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[2015-11-11 05:15:36] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Here's the XBU guide
[2015-11-11 05:15:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/XBU
[2015-11-11 05:15:52] rapidtrades : well that sucks
[2015-11-11 05:17:09] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : XBU actually looks pretty liquid right now
[2015-11-11 05:17:22] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : You might try it before deciding it sucks, and remember nobody is forcing you to be here
[2015-11-11 05:17:53] rapidtrades : are u kidding...orderbook has 2900 on the buy side
[2015-11-11 05:18:18] rapidtrades : 2900 usd
[2015-11-11 05:19:41] nostdal.org : guys, don't fkin expire my session when i'm using it .. wtf
[2015-11-11 05:19:51] rapidtrades : when is support usually her
[2015-11-11 05:19:59] rapidtrades : *here
[2015-11-11 05:21:17] podizzler3000 : hey guys
[2015-11-11 05:21:49] podizzler3000 : took about 18 hours off did i miss anything
[2015-11-11 05:21:57] podizzler3000 : oh my god
[2015-11-11 05:22:01] podizzler3000 : balance .003btc
[2015-11-11 05:22:16] podizzler3000 : what.
[2015-11-11 05:23:26] cekseh : Sounds like something didn't go to plan.
[2015-11-11 05:25:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : podizzler3000: Ouch :( Sorry to hear that man. We had some pretty major dumpage
[2015-11-11 05:27:02] podizzler3000 : its all good i was betting on an extended pump with that order anyway. no regrets. back to swing trading i guess
[2015-11-11 05:27:03] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: It was more liquid when I looked. There isn't always someone making the market. Support will be here within a few hours I'm guessing
[2015-11-11 05:27:26] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : podizzler3000: Hope you can recover quickly
[2015-11-11 05:27:52] rapidtrades : it was a weird rally man...I lost most of my profits, that doesn't usually happen
[2015-11-11 05:28:19] rapidtrades : classic pump and dump...I thought we outgrew this shit
[2015-11-11 05:29:04] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : rapidtrades: That's a bummer. Only luck I've had today was with catching knives. It worked great but it took 100% concentration and was pretty sketchy
[2015-11-11 05:30:15] SnackyCoins : there is only one crash cycle
[2015-11-11 05:30:17] SnackyCoins : http://www.deerfriendly.com/_/rsrc/1399752273182/decline-of-deer-populations/Figure%203.jpg?height=261&width=400
[2015-11-11 05:30:46] rapidtrades : its still a nice chunk of change...but lost 70% of open profits
[2015-11-11 05:33:02] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: LOL
[2015-11-11 05:34:00] SnackyCoins : bitcoin just goes faster cause the market is smaller :)
[2015-11-11 05:34:17] SnackyCoins : altcoins do the same cycle, even faster
[2015-11-11 05:52:20] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : It appears OKCoin.cn is down
[2015-11-11 05:52:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : And back up
[2015-11-11 06:04:54] Murch : This looks like a juicy long
[2015-11-11 06:05:17] SnackyCoins : i agree
[2015-11-11 06:06:01] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Already grabbed my position :) How's it going?
[2015-11-11 06:06:21] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Nice nice, it's going alright. I've gotten very lucky today methinks hah.
[2015-11-11 06:07:00] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Haha me too. You made some good calls though. Give yourself a pat on the back
[2015-11-11 06:08:13] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Thanks bro :D *pats back*
[2015-11-11 06:08:30] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: There you go haha :)
[2015-11-11 06:08:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Refusing the urge to close position because I dn't think this is done
[2015-11-11 06:08:58] Murch : You've made like over a btc today haven't you?
[2015-11-11 06:09:05] Murch : That's facking insane
[2015-11-11 06:09:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: My realized PNL is .8716 right now. It will be 1 BTC at least when I close this position
[2015-11-11 06:09:58] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: that's how it's done in the hood.
[2015-11-11 06:10:06] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: :)
[2015-11-11 06:10:28] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : We'll see if BitMEX wants to refund me for my loss during exchange freeze earlier although I think it's unlikely
[2015-11-11 06:10:34] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I'd be up .1 more with that
[2015-11-11 06:11:17] Murch : Bitmex is pretty reasonable though so hopefully you'll get some back.
[2015-11-11 06:12:51] Murch : I'm thinking 230 is my target
[2015-11-11 06:12:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I'm guessing I will. If they're not wanting to do the full .1 BTC I'd probably ask for the cost of opening and closing the position including fees
[2015-11-11 06:12:59] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: 330?
[2015-11-11 06:13:09] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: that :P
[2015-11-11 06:13:23] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: That's what I'm thinking too but I'm not absolutely sure we'll make it
[2015-11-11 06:13:35] Murch : Yeah might be better to back off here
[2015-11-11 06:14:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Not sure yet. My super bullish target is a 350 retest but that's too far out right now to even talk about
[2015-11-11 06:14:50] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: yeah true and there will probably be better points to take profit before then regardless.
[2015-11-11 06:15:38] Murch : Or do you trail a stoploss or something?
[2015-11-11 06:16:09] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Hoping so. I'd like to see China set a new high above 2035 CNY if I'm going to think about the possibility of approaching 350 USD
[2015-11-11 06:16:12] Murch : Nah actually we're pretty similar we trade on gut a lot it seems like.
[2015-11-11 06:17:13] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Not sure that's a good thing but so far it's working ok haha
[2015-11-11 06:17:28] Murch : hahah word
[2015-11-11 06:18:00] Murch : This looks fairly bullish. Looking for dem penetrating green dildos.
