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<< >> English 中文 Русский 한국어 日本語 Español Français [2015-11-10 21:20:54] BitMEX_Sam : Essentially we allow isolating an individual position, which lets you customize the leverage you want while limiting the possible loss [2015-11-10 21:21:14] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Understood, but at that point wouldn't it make sense to just hit `GET /order`? [2015-11-10 21:23:15] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: Yep, but it's an extra API call and additional complexity. You pull up the order anyway when processing cancel, should be easy to add couple of fields to the returned json. BTW, you add order id to returned json in case of batch cancels but not in case of single cancel [2015-11-10 21:25:26] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: I sent an email to support. Thanks for your help [2015-11-10 21:26:05] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: I'm trying to save API calls everywhere I can, and extra roundtrip lag for GET /order before I re-submit quotes is unwanted [2015-11-10 21:27:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Good call on holding your short. I thought that bounce was the end of it [2015-11-10 21:27:46] cekseh : Shits gettin real [2015-11-10 21:27:56] cekseh : finex wall gone [2015-11-10 21:28:06] gustavo7 : wreking some volume [2015-11-10 21:28:56] cekseh : goin deep [2015-11-10 21:29:00] cekseh : woo [2015-11-10 21:29:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Wow [2015-11-10 21:29:09] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: haha thanks man, feeling pretty good bout this [2015-11-10 21:29:10] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Internally we actually don't have access to that object to return it, we would have to make a separate request inside the API [2015-11-10 21:29:12] zanza : is this the floor guys ? [2015-11-10 21:29:27] gustavo7 : are these margin calls yet on finex? [2015-11-10 21:29:30] BitMEX_Sam : Anyway I work to make it more consistent [2015-11-10 21:29:34] BitMEX_Sam : will work* [2015-11-10 21:29:37] habibi : not yet [2015-11-10 21:29:55] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: You made the right call. I freaked out about the exchange freeze and tried to minimize my losses since I didn't know where this was going but now I wish I had held onto my position [2015-11-10 21:30:06] cekseh : trade your own account guys, don't do what someone else says just cause they say it [2015-11-10 21:30:08] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: interesting, you must check order status to know if the order is already canceled, so you should be able to return it [2015-11-10 21:30:24] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: It has to do with how the system is architected, doesn't matter much from your perspective [2015-11-10 21:30:34] BitMEX_Sam : Don't worry about it [2015-11-10 21:31:27] cekseh : people are buying this [2015-11-10 21:31:29] TschavaTschigger : yesss dumptime < 3 [2015-11-10 21:31:31] cekseh : derp derp [2015-11-10 21:31:51] gustavo7 : 2190 on okcoin [2015-11-10 21:32:48] cekseh : new lows okc [2015-11-10 21:33:46] Murch : Shit I covered there [2015-11-10 21:33:50] Murch : A little early I think :/ [2015-11-10 21:34:25] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : 213 BTC to 2300 on OKC. Wow [2015-11-10 21:34:27] Murch : That was good though. What a satisfying short LOL [2015-11-10 21:34:36] cekseh : indeed [2015-11-10 21:34:37] sleger : 20k btc of liq orders on 0kcoin quarterly [2015-11-10 21:35:03] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: Wow [2015-11-10 21:35:26] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Your best trade yet perhaps? Way to go for sticking with it [2015-11-10 21:36:04] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Haha, a very good one ROI% wise for sure :P Thanks dude feelsgoodman.jpg [2015-11-10 21:36:21] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: :) I'm trying the knife catching strategy now. Working great so far [2015-11-10 21:36:33] zanza : careful with your hands [2015-11-10 21:36:37] Murch : Yep, just bought in a bit [2015-11-10 21:36:39] floopfloop : where is the floor? [2015-11-10 21:36:56] cekseh : longs still crazy high on okc [2015-11-10 21:37:10] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Bitfinex going for a crazy amount of retracement [2015-11-10 21:37:43] habibi : guys mark my words, that was the low 336!:p [2015-11-10 21:37:49] sleger : cekseh: ? [2015-11-10 21:38:05] gustavo7 : i think double bottom at least [2015-11-10 21:38:10] Murch : I think it is possible that was the low [2015-11-10 21:38:26] floopfloop : $11 premium [2015-11-10 21:38:29] Murch : It depends on how far this shit bounces [2015-11-10 21:38:41] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I'm thinking the same. That was a very strong bounce from BFX [2015-11-10 21:39:09] Murch : Covered, may buy back in lower [2015-11-10 21:39:28] JACOBcze : so [2015-11-10 21:39:30] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Same same. Caught the knife by the handle fortunately [2015-11-10 21:39:41] JACOBcze : i just did my first trade [2015-11-10 21:39:45] JACOBcze : i made 0.005 [2015-11-10 21:39:46] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: good work us ;) [2015-11-10 21:39:56] JACOBcze : but my account shows i didnt make that and just shows me that im down the fee i payed [2015-11-10 21:39:59] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: :) [2015-11-10 21:40:03] JACOBcze : why is that, my wallet balance is fine [2015-11-10 21:40:19] sleger : JACOBcze: I took all your profit [2015-11-10 21:40:23] JACOBcze : D: [2015-11-10 21:40:27] TschavaTschigger : Murch: there is no low.. thats the beautiful thing about bitcoin :) [2015-11-10 21:40:30] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: lol [2015-11-10 21:40:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : TschavaTschigger: hahaha [2015-11-10 21:40:46] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : TschavaTschigger: 160 was a pretty convincing low for me [2015-11-10 21:40:58] Murch : fuck I just fat fingered half my order [2015-11-10 21:41:02] Murch : I am so pissed at myself [2015-11-10 21:41:21] zanza : lol [2015-11-10 21:41:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Oh no [2015-11-10 21:41:37] floopfloop : Murch: yeah i just screwed up my order too [2015-11-10 21:42:32] Murch : meant to put it at 426 and it shifted to 509 while I was trying.. [2015-11-10 21:42:41] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : If this really bounces here that's some solid bullish divergence on the 15 and 30 min MACD, but I've said that a lot so I don't think it means much [2015-11-10 21:43:07] sleger : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: a bullish crash then ... ? [2015-11-10 21:43:09] floopfloop : Murch: its at 427 now [2015-11-10 21:43:18] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : sleger: Haha I know I know [2015-11-10 21:43:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I just can't tame my permabull at heart [2015-11-10 21:43:41] Murch : floopfloop: Oh shit, that was the order you opened? [2015-11-10 21:43:42] zanza : is this t e floor? [2015-11-10 21:44:01] floopfloop : no i messed up ont he friday [2015-11-10 21:44:06] JACOBcze : im still confused if i buy 1000 contracts I buy 0.1BTC? or 0.1BTC on 100x leverage, or am i completely retarded [2015-11-10 21:44:09] floopfloop : but I was eyeing up MAR as well [2015-11-10 21:44:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : JACOBcze: If you buy 1000 contracts you buy 0.00001 BTC per $1 price [2015-11-10 21:44:34] JACOBcze : could be the floor could be temporary floor and go down another 20$ later [2015-11-10 21:44:40] floopfloop : JACOBcze: read the guides. [2015-11-10 21:44:43] Murch : round 2? [2015-11-10 21:44:44] JACOBcze : yeah thanks i totally understand that [2015-11-10 21:44:56] zanza : 1000*.00001* 338 = 3.38 XBT value [2015-11-10 21:44:59] floopfloop : JACOBcze: read the guides [2015-11-10 21:44:59] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : JACOBcze: So at $340 that's .00001*340 BTC per contract [2015-11-10 21:45:06] habibi : or i could be wrong lel :p [2015-11-10 21:45:10] JACOBcze : wth [2015-11-10 21:45:24] JACOBcze : who invented this shit [2015-11-10 21:45:28] floopfloop : ? [2015-11-10 21:45:33] zanza : jacob, look at "order value" its standard f utures trading [2015-11-10 21:45:34] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : JACOBcze: You should read this https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/XBT [2015-11-10 21:45:45] zanza : this is professional shit [2015-11-10 21:45:45] floopfloop : JACOBcze: read the guides [2015-11-10 21:45:58] JACOBcze : floopfloop pls [2015-11-10 21:46:02] JACOBcze : icht something pls [2015-11-10 21:46:07] JACOBcze : so order value is pretty much BTC? [2015-11-10 21:46:08] cekseh : more core [2015-11-10 21:46:11] zanza : JACOBcze: "order value" will tell you how much your order is "worth" [2015-11-10 21:46:14] floopfloop : JACOBcze: read the guides [2015-11-10 21:46:18] JACOBcze : floopfloop pls [2015-11-10 21:46:23] zanza : JACOBcze: pls [2015-11-10 21:46:26] floopfloop : stop asking silly questions [2015-11-10 21:46:27] JACOBcze : pls [2015-11-10 21:46:39] floopfloop : everything is in the guides. Read them, then ask questions [2015-11-10 21:46:54] kendang : this can't be true. i go for walk, the market drops massively. now i go eat a pizza and the market drops again. [2015-11-10 21:47:06] floopfloop : kendang: go to the strip club [2015-11-10 21:47:08] sleger : JACOBcze: yes 1 contract is one bitcoin, if you think the price will go up then click the red button [2015-11-10 21:47:17] JACOBcze : wow [2015-11-10 21:47:19] JACOBcze : sledger ok wow [2015-11-10 21:47:25] JACOBcze : i see what u did there and i dont appreciate it [2015-11-10 21:47:32] floopfloop : JACOBcze: read the guides [2015-11-10 21:47:35] JACOBcze : i think im gonna write you an unpleasant letter [2015-11-10 21:47:35] zanza : lmao [2015-11-10 21:47:39] kendang : floopfloop: there's only one in town and it's boring as fuck. [2015-11-10 21:47:40] zanza : u guys are insane [2015-11-10 21:48:26] kendang : not gently carress! F_U_C_K [2015-11-10 21:48:32] JACOBcze : Buy cost = how much BTC im putting in it pretty much? [2015-11-10 