This is a mirror of the original BitMEX trollbox archive that used to be online here.
BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
But since it is still limited (neutered to the last few hundred messages) I will keep my FULL mirror alive.

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[2017-02-18 01:34:06] rapidtrades : only Tetsuo and me remain
[2017-02-18 01:34:14] rapidtrades : right? @Tetsuo
[2017-02-18 01:34:36] Ahhere : dont worry hell be dermphing again in 10 mins
[2017-02-18 01:35:14] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: You hate money or what?
[2017-02-18 01:35:26] ThruTheFloor : Why not cut your loses and go long?
[2017-02-18 01:35:29] ThruTheFloor : When in Rome...
[2017-02-18 01:35:36] rapidtrades : NEVER
[2017-02-18 01:35:36] sleger : go visit the pope ?
[2017-02-18 01:35:37] alejandromasari : /wall
[2017-02-18 01:35:37] trollbot : BFX Wall: Asks: 1057.0 => [2600 Ƀ] (-0.15%) <= 1087.0 Bids: 1026.9 => [1548 Ƀ] (-1.21%) <= 1056.9
[2017-02-18 01:35:42] rapidtrades : also f*Ck Rome
[2017-02-18 01:35:52] sleger : alejandromasari: monkey learned new trick
[2017-02-18 01:35:55] ThruTheFloor : sleger: @rapidtrades Racist niggrs
[2017-02-18 01:36:10] sleger : ThruTheFloor: you're the C.E.O.
[2017-02-18 01:36:25] ThruTheFloor : CEO of what?
[2017-02-18 01:36:34] sleger : ThruTheFloor: CEO of C.E.O.s
[2017-02-18 01:36:46] ThruTheFloor : Whats my salary?
[2017-02-18 01:36:48] alejandromasari : sleger: loser.
[2017-02-18 01:37:06] sleger : alejandromasari: canada lets really everyone in these days, sad
[2017-02-18 01:37:12] sleger : go back to the gym
[2017-02-18 01:37:18] ThruTheFloor : alejandromasari: Get out monkey, this chat is for people only
[2017-02-18 01:37:33] JT : need to build a wall at the canadian border too
[2017-02-18 01:37:35] alejandromasari : sleger: loser.
[2017-02-18 01:37:40] JT : wall off california too
[2017-02-18 01:37:54] sleger : JT: bill gates will pay for it ! as long as we install windows
[2017-02-18 01:37:57] ThruTheFloor : JT: Dont worry bro. Our Supreme Leader is on it
[2017-02-18 01:37:59] JT : :D
[2017-02-18 01:38:16] sleger : alejandromasari: please look at your twitter pic, its really .... revealing
[2017-02-18 01:38:25] JT : as long as i can have a job building it
[2017-02-18 01:38:29] alejandromasari : sleger: loser.
[2017-02-18 01:38:43] jphamer1 : im expecting bitcoin to at least go to 2000 on this run.
[2017-02-18 01:38:49] alejandromasari : sleger: mr 4 decimal point
[2017-02-18 01:39:08] sleger : alejandromasari: give us an example of a number with 4 decimal points please
[2017-02-18 01:39:28] sleger : oh right, you cant
[2017-02-18 01:39:52] alejandromasari : sleger: bird-brain doltish jackass
[2017-02-18 01:40:04] sleger : ^ oh oh oh
[2017-02-18 01:40:38] sleger : https://twitter.com/alejandrodinero
[2017-02-18 01:41:03] sleger : look at the handle name
[2017-02-18 01:41:06] sleger : dinero... lol
[2017-02-18 01:41:09] ThruTheFloor : jphamer1: 5k bro, dont accept anything less
[2017-02-18 01:41:13] JT : check the facebook too :D
[2017-02-18 01:41:25] sleger : JT: no more gay porn please
[2017-02-18 01:41:34] alejandromasari : sleger: cuck
[2017-02-18 01:41:42] sleger : is that a word ?
[2017-02-18 01:41:59] sleger : maybe try spell-checking
[2017-02-18 01:42:00] alejandromasari : sleger: bird-brained cuck
[2017-02-18 01:42:04] ThruTheFloor : alejandromasari: Damn you look like a total douchebag bro, and your coaching is probably a scam
[2017-02-18 01:42:28] ThruTheFloor : And you use the word cuck unironically, holy shit
[2017-02-18 01:42:42] ThruTheFloor : This aint 4chan faggt
[2017-02-18 01:42:53] sleger : a lot of people make money by stealing from vulnerable people, thats what he does. The gym helps him looks credible / powerful to convince these poor people
[2017-02-18 01:43:07] JT : "9 years experience"
[2017-02-18 01:43:15] aandy : hottest market for online marketing right now
[2017-02-18 01:43:30] aandy : HOW TO BECOME BITCOIN MILIONAIRE! I WILL TEACH YOU FOR 45 DOLLARS!
[2017-02-18 01:43:33] ThruTheFloor : sleger: Should we like, warn people or something? Or just let nature take its course?
[2017-02-18 01:43:39] alejandromasari : @sleger: mr 4 decimal point acct
[2017-02-18 01:44:01] sleger : some of them just post for few years buy/sell apple, then years later go back , and delete the wrong calls, then they look like geniuses, but they are just gym members
[2017-02-18 01:44:39] sleger : aandy: 45$ ? i'm in ! can I pay with bitcoins ?
