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[2017-02-14 09:26:49] cryptokeeper : okc price is dripping down however
[2017-02-14 09:26:57] Dynamix : narnarfromnarnia: yupp and it will
[2017-02-14 09:27:19] jung1 : I am afraid of shorting bitcoin now
[2017-02-14 09:27:24] jung1 : to be honest
[2017-02-14 09:27:26] narnarfromnarnia : once market players rekt folks they won't keep letting other in on profit long
[2017-02-14 09:27:29] narnarfromnarnia : it's just a rekt game
[2017-02-14 09:28:01] Dynamix : Okcoin big dump imminent
[2017-02-14 09:28:15] narnarfromnarnia : huobi?
[2017-02-14 09:28:23] narnarfromnarnia : or okcoin
[2017-02-14 09:28:25] narnarfromnarnia : ah
[2017-02-14 09:28:27] narnarfromnarnia : okc
[2017-02-14 09:28:32] Ahhere : ok 1007.5.. with a nice wall
[2017-02-14 09:29:26] thomaskikansha : still 21K shorts on bfx
[2017-02-14 09:29:39] Ahhere : 1008..
[2017-02-14 09:29:42] narnarfromnarnia : thomaskikansha: bigger hands there
[2017-02-14 09:29:46] thomaskikansha : okc catching up
[2017-02-14 09:30:35] Ahhere : 1009...
[2017-02-14 09:30:55] thomaskikansha : 1010 okc
[2017-02-14 09:31:05] Ahhere : new high since the drop
[2017-02-14 09:31:20] narnarfromnarnia : i see 992 on wisdom for okc
[2017-02-14 09:31:24] rullwull : Shorters, just close your shorts and accept your losses, stop hoping for another dump
[2017-02-14 09:31:35] ayy_lmao : they must be looking at futures
[2017-02-14 09:31:37] thomaskikansha : narnarfromnarnia: 992 for cny 1010 for usd
[2017-02-14 09:31:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 50000 @ 1012.75 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-02-14 09:31:55] thomaskikansha : okc got 2 markets
[2017-02-14 09:31:58] l3f : rullwull: people with no SL should learn their lesson
[2017-02-14 09:32:01] Ahhere : and we're off
[2017-02-14 09:32:35] narnarfromnarnia : dub top here
[2017-02-14 09:32:38] narnarfromnarnia : and we're back down to 900's
[2017-02-14 09:32:40] crmun : i dont see 992 only rekt people shorting this move
[2017-02-14 09:33:43] crmun : this is not the end and not even beginning
[2017-02-14 09:34:09] narnarfromnarnia : crmun: beginning of the end
[2017-02-14 09:34:19] crmun : first possible top on ath
[2017-02-14 09:34:34] crmun : narnarfromnarnia: not with all this shorts
[2017-02-14 09:34:54] narnarfromnarnia : crmun: those have higher leverage than what's available in china now
[2017-02-14 09:35:10] narnarfromnarnia : there's not increase in money flow to rekt those big hands
[2017-02-14 09:35:21] crmun : this time it is not china leading
[2017-02-14 09:35:52] crmun : china was only slowing this move down
[2017-02-14 09:36:31] crmun : we are going up and china still at discount
[2017-02-14 09:37:13] crmun : big hands are buying for cash this time
[2017-02-14 09:37:32] narnarfromnarnia : that's it double top here
[2017-02-14 09:37:48] crmun : so short it and RIP
[2017-02-14 09:38:06] rullwull : narnarfromnarnia: go all in short from here
[2017-02-14 09:38:14] crmun : yes please
[2017-02-14 09:38:25] crmun : do it
[2017-02-14 09:39:28] narnarfromnarnia : okay
[2017-02-14 09:39:31] narnarfromnarnia : you guys go all in long here
[2017-02-14 09:39:32] narnarfromnarnia : 100x
[2017-02-14 09:39:38] narnarfromnarnia : i go 100x short let's see
[2017-02-14 09:39:59] ayy_lmao : you dont get to say that
[2017-02-14 09:40:07] ayy_lmao : we've been shouting long since below 1k
[2017-02-14 09:40:13] ayy_lmao : you just started
[2017-02-14 09:40:34] narnarfromnarnia : max your leverage out
[2017-02-14 09:40:39] ayy_lmao : why
[2017-02-14 09:40:48] ayy_lmao : they are already long
[2017-02-14 09:40:58] rullwull : From 950
[2017-02-14 09:41:00] ayy_lmao : you said double top, implying you are just shorting
[2017-02-14 09:41:00] thomaskikansha : bfx got decent no. of buyers
[2017-02-14 09:41:36] narnarfromnarnia : scam coin
[2017-02-14 09:41:45] crmun : you are scam
[2017-02-14 09:41:59] crmun : trying to scare ppl
[2017-02-14 09:42:14] rullwull : narnarfromnarnia: man just cover your short and take a rest, no need to trade with panic
[2017-02-14 09:42:21] narnarfromnarnia : never trade based on anything said in here
[2017-02-14 09:42:28] crmun : cause you shorted this hahahahahahahaha
[2017-02-14 09:43:08] crmun : better close it before liq
[2017-02-14 09:43:26] crmun : trend is your friend pal
[2017-02-14 09:43:32] crmun : or it should be
[2017-02-14 09:44:03] ayy_lmao : any audiophiles here?
