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[2017-02-18 11:15:35] BTCDJS : jonny: The internet
[2017-02-18 11:15:36] jonny : /sentiment10y
[2017-02-18 11:15:45] jonny : doesnt work for me
[2017-02-18 11:16:16] BTCDJS : jonny: "/sentiment" is taken from a BFX api
[2017-02-18 11:17:47] bingbongfly : hey ooo
[2017-02-18 11:17:59] bingbongfly : was that a liq on swap?
[2017-02-18 11:18:05] bingbongfly : All the way down to 1026!
[2017-02-18 11:18:06] bingbongfly : crazy
[2017-02-18 11:18:12] jonny : BTCDJS: bitmex knows how to keep us attracted
[2017-02-18 11:18:13] veryevilone : how is that even possible
[2017-02-18 11:18:18] bingbongfly : You should always have buy orders down low on this site I guess
[2017-02-18 11:18:21] bingbongfly : it's low liq
[2017-02-18 11:18:22] veryevilone : disappointing
[2017-02-18 11:19:17] RoftheN : Too bad it didn't happen with futures
[2017-02-18 11:19:19] BTCDJS : bingbongfly: someone probably market sold a large quantity
[2017-02-18 11:19:36] bingbongfly : someone wanted in on the funding haha
[2017-02-18 11:19:42] bingbongfly : BTCDJS: yea
[2017-02-18 11:20:04] bingbongfly : Probably bunch of buy orders pulled too
[2017-02-18 11:20:10] bingbongfly : for it to go so low
[2017-02-18 11:20:28] jseonline : Yep, definitely worth keeping the order book filled pretty heavily on this site... I just had a buy order for 20000 @ 1023.84 that got hit there.... /happy
[2017-02-18 11:20:35] veryevilone : does that happen often on here?
[2017-02-18 11:20:38] bingbongfly : haha nice! Gratz
[2017-02-18 11:20:46] BTCDJS : jseonline: nice
[2017-02-18 11:20:48] bingbongfly : veryevilone: Not every day, but I've seen it a few times now
[2017-02-18 11:20:58] veryevilone : so disappointing
[2017-02-18 11:21:40] jonny : veryevilone: why
[2017-02-18 11:22:39] bg5 : I hit buy orders down to 1026 got lucky am now long while the book fills the gap, will start shorting at around 55
[2017-02-18 11:22:55] bingbongfly : bg5: congratz man, good catch :)
[2017-02-18 11:23:07] veryevilone : are you guys for real?
[2017-02-18 11:23:17] bingbongfly : I'm just happy I got out of my overleveraged long
[2017-02-18 11:23:21] veryevilone : acting like this was going to happen
[2017-02-18 11:23:47] BTCDJS : veryevilone: copy and paste?
[2017-02-18 11:23:50] bg5 : veryevilone: ??
[2017-02-18 11:23:53] jonny : bingbongfly: this all was you?
[2017-02-18 11:24:01] bingbongfly : jonny: nope
[2017-02-18 11:24:22] bingbongfly : veryevilone: zoom out on the 1 hour and look at the wicks
[2017-02-18 11:24:36] bingbongfly : happens pretty often since people here have high leverage
[2017-02-18 11:24:43] bingbongfly : catching knifes can be very profitable
[2017-02-18 11:25:23] BTCDJS : veryevilone: nobody knew this was going to happen. But it has happened many times on many different exchanges
[2017-02-18 11:26:33] BTCDJS : so if you place bids lower they could get hit just like that. Happens unexpectedly though. You could place bids lower for months and have it not happen
[2017-02-18 11:26:57] jonny : BTCDJS: shouldnt when liqudations dont happen based on last price but index
[2017-02-18 11:27:17] jseonline : I still fundamentally fail to see why someone decided to place an order like that. I mean, is there any explanation for why someone would do that instead of spending just a few minutes nibbling away at the edge other than just throwing money away?
[2017-02-18 11:27:37] BTCDJS : jonny: yes it should
[2017-02-18 11:27:42] bg5 : also, when price drops fast it is very likely to stay dropping, catching knifes can be dangerous
[2017-02-18 11:27:46] BTCDJS : has nothing to do with LIQS
[2017-02-18 11:27:59] jseonline : I could understand if the price was moving fast, but for one of those to come out of nowhere when the price is fairly steady makes no sense to me
[2017-02-18 11:28:11] BarefootFlash : It could be someone shorting to get paid the funding rate, yeah?
[2017-02-18 11:28:38] jonny : BTCDJS: it does elsewhere, probtcc has silly spikes /manipulateable because they liquidate based on last price
[2017-02-18 11:28:41] jseonline : Ah, good point there - I hadn't throught of that. Still can't see that being a profitable decision exactly....