[2017-02-18 01:44:59] aandy : lmao
[2017-02-18 01:45:01] BTCDJS : /sentiment
[2017-02-18 01:45:03] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 75.84/24.17 Daily: 41.32/58.68 Weekly: 46.17/53.84 Monthly: 47.74/52.26
[2017-02-18 01:45:05] sleger : alejandromasari: 4 digits mean xxxx btc, you know the kind of people you wish you had as a client
[2017-02-18 01:45:10] BTCDJS : /wall
[2017-02-18 01:45:11] trollbot : BFX Wall: Asks: 1057.3 => [2748 Ƀ] (5.69%) <= 1087.7 Bids: 1027.1 => [1571 Ƀ] (1.49%) <= 1057.2
[2017-02-18 01:45:19] BTCDJS : /price
[2017-02-18 01:45:20] trollbot : Bitstamp: 1056.92 (0.17%)
[2017-02-18 01:45:20] trollbot : itBit: 1057.04 (0.15%)
[2017-02-18 01:45:20] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1057.3 (0.14%)
[2017-02-18 01:45:20] trollbot : GDAX: 1060.62 (0.23%)
[2017-02-18 01:45:20] trollbot : Kraken: 1056.06 (0.44%)
[2017-02-18 01:45:21] trollbot : OKCoin: 1042.08 (0.1%)
[2017-02-18 01:45:23] sumwen : average people? lol
[2017-02-18 01:46:38] rapidtrades : sleger: sup cuck?
[2017-02-18 01:46:50] sleger : rapidtrades: please explain what a cuck is ?
[2017-02-18 01:47:09] rapidtrades : means smone is f*cking ur significant other
[2017-02-18 01:47:14] rapidtrades : and ur ok with that
[2017-02-18 01:47:17] sleger : is it special ed people vocabulary ?
[2017-02-18 01:47:42] rapidtrades : i heard its popular with the trump.sters
[2017-02-18 01:47:48] rapidtrades : god damit bitmex
[2017-02-18 01:47:51] rapidtrades : trumppp
[2017-02-18 01:47:56] rapidtrades : trum.p
[2017-02-18 01:47:57] alejandromasari : sleger: simpleton with a simple vocabulary you're my cuck
[2017-02-18 01:48:00] sleger : well i wouldnt take him in a fight, he does spend his time working on his muscles... but 10 btc well invested will do
[2017-02-18 01:48:12] sleger : price for russian do-ers
[2017-02-18 01:49:06] ThruTheFloor : sleger: Big doesnt even mean he can fight
[2017-02-18 01:49:50] MikeHunt : apparently chinese exchanges are having a "self-discipline meeting"
[2017-02-18 01:50:12] sumwen : sounds kinky
[2017-02-18 01:50:30] sleger : ThruTheFloor: well I cant fight either
[2017-02-18 01:50:34] MikeHunt : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdbORXEmbnk
[2017-02-18 01:50:43] MikeHunt : sleger: thats just stereotypical isnt it?
[2017-02-18 01:50:45] sleger : ThruTheFloor: I have people who can do that though
[2017-02-18 01:50:56] sleger : MikeHunt: not clicking your gay links again
[2017-02-18 01:54:07] rapidtrades : sleger: u have ppl who can do what?
[2017-02-18 01:54:12] thxforyourbtc! : sleger: do you use the rsi in your trades?
[2017-02-18 01:55:35] Nutella : good evening poors
[2017-02-18 01:55:43] sleger : thxforyourbtc!: no
[2017-02-18 01:56:06] Nutella : ^ guy with no car hihi
[2017-02-18 02:07:13] y1uy : Nutella: good evening, how is your short?
[2017-02-18 02:10:29] Nutella : short ok, milking longs like cows! hihi
[2017-02-18 02:11:40] Dynamix : /price
[2017-02-18 02:11:40] trollbot : Bitstamp: 1057.29 (0.04%)
[2017-02-18 02:11:40] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1057.6 (0.03%)
[2017-02-18 02:11:40] trollbot : itBit: 1056.96 (-0.01%)
[2017-02-18 02:11:40] trollbot : GDAX: 1057 (-0.34%)
[2017-02-18 02:11:41] trollbot : Kraken: 1055.71 (-0.03%)
[2017-02-18 02:11:41] trollbot : OKCoin: 1042.07 (0%)
[2017-02-18 02:12:45] sleger : @Nutella makes the best crepes
[2017-02-18 02:13:18] Nutella : true :)
[2017-02-18 02:14:58] Sultan Pepper : I like dipping my fingers into nutella and gently licking it all off
[2017-02-18 02:15:21] Sultan Pepper : it makes my fingers smell nice too
[2017-02-18 02:15:24] sleger : #disgusting
[2017-02-18 02:16:25] Sultan Pepper : ??
[2017-02-18 02:16:39] Dynamix : Pump to the moon
[2017-02-18 02:19:28] rapidrekts : Denied!
[2017-02-18 02:22:06] sleger : alejandromasari: how do you do your brain workout ?
[2017-02-18 02:22:20] Tetsuo : sleger: sleger , is that guy real?
[2017-02-18 02:22:40] rapidtrades : every gordon ramsey episode: 'SHUT THIS RESTAURANT DOWN! yell some more, buy them a new kitchen, brag about how u transformed the place'
[2017-02-18 02:22:41] alejandromasari : sleger: by having you as my cuck
[2017-02-18 02:22:41] sleger : Tetsuo: alejandruo ?
[2017-02-18 02:22:43] Tetsuo : that twitter account though...
[2017-02-18 02:22:44] Tetsuo : yes
[2017-02-18 02:22:50] sleger : Tetsuo: oh yes he is....
[2017-02-18 02:22:54] sleger : carpet seller
[2017-02-18 02:23:05] Tetsuo : wow, just wow
[2017-02-18 02:23:22] sleger : buy my 30$ video you'll be rich, look at my track record ! (i removed all my wrong predictions)
[2017-02-18 02:23:36] sleger : or whatever way he charges
[2017-02-18 02:23:43] sleger : he doesnt make money playing his own money anyways
[2017-02-18 02:23:44] Tetsuo : MadDog might fall for that
[2017-02-18 02:23:46] thxforyourbtc! : sleger: what predictions?