[2017-02-14 09:44:22] cryptokeeper : yep me
[2017-02-14 09:44:38] ayy_lmao : need a recommendationa on some computer speakers / studio monitors
[2017-02-14 09:45:18] jung1 : only nekrophiles couse bitcoin is dead and we play with it
[2017-02-14 09:45:28] cryptokeeper : studio monitors i use mackie and beringer
[2017-02-14 09:45:33] cryptokeeper : and for computer speakers i have logitech z5500
[2017-02-14 09:45:38] cryptokeeper : does 1000watts RMS
[2017-02-14 09:45:53] ayy_lmao : alright i'll look into them, thanks
[2017-02-14 09:46:43] cryptokeeper : yep
[2017-02-14 09:49:48] Ahhere : ayy_lmao: audiophile checking in
[2017-02-14 09:49:53] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-02-14 09:50:52] Ahhere : I have genelec range some of the bigger ones 1040 I think. The 1080s are the small ones so you talking 800-5k depending on how loud you need perfection.
[2017-02-14 09:52:08] Ahhere : Genelec sub pairs well with the babies also
[2017-02-14 09:52:44] ayy_lmao : nice, I'll look into those too
[2017-02-14 09:53:56] Ahhere : ayy_lmao: cryptowatch alerts sound amazing on them lol
[2017-02-14 09:54:57] ayy_lmao : you read my mind
[2017-02-14 09:56:31] thomaskikansha : ready for another wave
[2017-02-14 09:57:32] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 110 @ 1013.96
[2017-02-14 10:00:06] bingbongfly : I think we can go to 1035
[2017-02-14 10:00:17] bingbongfly : unlucky me I closed my long from XBTH at 980 yesterday
[2017-02-14 10:00:18] jung1 : finex pump hard
[2017-02-14 10:00:21] bingbongfly : got scared and wanted to sleep
[2017-02-14 10:00:39] bingbongfly : yeah. finex looks good
[2017-02-14 10:00:53] narnarfromnarnia : my stop loss hit so it'll most likely dump now
[2017-02-14 10:02:37] heheh lo : h17 on discount
[2017-02-14 10:04:31] jung1 : CNY volumes on Localbitcoins.com, zoomed in to approx 1 year: http://imgur.com/a/lc0xv Source: https://anacoinda.github.io/localbitcoins/currencies/CNY.html EDIT: 350 tx in last 24 hours: https://anacoinda.github.io/localbitcoins/index.html
[2017-02-14 10:05:39] jung1 : If ETF is denied BTC goes down 20-30%, max. If ETF is approved, BTC goes up 200-300%, minimum.
[2017-02-14 10:06:49] jose : jung1: so if it is denied, you think btc can go to 800-700 ?
[2017-02-14 10:06:58] jung1 : yes
[2017-02-14 10:06:58] l3f : jose: which is what you want
[2017-02-14 10:07:04] l3f : people have been calling for cheapcoins for a while now
[2017-02-14 10:07:06] jung1 : yes
[2017-02-14 10:08:06] jose : l3f: so the ETF being denied would be as big as a dump as BFX hack ? really ?
[2017-02-14 10:08:18] jung1 : possible
[2017-02-14 10:08:37] jung1 : a lot of new capital in ecosystem just becouse etf rumors
[2017-02-14 10:09:03] l3f : jose: no idea
[2017-02-14 10:09:33] MikeHunt : this? http://i.imgur.com/50txcqh.png
[2017-02-14 10:10:29] MikeHunt : jung1: anything bellow 800 breaks the support line for the bull run
[2017-02-14 10:10:47] jung1 : hope so!
[2017-02-14 10:11:45] jose : so you think people that invested in bitcoin to make a huge profit are going to withdraw all their money if etf is not accepted ?
[2017-02-14 10:12:24] jose : now that they have some bitcoins, why would they invest in an other asset ? wich one can yield more profit ?
[2017-02-14 10:12:51] MikeHunt : looks like localbitcoins is next for the pboc hammer
[2017-02-14 10:13:06] Ahhere : Happy valentines day bitcorn
[2017-02-14 10:13:09] MikeHunt : jose: profit isnt everything, long term stability is also another factor
[2017-02-14 10:13:20] Dynamix : Its dumping timme boyyzzz
[2017-02-14 10:13:23] Ahhere : you old romantic u #flymetothemoon
[2017-02-14 10:14:01] jung1 : If the ETF is approved we will decisively break the all time high immediately. The combined news of ETF and ATH will result in huge exposure for Bitcoin in the press, which will drive the price much higher. All that will happen before the ETF actually launches, which will probably take a few weeks after approval. In fact, the price will probably rise and crash multiple times before the ETF even starts to trade, unless they somehow manage to launch it in only a day or two.
[2017-02-14 10:14:01] jung1 : jose: weak hands will throw away their coins
[2017-02-14 10:14:03] jose : MikeHunt: yes, but we are not talking about that, we are talking about people speculating on the ETF being accepted
[2017-02-14 10:14:06] jung1 : If the ETF is approved we will decisively break the all time high immediately. The combined news of ETF and ATH will result in huge exposure for Bitcoin in the press, which will drive the price much higher.
[2017-02-14 10:14:12] jung1 : All that will happen before the ETF actually launches, which will probably take a few weeks after approval. In fact, the price will probably rise and crash multiple times before the ETF even starts to trade, unless they somehow manage to launch it in only a day or two.