[2017-02-18 11:28:48] veritas : this is going to 1040 before it goes to 1080
[2017-02-18 11:28:49] bg5 : with 100x availiable it could be as simple as someone putting in an extra zero, and then hitting other peoples stops
[2017-02-18 11:29:24] jonny : they may clicked close market by mistake. else . otherwise fear could be compensated by increasing leverage, limiting risk, causing this is not rational at all
[2017-02-18 11:30:01] BTCDJS : jonny: but we are buying and selling contracts to each other. If I market dump a large amount lower bids will get filled
[2017-02-18 11:30:43] BTCDJS : jonny: Noobs with deep pockets are irrational and can do shit out of fear
[2017-02-18 11:30:59] BTCDJS : There are ALOT of noobs here
[2017-02-18 11:31:14] jonny : yes but funding is ~$1 liquidation costs ~$5, makes no sense to lose more when you think it will crash
[2017-02-18 11:31:39] BTCDJS : Noobs being operative word
[2017-02-18 11:31:46] jonny : except maybe someone who has a 1000bitcoin position and liquidation costs at 5% $50
[2017-02-18 11:31:47] jonny : :D
[2017-02-18 11:32:18] l3f : "Bitmex most liquid BTCUSD exchange"
[2017-02-18 11:32:36] jonny : l3f: very
[2017-02-18 11:32:59] jolin : l3f: ssuperb liquid
[2017-02-18 11:33:07] BTCDJS : there are only 880 users. It was probably meant sarcastically
[2017-02-18 11:33:29] BitFan : perhaps @sleger closed his long
[2017-02-18 11:33:35] jolin : u can sell 1 btc for say 1025 with no problem
[2017-02-18 11:33:57] jonny : no you cant
[2017-02-18 11:34:03] jolin : and then buy bask at 1125 with no problem too
[2017-02-18 11:34:31] jolin : jonny: hay, just put you aat 1025
[2017-02-18 11:34:50] jolin : NOW
[2017-02-18 11:35:00] jolin : we will take it...lol
[2017-02-18 11:35:12] jolin : nai nai
[2017-02-18 11:35:33] l3f : ~500k contracts were just closed
[2017-02-18 11:35:36] veritas : l3f: you bullish or bearish right now? is there a retracement coming?
[2017-02-18 11:35:46] 10 : Finally sold my shorts at 1031 and $1 from liquidation
[2017-02-18 11:36:12] l3f : veritas: just x1 long btc
[2017-02-18 11:36:13] BTCDJS : 10: lucky number ten
[2017-02-18 11:36:18] l3f : expecting dips soon
[2017-02-18 11:36:22] l3f : too many big players closing out
[2017-02-18 11:36:27] l3f : I've been watching open interest
[2017-02-18 11:37:09] veritas : l3f: ty... ive been on here a while - and you're the only HONEST person . appreciated.
[2017-02-18 11:37:23] 10 : Still trying t 6am sitting in a cabin out in the woods haha
[2017-02-18 11:37:41] 10 : *trading
[2017-02-18 11:37:48] l3f : I wish I was always right though :)
[2017-02-18 11:37:51] l3f : veritas: haha
[2017-02-18 11:37:54] Dynamix : Loool that dump got me filled fuck yhh
[2017-02-18 11:38:04] Dynamix : 1037
[2017-02-18 11:38:08] veritas : l3f: me too +1
[2017-02-18 11:38:38] Dynamix : Awesomee
[2017-02-18 11:38:53] 10 : it was a great to wake up to
[2017-02-18 11:39:26] Dynamix : Indeed
[2017-02-18 11:39:31] Dynamix : i lost too much
[2017-02-18 11:39:36] Dynamix : lol
[2017-02-18 11:39:57] CutTheLosses : 10: are you living in the wood?
[2017-02-18 11:40:25] CutTheLosses : trading in the woods sounds funny to me
[2017-02-18 11:40:54] 10 : oh not at all taking a break from sitting in my office starring at 10 screens all day
[2017-02-18 11:40:58] BTCDJS : CutTheLosses: He/she is living the life
[2017-02-18 11:41:27] CutTheLosses : 10: pro trader? or computer programming? rocket scientist?
[2017-02-18 11:41:37] 10 : it's not bad just trading on my phone haha
[2017-02-18 11:41:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XRP7D`: sell 255503 @ 0.00000532
[2017-02-18 11:41:54] 10 : algorithmic trading
[2017-02-18 11:42:14] BTCDJS : 10: Dude please tell me where I can learn that?
[2017-02-18 11:42:23] BTCDJS : dudette
[2017-02-18 11:42:27] Ahhere : Liquidity here is so
[2017-02-18 11:42:45] BTCDJS : amazing?
[2017-02-18 11:42:52] BTCDJS : terrible?
[2017-02-18 11:42:56] BTCDJS : wet?
[2017-02-18 11:43:05] BarefootFlash : 10: That does sound interesting
[2017-02-18 11:43:07] 10 : BTCDJS: add me on LinkedIn: Justus Harmer
[2017-02-18 11:43:24] Dynamix : Upp we gooo
[2017-02-18 11:43:33] Dynamix : 1060 and im out lol
[2017-02-18 11:44:11] BTCDJS : 10: thanks :)
[2017-02-18 11:44:56] 10 : BTCDJS: only downside, I have to wade through snow and go grab a phone charger
[2017-02-18 11:46:39] CutTheLosses : 10: do you have a magic trick for bitcoin and winning money?
[2017-02-18 11:46:43] kogroken : wtf?
[2017-02-18 11:46:52] CutTheLosses : expected HODLIN
[2017-02-18 11:47:20] 10 : CutTheLosses: you could satchel that haha. Iceberg been trading derivatives for 8 years
[2017-02-18 11:47:21] kogroken : This is why this place is the real woodchipper - you'll always get stopped out way below average price by spikes in the illiquid market
[2017-02-18 11:47:28] 10 : *say
[2017-02-18 11:48:33] CutTheLosses : 10: so what's your wise advice. what's the key? i need to know!
[2017-02-18 11:48:57] CutTheLosses : maybe cutting the losses?