[2017-02-18 02:24:10] sleger : thxforyourbtc!: look at fscomeau, probably same idiot
[2017-02-18 02:24:18] rapidtrades : thxforyourbtc!: he has a 100% success rate
[2017-02-18 02:24:29] Tetsuo : Free money?
[2017-02-18 02:24:41] sleger : bought puts on aapl before earnings using selling calls to get the leverage, got totally rekt 10000x and turned out it was a demo IB account...
[2017-02-18 02:24:48] thxforyourbtc! : sleger: whos that? fscomeau
[2017-02-18 02:24:48] Dynamix : /price
[2017-02-18 02:24:49] trollbot : Bitstamp: 1056.99 (-0.03%)
[2017-02-18 02:24:49] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1057.0 (-0.06%)
[2017-02-18 02:24:49] trollbot : itBit: 1056.91 (0%)
[2017-02-18 02:24:49] trollbot : Kraken: 1054.76 (-0.09%)
[2017-02-18 02:24:49] trollbot : GDAX: 1058.46 (0.14%)
[2017-02-18 02:24:50] trollbot : OKCoin: 1041.43 (-0.06%)
[2017-02-18 02:24:59] sleger : thxforyourbtc!: have you heard of google ?
[2017-02-18 02:25:17] sleger : thxforyourbtc!: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=fscomeau
[2017-02-18 02:25:41] Sultan Pepper : /sentiment
[2017-02-18 02:25:44] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 53.68/46.32 Daily: 41.29/58.71 Weekly: 46.26/53.74 Monthly: 47.71/52.29
[2017-02-18 02:25:50] rapidtrades : sleger: https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/5ugwo1/wolfie_has_fallen_how_i_trolled_the_entire/
[2017-02-18 02:28:17] sleger : too long to read... well he tried to troll everyone he failed, then wrote a book ?
[2017-02-18 02:28:25] sleger : he was still pretty good at losing his bets
[2017-02-18 02:31:34] sleger : "3) To be allowed to make that trade (margin requirement is crazy on naked calls), I bought a ton of $128 calls. This is a vertical spread which allows me to do the trade as I want it. Of course, there is no chance AAPL is $128 after earnings, but without those calls, I would need a $2M+ cushion in margin, which I don’t have (anymore). TOTAL CREDIT: $100,000 USD. 4) All in all, this trade has cost me nothing to do :D. That’s right: $0 upfront cost! Free!"
[2017-02-18 02:32:11] sleger : free if aapl doesnt go above 128, ooops .... welcome to alejandromasari
[2017-02-18 02:33:10] sleger : /joke
[2017-02-18 02:33:12] trollbot : What's the difference between a Boy Scout and a guy who fixes bicycle horns? One's motto is 'Be Prepared', the other's is 'Beep Repaired' EDIT:I reached r/all, I promised a friend of mine that I would stop calling his mom hot if I reached all. He sends his regards...
[2017-02-18 02:37:08] dodic : sleger: there should be a board of all the people that blew up here
[2017-02-18 02:37:29] dodic : some people talk some shit for days / weeks. then BOOM
[2017-02-18 02:37:31] sleger : one guy lost 200-300 on one shot
[2017-02-18 02:37:41] sleger : short zec, poor guy
[2017-02-18 02:37:48] dodic : oof
[2017-02-18 02:38:14] sleger : there's been a few rekt for 500k-1000k contracts on swap or fut btc
[2017-02-18 02:38:21] sleger : that's not as bad though
[2017-02-18 02:38:32] Dynamix : We going to likr 1030s
[2017-02-18 02:38:40] sleger : likr yes
[2017-02-18 02:38:43] Dynamix : Good night got all longs
[2017-02-18 02:38:55] Dynamix : Good limuts
[2017-02-18 02:39:13] sleger : limuts are great
[2017-02-18 02:39:19] rapidtrades : talk eng everyone
[2017-02-18 02:39:49] sleger : are you a pure brit ? @rapidtrades
[2017-02-18 02:40:20] rapidtrades : im not british...
[2017-02-18 02:40:54] sleger : you live in uk though ?
[2017-02-18 02:40:58] dodic : he's north mexican
[2017-02-18 02:40:59] sleger : i thought you said you do
[2017-02-18 02:41:12] rapidtrades : no BTCJDS thinks I do
[2017-02-18 02:41:40] rapidtrades : I don't 'live' anywhere, been traveling for +2 years now
[2017-02-18 02:41:58] sleger : you said your nationality?
[2017-02-18 02:42:14] rapidtrades : nope :)
[2017-02-18 02:42:35] sleger : but you live in europe currently ?
[2017-02-18 02:43:12] rapidtrades : yes malta right now
[2017-02-18 02:43:21] sleger : malta, seriously ?
[2017-02-18 02:43:25] rapidtrades : yes
[2017-02-18 02:43:35] sleger : a lot of brokers are there, because less regulations
[2017-02-18 02:43:39] sleger : probably also no tax
[2017-02-18 02:43:53] sleger : apparently its also very pretty and cheap to live there, right ?
[2017-02-18 02:44:12] rapidtrades : yes tax is a bit funny....like there's 0 tax on money u don't repatriate in the country
[2017-02-18 02:44:31] rapidtrades : im not a resident here tho, only here for the winter
[2017-02-18 02:44:37] sleger : theres the same in the uk actually for first 35 months
[2017-02-18 02:44:40] rapidtrades : its not a bad place for traders i think
[2017-02-18 02:44:44] sleger : big tax loophole everyone rich uses
[2017-02-18 02:45:10] rapidtrades : its not cheap per say but cheaper then western europe
[2017-02-18 02:45:34] sleger : why not go to greece, probably cheap there ?
[2017-02-18 02:45:47] sleger : great weather, food....