[2017-02-14 10:14:40] MikeHunt : jose: well if they dont they risk loosing at least 10-20%
[2017-02-14 10:14:49] Ahhere : Big sell & buywall on ok. #whalefight!
[2017-02-14 10:16:38] MikeHunt : i dont think the ETF will be approved simply because its a big risk for the SEC officials
[2017-02-14 10:16:56] MikeHunt : gov officials dont like risk
[2017-02-14 10:17:22] jose : MikeHunt: me neither, but in fact i short the etf and long bitcoin long term, it is a win / win
[2017-02-14 10:17:35] Dynamix : MikeHunt: Why not ? lolol
[2017-02-14 10:17:39] Dynamix : stop shilling downwards Mike
[2017-02-14 10:17:48] MikeHunt : jose: shorting COIN?
[2017-02-14 10:17:49] Dynamix : you said $400 couple days ago lol
[2017-02-14 10:18:01] jose : MikeHunt: yes of course
[2017-02-14 10:18:06] jung1 : https://news.bitcoin.com/second-annual-blockchain-cruise/ how cool is that?
[2017-02-14 10:18:07] MikeHunt : Dynamix: may well do if ETF fails
[2017-02-14 10:18:23] Dynamix : MikeHunt: haha It wont go that low probably lower than 850 yes
[2017-02-14 10:18:31] Dynamix : but lower than 750 for me its a dream to buy there lol
[2017-02-14 10:18:39] jose : i loose 20% of my BTC holding if ETF pass, but price will do x2 at least, so i win
[2017-02-14 10:18:45] MikeHunt : Dynamix: lower than 800 breaks the bull support
[2017-02-14 10:19:05] Dynamix : MikeHunt: Myeah, will go down to what 1$ yes
[2017-02-14 10:19:06] MikeHunt : jose: thats too gambly for me
[2017-02-14 10:19:17] jose : MikeHunt: in fact it is a hedge
[2017-02-14 10:19:46] MikeHunt : Dynamix: if it bull support breaks, it becomes a blood bath, the bottom is unknown but 400 is possible, probably 600s more likely
[2017-02-14 10:20:31] MikeHunt : jose: i'd rather keep the money and use it for lvg trade either way it goes
[2017-02-14 10:23:26] Dynamix : MikeHunt: Yeah, I would love to short till there and buy again at 666 hehehehe
[2017-02-14 10:23:29] Dynamix : My lucky number lolol
[2017-02-14 10:23:48] MikeHunt : Dynamix: satan with ADL you ;)
[2017-02-14 10:23:55] MikeHunt : will
[2017-02-14 10:23:58] Dynamix : MikeHunt: FUCK SATAN
[2017-02-14 10:24:01] Dynamix : im moving to bitfinex
[2017-02-14 10:24:04] Dynamix : can they ADL me there?
[2017-02-14 10:24:11] MikeHunt : i wanna 50x long the bottom as well
[2017-02-14 10:24:21] MikeHunt : if we get ETF pass i suspect we'll see ADL on longs
[2017-02-14 10:24:24] Dynamix : I wanna 100x everything, get out of debt
[2017-02-14 10:24:28] Dynamix : and start my life already lol :|
[2017-02-14 10:24:41] MikeHunt : what sort of debt?
[2017-02-14 10:24:49] Dynamix : Family, car accident
[2017-02-14 10:24:58] Dynamix : wreckd the car and fences and shit lol
[2017-02-14 10:25:02] MikeHunt : doesnt insurance cover accidents?
[2017-02-14 10:25:09] Dynamix : It was my fault still...
[2017-02-14 10:25:18] Dynamix : Drink driving + speed + wet floor
[2017-02-14 10:25:25] Dynamix : = Boom boom boom, scrap car haa
[2017-02-14 10:25:26] MikeHunt : ahh
[2017-02-14 10:25:32] MikeHunt : get caught by the popo?
[2017-02-14 10:25:34] Dynamix : all 4 sides were fucked
[2017-02-14 10:25:37] Dynamix : Yup
[2017-02-14 10:25:51] MikeHunt : ouch
[2017-02-14 10:26:05] Dynamix : Yup...
[2017-02-14 10:26:13] Dynamix : Well , 3 btc will get me out of this ...
[2017-02-14 10:26:43] jose : Dynamix: if you need 3000 USD just find a job mate
[2017-02-14 10:26:59] Dynamix : jose: I tried finding one, but without experience
[2017-02-14 10:27:05] Dynamix : nobody will hire me lol
[2017-02-14 10:27:17] Dynamix : and working a 9-5 is not my thing, I'll rather long btc and make £100 that way faster
[2017-02-14 10:27:18] MikeHunt : even if u did make the money back, makes me question whether you'd have learned your lesson
[2017-02-14 10:27:29] Dynamix : Trust me Mike, I always learn my lessons
[2017-02-14 10:27:46] Dynamix : Like today with my short and limit to 975
[2017-02-14 10:27:51] Dynamix : next time I choose a round number like that
[2017-02-14 10:27:56] Dynamix : ima pick 976 :@
[2017-02-14 10:28:04] Dynamix : instead of 975 :@ so I can GTFO fast :@
[2017-02-14 10:28:35] MikeHunt : well if ur trading and not gambling thats good to hear i guess
[2017-02-14 10:28:49] MikeHunt : and 9-5 does suck balls (unless u got fun job)
[2017-02-14 10:28:54] Dynamix : MikeHunt: lOL, its doing both right?