[2017-02-18 11:49:20] 10 : CutTheLosses: I'll be right back, wading through snow
[2017-02-18 11:49:32] CutTheLosses : okay
[2017-02-18 11:49:53] CutTheLosses : be safe
[2017-02-18 11:50:10] CutTheLosses : grizzly in the mountains etc
[2017-02-18 11:51:26] Sinterklaas : 1060 usd is the 1000 euro level
[2017-02-18 11:51:43] Sinterklaas : so maybe some resistance there
[2017-02-18 11:55:59] Ahhere : Liquidity is so shit here is what I menat
[2017-02-18 11:56:01] Ahhere : to say
[2017-02-18 11:56:10] Ahhere : *meant
[2017-02-18 11:56:23] kogroken : Thinking of going back to failfinex
[2017-02-18 11:56:34] bg5 : good news, I bought GNT at crowd sale. bad news I only bought $100 worth
[2017-02-18 11:57:14] Ahhere : i'm up loads but liquidity keeps fucking me taking chunks out of my profits. @kogroken couldnt do 3x again
[2017-02-18 11:57:17] 10 : CutTheLosses: just got back
[2017-02-18 11:57:31] Dynamix : /wall
[2017-02-18 11:57:32] trollbot : BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1061.59 => [1202 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1091.65 Bids: 1031.00 => [776 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1061.03
[2017-02-18 11:57:32] trollbot : BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1064.7 => [2487 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1094.7 Bids: 1034.5 => [1334 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1064.5
[2017-02-18 11:57:32] Dynamix : /price
[2017-02-18 11:57:33] trollbot : Bitstamp: 1062.00 (0.08%)
[2017-02-18 11:57:33] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1064.5 (0.16%)
[2017-02-18 11:57:33] trollbot : itBit: 1069.91 (-0.19%)
[2017-02-18 11:57:33] trollbot : GDAX: 1068.49 (0.14%)
[2017-02-18 11:57:34] trollbot : Kraken: 1063.94 (-0.11%)
[2017-02-18 11:57:34] trollbot : OKCoin: 1048.82 (-0.03%)
[2017-02-18 11:57:45] BTCDJS : 10: lifeform capital?
[2017-02-18 11:57:59] 10 : BTCDJS: that is I
[2017-02-18 11:58:07] kogroken : Ahhere: Well, I'd trade BTC-e because of it's nice smooth price movement, but no leverage there T_T
[2017-02-18 11:58:12] Dynamix : we going upp :)
[2017-02-18 11:58:36] Ahhere : Hey whales .. how big do you do max position size? Excluding outliers
[2017-02-18 11:59:16] BTCDJS : 10: I dodnt have linkedin just had to create one
[2017-02-18 11:59:22] BTCDJS : didnt*
[2017-02-18 11:59:46] BarefootFlash : 10: Hope it's cool. I just added you
[2017-02-18 11:59:48] 10 : BTCDJS: it's helpful, I've found
[2017-02-18 12:00:01] 10 : BarefootFlash: yea alll good
[2017-02-18 12:03:37] BarefootFlash : 10: Sweet deal. Compared to the OGs here, I'm a noob, but really interested in learning more
[2017-02-18 12:03:40] Dynamix : Waiting for another dip
[2017-02-18 12:03:47] Dynamix : we are going back to 1020's ;)
[2017-02-18 12:03:59] Dynamix : Thats a signal right there on the 1 min
[2017-02-18 12:04:32] 10 : BarefootFlash: once you get the hang of it, it's a lot of fun
[2017-02-18 12:05:05] BarefootFlash : 10: It's already fun. Just wish I knew more so I wasn't so nervous at times >.<
[2017-02-18 12:06:56] 10 : BarefootFlash: I would say place small trades close out when you are up $0.50 or so and compound your money
[2017-02-18 12:07:45] BarefootFlash : That's what I was doing before the big spike a day or two ago. I was doing well with the horizontal market, but got stuck in with a low short
[2017-02-18 12:08:15] BarefootFlash : Now just trying to minimize losses.
[2017-02-18 12:08:37] 10 : did you get liquidated?
[2017-02-18 12:08:44] BarefootFlash : Nope, but close
[2017-02-18 12:08:59] CutTheLosses : 10: so what's your wise advice. what's the key? i need to know!
[2017-02-18 12:09:26] 10 : I would say lots of data
[2017-02-18 12:09:31] BarefootFlash : That 190k dump saved me
[2017-02-18 12:09:41] 10 : i have a team we trade 24/7
[2017-02-18 12:09:53] CutTheLosses : jesus. and robots?
[2017-02-18 12:09:55] BTCDJS : 10: Whats your opinion about ETF refusal? Will price shoot straight past 880-910 support?
[2017-02-18 12:09:59] BarefootFlash : Dang, that sounds fun
[2017-02-18 12:10:38] 10 : BTCDJS: I haven't looked into the ETF, I'll take a look right now
[2017-02-18 12:10:47] 10 : BarefootFlash: yea it sure is
[2017-02-18 12:12:35] 10 : BTCDJS: I'm not seeing a lot of volume on the ETF
[2017-02-18 12:13:53] BTCDJS : 10:https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/investment-analyst-pegs-bitcoin-price-to-hit-3678-if-sec-approves-etf/
[2017-02-18 12:14:08] Noobz : woah did it drop into the 20s
[2017-02-18 12:14:25] 10 : CutTheLosses: we use the bots to our advantage
[2017-02-18 12:14:28] BTCDJS : 10:https://twitter.com/CollinCrypto/status/832603012086558721
[2017-02-18 12:15:11] CutTheLosses : 10: tell me your top 3 indicators?
[2017-02-18 12:15:14] CutTheLosses : for bitcoin
[2017-02-18 12:15:19] BTCDJS : 10:http://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2017/02/07/with-deadline-looming-will-the-sec-approve-a-bitcoin-etf/#1f75c08c3d84
[2017-02-18 12:17:26] 10 : CutTheLosses: we use some advanced algorithms for short term. Long term I look at trend lines on the top 3 Bitcoin exchanges. Also sentiment data is very helpful
[2017-02-18 12:18:06] CutTheLosses : thanks
[2017-02-18 12:18:11] 10 : BTCDJS: wow if that ETF is approved there will be a lot more volatility
[2017-02-18 12:18:45] BTCDJS : 10: yes but if its denied? Bear market? low 600s?
