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[2015-11-11 01:31:21] laisee : using BTC signals or looking a order books?
[2015-11-11 01:31:33] sleger : posting 500 orders now, 300 before
[2015-11-11 01:31:39] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: Why don't you tell us your whole strategy because you love us? ;)
[2015-11-11 01:31:58] micmix : sleger, BitMEX_Sam: I never had problems detecting disconnect or reconnecting. I'm using frequent heartbeats and drop connection manually right away if needed
[2015-11-11 01:31:59] sleger : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: i would love to
[2015-11-11 01:32:03] laisee : yes, we pomise not to tell anyone
[2015-11-11 01:32:06] AbuAli : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: why dont he just sell the bot :D
[2015-11-11 01:32:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : laisee: lol
[2015-11-11 01:32:07] sleger : but dont want to spam the chat box
[2015-11-11 01:32:23] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: You're serious? :p
[2015-11-11 01:32:30] sleger : micmix: thanks, yes i need to dig into what happened yesterday
[2015-11-11 01:33:04] sleger : AbuAli: if someone wants to sell you a bot, my best advise ever:
[2015-11-11 01:33:05] sleger : dont buy it
[2015-11-11 01:33:49] laisee : ... don't find a fat duck in middle of busy street ... as they say
[2015-11-11 01:34:16] AbuAli : umm
[2015-11-11 01:34:20] sleger : yes, I'l sell you my bot when I know it doesnt work anymore
[2015-11-11 01:34:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: Solid advice. If somebody's strategy is making them money they're not going to sell it
[2015-11-11 01:34:41] AbuAli : you can sell the code but not the algo ?
[2015-11-11 01:35:03] sleger : I have 4 digit btc holdings so if I need to I can put more in the bot rather than sell it
[2015-11-11 01:35:14] sleger : AbuAli: what's the difference ?
[2015-11-11 01:35:42] AbuAli : sleger: so i dont have to code from scratch lol
[2015-11-11 01:36:10] sleger : I'll help you get started of course...
[2015-11-11 01:36:17] AbuAli : the python MM sucks :S
[2015-11-11 01:36:33] laisee : \Abu> can find many algo famewoks on gitthub
[2015-11-11 01:36:45] laisee : feeeeee ...
[2015-11-11 01:37:03] sleger : int main(int argc,char *argv[]){
[2015-11-11 01:37:06] sleger : there you go
[2015-11-11 01:37:46] AbuAli : sleger: lol haahaha
[2015-11-11 01:38:05] laisee : add one line ... import andom.
[2015-11-11 01:38:07] sleger : AbuAli: the MM sample code is actually very nicely written I found
[2015-11-11 01:38:10] micmix : No one will sell you good working algo, it just doesn't make any financial sense. When algo is public it will stop working very soon, someone will take advantage of it. We have an algo called buldozer that's designed to take advantage of naive market makers, you can see it on OKC sometimes
[2015-11-11 01:39:04] AbuAli : i understand
[2015-11-11 01:40:12] sleger : micmix: did you say who you work for ?
[2015-11-11 01:40:36] micmix : sleger: nope
[2015-11-11 01:40:57] sleger : ok no worries, are you an employee or independant devcontractor
[2015-11-11 01:41:20] laisee : Abu> just study market, find some pattern and code for that. don't copy other algo code u dont understand
[2015-11-11 01:41:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I wonder if it would be possible to make a bulldozer for BitMEX's MM sample
[2015-11-11 01:41:57] gustavo7 : i threw away my daily profits to sell out my long at the top an hour ago, so angry
[2015-11-11 01:42:18] micmix : sleger: let just say I'm a system guy in a small trading group
[2015-11-11 01:42:25] sleger : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: well i guess micmix is gonna do it
[2015-11-11 01:42:34] sleger : micmix: but can you work elsewhere?
[2015-11-11 01:42:49] micmix : yes
[2015-11-11 01:43:36] sleger : you dev in what ? python?
[2015-11-11 01:44:26] micmix : node.js and C#, our quants use R and F#
[2015-11-11 01:45:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: You use Python? That's what I'm using right now. Considered Go but Python seems sufficiently quick
[2015-11-11 01:45:32] sleger : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: for btc related stuff, python, done well, is 100000x more than enough
[2015-11-11 01:45:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: That's what I figured. This isn't the NYSE or anything haha
[2015-11-11 01:45:55] sleger : micmix: hmm not really my cup of tea though...