[2017-02-14 10:29:05] Dynamix : MikeHunt: What kind of job is fun mate ? None I think haha
[2017-02-14 10:29:14] MikeHunt : Dynamix: video game development?
[2017-02-14 10:29:15] Dynamix : I hear all my friends who work complaining haha
[2017-02-14 10:29:21] Dynamix : Man's just there like bitch what you on about haha
[2017-02-14 10:29:30] Dynamix : MikeHunt: You will not have a life if you go into that imo
[2017-02-14 10:29:39] MikeHunt : Dynamix: why?
[2017-02-14 10:29:43] Dynamix : After getting wife and kids ur whole life would be stresseed
[2017-02-14 10:29:52] Dynamix : because... Games take time to develop
[2017-02-14 10:29:59] Dynamix : bugs, and if your not a good coder GG
[2017-02-14 10:30:21] Dynamix : just start a shopify business lol
[2017-02-14 10:30:26] MikeHunt : Dynamix: well wife/kids can wait until i hav $$
[2017-02-14 10:30:27] Dynamix : Easy with the 60 day trial ;)
[2017-02-14 10:30:36] Dynamix : MikeHunt: Yupp, I have the same mentality hehe
[2017-02-14 10:30:40] MikeHunt : starting a family b4 ur minted is not a good idea hence most ppl are poor
[2017-02-14 10:30:52] Dynamix : By the time im 30 I want to get my life proper sorted, have a good business running
[2017-02-14 10:30:53] Dynamix : and all that :D
[2017-02-14 10:31:01] Dynamix : I'm lucky to still be 19 I guess haha
[2017-02-14 10:31:04] Dynamix : how old are u ?
[2017-02-14 10:31:06] JoMamustani : hi, newly joined, how is it here at BitMex?
[2017-02-14 10:31:16] MikeHunt : late 20s
[2017-02-14 10:31:26] Dynamix : JoMamustani: We're the best here :)
[2017-02-14 10:31:38] MikeHunt : game development takes time but taking an idea of your own and making it real is fun
[2017-02-14 10:31:40] Dynamix : MikeHunt: Nice nice :) So you've been online for quiet a bit you know the ropes haha
[2017-02-14 10:31:52] Dynamix : MikeHunt: Yeah, I would just hire developers lol haha
[2017-02-14 10:32:01] Dynamix : I'm lazy like that haha
[2017-02-14 10:32:02] jung1 : Dynamix: you have to be +21 to trade here
[2017-02-14 10:32:04] MikeHunt : i hire a lot of stuff out
[2017-02-14 10:32:09] MikeHunt : jung1: lol
[2017-02-14 10:32:11] Dynamix : jung1: Shhhhhhhhhhh :)) haha
[2017-02-14 10:32:13] jung1 : or you have to provide declaration from your parents
[2017-02-14 10:32:27] Dynamix : jung1: Lol, tell me more please
[2017-02-14 10:32:41] JoMamustani : Comparisons, I am moving away from WhaleClub because their financing rates started to become ridicoulous
[2017-02-14 10:32:42] jung1 : I know moderatrs here
[2017-02-14 10:32:58] Dynamix : jung1: Please dont snitch on me, You know snitches get stiches ? haha
[2017-02-14 10:33:17] JoMamustani : I was wandering what kind of financing rates BitMex offers?
[2017-02-14 10:33:20] MikeHunt : jung1: u playing gestapo today?
[2017-02-14 10:33:30] Dynamix : JoMamustani: What do you mean by that :?
[2017-02-14 10:33:30] JoMamustani : for Leveraged Positions
[2017-02-14 10:33:35] Dynamix : Get rich quick scheme
[2017-02-14 10:33:49] jung1 : JA
[2017-02-14 10:34:07] Dynamix : Yess my nigga mar 31 going up <£
[2017-02-14 10:34:13] JoMamustani : Dynamix: for mainating a postion open what is the daily finance rate
[2017-02-14 10:34:16] MikeHunt : JoMamustani: all handled by auto deleverage and funding on swap iirc
[2017-02-14 10:34:21] Dynamix : I love hedging hehe
[2017-02-14 10:34:40] Dynamix : Get mar 31 to 1015 ? :P
[2017-02-14 10:34:57] JoMamustani : MikeHunt: so no daily financing rates?
[2017-02-14 10:35:15] Dynamix : Dump this shitcoin heheh
[2017-02-14 10:35:46] MikeHunt : JoMamustani: well funding is sorta that, depends on market direction thou
[2017-02-14 10:35:56] MikeHunt : bitmex gets $ from trade fees
[2017-02-14 10:36:24] JoMamustani : like a commission when you open a position?
[2017-02-14 10:36:29] Ahhere : Is it possible to see a chart of mark price anywhere?
[2017-02-14 10:36:47] JoMamustani : is there chart for fees and what not?
[2017-02-14 10:37:25] jung1 : Ahhere: http://bitmex.kaiko.com/
[2017-02-14 10:37:32] MikeHunt : JoMamustani: yeh
[2017-02-14 10:37:42] MikeHunt : JoMamustani: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2017-02-14 10:38:09] JoMamustani : cheers, that was really helpful :)
[2017-02-14 10:40:14] jung1 : ok reaload guys
[2017-02-14 10:42:38] JoMamustani : whats the maker and taker fees? I don't get it
[2017-02-14 10:42:46] guacamole : JoMamustani: bitmex only charges a commission, no funding rates since no one is actually lending you money. swap does have a funding rate exchanged between users to keep it in line with index - it changes depending on demand
[2017-02-14 10:42:58] guacamole : sometimes shorts pay and longs receive, sometimes the other way around
[2017-02-14 10:43:30] guacamole : or you can buy the march 31st futures instead and avoid having to think about it
[2017-02-14 10:43:53] JoMamustani : How much is the commission?