[2017-02-18 12:19:00] BTCDJS : 10: how long you been trading bitcoin?
[2017-02-18 12:20:22] 10 : BTCDJS: I've been trading Bitcoin since mid 2013. In 2014 I created my own futures contracts for select clients.
[2017-02-18 12:21:22] BarefootFlash : Legit
[2017-02-18 12:21:49] BTCDJS : cool
[2017-02-18 12:21:51] 10 : BTCDJS: I don't think it will drop that low, lots of faith in the market from china
[2017-02-18 12:22:29] BTCDJS : 10: Dont you think china is a mess right now?
[2017-02-18 12:23:41] 10 : BTCDJS: they provide a lot of support for the market. The worse the fiat currency is the better it is for Bitcoin
[2017-02-18 12:24:12] 10 : people are loosing faith in fiat currencies moving to Bitcoin
[2017-02-18 12:24:14] BTCDJS : interesting
[2017-02-18 12:25:23] BTCDJS : 10: what do you think about scaling?
[2017-02-18 12:25:39] rullwull : Trade bitcoin with leverage is incredibly risky, arbs, hedge and funding fee here, trades on spot without leverage
[2017-02-18 12:26:14] rullwull : This is the only option for big stakes like mine
[2017-02-18 12:28:41] y1uy : someone just did a massive marketsell on perp?
[2017-02-18 12:29:18] Dynamix : y1uy: Yuppp, glad my positions went through
[2017-02-18 12:30:16] y1uy : what a plebwtf
[2017-02-18 12:30:39] Dynamix : Haha, its a signal man, we are going to have a correction REAL soon
[2017-02-18 12:31:05] Dynamix : 1040 on bfx soon
[2017-02-18 12:32:11] 10 : BTCDJS: I think The cryptocurrency market as a whole will replace traditional payment methods
[2017-02-18 12:32:24] y1uy : looks like were bouncing of suport here but lets see
[2017-02-18 12:37:03] BTCDJS : 10: I agree with you mate. I was just wanting some thoughts on the fundamentals. trading with leverage as well as holding. Near term thoughts based on YES or NO to ETF and other factors like the PBoC, Segwit etc etc was what I was trying to pick your brains about.
[2017-02-18 12:37:32] BTCDJS : I'm trading with leverage...*
[2017-02-18 12:38:11] BTCDJS : But dont worry about that now mate. Just enjoy your time off at the cabin
[2017-02-18 12:38:16] Dynamix : /wall
[2017-02-18 12:38:17] trollbot : BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1061.88 => [1366 Ƀ] (13.64%) <= 1092.50 Bids: 1030.60 => [925 Ƀ] (19.2%) <= 1060.64
[2017-02-18 12:38:17] trollbot : BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1063.9 => [2462 Ƀ] (-1.01%) <= 1094.0 Bids: 1033.5 => [1365 Ƀ] (2.32%) <= 1063.6
[2017-02-18 12:39:45] 10 : BTCDJS: il shoot you a message on LinkedIn when I get back to my office
[2017-02-18 12:40:39] BTCDJS : 10: No problem bud. its way too heavy for a Saturday/chill day right now :)
[2017-02-18 12:41:53] veritas : this is going to 1040 before it goes to 1080
[2017-02-18 12:41:57] 10 : BTCDJS: plus burned is awful through the web browser on my phone
[2017-02-18 12:42:19] 10 : *bitmex
[2017-02-18 12:42:23] BarefootFlash : 10: I can imagine
[2017-02-18 12:42:33] Dynamix : Whos going short now ?
[2017-02-18 12:42:44] Dynamix : veritas: Indeed haha, maybe lower, 1020's
[2017-02-18 12:42:52] BTCDJS : Dynamix: you want me to chop off your legs?
[2017-02-18 12:43:11] veritas : Dynamix: +1
[2017-02-18 12:43:15] BTCDJS : cos I can make you short brah
[2017-02-18 12:43:27] y1uy : china is bullish af
[2017-02-18 12:43:35] Dynamix : BTCDJS: I'll chop of your head, and make sure your body is not moving like a beheaded chicken
[2017-02-18 12:43:40] veritas : hi
[2017-02-18 12:43:50] veritas : wanna be frends
[2017-02-18 12:44:01] BTCDJS : Dynamix: That was bad
[2017-02-18 12:44:03] Dynamix : veritas: Yes Amigo :D
[2017-02-18 12:44:23] BTCDJS : Youre not very good at trash talk
[2017-02-18 12:44:28] BTCDJS : Oh well
[2017-02-18 12:44:39] BTCDJS : Guess your just a drip
[2017-02-18 12:44:39] y1uy : 1.2k 1047 buy wall on okc
[2017-02-18 12:44:39] Dynamix : BTCDJS: Well, all your mouth is trash so your the expert
[2017-02-18 12:44:57] Dynamix : I dont wanna be an expert in chatting shit like you , your breath probably stinks more than a public toilet .
[2017-02-18 12:45:19] BTCDJS : Dynamix: *smells breath*
[2017-02-18 12:45:29] BTCDJS : doesnt smell like anything
[2017-02-18 12:45:37] Dynamix : Shiiit man. close it off
[2017-02-18 12:45:40] BTCDJS : just feels warm and moist
[2017-02-18 12:45:47] Dynamix : I nearly passed out
[2017-02-18 12:45:49] BTCDJS : like your mom
[2017-02-18 12:45:52] 10 : Haha ?
[2017-02-18 12:46:02] Dynamix : Haha Mom jokes are overrated nowadays
[2017-02-18 12:46:07] Dynamix : come back with something else m8
[2017-02-18 12:46:14] BarefootFlash : /joke
[2017-02-18 12:46:16] trollbot : "Dad, look! I'm a 3D printer!" "Chris, close the god damn door if you're taking a shit"
[2017-02-18 12:46:27] Dynamix : /joke
[2017-02-18 12:46:30] trollbot : Son: "Dad, Am I adopted"? Dad: "Not yet. We still haven't found anyone who wants you."
