's why capping at 0.375% is dumb
[2017-02-21 23:57:52] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: let the others fight over 10-50x
[2017-02-21 23:58:06] ThatCEOGuy : Sultan Pepper: How do I blow up bitcoin?
[2017-02-21 23:58:13] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: you ok?
[2017-02-21 23:58:22] ThatCEOGuy : BTCDJS: Not really, no
[2017-02-21 23:58:24] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: allah akbar?
[2017-02-21 23:58:32] cryptillian : ThatCEOGuy: vote unlimited
[2017-02-21 23:58:37] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: did you set some buy orders?
[2017-02-21 23:58:38] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: leverage is irrelevant, know ur entry&exit and calculate % risk per trade
[2017-02-21 23:58:39] Sultan Pepper : ThatCEOGuy: dont worry, it will probably get worse
[2017-02-21 23:58:54] ThatCEOGuy : Thanks, man
[2017-02-21 23:58:56] sleger : ThatCEOGuy: welcome to rektville
[2017-02-21 23:59:12] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: yeh im doing that with leveraged longs on swap, i made $60 today so far from $100 btc injection, the h17 i want to save if possible
[2017-02-21 23:59:21] ThatCEOGuy : sleger: How do I leave?
[2017-02-21 23:59:36] sleger : You dont
[2017-02-21 23:59:36] MikeHunt : lol asking @sledger for advice, this will end well... /jk
[2017-02-21 23:59:41] ThatCEOGuy : I'm a terrible CEO
[2017-02-21 23:59:53] flux : something is wrong with XBCH17
[2017-02-21 23:59:55] Guy : Hi, I got a confirmed transaction from another exchange sending bitcoin to BitMex. Haven't received it on my Bitmex account yet. How long do I generally have to wait ?
[2017-02-22 00:00:06] MikeHunt : flux: its illiquid
[2017-02-22 00:00:07] ross : ThatCEOGuy: cut your loss now, and stick a long on with whatever u got left, youll rebuild in a week if you dont do stupid shorts
[2017-02-22 00:00:16] BTCDJS : Guy: one confirmation
[2017-02-22 00:00:24] Sultan Pepper : ThatCEOGuy: just send what btc you have left here: 3BMEXnzCNPhQrQjDrv6YpmSefTMWShpZYB and you can leave comfortably
[2017-02-22 00:00:26] rapidtrades : flux: i see trades bra, refresh
[2017-02-22 00:00:37] ThruTheFloor : Is this a good time for a 25x long?
[2017-02-22 00:00:44] rapidtrades : it always is!
[2017-02-22 00:00:44] BTCDJS : ross: dont tell him to stick a long. It might go south
[2017-02-22 00:00:50] n00b : ThruTheFloor: very good time
[2017-02-22 00:00:51] cryptokeeper : quarts turning down for what
[2017-02-22 00:00:53] rapidtrades : why not go 100/1 and make 4x more money?
[2017-02-22 00:00:58] flux : i did refresh
[2017-02-22 00:01:03] cryptokeeper : everybody is fully long too
[2017-02-22 00:01:07] Sultan Pepper : flux: true
[2017-02-22 00:01:08] rapidtrades : flux: email suport
[2017-02-22 00:01:10] ThatCEOGuy : BTCDJS: @ross That would be my luck, wouldn't it?
[2017-02-22 00:01:11] ross : /sentiment
[2017-02-22 00:01:14] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 36.92/63.09 Daily: 41.6/58.4 Weekly: 42.79/57.22 Monthly: 47.46/52.54
[2017-02-22 00:01:23] ross : look those figures
[2017-02-22 00:01:28] ross : do what the crowd does
[2017-02-22 00:01:32] ThatCEOGuy : What do they mean?
[2017-02-22 00:01:32] MikeHunt : they've dropped
[2017-02-22 00:01:32] flux : rapidtrades: when was the last trade for you on (XBCH17 ?
[2017-02-22 00:01:32] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: is your position reduced?
[2017-02-22 00:01:40] Ra : I dunno..what goes up comes down....id hold ThatCEOguy
[2017-02-22 00:01:43] MikeHunt : sentiment is lower than earlier
[2017-02-22 00:01:56] Ra : Sorry bout your luck
[2017-02-22 00:01:59] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: The eye of ra is right
[2017-02-22 00:01:59] ThatCEOGuy : ross: Is more better or worse? Hourly or monthly more important?
