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[2017-02-14 00:52:04] Tetsuo : great....
[2017-02-14 00:52:16] -_- : but if okco1n.cn goes down the whole ship goes down i'd think
[2017-02-14 00:52:46] Dynamix : -_-: yupp and it might do ...
[2017-02-14 00:52:50] jung1 : cant complain
[2017-02-14 00:53:02] -_- : and that would be the end of LTC. segwit wont even save it
[2017-02-14 00:53:09] Dynamix : Fucking long it so I can get filled already :@
[2017-02-14 00:53:22] Tetsuo : -_-: LTC&ETC total death
[2017-02-14 00:53:30] -_- : for sure
[2017-02-14 00:53:43] Dynamix : Short eth too ?
[2017-02-14 00:53:43] Dynamix : haha
[2017-02-14 00:53:51] Secup : nah , long eth
[2017-02-14 00:53:59] Secup : ppl will move to eth
[2017-02-14 00:54:01] -_- : okco1n.cn has 100 btc above 6650 cny right now
[2017-02-14 00:54:16] -_- : not sure who is buying. buy and pray you can withdraw it in 30 days
[2017-02-14 00:54:31] Dynamix : is okcoin with leverage ?
[2017-02-14 00:54:35] -_- : i suppose if you dont want to withdraw to bank account you only have 1 option
[2017-02-14 00:54:49] -_- : but wouldnt you let it dump and wait till withdraws are enabled to buy
[2017-02-14 00:54:49] Dynamix : People can still use the BTC card ;)
[2017-02-14 00:56:32] Tetsuo : where is okkcoin.com registered?
[2017-02-14 00:56:39] Tetsuo : i thought hongkong
[2017-02-14 00:56:43] Tetsuo : can´t find it on the website
[2017-02-14 00:57:03] rapidtrades : hk
[2017-02-14 00:58:42] Dynamix : Its dumping time boyzzz
[2017-02-14 00:59:38] Dynamix : Longing the top is not what you wanna do
[2017-02-14 00:59:51] -_- : hong kong
[2017-02-14 01:00:07] -_- : but you guys said long a hour ago
[2017-02-14 01:00:17] -_- : and now look. price dropped $10 on xbth17
[2017-02-14 01:00:22] -_- : do the opposite of you kids
[2017-02-14 01:01:05] crmun : 30$ discount is quite tempting
[2017-02-14 01:01:22] Dynamix : crmun: on wht ?
[2017-02-14 01:01:29] crmun : xbth
[2017-02-14 01:01:43] crmun : good r/r to go long
[2017-02-14 01:02:51] -_- : $25 discount
[2017-02-14 01:03:04] -_- : oh oh
[2017-02-14 01:03:11] -_- : okco1n.cn hitting 6650 cny
[2017-02-14 01:03:32] -_- : insiders taking advantage of the lack of competition
[2017-02-14 01:03:46] -_- : take down website for everyone then dump
[2017-02-14 01:04:15] Tetsuo : THX OKSCAM!
[2017-02-14 01:05:16] kryptopojken : -_-: thats bullshit
[2017-02-14 01:05:38] kryptopojken : no sorry
[2017-02-14 01:05:41] kryptopojken : read wrong lol
[2017-02-14 01:07:19] kryptopojken : theyre not even dumping though
[2017-02-14 01:07:24] kryptopojken : still 50btc bid at 6650
[2017-02-14 01:08:45] crmun : dumping is hard if there is no lev
[2017-02-14 01:09:00] -_- : it was 90ish
[2017-02-14 01:09:37] -_- : okco1n usd at 984
[2017-02-14 01:10:02] -_- : i would think that would follow stamp and finex
[2017-02-14 01:11:21] okco1nbearwhale : Soooooooon!
[2017-02-14 01:13:59] -_- : someone with ten thousand btc trapped on okco1n wants to dump
[2017-02-14 01:14:00] -_- : go for it
[2017-02-14 01:14:26] crmun : dont be stupid
[2017-02-14 01:15:14] crmun : no one dumps 10k btc on illiquid exchange with empty books
[2017-02-14 01:15:15] gujiguji : Okco1n.cn blocked non-Chinese IP?
[2017-02-14 01:15:19] Tetsuo : -_-: is this confirmed?
[2017-02-14 01:15:30] Tetsuo : gujiguji: chinese IP also
[2017-02-14 01:16:11] Tetsuo : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/5tqsa2/daily_discussion_monday_february_13_2017/ddpmnq7/
[2017-02-14 01:16:13] rapidtrades : hmmm whats going on fellas
[2017-02-14 01:16:26] Tetsuo : LOOKS BAD MAN
[2017-02-14 01:16:35] gujiguji : Tetsuo: a few friends in China don't have problem accessing it
[2017-02-14 01:18:00] yungyang : We okay on mainland
[2017-02-14 01:18:56] Dynamix : Fun times ahead
[2017-02-14 01:22:18] -_- : ah
[2017-02-14 01:22:27] -_- : now how are we suppose to see okco1n order book
[2017-02-14 01:22:49] -_- : i guess we follow bitstamp now and okco1n usd
[2017-02-14 01:23:01] -_- : okco1n quarterly
[2017-02-14 01:28:05] rapidtrades : march is not recovering
[2017-02-14 01:28:32] -_- : i know
[2017-02-14 01:28:41] -_- : 24 hours ago they were happy with $8 discount
[2017-02-14 01:28:48] rapidtrades : this is bad
[2017-02-14 01:28:49] -_- : now $23 discount is ok
[2017-02-14 01:28:55] rapidtrades : i feel a storm coming
[2017-02-14 01:29:33] rapidtrades : @sleger do u know a storm is coming?