[2015-11-11 01:46:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : No need to slow myself down with lower level code
[2015-11-11 01:46:18] sleger : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: dont underestimate python, done well, it is very very fast
[2015-11-11 01:46:30] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: Yep :)
[2015-11-11 01:46:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I should read up on Python performance tricks
[2015-11-11 01:46:48] micmix : programming language doesn't really matter, just use whatever you are comfortable with
[2015-11-11 01:47:11] micmix : Python has very good stat libraries you can use
[2015-11-11 01:47:22] sleger : well, they have specifics, like c# you will be stuck with windows, and that is a big constraint
[2015-11-11 01:48:05] sleger : python on linux can be faster than c# on windows for certain scenarios, actually a lot of them
[2015-11-11 01:49:02] micmix : no, our C# system is multi-platform, runs on Linux using mono as well as on Windows. Main reason for C# is easy interoperability with F# that quants use
[2015-11-11 01:49:20] sleger : yes but c# on linux kills a lot of performance
[2015-11-11 01:50:20] sleger : C# wasnt made to work on windows, they should use java then, java is almost c#
[2015-11-11 01:51:43] micmix : Interop between Java and F#? No thanks, I'm not writing that :-)
[2015-11-11 01:52:14] sleger : hmm no i meant if you write code that compiles in c#, porting to java is easy
[2015-11-11 01:52:35] sleger : i dont know much about f# sorry if there's a trick i dont know there
[2015-11-11 01:52:46] sleger : but running c# on linux, not the best idea
[2015-11-11 01:52:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 1 hour-6 hour so oversold it's not even funny
[2015-11-11 01:54:14] gustavo7 : damn son
[2015-11-11 01:54:39] SnackyCoins : http://i.imgur.com/oSOciPg.jpg
[2015-11-11 01:54:50] micmix : F# is a functional language popular in finance, similar to Haskell and OCaml
[2015-11-11 01:54:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : lol @SnackyCoins
[2015-11-11 01:55:10] gustavo7 : good old bitcoin
[2015-11-11 01:55:41] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I <3 catching knives
[2015-11-11 01:55:51] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I love catching knives
[2015-11-11 01:56:06] sleger : micmix: it's not that popular, I kind of know what it is, but dont know anyone using it, R yes maybe
[2015-11-11 01:57:25] micmix : sleger: well our quants had lots of code in F# so we had to support it
[2015-11-11 01:57:36] babybaby : BTC will be down
[2015-11-11 01:57:44] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Damn. Just fat fingered my order and was eaten alive by fees and market makers
[2015-11-11 01:58:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Had profit if I didn't mess that up. I need a bot to make orders for me
[2015-11-11 01:58:24] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: fuuuck man I feel your pain
[2015-11-11 01:58:43] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Yeahhh. Still have good profit for the day but fat fingers are always a bummer
[2015-11-11 01:58:46] Murch : I lost over 100 points closing some contracts at the lowest ask on the quarterly
[2015-11-11 01:58:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Ouch
[2015-11-11 01:59:07] Murch : That was earlier when I was talking about fat fingering it
[2015-11-11 01:59:13] babybaby : what ya guys think of casinos and sports betting ie http://fuk.io/best-sites-to-gamble-btc-online-sports-poker-dice-betting-casinos/ ?
[2015-11-11 01:59:18] gustavo7 : looks like there is a knife in my hand
[2015-11-11 01:59:18] Murch : I did manage to get the other half out at about 425 though at least
[2015-11-11 02:00:01] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Knife catching target 315?
[2015-11-11 02:00:34] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 320? Idk
[2015-11-11 02:01:10] Murch : do we bounce off 2000?
[2015-11-11 02:01:53] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I have no clue man. This is crazy
[2015-11-11 02:02:02] Murch : BTCE is higher than China. Now I've seen it all...
[2015-11-11 02:02:31] cekseh : 75% long on okc
[2015-11-11 02:02:45] SnackyCoins : rip in peace
[2015-11-11 02:03:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I'm long again
[2015-11-11 02:03:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Hopefully I caught the knife
[2015-11-11 02:03:18] Murch : me too
[2015-11-11 02:04:13] SnackyCoins : trading against the trend takes balls for sure
[2015-11-11 02:04:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Just dropped 5% in 15 min!
[2015-11-11 02:04:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Damn
[2015-11-11 02:04:57] SnackyCoins : books nice and thick on 24h
[2015-11-11 02:05:13] Murch : SnackyCoins: I made 10 points on that long you were advising me against before
[2015-11-11 02:05:14] SnackyCoins : (for bitmex 8) )
[2015-11-11 02:05:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Yeah it's looking great
[2015-11-11 02:05:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : lol
[2015-11-11 02:05:30] SnackyCoins : good for you murch my short is up 836%
[2015-11-11 02:05:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : This is scary. Where are the buyers?
[2015-11-11 02:05:59] Murch : Good for you, the point is you can still make money playing a bounce
[2015-11-11 02:06:13] SnackyCoins : of course you can, the risk/reward is just terrible
[2015-11-11 02:06:20] Murch : not always
[2015-11-11 02:06:22] Murch : I'm out
[2015-11-11 02:06:33] Murch : But here's the thing, I got out at the price I got in, so I lost nothing
[2015-11-11 02:06:45] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I'm hanging on for a moment
[2015-11-11 02:06:58] SnackyCoins : That's def the way to do it, and eventually one of these dips will be the bottom
[2015-11-11 02:07:01] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: good luck! :D
[2015-11-11 02:07:02] gustavo7 : no sleep
[2015-11-11 02:07:06] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Thanks!
