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[2015-11-10 21:49:19] floopfloop : JACOBcze: read the guides
[2015-11-10 21:49:19] floopfloop : JACOBcze: read the guides
[2015-11-10 21:49:20] floopfloop : JACOBcze: read the guides
[2015-11-10 21:49:22] JACOBcze : i hear you
[2015-11-10 21:49:27] habibi : dont spam guys, pls
[2015-11-10 21:49:28] floopfloop : then do it already
[2015-11-10 21:49:41] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: patience :)
[2015-11-10 21:49:46] floopfloop : negative
[2015-11-10 21:49:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : We were all noobs here at one point
[2015-11-10 21:49:56] gustavo7 : always think about order value, then you kinda know how overleveraged you are
[2015-11-10 21:50:09] JACOBcze : i wouldnt call myself a noob, but in this kind of trading style yes
[2015-11-10 21:50:10] zanza : does anyone know what I should do if I want to learn more about trading here?
[2015-11-10 21:50:12] floopfloop : yes, but I was told to read the guides. Then i asked questions
[2015-11-10 21:50:20] floopfloop : not the other way around
[2015-11-10 21:50:20] JACOBcze : u should not do it here zanza
[2015-11-10 21:50:22] Murch : JACOBcze: yes, buy cost and sell cost are the amount of btc you put down for that position
[2015-11-10 21:50:23] TschavaTschigger : zanza: read the trollbox and learn from the pros
[2015-11-10 21:50:32] zanza : TschavaTschigger: :D
[2015-11-10 21:50:43] floopfloop : ROFL @TschavaTschigger
[2015-11-10 21:50:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : The pros... lol
[2015-11-10 21:50:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I wish
[2015-11-10 21:51:01] habibi : so Murch IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb whats the status of btc now in ur opinions?
[2015-11-10 21:51:16] JACOBcze : zanza check someone good on twitter like cryptoorca (disclaimer: not me) and people who he positively comments on
[2015-11-10 21:51:22] JACOBcze : one way to do it
[2015-11-10 21:51:50] JACOBcze : reading trollbox is basicly a suicide
[2015-11-10 21:52:12] floopfloop : JACOBcze: thats why you should read the guides instead
[2015-11-10 21:52:13] gustavo7 : hope u all shorted 242
[2015-11-10 21:52:24] gustavo7 : err 342, anyway
[2015-11-10 21:52:38] JACOBcze : yeah so the thing what u dont do here zanza
[2015-11-10 21:52:43] JACOBcze : is to panicshort after what gustavo just said
[2015-11-10 21:52:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: Uncertain at best haha. I don't know
[2015-11-10 21:53:11] floopfloop : 1800flowers.com
[2015-11-10 21:53:31] gustavo7 : oh no i'm serious, i have a feeling this dump train will soon continue
[2015-11-10 21:53:49] JACOBcze : well yes im just telling him he cant act on everything this trollbox says im not saying ure right or wrong
[2015-11-10 21:54:07] TschavaTschigger : zanza: if you are doing the opposite of what the trollbox is saying, you will be fine 100%
[2015-11-10 21:54:11] floopfloop : wow the only position with a premium is march
[2015-11-10 21:54:27] TschavaTschigger : zanza: they predict boom? short the fukk out of everything
[2015-11-10 21:54:31] Murch : habibi: I think we make a new low by a single digit amount of dollars and then bounce hard.
[2015-11-10 21:55:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I think that's an excellent call
[2015-11-10 21:55:18] gustavo7 : Murch: so 335? that would please me
[2015-11-10 21:55:24] gustavo7 : haha
[2015-11-10 21:55:32] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Thanks, we'll see
[2015-11-10 21:55:38] Murch : 335 seems like a reasonable place to go long
[2015-11-10 21:56:10] justinlooking : yes with tight stop
[2015-11-10 21:57:10] habibi : i need toilet, stop markets pls
[2015-11-10 21:58:05] Murch : bit lower than 335?
[2015-11-10 21:59:34] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: lol
[2015-11-10 21:59:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I need food
[2015-11-10 21:59:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Took another long. Seems to be a good bottom for now
[2015-11-10 22:00:05] floopfloop : i sold into march, its the only trade with a premium. I am out of margin, have fun peeps
[2015-11-10 22:00:10] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Yep, I went long too
[2015-11-10 22:00:23] Murch : Sorta panicked and opened at 337 like an idiot though
[2015-11-10 22:00:26] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: Cya floopfloop. Good luck
[2015-11-10 22:00:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I didn't do much better haha. 336.6
[2015-11-10 22:00:51] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I think it will still look like a good decision in 10 min
[2015-11-10 22:00:58] Murch : Oh okay that's mine too, I guess we in the same boat
[2015-11-10 22:01:13] Murch : Hopefully, sir
[2015-11-10 22:02:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I could sell right now already haha. Considering it but I think I'll give it more time
[2015-11-10 22:03:00] TschavaTschigger : sounds like a bad idea... next dump and you are gone
[2015-11-10 22:03:09] Murch : Damnit, I pussied out
[2015-11-10 22:03:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Me too
[2015-11-10 22:03:18] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : TschavaTschigger: Thanks
[2015-11-10 22:05:17] Murch : long at the same price
[2015-11-10 22:05:23] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I have to go for now. Cya all later
[2015-11-10 22:05:41] gustavo7 : cya
[2015-11-10 22:05:46] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Cya later dawg
[2015-11-10 22:05:49] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Remember to take your profits and take a break if you start to get chopped up :)
[2015-11-10 22:05:53] habibi : see you later
[2015-11-10 22:05:59] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: haha will do thanks
[2015-11-10 22:07:43] AudibleScience : Are you still here Sam?