[2017-02-14 01:29:40] rapidtrades : know=think
[2017-02-14 01:30:56] rapidtrades : so if okc cn goes down, litecoin basically dies with it
[2017-02-14 01:31:20] rapidtrades : cos they're the majority of the volume
[2017-02-14 01:31:41] -_- : first they get rid of margin, the add fees, then disable withdraws, then disable anyone outside of china from accessing anything okco1n.cn
[2017-02-14 01:32:28] rapidtrades : its true, can't access it anymore
[2017-02-14 01:34:22] -_- : it was good while it lasted
[2017-02-14 01:34:27] -_- : but all good things come to an end
[2017-02-14 01:34:31] aethlios : rapidtrades: is okcoin.cn down for chinese or only for outsiders??
[2017-02-14 01:34:38] -_- : only outsiders
[2017-02-14 01:34:43] rapidtrades : chnese say its ok
[2017-02-14 01:34:51] -_- : so we dont even know the price any more
[2017-02-14 01:35:01] rapidtrades : wouldn't this block outside mm tho
[2017-02-14 01:35:03] -_- : so if it dumps not sure how finex and stamp bots will know
[2017-02-14 01:35:16] rapidtrades : okc usd works
[2017-02-14 01:35:22] Ugly_Old_Goat : Mexico trading at 1030, Kraken 998, Polo 997 Bitstamp 998 Coinbase 998 China is simply not a player anymore
[2017-02-14 01:35:31] aethlios : so it is working now? does cryptowat has real cny price???
[2017-02-14 01:35:58] -_- : we still got okco1n.com
[2017-02-14 01:36:10] -_- : and the futures platform we can follow
[2017-02-14 01:37:00] aethlios : cryptowat stopped, okcoin.com has index with 3 out of 6 exchanges to be chinese big 3
[2017-02-14 01:38:36] rapidtrades : so selling 1 LTC contract here is same as selling 1 litecoin?
[2017-02-14 01:39:03] arbitrage101 : good morning, fellow trolls
[2017-02-14 01:39:06] arbitrage101 : how is everyone doing
[2017-02-14 01:39:18] arbitrage101 : happily paying funding?
[2017-02-14 01:39:32] rapidtrades : not in the mood for ur shit arb boy
[2017-02-14 01:39:44] rapidtrades : we're doing srs business here
[2017-02-14 01:39:52] arbitrage101 : discount + funding must be treating you nice
[2017-02-14 01:40:16] rapidtrades : keep picking ur those pennies
[2017-02-14 01:41:38] rapidtrades : @sleger where u at
[2017-02-14 01:42:00] Tetsuo : flyin to china, tryin to get his stash out of okcoin.com
[2017-02-14 01:42:04] rapidtrades : aethlios: what do u think is going on here?
[2017-02-14 01:42:10] -_- : i guess if you not from china and left btc on okco1n.cn you are fu*ked
[2017-02-14 01:42:21] rapidtrades : yikes
[2017-02-14 01:42:25] -_- : they say thank you for your donation
[2017-02-14 01:42:26] rapidtrades : that's a scary thought
[2017-02-14 01:42:47] Tetsuo : -_-: also chinese people not living in china, fokked
[2017-02-14 01:42:50] rapidtrades : good thing micmix pulled out when he did
[2017-02-14 01:43:00] Tetsuo : yep
[2017-02-14 01:43:27] rapidtrades : hope sleger doesn't have his shit over there
[2017-02-14 01:43:43] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: i have many shits on many places
[2017-02-14 01:43:57] arbitrage101 : like to keep my shit all over the world
[2017-02-14 01:44:00] arbitrage101 : my legacy
[2017-02-14 01:44:15] aethlios : rapidtrades: who knows?? but i think okcoin.com is safe, hong kong pased and no cny trading, basically is for outsiders.
[2017-02-14 01:44:34] Tetsuo : lol@safe
[2017-02-14 01:44:40] rapidtrades : its the same compnay tho
[2017-02-14 01:45:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 60 @ 6552.7
[2017-02-14 01:45:02] rapidtrades : aethlios: LTC below 1 if okc is going down?
[2017-02-14 01:45:15] micmix : aethlios: current discount on .com reflects counterparty risk, probably not totally priced in yet. I expect bigger discounts
[2017-02-14 01:45:44] arbitrage101 : micmix: already place some bets on okc.com
[2017-02-14 01:45:59] arbitrage101 : hopefully, the risk is not as high as what you think
[2017-02-14 01:46:21] Dynamix : This is going to shiit
[2017-02-14 01:46:26] rapidtrades : i have a bad feeling about this man
[2017-02-14 01:46:28] arbitrage101 : maybe i should withdraw some btc and have high leverage position over there
[2017-02-14 01:46:57] Tetsuo : i remember when gox was trading 400$ lower, everyone sent usd ... rekt or before that when they were trading 150$ higher and everyone sent their BTC to sell there.... rekt
[2017-02-14 01:46:57] rapidtrades : micmix: do u have a bad feeling too?
[2017-02-14 01:47:02] aethlios : micmix: okcoin index is 50% cny, so shorting there you short the cny btc in china.
[2017-02-14 01:47:31] aethlios : no don't think okcoin.cn with effect ltc long term.
