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[2017-02-13 22:03:42] tothemoon_ : bitcoin without china is even better than bitcoin without silkroad
[2017-02-13 22:04:16] MikeHunt : tothemoon_: u anti-dregs?
[2017-02-13 22:04:28] tothemoon_ : bearfools will cry all the way up to new ATH
[2017-02-13 22:04:57] MikeHunt : tothemoon_: lol....moonkids
[2017-02-13 22:05:44] rullwull : -_-: 50 btc is the wall?
[2017-02-13 22:08:48] -_- : once okco1n quarterly breaks 900 then we'll pump
[2017-02-13 22:11:10] tothemoon_ : 5
[2017-02-13 22:12:30] jung1 : HOW YOU CAN FACE THE PROBLEM IF PROBLEM IS YOUR FACE
[2017-02-13 22:25:10] ThruTheFloor : "bitcoin without china is even better than bitcoin without silkroad " yeah because losing 1/7th of the world population is a good thing
[2017-02-13 22:26:18] rapidtrades : its much worse then 1/7 cos they're the majority of the ecosystem
[2017-02-13 22:26:34] rapidtrades : 90% of mining and 60% of volume is there
[2017-02-13 22:26:59] rapidtrades : longterm it will be bad for traders too, cos the Chinese are crazy gamboloers
[2017-02-13 22:27:32] rapidtrades : no capital flight money, no gamoblore money
[2017-02-13 22:27:55] rapidtrades : everything pins of the ETF decision for the West
[2017-02-13 22:28:03] y1uy : bitfinex buy books is thin as paper
[2017-02-13 22:31:11] MikeHunt : http://i.imgur.com/1tvTYYe.png
[2017-02-13 22:31:12] MikeHunt : ^thats no china
[2017-02-13 22:36:00] BTCDJS : John wick 2
[2017-02-13 22:36:11] BTCDJS : that is all
[2017-02-13 22:37:37] guacamole : am i the only one that things that how funding relates to mark price is completely backwards? it should start at index and add funding proportionally over 8 hours, then reset to index again at the start of the next funding round
[2017-02-13 22:39:26] BTCDJS : Holy guacamole! You may be on to something!
[2017-02-13 22:39:57] guacamole : heh, not sure if that's agreement or you just wanted to say "holy guacamole!"
[2017-02-13 22:40:31] j8 : what's the difference though?
[2017-02-13 22:40:55] Dynamix : Buy buy buy hehhe
[2017-02-13 22:40:58] BTCDJS : I just wanted to say HG ?
[2017-02-13 22:41:21] guacamole : basically think of it like this: funding is what you're "earning" over the period of 8 hours for providing what the market has greater demand for - you start off with no profit and accumulate it over time
[2017-02-13 22:41:51] guacamole : then at the end of the round, you receive the funding, and it's subtracted from the mark price - making it completely smooth
[2017-02-13 22:42:26] guacamole : how it is now - funding is subtracted immediately at the beginning, and mark price = index at the end, despite the fact that one side is about to get paid
[2017-02-13 22:47:39] j8 : that is how it works though.. there has to be a discontinuity in the mark price, even though the funding payment makes your pnl more or less smooth
[2017-02-13 22:49:53] j8 : so what you're saying is it should go from index to index - funding, instead of from index + funding to index.. but only relative prices matter, its not an actual difference
[2017-02-13 22:51:41] BTCDJS : Makes sense
[2017-02-13 22:51:50] Dynamix : j8: So we should Short BTC ?
[2017-02-13 22:52:11] BTCDJS : Dynamix: wtf
[2017-02-13 22:52:17] j8 : do what your inner child tells you
[2017-02-13 22:52:18] guacamole : j8: i believe it matters when there's a large change in funding from one round to another - let's say funding goes from 0 one round to .375 the next - doesn't this mean that shorts are immediately penalized .375 the moment the index changes? if my understanding is right you could get liquidated from the mark change at funding
[2017-02-13 22:52:29] narnarfromnarnia : -.13 is that high?
[2017-02-13 22:52:36] Dynamix : lolol im high
[2017-02-13 22:52:47] guacamole : narnarfromnarnia: it's sorta high, but it bounces around
[2017-02-13 22:53:03] narnarfromnarnia : yeah so - pays shorts?