[2015-11-10 22:08:08] BitMEX_Sam : AudibleScience: Yep, got your email
[2015-11-10 22:08:27] AudibleScience : Cool... and sorry man!
[2015-11-10 22:08:30] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: Did you enable the verify box for orders? I just made a pretty big mistake because of it
[2015-11-10 22:08:40] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, did you turn it back off?
[2015-11-10 22:08:49] floopfloop : where do you do taht?
[2015-11-10 22:08:49] zanza : fat finger?
[2015-11-10 22:08:54] zanza : surpruse profit?
[2015-11-10 22:08:58] BitMEX_Sam : The "Don't show this again" checkbox
[2015-11-10 22:09:12] kendang : good night guys
[2015-11-10 22:09:29] floopfloop : i dont think I did? Unless I was ina trading frenzy error. You should make that an option on the user account side of things
[2015-11-10 22:09:35] BitMEX_Sam : Working on a comprehensive preferences page that'll let you turn it back on, but for now, if you turn it off once, it stays off
[2015-11-10 22:09:51] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: nice. and tbh I dont know udde
[2015-11-10 22:09:54] floopfloop : dude*
[2015-11-10 22:09:58] zanza : I think this site should have a Windows Paperclip cartoon guide
[2015-11-10 22:10:05] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm. Well sorry about that, but it only turns off if you turn it off
[2015-11-10 22:10:06] zanza : so user friendly
[2015-11-10 22:10:16] BitMEX_Sam : zanza: So many April 1 ideas
[2015-11-10 22:10:20] zanza : :)
[2015-11-10 22:10:44] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: we had an idea for chat filter earlier in the day
[2015-11-10 22:10:51] floopfloop : as well as one yesterday
[2015-11-10 22:11:09] BitMEX_Sam : Hah yeah I saw.
[2015-11-10 22:11:26] floopfloop : I think that could be a great forum topic
[2015-11-10 22:11:38] BitMEX_Sam : A forum would be nice in general
[2015-11-10 22:11:45] BitMEX_Sam : I opened up https://www.reddit.com/r/bitmex
[2015-11-10 22:11:49] BitMEX_Sam : Decent substitute
[2015-11-10 22:12:53] habibi : new low
[2015-11-10 22:13:07] habibi : premium still, this will fall to 332 fast
[2015-11-10 22:13:23] floopfloop : habibi: see premium on March?
[2015-11-10 22:13:53] habibi : yea but still a lot of time to it
[2015-11-10 22:13:58] habibi : who knows
[2015-11-10 22:14:12] floopfloop : if it keeps falling thats easy money
[2015-11-10 22:14:29] zanza : in 136 days :)
[2015-11-10 22:14:29] Murch : real bounce coming after this
[2015-11-10 22:14:31] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Sam: like I said in the email man... lol I promise I'm really going to do my best to stop bugging you with massive emails from now on...
[2015-11-10 22:14:37] BitMEX_Sam : No worries
[2015-11-10 22:14:47] zanza : wall of texts?
[2015-11-10 22:15:21] AudibleScience : WTF is china doing to our coin!?!
[2015-11-10 22:15:31] floopfloop : that are about to buy
[2015-11-10 22:16:51] zanza : at least volume is back?
[2015-11-10 22:17:29] Murch : Going long here
[2015-11-10 22:17:34] zanza : Murch: gl
[2015-11-10 22:17:46] AudibleScience : Miners in China make a massive proportion of the coins... so why are they doing this to themselves?
[2015-11-10 22:18:02] Murch : zanza: Thanks, this seems like the final capitulation for now methinks
[2015-11-10 22:18:03] zanza : to lower the hast rate?
[2015-11-10 22:18:04] sleger : maybe they dont want to just be coin collectors
[2015-11-10 22:18:07] habibi : miners sells big part of mined coins constatnly to traders
[2015-11-10 22:18:11] habibi : so traders are doing this
[2015-11-10 22:18:14] Murch : uh oh, nvm then haha
[2015-11-10 22:18:49] AudibleScience : habibi: yeah... that is a recurring thought I keep having myself...
[2015-11-10 22:18:54] habibi : again new lows about to
[2015-11-10 22:19:43] Murch : still in my long, help a bro out China
[2015-11-10 22:20:56] AudibleScience : habibi: but how many miners are also traders and holders though that's another question?
[2015-11-10 22:21:00] cekseh : Satoshi just moved his coins
[2015-11-10 22:21:11] BitMEX_Sam : LTC on GOX?
[2015-11-10 22:21:11] habibi : cekseh: realy?
[2015-11-10 22:21:29] cekseh : Maybe, idk I'm not looking
[2015-11-10 22:21:31] BitMEX_Sam : if true, I give it a 99% change it's blockchain.info getting spoofed again
[2015-11-10 22:21:34] justinlooking : lol
[2015-11-10 22:21:38] floopfloop : cekseh: link?
[2015-11-10 22:21:51] Crypto Wealth : BitMEX_Sam: on GOX!!! Nice , I'm gonna buy while LTC is cheap and only $50!