[2017-02-14 01:47:31] kryptopojken : Dynamix: not sure about that
[2017-02-14 01:47:35] kryptopojken : hubi is pumping this
[2017-02-14 01:48:56] arbitrage101 : anyway, without china, i dont think btc price will be this high
[2017-02-14 01:48:58] j8 : micmix: i think the fact that the discount isn't being arbed reflects counterparty risk, moreso than the discount itself
[2017-02-14 01:49:43] arbitrage101 : discount is just what traders' sentiment and opinion
[2017-02-14 01:49:51] l3f : Is Bitmex_Sam here?
[2017-02-14 01:49:54] arbitrage101 : could be right, could be wrong
[2017-02-14 01:50:28] j8 : it hasn't spread to bitmex though, which means people aren't willing to pour funds into okc to arb it
[2017-02-14 01:50:49] arbitrage101 : i place some bets there using 2 times leverage
[2017-02-14 01:51:04] arbitrage101 : should the spread widen, will use higher leverage
[2017-02-14 01:51:29] arbitrage101 : shorting at bitmex should be safer
[2017-02-14 01:51:40] arbitrage101 : if okc go bust, price will go down a lot anyway
[2017-02-14 01:51:49] Dynamix : arbitrage101: short and ho to sleep?
[2017-02-14 01:51:57] aethlios : arbitrage101: better buy weekly and roll over every week, not the quarterly
[2017-02-14 01:52:04] Dynamix : Go bust what u mean ?
[2017-02-14 01:52:26] arbitrage101 : Dynamix: mtgox type bust
[2017-02-14 01:52:34] l3f : arbitrage101: why is that?
[2017-02-14 01:52:44] j8 : arbitrage101: i don't see a 2x long as safe at all over there
[2017-02-14 01:52:59] Dynamix : arbitrage101: lool nahh not gonna happen
[2017-02-14 01:53:07] Dynamix : 500 per btc is gone mate lolol
[2017-02-14 01:53:36] arbitrage101 : j8: i mean if they halt withdraw, my long there will probably be gone, but the price will go down a lot here and on the western exchanges
[2017-02-14 01:54:16] arbitrage101 : hence the risk is not that high if traders can short at safer place
[2017-02-14 01:54:17] Dynamix : j8: 100x short
[2017-02-14 01:55:13] j8 : arbitrage101: yeah maybe, but it's already disconnected from reality, you could have been rekt at 720 the other day and bitmex stayed over 900
[2017-02-14 01:55:35] Dynamix : If bfx drops beliw 995 we going to shiit
[2017-02-14 01:57:05] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/bRRJplQ2/ crazy?
[2017-02-14 01:57:19] Tetsuo : looks good
[2017-02-14 01:58:05] Tetsuo : bit too bullish maybe
[2017-02-14 01:58:31] Dynamix : aethlios: just some lines and squiggly line
[2017-02-14 01:58:39] arbitrage101 : getting worry also, will test some withdraw ok okc
[2017-02-14 01:59:14] Tetsuo : still no reply about my withdraw 3 hours later
[2017-02-14 01:59:34] arbitrage101 : Tetsuo: from okc?
[2017-02-14 01:59:42] Tetsuo : .com yeah
[2017-02-14 01:59:51] arbitrage101 : did you verify?
[2017-02-14 01:59:52] Dynamix : Would u guys short or long b4 going bed ?
[2017-02-14 01:59:59] Tetsuo : arbitrage101: yes
[2017-02-14 02:00:07] arbitrage101 : Dynamix: normally i have neutral position
[2017-02-14 02:00:09] Ugly_Old_Goat : Tetsuo: lcomplete fairy tale
[2017-02-14 02:00:16] Dynamix : arbitrage101: lol
[2017-02-14 02:00:28] arbitrage101 : so i sleep quite well every night
[2017-02-14 02:00:29] Dynamix : Fair enough
[2017-02-14 02:00:33] arbitrage101 : but waking up is not
[2017-02-14 02:00:40] Dynamix : I sleep well
[2017-02-14 02:00:45] j8 : arbitrage101: yeah, well i've been playing the same game, and it's risky. i did just have a withdrawal go through no problem
[2017-02-14 02:00:48] Tetsuo : Ugly_Old_Goat: https://picload.org/image/ropilprr/okoo.jpg
[2017-02-14 02:01:00] Tetsuo : stop bullfuddin and bullshittin everyone goat
[2017-02-14 02:01:03] arbitrage101 : j8: should be safe then, for today
[2017-02-14 02:01:16] arbitrage101 : worry about tomorrow later
[2017-02-14 02:01:49] j8 : sure.
[2017-02-14 02:02:06] Dynamix : I love dumps
[2017-02-14 02:02:42] Ugly_Old_Goat : Tetsuo: +Yes, the OKcon clients are going to get clipped. Most thought that all along. If the market breaks I am a buyer
[2017-02-14 02:02:57] Tetsuo : china just woke up, they´re eating a bowl of rice drink some coffee then dump
[2017-02-14 02:03:31] Tetsuo : Ugly_Old_Goat: u just told me that i´m tellin fairytales, now you´re sayin "everyone knows"???
[2017-02-14 02:03:37] -_- : https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/btcchina/btccny
[2017-02-14 02:03:39] Nutella : hello
[2017-02-14 02:03:48] -_- : time for bitcoinwisdom to replace okco1n with that at the top
[2017-02-14 02:03:48] Tetsuo : Nutella: plz stop it
[2017-02-14 02:03:53] Dynamix : Mar 31 down to the core
[2017-02-14 02:04:03] Nutella : everyone here so mean
[2017-02-14 02:04:17] Tetsuo : get used to it :-)
[2017-02-14 02:04:32] Ugly_Old_Goat : No I saithe chart you posted is a fairytale
[2017-02-14 02:04:42] -_- : 6,256,418 open contracts on march. longs gonna get rekt when this dips below 900
[2017-02-14 02:04:50] -_- : discount gonna be like $60+
[2017-02-14 02:04:53] Nutella : my daddy was right
[2017-02-14 02:04:54] Tetsuo : Ugly_Old_Goat: i didn´t post any chart though
[2017-02-14 02:05:07] Nutella : he told me, stay away from poors, they are not happy people
[2017-02-14 02:05:11] Tetsuo : Nutella: he said BTC=ponzi scam?