[2017-02-13 22:53:16] narnarfromnarnia : in 5hrs
[2017-02-13 22:54:03] j8 : guacamole: it's true, your equity jumps by the difference in funding rates. that's why there's a limit on the change in funding rate. I don't see how things would be any different in what you proposed
[2017-02-13 22:54:50] BTCDJS : There's a sell order for 30 COIN @ 100 buy them quick while it's cheap
[2017-02-13 22:57:03] guacamole : j8: because my way would make the mark price smooth relative to funding - mark price changes by exactly the amount your position is paid, making liquidations smooth. As it is now also penalizes people providing what is more needed to balance the price (shorts or longs)
[2017-02-13 23:04:01] Dynamix : We are gonna go to new highs boys look on bitfinex , getting
[2017-02-13 23:04:06] Dynamix : the strength to push up again heh
[2017-02-13 23:04:13] jung1 : yup
[2017-02-13 23:04:28] jung1 : stamp1000
[2017-02-13 23:05:05] Dynamix : coinbase 1004
[2017-02-13 23:07:49] guacamole : china bearish, rest of the world bullish
[2017-02-13 23:07:52] espadon : eth is pumping
[2017-02-13 23:08:06] espadon : on polo :(
[2017-02-13 23:11:25] confused : why does china still factor into the price here?
[2017-02-13 23:11:33] MikeHunt : bitanic is sinking....
[2017-02-13 23:11:35] MikeHunt : china make sink
[2017-02-13 23:11:36] MikeHunt : http://i.imgur.com/wee4t6L.png
[2017-02-13 23:11:58] cryptokeeper : Dont worry about it
[2017-02-13 23:12:17] j8 : guacamole: gotcha, it does seem to make sense, basically spreads the change in funding rate over 8 hours, so it could reduce liquidations at the funding time
[2017-02-13 23:13:57] tothemoon_ : 4
[2017-02-13 23:14:17] rapidtrades : srsly?
[2017-02-13 23:14:31] rapidtrades : DON'T MAKE ME ANRGY
[2017-02-13 23:15:06] guacamole : j8: yeah i don't see any downside, though it's good to have others doublecheck that the logic is sound - then if someone wants to take the further step of trying to convince bitmex
[2017-02-13 23:15:28] rapidtrades : stop shilling for the new index
[2017-02-13 23:16:00] guacamole : rapidtrades: i'm not talking about the index
[2017-02-13 23:16:39] rapidtrades : nvm i read that posts above
[2017-02-13 23:17:01] rapidtrades : i agree, it would be more logical to not have this lag
[2017-02-13 23:17:02] tothemoon_ : rapidtrades: no need to worry bro, when ur shorts blow up u might find urself also on the moon
[2017-02-13 23:17:15] rapidtrades : ur an idiot
[2017-02-13 23:17:29] j8 : yeah i'm not sure why they chose the way they did, there were a lot of changes all at once when they introduced it, and a lot of discussion around things, and that part was the least of our concerns at the time
[2017-02-13 23:17:54] rapidtrades : let's remind ourselves that noone liked the swap back then
[2017-02-13 23:18:16] rapidtrades : ppl don't like it much now either but they're used to it
[2017-02-13 23:18:18] tothemoon_ : can i smell rocket fuel in here?
[2017-02-13 23:18:23] j8 : it was a real mess, well bitmex never expected the funding charges to be anywhere near 0.375%
[2017-02-13 23:18:45] guacamole : guess i wasn't around to see all the problems when it was introduced - its got its ups and downs, nice not to get liquidated by futures markets spazzing out
[2017-02-13 23:18:52] rapidtrades : funding needs to be uncapped and applied without lag
[2017-02-13 23:19:09] tothemoon_ : nomnom nom cheap coins on Stamp, get em while you can, nomnomnm --> last tickets for the rocket are about to be sold
[2017-02-13 23:20:35] Dynamix : No point shorting lol, We are going back up
[2017-02-13 23:21:06] tothemoon_ : fasten your seatbelts
[2017-02-13 23:21:17] -_- : bitcoin heading back to earth
[2017-02-13 23:21:26] -_- : without china bitcoin is nothing
[2017-02-13 23:21:28] Dynamix : -_-: down to what price you think ?
