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[2017-02-17 16:02:15] kogroken : Jason_: Counterparty risk is the risk that the company you store your coins at goes bankrupt, is robbed, or robs you
[2017-02-17 16:02:23] Dynamix : okcoin dumping :)
[2017-02-17 16:02:29] BTC-Noob : Jason_: other party defaulting on its obligations
[2017-02-17 16:02:46] Jason_ : Thanks BTC-Noob and kogreken.
[2017-02-17 16:02:48] kogroken : Or is hit by goverment decree and has to block your coins, like chineese exchanges had to do
[2017-02-17 16:03:04] shery : /price
[2017-02-17 16:03:05] trollbot : itBit: 1055.28 (-0.02%)
[2017-02-17 16:03:05] trollbot : Bitstamp: 1055.90 (-0.17%)
[2017-02-17 16:03:05] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1059.9 (-0.01%)
[2017-02-17 16:03:05] trollbot : OKCoin: 1046.7 (-0.06%)
[2017-02-17 16:03:06] trollbot : Kraken: 1058.54 (0.24%)
[2017-02-17 16:03:09] Jason_ : sleger I would like to give you $106 for your accurate answers. What is your btc address?
[2017-02-17 16:03:22] jung1 : finex wtf
[2017-02-17 16:03:37] sleger : Jason_: i dont own one :(
[2017-02-17 16:03:42] carl : Finex fucking sending
[2017-02-17 16:04:01] jung1 : look at that candle on finex to 67
[2017-02-17 16:04:47] BitMEX_Greg : Jason_: There is no fee for letting Bitcoin sit here. You are only exposed to BitMEX counterparty risk.
[2017-02-17 16:05:20] BTCDJS : /sentiment
[2017-02-17 16:05:23] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 18.91/81.09 Daily: 39.76/60.24 Weekly: 45.71/54.29 Monthly: 47.85/52.15
[2017-02-17 16:05:24] Jason_ : Thanks Greg.
[2017-02-17 16:05:59] BTCDJS : WoW
[2017-02-17 16:06:39] shery : /price
[2017-02-17 16:06:40] trollbot : Bitstamp: 1057.99 (0.2%)
[2017-02-17 16:06:40] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1060.2 (0.03%)
[2017-02-17 16:06:40] trollbot : itBit: 1056.2 (0.09%)
[2017-02-17 16:06:40] trollbot : Kraken: 1059.93 (0.13%)
[2017-02-17 16:06:40] trollbot : OKCoin: 1046.71 (0%)
[2017-02-17 16:06:40] trollbot : GDAX: 1058.12 (0.03%)
[2017-02-17 16:06:43] rapidtrades : http://www.etf.com/sections/features-and-news/bitcoin-etfs-dummies?nopaging=1
[2017-02-17 16:07:37] Jason_ : Apparently there is no spot trading here. Does that mean everyone here trades ETFs (Exchange Traded Funds)?
[2017-02-17 16:08:14] MrRGnome : Jason_: No.
[2017-02-17 16:08:18] Jason_ : If so, there is the issue of the ETF price being different from the prices at other exchanges like bitfixex.
[2017-02-17 16:08:32] BitMEX_Greg : Jason_: This is a derivatives exchange. People trades "contracts" here
[2017-02-17 16:08:46] kogroken : Jason_: There's futures here, and Perpetual Swap which is an instrument that is anchored to average of several spot exchanges through a variable funding rate
[2017-02-17 16:08:46] sleger : rapidtrades: thanks : "If the SEC rejects the ETF, do you expect some kind of crash? Bogart: I definitely don't expect a crash. "
[2017-02-17 16:09:35] BTC-Noob : sleger: lol that is what makes btc so great, always crashing with bad news that is predictable. wait for it
[2017-02-17 16:09:56] BTC-Noob : and then recovering in a blitzering fashion
[2017-02-17 16:09:57] shery : sleger: crash would be epic
[2017-02-17 16:10:14] rapidtrades : sleger: he said I don't expect more then 10% crash
[2017-02-17 16:10:17] rapidtrades : and he's wrong
[2017-02-17 16:10:40] carl : It'll moon or dump, that's all it is
[2017-02-17 16:10:51] carl : In either case it'll be severe for the first day or so at least
[2017-02-17 16:10:53] rapidtrades : we'd be much lower without the ETF hype
[2017-02-17 16:10:56] carl : Same thing with PBOC
[2017-02-17 16:11:04] ThruTheFloor : /sentiment
[2017-02-17 16:11:07] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 23.74/76.26 Daily: 39.93/60.07 Weekly: 45.74/54.26 Monthly: 47.86/52.14
[2017-02-17 16:12:00] rapidtrades : hope the decision is out soon so i don't have to waste 3 weeks of my life here
[2017-02-17 16:12:31] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: But the more time you waste, the more money you make!
[2017-02-17 16:12:38] ThruTheFloor : Hopefully*
[2017-02-17 16:12:46] rapidtrades : not rly, i don't trade short-term
[2017-02-17 16:13:06] rapidtrades : i take some arbs but those don't require 24/7 watch
[2017-02-17 16:13:08] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: You're missing out bro, 100x impulse trades is where it's at
[2017-02-17 16:13:20] rapidtrades : :)
[2017-02-17 16:13:41] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: I commend you for sticking to your guns. You wont turn bull until ATH is broken. I wonder if we will ever see three digits again. Im careful not to get sucked into euphoria. So im sober when I say, I think we will break ATH and not fall bellow 1000 again
[2017-02-17 16:14:43] ThruTheFloor : BTCDJS: Two years ago they said the exact same thing
[2017-02-17 16:14:56] ThruTheFloor : A year later bitcoin was around $200 iirc
[2017-02-17 16:15:16] jung1 : ThruTheFloor: +1
[2017-02-17 16:15:32] BTCDJS : ThruTheFloor: Wait let me check sobriety levels again
[2017-02-17 16:15:59] longbydefault : two years ago bitcoin was above 1000 for only 3 days
[2017-02-17 16:16:14] BTC-Noob : if we look at btc chart we can notice since 250$ its baseline is an upward sloping curve to which the price returns after each pump.