21:48:56] JACOBcze : ok screw this im gonna do the math [2015-11-10 21:49:01] habibi : JACOBcze: where u from? [2015-11-10 21:49:02] TschavaTschigger : crazy that there is still a premium on 24h haha [2015-11-10 21:49:09] floopfloop : JACOBcze: read the guides [2015-11-10 21:49:14] floopfloop : JACOBcze: read the guides [2015-11-10 21:49:14] gustavo7 : buy cost doesnt mean much, it's lower the higher the leverage [2015-11-10 21:49:17] JACOBcze : OK floopfloop goddamnit [2015-11-10 21:49:19] floopfloop : JACOBcze: read the guides [2015-11-10 21:49:19] floopfloop : JACOBcze: read the guides [2015-11-10 21:49:20] floopfloop : JACOBcze: read the guides [2015-11-10 21:49:22] JACOBcze : i hear you [2015-11-10 21:49:27] habibi : dont spam guys, pls [2015-11-10 21:49:28] floopfloop : then do it already [2015-11-10 21:49:41] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: patience :) [2015-11-10 21:49:46] floopfloop : negative [2015-11-10 21:49:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : We were all noobs here at one point [2015-11-10 21:49:56] gustavo7 : always think about order value, then you kinda know how overleveraged you are [2015-11-10 21:50:09] JACOBcze : i wouldnt call myself a noob, but in this kind of trading style yes [2015-11-10 21:50:10] zanza : does anyone know what I should do if I want to learn more about trading here? [2015-11-10 21:50:12] floopfloop : yes, but I was told to read the guides. Then i asked questions [2015-11-10 21:50:20] floopfloop : not the other way around [2015-11-10 21:50:20] JACOBcze : u should not do it here zanza [2015-11-10 21:50:22] Murch : JACOBcze: yes, buy cost and sell cost are the amount of btc you put down for that position [2015-11-10 21:50:23] TschavaTschigger : zanza: read the trollbox and learn from the pros [2015-11-10 21:50:32] zanza : TschavaTschigger: :D [2015-11-10 21:50:43] floopfloop : ROFL @TschavaTschigger [2015-11-10 21:50:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : The pros... lol [2015-11-10 21:50:58] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I wish [2015-11-10 21:51:01] habibi : so Murch IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb whats the status of btc now in ur opinions? [2015-11-10 21:51:16] JACOBcze : zanza check someone good on twitter like cryptoorca (disclaimer: not me) and people who he positively comments on [2015-11-10 21:51:22] JACOBcze : one way to do it [2015-11-10 21:51:50] JACOBcze : reading trollbox is basicly a suicide [2015-11-10 21:52:12] floopfloop : JACOBcze: thats why you should read the guides instead [2015-11-10 21:52:13] gustavo7 : hope u all shorted 242 [2015-11-10 21:52:24] gustavo7 : err 342, anyway [2015-11-10 21:52:38] JACOBcze : yeah so the thing what u dont do here zanza [2015-11-10 21:52:43] JACOBcze : is to panicshort after what gustavo just said [2015-11-10 21:52:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: Uncertain at best haha. I don't know [2015-11-10 21:53:11] floopfloop : 1800flowers.com [2015-11-10 21:53:31] gustavo7 : oh no i'm serious, i have a feeling this dump train will soon continue [2015-11-10 21:53:49] JACOBcze : well yes im just telling him he cant act on everything this trollbox says im not saying ure right or wrong [2015-11-10 21:54:07] TschavaTschigger : zanza: if you are doing the opposite of what the trollbox is saying, you will be fine 100% [2015-11-10 21:54:11] floopfloop : wow the only position with a premium is march [2015-11-10 21:54:27] TschavaTschigger : zanza: they predict boom? short the fukk out of everything [2015-11-10 21:54:31] Murch : habibi: I think we make a new low by a single digit amount of dollars and then bounce hard. [2015-11-10 21:55:07] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I think that's an excellent call [2015-11-10 21:55:18] gustavo7 : Murch: so 335? that would please me [2015-11-10 21:55:24] gustavo7 : haha [2015-11-10 21:55:32] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Thanks, we'll see [2015-11-10 21:55:38] Murch : 335 seems like a reasonable place to go long [2015-11-10 21:56:10] justinlooking : yes with tight stop [2015-11-10 21:57:10] habibi : i need toilet, stop markets pls [2015-11-10 21:58:05] Murch : bit lower than 335? [2015-11-10 21:59:34] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: lol [2015-11-10 21:59:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I need food [2015-11-10 21:59:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Took another long. Seems to be a good bottom for now [2015-11-10 22:00:05] floopfloop : i sold into march, its the only trade with a premium. I am out of margin, have fun peeps [2015-11-10 22:00:10] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Yep, I went long too [2015-11-10 22:00:23] Murch : Sorta panicked and opened at 337 like an idiot though [2015-11-10 22:00:26] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: Cya floopfloop. Good luck [2015-11-10 22:00:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I didn't do much better haha. 336.6 [2015-11-10 22:00:51] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I think it will still look like a good decision in 10 min [2015-11-10 22:00:58] Murch : Oh okay that's mine too, I guess we in the