[2017-02-18 02:46:02] rapidtrades : no eng and I don't like greek ppl
[2017-02-18 02:46:33] sleger : they induce you into shorting btc at 800
[2017-02-18 02:46:37] sleger : thats their problem
[2017-02-18 02:46:48] rapidtrades : no he's cool, i like him :)
[2017-02-18 02:47:39] sleger : yes he is cool, but i wouldnt listen to his advice
[2017-02-18 02:47:46] sleger : i know why he does what he does
[2017-02-18 02:47:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 4444 @ 1051.03
[2017-02-18 02:47:55] sleger : but doesnt make sense
[2017-02-18 02:48:18] sleger : REKT: thanks mate, great job !
[2017-02-18 02:48:27] rapidtrades : what do u mean?
[2017-02-18 02:49:09] sleger : like not buying btc at 900 and having bids at 810 when he expected to hold until 2500$/btc
[2017-02-18 02:49:34] sleger : if you are hoping for 2.5x then dont try to risk 10% and miss the trade
[2017-02-18 02:49:44] sleger : just doesnt make sense
[2017-02-18 02:49:46] rapidtrades : yeah i don't like that style of trading too but plenty do it
[2017-02-18 02:50:02] sleger : its fine if you risk 100 to make 100
[2017-02-18 02:50:06] rapidtrades : i think if u gonna buy cheap u have to wait for bigger discounts
[2017-02-18 02:50:18] sleger : but if you want long term to make 1600 dont be gready for 100$
[2017-02-18 02:50:22] rapidtrades : yes...maybe buy at 50% or smth
[2017-02-18 02:50:52] rapidtrades : i think we're both waiting for the fundamentals to play out
[2017-02-18 02:51:10] sleger : im net short now
[2017-02-18 02:51:13] sleger : sorry net flat
[2017-02-18 02:51:23] sleger : still long quaterlies, short other stuff
[2017-02-18 02:51:31] sleger : long btc/usd
[2017-02-18 02:51:36] sleger : sorry long eth/usd
[2017-02-18 02:52:16] rapidtrades : im thinking if I should swap the swap for march...i'll lose my ADL spot from 880
[2017-02-18 02:52:26] rapidtrades : tough call
[2017-02-18 02:52:30] sleger : rapidtrades: dont do it
[2017-02-18 02:52:41] sleger : adl protection worth a lot
[2017-02-18 02:52:42] rapidtrades : but its free 1.6% lol
[2017-02-18 02:53:16] sleger : im keeping my short swap for a reason
[2017-02-18 02:53:34] sleger : even on a slow move up, i got adl 200+btc on xbCh17
[2017-02-18 02:53:37] rapidtrades : if we get bigger premium i will swap it...cos then u have that added buffer
[2017-02-18 02:53:45] sleger : never able to reenter at the same price
[2017-02-18 02:53:47] thxforyourbtc! : Whats ADL?
[2017-02-18 02:53:57] sleger : thxforyourbtc!: Anti Demon Lemon
[2017-02-18 02:54:03] sleger : very powerful shit
[2017-02-18 02:54:09] Tetsuo : lol
[2017-02-18 02:54:11] MikeHunt : thxforyourbtc!: https://www.bitmex.com/app/autoDeleveraging
[2017-02-18 02:54:36] rapidtrades : sleger: march is a lot more liquid then XBC tho
[2017-02-18 02:54:52] sleger : rapidtrades: they're both march
[2017-02-18 02:54:56] sleger : but yes
[2017-02-18 02:54:57] j8 : both are fine until the MM hits limits
[2017-02-18 02:54:59] thxforyourbtc! : can someone tldr for me?
[2017-02-18 02:55:05] j8 : then either way it's a ghost town
[2017-02-18 02:55:05] Tetsuo : no
[2017-02-18 02:55:09] sleger : but MM had hit its limit anyways
[2017-02-18 02:55:25] rapidtrades : I think at these premiums it doesn't seem like a good swap
[2017-02-18 02:55:35] sleger : thxforyourbtc!: can you tldr tldr ?
[2017-02-18 02:55:53] Sultan Pepper : thxforyourbtc!: how'd tou het that name?
[2017-02-18 02:56:03] Sultan Pepper : *you get
[2017-02-18 02:56:33] thxforyourbtc! : sleger: ever heard of google
[2017-02-18 02:56:38] thxforyourbtc! : sleger: lol
[2017-02-18 02:56:48] Sultan Pepper : thxforyourbtc!: what's a google?
[2017-02-18 02:57:01] Sultan Pepper : does it have ADL?
[2017-02-18 02:57:16] MikeHunt : sleger: http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-investor-roger-ver-to-push-for-okcoin-liquidation-in-court/
[2017-02-18 02:57:19] thxforyourbtc! : how do i turn off these damn popups when someone says my name
[2017-02-18 02:57:26] Sultan Pepper : thxforyourbtc!:
[2017-02-18 02:57:30] Sultan Pepper : thxforyourbtc!:
[2017-02-18 02:57:32] Sultan Pepper : thxforyourbtc!:
[2017-02-18 02:57:41] thxforyourbtc! : yo stop i cant type
[2017-02-18 02:57:50] Sultan Pepper : thxforyourbtc!: sorry
[2017-02-18 02:58:01] Sultan Pepper : thxforyourbtc!: i'll stop bro
[2017-02-18 02:59:00] micmix : sleger: I think MM reduced his limits on XBC bc he can't hedge on cny markets anymore
[2017-02-18 02:59:09] micmix : XBC is way too dangerous now
[2017-02-18 02:59:29] Sultan Pepper : thxforyourbtc!: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Bitmex+adl
[2017-02-18 02:59:38] thxforyourbtc! : i found it man
[2017-02-18 02:59:46] sleger : micmix: yes agreed
[2017-02-18 02:59:53] sleger : but also things discount will go away
[2017-02-18 02:59:57] sleger : so want to be long
[2017-02-18 03:00:34] micmix : with your position sizes it's going to be hard to avoid ADL or re-enter after ADL
[2017-02-18 03:00:48] MikeHunt : sleger: i know u dont appreciate my links but u might want to look at the last one i posted regarding OKC USD liquidation
[2017-02-18 03:01:16] sleger : MikeHunt: dude its irrelevant
[2017-02-18 03:01:28] sleger : I-R-R-E-L-E-V-A-N-T
[2017-02-18 03:01:32] Tetsuo : it´s only abput 500k and not exchange relevant
[2017-02-18 03:01:33] sleger : i talked to star about it
[2017-02-18 03:01:49] Tetsuo : still okkorn sucks big time
[2017-02-18 03:02:02] sleger : exactly 500k, pocket monkey money (well not for @alejandromasari though)
[2017-02-18 03:02:10] sleger : Tetsuo: star rocks
[2017-02-18 03:02:22] Tetsuo : do you know him personally?