[2015-11-11 06:18:19] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: lol
[2015-11-11 06:20:00] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Up goes Finex. Come on China!
[2015-11-11 06:21:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I'm out
[2015-11-11 06:21:50] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Wanted to take my profit and this is looking like a good temporary top
[2015-11-11 06:22:59] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 1.0212 Realized PNL :)
[2015-11-11 06:23:20] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Congrats!
[2015-11-11 06:23:28] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Thanks man!
[2015-11-11 06:23:49] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Sensible of you to jump out. I'm trying the sitting duck play.
[2015-11-11 06:24:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Good luck with that :)
[2015-11-11 06:24:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Time to withdraw again for me. I'm only 0.2539 BTC away from recovering totally from my early liquidation snafoos
[2015-11-11 06:25:40] SnackyCoins : cool :D
[2015-11-11 06:25:50] Murch : Sounds good, keeping the dream alive. You can definitely catch up by tomorrow!
[2015-11-11 06:26:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I think so, especially because I have more time to trade tomorrow, but I'm not going to force it
[2015-11-11 06:26:30] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Getting impatient will only hurt me
[2015-11-11 06:26:43] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Yep best to take things how they come rather than forcing it.
[2015-11-11 06:28:23] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: How's it going for you?
[2015-11-11 06:28:40] SnackyCoins : realized 2.24 on 24h
[2015-11-11 06:28:51] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Damn. Nicely done!
[2015-11-11 06:29:13] SnackyCoins : picked up another 1.75 on spot too :)
[2015-11-11 06:29:15] Murch : SnackyCoins: Damn that's fucking awesome. I'm guessing that's from the way down? ;)
[2015-11-11 06:29:19] SnackyCoins : yeah
[2015-11-11 06:29:42] Murch : Though this bounce has been decent
[2015-11-11 06:30:16] SnackyCoins : now i get to hang on to my nuts though this reversal
[2015-11-11 06:30:32] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Still short?
[2015-11-11 06:30:33] SnackyCoins : possible* reversal
[2015-11-11 06:30:35] SnackyCoins : nah
[2015-11-11 06:30:38] SnackyCoins : long actually
[2015-11-11 06:30:48] SnackyCoins : plus went all coin on spot
[2015-11-11 06:30:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Why hang on to your nuts?
[2015-11-11 06:31:16] SnackyCoins : cause i hate red PNL 8)
[2015-11-11 06:32:03] SnackyCoins : its looking good on the candles but i would like better sentiment data
[2015-11-11 06:32:18] SnackyCoins : but the sentiment trend is going the right way
[2015-11-11 06:32:24] SnackyCoins : (longs coming down)
[2015-11-11 06:32:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: "(@murch) longs coming down *nudge*"
[2015-11-11 06:33:11] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: GRAAAAA
[2015-11-11 06:33:48] Murch : it's okay it can mean something sometimes
[2015-11-11 06:33:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: lol
[2015-11-11 06:34:10] SnackyCoins : heh
[2015-11-11 06:34:13] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I was just joking about earlier when you two couldn't agree on the sentiment chart
[2015-11-11 06:34:33] Murch : :P
[2015-11-11 06:34:37] SnackyCoins : well we margin called a lot of them
[2015-11-11 06:34:48] SnackyCoins : now DPE on okc is like 50%
[2015-11-11 06:35:29] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Wow! I think I saw someone mention that in the /r/BitcoinMarkets daily thread. One day those people will realize there's a better system here I hope
[2015-11-11 06:36:07] SnackyCoins : yeah well my guess is this is a good chance to go clean those up
[2015-11-11 06:36:21] Murch : 50%...
[2015-11-11 06:36:26] SnackyCoins : yep
[2015-11-11 06:36:50] Murch : Everything is against you when you trade on one of those exchanges.
[2015-11-11 06:37:16] SnackyCoins : well
[2015-11-11 06:37:21] SnackyCoins : 2 days to go fix it
[2015-11-11 06:37:50] Murch : Had to close out there
[2015-11-11 06:37:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: By going up, yes? I would imagine that's in the exchanges interest to push for as it lets them keep more profits?
[2015-11-11 06:38:08] SnackyCoins : yeah plus their insurance fund
[2015-11-11 06:38:33] Murch : My timing is impeccable -_-
[2015-11-11 06:38:45] SnackyCoins : if it settles like it is now the insurance fund is -gone-
[2015-11-11 06:39:01] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Lol you think it's time to go back up?
[2015-11-11 06:39:09] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Yep. good points
[2015-11-11 06:39:34] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Maybe not. I do want to go to sleep though, so I'm not going to try to speculate on it
[2015-11-11 06:39:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Ok. You heading out now?
[2015-11-11 06:40:14] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Yep, good luck if you decide to head back into any trades :D
[2015-11-11 06:40:20] Murch : I'll cya later
[2015-11-11 06:40:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Thanks :) Cya later
[2015-11-11 06:40:50] Murch : SnackyCoins: gl on your trades too, cya man
[2015-11-11 06:40:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Long again already :p
[2015-11-11 06:40:56] SnackyCoins : seeya murch ;)
[2015-11-11 06:41:14] Murch : hahaha
[2015-11-11 07:02:41] podizzler3000 : damn cant break 2030
[2015-11-11 07:02:46] podizzler3000 : just like yesterday with 2500 lol
[2015-11-11 07:04:39] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : podizzler3000: Haha yep
[2015-11-11 07:05:33] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I'm out of my long
[2015-11-11 07:06:00] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Made .0008 BTC on it lol
[2015-11-11 07:15:25] laisee : spend it wisely ... IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb
[2015-11-11 07:17:50] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : laisee: I'm going to buy an M&M
[2015-11-11 07:18:46] laisee : cool. who says BTC doesn't pay.