[2017-02-18 12:46:49] Dynamix : Lololol, BTCDJS life story right now haha
[2017-02-18 12:46:50] BTCDJS : /ban Dynamix
[2017-02-18 12:46:59] Dynamix : /fuck BTCDJS
[2017-02-18 12:47:07] BTCDJS : Dynamix: try it now
[2017-02-18 12:47:13] Dynamix : Mehh
[2017-02-18 12:47:24] Dynamix : How old are you ?
[2017-02-18 12:47:32] BTCDJS : Dynamix: try it
[2017-02-18 12:47:35] BTCDJS : /wall
[2017-02-18 12:47:35] trollbot : BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1061.00 => [1375 Ƀ] (0.66%) <= 1091.00 Bids: 1030.96 => [912 Ƀ] (-1.41%) <= 1060.96
[2017-02-18 12:47:35] trollbot : BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1064.7 => [2459 Ƀ] (-0.12%) <= 1094.7 Bids: 1034.5 => [1320 Ƀ] (-3.3%) <= 1064.5
[2017-02-18 12:48:08] BarefootFlash : /sentiment
[2017-02-18 12:48:10] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 45.24/54.76 Daily: 42.44/57.56 Weekly: 46.45/53.55 Monthly: 47.64/52.36
[2017-02-18 12:49:28] 10 : Well I definitely need to make some coffee ☕️ get back to it
[2017-02-18 12:49:45] BTCDJS : I need to brush my teeth
[2017-02-18 12:49:54] BTCDJS : and have a shower
[2017-02-18 12:52:59] premium_freak : do you guys have any idea why okco1n's futures were so cheap for a while?
[2017-02-18 12:53:32] BTCDJS : I do
[2017-02-18 12:54:11] BTCDJS : Dynamix sold his body the top contract holders to keep it that way so he can go short
[2017-02-18 12:54:20] BTCDJS : then he got LIQed
[2017-02-18 12:57:55] Dynamix : Anyone here playing yu gi oh ? :P
[2017-02-18 12:57:58] Dynamix : Its pretty sick :D
[2017-02-18 12:57:59] rullwull : premium_freak: OKc index consists of Chinese exchanges mostly
[2017-02-18 12:58:11] premium_freak : rullwull: it was way below the index price for a while
[2017-02-18 12:59:00] rullwull : premium_freak: also fears that OKc may shout down or sizing the coins
[2017-02-18 12:59:58] rullwull : premium_freak: I was buy OKc dip as crazy, it was a huge opportunity
[2017-02-18 13:00:22] premium_freak : I too bought a lot.. but the price difference made me suspicious
[2017-02-18 13:00:32] rullwull : also I suppose that top holders were bearish and sold the order book
[2017-02-18 13:01:02] BTCDJS : rullwull: thats it more likely
[2017-02-18 13:02:44] rullwull : When I was buying OKc march I was hedged with fiat on spot, but when I saw 200K OKc march buy order at 990 I covered fiat into coins
[2017-02-18 13:13:39] premium_freak : rullwull: I hope you bought some at <800 too
[2017-02-18 13:15:31] veritas : this is going to 140 before it goes to 1080
[2017-02-18 13:15:45] premium_freak : veritas: suuuuuure
[2017-02-18 13:15:58] veritas : premium_freak: see you at the bottom
[2017-02-18 13:16:04] veritas : catch the knives at 1020
[2017-02-18 13:16:39] veritas : ETA 1-3 hours
[2017-02-18 13:17:22] premium_freak : scary
[2017-02-18 13:18:26] premium_freak : I'll keep holding for now - we keep knocking against 1060, eventually the door will open
[2017-02-18 13:18:28] rullwull : premium_freak: yes around 800 20K contracts
[2017-02-18 13:19:50] premium_freak : 20K contracts? that's like 2 million usd worth?
[2017-02-18 13:23:15] sleger : ^ good at maths
[2017-02-18 13:24:24] premium_freak : is that a joke?
[2017-02-18 13:24:36] BarefootFlash : Here's a /joke
[2017-02-18 13:24:46] Ahhere : sleger: what is your average position size on here if you dont mind?
[2017-02-18 13:24:53] BarefootFlash : /joke
[2017-02-18 13:24:57] trollbot : My ex-girlfriend says she has a stalker. I have to say I'm surprised. In all the time I've spent hanging around her house, hiding in the bushes, watching her come and go...I've never seen any signs of a stalker.
[2017-02-18 13:24:59] sleger : average between dash and bitcoin ?
[2017-02-18 13:25:10] sleger : or average on btc in time ?
[2017-02-18 13:25:37] Ahhere : regarding liquidity I wonder how much one should push position sizes in terms of no of contracts
[2017-02-18 13:25:59] sleger : Ahhere: I've had over 50% of NOI and wasnt an issue
[2017-02-18 13:26:23] Ahhere : Ok thanks
[2017-02-18 13:26:26] sleger : I try to not go over 1kbtc anymore, but even there i havent had issues
[2017-02-18 13:26:38] premium_freak : at bitmex?
[2017-02-18 13:26:46] sleger : yes
[2017-02-18 13:26:49] rullwull : premium_freak: Exactly
[2017-02-18 13:27:06] Ahhere : you mentione d that you dont use stops I guess that is why
[2017-02-18 13:27:12] sleger : at 0kc you can go larger no problem, just dont do 35m$ you will create a long lasting discount
[2017-02-18 13:27:18] BTCDJS : sleger: what could've caused that flash drop on swap?