[2017-02-18 03:02:32] sleger : Tetsuo: not personally no, electronically
[2017-02-18 03:02:33] degen : I'm new to this site and haven't gotten ADL'd yet. At what profit/leverage does that usually happen?
[2017-02-18 03:02:44] Tetsuo : 100BTC+
[2017-02-18 03:03:29] MikeHunt : apparently OKC hasnt been responding to the legal stuff, so if they dont respond again, the whole company gets the chop, and everyone with a stake becomes a creditor
[2017-02-18 03:03:31] degen : dang
[2017-02-18 03:03:34] y1uy : Tetsuo: im sure its based on % not earnings..
[2017-02-18 03:04:18] MikeHunt : “[Then] their company in Hong Kong, that all their customers have an agreement [with], that all the customers trust with their money – regardless of who holds that money – the court is going to put them into liquidation and order all that money back and make everyone a creditor unless OKCoin actually shows up in court to settle this thing,” Kelman told CoinDesk.
[2017-02-18 03:04:46] sleger : MikeHunt: please....
[2017-02-18 03:04:50] sleger : you're a joke
[2017-02-18 03:04:53] sleger : talk to a lawyer
[2017-02-18 03:05:00] sleger : use your brain
[2017-02-18 03:05:15] sleger : do you really think a company like 0kc would risk it all for 500k DOLLARS ?
[2017-02-18 03:05:44] sleger : (sorry to be rude, but come on....)
[2017-02-18 03:05:58] MikeHunt : sleger: im just making u aware
[2017-02-18 03:06:01] rapidtrades : well the q is why didn't they fight it in court?
[2017-02-18 03:06:07] rapidtrades : and why aren't they responding?
[2017-02-18 03:06:09] MikeHunt : i figure u got a lot of money over there
[2017-02-18 03:06:26] rapidtrades : lot of things don't add up with that company
[2017-02-18 03:07:02] rapidtrades : sleger: what did he tell u?
[2017-02-18 03:07:55] MikeHunt : "Former OKCoin exec Changpeng Zhao later backed up Ver, going on to allege that the exchange inflated its trade volumes with bots and had manipulated the outcome of an audit conducted in August 2014."
[2017-02-18 03:08:04] sleger : "all good, we cooperating, we have dim sum lunch with regulators ahah then hot sake then girls"
[2017-02-18 03:08:20] sleger : MikeHunt: that part is true
[2017-02-18 03:08:20] MikeHunt : sleger: if they can move it to mainland then maybe
[2017-02-18 03:08:29] sleger : but that was 3y ago
[2017-02-18 03:09:04] rapidtrades : which part is true? the fake audit?
[2017-02-18 03:09:34] Sultan Pepper : How much is the BFX daily interest for lending?
[2017-02-18 03:09:44] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: u can find the article on coindesk
[2017-02-18 03:10:00] rapidtrades : i read the article, i posted a link here this morning
[2017-02-18 03:10:10] rapidtrades : like 14 hrs ago
[2017-02-18 03:10:41] sleger : rapidtrades: volume manipulation at the time, and audit, they didnt want to have to pay me the car
[2017-02-18 03:11:12] sleger : rapidtrades: usually he reposts them a week later, he is catching up now
[2017-02-18 03:11:55] sleger : btw i have done 4 withdrawals from 0kc futures today and 0 issue
[2017-02-18 03:13:03] sleger : i have another pro-tip
[2017-02-18 03:13:13] sleger : if i get 3 yesses then i say it
[2017-02-18 03:15:06] sleger : ok that's zero
[2017-02-18 03:15:30] sleger : expires in 15 minutes
[2017-02-18 03:15:44] rapidtrades : I wouldn't hold my breath :)
[2017-02-18 03:16:02] sleger : that doesnt count as a yes
[2017-02-18 03:16:11] sleger : malta, damn im jealous
[2017-02-18 03:18:04] sleger : ok nevermind not enough hype, maybe another day
[2017-02-18 03:19:30] rapidtrades : weather has been great this year
[2017-02-18 03:19:45] rapidtrades : was here two years ago and it rained every 2 day
[2017-02-18 03:20:02] rapidtrades : ppl say last year was cold
[2017-02-18 03:20:26] rapidtrades : so it's a bit inconsistent...u never know what's it gonan be like
[2017-02-18 03:22:04] sleger : i know its better than london
[2017-02-18 03:23:41] rapidtrades : yeah its great now but when it rains it can be awful
[2017-02-18 03:24:16] MikeHunt : still better than sub zero
[2017-02-18 03:24:22] MikeHunt : fucking UK weather
[2017-02-18 03:24:29] rapidtrades : its an island so nothing's stopping the wind, so u have strong winds spraying u with water, umrellas are useless and garbage bags flying all over the place
[2017-02-18 03:24:45] rapidtrades : they dont' like containers here
[2017-02-18 03:25:08] rapidtrades : they kinda leave them on the street to get picked up
[2017-02-18 03:26:09] Sultan Pepper : H17
[2017-02-18 03:26:51] sleger : Sultan Pepper: thanks
[2017-02-18 03:27:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2600 @ 1053.26
[2017-02-18 03:27:25] Sultan Pepper : sleger: sold 100?