[2015-11-11 07:19:19] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : laisee: Someone else. Maybe if I'm lucky on this trade I can buy *2* M&Ms
[2015-11-11 07:24:07] habibi : hey guys, i see miss some nice action over night
[2015-11-11 07:24:19] laisee : sure, and nice colors too ...
[2015-11-11 07:34:41] laisee : habibi> it's all over. Bitcoin is finished (again).
[2015-11-11 08:37:39] laisee : Bitfinex awakens. Perhaps trading engine has been fixed (again)
[2015-11-11 08:37:50] habibi : laisee: what was wrong?
[2015-11-11 08:38:00] habibi : anyway cheap premium here this morning
[2015-11-11 08:38:21] laisee : guessing ... but usually BFX has some issues when markets are fast.
[2015-11-11 08:38:49] laisee : consistent, in that way.
[2015-11-11 08:39:15] smagin07 : so how exactly does the pay out scheme work when I isolate my margin?
[2015-11-11 08:39:43] smagin07 : Say I have 50 shares and the XBT7D gains $10 and my margin is .15
[2015-11-11 08:40:12] smagin07 : And I'm long. I set my account to sell 50 shares at 535 after I bought at 525
[2015-11-11 08:40:31] habibi : order options->calculator
[2015-11-11 08:40:55] smagin07 : where's order options
[2015-11-11 08:40:56] smagin07 : ?
[2015-11-11 08:41:13] habibi : at order controls tab
[2015-11-11 08:41:35] habibi : back to 2130 now?
[2015-11-11 08:42:25] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : This is crazy
[2015-11-11 08:42:32] smagin07 : I don't even see order controls tab
[2015-11-11 08:42:55] smagin07 : ahh nvm got it
[2015-11-11 08:44:44] habibi : i already make a short map for u http://scr.hu/1xcl/m0t6c
[2015-11-11 08:45:02] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: LOL
[2015-11-11 08:48:02] smagin07 : hahaha easy enough!
[2015-11-11 08:48:05] smagin07 : thanks
[2015-11-11 08:48:14] smagin07 : but how come that doesn't take into account the margin?
[2015-11-11 08:48:15] habibi : np, u welcome :)
[2015-11-11 08:48:28] smagin07 : say I'm isolating my margin and its .2 xbt
[2015-11-11 08:59:22] smagin07 : anyone?
[2015-11-11 09:01:36] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : smagin07: What was your question again?
[2015-11-11 09:03:20] ethexio : what's with fullscreen trading view chart not updating?
[2015-11-11 09:04:17] smagin07 : say I've isolated my margin and it's .21
[2015-11-11 09:04:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : smagin07: Ok
[2015-11-11 09:04:38] smagin07 : I've bought 50 shares at 315.5 and say, hypothetically, cash out at 340
[2015-11-11 09:04:46] smagin07 : how are my profits calculated?
[2015-11-11 09:06:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : smagin07: (340-315.5)*.00001*50=.01225 BTC
[2015-11-11 09:06:20] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Before fees
[2015-11-11 09:06:27] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : More detail here https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/XBT
[2015-11-11 09:06:41] smagin07 : fuck yes, you're the man, thank you
[2015-11-11 09:09:01] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : No problem :) If you pay full fees on both sides for that you'll have .00001*50*.0005*(315.5+340)=about .0002 BTC less
[2015-11-11 09:10:49] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : smagin07: If you place limit orders that go into the orderbook and buy and sell that way you will take advantage of the 0% maker fees. Opening or closing into the book incurs the 0.05% fee
[2015-11-11 09:13:06] BitMEX_Wally : If the bid is 321 and you place a sell order with a limit higher than that you will not pay fees
[2015-11-11 09:13:22] BitMEX_Wally : If the ask is 322 and you place a buy oder with a limit lower than that you will not pay fees
[2015-11-11 09:15:06] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Wally: Good example, thanks :)
[2015-11-11 09:15:42] BitMEX_Wally : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Thank you for helping to welcome newcomers :)
[2015-11-11 09:16:06] billyboy402 : stop limit order , are they stop lost with market close ... or limit close
[2015-11-11 09:16:38] SnackyCoins : Hey wally is there a reason the coloring of the tape is done based on the direction of the last traded price and not the direction of the taker's order?
[2015-11-11 09:16:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : billyboy402: They set a limit order but if that's below or above the bid or ask respectively it will act like a market order for as much as can be filled
[2015-11-11 09:17:27] billyboy402 : also when you use oisilate margin , when you get maegin call , does your order get fill at market or at the index price . ?
[2015-11-11 09:22:19] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : billyboy402: Not sure. That's a question for @BitMEX_Wally
[2015-11-11 09:25:41] habibi : billyboy402: first liquidation price is the one u get liq price, if it doesnt get filled and market price is moving its getting readjusted with new price to stop system loss
[2015-11-11 09:25:47] habibi : sth like that :p but its my theory
[2015-11-11 09:33:19] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: Hi Wally! Is it possible to enable other BVOL indexes like .BVOL2H and .BVOL30M? I would like to have those.
[2015-11-11 09:41:51] smagin07 : thanks guys, super helpful
[2015-11-11 09:43:50] smagin07 : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: so how come the .21 isolated margin wasn't included in that calculation above?
