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[2017-02-18 16:13:14] sleger : i know it comes as a shock
[2017-02-18 16:13:25] sleger : for those who dont turn their brains on often
[2017-02-18 16:13:37] MikeHunt : sleger: just got up so may take a while
[2017-02-18 16:13:56] sleger : lazy, what time is it
[2017-02-18 16:13:59] JT : sleep is for the weak
[2017-02-18 16:14:02] JT : :)
[2017-02-18 16:14:34] MikeHunt : i was just saying what i saw on the okc contracts chart
[2017-02-18 16:15:09] rapidtrades : lot of ppl suggest selling 40-60 days out but i guess this is if you want to manage the trade?
[2017-02-18 16:15:11] sleger : "t seems long positions decreased and shorts increased"
[2017-02-18 16:15:16] sleger : NO
[2017-02-18 16:15:32] sleger : rapidtrades: why they suggest that
[2017-02-18 16:15:34] sleger : ?
[2017-02-18 16:15:56] sleger : the longer the timeframe the higher the risk (and higher potential reward)
[2017-02-18 16:16:19] sleger : you can also buy far OTM to limit your downside
[2017-02-18 16:16:21] y1uy : MikeHunt: shouldnt i be the other way?
[2017-02-18 16:16:23] rapidtrades : to make the delta exposure i guess? if a stock moves they can close a leg and reopen?
[2017-02-18 16:16:32] y1uy : MikeHunt: it*
[2017-02-18 16:16:40] BTC-Noob : if the n1 futures holder on 00koin has 31504, does that mean a position of 31504*btc price= 3.3 million? anyone knows please
[2017-02-18 16:16:43] y1uy : longs has been increasing today
[2017-02-18 16:16:55] sleger : but i doubt it would be worth it for you, unless you have 200k+ they usually dont let you portfolio margining, so you are limited to low leverage
[2017-02-18 16:17:06] sleger : BTC-Noob: no
[2017-02-18 16:17:23] rapidtrades : i plan to sell with wings tho, so max loss will be capped
[2017-02-18 16:17:35] sleger : "31504*btc price= 3.3 million" <= might want to check your math there first of all @BTC-Noob
[2017-02-18 16:18:00] sleger : rapidtrades: check how much collateral they block for the premium you get
[2017-02-18 16:18:01] BTC-Noob : sleger: *33 million
[2017-02-18 16:18:07] MikeHunt : y1uy: well it might explain the MFI dropping as we go up
[2017-02-18 16:18:18] sleger : BTC-Noob: better, but its still wrong
[2017-02-18 16:18:19] BTC-Noob : or is it just 31504 times 1 dollar contract like on here
[2017-02-18 16:18:32] sleger : 1 ctrct = 100$ there
[2017-02-18 16:18:33] rapidtrades : sleger: ok i will
[2017-02-18 16:18:45] rapidtrades : they usually block all of it, essentially 1/1 leverage
[2017-02-18 16:18:48] sleger : but for small accounts its usually not worth it
[2017-02-18 16:18:49] y1uy : does mfi work well with btc now/ @MikeHunt
[2017-02-18 16:19:02] rapidtrades : so u have to buy put/call to limit the risk
[2017-02-18 16:19:16] MikeHunt : y1uy: i'll go find out but if its like forex then it means doom soon
[2017-02-18 16:19:48] BTC-Noob : sleger: wow so does it mean he has 31504 * 100 dollar contracts? i noticed a btc sign behind that number on 00kcoin, so that why im confused a bit
[2017-02-18 16:20:08] sleger : BTC-Noob: yes but he doesnt have 31k contracts anyways
[2017-02-18 16:20:27] BTC-Noob : https://www.okcoin.com/future/futureTop.do?type=0&symbol=0
[2017-02-18 16:20:51] sleger : 1 269,984 dummy
[2017-02-18 16:21:08] BTC-Noob : fucking autocorrect haha. but the nr1 holder has a total of 31504.35
[2017-02-18 16:21:13] sleger : no
[2017-02-18 16:21:30] sleger : wow this guy might beat mikehunt
[2017-02-18 16:21:42] sleger : did you go to special school ?
[2017-02-18 16:23:00] BTC-Noob : i am talking about future contracts on 0kcloin, as of 2017-02-19 00:00:00, the nr1 has 31504.35. or am i really wrong
[2017-02-18 16:23:09] BTCDJS : Sleger I just read back the chat. You are talking 70% of the time. SPAM
[2017-02-18 16:24:04] sleger : BTCDJS: please.... but seriously you were 200 out of 1000 chat, and im not even counting when you call the bot cause you cant open another tab on your computer
[2017-02-18 16:24:10] BTC-Noob : so i should multiply that nr with the 100$ price of 1 contract, or with btc price, since they mentioned a btc sign behind that number?
[2017-02-18 16:24:50] sleger : he has a 27m$ position, i dont know what you dont get so i give up, there is your answer
[2017-02-18 16:24:52] 10 : On my back to my office
[2017-02-18 16:25:01] BTCDJS : Why do I need 4 tabs when the bot gives it all in one go? It's more efficient
[2017-02-18 16:25:10] BTC-Noob : i am talking about Open BTC Futures Contracts' Rankings on 00koin
[2017-02-18 16:26:17] sleger : BTCDJS: its efficient for you, its annoying for everyone else
[2017-02-18 16:26:23] sleger : this is not your private chat
[2017-02-18 16:26:31] sleger : BTC-Noob: so am i
[2017-02-18 16:27:05] BTCDJS : sleger: you are the only one complaining. You are not everyone
[2017-02-18 16:27:16] BTC-Noob : but i am really seeing a number of 31504.35 for nr1 holder, how come you see something different
[2017-02-18 16:27:30] jzayy : why is the roe bassed on the index?