[2017-02-14 02:06:02] Tetsuo : Kill the poor!
[2017-02-14 02:06:27] rapidtrades : the poor are [pretty awful
[2017-02-14 02:06:55] arbitrage101 : just withdraw 5btc from okc.com
[2017-02-14 02:07:02] Tetsuo : good for you
[2017-02-14 02:07:04] arbitrage101 : take less than 2 mins
[2017-02-14 02:07:06] rapidtrades : ok good
[2017-02-14 02:07:11] arbitrage101 : safe for today
[2017-02-14 02:07:13] arbitrage101 : weee
[2017-02-14 02:07:14] rapidtrades : arbitrage101: did u get the coins tho?
[2017-02-14 02:07:17] arbitrage101 : let's celebrate
[2017-02-14 02:07:29] arbitrage101 : it is on blockchain
[2017-02-14 02:07:35] arbitrage101 : 0 confirmation
[2017-02-14 02:07:36] Tetsuo : mtgox cherrypicked also, they let 30-40% withdrew for a while
[2017-02-14 02:07:46] Tetsuo : arbitrage101: mine didn´t even appear on the blockchain
[2017-02-14 02:07:51] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: what exactly happened
[2017-02-14 02:07:52] Tetsuo : altough it said complete
[2017-02-14 02:07:58] Tetsuo : ^this
[2017-02-14 02:08:07] aethlios : I just made a withdrawal from okcoin.com just in 1 minute left okcoin.
[2017-02-14 02:08:08] Tetsuo : 15 BTC
[2017-02-14 02:08:22] rapidtrades : yikes that's a lot of money
[2017-02-14 02:08:32] Tetsuo : it is
[2017-02-14 02:08:56] Tetsuo : scammin rice eatin bastards
[2017-02-14 02:09:18] rapidtrades : aethlios: how big was urs if u don't mind telling us
[2017-02-14 02:09:28] aethlios : 30
[2017-02-14 02:09:46] rapidtrades : wow.....y so unlucky Tetsuo
[2017-02-14 02:09:52] Tetsuo : bad karma?
[2017-02-14 02:09:53] Secup : So ya, okcoin accessible from china
[2017-02-14 02:10:04] rapidtrades : maybe cos u bragged about avoiding all previous scams and hacks
[2017-02-14 02:10:12] Tetsuo : :-D yep
[2017-02-14 02:10:32] aethlios : Tetsuo: withdraw all or keep trading there?
[2017-02-14 02:10:59] Tetsuo : i withdrew about 60 a few days ago, 15 was all that i had left
[2017-02-14 02:11:04] Dynamix : Tetsuo: where u get so much btc lol
[2017-02-14 02:11:12] Tetsuo : sex cam
[2017-02-14 02:11:23] Dynamix : So many rich kids here
[2017-02-14 02:11:28] Secup : Lol
[2017-02-14 02:11:42] Dynamix : Tetsuo: wanna duo sex cam ! ??
[2017-02-14 02:11:55] aethlios : Tetsuo: I have some more to arb weekly, to risk it or not??
[2017-02-14 02:12:19] Dynamix : Dooown we goo
[2017-02-14 02:12:20] Tetsuo : aethlios: withdaw everything until you know it´s safe again, if ever...
[2017-02-14 02:12:33] -_- : someone stacking 1,000+ contracts walls on the okco1n quarterly bid side
[2017-02-14 02:12:51] -_- : few whales trying to prevent a fall
[2017-02-14 02:12:58] arbitrage101 : Tetsuo: big fish you are
[2017-02-14 02:13:04] rapidtrades : those big walls are almost always fake
[2017-02-14 02:14:23] Tetsuo : sold 50% of my cold storage in december @ 880$, juicy cash on my bank account, almost 200 BTC. never going to put in back in BTC
[2017-02-14 02:14:33] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: take down the wall if you think it is fake
[2017-02-14 02:14:46] rapidtrades : i took down ur mom last night
[2017-02-14 02:15:06] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: and you are proud ?
[2017-02-14 02:15:27] rapidtrades : yes i am
[2017-02-14 02:15:42] Dynamix : Tetsuo: Send me like a couple brc lol
[2017-02-14 02:15:59] arbitrage101 : Tetsuo: i am about to live on the street
[2017-02-14 02:16:02] Dynamix : 3k debt to pay lol
[2017-02-14 02:16:04] arbitrage101 : spare some btc?
[2017-02-14 02:16:15] Tetsuo : suicide is always an option?