[2015-11-10 22:21:52] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: so we need for comfirmation
[2015-11-10 22:21:53] floopfloop : cekseh: kys
[2015-11-10 22:21:55] AudibleScience : Murch: weren't you short?
[2015-11-10 22:22:03] Murch : AudibleScience: Nope, just went long
[2015-11-10 22:22:14] Murch : at 333.5
[2015-11-10 22:22:18] sleger : maybe we could have an ignore button on the chat for cekseh and co
[2015-11-10 22:22:25] floopfloop : Fuck Bitmex, I am moving my coins to Mt.Coins and okcoin
[2015-11-10 22:22:41] floopfloop : I found a filter!
[2015-11-10 22:22:50] habibi : /ignore s
[2015-11-10 22:22:59] habibi : i thought irc command would be usefull here
[2015-11-10 22:23:05] floopfloop : You should have a BTC scavenger hunt for filter words
[2015-11-10 22:23:06] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, no such commands
[2015-11-10 22:23:30] justinlooking : scunthorpe
[2015-11-10 22:23:33] AudibleScience : Murch: yeah but you rode it all the way down to here with a nice short no? I thought you did exactly what I was going to do?
[2015-11-10 22:23:47] Murch : AudibleScience: Yeah I've been shorting on the way down.
[2015-11-10 22:24:01] Murch : AudibleScience: Got like 30 dollars of movement on my shorts :D
[2015-11-10 22:24:12] AudibleScience : Murch: Nice one man!!!
[2015-11-10 22:24:22] floopfloop : Murch: a lap dance??
[2015-11-10 22:24:31] Murch : Thanks dude, nice job to you too if you rode that down short.
[2015-11-10 22:24:36] floopfloop : Murch: "$30 of movement on my shorts"
[2015-11-10 22:24:50] Murch : floopfloop: lololol
[2015-11-10 22:24:59] habibi : 1000%?
[2015-11-10 22:25:31] Murch : closed that long
[2015-11-10 22:26:14] AudibleScience : Murch: I didn't this time man! I was going to... but couldn't...
[2015-11-10 22:26:15] cekseh : china pushing down still
[2015-11-10 22:26:27] Murch : AudibleScience: shiiit, just close it on 332
[2015-11-10 22:26:32] Murch : err
[2015-11-10 22:26:35] habibi : new low
[2015-11-10 22:26:39] habibi : we going under 2100
[2015-11-10 22:26:46] habibi : probally
[2015-11-10 22:26:58] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: When you get a chance, can you re-enable my trade window one more time. I promise I wont be such a klutz
[2015-11-10 22:27:20] AudibleScience : Murch: I'm out for today... right back to ) again! :(
[2015-11-10 22:27:31] gustavo7 : all aboard to 2100/320, give it 30mins
[2015-11-10 22:27:39] Murch : AudibleScience: damn that's frustrating man, I'm sorry :(
[2015-11-10 22:28:01] BitMEX_Sam : floopfloop: You're taken care of, please refresh
[2015-11-10 22:28:09] SnackyCoins : the path to becoming a good trader is paved with devastating losses
[2015-11-10 22:28:26] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: thanks and sorry about that
[2015-11-10 22:28:36] BitMEX_Sam : nw, it really should be configurable
[2015-11-10 22:28:56] Murch : long at 332 hopefully this time it works
[2015-11-10 22:29:01] Murch : 3rd time's the charm
[2015-11-10 22:30:03] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: yes, also from a usability point of view (thinking Norman here) the do not show here shouldnt be by a button people will frantically click
[2015-11-10 22:30:08] SnackyCoins : Murch: http://i.imgur.com/zlcvnTF.jpg
[2015-11-10 22:30:15] BitMEX_Sam : True
[2015-11-10 22:30:19] Murch : SnackyCoins: loool
[2015-11-10 22:30:30] cekseh : okc is 58% long 29% short
[2015-11-10 22:30:30] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: not making excuses for me though lol.
[2015-11-10 22:30:56] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: is XBT7D using the same new markPrice algorithm as the XBT24H?
[2015-11-10 22:31:02] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Yes
[2015-11-10 22:31:14] micmix : thanks
[2015-11-10 22:31:16] floopfloop : cekseh: how can you tell that
[2015-11-10 22:31:17] AudibleScience : Murch: best of luck man! I would be long too right now if I had equity in the account...
[2015-11-10 22:31:36] cekseh : okc com /future/futureTop.do?type=1&symbol=0
[2015-11-10 22:31:41] SnackyCoins : ^
[2015-11-10 22:31:50] SnackyCoins : EVERYONE is long
[2015-11-10 22:31:54] Murch : AudibleScience: oh god, I feel your pain dude, lost 95% of the account the other week
[2015-11-10 22:32:21] floopfloop : cekseh: bit.ly helps lol
[2015-11-10 22:32:52] SnackyCoins : https://goo.gl/TpmEac
[2015-11-10 22:32:59] cekseh : or you can type in the chippers real name
[2015-11-10 22:33:16] SnackyCoins : i have a shortlink premade lol
[2015-11-10 22:33:18] gustavo7 : site times out for me lol
[2015-11-10 22:33:19] floopfloop : okcoin
[2015-11-10 22:33:26] AudibleScience : if everyone is long right now... okcoin may just live up to its name... it's not called okcoin for nothing!