same boat [2015-11-10 22:01:13] Murch : Hopefully, sir [2015-11-10 22:02:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I could sell right now already haha. Considering it but I think I'll give it more time [2015-11-10 22:03:00] TschavaTschigger : sounds like a bad idea... next dump and you are gone [2015-11-10 22:03:09] Murch : Damnit, I pussied out [2015-11-10 22:03:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Me too [2015-11-10 22:03:18] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : TschavaTschigger: Thanks [2015-11-10 22:05:17] Murch : long at the same price [2015-11-10 22:05:23] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I have to go for now. Cya all later [2015-11-10 22:05:41] gustavo7 : cya [2015-11-10 22:05:46] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Cya later dawg [2015-11-10 22:05:49] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Remember to take your profits and take a break if you start to get chopped up :) [2015-11-10 22:05:53] habibi : see you later [2015-11-10 22:05:59] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: haha will do thanks [2015-11-10 22:07:43] AudibleScience : Are you still here Sam? [2015-11-10 22:08:08] BitMEX_Sam : AudibleScience: Yep, got your email [2015-11-10 22:08:27] AudibleScience : Cool... and sorry man! [2015-11-10 22:08:30] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: Did you enable the verify box for orders? I just made a pretty big mistake because of it [2015-11-10 22:08:40] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, did you turn it back off? [2015-11-10 22:08:49] floopfloop : where do you do taht? [2015-11-10 22:08:49] zanza : fat finger? [2015-11-10 22:08:54] zanza : surpruse profit? [2015-11-10 22:08:58] BitMEX_Sam : The "Don't show this again" checkbox [2015-11-10 22:09:12] kendang : good night guys [2015-11-10 22:09:29] floopfloop : i dont think I did? Unless I was ina trading frenzy error. You should make that an option on the user account side of things [2015-11-10 22:09:35] BitMEX_Sam : Working on a comprehensive preferences page that'll let you turn it back on, but for now, if you turn it off once, it stays off [2015-11-10 22:09:51] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: nice. and tbh I dont know udde [2015-11-10 22:09:54] floopfloop : dude* [2015-11-10 22:09:58] zanza : I think this site should have a Windows Paperclip cartoon guide [2015-11-10 22:10:05] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm. Well sorry about that, but it only turns off if you turn it off [2015-11-10 22:10:06] zanza : so user friendly [2015-11-10 22:10:16] BitMEX_Sam : zanza: So many April 1 ideas [2015-11-10 22:10:20] zanza : :) [2015-11-10 22:10:44] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: we had an idea for chat filter earlier in the day [2015-11-10 22:10:51] floopfloop : as well as one yesterday [2015-11-10 22:11:09] BitMEX_Sam : Hah yeah I saw. [2015-11-10 22:11:26] floopfloop : I think that could be a great forum topic [2015-11-10 22:11:38] BitMEX_Sam : A forum would be nice in general [2015-11-10 22:11:45] BitMEX_Sam : I opened up https://www.reddit.com/r/bitmex [2015-11-10 22:11:49] BitMEX_Sam : Decent substitute [2015-11-10 22:12:53] habibi : new low [2015-11-10 22:13:07] habibi : premium still, this will fall to 332 fast [2015-11-10 22:13:23] floopfloop : habibi: see premium on March? [2015-11-10 22:13:53] habibi : yea but still a lot of time to it [2015-11-10 22:13:58] habibi : who knows [2015-11-10 22:14:12] floopfloop : if it keeps falling thats easy money [2015-11-10 22:14:29] zanza : in 136 days :) [2015-11-10 22:14:29] Murch : real bounce coming after this [2015-11-10 22:14:31] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Sam: like I said in the email man... lol I promise I'm really going to do my best to stop bugging you with massive emails from now on... [2015-11-10 22:14:37] BitMEX_Sam : No worries [2015-11-10 22:14:47] zanza : wall of texts? [2015-11-10 22:15:21] AudibleScience : WTF is china doing to our coin!?! [2015-11-10 22:15:31] floopfloop : that are about to buy [2015-11-10 22:16:51] zanza : at least volume is back? [2015-11-10 22:17:29] Murch : Going long here [2015-11-10 22:17:34] zanza : Murch: gl [2015-11-10 22:17:46] AudibleScience : Miners in China make a massive proportion of the coins... so why are they doing this to themselves? [2015-11-10 22:18:02] Murch : zanza: Thanks, this seems like the final capitulation for now methinks [2015-11-10 22:18:03] zanza : to lower the hast rate? [2015-11-10 22:18:04] sleger : maybe they dont want to just be coin collectors [2015-11-10 22:18:07] habibi : miners sells big part of mined coins constatnly to traders [2015-11-10 22:18:11] habibi : so traders are doing this [2015-11-10 22:18:14] Murch : uh oh, nvm then haha [2015-11-10 22:18:49] AudibleScience : habibi: yeah... that is a recurring thought I keep having myself... [2015-11-10 22:18:54] habibi : again new lows about to [2015-11-10 22:19:43] Murch : still in my long, help a bro out China [2015-11-10 22:20:56] AudibleScience : habibi: but how many miners are also traders and holders though that's another question? [2015-11-10 22:21:00] cekseh : Satoshi just moved his