[2017-02-14 10:44:26] MikeHunt : JoMamustani: maker = 0.075%
[2017-02-14 10:44:28] MikeHunt : oops
[2017-02-14 10:44:35] MikeHunt : taker = 0.075%
[2017-02-14 10:44:41] MikeHunt : maker = -0.025%
[2017-02-14 10:44:52] MikeHunt : so limit orders are maker
[2017-02-14 10:44:55] MikeHunt : taker is regular orders
[2017-02-14 10:45:13] ayy_lmao : only if limit orders is "post only"
[2017-02-14 10:45:32] MikeHunt : yeh, i think there are some other caveats as well
[2017-02-14 10:46:17] JoMamustani : so it can range between 0.1 to 0.245 on average, the fees
[2017-02-14 10:46:29] JoMamustani : taking everything into account
[2017-02-14 10:46:50] JoMamustani : Or am i not getting it?
[2017-02-14 10:50:04] limsta08 : @cnLedger Update: account balance threshold lowered to only 10K rmb (equivalent). Msg confirmed in okcoin QQ channel
[2017-02-14 10:50:08] limsta08 : Is it true?
[2017-02-14 10:50:16] limsta08 : Anyone can confirm it?
[2017-02-14 10:50:25] ayy_lmao : if you trade on march 31, the only fees you will pay are 0.075 for taking liquidity and you will receive 0.025 for giving liquidity
[2017-02-14 10:50:57] MikeHunt : JoMamustani: 0.075% * 2 = 0.15%
[2017-02-14 10:51:08] MikeHunt : limsta08: cnledger is pretty reliable
[2017-02-14 10:51:14] ayy_lmao : if you trade on swap, you endure the same fess plus whatever the funding rate is every 7-8 hours
[2017-02-14 10:52:39] JoMamustani : MikeHunt: and this is every 8 hours?
[2017-02-14 10:52:40] MikeHunt : swap is good for short term stuff at high lvg imo
[2017-02-14 10:52:47] MikeHunt : JoMamustani: yup
[2017-02-14 10:53:26] JoMamustani : MikeHunt: so 0.45 per day?
[2017-02-14 10:54:04] guacamole : JoMamustani: no, it varies and changes depending on demand
[2017-02-14 10:54:05] Ahhere : jung1: thanks you are like the link king around here
[2017-02-14 10:54:09] ayy_lmao : the only fee guaranteed on funding rate is what it says for the current rate
[2017-02-14 10:54:15] ayy_lmao : other than that, you can never know
[2017-02-14 10:54:20] guacamole : JoMamustani: it is every 8 hours though, yes
[2017-02-14 10:54:23] ayy_lmao : you can only assume
[2017-02-14 10:55:00] JoMamustani : is there an acceptable average just to have basic idea of costs
[2017-02-14 10:55:20] ayy_lmao : anything over 0.15 is uncommon
[2017-02-14 10:55:23] Dynamix : Is the total balance on the account calculating the positions value ?
[2017-02-14 10:55:32] Dynamix : with p/nl?
[2017-02-14 10:55:37] ayy_lmao : position value
[2017-02-14 10:55:38] guacamole : shorts are slightly favored, but beyond that it's tough to say
[2017-02-14 10:56:01] Dynamix : ayy_lmao: okay thanks
[2017-02-14 10:56:03] guacamole : recently it's been the reverse by a bit, longs have been getting paid more
[2017-02-14 10:56:20] ayy_lmao : so right now it says -0.14%
[2017-02-14 10:56:32] ayy_lmao : thats the same as opening a position twice with taker fee
[2017-02-14 10:56:46] ayy_lmao : shorts will pay that
[2017-02-14 10:56:51] ayy_lmao : longs will be payed
[2017-02-14 10:57:12] JoMamustani : so an average rate of 0.45% per day is the norm
[2017-02-14 10:57:20] ayy_lmao : not really
[2017-02-14 10:57:26] ayy_lmao : sometimes you get paid
[2017-02-14 10:57:29] ayy_lmao : sometimes you pay
[2017-02-14 10:57:33] ayy_lmao : sometimes it evens out
[2017-02-14 10:57:38] Ahhere : Someone mentioned the average for last year if you want a guide dont knwo what it was anyone?
[2017-02-14 10:57:41] Dynamix : Will i be able to send btc from one bitmex account to another ?
[2017-02-14 10:57:57] JoMamustani : y @Ahhere yeah that would be helpful
[2017-02-14 10:57:57] guacamole : Ahhere: that won't really be helpful since btc was constantly going up
[2017-02-14 10:58:31] Ahhere : guacamole: true but all info useful in context
[2017-02-14 10:58:44] Dynamix : guacamole: it will shit the bed again below 1k
[2017-02-14 10:58:47] guacamole : yes, can't argue that, but without the context it's probably damaging
[2017-02-14 10:59:18] ayy_lmao : if you dont want to worry about funding, trade march 31
[2017-02-14 11:00:40] Ahhere : ayy_lmao: keeping in mind swings are wild ?