[2017-02-14 02:16:19] arbitrage101 : 30k debt to pay
[2017-02-14 02:16:30] -_- : i wanna short btc and hope it dumps like 20%+ and hope i dont get adl
[2017-02-14 02:16:31] Dynamix : arbitrage101: wow
[2017-02-14 02:16:38] -_- : then i will be a happy person
[2017-02-14 02:16:43] Dynamix : Tetsuo: i had thought about it lol
[2017-02-14 02:16:47] arbitrage101 : me too
[2017-02-14 02:16:56] arbitrage101 : when i was about to jump off the building
[2017-02-14 02:17:01] arbitrage101 : i think about my cat
[2017-02-14 02:17:03] Tetsuo : well life sucks, iagree
[2017-02-14 02:17:05] Dynamix : Lol
[2017-02-14 02:17:07] arbitrage101 : who is going to take care of my cat
[2017-02-14 02:17:27] Dynamix : Cats can live alone lol
[2017-02-14 02:17:42] Dynamix : easy on street to find rats n shit
[2017-02-14 02:17:44] arbitrage101 : not my fat cat
[2017-02-14 02:18:11] Dynamix : Good night i hope btc shorts till 975
[2017-02-14 02:18:22] Dynamix : and 950 on mar 31
[2017-02-14 02:18:33] -_- : shit is so weird. okco1n quarterly trying to pump while # of contracts go up
[2017-02-14 02:18:46] Tetsuo : i wish u good luck and hope it drops to 800$ by the end of the week
[2017-02-14 02:18:47] -_- : pretty sure no one knows which way this is going and just doing whatever
[2017-02-14 02:19:00] Tetsuo : okkoin insiders know
[2017-02-14 02:19:07] Dynamix : Tetsuo: myhh
[2017-02-14 02:19:26] Dynamix : 800 is a drwam
[2017-02-14 02:19:34] -_- : quarterly okc has had the hardest time breaking 900 and now it seems it's about to. long futures
[2017-02-14 02:19:49] arbitrage101 : Tetsuo: is your position hedged?
[2017-02-14 02:20:13] arbitrage101 : or perma bull like many
[2017-02-14 02:20:18] Tetsuo : no i only have a very small position here
[2017-02-14 02:20:23] Tetsuo : i´m def. no permabull
[2017-02-14 02:20:38] Tetsuo : i think this shit about to go down
[2017-02-14 02:20:56] arbitrage101 : hard to say
[2017-02-14 02:21:04] arbitrage101 : what if the etf is approve
[2017-02-14 02:21:12] arbitrage101 : shorty going to go bust
[2017-02-14 02:21:14] Tetsuo : if it drops a bit more i´m going to sell the rest of my not so cold storage on bitstamp
[2017-02-14 02:22:44] Tetsuo : hate bitcoin and i hate the bitcoin community
[2017-02-14 02:22:50] Tetsuo : some of u guys in here are fun though
[2017-02-14 02:22:54] Tetsuo : :-)
[2017-02-14 02:24:24] aethlios : what do you think about deribit?? in what country are they?? think legit??
[2017-02-14 02:26:04] j8 : slightly sketchy. somewhere in eastern europe i think
[2017-02-14 02:26:13] Sultan Pepper : Tetsuo: don't hate, man
[2017-02-14 02:26:35] Sultan Pepper : im sure you're heated, but it'll be ok
[2017-02-14 02:27:07] Tetsuo : no joy, only hate -> feels good man :-D
[2017-02-14 02:27:51] rapidtrades : wtf just happened
[2017-02-14 02:28:04] rapidtrades : did anyone else get a pop up from bitmex
[2017-02-14 02:28:07] Sultan Pepper : I did that for tetsuo
[2017-02-14 02:28:19] mutato : something about CNY weighting
[2017-02-14 02:28:23] rapidtrades : wtf
[2017-02-14 02:28:24] aethlios : j8: as an alternative for okcoin.
[2017-02-14 02:28:24] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah that was us, we're clarifying the fate of the XBT/CNY index due to the okc.cn downtime
[2017-02-14 02:28:30] Sultan Pepper : yes it said what we're tracking now, but I missed it
[2017-02-14 02:28:37] BitMEX_Sam : We have managed to resolve data again from okc.cn so it is back in the index
[2017-02-14 02:28:42] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: it was too short to read
[2017-02-14 02:28:56] rapidtrades : too quick
[2017-02-14 02:28:56] BitMEX_Sam : We'll put a longer timeout on it next time
[2017-02-14 02:29:02] Sultan Pepper : BitMEX_Sam: can you post here please?
[2017-02-14 02:29:07] Sultan Pepper : what it said
[2017-02-14 02:29:11] Tetsuo : Sultan Pepper: https://youtu.be/pA59dMYG9IA?t=3m32s
[2017-02-14 02:29:16] BitMEX_Sam : > We are now resolving OKCoin.cn data and our XBT/CNY index has been reverted to 1/3 OKC.cn, Huobi, and BTCC.
[2017-02-14 02:29:29] j8 : aethlios: i don't think there's much more than dust for liquidity but i haven't checked in a while
[2017-02-14 02:29:51] rapidtrades : BitMEX_Sam: are u using mainland IP to access it now or what
[2017-02-14 02:30:09] Sultan Pepper : Tetsuo: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PTQTQvQ3bA0
[2017-02-14 02:30:28] BitMEX_Sam : Yes we have a number of servers we use worldwide for data access
[2017-02-14 02:30:34] Tetsuo : Sultan Pepper: :-)
[2017-02-14 02:30:38] Sultan Pepper : BitMEX_Sam: thank you brother
[2017-02-14 02:32:27] Tetsuo : BitMEX_Sam: do you think okkoin is doin a huge scam?
[2017-02-14 02:32:47] BitMEX_Sam : No; I think it's likely a misconfiguration
[2017-02-14 02:33:05] Tetsuo : hm, always so positive you bitmex guys ;-), thx though
[2017-02-14 02:34:21] j8 : aethlios: i haven't really looked at their futures though, just options
[2017-02-14 02:34:35] Sultan Pepper : I'm not sure who tracks what, so would finex or stamp charts be most accurate to us here?