coins [2015-11-10 22:21:11] BitMEX_Sam : LTC on GOX? [2015-11-10 22:21:11] habibi : cekseh: realy? [2015-11-10 22:21:29] cekseh : Maybe, idk I'm not looking [2015-11-10 22:21:31] BitMEX_Sam : if true, I give it a 99% change it's blockchain.info getting spoofed again [2015-11-10 22:21:34] justinlooking : lol [2015-11-10 22:21:38] floopfloop : cekseh: link? [2015-11-10 22:21:51] Crypto Wealth : BitMEX_Sam: on GOX!!! Nice , I'm gonna buy while LTC is cheap and only $50! [2015-11-10 22:21:52] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: so we need for comfirmation [2015-11-10 22:21:53] floopfloop : cekseh: kys [2015-11-10 22:21:55] AudibleScience : Murch: weren't you short? [2015-11-10 22:22:03] Murch : AudibleScience: Nope, just went long [2015-11-10 22:22:14] Murch : at 333.5 [2015-11-10 22:22:18] sleger : maybe we could have an ignore button on the chat for cekseh and co [2015-11-10 22:22:25] floopfloop : Fuck Bitmex, I am moving my coins to Mt.Coins and okcoin [2015-11-10 22:22:41] floopfloop : I found a filter! [2015-11-10 22:22:50] habibi : /ignore s [2015-11-10 22:22:59] habibi : i thought irc command would be usefull here [2015-11-10 22:23:05] floopfloop : You should have a BTC scavenger hunt for filter words [2015-11-10 22:23:06] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, no such commands [2015-11-10 22:23:30] justinlooking : scunthorpe [2015-11-10 22:23:33] AudibleScience : Murch: yeah but you rode it all the way down to here with a nice short no? I thought you did exactly what I was going to do? [2015-11-10 22:23:47] Murch : AudibleScience: Yeah I've been shorting on the way down. [2015-11-10 22:24:01] Murch : AudibleScience: Got like 30 dollars of movement on my shorts :D [2015-11-10 22:24:12] AudibleScience : Murch: Nice one man!!! [2015-11-10 22:24:22] floopfloop : Murch: a lap dance?? [2015-11-10 22:24:31] Murch : Thanks dude, nice job to you too if you rode that down short. [2015-11-10 22:24:36] floopfloop : Murch: "$30 of movement on my shorts" [2015-11-10 22:24:50] Murch : floopfloop: lololol [2015-11-10 22:24:59] habibi : 1000%? [2015-11-10 22:25:31] Murch : closed that long [2015-11-10 22:26:14] AudibleScience : Murch: I didn't this time man! I was going to... but couldn't... [2015-11-10 22:26:15] cekseh : china pushing down still [2015-11-10 22:26:27] Murch : AudibleScience: shiiit, just close it on 332 [2015-11-10 22:26:32] Murch : err [2015-11-10 22:26:35] habibi : new low [2015-11-10 22:26:39] habibi : we going under 2100 [2015-11-10 22:26:46] habibi : probally [2015-11-10 22:26:58] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: When you get a chance, can you re-enable my trade window one more time. I promise I wont be such a klutz [2015-11-10 22:27:20] AudibleScience : Murch: I'm out for today... right back to ) again! :( [2015-11-10 22:27:31] gustavo7 : all aboard to 2100/320, give it 30mins [2015-11-10 22:27:39] Murch : AudibleScience: damn that's frustrating man, I'm sorry :( [2015-11-10 22:28:01] BitMEX_Sam : floopfloop: You're taken care of, please refresh [2015-11-10 22:28:09] SnackyCoins : the path to becoming a good trader is paved with devastating losses [2015-11-10 22:28:26] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: thanks and sorry about that [2015-11-10 22:28:36] BitMEX_Sam : nw, it really should be configurable [2015-11-10 22:28:56] Murch : long at 332 hopefully this time it works [2015-11-10 22:29:01] Murch : 3rd time's the charm [2015-11-10 22:30:03] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: yes, also from a usability point of view (thinking Norman here) the do not show here shouldnt be by a button people will frantically click [2015-11-10 22:30:08] SnackyCoins : Murch: http://i.imgur.com/zlcvnTF.jpg [2015-11-10 22:30:15] BitMEX_Sam : True [2015-11-10 22:30:19] Murch : SnackyCoins: loool [2015-11-10 22:30:30] cekseh : okc is 58% long 29% short [2015-11-10 22:30:30] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: not making excuses for me though lol. [2015-11-10 22:30:56] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: is XBT7D using the same new markPrice algorithm as the XBT24H? [2015-11-10 22:31:02] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Yes [2015-11-10 22:31:14] micmix : thanks [2015-11-10 22:31:16] floopfloop : cekseh: how can you tell that [2015-11-10 22:31:17] AudibleScience : Murch: best of luck man! I would be long too right now if I had equity in the account... [2015-11-10 22:31:36] cekseh : okc com /future/futureTop.do?type=1&symbol=0 [2015-11-10 22:31:41] SnackyCoins : ^ [2015-11-10 22:31:50] SnackyCoins : EVERYONE is long [2015-11-10 22:31:54] Murch : AudibleScience: oh god, I feel your pain dude, lost 95% of the account the other week [2015-11-10 22:32:21] floopfloop : cekseh: bit.ly helps lol [2015-11-10 22:32:52] SnackyCoins : https://goo.gl/TpmEac [2015-11-10 22:32:59] cekseh : or you can type in the chippers real name [2015-11-10 22:33:16] SnackyCoins : i have a shortlink premade lol [2015-11-10 22:33:18] gustavo7 : site times out for me lol [2015-11-10 22:33:19] floopfloop : okcoin [2015-11-10 22:33:26] AudibleScience : if everyone is long right now... okcoin may just live up to its name... it's not called