[2017-02-13 23:21:32] -_- : worthless internet token
[2017-02-13 23:21:38] guacamole : rapidtrades: i think i agree, but i'm not sure if the 8 hour time would cause weird effects - like it spikes, driving funding sky high, then returns to normal, but funding is still incredibly high, forcing price off mark the other way
[2017-02-13 23:22:09] -_- : i'd pay Tree Fiddy for 1 bitcoin
[2017-02-13 23:22:25] guacamole : still, should be higher than .375 cap, and smooth mark price/liquidations would allow that
[2017-02-13 23:22:33] MikeHunt : if u use high lvg the funding is actually quite low
[2017-02-13 23:24:43] sleger : funding doesnt depend on lvg dummy
[2017-02-13 23:27:23] guacamole : does someone know what bitvc (huobi future) is arbitraged against? is there an equivalent with better liquidity? (i know there's okc, though it's slightly different)
[2017-02-13 23:28:41] sleger : did you mean to ask what their index is ?
[2017-02-13 23:28:44] rapidtrade : i´m closin my shorts here, looks like it will pump soon!
[2017-02-13 23:29:11] rapidtrade : next stop 3000$
[2017-02-13 23:29:23] sleger : I dont think you can run IRC on rapid's laptop
[2017-02-13 23:29:34] Ahhere : lol that sounds like rapidtrade
[2017-02-13 23:30:06] Ahhere : s
[2017-02-13 23:30:32] rapidtrade : last chance to buy below 1000$ and never look back again
[2017-02-13 23:30:34] guacamole : sleger: no i mean if there's a specific exchange used to arbitrage against it since there are clearly bots doing some kind of cross-exchange trading on there
[2017-02-13 23:30:58] guacamole : but they may just be eating the risk of different types of futures
[2017-02-13 23:33:03] guacamole : also huobi+bitvc always lag and disconnect for me, so not ideal
[2017-02-13 23:34:17] j8 : the XBC contract here has decent liquidity. of course china liquidity is way down these days
[2017-02-13 23:37:00] MikeHunt : sleger: 50k on 1x is more expensive than 50k on 50x
[2017-02-13 23:37:08] MikeHunt : at least thats what muh trade history says
[2017-02-13 23:37:09] guacamole : j8: yeah but 90% of liquidity is just the main marketmaker, it's fine if you want to buy just once and hold for 2 months, though if you're highly leveraged and market maker decides to drastically reduce liquidity and increase spreads...
[2017-02-13 23:37:15] sleger : MikeHunt: it is not dummy
[2017-02-13 23:37:17] aethlios : okcoin btc 967, are they only selling and deposit in cny??
[2017-02-13 23:37:19] sleger : 50k is 50k
[2017-02-13 23:37:36] MikeHunt : sleger: seems funding only charged against initial amount u put up
[2017-02-13 23:37:44] sleger : MikeHunt: it is not dummy
[2017-02-13 23:37:53] MikeHunt : sleger: well the fees for me have worked out that way
[2017-02-13 23:37:54] sleger : god you really dont understand much
[2017-02-13 23:38:03] sleger : someone tell him
[2017-02-13 23:38:10] Ahhere : ok coin dropping to 981
[2017-02-13 23:39:39] MikeHunt : sleger: nvm, forgot % adds two dec. places
[2017-02-13 23:39:57] sleger : oh boy
[2017-02-13 23:40:41] rapidtrades : aethlios: what do u mean? why would they deposit where they can't get out
[2017-02-13 23:41:40] aethlios : rapidtrades: I mean the opposite, they sell and deposit the yuan to their bank, they withdraw from okcoin huobi.
[2017-02-13 23:42:10] rapidtrades : yeah ofc they do that
[2017-02-13 23:42:25] aethlios : so china could be dropping steadily.
[2017-02-13 23:42:26] rapidtrades : that's what everyone here would do in the same situation
[2017-02-13 23:42:40] rapidtrades : im rly surprised the fall is this measured
[2017-02-13 23:42:46] j8 : they can buy and get their btc (maybe) in a month, so it's like a one month future with physical delivery, no leverage, and counterparty risk
[2017-02-13 23:42:51] rapidtrades : they prolly follow the West to some degree
[2017-02-13 23:43:21] rapidtrades : and in the west u have the winklewii trying to dampen vol by keeping prices around 1k
[2017-02-13 23:43:23] aethlios : so who is buying??