[2017-02-14 02:34:58] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: okc.cn ws feed works outside of China but REST API doesn't
[2017-02-14 02:35:38] l3f : BitMEX_Sam: Hey I messaged the reddit admins
[2017-02-14 02:35:44] l3f : on the vote manipulation
[2017-02-14 02:35:50] BitMEX_Sam : Appreciate that
[2017-02-14 02:35:56] l3f : from Thunderstruck1918[A] via /r/reddit.com sent 5 hours ago Hi, We did find vote manipulation and took necessary actions. Thank you.
[2017-02-14 02:36:06] Tetsuo : which vote?
[2017-02-14 02:36:36] Tetsuo : coolest trollbox and polo won?
[2017-02-14 02:36:39] l3f : BitMEX_Sam: They replied and said they took necessary actions, don't see anything lol
[2017-02-14 02:36:53] l3f : Tetsuo: whaleclub shilling
[2017-02-14 02:36:53] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, they said something similar to me as well
[2017-02-14 02:37:08] BitMEX_Sam : It appears they're somewhat shadow-downvoted but the posts are still live... not very effective IMO.
[2017-02-14 02:37:43] Tetsuo : okkoin on bitcoinwisodm workin again
[2017-02-14 02:37:49] Tetsuo : .cn also up
[2017-02-14 02:39:03] l3f : BitMEX_Sam: I'm surprised they did anything at all
[2017-02-14 02:39:12] l3f : reddit admins are the biggest joke
[2017-02-14 02:39:36] l3f : I've been on reddit for 9 years
[2017-02-14 02:39:47] crmun : okco1n wisdom is working lads
[2017-02-14 02:40:12] crmun : time to long
[2017-02-14 02:41:27] micmix : okc.cn API is back
[2017-02-14 02:43:52] l3f : BitMEX_Sam: oh btw can you check this bug
[2017-02-14 02:43:56] l3f : make a new market stop
[2017-02-14 02:44:01] l3f : change the Stop Price
[2017-02-14 02:44:09] l3f : you get a notification but the price doesn't change in the UI
[2017-02-14 02:44:14] l3f : Chromium Linux
[2017-02-14 02:44:22] l3f : 56
[2017-02-14 02:45:01] Tetsuo : is insider trading allowed in china?
[2017-02-14 02:45:33] l3f : Tetsuo: you realise Chinese government is the biggest insider right?
[2017-02-14 02:45:42] Tetsuo : that´s why i ask
[2017-02-14 02:46:05] Tetsuo : "Findings – A major finding of the study is the paucity of insider trading cases and the lack of convictions for insider trading offences in China"
[2017-02-14 02:46:11] Tetsuo : http://www.emeraldinsight.com/doi/abs/10.1108/13590790810866881
[2017-02-14 02:46:19] Tetsuo : seems legit
[2017-02-14 02:46:40] crmun : chinese gov is okco1n top trader #1
[2017-02-14 02:46:56] crmun : ez money
[2017-02-14 02:47:10] crmun : sucking suckers btc
[2017-02-14 02:47:30] Tetsuo : okkcoinceo: hey pboc please don´t close our shop, let´s work together and milk the market "
[2017-02-14 02:48:01] BitBIT : it make sense
[2017-02-14 02:48:18] crmun : Tetsuo: i think it was other way pboc: you work for us or youre gone
[2017-02-14 02:48:23] micmix : lol, you think Chinese goverment is one person? it's all done on a p2p level
[2017-02-14 02:48:26] BitMEX_Sam : l3f: I can't reproduce that
[2017-02-14 02:48:28] BitMEX_Sam : Are you amending it in the list?
[2017-02-14 02:48:30] Tetsuo : i mean all the pumps and spikes before BAD BAD CHINA news....
[2017-02-14 02:48:45] Tetsuo : crmun: yep
[2017-02-14 02:49:02] micmix : cousin of a friend who works for pboc etc...
[2017-02-14 02:49:05] l3f : BitMEX_Sam: yeah
[2017-02-14 02:49:28] Tetsuo : even a total fool could see that okcoin and huobi have been playin the market with insider government news
[2017-02-14 02:49:45] Tetsuo : if the pboc doesn´t find or say anything about these activities then...
[2017-02-14 02:49:48] l3f : BitMEX_Sam: It appears to be working now, weird
[2017-02-14 02:50:04] BitMEX_Sam : We had this issue in a much older release but it hasn't popped back up since then.
[2017-02-14 02:50:48] micmix : yep, they knew about inspection before anyone else, most likely paid some people
[2017-02-14 02:51:47] Tetsuo : the game is rigged! :-D not that this is something new in bitcoin land
[2017-02-14 02:52:12] crmun : it was always like this
[2017-02-14 02:52:58] crmun : keeping on touch 24/7 with news is essential
[2017-02-14 02:53:24] crmun : trying to keep just 1 step after insiders
[2017-02-14 02:53:57] Tetsuo : we need a bot who copies cnledger twitter news into the trollbox
[2017-02-14 02:54:01] Tetsuo : micmix?
[2017-02-14 02:54:53] crmun : ?
[2017-02-14 02:58:26] Tetsuo : they really shouldn´t open an ETF as long as china has the possibility to manipulate a lot of the exchanges
[2017-02-14 02:59:55] Tetsuo : " primary challenge in the insider trading regulation comes from the fact that most insider trading cases involve high‐ranking government and party officials. The CSRC lacks the power to directly administer discipline and penalties on government officials and party cadres for insider trading offences."