[2015-11-10 22:33:33] AudibleScience : lol lol lol
[2015-11-10 22:33:36] floopfloop : okcoin : coming out this halloween
[2015-11-10 22:33:40] SnackyCoins : everyone long? going down
[2015-11-10 22:34:14] Murch : I think bearish momentum ran out
[2015-11-10 22:34:20] Murch : Bulls taking back control for now.
[2015-11-10 22:34:27] habibi : Murch: why u think that?
[2015-11-10 22:34:45] cekseh : I think there are twice as many people long as there are short
[2015-11-10 22:35:00] Murch : habibi: On the last attempt for price to properly push down, it only made it a few more dollars past the low.
[2015-11-10 22:36:08] SnackyCoins : murch https://goo.gl/TpmEac
[2015-11-10 22:36:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: There's your extra drop Murch :)
[2015-11-10 22:36:17] SnackyCoins : so you see how much bull margin has been used up?
[2015-11-10 22:36:33] SnackyCoins : do you see how very little bearfuel has been used?
[2015-11-10 22:36:49] Murch : SnackyCoins: you clearly haven't seen that page before today
[2015-11-10 22:36:52] SnackyCoins : the bulls are shooting their load every dip and we are still dropping
[2015-11-10 22:36:57] Murch : That always happens during fast movements
[2015-11-10 22:37:07] SnackyCoins : i think you are reading it upside down.
[2015-11-10 22:37:10] Murch : The opposite happens when the price has gone up a lot, because people are closing their longs
[2015-11-10 22:37:19] Murch : therefore the short margin amount increases on average
[2015-11-10 22:37:22] Murch : the opposite happened here
[2015-11-10 22:37:28] Murch : the price went down so shorts covered
[2015-11-10 22:37:30] habibi : dont arque, time will show the right way
[2015-11-10 22:37:33] SnackyCoins : ok you do what you want lol
[2015-11-10 22:37:37] habibi : i mean dont fight nasty here :p
[2015-11-10 22:37:44] Murch : SnackyCoins: k
[2015-11-10 22:38:28] SnackyCoins : lol i've been refreshing that page every 5 minutes since 3 weeks ago now 8)
[2015-11-10 22:38:35] SnackyCoins : and tripled my btc
[2015-11-10 22:38:56] gustavo7 : oh thats just charming of ID-10T
[2015-11-10 22:39:25] Murch : If you've been watching it for that long you'd understand why long margin increases when the price is crashing.
[2015-11-10 22:39:42] SnackyCoins : duh, it has a natural wave to it
[2015-11-10 22:39:47] SnackyCoins : shorts up on ups, longs up on down
[2015-11-10 22:40:00] SnackyCoins : but we're WAY out of whack on longs
[2015-11-10 22:40:06] Murch : wrong, that's only half the explanation
[2015-11-10 22:40:24] Murch : you're forgetting about the longs that close on up and the shorts that close on down.
[2015-11-10 22:40:32] SnackyCoins : it has the same effect
[2015-11-10 22:40:41] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : @Murch @SnackyCoins I'm curious, what makes you believe this data from OKCoin is real if their other data isn't? ;)
[2015-11-10 22:41:02] cekseh : And the longs that close on down, and the shorts that stop on up
[2015-11-10 22:41:13] SnackyCoins : it might not be but i am trading it like a pro ;)
[2015-11-10 22:41:17] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: the data isn't really that useful in deciding imo anyway. I've watched it a lot before.
[2015-11-10 22:41:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I was just kidding mostly :)
[2015-11-10 22:41:41] Murch : And I'm not saying the price definitely goes up here, just explaining why the margin is shifting like that
[2015-11-10 22:41:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Although I would be suspicious of anything from that site
[2015-11-10 22:41:52] TschavaTschigger : hopefully tomorrow we have <300
[2015-11-10 22:41:56] TschavaTschigger : < 300
[2015-11-10 22:42:22] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I think the price goes up here too. We dropped 14% in the past 10 hours with no retrace
[2015-11-10 22:42:28] SnackyCoins : the whole way up, every time shorts hit >50% we went to the moon
[2015-11-10 22:42:32] habibi : anyway if yes i would expect last correction of downtrend
[2015-11-10 22:43:33] SnackyCoins : we move towards whatever direction will fuck the most money out of the market. pretty ez
[2015-11-10 22:43:41] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: It's less of a bounce than I would have liked so maybe it's still got a bit more room down, but I think the worst of it is over at least.
[2015-11-10 22:43:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I sure hope so haha
[2015-11-10 22:44:15] SnackyCoins : we won't stop going down until people stop buying the dip imo
[2015-11-10 22:44:16] Murch : Yep had to cover there since I need to go do some work now
[2015-11-10 22:44:36] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I need to as well but this is too addicting haha
[2015-11-10 22:44:51] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Going to cut myself off soon
[2015-11-10 22:45:17] floopfloop : if I only had more Margin.....i would sell March into liquidation
[2015-11-10 22:45:35] floopfloop : $20 premium
[2015-11-10 22:45:48] SnackyCoins : imo we're in for more highs... later, after we've shaken out everyone who came to market at 500
[2015-11-10 22:46:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: I don't find that too high really
[2015-11-10 22:46:19] BitMEX_Sam : Definitely heavy premium on XBTH16, liquidity is rough though
[2015-11-10 22:46:41] floopfloop : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: maybe, but its crazy easy to flip it for a couple bucks
[2015-11-10 22:46:59] floopfloop : im gonna have to buy some more btc tomorrow
[2015-11-10 22:47:03] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: How do you do that if there's no liquidity
[2015-11-10 22:47:04] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : ?