[2017-02-18 16:27:45] sleger : BTC-Noob: your number is wrong, you have ".35" there is no part of a contract
[2017-02-18 16:27:48] BTCDJS : Anyway I'm having dinner at my in laws.
[2017-02-18 16:28:01] BTCDJS : Bye
[2017-02-18 16:28:05] sleger : /spam
[2017-02-18 16:28:47] BarefootFlash : BTCDJS: Have fun
[2017-02-18 16:33:11] blacktuesday : has okcoin.com been removed from the index yet?
[2017-02-18 16:33:19] amaru : no
[2017-02-18 16:33:29] blacktuesday : any idea when?
[2017-02-18 16:33:36] yungyang : BTCDJS: I think that shit is spam too
[2017-02-18 16:33:40] amaru : nope
[2017-02-18 16:33:43] amaru : blacktuesday:
[2017-02-18 16:34:11] yungyang : you can script auto refreshes and updates to your email every 5 seconds if you want to keep updated
[2017-02-18 16:36:05] sleger : blacktuesday:
[2017-02-18 16:36:05] sleger : i t
[2017-02-18 16:36:05] sleger : hink
[2017-02-18 16:36:11] sleger : we should keep it
[2017-02-18 16:41:58] BTC-Noob : sleger: you might wanna take a look on 0koin open future contracts
[2017-02-18 16:42:37] BTC-Noob : either you are playing around or you just stupid
[2017-02-18 16:42:53] BTC-Noob : ock wekbsit + /future/futureTop.do?type=0&symbol=0
[2017-02-18 16:46:29] thxforyourbtc! : im awake and still in it !!!
[2017-02-18 16:46:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 300 @ 1061.30
[2017-02-18 16:48:48] longbydefault : tell us what happened
[2017-02-18 16:48:53] longbydefault : thxforyourbtc
[2017-02-18 16:49:18] longbydefault : price reached your liquidation value
[2017-02-18 16:50:38] thxforyourbtc! : i sold half like i said and it lowered my liq alot
[2017-02-18 16:50:51] thxforyourbtc! : only holding 25k
[2017-02-18 16:51:16] thxforyourbtc! : so yes i pussied out a bit
[2017-02-18 16:53:39] amaru : bulls keep at it
[2017-02-18 16:54:02] 10 : BTCDJS: Just got to my office
[2017-02-18 16:56:19] y1uy : thxforyourbtc!: sold on profit?
[2017-02-18 16:56:28] thxforyourbtc! : yes
[2017-02-18 16:56:43] y1uy : thxforyourbtc!: good man
[2017-02-18 17:01:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 15379 @ 1063.34
[2017-02-18 17:01:54] JT : ^^^
[2017-02-18 17:02:28] Dynamix : lol rip shorts RIPPP
[2017-02-18 17:03:46] 10 : I sold my shorts when it dropped to 1022
[2017-02-18 17:03:50] BarefootFlash : Still holdin on
[2017-02-18 17:04:20] BarefootFlash : I still had 2/3 of mine after that
[2017-02-18 17:04:30] 10 : ahh damn
[2017-02-18 17:04:37] BarefootFlash : Yeah..
[2017-02-18 17:04:55] BarefootFlash : But at least a lot less nervous than before
[2017-02-18 17:06:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 60 @ 1063.86
[2017-02-18 17:06:39] shery : /price
[2017-02-18 17:06:40] trollbot : Bitstamp: 1066.99 (0.19%)
[2017-02-18 17:06:40] trollbot : itBit: 1068.06 (0.45%)
[2017-02-18 17:06:40] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1068.5 (-0.14%)
[2017-02-18 17:06:40] trollbot : GDAX: 1069.16 (0.09%)
[2017-02-18 17:06:40] trollbot : OKCoin: 1060.14 (0.58%)
[2017-02-18 17:06:40] trollbot : Kraken: 1068.88 (0.18%)
[2017-02-18 17:08:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 750000 @ 0.00000503
[2017-02-18 17:08:36] Ugly_Old_Goat : Great Read about Dash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrKU0Ymta-U&t=2s
[2017-02-18 17:09:00] jzayy : lol ripple
[2017-02-18 17:09:47] Ugly_Old_Goat : Got lucky with priced orders and covered all my short perps at 1026 on flash crash
[2017-02-18 17:10:42] 10 : Ugly_Old_Goat: Same here haha
[2017-02-18 17:11:51] Ugly_Old_Goat : Will be a light seller 10+ up. from here. Just taking profit and lightning up my long
[2017-02-18 17:12:42] BTCDJS : /unban @Dynamix
[2017-02-18 17:12:47] Ugly_Old_Goat : Take some home, and let the rest ride. And if if breaks will repurchase
[2017-02-18 17:13:26] BarefootFlash : Wish I'd done that...
[2017-02-18 17:13:27] Ugly_Old_Goat : Bull market in tact and going higher, much much higher.