[2017-02-17 16:16:22] BTCDJS : But that was a major bubble
[2017-02-17 16:16:29] BTCDJS : Price went up too fast
[2017-02-17 16:16:39] BTCDJS : it was brand new
[2017-02-17 16:16:50] BTCDJS : its matured a little
[2017-02-17 16:16:53] longbydefault : two years ago bitcoin was above 1000 for only a few days... now people are getting used to 4 digits
[2017-02-17 16:17:01] BTCDJS : slow steady healthy rise
[2017-02-17 16:17:02] rapidtrades : we've been in pump mode since August 2015
[2017-02-17 16:17:06] BTC-Noob : if we continue our curve, soon we will see vertical price appreciation lol
[2017-02-17 16:17:08] rapidtrades : odds are it dies soon
[2017-02-17 16:17:11] longbydefault : people are not scared to buy at low 1000s anymore
[2017-02-17 16:17:18] BTC-Noob : litterally launching to the moon
[2017-02-17 16:17:19] ThruTheFloor : And yet, last month we went from 1100 to 700s
[2017-02-17 16:17:33] longbydefault : yeah... for a short time...
[2017-02-17 16:17:37] longbydefault : its not the same as before
[2017-02-17 16:17:43] BTC-Noob : longbydefault: 1000 is our current bottom
[2017-02-17 16:17:56] ThruTheFloor : Anything, another hack, PBoC, ETF rejections, could send us down into the 900s or lower
[2017-02-17 16:18:04] longbydefault : it could...
[2017-02-17 16:18:10] longbydefault : but it wouldn't stay there long
[2017-02-17 16:18:15] BTCDJS : there may be a bubble when ATH is broken. It will crash but above 1000
[2017-02-17 16:18:34] ThruTheFloor : We'll see
[2017-02-17 16:18:52] Jason_ : Note on Restricted Jurisdictions At this time, BitMEX cannot serve customers in your country. You may still create an account, but you will be unable to deposit. If you wish to try simulated trading, please try our BitMEX Testnet.
[2017-02-17 16:19:15] abbey : BTCDJS: agree
[2017-02-17 16:19:21] BTCDJS : yeah im not sayingI am 100% certain. Im 60/40
[2017-02-17 16:19:21] Jason_ : I live in the usa, is that true, that this was a waste of time for me to come here?
[2017-02-17 16:19:30] ThruTheFloor : Personally, I have a short I want to close in the 900s, then I'll go long for the bubble. My bet is one of the ETFs will get approved but we're gonna drop before then
[2017-02-17 16:19:38] ThruTheFloor : Jason_: Use a VPN for signup
[2017-02-17 16:20:02] longbydefault : this market can be played in so many ways... that's why there are so many different opiinions...
[2017-02-17 16:20:16] longbydefault : we can all be right and all win eventually
[2017-02-17 16:20:21] Jason_ : I've never used a vpn before.
[2017-02-17 16:20:35] Jason_ : Except to work from home.
[2017-02-17 16:20:39] ThruTheFloor : Jason_: Tough titties, try not living in a third world country
[2017-02-17 16:20:46] Jason_ : lol
[2017-02-17 16:20:49] BTCDJS : lol
[2017-02-17 16:20:57] Jason_ : the usa is a 3rd world country.
[2017-02-17 16:20:58] BTCDJS : gotta go
[2017-02-17 16:21:34] abbey : seeya
[2017-02-17 16:21:35] rapidtrades : it's not a coincidence that bull is part of bulshit
[2017-02-17 16:22:07] rapidtrades : there's no bearshit for example
[2017-02-17 16:22:15] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: Bulls have been right during bubbles, question is if bubble started yet or next month
[2017-02-17 16:22:48] jung1 : or is it not over
[2017-02-17 16:23:01] Jason_ : What countries are serviced?
[2017-02-17 16:23:05] abbey : loads of bearshit we've seen here
[2017-02-17 16:23:19] j8 : Jason_: all except US i think
[2017-02-17 16:24:10] mutato : 1080 coming
[2017-02-17 16:24:16] y1uy : shorts in china getting squeezed
[2017-02-17 16:24:16] ThruTheFloor : jung1: True, I guess both ETF rejection, bad news from China, and xbtce hack, all together could crash us below 500 and put us in another year long bear cycle
[2017-02-17 16:24:18] jung1 : /price
[2017-02-17 16:24:18] trollbot : Bitstamp: 1059.00 (0.1%)
[2017-02-17 16:24:18] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1065.0 (0.45%)
[2017-02-17 16:24:18] trollbot : itBit: 1057.75 (0.15%)
[2017-02-17 16:24:18] trollbot : GDAX: 1058.8 (0.06%)
[2017-02-17 16:24:19] trollbot : OKCoin: 1048.23 (0.15%)
[2017-02-17 16:24:19] trollbot : Kraken: 1060.65 (0.07%)
[2017-02-17 16:24:27] Jason_ : Someone does not want US citizens to own bitcoins.
[2017-02-17 16:24:34] jung1 : ThruTheFloor: hope so
[2017-02-17 16:24:40] ThruTheFloor : Jason_: The IRS
[2017-02-17 16:24:43] rapidtrades : FOMO like there's no tomorrow!