[2015-11-11 02:07:13] SnackyCoins : just hopefully you wont get trapped in a long with no way out if we really start moving down
[2015-11-11 02:07:33] Murch : SnackyCoins: yep, I agree with you there, it's necessary to cut it off as soon as it feels weird
[2015-11-11 02:08:03] SnackyCoins : havent had any issues with the stops on bitmex either :)
[2015-11-11 02:08:24] SnackyCoins : (normally a complaint on "some" exchanges)
[2015-11-11 02:08:29] sleger : cataquil: how is that long at 330, good luck you didnt have balls to double it against me at 340 ...
[2015-11-11 02:09:00] Murch : short at 321
[2015-11-11 02:09:17] sleger : that is a risky bet though
[2015-11-11 02:09:22] Thoth : I sold it to you at 340
[2015-11-11 02:09:40] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I'm out. That was sketch
[2015-11-11 02:09:47] SnackyCoins : longs coming down with margincalls but we are still well over 50%
[2015-11-11 02:09:54] sleger : Thoth: you need glasses
[2015-11-11 02:10:27] SnackyCoins : guess i'm not sleeping tonight
[2015-11-11 02:11:13] cekseh : No sleep for you
[2015-11-11 02:11:21] Murch : covered short
[2015-11-11 02:11:26] cekseh : Too much opportunity to get rich.
[2015-11-11 02:11:30] cekseh : Or to lose your ass
[2015-11-11 02:11:59] SnackyCoins : huge socialized losses on okc
[2015-11-11 02:12:08] gustavo7 : 2k one last time
[2015-11-11 02:12:25] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : China is buying. I'm long
[2015-11-11 02:12:45] Murch : long again
[2015-11-11 02:13:00] SnackyCoins : wow you are quick on those :)
[2015-11-11 02:13:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Idk if that's a good thing or not. Last time it failed
[2015-11-11 02:13:28] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Finex buying now
[2015-11-11 02:14:07] sleger : SnackyCoins: on the quaterly yes
[2015-11-11 02:14:10] Murch : covered long
[2015-11-11 02:14:11] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Damn this could be a great long
[2015-11-11 02:14:28] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Why are you out so soon?
[2015-11-11 02:14:41] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: China still getting smashed
[2015-11-11 02:14:48] gustavo7 : finex buying? not by volume
[2015-11-11 02:14:53] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Noticed that but I think it will stop
[2015-11-11 02:14:54] Murch : nvm bought again
[2015-11-11 02:15:09] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : OKCoin has a wall
[2015-11-11 02:15:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : lol
[2015-11-11 02:15:40] cekseh : woodchipper has walls on both sides
[2015-11-11 02:16:00] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cekseh: Yep, now it does
[2015-11-11 02:16:20] cekseh : quarterly has absurd amounts of liquidations to eat up if we end up going up
[2015-11-11 02:16:21] cekseh : up up
[2015-11-11 02:16:25] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Finex still buying though
[2015-11-11 02:16:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cekseh: None actually according to the API
[2015-11-11 02:18:06] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Finex and China still buying woohoo. Could be best trade of day
[2015-11-11 02:18:18] cataquil : sleger: How do you know I didn't double up?
[2015-11-11 02:18:18] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : And I'm out
[2015-11-11 02:18:48] SnackyCoins : trading 1minute charts are we?
[2015-11-11 02:19:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Just made 0.2128 BTC in 5 minutes trading 1 minute charts. Don't hate :)
[2015-11-11 02:20:20] Murch : I made like 10 trades in the past 15 minutes and I think almost all of them were at least a little profit
[2015-11-11 02:20:41] SnackyCoins : including fees?
[2015-11-11 02:20:53] Murch : One minute charts can be traded. That's kinda the entire point of having so much leverage.
[2015-11-11 02:20:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Including fees. Which were only .01 or something like that
[2015-11-11 02:21:03] Murch : Fees are like nothing. .05% right?
[2015-11-11 02:21:13] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Yep. Wow. You win the scalpier than IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb award haha
[2015-11-11 02:21:18] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 10 trades in 15 min is crazy
[2015-11-11 02:21:22] SnackyCoins : we do actually have the volatility to do that, so good job if you're making money
[2015-11-11 02:21:22] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I did 3 in that time
[2015-11-11 02:21:42] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: hahah, I might be exaggerating a bit but it was a lot.
[2015-11-11 02:21:44] messiaen8844 : so, where do you think there's support here?
[2015-11-11 02:22:04] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: Nah. I think 300 is a real possibility. That bounce was weak
[2015-11-11 02:22:18] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Woohoo! I may just be lucky but I also watch the charts like a hawk and enter orders pretty quick
[2015-11-11 02:22:34] micmix : yikes, my withheld profit is half of the wallet balance
[2015-11-11 02:22:35] cataquil : support shows up, if you don't get thrashed by arrogant know it alls before so
[2015-11-11 02:22:36] messiaen8844 : would like 280 to long on xtbz15 ;)
[2015-11-11 02:22:44] Murch : Here we go, still got some more sliding to do
[2015-11-11 02:23:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : micmix: Mine too almost
[2015-11-11 02:24:18] micmix : position size 1337, totally by incident :-)
[2015-11-11 02:24:36] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : micmix: It means it will make you 1337 BTC :p
[2015-11-11 02:24:56] micmix : lol, I wish
[2015-11-11 02:24:59] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Next bounce target 1941 CNY
[2015-11-11 02:25:09] SnackyCoins : my bids are in at 250.