[2017-02-14 11:00:44] JoMamustani : ayy_lmao: whats so special about march 31?
[2017-02-14 11:00:52] ayy_lmao : it can move freely
[2017-02-14 11:01:06] ayy_lmao : not tied to an index
[2017-02-14 11:01:26] ayy_lmao : meaning the price can go from $20 below and above swap price
[2017-02-14 11:02:16] ayy_lmao : unless you are 100x all in, its not an issue
[2017-02-14 11:03:23] guacamole : JoMamustani: it's just a futures contract, pays out index price march 31st
[2017-02-14 11:03:50] JoMamustani : okay, I guess I have to read up some more
[2017-02-14 11:04:19] MikeHunt : thats why i recommend swap for high lvg, since h17 can liq your balls
[2017-02-14 11:04:24] MikeHunt : not in a good way either ;)
[2017-02-14 11:04:31] JoMamustani : things were simpler at WhaleClub, but financing rates were becoming atrocious
[2017-02-14 11:04:32] ayy_lmao : JoMamustani: you understand the purpose of funding rate?
[2017-02-14 11:04:54] JoMamustani : ayy_lmao: no..... scratches head
[2017-02-14 11:05:27] ayy_lmao : the purpose of the swap is to keep the price inline with an index
[2017-02-14 11:05:59] JoMamustani : okay
[2017-02-14 11:06:00] ayy_lmao : so if there is a premium on swap compared to the pricing source, longs usually pay the funding rate
[2017-02-14 11:06:24] ayy_lmao : the idea is to discourage the price from moving too far away from index
[2017-02-14 11:06:33] ayy_lmao : that works the other way for shorts too
[2017-02-14 11:06:54] ayy_lmao : march 31 doesnt give a fuck about an index, so it does whatever it wants
[2017-02-14 11:07:06] JoMamustani : right I see
[2017-02-14 11:07:27] JoMamustani : so no costs incurred that day
[2017-02-14 11:07:56] JoMamustani : did I get It?
[2017-02-14 11:09:18] JoMamustani : ayy_lmao: thanks for explaining stuff, I need to read up on my own, then I will probably come back with more questions
[2017-02-14 11:09:28] JoMamustani : peace out :)
[2017-02-14 11:09:57] ayy_lmao : all i will say is, if you want to trade on a market that moves close to an index price play swap, if you want volatility play ,arch 31
[2017-02-14 11:10:00] jung1 : JoMamustani: test.bitmex.com
[2017-02-14 11:10:07] ayy_lmao : march 31*
[2017-02-14 11:11:33] l3f : rekt longs incoming
[2017-02-14 11:11:43] jung1 : back to 1000?
[2017-02-14 11:11:54] shery : china down again!
[2017-02-14 11:12:42] Dynamix : if this breaks 1012 we are going down to new lows hehe
[2017-02-14 11:13:05] l3f : Looks like chop
[2017-02-14 11:13:14] ayy_lmao : unless this breaks 1k, its chop
[2017-02-14 11:13:15] shery : Dynamix: 110 on stamp!
[2017-02-14 11:15:28] shery : china pump engine is so weak!
[2017-02-14 11:17:32] jung1 : so who said to go long on 1020?
[2017-02-14 11:17:35] jung1 : where is he?
[2017-02-14 11:18:27] Ahhere : jung1: long now we have broken highs since the dump and will continue up babes
[2017-02-14 11:18:32] Dynamix : jung1: Well many people said that
[2017-02-14 11:18:40] Dynamix : Ahhere: No we wont lolol
[2017-02-14 11:18:49] MikeHunt : on the 1day this is still a dead cat im
[2017-02-14 11:18:54] jung1 : yeah now its good time to reload
[2017-02-14 11:19:10] Dynamix : To long mar 31 ? :D
[2017-02-14 11:20:01] Ahhere : That kaiko chart not working :( @jung1
[2017-02-14 11:20:20] jung1 : if you have good marign and you are patient you will be on plus
[2017-02-14 11:20:48] jung1 : Ahhere: mark price is based on kaiko index
[2017-02-14 11:21:33] Ahhere : jung1: i know but cant get a chart of it to work
[2017-02-14 11:24:15] jung1 : dunno
[2017-02-14 11:26:00] Farzad : another dump comming
[2017-02-14 11:26:03] Farzad : get ready boyz
[2017-02-14 11:28:40] y1uy : this be bull trap
[2017-02-14 11:31:16] MikeHunt : y1uy: yeh, bull thought could go higher, blood time... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIUoUHoPlEs&t=1m41s
[2017-02-14 11:31:56] Farzad : look at this :
[2017-02-14 11:31:56] Farzad : REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 107000 @ 1000.17 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-02-14 11:32:09] Farzad : REKT : Sell your house, sell your wife, sell your kids, BUY BITCOIN!
[2017-02-14 11:32:11] Farzad : LOL
[2017-02-14 11:32:18] shery : Farzad: OMG
[2017-02-14 11:32:26] Farzad : 107K contracts !