[2017-02-13 23:43:28] rapidtrades : the twins
[2017-02-13 23:43:42] MikeHunt : apparently a lot of chinese are waiting on exchanges
[2017-02-13 23:43:51] rapidtrades : that's why we won't go above 1k much
[2017-02-13 23:43:59] BTCDJS : Tweedle dee and tweedle dum?
[2017-02-13 23:44:03] rapidtrades : cos their goal isn't to pump but to dampen vol
[2017-02-13 23:44:07] MikeHunt : they dont wanna withdraw to bank cuz of aml etc.
[2017-02-13 23:44:10] aethlios : no in okcoin who is buying, since you can't withdraw btc you only can sell lower, yuan is going out of exchange.
[2017-02-13 23:44:31] rapidtrades : arbers etc...they follow the West to some degree
[2017-02-13 23:44:45] rapidtrades : i know slever is buying okc march for example
[2017-02-13 23:45:01] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: are you guessing or do you know?
[2017-02-13 23:45:03] rapidtrades : some ppl don't mind the counter-party risk
[2017-02-13 23:45:13] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: which part?
[2017-02-13 23:45:26] BTCDJS : All of it
[2017-02-13 23:45:50] aethlios : could we see china 500 and west 800? okcoin.com is safe but in okcoin.ch why they buy, okcoin.ch btc spread could widden more and more
[2017-02-13 23:46:18] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: the longer price remains stuck to 1k, the more convinced i become its the twins
[2017-02-13 23:47:03] rapidtrades : if we go much above it then the odds are its moonkids not the twins
[2017-02-13 23:47:07] BTCDJS : Tinfoil hat
[2017-02-13 23:47:26] rapidtrades : didn't the price their ETF with price of bitcoin 1k
[2017-02-13 23:47:35] BTCDJS : Mine is shaped like a boat
[2017-02-13 23:47:50] MikeHunt : i think even wen china does come online, we'll get dump due to the new checks/capital controls
[2017-02-13 23:48:07] Dynamix : that bfx pump lolol
[2017-02-13 23:48:26] BTCDJS : sleger: do you think rapid is right?
[2017-02-13 23:48:38] datboiyuan : rapidtrades: you're a silly goose
[2017-02-13 23:48:48] datboiyuan : 1k has nothing to do with the etf
[2017-02-13 23:48:52] rapidtrades : aethlios: the gap wont persist for long because after ETF is resolved we will crash as well
[2017-02-13 23:48:56] BTCDJS : datboiyuan: you're a gay teletubby
[2017-02-13 23:49:00] sleger : BTCDJS: no
[2017-02-13 23:49:04] datboiyuan : thanks!
[2017-02-13 23:49:24] datboiyuan : BTCDJS: I've seen you post your alt bags here
[2017-02-13 23:49:30] datboiyuan : you're the queer
[2017-02-13 23:49:38] datboiyuan : OMGSH DGB PLEASE PLEASE
[2017-02-13 23:49:41] datboiyuan : faggot
[2017-02-13 23:49:58] rapidtrades : sleger hasn't yet developed his critical thinking skills, he's not the best when it comes to fundamentals
[2017-02-13 23:50:17] MikeHunt : is drop? http://i.imgur.com/Xc5Q9KI.png
[2017-02-13 23:50:29] j8 : says the guy that paid $3000 for zec?
[2017-02-13 23:50:40] rapidtrades : IT WAS AN ARB
[2017-02-13 23:50:56] j8 : oh so it worked out great then
[2017-02-13 23:51:15] rapidtrades : I'd do it again in a second
[2017-02-13 23:51:27] rapidtrades : would've won if bitmex didn't cap the price
[2017-02-13 23:51:46] j8 : probably true
[2017-02-13 23:52:04] datboiyuan : if it weren't for those meddling kids!!!
[2017-02-13 23:56:03] narnarfromnarnia : wow it dropped to 950's?