[2015-11-11 02:25:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Or maybe not
[2015-11-11 02:25:43] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Damn. That sounds really low to me
[2015-11-11 02:25:52] SnackyCoins : that's the idea
[2015-11-11 02:26:30] micmix : I'm still buying XBTH16 for $400+ if someone wants to short
[2015-11-11 02:26:44] micmix : paying huge premium over mark price
[2015-11-11 02:26:49] SnackyCoins : getting the notion this is all gonna be done this week, maybe even tonight
[2015-11-11 02:27:20] Murch : long again
[2015-11-11 02:27:22] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I'm long again. This doesn't want to go down more it seems
[2015-11-11 02:27:30] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Haha wow. We're on the same wavelength for sure
[2015-11-11 02:27:43] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: :P
[2015-11-11 02:28:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Now I just have to find some greater fools :p
[2015-11-11 02:29:34] Murch : This seems like a good time for a local bottom
[2015-11-11 02:29:50] Murch : We're at the high of the last major rally.
[2015-11-11 02:29:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: It does but there seems to be about 0 buying pressure too :/
[2015-11-11 02:30:31] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: yeah not seeing much fight back on finex, but China is at least defending 2000
[2015-11-11 02:30:32] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Perhaps it's just all the dumps though and longs will regain confidence shortly
[2015-11-11 02:31:14] SnackyCoins : the problem is that the longs are too confident
[2015-11-11 02:31:34] SnackyCoins : there is no shortage of longing
[2015-11-11 02:31:46] Murch : SnackyCoins: heh
[2015-11-11 02:31:59] messiaen8844 : 320 previous top before the bubble
[2015-11-11 02:32:37] SnackyCoins : heh i can see you two in the tape
[2015-11-11 02:32:45] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: They were anyway, but this does seem like a good place to have a long considering. The last 15 hours sees the price down -18%
[2015-11-11 02:32:47] micmix : well most of my profit this week was from shorting extra excitement of longers :-)
[2015-11-11 02:32:55] SnackyCoins : you're both playing 500 contracts and one of you opens a single contract first then the rest
[2015-11-11 02:32:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Probably not me. I've been holding this long for 5 min probably
[2015-11-11 02:33:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: I'm also playing more contracts than that :p
[2015-11-11 02:33:19] SnackyCoins : heh
[2015-11-11 02:33:31] Murch : and I'm playing way less haha
[2015-11-11 02:33:39] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : haha
[2015-11-11 02:33:44] SnackyCoins : lol good let me go ahead and get my bad calls out of the way 8)
[2015-11-11 02:35:47] SnackyCoins : i can feel it, somebody from this side of the room lost a loved one recently... 8)
[2015-11-11 02:35:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Hahaha
[2015-11-11 02:38:36] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SOS China pumping Finex dumping
[2015-11-11 02:40:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I'm out. too sketch
[2015-11-11 02:40:29] Murch : closed, very slight loss that time.
[2015-11-11 02:41:15] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Me too
[2015-11-11 02:41:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Target 0 CNY :p
[2015-11-11 02:42:08] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Bearish as fuck
[2015-11-11 02:43:03] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : All I can say is this will be a bounce like no other when it bounces for real
[2015-11-11 02:43:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : RIP my cold storage though
[2015-11-11 02:44:39] gustavo7 : move :XBT24H:
[2015-11-11 02:44:46] cekseh : person buying at 310 fed up
[2015-11-11 02:45:15] cekseh : oh pulled it
[2015-11-11 02:46:07] cekseh : Be careful trying to catch this knife.....
[2015-11-11 02:46:25] gustavo7 : shorted 312 to 306 in 2 minutes noice
[2015-11-11 02:46:27] cekseh : Bloody night tonight
[2015-11-11 02:46:44] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : That it is @cekseh
[2015-11-11 02:46:45] mikeh : i'm done trading, had shorts in last few days predicting this but pulled them and left my 7d long in place to be rekt
[2015-11-11 02:47:10] SnackyCoins : ive done that very thing
[2015-11-11 02:47:20] Murch : Going to position myself for a long soon.