[2017-02-18 03:27:43] sleger : bit more
[2017-02-18 03:27:57] sleger : 6k
[2017-02-18 03:28:03] Sultan Pepper : 1000
[2017-02-18 03:28:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 4000 @ 1054.25
[2017-02-18 03:28:28] Sultan Pepper : That 1234 tho
[2017-02-18 03:28:50] rapidtrades : it just never ends does it
[2017-02-18 03:28:58] rapidtrades : the slow pump that goes on forever
[2017-02-18 03:29:18] Sultan Pepper : Its ending
[2017-02-18 03:29:55] rapidtrades : h17 hit 1075 but its not showing in recent trades?
[2017-02-18 03:30:19] Sultan Pepper : I didnt see it
[2017-02-18 03:30:19] micmix : it ends with ETF news
[2017-02-18 03:30:30] sleger : buy xbC people, so cheap, im doing it
[2017-02-18 03:30:56] rapidtrades : no way, not buying chiynoya
[2017-02-18 03:31:16] sleger : buy now or buy later
[2017-02-18 03:31:25] Sultan Pepper : sleger: i want to trust you
[2017-02-18 03:32:26] sleger : you can
[2017-02-18 03:32:31] micmix : rapidtrades: I don't see 1075 on H17, highest I sold was 1073
[2017-02-18 03:33:09] rapidtrades : ok tnx
[2017-02-18 03:33:14] YOLOCOIN : bitstamp illiquid POS
[2017-02-18 03:33:29] YOLOCOIN : how can these 2 shit exchanges be our index?
[2017-02-18 03:33:41] Tetsuo : plz YOLO
[2017-02-18 03:33:45] rapidtrades : micmix: are u net selling? or just moving stuff around
[2017-02-18 03:33:47] Sultan Pepper : sleger: i bought 100 :D
[2017-02-18 03:33:54] sleger : 100 btc ?
[2017-02-18 03:33:56] sleger : why ?
[2017-02-18 03:33:59] sleger : you crazy ?
[2017-02-18 03:34:05] Sultan Pepper : Noooooo way
[2017-02-18 03:34:11] Sultan Pepper : 100 contracts
[2017-02-18 03:34:21] sleger : h17 ?
[2017-02-18 03:34:22] Sultan Pepper : 0.0015 btc
[2017-02-18 03:34:28] Sultan Pepper : xbc
[2017-02-18 03:34:35] sleger : 100 contracts is not 0.0015
[2017-02-18 03:34:44] micmix : rapidtrades: sold 2/3 of H17 position, net flat
[2017-02-18 03:35:05] sleger : micmix: no more 0kc quaterly ?
[2017-02-18 03:35:30] Sultan Pepper : sleger: w/ cross lvg of 3.64?
[2017-02-18 03:35:41] micmix : very small long on quarterly left
[2017-02-18 03:35:46] sleger : I still have almost 2/3 of my long, i'm surprisingly following the whale....
[2017-02-18 03:36:10] Sultan Pepper : sleger: .1383 btc
[2017-02-18 03:36:21] rapidtrades : WHALE WARS
[2017-02-18 03:37:07] micmix : was getting a bit uncomfortable with amount of capital on okc, I'm risk-averse
[2017-02-18 03:38:27] sleger : we all are, but i think its all cool in choyna
[2017-02-18 03:39:04] BitMEX_Arthur : OKC quarterly is basically flat basis now, going to be a violent short squeeze
[2017-02-18 03:39:39] rapidtrades : yeah, right
[2017-02-18 03:40:28] sleger : rapidtrades: yo uagree ?
[2017-02-18 03:40:45] sleger : want to squeeze some shorts ?
[2017-02-18 03:41:05] rapidtrades : i was being sarcastic
[2017-02-18 03:41:11] rapidtrades : i dont' follow the logic
[2017-02-18 03:41:26] rapidtrades : how does flat basis lead to short squeeze
[2017-02-18 03:41:34] sleger : well one guy still has to buy 20m$ worth ok 0kc quaterlies
[2017-02-18 03:41:57] sleger : will he manage to do it without moving the price ?
[2017-02-18 03:42:00] sleger : suspense.....
[2017-02-18 03:42:01] rapidtrades : its flat basis tho, he can hold until settlement
[2017-02-18 03:42:14] rapidtrades : doesn't lose anything
[2017-02-18 03:42:23] BitMEX_Arthur : Yeah but he sold at a big discount, so the MTM is painful right now
[2017-02-18 03:42:39] sleger : and other people are just arbers, they will hedge during settlement
[2017-02-18 03:43:01] rapidtrades : maybe he's a miner
[2017-02-18 03:43:01] sleger : plus price move higher means there would be a large >0 premium without him
[2017-02-18 03:43:03] micmix : I should start doing more here, it's safer even though basis swings are not as large
[2017-02-18 03:43:54] sleger : I still think he created the discount, not really sold into it
[2017-02-18 03:44:01] rapidtrades : didn't have a way to hedge after the margin ban so dumped it on futures
[2017-02-18 03:44:02] DorianWhack-A-Moto : /sentiment
[2017-02-18 03:44:05] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 24.27/75.73 Daily: 40.12/59.89 Weekly: 46.23/53.77 Monthly: 47.71/52.29
[2017-02-18 03:44:09] BitMEX_Arthur : What do you mean "created"
[2017-02-18 03:44:19] sleger : discount is his market impact
[2017-02-18 03:44:24] BitMEX_Arthur : Gotcha
[2017-02-18 03:44:34] BitMEX_Arthur : yeah he was a very motivated and scared hedger
[2017-02-18 03:44:40] sleger : if you sell 35m$ of future anywhere, you're going to leave a market impact for a while
[2017-02-18 03:44:54] micmix : that's what I think as well, never seen that much selling pressure on okc before
[2017-02-18 03:44:58] rapidtrades : its scary that liquidity is that low @sleger
[2017-02-18 03:45:07] rapidtrades : imagine what happens if ETF is approved
[2017-02-18 03:45:10] sleger : that or he had inside knowledge and bought other places and is actually >0 pnl
[2017-02-18 03:45:21] sleger : rapidtrades: ETF would bring huge liquidity
[2017-02-18 03:45:36] BitMEX_Arthur : From the conversations with some of the miners in china they are shit scared
[2017-02-18 03:45:47] sleger : not related, but there were "pre-arranged" 20m$ trade on eth happening on gemini
[2017-02-18 03:45:58] odieoh : scared that the ETF will be approved?