[2017-02-17 16:24:56] bingbongfly : Rip just closed my long
[2017-02-17 16:24:59] jung1 : rapidtrades: didnt know that you are a rapper
[2017-02-17 16:25:10] longbydefault : thruthefloor... you are as bearish as the moon people are bullish
[2017-02-17 16:25:19] j8 : Jason_: apparently buying and selling bitcoins isn't a problem, but derivatives are
[2017-02-17 16:25:33] longbydefault : you say they're unreasonable but you're the same in the other direction
[2017-02-17 16:25:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 300 @ 1055.27
[2017-02-17 16:25:50] rapidtrades : /price
[2017-02-17 16:25:51] trollbot : itBit: 1059.01 (0.12%)
[2017-02-17 16:25:51] trollbot : Bitstamp: 1061.00 (0.19%)
[2017-02-17 16:25:51] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1064.5 (-0.05%)
[2017-02-17 16:25:51] trollbot : GDAX: 1059.69 (0.08%)
[2017-02-17 16:25:52] trollbot : Kraken: 1062.88 (0.21%)
[2017-02-17 16:25:52] trollbot : OKCoin: 1048.83 (0.06%)
[2017-02-17 16:26:37] rapidtrades : china is catching up
[2017-02-17 16:26:43] bartram : Woodchipper?
[2017-02-17 16:26:47] abbey : moonpeople have a good reason for their position
[2017-02-17 16:27:01] ThruTheFloor : longbydefault: No? I said I expect a small correction then a bubble. I said if literally everything goes wrong, then we'll have a repeat of last year. imo any one of the three individually would be a small setback not a crash at this point
[2017-02-17 16:27:01] y1uy : 1100 short squeeze target
[2017-02-17 16:27:04] abbey : doompeople dont
[2017-02-17 16:27:11] y1uy : if we get to 1100 we wont stop there
[2017-02-17 16:27:17] y1uy : we have plenty of fuel
[2017-02-17 16:27:41] longbydefault : thruthefloor: i was referring to a previous statement where you stacked all the negative events to point to a major crash
[2017-02-17 16:28:51] bingbongfly : now is the time to short
[2017-02-17 16:29:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 106 @ 1055.68
[2017-02-17 16:29:20] abbey : talks like crash below 500 are just stupid
[2017-02-17 16:29:33] cg : finex short squeeze imminent?
[2017-02-17 16:30:32] bingbongfly : full on fomo lol
[2017-02-17 16:30:36] y1uy : cg: theyre hurting
[2017-02-17 16:30:49] y1uy : cg: squeeze soon yea
[2017-02-17 16:30:50] y1uy : :D
[2017-02-17 16:30:54] crypt0-bear_ : Music to fomo with : https://soundcloud.com/crypt0bear/fomo
[2017-02-17 16:31:43] rapidtrades : premiums the last sign of a bullish market
[2017-02-17 16:31:47] carl : /price
[2017-02-17 16:31:48] trollbot : Bitstamp: 1059.48 (-0.14%)
[2017-02-17 16:31:48] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1065.3 (0.08%)
[2017-02-17 16:31:48] trollbot : itBit: 1062 (0.28%)
[2017-02-17 16:31:48] trollbot : Kraken: 1062.9 (0%)
[2017-02-17 16:31:48] trollbot : GDAX: 1059.6 (-0.01%)
[2017-02-17 16:31:51] trollbot : OKCoin: 1050.0 (0.11%)
[2017-02-17 16:31:55] carl : Mmmm ok
[2017-02-17 16:32:01] carl : I guess
[2017-02-17 16:32:07] sleger : rapidtrades: just like discount was the sign of the end of bearish right ;)
[2017-02-17 16:32:18] sleger : but you were saying the opposite then
[2017-02-17 16:32:19] 24hourz : etf getting approved would be insane
[2017-02-17 16:32:22] rapidtrades : sleger: it was for u
[2017-02-17 16:32:50] JT : $4000+ by end of March with ETF approval :)
[2017-02-17 16:32:59] ThruTheFloor : longbydefault: ETF rejection, bad news from China, and xbtce hack, all together could crash us below 500 and put us in another year long bear cycle
[2017-02-17 16:33:04] SpecialAgentThom : Jason, there is no restriction on owning bitcoins as long as they are registered and reported
[2017-02-17 16:33:13] rapidtrades : oh fosho @JT
[2017-02-17 16:33:26] ThruTheFloor : longbydefault: Thats what I said and I stand by it
[2017-02-17 16:34:20] ThruTheFloor : JT: And then back to ~$1000 shortly after
[2017-02-17 16:35:28] JT : ThruTheFloor: Maybe... but there would have to be some really bad news
[2017-02-17 16:35:42] longbydefault : and you would have already sold by then JT
[2017-02-17 16:35:48] longbydefault : before t
[2017-02-17 16:35:52] longbydefault : then
[2017-02-17 16:36:05] rapidtrades : bad news? coindesk.com
[2017-02-17 16:36:09] JT : longbydefault: Not entirely false.
[2017-02-17 16:36:12] rapidtrades : pick any lol
[2017-02-17 16:36:12] ThruTheFloor : JT: Eh, it's a bubble. Anything could send it down. We always go extremely high then right back down to where we started
[2017-02-17 16:36:25] ThruTheFloor : Last bubble was $100->$1000->$100
[2017-02-17 16:36:41] ThruTheFloor : This time $1000->$2-4000->$1000
[2017-02-17 16:36:43] JT : I would probably sell at 4k. But that decision is not based on where I think the market will go :)
[2017-02-17 16:36:59] longbydefault : what would you based it on JT
[2017-02-17 16:37:05] Yuppie : regrettfully I got out of OK march...now at premium
[2017-02-17 16:37:06] ThruTheFloor : JT: Unless it only reaches $3000 and youre left bagholding
[2017-02-17 16:37:17] ThruTheFloor : Last bubble everyone thought we were heading for $2500
[2017-02-17 16:37:40] j8 : Yuppie: they did their best to shake everyone out
[2017-02-17 16:37:52] rapidtrades : i think median forecast for 10,000 for 2014
[2017-02-17 16:38:08] Yuppie : worked with me...