[2015-11-10 22:47:06] Murch : floopfloop: not really, I've been having trouble closing my order there for the past day
[2015-11-10 22:48:01] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : New lows
[2015-11-10 22:48:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : :|
[2015-11-10 22:48:12] macios15 : Murch: how's youur long
[2015-11-10 22:48:21] Murch : macios15: closed it a while back
[2015-11-10 22:48:27] SnackyCoins : ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2015-11-10 22:48:35] Murch : made a small profit
[2015-11-10 22:48:42] habibi : bad stiff
[2015-11-10 22:48:43] habibi : 2000
[2015-11-10 22:48:44] habibi : incom
[2015-11-10 22:48:47] macios15 : dump just geting started, 12h going to crash
[2015-11-10 22:49:43] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Yep
[2015-11-10 22:49:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : macios15: The 12h is already down 13%!
[2015-11-10 22:50:05] Murch : Wish I could sit here and watch but I really gotta run. I'll catch you guys later
[2015-11-10 22:50:06] macios15 : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: im talking about 12h ema
[2015-11-10 22:50:20] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : macios15: Ohhh
[2015-11-10 22:50:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Cya @Murch
[2015-11-10 22:51:15] habibi : Murch: see u later man
[2015-11-10 22:51:32] gustavo7 : few minutes for me too
[2015-11-10 22:53:49] habibi : thats a really nice retrace
[2015-11-10 22:54:21] stf28 : habibi: 120% it seems to start bouncing let's push it further ^^
[2015-11-10 22:59:03] cataquil : hello, how is liquidation price set?
[2015-11-10 22:59:07] cataquil : I want a wider stop
[2015-11-10 22:59:25] cekseh : building long from ~230, ya'll have permission to pump
[2015-11-10 22:59:44] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cekseh: Haha me too. Let's go!
[2015-11-10 22:59:59] habibi : permsion granted already
[2015-11-10 23:00:09] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: Yay!
[2015-11-10 23:00:25] floopfloop : Why am I such a pussy trader?
[2015-11-10 23:01:21] irbbqu : Because that's what the MM want you to be
[2015-11-10 23:01:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : irbbqu: lol
[2015-11-10 23:02:00] floopfloop : I mean....I made money
[2015-11-10 23:02:02] floopfloop : but shiiiiii could have made a lot more
[2015-11-10 23:02:54] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: what BVOL indexes are active? I see .BVOL24H, anything else?
[2015-11-10 23:03:28] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: The ones listed in the indices on the sidebar, see Contract Specifications
[2015-11-10 23:03:58] cekseh : Keep buying pls, gotta squeeze them shorts
[2015-11-10 23:04:25] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: When was the BVOL market stopped?
[2015-11-10 23:04:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cekseh: I think that pump is over temporarily
[2015-11-10 23:04:43] micmix : BitMEX_Sam, I see, thanks. Any plans to activate others like .BVOL30M?
[2015-11-10 23:05:23] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: I believe those are still ticking, we just don't expose them on the frontend
[2015-11-10 23:05:28] BitMEX_Sam : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: About 2 months ago
[2015-11-10 23:05:39] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: Not enough traders?
[2015-11-10 23:05:47] cataquil : hello bitmex, how does my liquidation price get set. I got closed early, can I change it the account says I have lots of margin. not sure why the stoploss is set automatically so close
[2015-11-10 23:05:50] BitMEX_Sam : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Essentially. It's very difficult to market make
[2015-11-10 23:06:11] BitMEX_Sam : cataquil: It's not a stoploss, it's liquidation - see my response to your ticket
[2015-11-10 23:06:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: I can imagine. I like the concept though
[2015-11-10 23:06:16] floopfloop : cataquil: the isolate amrgin box on the right
[2015-11-10 23:06:27] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: I don't get any data for .BVOL30M from the API: https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/trade?symbol=.BVOL30M&reverse=true
[2015-11-10 23:07:10] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Okay - yeah, .BVOL24H and 7D should be what you want
[2015-11-10 23:07:11] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: duuuuude do you like GITS?
[2015-11-10 23:07:23] BitMEX_Sam : GITS?
[2015-11-10 23:07:40] floopfloop : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5g1xubyuVs
[2015-11-10 23:07:44] floopfloop : Ghost in the Shell
[2015-11-10 23:07:46] BitMEX_Sam : Oh
[2015-11-10 23:07:59] floopfloop : New movie?^^
[2015-11-10 23:08:00] BitMEX_Sam : I remember you chatting about that earlier. Never watched it much. Especially not now - no time
[2015-11-10 23:08:32] BitMEX_Sam : Be back in a bit, relocating
[2015-11-10 23:08:38] floopfloop : I was coming home and saw it oustide a theater and i was like WTF?!?!?!
[2015-11-10 23:09:34] cataquil : how do I close my position?
[2015-11-10 23:09:57] sleger : just close the browser
[2015-11-10 23:10:05] sleger : your position will be gone
[2015-11-10 23:10:09] cekseh : lol.