[2017-02-18 03:46:01] sleger : eth is going to be a bigger deal, I told you already
[2017-02-18 03:46:04] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Arthur: further action or for their locked monies?
[2017-02-18 03:46:46] BitMEX_Arthur : They are afraid they are next for "meetings" with the regulators
[2017-02-18 03:46:58] sleger : miners dont make sense when we will have a good POS coin like eth will be, wasted money
[2017-02-18 03:47:26] sleger : wont work at first, couple of forks and then all good ;)
[2017-02-18 03:47:26] BitMEX_Arthur : sleger: so do you think ETH will get above 10% market share
[2017-02-18 03:47:32] rapidtrades : btw do u know if Yuan withdrawals are proceeding smoothly? apparently foreigners can't withdraw from CNY sites @BitMEX_Arthur
[2017-02-18 03:47:44] odieoh : Oh. The old, Guess who's coming to dinner, the PBOC with a van and handcuffs."
[2017-02-18 03:47:49] sleger : my bet 6 months ago was that eth market cap will be > btc market cap in 18 months @BitMEX_Arthur
[2017-02-18 03:47:57] BitMEX_Arthur : rapidtrades: Depends on the operator
[2017-02-18 03:48:11] rapidtrades : sleger: that's hard to belive
[2017-02-18 03:48:20] BitMEX_Arthur : I only trade on BTCC in China but haven't done so in months
[2017-02-18 03:48:26] sleger : BitMEX_Arthur: so yes im behing on my bet as of now, and probably wont make it but i still think its a good bet
[2017-02-18 03:48:43] BitMEX_Arthur : Why do you like ETH more than BTC?
[2017-02-18 03:48:44] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Arthur: which are having problems?
[2017-02-18 03:48:46] thxforyourbtc! : sleger: seriously?
[2017-02-18 03:49:17] BitMEX_Arthur : I think it's a case by case basis depending on who you are
[2017-02-18 03:49:36] rapidtrades : ah of course....its china after all :)
[2017-02-18 03:49:38] sleger : BitMEX_Arthur: I like both, I just think long term eth has more chance of not being blocked by gvts, also POS will be VASTLY superior to POW once the early issues will be resolved
[2017-02-18 03:49:54] sleger : and btc has bad reputation with govts, eth doesnt and wont
[2017-02-18 03:50:00] etoque : oh
[2017-02-18 03:50:07] etoque : there's a trollbox here,hello fella
[2017-02-18 03:50:39] Sultan Pepper : etoque: hi, welcome
[2017-02-18 03:51:22] startChat : sleger: governments like proof of Vitalik
[2017-02-18 03:51:27] BitMEX_Arthur : sleger: What's your view on the ETF approval
[2017-02-18 03:51:30] sleger : bitcoin does have early mover / gold storage / govt escape money / ex wife divorce money advantage, but might not keep it forever
[2017-02-18 03:51:40] sleger : ETF I cant say anything
[2017-02-18 03:51:51] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Arthur: what do u think about the whole story 'we have to pause withdrawals to implement AML' legit or excuse?
[2017-02-18 03:52:31] BitMEX_Arthur : rapidtrades: they are fighting for their lives, they will do whatever it takes to curry favour with the pboc, there is no law in china accept what the party says,, and that changes rapidly
[2017-02-18 03:52:33] sleger : let the market bets speak for ETF approval
[2017-02-18 03:53:13] odieoh : Is the ETF even on the chinese traders' radar?
[2017-02-18 03:53:30] j8 : sleger: no opinion on the prediction market? that's boring
[2017-02-18 03:53:44] sleger : odieoh: check the chinese trollbox
[2017-02-18 03:53:48] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Arthur: sounds scary as f*ck
[2017-02-18 03:53:56] BitMEX_Arthur : rapidtrades: it's china
[2017-02-18 03:54:00] sleger : j8: no , cant say anything
[2017-02-18 03:54:06] BitMEX_Arthur : Just have to roll with it
[2017-02-18 03:54:18] rapidtrades : dunno why china became a center for BTC exchanges, never made sense to me with all that political risk
[2017-02-18 03:54:26] sleger : cause miners
[2017-02-18 03:54:39] sleger : they mine ALL the coins
[2017-02-18 03:54:41] rapidtrades : miners came first right?
[2017-02-18 03:54:42] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: fake money
[2017-02-18 03:54:54] MikeHunt : 'free' electricity
[2017-02-18 03:55:02] BitMEX_Arthur : It's basically free
[2017-02-18 03:55:22] BitMEX_Arthur : the local governments love bitcoin, they get bribed and excess electricity gets used
[2017-02-18 03:55:32] odieoh : There were those poor dudes in Venezuela who got busted for stealing electricity to mine
[2017-02-18 03:55:36] BitMEX_Arthur : but local and central govt are always fighting with each other
[2017-02-18 03:56:04] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Arthur: if pboc can get exchanges to implement capital controls, surely that would be enough?