okcoin for nothing! [2015-11-10 22:33:33] AudibleScience : lol lol lol [2015-11-10 22:33:36] floopfloop : okcoin : coming out this halloween [2015-11-10 22:33:40] SnackyCoins : everyone long? going down [2015-11-10 22:34:14] Murch : I think bearish momentum ran out [2015-11-10 22:34:20] Murch : Bulls taking back control for now. [2015-11-10 22:34:27] habibi : Murch: why u think that? [2015-11-10 22:34:45] cekseh : I think there are twice as many people long as there are short [2015-11-10 22:35:00] Murch : habibi: On the last attempt for price to properly push down, it only made it a few more dollars past the low. [2015-11-10 22:36:08] SnackyCoins : murch https://goo.gl/TpmEac [2015-11-10 22:36:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: There's your extra drop Murch :) [2015-11-10 22:36:17] SnackyCoins : so you see how much bull margin has been used up? [2015-11-10 22:36:33] SnackyCoins : do you see how very little bearfuel has been used? [2015-11-10 22:36:49] Murch : SnackyCoins: you clearly haven't seen that page before today [2015-11-10 22:36:52] SnackyCoins : the bulls are shooting their load every dip and we are still dropping [2015-11-10 22:36:57] Murch : That always happens during fast movements [2015-11-10 22:37:07] SnackyCoins : i think you are reading it upside down. [2015-11-10 22:37:10] Murch : The opposite happens when the price has gone up a lot, because people are closing their longs [2015-11-10 22:37:19] Murch : therefore the short margin amount increases on average [2015-11-10 22:37:22] Murch : the opposite happened here [2015-11-10 22:37:28] Murch : the price went down so shorts covered [2015-11-10 22:37:30] habibi : dont arque, time will show the right way [2015-11-10 22:37:33] SnackyCoins : ok you do what you want lol [2015-11-10 22:37:37] habibi : i mean dont fight nasty here :p [2015-11-10 22:37:44] Murch : SnackyCoins: k [2015-11-10 22:38:28] SnackyCoins : lol i've been refreshing that page every 5 minutes since 3 weeks ago now 8) [2015-11-10 22:38:35] SnackyCoins : and tripled my btc [2015-11-10 22:38:56] gustavo7 : oh thats just charming of ID-10T [2015-11-10 22:39:25] Murch : If you've been watching it for that long you'd understand why long margin increases when the price is crashing. [2015-11-10 22:39:42] SnackyCoins : duh, it has a natural wave to it [2015-11-10 22:39:47] SnackyCoins : shorts up on ups, longs up on down [2015-11-10 22:40:00] SnackyCoins : but we're WAY out of whack on longs [2015-11-10 22:40:06] Murch : wrong, that's only half the explanation [2015-11-10 22:40:24] Murch : you're forgetting about the longs that close on up and the shorts that close on down. [2015-11-10 22:40:32] SnackyCoins : it has the same effect [2015-11-10 22:40:41] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : @Murch @SnackyCoins I'm curious, what makes you believe this data from OKCoin is real if their other data isn't? ;) [2015-11-10 22:41:02] cekseh : And the longs that close on down, and the shorts that stop on up [2015-11-10 22:41:13] SnackyCoins : it might not be but i am trading it like a pro ;) [2015-11-10 22:41:17] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: the data isn't really that useful in deciding imo anyway. I've watched it a lot before. [2015-11-10 22:41:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I was just kidding mostly :) [2015-11-10 22:41:41] Murch : And I'm not saying the price definitely goes up here, just explaining why the margin is shifting like that [2015-11-10 22:41:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Although I would be suspicious of anything from that site [2015-11-10 22:41:52] TschavaTschigger : hopefully tomorrow we have <300 [2015-11-10 22:41:56] TschavaTschigger : < 300 [2015-11-10 22:42:22] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I think the price goes up here too. We dropped 14% in the past 10 hours with no retrace [2015-11-10 22:42:28] SnackyCoins : the whole way up, every time shorts hit >50% we went to the moon [2015-11-10 22:42:32] habibi : anyway if yes i would expect last correction of downtrend [2015-11-10 22:43:33] SnackyCoins : we move towards whatever direction will fuck the most money out of the market. pretty ez [2015-11-10 22:43:41] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: It's less of a bounce than I would have liked so maybe it's still got a bit more room down, but I think the worst of it is over at least. [2015-11-10 22:43:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I sure hope so haha [2015-11-10 22:44:15] SnackyCoins : we won't stop going down until people stop buying the dip imo [2015-11-10 22:44:16] Murch : Yep had to cover there since I need to go do some work now [2015-11-10 22:44:36] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I need to as well but this is too addicting haha [2015-11-10 22:44:51] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Going to cut myself off soon [2015-11-10 22:45:17] floopfloop : if I only had more Margin.....i would sell March into liquidation [2015-11-10 22:45:35] floopfloop : $20 premium [2015-11-10 22:45:48] SnackyCoins : imo we're in for more highs... later, after we've shaken out everyone who came to market at 500 [2015-11-10 