[2017-02-22 00:02:15] MikeHunt : also ichi on 1day suggests this could flash crash anywhere down to $880
[2017-02-22 00:02:48] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: Just HODL
[2017-02-22 00:02:54] ross : ThatCEOGuy: I wouldn't 100% trust them as the market could just crash at anytime. But if youre trading light then you could follow them
[2017-02-22 00:02:54] ThatCEOGuy : MikeHunt: Don't know ichi, any idea timeframe-wise? Drop to 880 wont help me after I got REKT
[2017-02-22 00:03:18] MikeHunt : ThatCEOGuy: well i think 1150 is the top
[2017-02-22 00:03:27] MikeHunt : temp
[2017-02-22 00:03:30] MikeHunt : then flash crash
[2017-02-22 00:03:32] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: its possible we are still ranging
[2017-02-22 00:03:58] MikeHunt : it could bounce 1020 and go back up
[2017-02-22 00:04:03] MikeHunt : $100 bull bqq
[2017-02-22 00:04:06] MikeHunt : bbq
[2017-02-22 00:04:15] BTCDJS : ThatCEOGuy: scratch that. we are too close to ath
[2017-02-22 00:04:18] etoque : maybe the top is 1200 lol
[2017-02-22 00:04:19] MikeHunt : like last weeks monday bull bbq
[2017-02-22 00:04:21] DorianWhack-A-Moto : ThatCEOGuy: Go to your bank. Tell them you need a car loan. Take money and put 100x long.
[2017-02-22 00:04:23] etoque : maybe it won't crash
[2017-02-22 00:04:44] DorianWhack-A-Moto : l should be a financial advisor
[2017-02-22 00:04:46] ross : DorianWhack-A-Moto: wise words
[2017-02-22 00:04:49] -_- : looking droopy
[2017-02-22 00:04:55] -_- : better short
[2017-02-22 00:04:56] BTCDJS : it either pushes through or it crashes
[2017-02-22 00:05:01] ThatCEOGuy : DorianWhack-A-Moto: What happens if it does retrace? Wont I just get f ucked from the other side?
[2017-02-22 00:05:03] MikeHunt : i dont think we are at top of bubble yet, just a local top, so should give u a chance to deleverage or exit entirely
[2017-02-22 00:05:14] ThatCEOGuy : -_-: Waaay ahead of you, buddy
[2017-02-22 00:05:37] ross : ThatCEOGuy: screenshot your position
[2017-02-22 00:05:46] ross : i want to see this lol
[2017-02-22 00:05:58] ThatCEOGuy : ross: I'd rather not
[2017-02-22 00:06:09] n00b : this dip is the last chance to get in on the moon mission
[2017-02-22 00:06:17] ThatCEOGuy : Does this chat even have image upload?
[2017-02-22 00:06:20] -_- : ross is main market maker. he'll margin call you if you post screen shot
[2017-02-22 00:06:25] DorianWhack-A-Moto : ThatCEOGuy: If it retraces i'll buy you a beer. See? It's a win win
[2017-02-22 00:06:39] ross : -_-: my 3btc could do that
[2017-02-22 00:06:41] ThatCEOGuy : DorianWhack-A-Moto: Beer vs car loan...
[2017-02-22 00:06:55] -_- : okco1n struggling to stay above 7500 cny
[2017-02-22 00:06:59] aethlios : sleger: do you think insiders buy etf?? they know the decision??
[2017-02-22 00:07:04] -_- : dammit bitmex
[2017-02-22 00:07:08] DorianWhack-A-Moto : ThatCEOGuy: You can't drink a car loan. Think about it.
[2017-02-22 00:07:12] -_- : 0kco1n
[2017-02-22 00:07:16] -_- : 0kc01n
[2017-02-22 00:07:25] -_- : 0ko1n
[2017-02-22 00:07:34] -_- : 0kc01n
[2017-02-22 00:07:42] -_- : 0kc0in
[2017-02-22 00:07:49] -_- : okc01n
[2017-02-22 00:07:55] ThruTheFloor : -_-: Damn they got their bases covered lol
[2017-02-22 00:08:04] -_- : i think so
[2017-02-22 00:08:12] -_- : we'll just say okc now
[2017-02-22 00:08:19] -_- : okc pumpin and dumpin
[2017-02-22 00:08:26] ross : im nervous
[2017-02-22 00:08:33] ross : my liq price is close