[2017-02-18 17:14:07] Ugly_Old_Goat : The newbies that bot at 1017 with stop at 990 just stay with it
[2017-02-18 17:15:15] BarefootFlash : Yeah, I didn't catch the buy that low
[2017-02-18 17:15:45] BarefootFlash : Was playing the horizontal around 1005 and got stuck in a short when it went up to 1020+
[2017-02-18 17:20:29] amaru : /sentiment
[2017-02-18 17:20:32] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 67.44/32.56 Daily: 44.07/55.93 Weekly: 45.87/54.13 Monthly: 47.63/52.37
[2017-02-18 17:21:20] Nutella : i lost my dash long cos of stupid weekly
[2017-02-18 17:21:22] Nutella : stupid
[2017-02-18 17:22:04] BTCDJS : Nutella: you got many
[2017-02-18 17:24:13] Nutella : small many
[2017-02-18 17:24:27] Nutella : it moved a lot since xpiry
[2017-02-18 17:26:22] bingbongfly : Hey, how do I get the warning sign back before placing an ordefr
[2017-02-18 17:26:30] bingbongfly : I removed it, but want it back
[2017-02-18 17:26:50] bingbongfly : Anyone know?
[2017-02-18 17:28:11] BTCDJS : Nutella: so you are a poors
[2017-02-18 17:28:51] BTCDJS : Nutella: soon you wil hav no many
[2017-02-18 17:35:13] hkmorpa : Hp
[2017-02-18 17:35:17] hkmorpa : Hi
[2017-02-18 17:37:06] c.l : bingbongfly: right top (nickname) click -> site preference -> confirmation dialogs -> ~~~ order which you want it back
[2017-02-18 17:39:09] bingbongfly : c.l: thank you! <3
[2017-02-18 17:50:09] i3 : COIN 39.58 :p
[2017-02-18 17:52:56] 10 : That drop tho
[2017-02-18 17:52:59] Yuppie : sb is messeing with the orderbook here
[2017-02-18 17:53:00] Dynamix : Dumping time
[2017-02-18 17:53:02] bingbongfly : wtf
[2017-02-18 17:53:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 25 @ 1060.16
[2017-02-18 17:53:12] 10 : Drop your shorts
[2017-02-18 17:53:55] y1uy : cheap coins
[2017-02-18 17:54:03] Dynamix : 1050
[2017-02-18 17:54:07] Dynamix : buyback there :P
[2017-02-18 17:54:15] bingbongfly : btfd
[2017-02-18 17:54:23] Dynamix : we can easily see 1040's ;
[2017-02-18 17:54:43] Brazilian Goat : Why domt btc die already? I wanna buy this crap
[2017-02-18 17:55:02] BarefootFlash : 10: Can't... :'(
[2017-02-18 17:55:10] 10 : It isnt making new lows yet
[2017-02-18 17:55:48] Dynamix : 10: It will in a bit :)
[2017-02-18 17:55:50] rullwull : 3-4 hours till reversal on 15 min chart
[2017-02-18 17:56:03] 10 : Dynamix: Hopefully
[2017-02-18 17:56:30] rullwull : but 1 hour and upper timeframes are still on the uptrend
[2017-02-18 17:57:51] y1uy : the dip candle on 15m looks weak
[2017-02-18 17:58:16] MikeHunt : y1uy: couldnt find any reason MFI wont work
[2017-02-18 17:58:19] MikeHunt : for btc
[2017-02-18 17:58:38] y1uy : MikeHunt: it looks at volume right?
[2017-02-18 17:58:55] rullwull : i shared my bot analyze, who knows what may happen)
[2017-02-18 17:59:11] y1uy : MikeHunt: mfi on eastern exchanges wont really work since their volume is fabricated
[2017-02-18 17:59:14] y1uy : not so much now but still
[2017-02-18 17:59:26] MikeHunt : y1uy: volume and price
[2017-02-18 17:59:46] MikeHunt : y1uy: im using on stamp, decreasing as this goes up
[2017-02-18 18:00:05] y1uy : MikeHunt: i will ask someone, one sec
[2017-02-18 18:03:02] y1uy : MikeHunt: Mfi isnt so accurate
[2017-02-18 18:03:10] y1uy : im looking at how well it worked in the past
[2017-02-18 18:03:10] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: china has stopped its fake volume. And stamp has low volume anyway. But is reliable
[2017-02-18 18:03:21] y1uy : BTCDJS: they're doing rebates now
[2017-02-18 18:03:24] y1uy : like 80% off fees
[2017-02-18 18:03:30] y1uy : for MM
[2017-02-18 18:03:42] BTCDJS : Are they?
[2017-02-18 18:03:48] MikeHunt : y1uy: on its own its not but other indicators like ichi cloud suggest we are way overextended
[2017-02-18 18:03:58] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: cnledger mentioned rebates as well
[2017-02-18 18:04:47] y1uy : BTCDJS: yep, okc is at least, not sure if they've activated it yet though
[2017-02-18 18:04:56] y1uy : BTCDJS: cnledger posted it
[2017-02-18 18:06:38] y1uy : MikeHunt: you are probably default settings for ichi
[2017-02-18 18:06:53] y1uy : MikeHunt: and ichi is also not very reliable
[2017-02-18 18:08:00] MikeHunt : y1uy: apparently reliable if used on longer timeframes
[2017-02-18 18:11:16] amaru : wow
[2017-02-18 18:11:22] amaru : what was that
[2017-02-18 18:11:49] Yuppie : again
[2017-02-18 18:12:21] Yuppie : Stop orders are no good idea here...up until today we did not have messing with orderbook here
[2017-02-18 18:12:44] Average : seems like someone knows the price movement ahead of time
[2017-02-18 18:12:47] Average : :-)
[2017-02-18 18:13:01] amaru : same movement on finex
[2017-02-18 18:13:07] amaru : a lil smaller
[2017-02-18 18:13:17] Yuppie : what was the cause of this 12am dump?