[2017-02-17 16:38:22] Yuppie : still survived it thoigh
[2017-02-17 16:38:50] JT : Eh, who knows. I might just hold indefinitely. I'm only trading with a few percent of my holdings.
[2017-02-17 16:38:56] j8 : yeah i stopped out of part and managed to hold a good chunk. still wasn't pretty
[2017-02-17 16:40:05] MadDog : such price wow
[2017-02-17 16:40:12] Yuppie : this drop to $700 was insane
[2017-02-17 16:40:17] JT : Only way I lose any of my profit is if the price goes to 600
[2017-02-17 16:40:42] MadDog : I am in the same position JT, Always in profit, trading with nothing
[2017-02-17 16:42:03] longbydefault : /price
[2017-02-17 16:42:04] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1064.0 (-0.12%)
[2017-02-17 16:42:04] trollbot : itBit: 1060.96 (-0.1%)
[2017-02-17 16:42:04] trollbot : Bitstamp: 1058.40 (-0.1%)
[2017-02-17 16:42:04] trollbot : GDAX: 1059.99 (0.04%)
[2017-02-17 16:42:04] trollbot : Kraken: 1061.76 (-0.11%)
[2017-02-17 16:42:05] trollbot : OKCoin: 1049.6 (-0.04%)
[2017-02-17 16:42:14] Yuppie : China catchup is sweet
[2017-02-17 16:43:11] Yuppie : would have been a good opportunitiy here yesterday XBC
[2017-02-17 16:43:37] JT : Yuppie: I thought about it at 6800 but didn't pull the trigger :/
[2017-02-17 16:44:27] Yuppie : anyone using Wagecan?
[2017-02-17 16:48:34] ThatNiggerGuy : How much leverage should I be using? Planning on going long. Can I use 100x or are we gonna go down soon?
[2017-02-17 16:49:11] ThatNiggerGuy : Dont wanna go 100x long right before we head down to 1000 and I get SHREKT
[2017-02-17 16:50:06] rapidtrades : longterm no longs on leverage will survive
[2017-02-17 16:50:22] ThatNiggerGuy : rapidtrades: Why not?
[2017-02-17 16:50:40] longbydefault : try it out with a small amount then you'll see
[2017-02-17 16:50:44] ThatNiggerGuy : If this is the bottom before we head up to ATH I wont get margin called. But I'll be rolling in it
[2017-02-17 16:51:39] longbydefault : only way to find out is to try it out...
[2017-02-17 16:52:26] Sultan Pepper : ThatNiggerGuy: SHREKT involves a big *green* dildo
[2017-02-17 16:53:15] Sultan Pepper : ThatNi
[2017-02-17 16:53:20] Sultan Pepper : ggerGuy:
[2017-02-17 16:53:27] ThatNiggerGuy : longbydefault: I turned $300 into $900 like that a couple weeks ago. Just wondering if this is a good time to go ham with 5k like that
[2017-02-17 16:53:38] ThatNiggerGuy : Sultan Pepper: lol
[2017-02-17 16:54:05] longbydefault : hmmm... you could try to press your luck...
[2017-02-17 16:54:21] y1uy : ThatNiggerGuy: trading? id advise u not but if u wanna invest quick then yea
[2017-02-17 16:54:38] y1uy : ThatNiggerGuy: depends how long u been trading?
[2017-02-17 16:54:53] ThatNiggerGuy : A few months
[2017-02-17 16:55:04] longbydefault : nigger gets autocorrected? that's funny nobody woud be able to call you
[2017-02-17 16:55:10] ThatNiggerGuy : Mostly on btc-e, first time on margin
[2017-02-17 16:55:22] ThatNiggerGuy : longbydefault: Heh, worst part is I dont get notifications
[2017-02-17 16:55:59] cmwprice : What do you think will happen to price if etf isn't approved?
[2017-02-17 16:56:11] longbydefault : of course big profits are possible with 100x... but you could be wiped out just as easily... also it is hard to control your emotions when you are invested so heavily
[2017-02-17 16:56:29] ross : cmwprice: it will still moon because people will listen to the troll box
[2017-02-17 16:56:34] longbydefault : if 5k is only a small portion of your holdings then go ahead
[2017-02-17 16:56:52] longbydefault : but if it is all you have... i don't advise to go high leverage
[2017-02-17 16:57:16] cmwprice : Really? You don't think there would be an initial drop right after?
[2017-02-17 16:57:46] ThruTheFloor : cmwprice: My guess, small drop then more waiting for the next ETF
[2017-02-17 16:57:51] ThruTheFloor : We have 3 chances
[2017-02-17 16:57:58] rapidtrades : no it doesn't
[2017-02-17 16:57:59] ThruTheFloor : for moon liftoff
[2017-02-17 16:58:03] rapidtrades : its one and done
[2017-02-17 16:58:19] jung1 : what ETF have more chances? winklevoss or SolidX?
[2017-02-17 16:58:31] rapidtrades : there are no more chances
[2017-02-17 16:58:35] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: There are three different ETFs all waiting for approval on different dates
[2017-02-17 16:58:41] cmwprice : Yeah, I was thinking the same. What do you call small drop? 10, 15%?