[2015-11-10 23:10:10] floopfloop : cataquil: alt + f4
[2015-11-10 23:10:25] sleger : windozz berk
[2015-11-10 23:10:28] cataquil : your a comedian, congrats
[2015-11-10 23:10:36] floopfloop : cataquil: you're*
[2015-11-10 23:10:39] sleger : you're
[2015-11-10 23:10:44] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: u could add a tutorial that anyone need to pass on testnet before going here :p
[2015-11-10 23:10:45] floopfloop : sleger: beat ya to it
[2015-11-10 23:10:54] floopfloop : habibi: ROFLROFLROFL
[2015-11-10 23:11:21] cataquil : usually trading platform have a close position button
[2015-11-10 23:11:46] sleger : cataquil:if you do jump out of a plane one day I hope you ask how to open the parachute BEFORE you are out of the plane
[2015-11-10 23:12:03] floopfloop : sleger: +2
[2015-11-10 23:12:19] gustavo7 : welp level seems stable so far
[2015-11-10 23:12:24] cataquil : well sleger I just funded a small account and it turned out it used more leverage that I thought
[2015-11-10 23:12:30] cataquil : there is no demo platform
[2015-11-10 23:12:34] SnackyCoins : yes there is
[2015-11-10 23:12:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : That's a nice 1 minute pennant you've drawn there woodchipper
[2015-11-10 23:12:40] SnackyCoins : testnet.bitmex.com
[2015-11-10 23:12:41] cataquil : the documentation is not clear
[2015-11-10 23:12:51] SnackyCoins : by the way there are two close buttons
[2015-11-10 23:12:54] cataquil : I have traded futures, forex for 9 years
[2015-11-10 23:12:54] habibi : next time first ask then shoot
[2015-11-10 23:12:55] SnackyCoins : close limit and close market
[2015-11-10 23:13:07] cataquil : I didn't expect the platform to be so unintuitive
[2015-11-10 23:13:17] cekseh : I call bs
[2015-11-10 23:13:21] floopfloop : cataquil: rofl.
[2015-11-10 23:13:21] cataquil : I entered a small amount but it turns out to be too much leverage
[2015-11-10 23:13:26] habibi : cataquil: dont blame so bad on this platform !;p
[2015-11-10 23:13:27] sleger : cataquil: the documentation is the best I have seen so far around
[2015-11-10 23:13:32] cataquil : the liquidation price was too close
[2015-11-10 23:13:33] floopfloop : cataquil: have you tried okcoin?
[2015-11-10 23:13:38] sleger : cataquil: to close just open the other way around
[2015-11-10 23:13:41] cataquil : so I want to get out some
[2015-11-10 23:13:52] cataquil : thanks you!
[2015-11-10 23:13:55] sleger : place a limit order against your existing position it will close
[2015-11-10 23:13:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cataquil: You might be on isolated margin
[2015-11-10 23:14:02] floopfloop : cataquil: read the guides
[2015-11-10 23:14:14] floopfloop : alt+f4 is the shortcut to get to the guides
[2015-11-10 23:14:33] sleger : floopfloop: maybe he is lucky and doesnt have shitty OS like you
[2015-11-10 23:14:45] SnackyCoins : you can limit out the other way until you are flat. you know, exactly like any other broker
[2015-11-10 23:14:54] floopfloop : sleger: don't make fun of my mac gaming pc brah
[2015-11-10 23:15:31] sleger : SnackyCoins: few btc exchanges actually open a position the other way instead of closing
[2015-11-10 23:15:40] SnackyCoins : a few of them yes
[2015-11-10 23:15:44] SnackyCoins : but that is exclusive to BTC-land
[2015-11-10 23:16:03] cataquil : I had no time to read, price hit the point I was waiting for...
[2015-11-10 23:16:28] floopfloop : you waxing your modem, tryin to make it go faster! @cataquil
[2015-11-10 23:16:35] floopfloop : cataquil: what kind of chip you got in there, a dorrito?
[2015-11-10 23:16:37] cekseh : cataquil, don't throw away your money doing things you don't understand. Take your time
[2015-11-10 23:16:55] SnackyCoins : 9 years futures trader and you FOMO'd?
[2015-11-10 23:17:00] floopfloop : cataquil: yes, get off of bitmex and go to the strip club
[2015-11-10 23:17:13] cekseh : fomo'd without understanding what the buttons he's clicking on will do
[2015-11-10 23:20:32] floopfloop : best song ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpMvS1Q1sos
[2015-11-10 23:23:19] floopfloop : That should be the Bitmex theme song TBH
[2015-11-10 23:23:24] cataquil : SnackyCoins I didn't FOMO, I waited for a pullback from 500
[2015-11-10 23:23:25] floopfloop : They even talk about the trollbox
[2015-11-10 23:23:27] cataquil : diphead
[2015-11-10 23:24:16] habibi : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2ku1A5Ox8U i like this one
[2015-11-10 23:25:15] floopfloop : My new computers got the clocks it rocks but it was obsolete before I opened the box
[2015-11-10 23:25:43] floopfloop : Got a flat screen monitor 40 inches wide, I believe yours says Etch a Sketch on the side
[2015-11-10 23:25:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : lol
[2015-11-10 23:26:22] floopfloop : habibi: wow lol
[2015-11-10 23:26:30] cataquil : Sorry to disrupt your youtube link posting, but I had to pull the trigger before I had time to think or read all the docs, at least it wasn't a gun.