[2017-02-18 13:27:27] sleger : BTCDJS: flash drop ?
[2017-02-18 13:27:42] Ahhere : lol don't worry I wont be selling 35 million on ok anyway
[2017-02-18 13:28:02] BTCDJS : Price dropped to 1020s then straight back up in a flash
[2017-02-18 13:28:13] sleger : i dont see it on chart
[2017-02-18 13:28:16] sleger : i wasnt around
[2017-02-18 13:28:34] CutTheLosses : charts are buggy as hell
[2017-02-18 13:28:53] BTCDJS : 15mins
[2017-02-18 13:28:59] BarefootFlash : About an hour before the last funding
[2017-02-18 13:29:04] CutTheLosses : sometimes i see it, sometimes it desappears
[2017-02-18 13:29:17] BTCDJS : I'm looking st it right now
[2017-02-18 13:29:48] sleger : BarefootFlash: was there any trade at low price ?
[2017-02-18 13:30:02] BTCDJS : People's bids got filled
[2017-02-18 13:30:13] BTCDJS : some got out of shorts
[2017-02-18 13:30:16] Ahhere : Dont know if I caused it, but my trailing stop sold me all the way down to 1020. Cut my profit &L 250k contracts
[2017-02-18 13:30:25] Ahhere : in ha
[2017-02-18 13:30:28] Ahhere : lf
[2017-02-18 13:30:29] herpinator : at 11:06
[2017-02-18 13:30:43] BTCDJS : Weird
[2017-02-18 13:30:46] sleger : 1022.05 3424 yeah ok
[2017-02-18 13:31:05] sleger : i only had that filled, too bad : XBTUSD 1479 1479 0 1046.00
[2017-02-18 13:31:42] sleger : looking at trade history looks like someone sold a lot
[2017-02-18 13:31:49] l3f : sleger: 500k closed
[2017-02-18 13:31:51] sleger : and then maybe stop losses like @Ahhere triggered
[2017-02-18 13:32:26] BTCDJS : So fat finger noob
[2017-02-18 13:32:30] Ahhere : sleger: is that why u dont stop loss here?
[2017-02-18 13:32:55] sleger : i recommended they add protection bands to the price, that would have avoided that
[2017-02-18 13:33:20] l3f : But but I thought bitmex was the most liquid BTCUSD exchange
[2017-02-18 13:33:21] BarefootFlash : I'm glad my stop loss didn't trigger. That woulda been not good
[2017-02-18 13:33:46] sleger : i thought stop loss would trigger on mark price though ? mark shouldnt have moved
[2017-02-18 13:34:11] l3f : You can pick mark/last/index on the stop loss
[2017-02-18 13:34:14] sleger : i see it in the chart it's just super tiny thin, hard to see
[2017-02-18 13:34:15] rullwull : l3f: don't compare bitmex with spots, OKc futures are much more liquid
[2017-02-18 13:34:15] l3f : but sleger doesn't use them
[2017-02-18 13:34:16] BarefootFlash : Ah, maybe that's why
[2017-02-18 13:34:29] sleger : people should use mark then to avoid these problems
[2017-02-18 13:34:44] sleger : but those trades shouldnt have been allowed on a product thats marked to mark price and not market
[2017-02-18 13:34:51] l3f : rullwull: okc futures are pretty spooky though
[2017-02-18 13:34:53] sleger : *my opinion*
[2017-02-18 13:34:53] rullwull : however bitmex liquidity is getting much better
[2017-02-18 13:35:34] sleger : yes liquidity is great, but with 100x its easy to do a 500k market order (although you cant have 100x and 500k position)
[2017-02-18 13:35:50] sleger : you can have 100x and 200k position PER account though
[2017-02-18 13:36:12] rullwull : l3f: OKc is only exchange where big players can trade, previously there were cny spots where I did most of my trading activities
[2017-02-18 13:36:13] premium_freak : I doubt many people holding that amount of btc would do something stupid like that
[2017-02-18 13:36:23] premium_freak : 100x is for the small time gamblers
[2017-02-18 13:36:26] sleger : premium_freak: thats the thing you dont need amny btc to do that
[2017-02-18 13:36:35] l3f : rullwull: You only trade okc futures?
[2017-02-18 13:36:42] sleger : 2btc * 100 = 200btc
[2017-02-18 13:36:51] premium_freak : ah, right..
[2017-02-18 13:37:32] rullwull : l3f: no, I used to trade cny spot versus OKc futures and was testing bitmex versus Bitfinex
[2017-02-18 13:37:47] sleger : yeah okc usd spot gave me more margin
[2017-02-18 13:38:01] sleger : can buy cheap coinz
[2017-02-18 13:38:10] l3f : I have 30 btc here and 20 on okc
[2017-02-18 13:38:32] BarefootFlash : Wow
[2017-02-18 13:38:37] l3f : okc is ok I guess
[2017-02-18 13:38:54] l3f : rode the free money 3m train all the way up
[2017-02-18 13:39:02] rullwull : also I have an option to deposit fiat on btce and I simply arb btce with Bitfinex
[2017-02-18 13:39:05] premium_freak : I'm taking my money out of okc.. the latest rumours don't make me feel good
[2017-02-18 13:39:22] elmorte : rullwull: how long does the fiat deposit take?
[2017-02-18 13:39:44] l3f : sleger: what do you think of all the big players closing aroudn this price?
[2017-02-18 13:39:51] l3f : doesn't instil confidence does it?
[2017-02-18 13:39:56] sleger : closing what ?
[2017-02-18 13:40:03] l3f : okc whale closing his positions
[2017-02-18 13:40:10] sleger : they're just doing like me, they're closing their arb
[2017-02-18 13:40:21] sleger : ah the #1 is differerent, he was short anyways
[2017-02-18 13:40:30] rullwull : I have several options from instant (btce codes) to up to 12 hours
[2017-02-18 13:40:36] l3f : sleger: what arb?