22:46:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: I don't find that too high really [2015-11-10 22:46:19] BitMEX_Sam : Definitely heavy premium on XBTH16, liquidity is rough though [2015-11-10 22:46:41] floopfloop : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: maybe, but its crazy easy to flip it for a couple bucks [2015-11-10 22:46:59] floopfloop : im gonna have to buy some more btc tomorrow [2015-11-10 22:47:03] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: How do you do that if there's no liquidity [2015-11-10 22:47:04] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : ? [2015-11-10 22:47:06] Murch : floopfloop: not really, I've been having trouble closing my order there for the past day [2015-11-10 22:48:01] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : New lows [2015-11-10 22:48:05] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : :| [2015-11-10 22:48:12] macios15 : Murch: how's youur long [2015-11-10 22:48:21] Murch : macios15: closed it a while back [2015-11-10 22:48:27] SnackyCoins : ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [2015-11-10 22:48:35] Murch : made a small profit [2015-11-10 22:48:42] habibi : bad stiff [2015-11-10 22:48:43] habibi : 2000 [2015-11-10 22:48:44] habibi : incom [2015-11-10 22:48:47] macios15 : dump just geting started, 12h going to crash [2015-11-10 22:49:43] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : SnackyCoins: Yep [2015-11-10 22:49:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : macios15: The 12h is already down 13%! [2015-11-10 22:50:05] Murch : Wish I could sit here and watch but I really gotta run. I'll catch you guys later [2015-11-10 22:50:06] macios15 : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: im talking about 12h ema [2015-11-10 22:50:20] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : macios15: Ohhh [2015-11-10 22:50:31] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Cya @Murch [2015-11-10 22:51:15] habibi : Murch: see u later man [2015-11-10 22:51:32] gustavo7 : few minutes for me too [2015-11-10 22:53:49] habibi : thats a really nice retrace [2015-11-10 22:54:21] stf28 : habibi: 120% it seems to start bouncing let's push it further ^^ [2015-11-10 22:59:03] cataquil : hello, how is liquidation price set? [2015-11-10 22:59:07] cataquil : I want a wider stop [2015-11-10 22:59:25] cekseh : building long from ~230, ya'll have permission to pump [2015-11-10 22:59:44] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cekseh: Haha me too. Let's go! [2015-11-10 22:59:59] habibi : permsion granted already [2015-11-10 23:00:09] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: Yay! [2015-11-10 23:00:25] floopfloop : Why am I such a pussy trader? [2015-11-10 23:01:21] irbbqu : Because that's what the MM want you to be [2015-11-10 23:01:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : irbbqu: lol [2015-11-10 23:02:00] floopfloop : I mean....I made money [2015-11-10 23:02:02] floopfloop : but shiiiiii could have made a lot more [2015-11-10 23:02:54] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: what BVOL indexes are active? I see .BVOL24H, anything else? [2015-11-10 23:03:28] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: The ones listed in the indices on the sidebar, see Contract Specifications [2015-11-10 23:03:58] cekseh : Keep buying pls, gotta squeeze them shorts [2015-11-10 23:04:25] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: When was the BVOL market stopped? [2015-11-10 23:04:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cekseh: I think that pump is over temporarily [2015-11-10 23:04:43] micmix : BitMEX_Sam, I see, thanks. Any plans to activate others like .BVOL30M? [2015-11-10 23:05:23] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: I believe those are still ticking, we just don't expose them on the frontend [2015-11-10 23:05:28] BitMEX_Sam : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: About 2 months ago [2015-11-10 23:05:39] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: Not enough traders? [2015-11-10 23:05:47] cataquil : hello bitmex, how does my liquidation price get set. I got closed early, can I change it the account says I have lots of margin. not sure why the stoploss is set automatically so close [2015-11-10 23:05:50] BitMEX_Sam : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Essentially. It's very difficult to market make [2015-11-10 23:06:11] BitMEX_Sam : cataquil: It's not a stoploss, it's liquidation - see my response to your ticket [2015-11-10 23:06:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BitMEX_Sam: I can imagine. I like the concept though [2015-11-10 23:06:16] floopfloop : cataquil: the isolate amrgin box on the right [2015-11-10 23:06:27] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: I don't get any data for .BVOL30M from the API: https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/trade?symbol=.BVOL30M&reverse=true [2015-11-10 23:07:10] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Okay - yeah, .BVOL24H and 7D should be what you want [2015-11-10 23:07:11] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: duuuuude do you like GITS? [2015-11-10 23:07:23] BitMEX_Sam : GITS? [2015-11-10 23:07:40] floopfloop : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5g1xubyuVs [2015-11-10 23:07:44] floopfloop : Ghost in the Shell [2015-11-10 23:07:46] BitMEX_Sam : Oh [2015-11-10 23:07:59] floopfloop : New movie?