[2017-02-17 16:58:53] rapidtrades : doesn't matter, they need a rule change to be approved
[2017-02-17 16:59:10] ThruTheFloor : First on Mar 11, next Mar 30
[2017-02-17 16:59:14] rapidtrades : under current rules bitcoin etf is impossible
[2017-02-17 16:59:29] ThruTheFloor : cmwprice: 800-900 probably, my guess from staring at the charts
[2017-02-17 16:59:51] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: And they can be silent for first two but change it for the last one
[2017-02-17 16:59:53] ThruTheFloor : Is possible
[2017-02-17 17:00:18] ThatNiggerGuy : longbydefault: s
[2017-02-17 17:00:19] longbydefault : small drop is 5%
[2017-02-17 17:00:26] jung1 : https://cointelegraph.com/news/nocks-gulden-drop-bitcoin-support-cite-bad-reputation-and-slow-transactions
[2017-02-17 17:00:33] ThatNiggerGuy : longbydefault: 5k s'all I got. How much leverage should I use?
[2017-02-17 17:00:36] cmwprice : Do you think the drop down to 800-900 will be sudden and then gradual increase back over 1000?
[2017-02-17 17:00:53] longbydefault : thatguy: 5x at the most... 10x is pushing it
[2017-02-17 17:00:58] ThruTheFloor : cmwprice: Something like that. That's what I'm betting on anyway
[2017-02-17 17:01:09] cmwprice : Seems logical
[2017-02-17 17:01:26] jung1 : ThruTheFloor: 3? which one is 3rd? winklevoss, SolidX and?
[2017-02-17 17:01:28] cmwprice : Do you think it's likely to be approved on 11th or not?
[2017-02-17 17:01:37] cmwprice : Winklevoss is 1st
[2017-02-17 17:01:52] longbydefault : thatguy: would probably advise for 3x actuallly...
[2017-02-17 17:02:12] ThruTheFloor : jung1: Barry Silber's BIT
[2017-02-17 17:02:31] jung1 : he is also? didnt know that
[2017-02-17 17:02:44] longbydefault : and don't buy it all in one trade... save half for buying the dip if it goes the other way
[2017-02-17 17:03:09] ThruTheFloor : jung1: Yessir, so we got three chances for moon. Seems like good odds to me.
[2017-02-17 17:03:38] abbey : ThruTheFloor: correct
[2017-02-17 17:03:39] rapidtrades : reading comprehension is not this chat's strong suit
[2017-02-17 17:04:30] rapidtrades : @sleger any comments about this level of stupidity?
[2017-02-17 17:04:35] ThatNiggerGuy : longbydefault: Cool, I appreciate the advice. Any other tips?
[2017-02-17 17:05:34] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: Maybe you don't. If SEC does not make a Bitcoin ETF happen on the 11th, it can still do so by the 30th
[2017-02-17 17:06:08] jung1 : /price
[2017-02-17 17:06:08] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1063.8 (-0.02%)
[2017-02-17 17:06:08] trollbot : itBit: 1061.06 (0.01%)
[2017-02-17 17:06:08] trollbot : GDAX: 1058.98 (-0.1%)
[2017-02-17 17:06:09] trollbot : Kraken: 1062.5 (0.07%)
[2017-02-17 17:06:10] trollbot : OKCoin: 1050.63 (0.1%)
[2017-02-17 17:07:23] longbydefault : thatguy: listen to the trollbox find out who's giving good advice... if it goes up a lot it should go down a bit... if it goes down a lot maybe it's a good time to buy... cut losses early
[2017-02-17 17:09:11] ThatNiggerGuy : longbydefault: Hmm, since we just went up a lot, shouldn't we go down a bit soon then? Should I wait for that?
[2017-02-17 17:09:23] longbydefault : i think you should wait for that
[2017-02-17 17:10:06] ThatNiggerGuy : It's hard to sift the good advice from the total bullshit, but you're advice is the best I've seen so far!
[2017-02-17 17:10:39] longbydefault : it's hard but just go here everyday and see who has a good track record
[2017-02-17 17:11:34] ThatCEOGuy : longbydefault: Do you have a list off the top of your head who's good to pay attention to and who I should just straight up ignore?
[2017-02-17 17:11:45] -_- : Good time to short
[2017-02-17 17:11:51] ThatCEOGuy : Woah, they just changed my name
[2017-02-17 17:11:58] ThatCEOGuy : lol
[2017-02-17 17:12:02] -_- : Nigger
[2017-02-17 17:12:23] ThatCEOGuy : At least I should get notifications now
[2017-02-17 17:12:25] MadDog : The government is spraying dried virii in the chemtrails, that's why everyone is sick. I keep tweeting Trump to stop the chemtrails
[2017-02-17 17:12:39] rapidtrades : lol
[2017-02-17 17:12:48] MadDog : They are spraying again today
[2017-02-17 17:13:01] MadDog : Damn illuminati
[2017-02-17 17:13:03] ThruTheFloor : MadDog: Has His Holy Majesty God Emperor Trump responded yet?
[2017-02-17 17:13:15] MadDog : No, but I pray to God to stop the Chemtrails
[2017-02-17 17:13:29] ThruTheFloor : MadDog: I'll pray with you, brother.
[2017-02-17 17:13:41] MadDog : The illuminati is so far entrenched into black ops by now it'll take a miracle to stop it
[2017-02-17 17:13:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 4158 @ 1056.44
[2017-02-17 17:14:06] -_- : Listen to me for i am most niggerest
[2017-02-17 17:14:09] MadDog : I'll be back later with more Conspiracy News by nOgAnOo
[2017-02-17 17:14:18] abbey : http://bitcoinist.com/bitcoin-mulvaney-budget-chief/
[2017-02-17 17:14:55] longbydefault : thatCEOguy: listen to REKT... if he's liquidating shorts then it's probably the top
[2017-02-17 17:15:07] longbydefault : if he's liquidating longs then it's time to buy
[2017-02-17 17:16:01] ThatCEOGuy : longbydefault: Hmm, so would it be a good idea to short now, then buy back later?