[2017-02-18 13:40:47] sleger : buy 0kc quaterlies when 100+ discount
[2017-02-18 13:40:51] l3f : lel
[2017-02-18 13:41:02] sleger : all big players i know did it
[2017-02-18 13:41:23] sleger : I bought 8.5k contracts, didnt want to risk too much collateral there
[2017-02-18 13:41:42] rullwull : sleger: exactly
[2017-02-18 13:42:03] l3f : yeah I got some of that too lol
[2017-02-18 13:42:04] sleger : it wasnt free money, but worth the risk, and it paid off
[2017-02-18 13:42:54] rullwull : Start Xu will take all your coins no matter what))))
[2017-02-18 13:43:07] l3f : sleger: why did you go flat, it looks like somebody wants to pump
[2017-02-18 13:43:31] l3f : some guy with this 2m buy walls on stamp
[2017-02-18 13:43:45] sleger : i dont see it
[2017-02-18 13:44:17] l3f : the 2m buy walls moved from 1000 to 1024 a few days before the real pump
[2017-02-18 13:45:59] Dynamix : /wall
[2017-02-18 13:46:07] Dynamix : Just look at that wall lol
[2017-02-18 13:46:11] Dynamix : /price
[2017-02-18 13:46:18] Dynamix : Wtf ...
[2017-02-18 13:46:21] Dynamix : commands dont work anymore
[2017-02-18 13:46:36] sleger : what wall?
[2017-02-18 13:47:43] l3f : Pretty retarded okc #1 shorted the bottom
[2017-02-18 13:48:18] l3f : unless it was some high level play that I'm too retarded to see
[2017-02-18 13:48:20] rullwull : sleger: maybe he means 2 mln ripples)))
[2017-02-18 13:48:48] l3f : rullwull: I'm talking about a few days before the pump some one was moving stamp around
[2017-02-18 13:48:50] BTC-Noob : whats wrong with btc so much volatility. normally it used to calm down after each rally whats worng with this guy
[2017-02-18 13:49:06] l3f : I'm not crazy I swear
[2017-02-18 13:49:32] rullwull : l3f: I'm kidding, don't take me serious)
[2017-02-18 13:49:52] l3f : rullwull: :)
[2017-02-18 13:49:58] rullwull : BTC-Noob: do u like flat?
[2017-02-18 13:53:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 15150 @ 1059.63
[2017-02-18 13:53:48] Farzad : GO GO
[2017-02-18 13:53:50] Farzad : u can
[2017-02-18 13:53:59] Farzad : MORE MORE
[2017-02-18 13:53:59] Sultan Pepper : BTC-Noob: thanks for the donation!
[2017-02-18 13:54:05] BarefootFlash : Farzad: You're on Mar not perp?
[2017-02-18 13:54:15] Farzad : BarefootFlash: yes, on march
[2017-02-18 13:54:17] BarefootFlash : Sultan Pepper: Haha
[2017-02-18 13:54:24] BarefootFlash : Ahh, ok
[2017-02-18 13:55:31] Farzad : need much more dump ! lol
[2017-02-18 13:56:41] BarefootFlash : Haha, hope you get it
[2017-02-18 13:56:55] Farzad : BarefootFlash: I will :D finally, some day
[2017-02-18 13:57:01] Farzad : I am patient
[2017-02-18 13:59:15] BarefootFlash : Always nice when you can afford to be ;)
[2017-02-18 14:00:42] BarefootFlash : Farzad: Are funding rates the same for mar and perp?
[2017-02-18 14:00:56] BarefootFlash : I'd expect them to be different, but I'm not seeing anything
[2017-02-18 14:01:10] sleger : they're often at 0 for march
[2017-02-18 14:01:21] Farzad : BarefootFlash: there is no funding for march
[2017-02-18 14:01:24] Farzad : Never
[2017-02-18 14:01:33] Farzad : because it is not perpetual
[2017-02-18 14:01:34] Nutella : march is for poors
[2017-02-18 14:01:35] BarefootFlash : Ah, ok. That makes more sense
[2017-02-18 14:02:02] BTC-Noob : rullwull: flat btc with low volatility is good for accumulation and good nights of sleep haha
[2017-02-18 14:02:08] Farzad : they should put interest on perpetual to stick it to index price
[2017-02-18 14:02:23] BTC-Noob : now i cant go to sleep without thinking about waking up rekt
[2017-02-18 14:02:57] Farzad : /wall
[2017-02-18 14:02:58] trollbot : BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1060.00 => [1181 Ƀ] (-14.11%) <= 1090.00 Bids: 1029.00 => [883 Ƀ] (-3.18%) <= 1059.00
[2017-02-18 14:02:58] trollbot : BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1063.1 => [2459 Ƀ] (0%) <= 1093.5 Bids: 1032.9 => [1323 Ƀ] (0.23%) <= 1062.9
[2017-02-18 14:03:20] BarefootFlash : Farzad: What are the percentages there?