[2015-11-11 02:47:24] cekseh : okcoin futures are just full of liquidated people that are not going to be able to celebrate xmas this year
[2015-11-11 02:47:26] cekseh : Or thanksgiving
[2015-11-11 02:47:36] mikeh : even my 320 short 10 mins ago was liquidated, couldn't survive the tiny swing cos of low balance
[2015-11-11 02:47:39] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cekseh: So sad
[2015-11-11 02:47:39] SnackyCoins : stop longing xD we're increasing velocity
[2015-11-11 02:47:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : mikeh: Ouch
[2015-11-11 02:48:17] gustavo7 : 300 EUR down, 300 USD soon
[2015-11-11 02:48:23] Murch : bought in
[2015-11-11 02:48:28] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Me too
[2015-11-11 02:48:29] Murch : at 302
[2015-11-11 02:48:30] cekseh : ^ gl
[2015-11-11 02:48:34] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 303
[2015-11-11 02:48:37] gustavo7 : 2k CNY will be resistance
[2015-11-11 02:48:51] cekseh : 2k cny is gone
[2015-11-11 02:48:54] SnackyCoins : http://i.imgur.com/WT73Zco.jpg
[2015-11-11 02:49:14] gustavo7 : thats why i said resistance - for a rebound
[2015-11-11 02:49:28] gustavo7 : just can't make the psychological case
[2015-11-11 02:49:31] SnackyCoins : we'll break 300
[2015-11-11 02:49:32] mikeh : feature request: a booby prize of 1btc for worst trader of the month
[2015-11-11 02:49:42] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Not at this rate of bounce
[2015-11-11 02:49:43] babybaby : BTC going sub 2650
[2015-11-11 02:49:54] SnackyCoins : ichT, zoom out man xD
[2015-11-11 02:49:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : babybaby: It's already sub 2650 by a lot lol
[2015-11-11 02:50:09] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Thanks but this is profitable :p
[2015-11-11 02:50:11] babybaby : here still 305 lol
[2015-11-11 02:50:11] dynamike23 : hory shet i can't even take a shit
[2015-11-11 02:50:14] babybaby : will crush HARD
[2015-11-11 02:50:20] Murch : Is this the big one?
[2015-11-11 02:50:46] babybaby : go short or die
[2015-11-11 02:51:16] cataquil : long 302 out 209
[2015-11-11 02:51:21] cataquil : 309
[2015-11-11 02:51:40] SnackyCoins : for those of you catching knives that is going to get harder and harder to do
[2015-11-11 02:51:48] SnackyCoins : and it will get more crowded
[2015-11-11 02:52:00] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: yay us!
[2015-11-11 02:52:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: :D
[2015-11-11 02:53:26] SnackyCoins : you could short a top and then just like, leave it 8)
[2015-11-11 02:53:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : And I'm out. Finex put a lid on it
[2015-11-11 02:54:00] cataquil : 100x or not, it deprends on how many contracts you trade versus the margin in your account
[2015-11-11 02:54:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: I know haha, I should have and I would have made way more, but I'm having fun and making money and it is what it is
[2015-11-11 02:54:36] cataquil : catching knifes without massive contracts is ok cause no high blood pressure
[2015-11-11 02:54:39] Murch : covered half
[2015-11-11 02:54:45] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I'm out btw
[2015-11-11 02:54:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : At 309.79
[2015-11-11 02:54:59] cekseh : new lows huobi
[2015-11-11 02:55:05] SnackyCoins : heh well the fun is worth it even losing money 8) rarely does one make money having fun
[2015-11-11 02:55:06] cekseh : hahah
[2015-11-11 02:55:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cekseh: Hodl me
[2015-11-11 02:55:10] cekseh : thats a replaced one
[2015-11-11 02:55:15] cekseh : huobi
[2015-11-11 02:55:21] cekseh : found it
[2015-11-11 02:55:27] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : huobi
[2015-11-11 02:55:28] Murch : covered the rest
[2015-11-11 02:55:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Haha that's great
[2015-11-11 02:55:34] Murch : Made a decent bit offa that
[2015-11-11 02:55:40] cekseh : new lows okc
[2015-11-11 02:55:54] SnackyCoins : this time is different :D
[2015-11-11 02:56:07] cekseh : finex new lows
[2015-11-11 02:56:19] Murch : I'm short
[2015-11-11 02:56:25] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Nice. Me too .25
[2015-11-11 02:56:29] cekseh : hope so =D
[2015-11-11 02:56:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Careful. This may be close to the bottom
[2015-11-11 02:56:54] SnackyCoins : gotta put the fear of god in the new traders
[2015-11-11 02:56:58] SnackyCoins : that means breaking 300 imo
[2015-11-11 02:57:06] cekseh : Gotta go test 160 lows.
[2015-11-11 02:57:11] cekseh : jk.... hopefully.