^^ [2015-11-10 23:08:00] BitMEX_Sam : I remember you chatting about that earlier. Never watched it much. Especially not now - no time [2015-11-10 23:08:32] BitMEX_Sam : Be back in a bit, relocating [2015-11-10 23:08:38] floopfloop : I was coming home and saw it oustide a theater and i was like WTF?!?!?! [2015-11-10 23:09:34] cataquil : how do I close my position? [2015-11-10 23:09:57] sleger : just close the browser [2015-11-10 23:10:05] sleger : your position will be gone [2015-11-10 23:10:09] cekseh : lol. [2015-11-10 23:10:10] floopfloop : cataquil: alt + f4 [2015-11-10 23:10:25] sleger : windozz berk [2015-11-10 23:10:28] cataquil : your a comedian, congrats [2015-11-10 23:10:36] floopfloop : cataquil: you're* [2015-11-10 23:10:39] sleger : you're [2015-11-10 23:10:44] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: u could add a tutorial that anyone need to pass on testnet before going here :p [2015-11-10 23:10:45] floopfloop : sleger: beat ya to it [2015-11-10 23:10:54] floopfloop : habibi: ROFLROFLROFL [2015-11-10 23:11:21] cataquil : usually trading platform have a close position button [2015-11-10 23:11:46] sleger : cataquil:if you do jump out of a plane one day I hope you ask how to open the parachute BEFORE you are out of the plane [2015-11-10 23:12:03] floopfloop : sleger: +2 [2015-11-10 23:12:19] gustavo7 : welp level seems stable so far [2015-11-10 23:12:24] cataquil : well sleger I just funded a small account and it turned out it used more leverage that I thought [2015-11-10 23:12:30] cataquil : there is no demo platform [2015-11-10 23:12:34] SnackyCoins : yes there is [2015-11-10 23:12:38] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : That's a nice 1 minute pennant you've drawn there woodchipper [2015-11-10 23:12:40] SnackyCoins : testnet.bitmex.com [2015-11-10 23:12:41] cataquil : the documentation is not clear [2015-11-10 23:12:51] SnackyCoins : by the way there are two close buttons [2015-11-10 23:12:54] cataquil : I have traded futures, forex for 9 years [2015-11-10 23:12:54] habibi : next time first ask then shoot [2015-11-10 23:12:55] SnackyCoins : close limit and close market [2015-11-10 23:13:07] cataquil : I didn't expect the platform to be so unintuitive [2015-11-10 23:13:17] cekseh : I call bs [2015-11-10 23:13:21] floopfloop : cataquil: rofl. [2015-11-10 23:13:21] cataquil : I entered a small amount but it turns out to be too much leverage [2015-11-10 23:13:26] habibi : cataquil: dont blame so bad on this platform !;p [2015-11-10 23:13:27] sleger : cataquil: the documentation is the best I have seen so far around [2015-11-10 23:13:32] cataquil : the liquidation price was too close [2015-11-10 23:13:33] floopfloop : cataquil: have you tried okcoin? [2015-11-10 23:13:38] sleger : cataquil: to close just open the other way around [2015-11-10 23:13:41] cataquil : so I want to get out some [2015-11-10 23:13:52] cataquil : thanks you! [2015-11-10 23:13:55] sleger : place a limit order against your existing position it will close [2015-11-10 23:13:56] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : cataquil: You might be on isolated margin [2015-11-10 23:14:02] floopfloop : cataquil: read the guides [2015-11-10 23:14:14] floopfloop : alt+f4 is the shortcut to get to the guides [2015-11-10 23:14:33] sleger : floopfloop: maybe he is lucky and doesnt have shitty OS like you [2015-11-10 23:14:45] SnackyCoins : you can limit out the other way until you are flat. you know, exactly like any other broker [2015-11-10 23:14:54] floopfloop : sleger: don't make fun of my mac gaming pc brah [2015-11-10 23:15:31] sleger : SnackyCoins: few btc exchanges actually open a position the other way instead of closing [2015-11-10 23:15:40] SnackyCoins : a few of them yes [2015-11-10 23:15:44] SnackyCoins : but that is exclusive to BTC-land [2015-11-10 23:16:03] cataquil : I had no time to read, price hit the point I was waiting for... [2015-11-10 23:16:28] floopfloop : you waxing your modem, tryin to make it go faster! @cataquil [2015-11-10 23:16:35] floopfloop : cataquil: what kind of chip you got in there, a dorrito? [2015-11-10 23:16:37] cekseh : cataquil, don't throw away your money doing things you don't understand. Take your time [2015-11-10 23:16:55] SnackyCoins : 9 years futures trader and you FOMO'd? [2015-11-10 23:17:00] floopfloop : cataquil: yes, get off of bitmex and go to the strip club [2015-11-10 23:17:13] cekseh : fomo'd without understanding what the buttons he's clicking on will do [2015-11-10 23:20:32] floopfloop : best song ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpMvS1Q1sos [2015-11-10 23:23:19] floopfloop : That should be the Bitmex theme song TBH [2015-11-10 23:23:24] cataquil : SnackyCoins I didn't FOMO, I waited for a pullback from 500 [2015-11-10 23:23:25] floopfloop : They even talk about the trollbox [2015-11-10 23:23:27] cataquil : diphead [2015-11-10 23:24:16] habibi : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2ku1A5Ox8U i like this one