[2017-02-18 14:03:32] rapidtrades : BTC-Noob: lol relevant username
[2017-02-18 14:03:48] Farzad : BarefootFlash: the change from last query time
[2017-02-18 14:03:56] BarefootFlash : Ah, kk
[2017-02-18 14:03:58] BarefootFlash : Thanks
[2017-02-18 14:04:01] Farzad : np
[2017-02-18 14:04:15] BarefootFlash : Nice job btw
[2017-02-18 14:04:24] Farzad : Thanks :)
[2017-02-18 14:04:35] BarefootFlash : I hope to one day get to that level :D
[2017-02-18 14:05:04] Farzad : It is not that hard ! you can do it easily if u like coding
[2017-02-18 14:05:23] veritas : 1040 here we come
[2017-02-18 14:05:40] BarefootFlash : I do, but I'm like lvl 1 haha
[2017-02-18 14:05:45] BarefootFlash : Maybe lvl .5
[2017-02-18 14:05:49] Farzad : lol
[2017-02-18 14:05:56] Farzad : I am 1.5 as well :p
[2017-02-18 14:06:16] BarefootFlash : Haha, awesome. Thanks for the confidence boost :D
[2017-02-18 14:06:27] Farzad : yw ;)
[2017-02-18 14:06:45] Sultan Pepper : Whoooooah! Wtf happened to swap a few hours ago?!
[2017-02-18 14:07:00] BarefootFlash : Sultan Pepper: Yeah dude. So awesome ^_^
[2017-02-18 14:07:20] Sultan Pepper : Did you BTFD?
[2017-02-18 14:08:09] BarefootFlash : I got saved a bit from my super low short, filled a buy at 25
[2017-02-18 14:08:31] Sultan Pepper : Nice
[2017-02-18 14:08:58] BarefootFlash : Another one would be nice though
[2017-02-18 14:09:46] Dynamix : BarefootFlash: lolol, nice nice lucky guy haha
[2017-02-18 14:10:01] Dynamix : /wall
[2017-02-18 14:10:30] BarefootFlash : Super lucky. Not all the way out still, but a bit safer if/when we go higher
[2017-02-18 14:10:42] Sultan Pepper : /wall
[2017-02-18 14:10:43] trollbot : BitStamp Wall: Asks: 1055.88 => [1023 Ƀ] (-13.38%) <= 1085.90 Bids: 1023.50 => [874 Ƀ] (-1.02%) <= 1053.60
[2017-02-18 14:10:43] trollbot : BitFinex Wall: Asks: 1061.7 => [2463 Ƀ] (0.16%) <= 1092.0 Bids: 1031.3 => [1314 Ƀ] (-0.68%) <= 1061.4
[2017-02-18 14:10:58] Sultan Pepper : dynamix, you've been banned
[2017-02-18 14:11:10] BarefootFlash : Oh dang, that actually worked!
[2017-02-18 14:11:21] BarefootFlash : Hahaha, dang, sorry dude
[2017-02-18 14:18:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 22100 @ 1061.15
[2017-02-18 14:18:41] Nutella : no more many from swap?
[2017-02-18 14:19:03] Nutella : 0039 is joke
[2017-02-18 14:20:46] amaru : wow what was that dump????
[2017-02-18 14:20:47] BarefootFlash : Alright, trying out march
[2017-02-18 14:21:07] BarefootFlash : amaru: We're not exactly sure
[2017-02-18 14:21:18] BarefootFlash : But it was pretty lucky (for some)
[2017-02-18 14:21:25] amaru : daaaaaammm!!!!
[2017-02-18 14:21:34] BarefootFlash : Yeah...
[2017-02-18 14:21:35] amaru : missed it :(
[2017-02-18 14:21:37] BarefootFlash : Crazy
[2017-02-18 14:21:56] amaru : what do you mean "we're not sure?"
[2017-02-18 14:22:04] BarefootFlash : What caused it
[2017-02-18 14:22:22] amaru : did it happen on all exchanges?
[2017-02-18 14:22:23] BarefootFlash : Looks like a huge market sell. Like 190k
[2017-02-18 14:22:27] BarefootFlash : nope, just here
[2017-02-18 14:22:32] amaru : daaaam
[2017-02-18 14:22:35] amaru : lol
[2017-02-18 14:22:37] amaru : fuck
[2017-02-18 14:22:45] BarefootFlash : You get hurt at all?
[2017-02-18 14:23:14] amaru : BarefootFlash: no.. i removed my bids around that level before going to sleep lol
[2017-02-18 14:23:21] amaru : so stupid
[2017-02-18 14:23:24] BarefootFlash : Oh crap. So just fomo
[2017-02-18 14:23:32] amaru : BarefootFlash: genuine
[2017-02-18 14:23:59] BarefootFlash : Better than some. We saw a few liqs there
[2017-02-18 14:24:19] amaru : BarefootFlash: yeh i bet
[2017-02-18 14:24:41] Nutella : 1k slideeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[2017-02-18 14:25:01] BarefootFlash : Nutella: Haha, I so hope so
[2017-02-18 14:25:12] jolin : fuck u all suckers
[2017-02-18 14:25:20] veritas : this is going to 1040 before it goes to 1080
[2017-02-18 14:25:38] BarefootFlash : veritas: Are you secretly a bot?
[2017-02-18 14:25:39] amaru : "fuck your mother if you want fuck!"
[2017-02-18 14:25:40] BarefootFlash : Haha
[2017-02-18 14:25:48] amaru : - jihan
[2017-02-18 14:25:54] veritas : BarefootFlash: no
[2017-02-18 14:26:05] veritas : just a friendly PSA
[2017-02-18 14:26:08] BarefootFlash : I've seen the same thing like 3 or 4 times from you, heheh
[2017-02-18 14:26:23] BarefootFlash : Honestly, I'm hoping for much closer to 1k ;)
[2017-02-18 14:26:41] BarefootFlash : Not holding my breath though
[2017-02-18 14:26:52] amaru : BarefootFlash: vinny said 1k
[2017-02-18 14:27:00] amaru : i know its all hype but still
[2017-02-18 14:27:07] BarefootFlash : Who's vinny?
[2017-02-18 14:27:07] amaru : just because he said it now it might happen lol
[2017-02-18 14:27:15] aguia7 : What better, trade in bitmex, trade in poloniex, Trading in both ?