[2017-02-13 23:56:10] narnarfromnarnia : i always miss the dips
[2017-02-13 23:58:18] guacamole : narnarfromnarnia: i always buy the futures like a sucker, then futures just stay where they are while the price goes up
[2017-02-13 23:58:48] narnarfromnarnia : yes but futures also range +20/-20 when perpetual stays the same too
[2017-02-13 23:58:52] guacamole : then price drops down $15 and everybody panics and they crash more
[2017-02-13 23:59:03] narnarfromnarnia : i saw 970 - 990 when perpetual didn't move
[2017-02-13 23:59:20] guacamole : that's too bad, i must have missed that one
[2017-02-14 00:00:08] guacamole : there's certainly opportunities to take advantage of futures if you're patient, but there's always a risk they just refuse to do what you expect after you buy in
[2017-02-14 00:00:50] Tetsuo : iust wanted to withdraw my last coins from okcoin.com ..... https://picload.org/image/ropilprr/okoo.jpg
[2017-02-14 00:01:15] rapidtrades : can smone tell me whats in teh pic
[2017-02-14 00:01:32] rapidtrades : don't trust u guys after my near haxing few days ago
[2017-02-14 00:01:32] Tetsuo : your mother on her knees
[2017-02-14 00:01:42] MikeHunt : ^ that
[2017-02-14 00:01:43] Tetsuo : who haxed u?
[2017-02-14 00:01:57] Tetsuo : also this on reddit, https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/5trxot/okcoincom_fake_withdraw_for_3_days/ddovg02/
[2017-02-14 00:02:36] MikeHunt : maybe okc is insolvent lol
[2017-02-14 00:02:42] MikeHunt : now that'd cause a crash
[2017-02-14 00:03:45] Tetsuo : never had any problems before, made about 2-300 withdraws in the last years
[2017-02-14 00:03:57] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: so what happened
[2017-02-14 00:04:06] rapidtrades : why don't u telll us instead of linking shit
[2017-02-14 00:04:33] Tetsuo : suck some monkey dick
[2017-02-14 00:04:50] rapidtrades : cos 9/10 in that reddit thread say they got their monies
[2017-02-14 00:05:21] Tetsuo : yeah , i tried 2 minutes after reading the thread, and surprise, i´m also a lucky one
[2017-02-14 00:06:26] rapidtrades : BTCDJS: help me understand this retard
[2017-02-14 00:06:26] Tetsuo : give my money u filthy scammin chinese
[2017-02-14 00:07:05] rapidtrades : Tetsuo: just type out what happened
[2017-02-14 00:07:20] MikeHunt : it cud only b a conspiracy if 9/11 didnt get their monies
[2017-02-14 00:08:00] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: click the link u fool
[2017-02-14 00:10:51] MikeHunt : Tetsuo: y didn u pul out aftr dey stp CN withdrwls?
[2017-02-14 00:11:19] Tetsuo : i did, already withdrew 80% of my account there
[2017-02-14 00:12:07] MikeHunt : Tetsuo: watch out with stamp btw if u have a lot of btc, they can do random anal quiz n lock up ur funds
[2017-02-14 00:12:21] MikeHunt : til u prove where they all came from
[2017-02-14 00:12:43] Tetsuo : i am using stamp for ~5 years , never had any problems, must trustworthy exchange in my eyes
[2017-02-14 00:13:01] Tetsuo : *most
[2017-02-14 00:13:32] MikeHunt : apparently they have hidden limits, if u dont pass them then ull b fine
[2017-02-14 00:14:54] robert2 : negative funding rate is positive for shorting ?
[2017-02-14 00:15:06] crmun : no
[2017-02-14 00:15:20] crmun : shorts pay
[2017-02-14 00:15:42] -_- : okco1n.cn down?
[2017-02-14 00:15:53] robert2 : ahh, ok, now shorting are paying ?
[2017-02-14 00:16:05] -_- : nope just btcwisdom feed
[2017-02-14 00:16:52] Dynamix : shorting time eh ? :P
[2017-02-14 00:17:37] BarefootFlash : Almost, haha
[2017-02-14 00:18:52] Dynamix : Seems like it doesnt wanna go up this place lol its hard af
[2017-02-14 00:19:06] BarefootFlash : Yup
[2017-02-14 00:20:20] BarefootFlash : Those big orders are stagnating our market
[2017-02-14 00:20:26] BarefootFlash : X_X
[2017-02-14 00:23:22] guacamole : placing large orders 2 cents apart... brilliant. can't commit to 1 cent i guess
[2017-02-14 00:23:26] kryptopojken : woodchipper.cn is down right?