[2015-11-11 09:44:07] smagin07 : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: smagin07: (340-315.5)*.00001*50=.01225 BTC
[2015-11-11 09:44:08] smagin07 : that one
[2015-11-11 09:44:39] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : smagin07: The amount of margin you use doesn't affect profit, except for if you reach liquidation of course haha
[2015-11-11 09:47:42] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : smagin07: There's a formula somewhere for liquidation price somewhere but I can't seem to find it. @BitMEX_Wally?
[2015-11-11 09:48:02] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : smagin07: Short version is the number of contracts determine profit and loss, not the amount of margin
[2015-11-11 09:48:30] BitMEX_Arthur : Hi
[2015-11-11 09:49:03] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/dynamicProfitEqualisation
[2015-11-11 09:49:08] BitMEX_Arthur : Read the section on Liquidations
[2015-11-11 09:49:34] BitMEX_Arthur : https://www.bitmex.com/app/futuresContractFormulas
[2015-11-11 09:49:40] BitMEX_Arthur : For futures formulas
[2015-11-11 09:50:20] ethexio : holy smokes
[2015-11-11 09:50:27] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : ethexio: What?
[2015-11-11 09:50:34] habibi : btw were there any security breach during yesterday system suspend?
[2015-11-11 09:51:36] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: No security breach
[2015-11-11 09:52:44] BitMEX_Wally : It was an internal audit that failed. Basically a trader managed to go bankrupt by a few Satoshis
[2015-11-11 09:53:35] BitMEX_Wally : The exchange was suspended for a few minutes while we checked
[2015-11-11 09:53:51] habibi : ah okey. btw contracts at numer of 1 doesnt have liq price
[2015-11-11 09:53:58] BitMEX_Wally : The underlying cause was a small rounding error in the calculation of exit commission
[2015-11-11 09:54:23] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: If you only have 1 contract and have isolate margin disabled then it's entirely possible you have enough margin for the price to go 0 and not be liquidated
[2015-11-11 09:54:31] BitMEX_Wally : Hence your liquidation price is 0 or -.--
[2015-11-11 09:56:11] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Wally: Ah a good old rounding error, interesting. Has that calculation been fixed?
[2015-11-11 09:56:34] habibi : so if 10k accounts would playing with 1 contract ;p?
[2015-11-11 09:57:39] kendang : good morning guys
[2015-11-11 09:57:46] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: Does not matter. Your liquidation price is calculated based on how much leverage your using. If I have 1 Bitcoin of margin I can go long 1 Bitcoin worth of contracts (i.e. 300 contracts at $333.00) and I will have a liquidation price of 0
[2015-11-11 09:57:47] habibi : hello
[2015-11-11 09:57:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : kendang: Good morning
[2015-11-11 09:58:34] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: ok, thought u dont calculate liq price at all for 1 contract at cross
[2015-11-11 09:58:57] BitMEX_Wally : :)
[2015-11-11 10:00:47] SnackyCoins : what do you guys think about coloring the recent trades based on the taker rather than the price's direction? :)
[2015-11-11 10:02:43] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Not sure. What is the purpose of coloring them that way?
[2015-11-11 10:03:04] SnackyCoins : more info
[2015-11-11 10:03:41] SnackyCoins : coloring it based on the direction of the market order
[2015-11-11 10:04:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: I see. I'm just trying to imagine a situation in which that info is beneficial. Wouldn't it also be available already by monitoring the API?
[2015-11-11 10:04:20] SnackyCoins : i can already tell if the price is going up or down :) don't need a color for that
[2015-11-11 10:04:23] SnackyCoins : perhaps
[2015-11-11 10:04:24] BitMEX_Wally : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: We publish it explicitly on the API
[2015-11-11 10:04:26] BitMEX_Wally : `tickDirection` is the price movement
[2015-11-11 10:04:35] BitMEX_Wally : `side` is `Buy` if the taker was a buyer
[2015-11-11 10:04:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Wally: Oh ok good to know!
[2015-11-11 10:05:42] SnackyCoins : It's easier to tell if we're getting a lot of buying or selling with that coloring
[2015-11-11 10:05:56] SnackyCoins : which could be useful, say lots of selling going on but price is holding
[2015-11-11 10:06:04] BitMEX_Wally : The colouring just follows the standard market practise on Reuters/Bloomberg etc
[2015-11-11 10:06:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Want a script that prints out the information you're looking for?
[2015-11-11 10:06:24] SnackyCoins : do you have it on a git?
[2015-11-11 10:06:29] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: I could
[2015-11-11 10:06:47] BitMEX_Wally : `wscat -c wss://www.bitmex.com/realtime/websocket?subscribe=trade:XBT24H`
[2015-11-11 10:06:53] BitMEX_Wally : `< {"table":"trade","action":"insert","data":[{"timestamp":"2015-11-11T10:06:37.020Z","symbol":"XBT24H","side":"Buy","size":1,"price":327.27,"tickDirection":"PlusTick","trdMatchID":"88b82a76-32fe-f439-4e4e-bc473112cd4c","grossValue":327270,"homeNotional":0.0032727,"foreignNotional":1.0710565289999998}]}`
[2015-11-11 10:07:36] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: It would show the same data in the ticker plus the direction of the taker in a nice format. Same as Wally's example but printed nicely
[2015-11-11 10:07:46] BitMEX_Wally : We even put the `trdMatchID` on the `trade` so you can match it with your `execution`
[2015-11-11 10:08:07] SnackyCoins : I need to write my own anyway 8)
[2015-11-11 10:08:09] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Wally: Very nice :)
[2015-11-11 10:08:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Ok cool. Just thought I'd offer. Easier task for me right now than trying to decipher the positions stream haha
[2015-11-11 10:10:23] BitMEX_Wally : Yes please create some tools
[2015-11-11 10:10:33] BitMEX_Wally : Then you can try out ideas for us to incorporate
[2015-11-11 10:11:32] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Wally: What kind of tools? I like making tools
[2015-11-11 10:14:02] BitMEX_Wally : An enhanced ticker for starters?