[2015-11-11 02:57:12] SnackyCoins : lol
[2015-11-11 02:57:15] SnackyCoins : doubt it
[2015-11-11 02:57:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cekseh: Hahaha I hope not
[2015-11-11 02:57:46] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : That would scare the shit out of me
[2015-11-11 02:58:03] gustavo7 : XBU now gave up the premium too
[2015-11-11 02:58:16] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Long again
[2015-11-11 02:58:29] Murch : covered, lost more than I should have there
[2015-11-11 02:58:42] SnackyCoins : its gonna get harder
[2015-11-11 02:58:45] SnackyCoins : we're picking up speed
[2015-11-11 02:59:01] SnackyCoins : look at a 2h
[2015-11-11 02:59:41] SnackyCoins : after here is too late to short though imo
[2015-11-11 03:00:07] SnackyCoins : maybe not for you 1m trigger fingers :)
[2015-11-11 03:00:27] Murch : bought back in
[2015-11-11 03:00:29] SnackyCoins : i am not getting out until shorts > longs on okc futures
[2015-11-11 03:00:42] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: This rate of descent is unsustainable. Time for a retrace
[2015-11-11 03:01:13] SnackyCoins : i agree with the first part
[2015-11-11 03:01:27] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: lol
[2015-11-11 03:02:00] SnackyCoins : i think we'll break 500 when we're done putting in a low
[2015-11-11 03:02:08] SnackyCoins : but we have to put in a low first
[2015-11-11 03:02:19] SnackyCoins : and not a 1minute low
[2015-11-11 03:02:30] SnackyCoins : a low on the 4h, the daily, the 3day, the weekly
[2015-11-11 03:02:34] nickhnt : Holy shit
[2015-11-11 03:02:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Ok :) I'm up .3 BTC on my current long
[2015-11-11 03:02:53] nickhnt : Gonna have a heart attack
[2015-11-11 03:02:53] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: damn you are fucking killing it dude
[2015-11-11 03:03:00] nickhnt : Lol
[2015-11-11 03:03:23] SnackyCoins : yeah i mean don't stop if it's working just make sure you don't get wiped out if it doesn't 8)
[2015-11-11 03:03:40] sleger : make sure you can buy food for you rkid
[2015-11-11 03:03:45] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Yep. I'm out
[2015-11-11 03:03:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: Lol
[2015-11-11 03:03:50] AbuAli : im done
[2015-11-11 03:03:55] AbuAli : :/
[2015-11-11 03:03:58] SnackyCoins : well lots of people when winning tend to go in more
[2015-11-11 03:04:01] Murch : I'm staying in, I think this is the one.
[2015-11-11 03:04:17] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Yep. I'm sticking with my original position size
[2015-11-11 03:04:17] cekseh : the one what
[2015-11-11 03:04:23] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Good luck!
[2015-11-11 03:04:26] SnackyCoins : smart man icht
[2015-11-11 03:04:28] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cekseh: The one true bounce lol
[2015-11-11 03:04:31] zanza : is this the floor boys?
[2015-11-11 03:04:36] SnackyCoins : nope
[2015-11-11 03:04:47] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Thanks man we'll see. I'll still close if it looks too sketch
[2015-11-11 03:05:19] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Good plan. China seems to like it and everything is oversold pretty much but there isn't that much buying going on
[2015-11-11 03:06:27] Murch : Look at that volume on finex though
[2015-11-11 03:06:39] Murch : Looks like a final capitulation. And at a perfect value of 300 as well.
[2015-11-11 03:07:02] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Holy fuck. I'm up 0.9 BTC today. Maybe I should call it a day and not lose any of that
[2015-11-11 03:07:15] SnackyCoins : also would be smart
[2015-11-11 03:07:19] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: It's looking better and better. I really hope you're right :)
[2015-11-11 03:07:25] SnackyCoins : good job dude
[2015-11-11 03:07:41] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Me too, big money no whammies. :P
[2015-11-11 03:07:49] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: :p
[2015-11-11 03:07:52] Murch : That's really epic though, you should celebrate with some shots or something.
[2015-11-11 03:08:13] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Haha yep. That's usually what my Tuesday evenings are like
[2015-11-11 03:08:36] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: good man =P
[2015-11-11 03:08:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Thanks :) I'm inclined to believe it's mostly luck but I'll take it
[2015-11-11 03:09:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Last few times at this point things have turned south. Careful
[2015-11-11 03:09:47] Murch : Yep not looking ideal
[2015-11-11 03:10:08] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Not sure why I didn't short those too instead of just catching the knife. Money both ways? :p
[2015-11-11 03:10:24] SnackyCoins : could have shorted 7d
[2015-11-11 03:10:25] gustavo7 : oh xmas radio is already on, http://somafm.com/xmasinfrisko/songhistory.html
[2015-11-11 03:10:36] Murch : I've been playing both sides like a degen
[2015-11-11 03:10:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Really just luck I managed to find the majority of the local bottoms. There was 1 I missed
[2015-11-11 03:10:43] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Haha
[2015-11-11 03:12:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: I know that would have been great as a longer term trade. I actually did short XBT7D at 389 but chickened out moments later. Imagine if I had held onto that
[2015-11-11 03:13:40] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Would have made about as much as I've made in the past two hours though because it was a pretty small position
[2015-11-11 03:13:41] SnackyCoins : heh i was short 7d but closed waaay too early
[2015-11-11 03:13:46] SnackyCoins : still short 24h tho
[2015-11-11 03:14:09] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Brave man. China likes this bottom
[2015-11-11 03:14:27] SnackyCoins : yeah we'll be here a minute
[2015-11-11 03:14:32] SnackyCoins : probably make a double bottom
[2015-11-11 03:14:37] Murch : Sellers got exhausted here
[2015-11-11 03:14:45] SnackyCoins : if you say so
[2015-11-11 03:14:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I'm long again
[2015-11-11 03:15:03] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : :p
[2015-11-11 03:15:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Will get out if it looks even a little bit sketch
[2015-11-11 03:15:23] Murch : Well, my money is where my mouth is, so that's all that counts right?