[2015-11-10 23:26:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I should have loaded up even more at 332. Just don't like going over 10% with my leverage
[2015-11-10 23:26:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *10x
[2015-11-10 23:26:42] cataquil : I did load up
[2015-11-10 23:26:47] cataquil : I am in a 330
[2015-11-10 23:26:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cataquil: Nice
[2015-11-10 23:27:00] cataquil : after being liquidated I reentered
[2015-11-10 23:27:13] cataquil : ah a nice person
[2015-11-10 23:27:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cataquil: Ouch. Good for you for sticking with it though. I got rid of my position temporarily. Waiting to see if this breaks upward more
[2015-11-10 23:27:50] cataquil : knowing which buttons to press is worthless unless you know when to press them
[2015-11-10 23:27:59] floopfloop : cataquil: thats what she said?
[2015-11-10 23:28:23] floopfloop : that was for the comment above but i guess that works too
[2015-11-10 23:28:28] laisee : larf ...
[2015-11-10 23:28:34] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: hahaha
[2015-11-10 23:28:41] cataquil : 8) ok we are happy
[2015-11-10 23:28:47] floopfloop : "after being liquidated I reentered"
[2015-11-10 23:29:38] cataquil : and yes I was silly due to not understanding the leverage here
[2015-11-10 23:29:53] zanza : waas that the floor?
[2015-11-10 23:30:19] cataquil : yup I got in a bit early the entered in XBTZ15
[2015-11-10 23:30:27] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : zanza: It was support anyway
[2015-11-10 23:30:38] cataquil : 55% fib of th rally
[2015-11-10 23:30:41] cataquil : 66
[2015-11-10 23:31:03] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cataquil: What are either of those fibs? Never heard of them before?
[2015-11-10 23:31:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : *.
[2015-11-10 23:31:28] habibi : i am pretty sleepy
[2015-11-10 23:31:38] floopfloop : habibi: do drugs
[2015-11-10 23:31:43] habibi : guys lets have sideway now for few hours, are u with me?
[2015-11-10 23:32:34] habibi : floopfloop: nah, dont want any salt/meth etc
[2015-11-10 23:32:58] floopfloop : habibi: lies
[2015-11-10 23:33:08] laisee : he means MILO
[2015-11-10 23:34:18] cataquil : ah well fibs I know, quanto contracts, isolated margin, not so much
[2015-11-10 23:35:52] laisee : with extra hot MILK
[2015-11-10 23:35:53] cataquil : Ah thats it I took off isolated margin, now I got plenty, why is that on by default
[2015-11-10 23:36:29] cekseh : Probably to keep people who don't understand the engine from nuking their account on their first trade
[2015-11-10 23:38:03] stf28 : cekseh: very probable
[2015-11-10 23:44:05] sleger : cataquil: I asked them to not have it by default as well, they said other people asked for it to be on by default
[2015-11-10 23:44:28] floopfloop : read the guides
[2015-11-10 23:45:25] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : They're planning to make it so you can change the initial leverage on isolate mode so it's not so sketchy when you first open a trade
[2015-11-10 23:46:32] cataquil : I am reading
[2015-11-10 23:55:00] habibi : good night guys, good luck
[2015-11-10 23:55:38] gustavo7 : good night :]
[2015-11-11 00:01:59] cataquil : did the XBT24H just rollover?
[2015-11-11 00:02:22] sleger : yes almost
[2015-11-11 00:02:41] sleger : just 12 hours ago, or... in 12 hours. Basically, you couldnt further off from the truth
[2015-11-11 00:03:01] floopfloop : sleger: rofl
[2015-11-11 00:03:13] cataquil : my blotter still shows my trade
[2015-11-11 00:03:13] sleger : best timing ever
[2015-11-11 00:03:55] floopfloop : and the trader of the month award goes to.......
[2015-11-11 00:05:41] sleger : be nice, he said he's only been trading futures for 9 hours
[2015-11-11 00:07:01] cataquil : Support says that it would be closed as does the contract spec.
[2015-11-11 00:07:15] sleger : lol
[2015-11-11 00:07:22] cataquil : 1 hour on this platform.
[2015-11-11 00:07:28] sleger : 19:02 - sleger: just 12 hours ago, or... in 12 hours. Basically, you couldnt further off from the truth
[2015-11-11 00:08:10] laisee : maybe his clock is stuck
[2015-11-11 00:08:12] sleger : "Contract Details: XBT24H Expiry: in 12 hours"
[2015-11-11 00:09:31] gustavo7 : 12g for me too
[2015-11-11 00:09:33] sleger : please let me know when you're ready to trade, I so want to take the other side !
[2015-11-11 00:09:56] cataquil : doh, I am breaindead today, thought it was 00:00 UTC
[2015-11-11 00:10:09] cataquil : I am long from 330
[2015-11-11 00:16:31] sleger : Perfect, I save myself 10 points then !
[2015-11-11 00:18:18] laisee : cataquil> you can run auction 4 ur lucky coins
[2015-11-11 00:18:24] BitMEX_Sam : cataquil: See the countdown in the top right
[2015-11-11 00:23:17] cataquil : Let me know when I can short your ego sleger, and laisee you can go auction your sarcasm
[2015-11-11 00:23:31] BitMEX_Sam : Ah, good luck getting a good price on that
[2015-11-11 00:24:39] sleger : cataquil: Ok, let's do a trade at mid market, worth 10btc, you choose the side, on 24H
[2015-11-11 00:26:46] trader1000 : Having a small bet?