[2017-02-18 03:56:04] sleger : electricity black market ! send Elon Musk
[2017-02-18 03:56:29] BitMEX_Arthur : MikeHunt: who knows what the real motive is
[2017-02-18 03:56:59] MikeHunt : some suggest they fear its causing chinese to sell yuan and buy bitcoin, causing devaluation
[2017-02-18 03:57:00] sleger : BitMEX_Arthur: do you (bitmex) think you are safe in HK with respect to that ?
[2017-02-18 03:57:17] BitMEX_Arthur : sleger: yes, we aren't billionaire tycoons
[2017-02-18 03:57:23] BitMEX_Arthur : and we aren't chinese nationals
[2017-02-18 03:57:29] sleger : yes but you're in china territory
[2017-02-18 03:57:35] sleger : they arrested one of them there
[2017-02-18 03:57:44] BitMEX_Arthur : yes they arrested a chinese national in hong kong
[2017-02-18 03:57:53] BitMEX_Arthur : not an american
[2017-02-18 03:58:14] rapidtrades : arrested for what?
[2017-02-18 03:58:14] sleger : with trump they might think twice
[2017-02-18 03:58:25] sleger : having female bodyguards @rapidtrades
[2017-02-18 03:58:42] rapidtrades : 'bodyguards'?
[2017-02-18 03:58:43] BitMEX_Arthur : my friends used to see him at the pool with his female bodyguards and his kids
[2017-02-18 03:58:59] sleger : BitMEX_Arthur: did you ever hang out with li ka-shing ?
[2017-02-18 03:59:16] BitMEX_Arthur : no never met superman, i have met one of his grandsons
[2017-02-18 03:59:43] sleger : so no risk of HK exchanges getting raid by china ?
[2017-02-18 04:00:08] BitMEX_Arthur : no china isn't going to draw attention to hk status vis-a-vis china by going after bitcoin exchanges
[2017-02-18 04:00:13] BitMEX_Arthur : no upside
[2017-02-18 04:00:19] sleger : ok good to know
[2017-02-18 04:00:39] rapidtrades : they can still get raided by HK authorities :)
[2017-02-18 04:00:46] sleger : nah no risk
[2017-02-18 04:00:49] BitMEX_Arthur : hk doesn't give a fuck about bitcoin
[2017-02-18 04:01:20] rapidtrades : china didn't give a fuck until it gave a fuck
[2017-02-18 04:01:27] BitMEX_Arthur : as long as you don't try and do gambling type businesses that compete with the govt monopoly they don't really care what you do
[2017-02-18 04:01:42] rapidtrades : wtf....Arthur is not subject to censorship
[2017-02-18 04:01:45] BitMEX_Arthur : that's the only no no in hong kong
[2017-02-18 04:02:11] BitMEX_Arthur : rapidtrades: boss man privileges
[2017-02-18 04:02:11] sleger : I spoke to phil (finex) on the phone recently he was very confident they would pay everything back soon and be back where they were again, its crazy no lawsuit brought them down so far
[2017-02-18 04:02:36] BitMEX_Arthur : sleger: the cost of lawyers probably exceeds what people had on deposit
[2017-02-18 04:02:45] BitMEX_Arthur : and i'm sure they made side deals to the large traders
[2017-02-18 04:02:55] l3f : sleger: If bfx gets un-hacked shouldn't we be going 100x since it can only go up?
[2017-02-18 04:03:32] sleger : BitMEX_Arthur: possible but i dont think they did, because that would have exposed some people to criminal liabilities = us jail time
[2017-02-18 04:03:36] thxforyourbtc! : this march contract has chance to close at 2k max i think
[2017-02-18 04:04:09] thxforyourbtc! : decent chance
[2017-02-18 04:04:12] Sultan Pepper : thxforyourbtc!: why do you say that?
[2017-02-18 04:04:25] BitMEX_Arthur : sleger: maybe, i probably know less than you, i'm not one of their favourite people at the moment
[2017-02-18 04:04:25] thxforyourbtc! : etf approve could do it
[2017-02-18 04:04:30] thxforyourbtc! : i bet the farm
[2017-02-18 04:04:30] rapidtrades : sleger: what do they care, they already broke bankruptcy law
[2017-02-18 04:05:15] BitMEX_Arthur : i saw JLL at a recent bitcoin meetup, he seemed in good spirits
[2017-02-18 04:05:17] startChat : BitMEX_Arthur: can you and PGP please kiss and make up? it is embarassing. you guys could make beauty together
[2017-02-18 04:05:19] sleger : rapidtrades: "maybe" for us clients, but that hasnt been lawfully declared
[2017-02-18 04:05:58] BitMEX_Arthur : when you get buttfinessed it takes a while to heal :smirk:
[2017-02-18 04:06:28] rapidtrades : they'll mess up again
[2017-02-18 04:06:36] sleger : yes although in the end i got more than the deal I offered them and they refused to take
[2017-02-18 04:06:43] sleger : (sent by lawyer)
[2017-02-18 04:06:46] rapidtrades : there was no major penalty for their mistake, so they will learn nothing
[2017-02-18 04:07:21] BitMEX_Arthur : At the end of day it's up to the users, and it doesn't seem they care that much
[2017-02-18 04:07:31] sleger : BitMEX_Arthur: are you sure ?
[2017-02-18 04:07:35] sleger : i dont know
[2017-02-18 04:07:44] BitMEX_Arthur : the trading volumes speak to people not caring
[2017-02-18 04:07:46] sleger : but what would matter is USD ot BTC deposits
[2017-02-18 04:07:46] startChat : sleger: have u looked at volumes?