[2017-02-14 11:32:38] Farzad : someone has really been rekt
[2017-02-14 11:32:56] shery : Farzad: Thats why we moved up so quickly
[2017-02-14 11:33:09] Noobz : yesterday there was s 400k+ rekt... that gotta hurt
[2017-02-14 11:33:34] Farzad : Noobz: oh really ?! OMG
[2017-02-14 11:33:55] Farzad : shery: I'm glad I was long on XBTH17. lol
[2017-02-14 11:34:23] shery : Farzad: Lol you must be thankfull to rekt
[2017-02-14 11:34:48] Farzad : shery: yes, everyone praise REKT god
[2017-02-14 11:35:05] Farzad : may he rekt everybody who opposes our trades. LOL
[2017-02-14 11:35:17] shery : Farzad: Lol
[2017-02-14 11:35:17] Farzad : anybody *
[2017-02-14 11:35:36] shery : Farzad: still long?
[2017-02-14 11:35:51] Farzad : no, short now and I already in profit
[2017-02-14 11:36:03] Farzad : shorted on 1012
[2017-02-14 11:36:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 3 @ 1001.30 :punch: :whale:
[2017-02-14 11:36:16] shery : Farzad: but did we touched 1012?
[2017-02-14 11:36:30] MikeHunt : shery: 1012.39
[2017-02-14 11:36:52] shery : I guess we will drop after funding!
[2017-02-14 11:36:53] Farzad : shery: yes !
[2017-02-14 11:37:26] Farzad : how is it possible to get rekt by 3 contracts !?
[2017-02-14 11:37:44] shery : Farzad: 3 contracts?
[2017-02-14 11:37:52] MikeHunt : probably nog lol
[2017-02-14 11:37:55] Farzad : yes, look at latest rekt message
[2017-02-14 11:38:44] shery : btc e strted betting , btc betting , won 30 $ today Lol
[2017-02-14 11:44:27] Farzad : I can write a new chat bot. any suggestions ?
[2017-02-14 11:45:15] jung1 : Farzad: when you type in trollbox /price it will post price for finex, stamp and okcoin
[2017-02-14 11:45:46] MikeHunt : /price
[2017-02-14 11:45:54] Farzad : jung1: it is a great idea !
[2017-02-14 11:45:55] jung1 : and /whattodo it will post long or short
[2017-02-14 11:46:10] Farzad : I can definitely do it
[2017-02-14 11:46:33] Farzad : I had more trolly ideas, but this one is really useful
[2017-02-14 11:46:52] jung1 : dont make a garbage here
[2017-02-14 11:46:58] jung1 : trollbox on bitmex is pretty cool
[2017-02-14 11:47:15] Farzad : it is called trollbox for a reason :p
[2017-02-14 11:47:22] Noobz : /rekt make a summary of total of rekts. epic rekts. Mega rekts and Rektosaurus and the total of contracts getting rekt
[2017-02-14 11:47:38] Noobz : last 24 hours
[2017-02-14 11:47:44] jung1 : +1
[2017-02-14 11:47:57] Farzad : +1
[2017-02-14 11:48:09] Nutella : is sleger here? some said here he has many
[2017-02-14 11:48:21] Farzad : well, I guess bitmex should start paying me. LOL
[2017-02-14 11:48:37] jung1 : you can make easy money here
[2017-02-14 11:48:48] jung1 : and we can accept you
[2017-02-14 11:48:52] jung1 : someday
[2017-02-14 11:48:58] jung1 : worth it
[2017-02-14 11:49:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 10000 @ 997.92
[2017-02-14 11:49:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 1500 @ 995.98
[2017-02-14 11:49:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 1000 @ 995.03
[2017-02-14 11:49:35] l3f : oh lord
[2017-02-14 11:49:35] shery : REKT: so that was you?
[2017-02-14 11:49:52] jung1 : long time no see my friend
[2017-02-14 11:50:10] Farzad : jung1: how to make easy money ? :D
[2017-02-14 11:50:11] shery : dump time!
[2017-02-14 11:50:24] Nutella : easy many? i want it too!
[2017-02-14 11:50:37] jung1 : buy high, sell low. stay classy
[2017-02-14 11:51:05] l3f : Whoever bought at 1020 is in pain now
[2017-02-14 11:51:12] Farzad : jung1: It is what I am already doing, but for some unknown reason my equity is getting lower ! LOL
[2017-02-14 11:51:25] rapidtrades : this is hilarious
[2017-02-14 11:51:40] MikeHunt : just look on 1 day chart
[2017-02-14 11:51:45] MikeHunt : to resume old bull run it'd have to jump to 1070
[2017-02-14 11:51:51] MikeHunt : longer it goes on the further it has to go
[2017-02-14 11:52:05] y1uy : haha
[2017-02-14 11:52:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 1 @ 989.34 :punch: :whale:
[2017-02-14 11:52:43] y1uy : this is ull trap day
[2017-02-14 11:52:46] Farzad : 1 ????
[2017-02-14 11:52:48] Ahhere : Oh shorts the rekts are flying in lol 1 dollar
[2017-02-14 11:52:55] Ahhere : someone practicing
[2017-02-14 11:52:57] -_- : Dump time
[2017-02-14 11:53:07] rapidtrades : lol holy crap
[2017-02-14 11:53:11] rapidtrades : wtf march
[2017-02-14 11:53:16] rapidtrades : march no
[2017-02-14 11:53:21] ayy_lmao : LOL
[2017-02-14 11:53:22] rapidtrades : wtf
[2017-02-14 11:53:32] REKT : Next stop - goblin town!