[2015-11-11 03:15:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I'd say so
[2015-11-11 03:15:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Smaller position this time
[2015-11-11 03:16:39] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : If Finex breaches 312 convincingly it's party time. Not looking likely though
[2015-11-11 03:17:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Out again. More profit :)
[2015-11-11 03:18:20] Murch : I'm tempted to add more than I usually do hahah
[2015-11-11 03:18:38] Murch : I'll resist the urge though
[2015-11-11 03:18:39] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: It's looking like a good call but be careful with that :)
[2015-11-11 03:18:52] messiaen8844 : china recovering
[2015-11-11 03:18:59] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I'd wait for a break of 312 on Finex
[2015-11-11 03:19:01] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: Yep
[2015-11-11 03:19:28] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : China didn't puke where they did all the previous dumps in the past 2 hours that time
[2015-11-11 03:19:44] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Although give it a minute :p
[2015-11-11 03:20:24] kingscrown : http://fuk.io/trade-bitcoin-with-leverage-make-easy-money-on-current-btc-bubble-incoming/ make money on BTC going down using leverage - video guide =]
[2015-11-11 03:20:27] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Woohoo that last trade was a real winner. 0.008 BTC :p
[2015-11-11 03:20:42] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : kingscrown: I don't read anything that says easy money in it
[2015-11-11 03:21:09] SnackyCoins : probably a flash exploit
[2015-11-11 03:21:16] SnackyCoins : dont even have to click the link
[2015-11-11 03:21:16] messiaen8844 : lol, easy money and leverage in the same phrase.. very very ery funny
[2015-11-11 03:21:44] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : LOL this image from the page
[2015-11-11 03:21:44] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : http://i.imgur.com/WBRSzvf.png
[2015-11-11 03:22:16] messiaen8844 : 2 contracts lol
[2015-11-11 03:23:14] Murch : uh oh, starting to lose confidence in this bounce
[2015-11-11 03:24:22] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Yep not looking good on Finex at least
[2015-11-11 03:24:34] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : OKCoin not looking healthy either
[2015-11-11 03:25:28] messiaen8844 : how many chips can a woodchipper chip while gently caressing the chips?
[2015-11-11 03:25:59] Murch : Whew, still holding on
[2015-11-11 03:26:08] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: Hahaha
[2015-11-11 03:26:10] Murch : MM PLS
[2015-11-11 03:26:12] messiaen8844 : Order could not be submitted: Exchange suspended??
[2015-11-11 03:26:14] Murch : PLS
[2015-11-11 03:26:15] zanza : dat `XBT7D` orderbook
[2015-11-11 03:26:16] cekseh : exchange audited again
[2015-11-11 03:26:20] ethexio : I get an error - exchange suspended
[2015-11-11 03:26:20] cekseh : booboo
[2015-11-11 03:26:25] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Good call
[2015-11-11 03:26:32] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Ouch. The exchange suspended error again?
[2015-11-11 03:26:45] ethexio : What is it, how to resolve?
[2015-11-11 03:26:55] Murch : Working fine for me.
[2015-11-11 03:27:02] ethexio : Worked now
[2015-11-11 03:27:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : ethexio: Ok good. Happened earlier and BitMEX_Sam had to fix it. Each trade triggers an internal audit and if one of those fails it halts trading
[2015-11-11 03:27:54] ethexio : eek
[2015-11-11 03:27:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Should be a postmortem soon on the worse one earlier
[2015-11-11 03:28:45] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I mean it makes sense to protect the exchange and customers but it can also screw you. I was about to close a position 0.1 BTC in profit then everything stopped and I ended up taking a loss when trading resumed
[2015-11-11 03:29:23] SnackyCoins : better that then have fucked up balances, like both sides of a trade winning
[2015-11-11 03:29:24] messiaen8844 : finex still trying
[2015-11-11 03:29:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Yep. Also way better than OKCoin on the best day
[2015-11-11 03:30:06] SnackyCoins : i'd rather the trading halt than get cryptsy'd
[2015-11-11 03:30:11] messiaen8844 : never third the whoodchiper
[2015-11-11 03:30:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: For sure
[2015-11-11 03:30:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I'm pretty sure OKCoin has a sweatshop furiously typing in random numbers piped directly to the database
[2015-11-11 03:31:09] messiaen8844 : i can't trust zero fees
[2015-11-11 03:31:57] Murch : I must say, this is a very sketchy bounce though
[2015-11-11 03:32:01] Murch : Should have been faster.
[2015-11-11 03:32:48] messiaen8844 : longs are scared
[2015-11-11 03:32:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Agreed. If Finex breaks 312 I'll be more convinced but so far just smashing its head repeatedly on an imaginary ceiling and that causes bleeding
[2015-11-11 03:33:08] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: lmao that imagery
[2015-11-11 03:33:21] messiaen8844 : I got a nice long on xbtz15 , a few minutes lator got to sell it for $50+ lol.... those spreads
[2015-11-11 03:33:22] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Just make sure you get out before your profit is all gone haha
[2015-11-11 03:33:28] laisee : blood - good time to be buying, no?