[2017-02-17 17:16:23] ThatCEOGuy : Around 1000 or so?
[2017-02-17 17:16:36] longbydefault : yeah... could be... just trade a few hundred contracts try it out
[2017-02-17 17:16:49] Brazilian Goat : Probably
[2017-02-17 17:16:51] longbydefault : if you are wrong and it goes up... then short a bit more at a higher price...
[2017-02-17 17:17:11] y1uy : 1.2k buy wall on okc
[2017-02-17 17:17:11] longbydefault : if it keeps going up and you think its not going to go down soon... cut your losses
[2017-02-17 17:17:30] Brazilian Goat : Or you could earn fees for the rest of ur life lol
[2017-02-17 17:17:35] ThatCEOGuy : longbydefault: But what if I short now, and it runs up to ATH.... what's a good time to cut my losses? What should I look for?
[2017-02-17 17:18:24] Brazilian Goat : 1200 = sell your house and buy btc
[2017-02-17 17:18:28] longbydefault : climbing up is usually slow
[2017-02-17 17:18:47] rapidtrades : all terrible advice
[2017-02-17 17:19:05] longbydefault : trade small and learn as you go
[2017-02-17 17:19:20] rapidtrades : +1
[2017-02-17 17:19:23] longbydefault : go bigger as you gain confidence
[2017-02-17 17:19:29] rapidtrades : -1
[2017-02-17 17:19:50] longbydefault : rapidtrades: why -1? hehe
[2017-02-17 17:23:12] longbydefault : thatceoguy: i think sleger, ugly_old_goat is pretty much respected all around... cryptokeeper was the only one to know about a drop a week ago...
[2017-02-17 17:24:02] elmorte : Oi, rapid's famous too
[2017-02-17 17:24:26] rapidtrades : wtf
[2017-02-17 17:24:45] elmorte : I know, the nerve
[2017-02-17 17:24:46] rapidtrades : goat just got here
[2017-02-17 17:24:56] elmorte : Shhh
[2017-02-17 17:25:27] rapidtrades : for the record, i don't respect goat at all
[2017-02-17 17:25:44] longbydefault : rapidtrades is another one... but don't confuse him with another rapid
[2017-02-17 17:25:54] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: for the record, i don't respect you at all
[2017-02-17 17:25:59] longbydefault : i don't know which one is which haha
[2017-02-17 17:26:24] elmorte : The lack of respect here is astonishing
[2017-02-17 17:26:38] elmorte : Y'all should know better
[2017-02-17 17:28:10] longbydefault : ive only been here since january... so i may not know the whole story
[2017-02-17 17:28:17] longbydefault : thatceoguy: ask elmorte
[2017-02-17 17:28:18] longbydefault : :)
[2017-02-17 17:28:46] elmorte : January 2017?
[2017-02-17 17:28:52] longbydefault : yes
[2017-02-17 17:28:56] elmorte : That's like two weeks ago
[2017-02-17 17:28:57] BTCDJS : Jung, Rapidtrades, J8, micmix, sleger, Rado, Laisee, Tesuo, and some others I cant think of now are the original OGs. THE REST OF YOU ARE ALL NOOBS AND VISITORS
[2017-02-17 17:29:07] longbydefault : around january 5?
[2017-02-17 17:29:21] elmorte : Morning or afternoon?
[2017-02-17 17:29:25] BTCDJS : YOU COME AND GO
[2017-02-17 17:29:46] elmorte : BTCDJS: needs bigger font
[2017-02-17 17:30:01] longbydefault : there you go... the complete list
[2017-02-17 17:30:37] Ahhere : BTCDJS: host with the most
[2017-02-17 17:30:47] ThatCEOGuy : longbydefault: @BTCDJS lol awesome, thanks guys
[2017-02-17 17:32:05] elmorte : Actually, you have the archive so you can see for yourself
[2017-02-17 17:32:39] herpinator : this is the best exchange for btc who else agrees?
[2017-02-17 17:33:22] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: whats OGs?
[2017-02-17 17:33:30] ThruTheFloor : herpinator: For everything but liquidity, yes
[2017-02-17 17:33:32] longbydefault : original gangsters
[2017-02-17 17:33:34] BTCDJS : Original Gangsters
[2017-02-17 17:33:44] Shaman : old grannys
[2017-02-17 17:33:47] ThruTheFloor : rapidtrades: Found the white guy
[2017-02-17 17:33:49] rapidtrades : ok
[2017-02-17 17:33:54] BTCDJS : You wanna know who is the best teacher here?
[2017-02-17 17:34:01] elmorte : 2014-11-24 12:22:54] laisee : alive @BTCDJS
[2017-02-17 17:34:16] elmorte : Eh, I tagged you by mistake
[2017-02-17 17:34:22] elmorte : On mobile
[2017-02-17 17:34:52] CutTheLosses : herpinator: which one? here?