[2015-11-11 00:30:31] sleger : just trying to make him put his money where his mouth it
[2015-11-11 00:30:34] sleger : *is
[2015-11-11 00:30:37] toto_ : hey bitmex
[2015-11-11 00:30:54] BitMEX_Sam : FYI if you noticed that the chat list wasn't staying at the bottom properly while typing, that's now fixed
[2015-11-11 00:30:56] BitMEX_Sam : Minor annoyance
[2015-11-11 00:31:00] BitMEX_Sam : Hey toto_
[2015-11-11 00:31:25] toto_ : what will happen if the 12 hours has been passed in x100 long, im in profit, and i didnt close it yet
[2015-11-11 00:31:41] TschavaTschigger : tradeblocks index just uses the btc/usd from okcoin right? doesn't make much sense since most of their volume is btc/cny
[2015-11-11 00:31:45] sleger : you will profit
[2015-11-11 00:31:52] toto_ : i will stay in a long?
[2015-11-11 00:31:56] sleger : no
[2015-11-11 00:32:05] toto_ : or it closes automatically
[2015-11-11 00:32:30] BitMEX_Sam : TschavaTschigger: Yeah, so usually it's weighted rather small
[2015-11-11 00:32:40] BitMEX_Sam : toto_: It will close automatically at the index price
[2015-11-11 00:32:40] toto_ : ?
[2015-11-11 00:32:48] toto_ : thnx
[2015-11-11 00:33:21] BitMEX_Sam : See https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/XBT
[2015-11-11 00:43:25] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: Thank you for adding order info to the cancel reply, very useful!
[2015-11-11 00:43:39] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: :) You're quick
[2015-11-11 00:44:18] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: I have a break point in that place and the test was running :-)
[2015-11-11 00:47:04] sleger : micmix: do you get a lot of WS disconnect ?
[2015-11-11 00:48:26] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: How does the reply look like for batch cancel when one order was already canceled/filled?
[2015-11-11 00:48:41] BitMEX_Sam : You'll get the whole order back, but with an `error` attribute
[2015-11-11 00:48:43] BitMEX_Sam : Look for that
[2015-11-11 00:50:13] micmix : sleger: it depends, usually one in 2-3 hours but I'm just testing from my dev computer, the bot is not hosted on the server yet
[2015-11-11 00:50:24] TschavaTschigger : since I got deleted from facebook this is my only community here... is that sad?
[2015-11-11 00:50:32] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: got it, thanks
[2015-11-11 00:51:04] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Sam: we need profile pics, a wall and being able to add friends
[2015-11-11 00:51:21] BitMEX_Sam : TschavaTschigger: Hah, you're in the wrong place for that
[2015-11-11 00:51:26] TschavaTschigger : www.bitbook.com
[2015-11-11 01:07:43] laisee : how does anyone get deleted from FB?
[2015-11-11 01:10:39] sleger : send me your login/password I will show you
[2015-11-11 01:21:42] sleger : I have a problem, my algo works too well, so I dont know what to do
[2015-11-11 01:23:47] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: Lucky you
[2015-11-11 01:25:02] micmix : sleger: Give it all your life savings to trade :-)
[2015-11-11 01:25:07] sleger : Ok, I'm mostly teasing, whoelse on the chat here is running bots
[2015-11-11 01:25:28] sleger : micmix: It is managing about 50btc, started from 4btc
[2015-11-11 01:26:01] sleger : fortunately for me, it is far from my life savings, I would never gamble that away ...
[2015-11-11 01:26:02] micmix : sleger: not bad, when did you start running it?
[2015-11-11 01:26:10] sleger : micmix: 1 month ago
[2015-11-11 01:26:27] sleger : by the way, you did not answer me do you get a lot of WS disconnects ?
[2015-11-11 01:26:33] laisee : nice return.
[2015-11-11 01:26:50] sleger : 1 negative day in a month
[2015-11-11 01:27:12] AbuAli : sleger: what bot u use ?
[2015-11-11 01:27:23] sleger : robocop
[2015-11-11 01:27:26] micmix : sleger: I answered, you must have missed it. It depends, usually one in 2-3 hours but I'm just testing from my dev computer, the bot is not hosted on the server yet
[2015-11-11 01:27:26] laisee : what language did u code it in?
[2015-11-11 01:27:52] BitMEX_Sam : Expect WS disconnects to come and go, we don't yet have a zero-downtime deployment solution for websocket
[2015-11-11 01:27:58] sleger : micmix: sorry must have missed, it, yes I do get disconnects here quite often, and sometimes harder to reconnect than other places
[2015-11-11 01:28:01] BitMEX_Sam : I'll keep you updated on that if we get something in place
[2015-11-11 01:28:14] sleger : laisee: most of it is in python, some parts in c++
[2015-11-11 01:29:02] laisee : some need for speed? using c++
[2015-11-11 01:29:09] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: Market maker or does it pick a side?
[2015-11-11 01:29:25] AbuAli : sleger: can i buy ur bot ?
[2015-11-11 01:29:32] sleger : BitMEX_Sam: i thought i had a safeproof way of reconnecting, it works for most exchanges but somehow yesterday i lost it until i killed and restarted
[2015-11-11 01:29:37] sleger : AbuAli: no
[2015-11-11 01:29:49] AbuAli : sleger: free :P ?
[2015-11-11 01:29:51] sleger : laisee: some part was already existing
[2015-11-11 01:30:40] sleger : just started testing it live here, made 70$ in 4 hrs