[2017-02-14 00:23:50] Dynamix : kryptopojken: its .com
[2017-02-14 00:23:57] kryptopojken : different
[2017-02-14 00:24:05] Dynamix : oh shit yup
[2017-02-14 00:24:05] guacamole : kryptopojken: it appears to still be working
[2017-02-14 00:24:05] BarefootFlash : Yeah, crazy
[2017-02-14 00:24:07] Dynamix : its down ,
[2017-02-14 00:24:16] Dynamix : Got hacked
[2017-02-14 00:24:19] Dynamix : SELL boys selll
[2017-02-14 00:24:28] kryptopojken : non trade for 15m and site isnt working @guacamole
[2017-02-14 00:25:10] Dynamix : Are we going up or down ???
[2017-02-14 00:25:17] guacamole : kryptopojken: i'm seeing trades from 2 minutes ago and order book changing
[2017-02-14 00:25:18] BarefootFlash : Haha, seriously
[2017-02-14 00:25:28] kryptopojken : guacamole: on the CN site?
[2017-02-14 00:25:33] kryptopojken : where do u see this
[2017-02-14 00:25:39] guacamole : yes, on the .cn site
[2017-02-14 00:26:06] kryptopojken : can u access the site?
[2017-02-14 00:26:10] kryptopojken : i get cloudflare error
[2017-02-14 00:26:43] guacamole : i haven't tried reloading, and if you're right i probably shouldn't. i've just had it up for a while
[2017-02-14 00:26:53] jung1 : woodchiper is down?
[2017-02-14 00:26:58] jung1 : so down we go
[2017-02-14 00:27:00] Dynamix : jung1: yup
[2017-02-14 00:27:01] kryptopojken : guacamole: i see
[2017-02-14 00:27:27] BarefootFlash : Wow, there we go
[2017-02-14 00:28:04] kryptopojken : BarefootFlash: ? where
[2017-02-14 00:28:13] Dynamix : Does cn usually dump ?
[2017-02-14 00:28:21] -_- : okco1n.cn is up
[2017-02-14 00:28:27] Dynamix : After this shit happens ?
[2017-02-14 00:28:30] -_- : or maybe not
[2017-02-14 00:28:35] -_- : last trade 3 minutes ago
[2017-02-14 00:28:37] BarefootFlash : Ah, was waiting for XBTUSD to get unstuck
[2017-02-14 00:28:40] -_- : but their order book is still upadting
[2017-02-14 00:28:44] BarefootFlash : kryptopojken:
[2017-02-14 00:28:58] Dynamix : -_-: offline 4 me lol
[2017-02-14 00:29:01] kryptopojken : BarefootFlash: not much happening
[2017-02-14 00:29:13] Dynamix : ffs why did I exit my shit so soon
[2017-02-14 00:29:13] -_- : let me refresh
[2017-02-14 00:29:25] -_- : ERROR The request could not be satisfied.
[2017-02-14 00:29:27] -_- : lol
[2017-02-14 00:29:28] -_- : rekt
[2017-02-14 00:29:34] BarefootFlash : kryptopojken: Nah, it finally moved a bit after like 20 minutes of no trades
[2017-02-14 00:32:17] -_- : 2 trades just happened
[2017-02-14 00:32:22] -_- : okco1n insiders trading
[2017-02-14 00:33:32] -_- : how do we know when to dump if only a few can access okco1n.cn
[2017-02-14 00:33:33] Dynamix : lol
[2017-02-14 00:34:07] Dynamix : -_-: U positive on a dump here ? :P
[2017-02-14 00:34:10] rapidtrades : wtf
[2017-02-14 00:34:32] jung1 : yes
[2017-02-14 00:34:37] jung1 : accept it
[2017-02-14 00:34:47] BarefootFlash : Yeah, mos def
[2017-02-14 00:34:51] BarefootFlash : Just be patient ;)
[2017-02-14 00:35:09] Tetsuo : SCAM!