[2015-11-11 10:14:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Wally: I'm on it
[2015-11-11 10:15:43] SnackyCoins : i've been wanting to do it with a userscript but i only know jquery as far as frontend goes. was gonna make something that uses the displayed tblk price and changes all your P&L to usd
[2015-11-11 10:16:07] BitMEX_Wally : SnackyCoins: That's a good idea
[2015-11-11 10:16:25] BitMEX_Wally : Also you could do one that changes all `USD` prices into `CNY` at the daily PBOC rate.
[2015-11-11 10:16:27] SnackyCoins : ya but jquery libs not loaded ;)
[2015-11-11 10:16:28] BitMEX_Wally : For our Chinese users :)
[2015-11-11 10:16:42] SnackyCoins : can't, xss
[2015-11-11 10:17:18] SnackyCoins : cny price would have to come from bitmex.com somewhere :)
[2015-11-11 10:17:21] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah, we're very strict about security. Have a chat with BitMEX_Sam when he's one, he might have some ideas
[2015-11-11 10:17:34] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Good idea. I was thinking about showing a "real" PNL based on the cost of closing into the orderbook
[2015-11-11 10:17:54] SnackyCoins : Now THAT is neato
[2015-11-11 10:18:00] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: :)
[2015-11-11 10:18:10] habibi : bitfinex engine lagged again?
[2015-11-11 10:18:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: It does look very dead
[2015-11-11 10:18:45] habibi : bad, pump time
[2015-11-11 10:19:47] SnackyCoins : incoming upwards flash crash? 8)
[2015-11-11 10:19:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: lol sounds about right
[2015-11-11 10:20:09] billyboy402 : mental note dont ioslate margin , ur get fuck over with the market close
[2015-11-11 10:20:13] habibi : yea would be great active window/tab for entering closing position with pln calculated
[2015-11-11 10:21:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: Bitfinex is back. First move is to dump :p
[2015-11-11 10:22:56] billyboy402 : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: was bitfinex down ?
[2015-11-11 10:23:34] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : billyboy402: Not sure. It was at least frozen. Still doesn't seem totally fixed yet
[2015-11-11 10:24:01] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : billyboy402: Nvm maybe it's fixed. Can't tell
[2015-11-11 10:28:28] smagin07 : is there any way I can setup automatic purchase orders for tomorrows xbt24h?
[2015-11-11 10:29:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : smagin07: Not without a script of some sort. All orders are canceled upon expiry
[2015-11-11 10:29:15] smagin07 : shite
[2015-11-11 10:38:19] smagin07 : will the expiry ever have a minute/second countdown?
[2015-11-11 10:39:13] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : smagin07: It has a minute countdown once it's 30 minutes to expiry I believe
[2015-11-11 10:39:23] smagin07 : ahh okay cool
[2015-11-11 10:41:59] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : smagin07: XBT24H expires at 12:00 UTC each day as can be seen by clicking "Full Details..." or the expiry time, which now says "In an hour"
[2015-11-11 10:42:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : smagin07: Oh I just realized there's a countdown in the very upper right of the page as well
[2015-11-11 10:52:39] ethexio : prepare sharts
[2015-11-11 10:56:48] ethexio : prepared.
[2015-11-11 10:58:11] habibi : let id rain
[2015-11-11 10:58:31] habibi : it*
[2015-11-11 11:12:06] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: More like a light drizzle it seems
[2015-11-11 11:12:29] habibi : i hope so we wont go under 300
[2015-11-11 11:12:46] habibi : as long as we are above 315 its just a good healthy correction
[2015-11-11 11:13:05] habibi : but panic is panic :p who knows
[2015-11-11 11:13:25] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: Yep. Right now I'm not too concerned about 300
[2015-11-11 11:14:28] smagin07 : 300 won't last :P
[2015-11-11 11:15:06] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : smagin07: Haha we'll see
[2015-11-11 11:15:41] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: Were you here for amirmass going 50x short and losing his shirt?
[2015-11-11 11:21:28] habibi : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: u mean story when he was begging for donations ;p? or another one?
[2015-11-11 11:21:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Yep the guy who was begging for donations
[2015-11-11 11:22:18] habibi : yea remember that :)
[2015-11-11 11:22:22] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Think I found another one on Reddit who has been almost begging people to save his short lol
[2015-11-11 11:23:03] habibi : show :)
[2015-11-11 11:23:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : "All aboard the shorting train... we are leaving soonish... we expect to crash and burn..." 3 hours ago
[2015-11-11 11:23:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : "bears want the bulls to think that the bears have lost and buy all their shorts. Then they will dump it even lower..."
[2015-11-11 11:24:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : "ah the glorious bull trap is dissolving..."
[2015-11-11 11:24:36] habibi : 3 hours ago..which is 311-320, not that bad but still possible close it >320
[2015-11-11 11:24:40] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : "last chance to short before it goes under 300. all hands on deck!"