[2017-02-18 18:13:21] BarefootFlash : and gdax
[2017-02-18 18:14:46] amaru : Yuppie: apparently only happened here
[2017-02-18 18:17:04] NeoXx : /price
[2017-02-18 18:17:04] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1068.0 (-0.05%)
[2017-02-18 18:17:04] trollbot : itBit: 1068.23 (0.02%)
[2017-02-18 18:17:05] trollbot : GDAX: 1069.97 (0.08%)
[2017-02-18 18:17:05] trollbot : Kraken: 1068 (-0.08%)
[2017-02-18 18:17:06] trollbot : OKCoin: 1060.0 (-0.01%)
[2017-02-18 18:17:09] MikeHunt : Yuppie: funding?
[2017-02-18 18:17:13] BarefootFlash : Alright, I'm out. Hopefully I'm back tomorrow.
[2017-02-18 18:17:22] BarefootFlash : 10: Thanks. Hope we can talk more later
[2017-02-18 18:17:49] 10 : BarefootFlash: Have a good one
[2017-02-18 18:18:11] amaru : BarefootFlash: laterz
[2017-02-18 18:20:05] Tetsuo : Say your last prayer bulls!
[2017-02-18 18:20:19] jonyboy : what happened at 11:04
[2017-02-18 18:20:23] jonyboy : 11:06
[2017-02-18 18:20:23] premium_freak : make litecoin great again
[2017-02-18 18:20:30] Papou : i think its the other way around tetsuo
[2017-02-18 18:20:35] Papou : shorts about to get squeezed and break past 1100
[2017-02-18 18:20:36] Yuppie : who's short actually? sentiment seem quite on the long side here...
[2017-02-18 18:20:55] premium_freak : Yuppie: not me, long here
[2017-02-18 18:21:01] Papou : i think many are short perp but big long on march
[2017-02-18 18:21:07] Papou : since the discount was crazy days ago
[2017-02-18 18:21:20] Papou : but overall net long
[2017-02-18 18:21:41] Papou : bears just giving bulls power dumps
[2017-02-18 18:21:51] Papou : they keep taking profit but looks liek using profits to keep pumping
[2017-02-18 18:22:06] Papou : futures had to be pumped either way before a dump, futures were too low
[2017-02-18 18:22:23] Papou : but i think they will short squeeze soon since many short from the 930 mark probably
[2017-02-18 18:22:37] Papou : 1080 probably will liquidate push to 1100+
[2017-02-18 18:22:52] Papou : i say 1140 before we ping pong 1100-1140
[2017-02-18 18:23:17] Yuppie : right makes sense Papou
[2017-02-18 18:23:51] Papou : i wouldnt consider net shorting untill 1700-1800
[2017-02-18 18:24:00] rullwull : Yuppie: im lomg futures since 950 and started to add swap shorts from 1045 to collect funding fee and hedge longs
[2017-02-18 18:24:09] Papou : yep
[2017-02-18 18:24:24] Papou : either way the shorts will keep pushing futures
[2017-02-18 18:24:27] premium_freak : rullwull: isn't it expensive to be short the swap?
[2017-02-18 18:24:43] Papou : nah because swap was pumped to 1040+
[2017-02-18 18:24:43] amaru : rullwull: ni
[2017-02-18 18:24:46] Papou : while futures were 920
[2017-02-18 18:24:47] Papou : LOL
[2017-02-18 18:24:54] Papou : so was the perfect hedge
[2017-02-18 18:25:02] premium_freak : Papou: I shorted futures at bitmex and went long at okcoin
[2017-02-18 18:25:11] Papou : china is a mess
[2017-02-18 18:25:23] Papou : okcoin could go under soon
[2017-02-18 18:25:28] rullwull : collected 2,5 btc in the last 16 hours, cureent fee is not attractive, waiting for some drop later tocover shorts in profit
[2017-02-18 18:25:31] Papou : but not other exchanges
[2017-02-18 18:25:33] 10 : anyone trade forwards on cryptofacilities?
[2017-02-18 18:25:42] premium_freak : 10: yup
[2017-02-18 18:25:49] Papou : okcoin is clearly getting ignored
[2017-02-18 18:25:51] Papou : all of china is
[2017-02-18 18:25:52] Yuppie : there was this 100% trade long quarterly, short mar-futures here
[2017-02-18 18:25:57] Papou : they are just trailing due to arbitrage
[2017-02-18 18:26:17] Papou : china is getting pushed out of the bitcoin market
[2017-02-18 18:26:29] Yuppie : yeah, looks like
[2017-02-18 18:26:46] rullwull : okc futures feel good
[2017-02-18 18:26:48] Yuppie : in the probably bullish
[2017-02-18 18:26:48] y1uy : bitcoin looking very bullish
[2017-02-18 18:27:03] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: settings for cloud to use on bitcoin is 20,60,120,30
[2017-02-18 18:27:05] 10 : premium_freak: Its soo over priced and pretty large spread
[2017-02-18 18:27:14] Yuppie : without China and ETF news around
[2017-02-18 18:27:24] BTCDJS : if you're using default you may as well not bother
[2017-02-18 18:27:24] 10 : premium_freak: But there isnt any fees
[2017-02-18 18:27:28] Yuppie : I see it nonstop in media, social networks
[2017-02-18 18:27:39] Yuppie : attracts ppl to BTC
[2017-02-18 18:27:41] y1uy : BTCDJS: its mostly for stocks
[2017-02-18 18:27:54] y1uy : BTCDJS: sinces it doesnt include weekends and certain hours
[2017-02-18 18:28:03] premium_freak : 10: I use it to offset my bitmex/okc positions
[2017-02-18 18:28:06] BTCDJS : y1uy: it works well on bitcoin at those settings
[2017-02-18 18:28:21] Yuppie : LTC doesn't move at all...