[2017-02-14 03:01:13] arbitrage101 : the speculation is, if there are many traders betting long, chiese exchanges bet against them and ask pboc to inspect?
[2017-02-14 03:01:34] arbitrage101 : sound very chinese
[2017-02-14 03:02:25] l3f : Tetsuo: nah it is a lagging indicator
[2017-02-14 03:02:32] l3f : it always dumps before the news
[2017-02-14 03:03:53] crmun : Tetsuo: without high leverage and 0 fees china has no longer possibility to manipulate at the same scale
[2017-02-14 03:05:00] crmun : no volumizers
[2017-02-14 03:05:32] crmun : volume now is shit in china
[2017-02-14 03:05:43] crmun : no one will follow
[2017-02-14 03:06:12] crmun : it takes time but it will
[2017-02-14 03:06:58] Tetsuo : Thea will stay signifikant dir a few more months and control the market with news and futures Trading
[2017-02-14 03:07:53] crmun : look at qrtly futs, they moving 10s of $ and spot only few
[2017-02-14 03:08:44] crmun : ofc it wont be instant but give it some time
[2017-02-14 03:09:25] crmun : btc/usd will be the king and everybodyll follow the west
[2017-02-14 03:10:20] Sultan Pepper : Are you guys drunk?
[2017-02-14 03:10:42] crmun : all the time
[2017-02-14 03:11:11] crmun : no buzz no gains
[2017-02-14 03:13:16] Tetsuo : 20/24 H
[2017-02-14 03:13:52] Sultan Pepper : Is bitstamp the best tradingwisdom chart to follow?
[2017-02-14 03:14:08] crmun : yup we need sleep couple hours, then 3 beer for breakfast
[2017-02-14 03:14:08] Tetsuo : 2 bottles of redwine, feelin Goodyear
[2017-02-14 03:14:10] Sultan Pepper : Noob question, please don't kill me
[2017-02-14 03:14:42] crmun : bitstamp is the best for mid/long term
[2017-02-14 03:15:24] Sultan Pepper : Thanks
[2017-02-14 03:15:30] crmun : perfect fits in fib fans/retr etc
[2017-02-14 03:15:31] Sultan Pepper : you two: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1YCOT5LasKc
[2017-02-14 03:16:38] crmun : yup, thats me
[2017-02-14 03:18:01] Sultan Pepper : You think h17 will go much lower soon?
[2017-02-14 03:20:12] Sultan Pepper : Or back up a bit? Crmun tetsuo
[2017-02-14 03:20:25] crmun : xbch or xbth?
[2017-02-14 03:20:36] Sultan Pepper : Xbth
[2017-02-14 03:21:18] crmun : it is still on 20$ discount so go and figure it yourself
[2017-02-14 03:21:50] crmun : it was 30$ discount few hrs ago
[2017-02-14 03:22:12] Sultan Pepper : I'm guessing a reversal back to a slow upward creep, but I don't know if I should look out for someone feeling dumpy
[2017-02-14 03:22:48] Sultan Pepper : in say, 4-8 hours
[2017-02-14 03:23:06] crmun : do you think whales give time for everyone to short if they supposed to dump? hmmm.
[2017-02-14 03:23:40] Sultan Pepper : No. But same goes for a pump...
[2017-02-14 03:24:45] crmun : look at discounts on futures, does it looks like majority is long?
[2017-02-14 03:25:02] Sultan Pepper : majority short right?
[2017-02-14 03:25:21] crmun : everyone and his dog is short af
[2017-02-14 03:25:27] crmun : me thinks
[2017-02-14 03:25:32] Sultan Pepper : which would seem to work against shorts in my opinion
[2017-02-14 03:25:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 5 @ 0.011570
[2017-02-14 03:26:08] Sultan Pepper : Is my thinking wrong there?
[2017-02-14 03:30:44] aethlios : rates to borrow btc 0.085% at finex, usd 3 times less. never happened again
[2017-02-14 03:32:46] crmun : yup and check out shorts in total at finex they are huuuge
[2017-02-14 03:33:13] arbitrage101 : aethlios: that is because the funding rate is high
[2017-02-14 03:33:23] crmun : its something over 21k btc
[2017-02-14 03:33:25] arbitrage101 : and okc future went into deep discount
[2017-02-14 03:33:39] crmun : fuck okc
[2017-02-14 03:33:41] arbitrage101 : deep backwardation, i mean
[2017-02-14 03:33:50] aethlios : arbitrage101: yes much arb happening with okcoin.
[2017-02-14 03:34:22] arbitrage101 : there are some good traders expecting okc to blow up
[2017-02-14 03:34:34] crmun : hahahaha f*u*ck is "gently caress" hahahaha
[2017-02-14 03:34:35] arbitrage101 : or risk higher than the potential profit
[2017-02-14 03:34:57] aethlios : looks like things in china will get worse and worse until the market stops care and then up trend will resume.
[2017-02-14 03:35:18] arbitrage101 : wihtout china, btc will still be below 200
[2017-02-14 03:35:48] crmun : arbitrage101: r u on drugs?
[2017-02-14 03:36:21] aethlios : if etf don't gets approval, this goes down deep, no china no etf no block size solution etc.
[2017-02-14 03:36:21] crmun : change your doctor
[2017-02-14 03:37:23] aethlios : arbitrage101: https://www.tradingview.com/x/63zp0yq1/ don't you like that scenario?
[2017-02-14 03:37:49] arbitrage101 : i dont trade on chart or technical
[2017-02-14 03:37:52] rogue : bitcoin has more value when it's popular in a totalitarian country because it serves people more.