[2015-11-11 03:33:34] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: Wow! Nicely done
[2015-11-11 03:33:47] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: yep true. Currently 9 above my entry
[2015-11-11 03:34:06] Murch : messiaen8844: damn, that must be satisfying lol
[2015-11-11 03:34:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Nice. China looking toppy though
[2015-11-11 03:34:26] messiaen8844 : well, just 0.1BTC profit, but still holding most of the position, someone sold bad
[2015-11-11 03:34:53] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I'm taking a short
[2015-11-11 03:35:20] Murch : Closed out
[2015-11-11 03:35:24] Murch : Considering shorting
[2015-11-11 03:36:01] sleger : i wouldnt short now
[2015-11-11 03:36:01] messiaen8844 : no way I'm shorting before $300 -
[2015-11-11 03:36:13] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Not sure how it will turn out but I'm guessing I'll find out in about 5 minutes
[2015-11-11 03:36:16] SnackyCoins : lol what
[2015-11-11 03:36:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: All the more reason ;)
[2015-11-11 03:36:26] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: yep joining you for that short
[2015-11-11 03:36:49] SnackyCoins : not shorting before 300, so you would after?
[2015-11-11 03:36:50] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: As long as I'm not trading your account I'm happy. Don't want to be in that position
[2015-11-11 03:36:52] Murch : get a few points at least hopefully
[2015-11-11 03:37:05] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Yep, just looking like this bounce is a stillborn
[2015-11-11 03:37:09] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: I should have shorted before. Too busy looking for support for my next knife catch :p
[2015-11-11 03:37:24] SnackyCoins : i mean mess
[2015-11-11 03:37:27] Murch : Buyers got exhausted
[2015-11-11 03:37:33] Murch : Test 300 again I think.
[2015-11-11 03:37:44] messiaen8844 : if it breaks 300 support with volume, why not?
[2015-11-11 03:37:47] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Even if 300 is the bottom I think a double bottom like someone here suggested (was it you @SnackyCoins?) sounds likely
[2015-11-11 03:37:59] SnackyCoins : the double bottom is just to get everybody long
[2015-11-11 03:38:07] SnackyCoins : if you look at the whole rally it was literally made of double tops
[2015-11-11 03:38:17] SnackyCoins : we are playing out the exact same scenario in reverse
[2015-11-11 03:38:19] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Yep I remember that
[2015-11-11 03:38:36] Murch : Covered
[2015-11-11 03:38:36] SnackyCoins : we didn't even do a double bottom the past few supports
[2015-11-11 03:38:42] micmix : I'm still buying XBTH16, now for 390, anyone wants to short?
[2015-11-11 03:38:44] SnackyCoins : just dropped lol
[2015-11-11 03:38:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Bad China. Come back down to Earth :)
[2015-11-11 03:38:56] SnackyCoins : i'm closing my shorts below 300 lol
[2015-11-11 03:39:09] SnackyCoins : i already closed a little
[2015-11-11 03:39:27] laisee : if < 300 .... next stop 275?
[2015-11-11 03:39:28] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: You should close them now. Nobody wants to see that :p
[2015-11-11 03:39:48] SnackyCoins : lol
[2015-11-11 03:40:08] SnackyCoins : my long needs to breathe ;)
[2015-11-11 03:40:21] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Eww grosssss man lol
[2015-11-11 03:41:39] Murch : Short again
[2015-11-11 03:41:45] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Still short
[2015-11-11 03:42:01] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : considering adding to it
[2015-11-11 03:42:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : but I'll be disciplined
[2015-11-11 03:42:33] messiaen8844 : just watching lol
[2015-11-11 03:42:43] SnackyCoins : we are set for down, but that doesnt mean it will happen 8)
[2015-11-11 03:43:00] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Exactly
[2015-11-11 03:43:13] messiaen8844 : volume has decreased a lot
[2015-11-11 03:43:37] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Here comes the dump
[2015-11-11 03:43:41] SnackyCoins : voume actually increasing on the higher timeframes
[2015-11-11 03:45:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I'm out. Not looking like the scare tactics are going to work again
[2015-11-11 03:46:07] messiaen8844 : 306/307 support holding
[2015-11-11 03:46:22] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: Yep. Will long if Finex breaks 312
[2015-11-11 03:47:07] Murch : Went long agian
[2015-11-11 03:47:21] messiaen8844 : someone has a bot that plays 13 contracts I think haha
[2015-11-11 03:47:40] messiaen8844 : some HFT market maker it seems
[2015-11-11 03:47:41] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : messiaen8844: Haha. I guess it's a good way to test it
[2015-11-11 03:49:42] micmix : that's me testing
[2015-11-11 03:49:57] messiaen8844 : how is it playing out mic?
[2015-11-11 03:50:16] sleger : micmix: wait until my bulldozer comes ;)
[2015-11-11 03:50:26] micmix : he-he
[2015-11-11 03:50:29] zanza : sleger: ?
[2015-11-11 03:50:57] sleger : zanza: i work in construction
[2015-11-11 03:51:00] micmix : messiaen8844: I just started a minute ago
[2015-11-11 03:51:18] messiaen8844 : well if it keep sideways it will work fine ;)
[2015-11-11 03:51:18] zanza : what kind of construction ?
[2015-11-11 03:51:31] sleger : zanza: MM destruction
[2015-11-11 03:51:55] zanza : lol
[2015-11-11 03:52:05] sleger : micmix: did you just sell at 310.96?