[2017-02-18 18:28:33] y1uy : BTCDJS: well if you know how to customize it, itll be way better
[2017-02-18 18:28:41] y1uy : ichimoku is mostly for peasants though
[2017-02-18 18:28:41] premium_freak : LTC had a chance to move because of the segwit thing.. but I don't think it's happening anymore
[2017-02-18 18:28:42] BTCDJS : y1uy: those settings are specifically because it's 24/7
[2017-02-18 18:28:42] 10 : premium_freak: Yea thats a good idea. its not the best for short term gains
[2017-02-18 18:28:58] BTCDJS : y1uy: you're a peasant
[2017-02-18 18:29:07] Yuppie : I bought some LTC futures
[2017-02-18 18:29:07] premium_freak : 10: exactly.. I set up some shorts there and don't touch it for 2-3 months :p
[2017-02-18 18:29:15] y1uy : BTCDJS: oh i just saw the settings you posted, yeah they're the correct ones
[2017-02-18 18:29:22] rullwull : Yuppie: it will, when the last believer looses his faith in it)
[2017-02-18 18:29:23] y1uy : BTCDJS: i use the same
[2017-02-18 18:29:27] y1uy : BTCDJS: ily <3
[2017-02-18 18:29:32] 10 : premium_freak: Man you are going to make some nice profits on that
[2017-02-18 18:29:59] Yuppie : I think there is nearly no downside risk in LTC at least
[2017-02-18 18:30:11] BTCDJS : y1uy: I am a peasant too
[2017-02-18 18:30:24] Yuppie : unless there is again a crazy dump on OK futures
[2017-02-18 18:30:29] y1uy : we broke the PBOC resistance on kraken
[2017-02-18 18:30:35] y1uy : bull iz stronk
[2017-02-18 18:30:45] rullwull : Yuppie: i bought my ltc bag at 16 cny
[2017-02-18 18:31:41] Yuppie : @rullwull : spot?
[2017-02-18 18:31:53] rullwull : yes, okc
[2017-02-18 18:32:06] rullwull : okc.cn
[2017-02-18 18:32:23] Yuppie : did it dump that heavily?
[2017-02-18 18:35:55] rullwull : Yuppie: more than a year ago
[2017-02-18 18:41:33] Yuppie : damn funding was expensive...should have bought futures
[2017-02-18 18:47:50] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: thanks
[2017-02-18 18:52:03] y1uy : this funding is gonna make me rich
[2017-02-18 18:55:38] Dynamix : To go long ? :D
[2017-02-18 18:56:34] Papou : https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-fork-soon-bitcoin-unlimited-surges-past-segwit-core-blocks-drop-below-75
[2017-02-18 18:56:37] Papou : are we about to get rekt?
[2017-02-18 18:56:50] rullwull : Dynamix: yes, in XBCH17 please
[2017-02-18 18:57:35] Dynamix : rullwull: lolo nah
[2017-02-18 18:57:51] Dynamix : y1uy: Will it ? ;)
[2017-02-18 18:58:47] rullwull : Bitcoin Unlimited sucks, chinese miners are idiots do not accepting segwit
[2017-02-18 18:59:10] y1uy : Dynamix: yea 0.0039% lol
[2017-02-18 18:59:18] y1uy : rullwull: yeah they're superstitious idiots
[2017-02-18 18:59:53] y1uy : I bet they want bitcoin unlimited just because of the 8 in 8mb block size
[2017-02-18 19:00:34] Papou : i dont see how an etf could be approved with such issues
[2017-02-18 19:01:07] Papou : maybe bitcoin will fall this year, and with the predicted eth boom
[2017-02-18 19:01:19] y1uy : Papou: i dont think SEC will really care how fast bitcoin is or not
[2017-02-18 19:01:26] Papou : its not about speed
[2017-02-18 19:01:27] Tetsuo : Max leverage long @ a local top right before the fork. durin PBOC investigations. Seems the right move bulls. What could possibly go wrong
[2017-02-18 19:01:30] Papou : its about hardforking
[2017-02-18 19:01:31] BTCDJS : Papou: wait what?
[2017-02-18 19:01:34] Papou : and the volatility
[2017-02-18 19:02:03] Papou : if bitcoin unlimited keeps growing
[2017-02-18 19:02:06] Papou : bitcoin will be hardforked
[2017-02-18 19:02:07] Papou : gg
[2017-02-18 19:02:28] Papou : makes sense why the recent s1 ammendment by winkleboss was to explain what would happen in the event of a hardfork
[2017-02-18 19:02:40] Papou : either way, hardfork good or not, it WILL cause a dump
[2017-02-18 19:03:07] Papou : bitcoin funds can operate legally already, just to private investors, bitcoin isnt ready for an etf right now
[2017-02-18 19:03:50] Papou : winklevoss fund is already operating and profitable....etf or not doesnt change bitcoins goal or path, just temporary few month dump probably until scaling and volatility is solved
[2017-02-18 19:03:56] rullwull : y1uy: they simply wanna look important and act opposite
[2017-02-18 19:04:04] Papou : volatility is solved through distro and adoption
[2017-02-18 19:04:11] Tetsuo : if even bitcoiners wouldn´t recommend an ETF right now, why whould the SEC do
[2017-02-18 19:04:35] y1uy : rullwull: that too, communities will need to unite if they want to cooperate..