[2015-11-11 11:24:51] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : The last once I've posted are pretty much all right at the bottom
[2015-11-11 11:24:56] smagin07 : all hands here
[2015-11-11 11:25:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : "FOMO SHORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!" 9 hours ago
[2015-11-11 11:25:18] habibi : :D
[2015-11-11 11:25:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : This is a gold mine lol
[2015-11-11 11:26:08] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : "For those planning on shorting it might be a good idea to start at $320-300 and close at $250 or below for a cool $50-70 profit per coin." 5 hours ago
[2015-11-11 11:26:19] habibi : some people thinks they words/comments are so overpowered, but reality is diffrent :p
[2015-11-11 11:26:21] habibi : theirs*
[2015-11-11 11:27:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: Yep. I mean I feel bad for people who made a bad trade. I want everyone to succeed, but handling failure by getting worked up and trying to scare everyone else into saving your position instead of cutting your losses short I just can't understand.
[2015-11-11 11:27:49] smagin07 : I can, money brings out the weird in folks ;)
[2015-11-11 11:28:25] habibi : seems like red alerts
[2015-11-11 11:28:27] habibi : 2010
[2015-11-11 11:28:53] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: Agreed but this bounce seems to have legs too so I'm probably staying out
[2015-11-11 11:31:56] habibi : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: and u were extremly right
[2015-11-11 11:32:13] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: Lucky guess :)
[2015-11-11 11:32:53] habibi : https://twitter.com/kingscrownBTC/status/664261826276929536 pooor recomendation :p
[2015-11-11 11:33:06] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: There's certainly still the possibility of a good short position here but it'
[2015-11-11 11:33:20] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *it's likely longer term than I like to trade
[2015-11-11 11:34:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: Who would buy the domain name "fuk.io"? lol
[2015-11-11 11:35:57] habibi : :D a guy who tells people shit that u can win on dices and so. living from the referal comission :p
[2015-11-11 11:36:13] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: Haha that doesn't sound like a very high standard of living
[2015-11-11 11:37:49] habibi : http://bit.ly/1MKkku4 please dont treat it as a tutorial movie :p
[2015-11-11 11:40:31] ethexio : 20min, ripperonni
[2015-11-11 11:42:09] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I ahould know better than to take a position right before expiry. China up 1% and nothing moves here
[2015-11-11 11:43:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: Lol, that music, and then he market closes? wow
[2015-11-11 11:54:34] ethexio : Those bots..
[2015-11-11 11:56:08] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : ethexio: What bots?
[2015-11-11 11:57:34] ethexio : ,,,
[2015-11-11 11:58:00] ethexio : the ones that place 13 contracts 1 cent above yours
[2015-11-11 11:58:42] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : ethexio: Yeah that's sort of annoying, but it's fine. Ususally someone will take that and the one after it. I think it's someones MM bot they're testing with small amounts
[2015-11-11 11:59:31] ethexio : Of course
[2015-11-11 11:59:38] ethexio : 20sec.
[2015-11-11 11:59:42] ethexio : dumpit
[2015-11-11 12:03:18] oto_ : hello
[2015-11-11 12:03:27] oto_ : what's does Settlement means under a trade?
[2015-11-11 12:03:35] oto_ : margin called?!!
[2015-11-11 12:04:13] habibi : closing all markets opened positions at fixed price
[2015-11-11 12:04:29] ethexio : settlement of contracts
[2015-11-11 12:04:53] oto_ : i didn't touch the position, it closed by itself
[2015-11-11 12:05:02] oto_ : what does that means?
[2015-11-11 12:05:13] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : oto_: Yes, that happens every 24 hours at 12 UTC for XBT24H
[2015-11-11 12:05:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : https://www.bitmex.com/app/lesson4
[2015-11-11 12:05:44] oto_ : wow!
[2015-11-11 12:08:04] oto_ : u should send us an email reminder
[2015-11-11 12:11:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : oto_: It happens every day. Probably something to be aware of before trading
[2015-11-11 12:11:50] habibi : thats the nature of futures
[2015-11-11 12:35:33] floopfloop : oto_: yeah, how about not
[2015-11-11 12:36:45] sleger : oto_: set yourself a reminder on your phone, repeat every day...
[2015-11-11 12:37:43] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : @floopfloop @sleger hello
[2015-11-11 12:58:26] habibi : margin calls are the best market makers :D
[2015-11-11 12:58:36] sleger : lol
[2015-11-11 13:40:24] sleger : how do I disable notifications from bitmex on chrome ?
[2015-11-11 13:41:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: What OS?
[2015-11-11 13:41:31] sleger : win 7
[2015-11-11 13:42:17] roymalmberg : BitMEX_Wally: how come my withdrawal didnt execute?
[2015-11-11 13:47:34] sleger : found how to disable
[2015-11-11 13:51:53] jung1 : roymalmberg: withrawals are 2 times per day
[2015-11-11 13:52:21] roymalmberg : jung1: yes, but i got the money back
[2015-11-11 13:52:37] TschavaTschigger : roymalmberg: you probably didnt confirm the email
[2015-11-11 13:52:50] roymalmberg : TschavaTschigger: bingo, thanks
[2015-11-11 13:53:01] TschavaTschigger : same thing happened to me recently
[2015-11-11 13:53:09] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : TschavaTschigger:
[2015-11-11 13:53:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Me too
[2015-11-11 13:53:14] sleger : roymalmberg: are they 2 times per day ? I thought it was only once one hour after settlement
[2015-11-11 13:53:35] TschavaTschigger : it's only once, 13:00 UTC
[2015-11-11 13:53:43] roymalmberg : sleger: agree
[2015-11-11 13:56:18] jung1 : ok my bad
[2015-11-11 14:11:32] jung1 : ging down?
[2015-11-11 14:13:33] BitMEX_Wally : jung1: Withdrawals are once a day at 13:00 UTC. But sometimes we might process some early
[2015-11-11 14:17:47] habibi : nice trap?