[2017-02-17 17:35:36] BTCDJS : /price
[2017-02-17 17:35:37] trollbot : itBit: 1059.49 (-0.15%)
[2017-02-17 17:35:37] trollbot : Bitstamp: 1055.51 (-0.35%)
[2017-02-17 17:35:37] trollbot : Bitfinex: 1059.6 (-0.39%)
[2017-02-17 17:35:37] trollbot : GDAX: 1057.87 (-0.1%)
[2017-02-17 17:35:38] trollbot : Kraken: 1059.13 (-0.32%)
[2017-02-17 17:35:39] trollbot : OKCoin: 1050.89 (0.02%)
[2017-02-17 17:35:42] jung1 : BTCDJS: yes
[2017-02-17 17:35:52] amaru : unbelievable
[2017-02-17 17:35:55] BTCDJS : /sentiment
[2017-02-17 17:35:57] trollbot : Sell/Buy Ratio Sentiment Hourly: 41.12/58.88 Daily: 40.31/59.69 Weekly: 45.45/54.55 Monthly: 47.8/52.21
[2017-02-17 17:36:05] amaru : somebody do btc a drug test please
[2017-02-17 17:36:10] BTCDJS : jung1: ? about the teacher?
[2017-02-17 17:36:20] jung1 : yup
[2017-02-17 17:36:24] BTCDJS : jung1: Sleger
[2017-02-17 17:36:41] jung1 : agree,he know things
[2017-02-17 17:37:54] BTCDJS : He trolls you if you say stupid things
[2017-02-17 17:38:46] rapidtrades : sleger is prolly the best trader here but I've learned almost nothing from him tbh
[2017-02-17 17:39:01] rapidtrades : he's very cagey with his info
[2017-02-17 17:39:19] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: I know. It forces you to think about what hes saying
[2017-02-17 17:39:21] pitayita : question, if I do a short against BTC, it means we basically hold USD?
[2017-02-17 17:39:25] jung1 : IMO we should make some closed forum and keep there all usefull links, strategies, study cases etc
[2017-02-17 17:39:38] ubba : pitayita yeah
[2017-02-17 17:39:38] BTCDJS : If you say something wrong he calls you out but doesnt correct you
[2017-02-17 17:39:51] ubba : on 1x leverage
[2017-02-17 17:39:54] pitayita : yeah
[2017-02-17 17:39:57] BTCDJS : So you do the research yourself to see where you went wrong
[2017-02-17 17:40:11] pitayita : that perpetual swap thing is getting my head confused
[2017-02-17 17:40:16] pitayita : thanks ubba
[2017-02-17 17:40:32] MikeHunt : pitayita: careful with lvg
[2017-02-17 17:40:34] amaru : what would be a good entry guys? 1040s probably?
[2017-02-17 17:40:37] MikeHunt : the new index is rapey
[2017-02-17 17:41:02] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: what new index?
[2017-02-17 17:41:05] ubba : np
[2017-02-17 17:41:20] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: bitmex switch from kaiko to their own
[2017-02-17 17:41:27] MikeHunt : very rapey
[2017-02-17 17:41:34] BTCDJS : what???
[2017-02-17 17:41:36] ubba : oh really? when was this
[2017-02-17 17:41:38] jung1 : when?
[2017-02-17 17:41:40] rapidtrades : wat
[2017-02-17 17:41:43] MikeHunt : perp can drop $15+ in a flash crash
[2017-02-17 17:41:44] Tetsuo : whis
[2017-02-17 17:41:45] MikeHunt : liq ur balls
[2017-02-17 17:41:56] MikeHunt : i dunno wen but its recent
[2017-02-17 17:42:06] ThruTheFloor : jung1: Do it, I'll join
[2017-02-17 17:42:12] Tetsuo : plz mike
[2017-02-17 17:42:15] Tetsuo : stop bullshittin
[2017-02-17 17:42:19] ubba : oh shit hes right
[2017-02-17 17:42:35] MikeHunt : i got fucking liq-ed while pricew was over $10 away from actual price
[2017-02-17 17:42:36] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: So the price is based on us buying and selling? and not OKcoin and Stamp?
[2017-02-17 17:42:53] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: the mark price can be fucked by chipper
[2017-02-17 17:43:09] ubba : they removed all mention of kaiko
[2017-02-17 17:43:14] jung1 : where is the info about this?
[2017-02-17 17:43:16] MikeHunt : basically if there is a dump, woodchipper can pull it down real quickly
[2017-02-17 17:43:20] sleger : they replicate what the kaiko index was, so actually there is NO change
[2017-02-17 17:43:23] jung1 : As the XBTUSD swap contract is perpetual, there is no settlement. Marking for Unrealised PNL and Liquidation purposes are done according to the Fair Price Marking system with the reference Price Index being the Kaiko BitMEX Index.
[2017-02-17 17:43:29] jung1 : https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/XBT
[2017-02-17 17:43:46] MikeHunt : the real issue is chipper, not so much the change i think
[2017-02-17 17:44:02] rapidtrades : shut up Mike
[2017-02-17 17:44:15] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: y u mad?
[2017-02-17 17:44:19] j8 : it's the same index as before, just not coming from kaiko
[2017-02-17 17:44:37] j8 : okc.com and bitstamp, fifty fifty
[2017-02-17 17:45:01] Tetsuo : BTC-USD trades from OKCoin, Bitfinex and Bitstamp are included
[2017-02-17 17:45:07] Tetsuo : http://bitmex.kaiko.com/
[2017-02-17 17:45:13] MikeHunt : just be sure to leave at least $15 liq margin unless u wanna get raped
[2017-02-17 17:45:13] BTCDJS : But on which exchanges? Still 50% Stamp, 50% 0kcoln?
[2017-02-17 17:45:24] Tetsuo : shady move bitmex, changin the index without givin proper notification
[2017-02-17 17:45:32] BitMEX_Greg : The index is exactly the same as it was with Kaiko. Nothing has hanged
[2017-02-17 17:45:37] Tetsuo : oh ok, lol
[2017-02-17 17:45:39] BitMEX_Greg : changed*
[2017-02-17 17:45:54] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Greg: 50/50?
[2017-02-17 17:46:12] BitMEX_Greg : 50% okcoin usd, 50% bitstamp
[2017-02-17 17:46:26] BitMEX_Greg : Tetsuo: nothing has changed..