[2017-02-14 03:38:09] rogue : that's the lost china premium
[2017-02-14 03:38:24] crmun : china adoption is a lie
[2017-02-14 03:38:44] rogue : the hash rate doesn't lie
[2017-02-14 03:39:02] crmun : china is mining not accumulating
[2017-02-14 03:40:00] crmun : and selling thats why they turned on volumizers and fakes everything they could
[2017-02-14 03:40:53] crmun : qrtly futs manipulated by miners etc
[2017-02-14 03:41:16] crmun : they care $ not btc
[2017-02-14 03:41:36] crmun : luckily for us
[2017-02-14 03:42:38] crmun : and after pboc "the king is naked"
[2017-02-14 03:43:04] crmun : no volume, no whales,
[2017-02-14 03:44:33] crmun : now they sold us their btc and trying to take it back
[2017-02-14 03:44:50] rogue : It
[2017-02-14 03:45:02] rogue : It's ironic you asked arbitrage101 to change doctor
[2017-02-14 03:45:49] crmun : mine is giving me top notch shit not cheap one he is taking
[2017-02-14 03:47:03] crmun : look at chinese exchanges and their empty books mate, what you see?
[2017-02-14 03:47:35] rogue : I see captive crypto coins
[2017-02-14 03:47:55] rogue : I don't wanna know what happens when they can sell
[2017-02-14 03:47:58] crmun : 100btc market sell/buy would take us to the core/moon
[2017-02-14 03:48:45] crmun : china was a lie, deal with it
[2017-02-14 03:50:04] rogue : ok
[2017-02-14 03:50:27] l3f : we expecting pump or dump bois?
[2017-02-14 03:50:40] DorianWhack-A-Moto : expecting a trump
[2017-02-14 03:50:55] Sultan Pepper : We got that...
[2017-02-14 03:51:05] l3f : A lotta bears for a small forst
[2017-02-14 03:51:08] l3f : forest*
[2017-02-14 03:51:20] crmun : the point of view is depending are you long or short
[2017-02-14 03:51:36] Sultan Pepper : l3f: rocket fuel
[2017-02-14 03:51:58] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Need a positive story to get sentiment bullish again
[2017-02-14 03:52:41] aethlios : if this discount continue and high btc rates, then hedging costs 1.5% per month, we go back to stocks until premiums are back.
[2017-02-14 03:55:19] arbitrage101 : aethlios: where you come up with 1.5% per month
[2017-02-14 03:55:52] arbitrage101 : sound cheap now if you ask me
[2017-02-14 03:56:04] aethlios : arbitrage101: ok how much you think it is?? if you have 1 btc, how do you hedge?
[2017-02-14 03:56:46] arbitrage101 : if your long is paying more than double the rate you are borrowing, then it is cheap to borrow
[2017-02-14 03:56:56] aethlios : it's 18% per year.
[2017-02-14 03:56:56] arbitrage101 : assuming the risk is reasonble
[2017-02-14 03:58:08] aethlios : this will dump hard again soon.
[2017-02-14 03:58:18] arbitrage101 : are you sure?
[2017-02-14 03:58:44] arbitrage101 : are you rich yet? if you can read the future
[2017-02-14 03:58:55] aethlios : it's obvious, sudden 10 minutes 70 usd dump okcoin.
[2017-02-14 03:59:03] arbitrage101 : buying the right lottery number is more profitable than trading bitcoin
[2017-02-14 03:59:11] j8 : i think in the unlikely scenario that this etf is approved, you will want to have actual coins, not long contracts
[2017-02-14 03:59:42] arbitrage101 : j8: any reason ?
[2017-02-14 03:59:54] arbitrage101 : rekt?
[2017-02-14 04:00:09] j8 : it's the only way to get 100% of the move when there's huge gaps
[2017-02-14 04:00:17] j8 : with no socialized losses / ADL
[2017-02-14 04:00:31] crmun : aethlios: define hard please, im not sarcastic, 50$ 150$?
[2017-02-14 04:00:40] arbitrage101 : you assume huge price jump on approval
[2017-02-14 04:01:20] j8 : i just picture this guy on okc building a massive short, which he will not be holding if it breaks up
[2017-02-14 04:02:10] j8 : yes i think it will be huge on the upside, but it's still an unlikely event
[2017-02-14 04:02:12] Tetsuo : it's not a Guy, it's okkoin themselves
[2017-02-14 04:02:29] l3f : crmun: goes to 100 usd per btc
[2017-02-14 04:02:34] arbitrage101 : Tetsuo: i am beginning to think this way also
[2017-02-14 04:02:36] j8 : a Guy owns okkoin
[2017-02-14 04:02:42] Tetsuo : Trier
[2017-02-14 04:02:47] Tetsuo : True
[2017-02-14 04:03:17] crmun : l3f: you wish, i wish but market doesnt care what we want
[2017-02-14 04:03:46] l3f : crmun: don't let your dreams stay dreams
[2017-02-14 04:03:48] Tetsuo : They would rather dump non existing coins on okcoin.cn than let this mrket go up,
[2017-02-14 04:04:05] Tetsuo : western are fighting against him right now, at least htis is what it looks in my drunk eyes
[2017-02-14 04:04:25] crmun : #1 is long bois
[2017-02-14 04:04:42] Tetsuo : they why the discount`?
[2017-02-14 04:05:00] Tetsuo : no#1 holds almost ~ 40$ of all contracts
[2017-02-14 04:05:07] Tetsuo : *%
[2017-02-14 04:05:14] crmun : he is holding more than 50% of contracts that is why
[2017-02-14 04:05:31] crmun : or little les