[2015-11-11 14:19:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: What kind of trap is the question. What do you think?
[2015-11-11 14:20:45] podizzler3k : probably gonna go sideways today
[2015-11-11 14:20:54] podizzler3k : id look for opportunities in eth or ltc
[2015-11-11 14:23:47] habibi : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: bear trap i think
[2015-11-11 14:24:08] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: That would be nice
[2015-11-11 14:25:11] jung1 : btc is amazing. doubled price and go back to previous level in 3 weeks
[2015-11-11 14:35:18] TschavaTschigger : jung1: thats why we love the coin
[2015-11-11 14:36:11] jung1 : someones bot get craz
[2015-11-11 14:36:17] jung1 : crazy
[2015-11-11 14:36:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : jung1: I saw that. Couldn't tell if it was intentional or not
[2015-11-11 14:40:09] jung1 : ehh 300 in this week
[2015-11-11 14:41:35] habibi : jung1: maybe in hours ;p
[2015-11-11 14:42:09] habibi : hour?
[2015-11-11 14:42:10] jung1 : I though that we go to300 in 2-3 weeks
[2015-11-11 14:42:18] jung1 : but its fine
[2015-11-11 14:42:26] jung1 : im short since 321
[2015-11-11 14:42:32] TschavaTschigger : dumping hard
[2015-11-11 14:42:34] TschavaTschigger : wow
[2015-11-11 14:42:50] TschavaTschigger : 300 in like 3 hours max
[2015-11-11 14:42:53] jung1 : so let it fall
[2015-11-11 14:46:02] jung1 : funny
[2015-11-11 14:46:19] jung1 : almost same scenerio like with ltc ponzi
[2015-11-11 14:46:33] nickhnt : 275 first target
[2015-11-11 14:47:00] nickhnt : if it breaks then 240-250
[2015-11-11 14:47:17] nickhnt : but lets see if 300 holds
[2015-11-11 14:47:31] jung1 : 300 will be psychological barier
[2015-11-11 14:55:24] jung1 : bitmex has onl 287 users now?
[2015-11-11 14:55:40] kendang : jung1: seems like it
[2015-11-11 14:56:06] jung1 : so theres a lot of whales if we generate so huge volume
[2015-11-11 14:56:12] nickhnt : yeah better than i thought
[2015-11-11 14:56:21] nickhnt : thouth there it was 50 user max lol
[2015-11-11 14:56:29] nickhnt : thought*
[2015-11-11 14:56:43] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: users are also bots? or excluding bots?
[2015-11-11 14:57:44] BitMEX_Wally : Not sure, let me ask Sam
[2015-11-11 14:58:13] billyboy402 : be great if it could have some limit trailing stops
[2015-11-11 14:59:12] kendang : billyboy402: i second that
[2015-11-11 14:59:15] BitMEX_Sam : habibi: They're separate
[2015-11-11 14:59:27] BitMEX_Sam : That's people currenty online
[2015-11-11 14:59:30] BitMEX_Sam : currently*
[2015-11-11 14:59:35] kendang : BitMEX_Sam: are some more advanced order types in the pipeline?
[2015-11-11 14:59:39] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: ok, ty
[2015-11-11 14:59:41] BitMEX_Sam : kendang: Yes
[2015-11-11 15:00:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: How are the number of bots measured?
[2015-11-11 15:00:45] BitMEX_Sam : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: By the number of processes connected directly to the websocket, as opposed to through the gateway the website uses
[2015-11-11 15:01:02] BitMEX_Sam : It's an inexact measurement of course but a good approximation
[2015-11-11 15:01:03] kendang : i saw people here posting the join link with their referral . how do i get my link and how much do i get for referring someone?
[2015-11-11 15:01:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: Cool, that was my guess :)
[2015-11-11 15:01:15] BitMEX_Sam : kendang: See https://www.bitmex.com/app/affiliates for more info
[2015-11-11 15:01:43] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: any plans to place orders through websocket?
[2015-11-11 15:01:51] jung1 : kendang: here is your. I generated for you
[2015-11-11 15:02:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : jung1: lol
[2015-11-11 15:02:08] jung1 : /register/CunK1W
[2015-11-11 15:02:18] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : It's a trick
[2015-11-11 15:02:24] jung1 : no
[2015-11-11 15:02:27] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : kendang: go to https://www.bitmex.com/app/affiliates
[2015-11-11 15:02:28] BitMEX_Sam : TschavaTschigger: No, at least not for a long time - http's request/response semantics would have to be duplicated over WS and I don't believe it's worth the time
[2015-11-11 15:02:33] jung1 : 100% legit
[2015-11-11 15:02:34] BitMEX_Sam : You'll get the same latency if you use keep-alive
[2015-11-11 15:02:43] kendang : jung1: nice try
[2015-11-11 15:04:03] kendang : what do you guys think about bitgold.com?
[2015-11-11 15:04:17] kendang : i have some gold there but dont trust it 100%
[2015-11-11 15:04:50] jung1 : have also
[2015-11-11 15:05:09] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : "Gold Bullion is the century's best performing currency" Don't think so. That would be bitcoin
[2015-11-11 15:05:28] jung1 : finex is dumping
[2015-11-11 15:06:25] habibi : coz of hobi
[2015-11-11 15:14:36] TschavaTschigger : 2 hours ago I said "300 in 3 hours"... one more hour
[2015-11-11 15:15:48] jung1 : yeah
[2015-11-11 15:16:01] jung1 : Im short since 321
[2015-11-11 15:16:19] jung1 : 356% so far
[2015-11-11 15:16:26] jung1 : will keep it a bit
[2015-11-11 15:16:26] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : jung1: Wow. Very nice
[2015-11-11 15:16:36] BitMEX_Sam : 100x leads to some pretty absurd ROE
[2015-11-11 15:19:04] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: how do I make keep-alive requests? I just add "Connection: keep-alive" as a header param?