[2017-02-14 11:53:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 1000 @ 980.80
[2017-02-14 11:53:37] l3f : lmao march
[2017-02-14 11:53:42] y1uy : lol
[2017-02-14 11:53:45] y1uy : rektening
[2017-02-14 11:53:57] Dynamix : lol
[2017-02-14 11:54:00] rapidtrades : who trades march? monkeys on acid?
[2017-02-14 11:54:01] l3f : back to zero
[2017-02-14 11:54:02] Dynamix : getting rekd on mar 31
[2017-02-14 11:54:03] MikeHunt : just like i said, h17 can liq ur balls real quick
[2017-02-14 11:54:03] Dynamix : lolol
[2017-02-14 11:54:19] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: sup
[2017-02-14 11:54:26] rapidtrades : told u the twins wont let this go up or down
[2017-02-14 11:54:29] arbitrage101 : dont insult your ancestors
[2017-02-14 11:54:37] rapidtrades : we're stuck at 1k until ETF decision
[2017-02-14 11:54:39] arbitrage101 : we are all money boys
[2017-02-14 11:54:46] arbitrage101 : monkey boys i mean
[2017-02-14 11:54:53] rapidtrades : then its all doom
[2017-02-14 11:55:01] -_- : nice fake out pump
[2017-02-14 11:55:04] jung1 : keep falling my friend
[2017-02-14 11:55:12] -_- : trap those longs
[2017-02-14 11:55:14] jung1 : bitcoin is dead
[2017-02-14 11:55:19] MikeHunt : being stuck at 1k aint too bad, means less likely to breach 800
[2017-02-14 11:55:23] -_- : lol that bounce
[2017-02-14 11:55:26] l3f : RIP
[2017-02-14 11:55:29] ayy_lmao : LOL
[2017-02-14 11:55:32] -_- : $25 bounce okc quarterly
[2017-02-14 11:55:32] jung1 : finex 1000
[2017-02-14 11:55:35] Dynamix : Who said to long
[2017-02-14 11:55:43] Dynamix : at $1020 ? get rekd now haha
[2017-02-14 11:55:52] jung1 : some guy
[2017-02-14 11:55:55] jung1 : dont know
[2017-02-14 11:55:58] MikeHunt : i hope @Papou got out at 1020
[2017-02-14 11:56:05] rapidtrades : lol back at 25 discount
[2017-02-14 11:56:08] rapidtrades : u can't even
[2017-02-14 11:56:19] Dynamix : We going back up lol
[2017-02-14 11:56:34] rapidtrades : sadly we're not going anywhere
[2017-02-14 11:56:43] arbitrage101 : we are going to moon
[2017-02-14 11:56:46] arbitrage101 : moooon
[2017-02-14 11:56:47] rapidtrades : I hope the SEC mans up soon and ends this deadlock
[2017-02-14 11:56:53] arbitrage101 : yes
[2017-02-14 11:56:59] jung1 : funny day
[2017-02-14 11:57:00] arbitrage101 : rekt shorty once and for all
[2017-02-14 11:57:03] rapidtrades : GROW SOME BALLS FEGS
[2017-02-14 11:57:05] Dynamix : Buy mar 31 hehehe
[2017-02-14 11:57:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 15000 @ 972.90
[2017-02-14 11:57:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 5001 @ 973.32
[2017-02-14 11:57:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 32 @ 972.46
[2017-02-14 11:57:37] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 400 @ 972.36
[2017-02-14 11:57:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 9960 @ 995.07
[2017-02-14 11:57:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 500 @ 6485.7
[2017-02-14 11:57:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10218 @ 995.69
[2017-02-14 11:57:42] -_- : 962
[2017-02-14 11:57:45] jung1 : weee
[2017-02-14 11:57:47] -_- : wow
[2017-02-14 11:57:49] -_- : so bearish
[2017-02-14 11:57:51] l3f : Oh fugg
[2017-02-14 11:57:57] Dynamix : Fuck rekd my liquid lol
[2017-02-14 11:57:58] MikeHunt : yes we're bouncing...down LOL
[2017-02-14 11:58:00] rapidtrades : wtf march
[2017-02-14 11:58:01] Dynamix : that 5001 lol
[2017-02-14 11:58:01] MikeHunt : WHOES LAUGHING NOW? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIUoUHoPlEs&t=1m41s
[2017-02-14 11:58:02] ayy_lmao : looooool
[2017-02-14 11:58:03] Tetsuo : LOLOLOLOLOL
[2017-02-14 11:58:05] rapidtrades : calm the f down
[2017-02-14 11:58:10] micmix : nice okc dump
[2017-02-14 11:58:11] jung1 : haha
[2017-02-14 11:58:16] arbitrage101 : 90 dollars spread
[2017-02-14 11:58:22] jung1 : ok IM out with 250%
[2017-02-14 11:58:23] arbitrage101 : guess you are right, micmix
[2017-02-14 11:58:28] rapidtrades : march needs to be institutionalized
[2017-02-14 11:58:29] arbitrage101 : 100+ spread soon
[2017-02-14 11:58:59] jung1 : Im ok for today
[2017-02-14 11:59:06] Tetsuo : FUKK U BULLFOOLS U GOT GOOLED
[2017-02-14 11:59:06] jung1 : catch two waves
[2017-02-14 11:59:06] Derreck : what caused this pump to 1020? any news?
[2017-02-14 11:59:07] rapidtrades : $90 spread where?
[2017-02-14 11:59:17] Tetsuo : Derreck: bulltrap
[2017-02-14 11:59:18] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: okc and march here