[2017-02-17 17:46:30] BTCDJS : *wipes brow*
[2017-02-17 17:46:33] amaru : yeah the problem is okcoin
[2017-02-17 17:46:43] BTCDJS : *gives Mike the finger*
[2017-02-17 17:47:00] MikeHunt : o.0
[2017-02-17 17:47:02] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: What you playing at fool?
[2017-02-17 17:47:13] Tetsuo : http://bitmex.kaiko.com/ why does it mention Bitfinex?
[2017-02-17 17:47:16] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: whats ur beef?
[2017-02-17 17:47:25] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: The index is the same
[2017-02-17 17:47:31] BTCDJS : Nothings changed
[2017-02-17 17:47:34] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: lol well the name changed
[2017-02-17 17:47:41] Tetsuo : Has anything changed? Is it the same?
[2017-02-17 17:47:55] ubba : they took out kaiko
[2017-02-17 17:48:17] ubba : and replaced it with (((kaiko)))
[2017-02-17 17:48:18] MikeHunt : point i was trying to make earlier is okc can bring mark down quickly
[2017-02-17 17:48:26] Tetsuo : good
[2017-02-17 17:48:46] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: Fck 0kcoln
[2017-02-17 17:48:54] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: +1
[2017-02-17 17:49:26] ubba : usd liquidity is shit on okc
[2017-02-17 17:49:29] amaru : BTCDJS: still relevant if used to calculate mark price lol
[2017-02-17 17:49:55] BTCDJS : Fck em
[2017-02-17 17:51:33] ubba : was it the hack that prompted bitmex to drop bitfinex?
[2017-02-17 17:51:37] ubba : from inde
[2017-02-17 17:51:39] ubba : x
[2017-02-17 17:51:45] Tetsuo : x
[2017-02-17 17:51:47] Tetsuo : y
[2017-02-17 17:51:49] Tetsuo : e
[2017-02-17 17:51:50] Tetsuo : s
[2017-02-17 17:51:50] amaru : probably
[2017-02-17 17:51:54] wurstgelee : its about time to fix the index price here...
[2017-02-17 17:51:59] elmorte : x1
[2017-02-17 17:52:12] wurstgelee : that random $40 drop earlier today was funny and great (to btfd) but still ridiculous
[2017-02-17 17:52:20] amaru : stamp lags a bit too
[2017-02-17 17:52:24] elmorte : Technically, they didn't change anything
[2017-02-17 17:52:38] elmorte : Or realistically, rather
[2017-02-17 17:52:38] wurstgelee : no, okc usd randomly moves 10-50 $ atm
[2017-02-17 17:52:40] wurstgelee : thats the prob
[2017-02-17 17:52:44] wurstgelee : because its 50% of the index
[2017-02-17 17:52:47] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: thats what got me earlier
[2017-02-17 17:53:15] wurstgelee : the index represents how much volume atm? 10% of total?
[2017-02-17 17:53:23] wurstgelee : if not less...
[2017-02-17 17:53:26] ubba : there should be a yuan perpetual swap
[2017-02-17 17:53:48] ubba : coulda made more yesterday longing cny
[2017-02-17 17:53:49] wurstgelee : xbj prepetual please ;)
[2017-02-17 17:53:54] wurstgelee : *perpetual
[2017-02-17 17:54:00] ubba : hehe
[2017-02-17 17:54:11] wurstgelee : bitflyer is our new master anyways...
[2017-02-17 17:54:14] elmorte : You'd have to pay funding on it
[2017-02-17 17:54:14] wurstgelee : as of now
[2017-02-17 17:54:20] jung1 : ThruTheFloor: I will do it
[2017-02-17 17:54:30] heheh lo : ready for the free fall?
[2017-02-17 17:54:40] wurstgelee : heheh lo: yep. closed lonmgs. shorts in place
[2017-02-17 17:54:41] wurstgelee : lets go
[2017-02-17 17:54:44] Tetsuo : do it
[2017-02-17 17:54:50] heheh lo : wurstgelee: we are ready
[2017-02-17 17:54:54] thomaskikansha : down for now/
[2017-02-17 17:54:55] wurstgelee : okc whale has closed how much now? 50%?
[2017-02-17 17:54:59] Tetsuo : Bitcoin u AIDS whore, u will drop
[2017-02-17 17:55:14] wurstgelee : it better does
[2017-02-17 17:55:21] heheh lo : Tetsuo: up too much for a while, need a recorrection
[2017-02-17 17:55:44] wurstgelee : okc #1 holder closed a fucking shitload today. thats more important than "going up too long" ;)
[2017-02-17 17:55:53] j8 : wurstgelee: more like 1/3
[2017-02-17 17:56:01] wurstgelee : yeah, still a shitload
[2017-02-17 17:56:05] Tetsuo : good
[2017-02-17 17:56:18] heheh lo : j8: the rest of the longs probably long term
[2017-02-17 17:56:20] ubba : wow thats like 33%
[2017-02-17 17:56:28] ubba : whoa
[2017-02-17 17:56:28] j8 : yep, and we still don't know if he bought it up or sold into strength
[2017-02-17 17:56:31] Tetsuo : sold to fresh meat @ a local top
[2017-02-17 17:56:46] wurstgelee : ubba: 33% of a shitload. makes it still a shitload
[2017-02-17 17:56:47] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-02-17 17:56:55] ubba : :P
[2017-02-17 17:56:57] rullwull : wait min 3-4 hours for correction to start, there ares still some buyers
[2017-02-17 17:57:04] wurstgelee : j8: you think he is covering shorts?
[2017-02-17 17:57:08] heheh lo : rullwull: +1