[2015-11-11 15:19:12] BitMEX_Sam : TschavaTschigger: Yep
[2015-11-11 15:19:19] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: thanks.. true @ roe btw :D
[2015-11-11 15:19:28] BitMEX_Sam : Depends on your http library's support for it
[2015-11-11 15:19:30] BitMEX_Sam : What are you using?
[2015-11-11 15:24:47] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: really, it depends on the library? why would adding headers have something to do with the library? i am using jersey for java
[2015-11-11 15:25:11] BitMEX_Sam : TschavaTschigger: Because just adding the header doesn't keep the connection alive, it's just text... the http library has to understand what keep-alive means
[2015-11-11 15:25:27] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: well that makes sense
[2015-11-11 15:29:26] podizzler3k : yeah tell me about it i was +80% and about to take profit took a pissnow im -80%
[2015-11-11 15:29:28] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: ok it is supported by default. will try to change it. although my bot is super-gentle anyway. thanks for info
[2015-11-11 15:29:41] BitMEX_Sam : Cool. Thanks
[2015-11-11 15:29:42] podizzler3k : looks like my youngins are having ramen noodles for dinner again
[2015-11-11 15:29:47] BitMEX_Sam : The big win is in not renegotiating HTTPS
[2015-11-11 15:39:32] j8 : some massive unfilled liquidations on okc quarterly
[2015-11-11 15:39:53] habibi : link?
[2015-11-11 15:40:13] j8 : https://www.okcoin.com/future/blastingRecord.do
[2015-11-11 15:40:30] j8 : https://www.`okcoin`.com/future/blastingRecord.do
[2015-11-11 15:40:37] j8 : dangit
[2015-11-11 15:40:42] j8 : you get the idea
[2015-11-11 15:41:06] habibi : j8: only for logged?
[2015-11-11 15:41:14] j8 : mm maybe
[2015-11-11 15:41:26] podizzler3k : what is an unfilled liquidation
[2015-11-11 15:41:36] podizzler3k : i never understood that
[2015-11-11 15:41:46] podizzler3k : are they liquidated or not
[2015-11-11 15:41:52] cekseh : liquidations that are still in the order book, unfilled
[2015-11-11 15:42:01] cekseh : turned into socialized losses at time of settlement
[2015-11-11 15:43:54] j8 : http://imgur.com/WEXoQG4
[2015-11-11 15:44:40] j8 : that's over 3000 btc of losses at current market price
[2015-11-11 15:45:16] habibi : http://scr.hu/9xvi/y7e78 last line is lost in btc?
[2015-11-11 15:45:46] j8 : yes, that number changes depending where the market is
[2015-11-11 15:45:47] HotDogs : This due to the LTC fiasco?
[2015-11-11 15:46:28] podizzler3k : an unfilled liquidation the person still is margin called just the same right?
[2015-11-11 15:46:40] podizzler3k : except the unfilled balance goes to a haircut
[2015-11-11 15:48:56] j8 : HotDogs: unrelated, the quarterly just crashed extra hard.
[2015-11-11 15:50:44] j8 : podizzler3k: right, if its your liquidation it doesn't matter to you if it's filled. your liability is over
[2015-11-11 15:51:32] j8 : it matters to anyone that made a profit on the contract, but especially hedgers
[2015-11-11 15:51:44] TschavaTschigger : wow
[2015-11-11 15:53:23] podizzler3k : btc back on the struggle bus
[2015-11-11 15:54:03] jung1 : fine for me
[2015-11-11 15:54:16] habibi : now finex has premium :D
[2015-11-11 15:57:02] jung1 : keep an eye on ltc, eth and bitshares
[2015-11-11 15:57:20] habibi : keep eye on btc ^^
[2015-11-11 15:58:07] jung1 : yeah but I thnk It will be quite stable around 300 in next 2 months
[2015-11-11 15:59:04] jung1 : so if someone get addicted of wild ride
[2015-11-11 15:59:13] jung1 : altcoin margin is perect
[2015-11-11 16:00:07] podizzler3k : remember when btc was $326 at finex
[2015-11-11 16:00:09] podizzler3k : so long ago
[2015-11-11 16:00:10] podizzler3k : 15 minutes
[2015-11-11 16:04:45] jung1 : but could be also another scenerio of this rie. If someone realizethat bitcoin price could be easly manipulated likeMMM
[2015-11-11 16:05:06] jung1 : another ride could be quite soon
[2015-11-11 16:05:10] jung1 : and much bigger
[2015-11-11 16:17:46] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Glad I got my knife catching out of me earlier because there are no bounces here
[2015-11-11 16:19:35] habibi : there are but diffrents ones style then days before
[2015-11-11 16:22:03] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Not sure what to make of Finex. No selling, no buying
[2015-11-11 16:22:18] Swedishnut : midweek madness :)
[2015-11-11 16:22:28] irbbqu : Seems like it's back to good ol' china/finex relationship
[2015-11-11 16:22:31] irbbqu : Pretty ridic
[2015-11-11 16:23:03] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : irbbqu:
[2015-11-11 16:23:03] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : i
[2015-11-11 16:23:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : It's a toxic relationship
[2015-11-11 16:23:27] habibi : finex dont move until some bigger poits are broken