[2017-02-18 19:04:45] Papou : i suspect winklevoss etf will be rejected
[2017-02-18 19:04:46] y1uy : We have the technology and they have the labour
[2017-02-18 19:04:51] Papou : they arent gonna pump those guys to more riches
[2017-02-18 19:04:59] Papou : i think though barry's fund will be approved by end of year
[2017-02-18 19:05:21] Papou : i think they will approve the other etf's because they arent solely bitcoin based
[2017-02-18 19:05:33] Papou : so the volatility should be curbed
[2017-02-18 19:05:41] y1uy : btccny wants to break out
[2017-02-18 19:05:45] Papou : especially since eth is highly viewed
[2017-02-18 19:05:50] Papou : btcny is -30 under usd
[2017-02-18 19:05:59] Papou : its not breaking out, its just betting bought for arbitrage
[2017-02-18 19:06:36] Tetsuo : Arbitrage in China is dead boys
[2017-02-18 19:06:38] Papou : i think thats where the problem with the winklevoss etf lies, it being solely bitcoin based
[2017-02-18 19:06:55] Papou : if it was more blockchain based and diversified, has a better chance
[2017-02-18 19:07:09] Papou : because blockchain is the tech that will be the future, not bitcoin
[2017-02-18 19:07:18] Papou : bitcoin doesnt have to be around for blockchain and new tokens to exist
[2017-02-18 19:07:59] Papou : either way like i said, etf denial isnt bad and the fund will continue off the market to private investors only
[2017-02-18 19:11:40] thxforyourbtc! : arguably bitcoin is blockchain
[2017-02-18 19:13:18] BTCDJS : Wat?
[2017-02-18 19:13:22] thxforyourbtc! : everything else is just a glorified ledger/spreadsheet
[2017-02-18 19:13:48] amaru : /sentiment
[2017-02-18 19:13:51] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 39.31/60.69 Daily: 42.1/57.9 Weekly: 45.92/54.08 Monthly: 47.7/52.3
[2017-02-18 19:14:10] amaru : mewwnn
[2017-02-18 19:14:16] amaru : lol jk
[2017-02-18 19:23:48] BTCDJS : Hey guys guess what?
[2017-02-18 19:24:21] Tetsuo : BTC will soon be a failed Project?
[2017-02-18 19:24:27] Tetsuo : Everyone will move on to something else?
[2017-02-18 19:25:36] Tetsuo : Turns out that decentralization isn´t really the Thing to get stuff done?
[2017-02-18 19:25:56] MikeHunt : just imagine if they allow the ETF, massive bubble, btc hardfork....epic dump...
[2017-02-18 19:26:35] MikeHunt : i dont think retail investors would see it coming
[2017-02-18 19:27:09] Tetsuo : SEC will protect them, and won´t let it happen
[2017-02-18 19:27:13] Tetsuo : to serve and protect
[2017-02-18 19:27:38] Tetsuo : that Slogan means something
[2017-02-18 19:29:04] Tetsuo : Survey among bitcoiners say that 9/10 wouldn´t reccomend the SEC to allow an ETF due to ongoing external factors
[2017-02-18 19:29:35] Dynamix : drop drop drop
[2017-02-18 19:29:36] Dynamix : /price
[2017-02-18 19:30:13] Papou : https://www.sec.gov/oiea/investor-alerts-bulletins/investoralertsia_bitcoin.html
[2017-02-18 19:30:26] Papou : sec aint approving the winklevoss fund. it would have already been done so
[2017-02-18 19:30:47] Papou : if anything they got paid off to at least postpone the denial so insiders can profit off the hype pump
[2017-02-18 19:31:38] Papou : but they cant publically approve it because it wont make any sense to do so, especially when u read their warning page LOL
[2017-02-18 19:31:58] Papou : bitcoin funds will be kept for private accredited smart investors only
[2017-02-18 19:32:02] Papou : not joe shmoe
[2017-02-18 19:32:25] Tetsuo : smart money is moving out
[2017-02-18 19:32:27] Papou : now the other funds are a different story
[2017-02-18 19:32:40] Papou : because they arent solely bitcoin based
[2017-02-18 19:35:18] y1uy : Papou: fud more so i can buy in cheap pls
[2017-02-18 19:35:35] y1uy : Papou: <3
[2017-02-18 19:36:04] thxforyourbtc! : ^^^
[2017-02-18 19:38:30] Tetsuo : Fundaments of BTC are crumbling. Chinese miners might get shutdown. Network loses it´s power. Still no resolution for that goddamn block limit after 2 years. What would you tell any other Project that can´t fix their goddamn Problem after such a Long time?
[2017-02-18 19:39:02] Tetsuo : BTC - Destined to fail
[2017-02-18 19:39:16] Tetsuo : let the smart projects takeover
[2017-02-18 19:40:16] y1uy : Tetsuo: they might get shutdown? dude what are u babbling on about?
[2017-02-18 19:40:37] Tetsuo : y1uy: dude, , y wouldn´t they? if the pboc says so, they will
[2017-02-18 19:40:50] Tetsuo : if they helped Money laundering with it
[2017-02-18 19:40:56] y1uy : Tetsuo: WHAT IS THE POINT?
[2017-02-18 19:41:05] y1uy : Tetsuo: that would be so stupid of them
[2017-02-18 19:41:06] Papou : pos is the future
[2017-02-18 19:41:10] Papou : pow was just the initial phase
[2017-02-18 19:41:17] Tetsuo : Papou: +1
[2017-02-18 19:41:22] Papou : pos is what will properly secure a network fairly
[2017-02-18 19:41:28] y1uy : sorry but you guys need to improve your troll game
[2017-02-18 19:41:33] y1uy : thats just weak
[2017-02-18 19:41:45] Papou : no man because the future is blockchain
[2017-02-18 19:41:47] Papou : not bitcoin
[2017-02-18 19:42:01] Papou : bitcoin has bad distro, fundemental issues and centralized mining control
[2017-02-18 19:42:22] thxforyourbtc! : bitcoin is the only true blockchain
[2017-02-18 19:42:29] Tetsuo : plz bulltards
[2017-02-18 19:42:31] thxforyourbtc! : pos lmao
[2017-02-18 19:42:32] Papou : and 1/20 of all assets are held by an anonymous stranger
[2017-02-18 19:42:49] Papou : who is on the top of the hitlist lol
[2017-02-18 19:42:55] y1uy : Papou: 1. no other blockchain will be more trusted than bitcoin. 2. bitcoin will keep on being bitcoin no matter what the chinese want to do
[2017-02-18 19:43:11] Papou : why y1uy
[2017-02-18 19:43:12] Papou : explain why
[2017-02-18 19:43:28] Papou : its like saying your first girlfriend will always be the most trusted
[2017-02-18 19:43:32] Papou : makes no sense
[2017-02-18 19:43:41] Tetsuo : bulltard logic
[2017-02-18 19:43:51] rapidtrades : this thing just never drops @Tetsuo
[2017-02-18 19:44:01] rapidtrades : im slowly losing my mind bra!
[2017-02-18 19:44:10] thxforyourbtc! : go long dude
[2017-02-18 19:44:15] thxforyourbtc! : its going over 1100 today
[2017-02-18 19:44:17] rapidtrades : all these f*cking newbs can't be right!
[2017-02-18 19:44:19] rapidtrades : NO
[2017-02-18 19:44:22] rapidtrades : NEVER
[2017-02-18 19:44:29] rapidtrades : f*ck u all
[2017-02-18 19:46:13] Tetsuo : everything will be alright
[2017-02-18 19:46:46] y1uy : Papou: so you think ethereum is more trusted right?
[2017-02-18 19:46:51] y1uy : Papou: from what im picking up
[2017-02-18 19:46:57] Tetsuo : they are blinded by greed and running towards a cliff
[2017-02-18 19:47:08] y1uy : Papou: ethereum cant be more trusted than bitcoin
[2017-02-18 19:47:14] y1uy : name me a blockchain more trusted than bitcoin
[2017-02-18 19:47:32] Tetsuo : in 1 year there will be one, believe me
[2017-02-18 19:47:49] Tetsuo : or not
[2017-02-18 19:47:51] y1uy : Tetsuo: then stfu
[2017-02-18 19:47:56] y1uy : you're talking BS
[2017-02-18 19:48:01] Tetsuo : y1uy: calm down, no Need to Insult bulltard
[2017-02-18 19:48:35] y1uy : Tetsuo: im just pointing your cognitive dissonance
[2017-02-18 19:49:14] Tetsuo : Bitcoin will wipe out all your dreams of being rich again, and you will be buying and bagholding all the way down. The Thing is, this time it might not revover
[2017-02-18 19:49:58] Ahhere : Tetsuo: do you find FUD works?
[2017-02-18 19:50:23] Ahhere : I mean did you ever manage to start a dump?
[2017-02-18 19:50:26] Tetsuo : i don´t know bullfudding seemed to work in the last weeks, there was plenty of it in here
[2017-02-18 19:50:27] rapidtrades : Tetsuo speaks reason to fools
[2017-02-18 19:50:48] Ahhere : But do you think anyone cares what we say in here? or it has any effect?
[2017-02-18 19:51:02] rapidtrades : hope not :)
[2017-02-18 19:51:05] Tetsuo : lol
[2017-02-18 19:51:28] Ahhere : rapidtrades: http://www.full-stop.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/never-argue-with-stupid-people-mark-twain.jpg
[2017-02-18 19:52:06] y1uy : we might bounce here
[2017-02-18 19:52:20] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: Im a bear again
[2017-02-18 19:54:43] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: you can laugh at my chart but this is why https://www.coinigy.com/s/i/58a8a65e/
[2017-02-18 19:54:49] BTCDJS : Its time...
[2017-02-18 19:55:37] BTCDJS : y1uy: Dont be silly
[2017-02-18 19:55:44] BTCDJS : we might but we wont
[2017-02-18 19:56:01] y1uy : BTCDJS: we will know soon i guess
[2017-02-18 19:56:11] y1uy : BTCDJS: you want to bet?
[2017-02-18 19:56:20] BTCDJS : 100btc
[2017-02-18 19:56:37] BTCDJS : anything less and Im not interested
[2017-02-18 19:56:41] y1uy : sounds good
[2017-02-18 19:57:01] y1uy : send me .01 from your 100btc address and we will do it
[2017-02-18 19:57:02] y1uy : ;)
[2017-02-18 19:57:24] rapidtrades : 0.03 seems rly small...we had 0.5% premium for hrs
[2017-02-18 19:57:44] BTCDJS : K you can bet 100btc with someone else cause ive never had so much money in my lide
[2017-02-18 19:57:48] BTCDJS : life
[2017-02-18 19:59:04] y1uy : BTCDJS: knew it
[2017-02-18 19:59:08] BTCDJS : lol
[2017-02-18 19:59:15] y1uy : not like i have it either
[2017-02-18 19:59:18] y1uy : but anyway
[2017-02-18 19:59:25] y1uy : we could have a correction
[2017-02-18 19:59:28] y1uy : dont think we will now tho
[2017-02-18 19:59:32] jolin : BTCDJS: so u say 900 is coming as per chart?
[2017-02-18 19:59:48] y1uy : jolin: no, we're going to $230
[2017-02-18 19:59:53] BTCDJS : Im saying its more than likely
[2017-02-18 20:00:25] BTCDJS : if we do hit there or 1000 it will be a temporary bounce
[2017-02-18 20:00:49] BTCDJS : im not nostrodamus but its more than likely
[2017-02-18 20:00:59] BTCDJS : we are in EUPHORIA
[2017-02-18 20:01:03] jolin : BTCDJS: ok txs
[2017-02-18 20:01:07] BTCDJS : dont fall for it
[2017-02-18 20:03:20] amaru : looks like we gonna have one more chance to break 70
[2017-02-18 20:03:39] amaru : /sentiment
[2017-02-18 20:03:42] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 30.38/69.62 Daily: 46.9/53.1 Weekly: 45.93/54.07 Monthly: 47.7/52.3
[2017-02-18 20:04:10] BTCDJS : amaru: we may break 70 and go to 80-90 but i wouldnt trust it
[2017-02-18 20:04:22] BTCDJS : unless we break ath
[2017-02-18 20:04:49] amaru : BTCDJS: that would be nice short level
[2017-02-18 20:05:01] BTCDJS : dont short
[2017-02-18 20:05:13] BTCDJS : not unless we break trend
[2017-02-18 20:05:32] BTCDJS : trend is your friend till the end when it bends
[2017-02-18 20:06:08] amaru : BTCDJS: yeah but just a lil short wont hurt ya
[2017-02-18 20:06:13] amaru : as long as u keep it little hehe
[2017-02-18 20:06:31] amaru : could get lucky also
[2017-02-18 20:06:43] amaru : but not risking much
[2017-02-18 20:06:54] BTCDJS : fair do's
[2017-02-18 20:07:31] amaru : wht would be a trend break... back to 1k?
[2017-02-18 20:08:10] BTCDJS : amaru: ETF rejection
[2017-02-18 20:08:15] BTCDJS : maybe
[2017-02-18 20:08:48] BTCDJS : depends on psychological sentiment
[2017-02-18 20:08:55] amaru : before that... what would it take?
[2017-02-18 20:09:14] amaru : you re saying it wont break til march 11?
[2017-02-18 20:09:34] BTCDJS : just put a ptchfork on your chart and wait for it to drop through that and maybe a 200 ema
[2017-02-18 20:09:52] BTCDJS : if thats what we are waiting for
[2017-02-18 20:10:11] BTCDJS : sideways till then if thats the case
[2017-02-18 20:10:52] BTCDJS : or slow incline to ATH without breaking it
[2017-02-18 20:11:11] BTCDJS : amaru: Ill show you on a chart 2 secs
[2017-02-18 20:12:13] amaru : BTCDJS: cool!
[2017-02-18 20:19:25] bbggc : how to change and take out the indicators?
[2017-02-18 20:21:10] BTCDJS : amaru: https://www.coinigy.com/s/i/58a8aca3/
[2017-02-18 20:22:35] Sultan Pepper : BTCDJS: how do you derive the "pitchfork" and support values?
[2017-02-18 20:22:50] amaru : BTCDJS: thank you! so uptrend doestn break until below 900s
[2017-02-18 20:23:44] BTCDJS : Sultan Pepper: wat?
[2017-02-18 20:23:54] rapidtrades : lot of ppl are wathicng that 900 level
[2017-02-18 20:24:01] Sultan Pepper : BTCDJS: where do you get those lines from?
[2017-02-18 20:24:14] rapidtrades : we're gonna crash hard if that goes
[2017-02-18 20:24:23] Sultan Pepper : BTCDJS: i'd like to get better at charting
[2017-02-18 20:25:02] BTCDJS : Sultan Pepper: those are areas where price ranged for a while and if price breaks above those ranges become support.
[2017-02-18 20:25:25] BTCDJS : so on the way down they become support
[2017-02-18 20:25:54] BTCDJS : if price moved the opposite way they would become resistance
[2017-02-18 20:26:15] Sultan Pepper : BTCDJS: thanks, how would i go about making that kind of chart on my own?
[2017-02-18 20:26:20] rapidtrades : so if we break 900 it will be quick fall to low 800s
[2017-02-18 20:26:31] BTCDJS : ^^correct
[2017-02-18 20:26:52] BTCDJS : Pay attention to Rapid and sleger
[2017-02-18 20:27:03] rapidtrades : then maybe slow fall to high 5XX
[2017-02-18 20:27:11] rapidtrades : :)
[2017-02-18 20:27:12] BTCDJS : less likely
[2017-02-18 20:27:15] BTCDJS : lol
[2017-02-18 20:27:29] rapidtrades : i estimate the 'fair value' at below 800
[2017-02-18 20:27:40] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: moon kids remember
[2017-02-18 20:27:59] sleger : rapidtrades: and as soon as your bids at 800 are filled, you estimate the fair value back to 1200 ?
[2017-02-18 20:28:29] BTCDJS : Sultan Pepper: subscribe to this channel...
[2017-02-18 20:29:35] charts : Hi, have a question, how to remove the indicators from the bottom of the graphs?
[2017-02-18 20:29:37] rapidtrades : sleger: no cos then we'll likely be in downtrend, so i'll stay short
[2017-02-18 20:29:55] BTCDJS : Sultan Pepper:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC587BAG9cLTYtJ7Q4CqcOnw
[2017-02-18 20:29:56] rapidtrades : oh fair value...