[2017-02-14 00:35:15] BarefootFlash : It's plateauing right now
[2017-02-14 00:35:19] rapidtrades : SCAM
[2017-02-14 00:35:55] Rado : this chat has become a sham
[2017-02-14 00:36:05] Rado : totally useless
[2017-02-14 00:36:09] Dynamix : Rado: U are a sham lolol
[2017-02-14 00:36:22] BarefootFlash : Just reading the trends
[2017-02-14 00:36:33] Rado : there is no trend
[2017-02-14 00:36:48] BarefootFlash : Haha, alright, whatever you say ;)
[2017-02-14 00:37:01] -_- : there needs to be a 1 BTC fee to chat. must have 1 BTC in your account
[2017-02-14 00:37:35] Rado : -_-: make that 10
[2017-02-14 00:37:39] Rado : will be perfect
[2017-02-14 00:37:51] zanza : was this chat ever useful? lol
[2017-02-14 00:37:52] Dynamix : -_-: U dont want me there ;(
[2017-02-14 00:37:53] -_- : then the same 10 people will be chatting
[2017-02-14 00:38:00] Rado : or at least have a separate channel
[2017-02-14 00:38:09] -_- : VIP channel
[2017-02-14 00:38:11] Dynamix : they have IRC ;)
[2017-02-14 00:38:15] Rado : that's a great idea
[2017-02-14 00:38:15] -_- : whale club
[2017-02-14 00:38:24] Rado : BitMex mods make it happen :-)
[2017-02-14 00:38:27] jung1 : agree
[2017-02-14 00:38:33] Rado : channel for accoutns with 10 BTC or more
[2017-02-14 00:38:38] -_- : convert the unused Chinese channel into VIP 10 BTC club
[2017-02-14 00:38:51] jung1 : or 21 club
[2017-02-14 00:38:58] BarefootFlash : VIP channel = manipulation 100%
[2017-02-14 00:39:01] BarefootFlash : Have fun with that
[2017-02-14 00:39:08] Rado : -_-: ?
[2017-02-14 00:39:20] Dynamix : we going back though
[2017-02-14 00:39:23] Dynamix : to 993 ;)
[2017-02-14 00:39:27] BarefootFlash : I'm outty
[2017-02-14 00:39:41] BarefootFlash : Dynamix: Probably. Just be careful. And good luck!
[2017-02-14 00:39:56] Dynamix : BarefootFlash: Aight.. Thanks
[2017-02-14 00:39:58] -_- : wait for china to make a move. probably 7 hours from now
[2017-02-14 00:40:10] Dynamix : lol
[2017-02-14 00:40:12] Dynamix : why 7hrs?
[2017-02-14 00:40:15] Dynamix : I sleep
[2017-02-14 00:40:17] Dynamix : 7 hrs
[2017-02-14 00:40:19] -_- : end of day news dump
[2017-02-14 00:40:29] -_- : "and okco1n has shut down"
[2017-02-14 00:40:55] Secup : How often it shutdown?
[2017-02-14 00:40:58] Dynamix : -_-: Hahahha that would be AWESOME news :D
[2017-02-14 00:41:12] Dynamix : I would short everything lol
[2017-02-14 00:41:53] Dynamix : Does anyone wanna buy fitbit ? :D cheap
[2017-02-14 00:44:21] -_- : Secup: rarely does it go down
[2017-02-14 00:44:31] -_- : it isnt technically down right now
[2017-02-14 00:44:42] -_- : just like 80% down
[2017-02-14 00:45:13] Secup : ok
[2017-02-14 00:45:26] Secup : that is somehow strange
[2017-02-14 00:46:35] Tetsuo : okkoin team is insider shorting on okcoin.com cuz they know that okcoin.cn gets closed ... or they shutdown their cn site to create some panic?.
[2017-02-14 00:46:45] Tetsuo : HUGE SCAM
[2017-02-14 00:47:07] Secup : well isnt good time to make some $ then ?
[2017-02-14 00:47:18] Dynamix : Tetsuo: lolol
[2017-02-14 00:47:48] Tetsuo : Dynamix: Bitfinex probably did similar things, so nothing new on the bitcoin exchange front
[2017-02-14 00:48:10] Dynamix : Stop the panic
[2017-02-14 00:48:12] Dynamix : lololol
[2017-02-14 00:48:19] Tetsuo : LOOKS BAD MAN
[2017-02-14 00:48:25] -_- : i wouldnt be surprised Tetsuo
[2017-02-14 00:48:38] -_- : because i thought the order book wouldnt be this empty still
[2017-02-14 00:48:53] Tetsuo : also my latest withdraw from okkorn.com 2 hours ago didn´t happen, still no reply
[2017-02-14 00:48:54] -_- : and 30 days to implement stuff is weird
[2017-02-14 00:49:11] Secup : okkorn
[2017-02-14 00:49:12] Secup : lol
[2017-02-14 00:49:21] Rado : I just bought 20k contracts XBTH17
[2017-02-14 00:49:25] Dynamix : -_-: myh
[2017-02-14 00:49:50] Dynamix : Will still stay around this price
[2017-02-14 00:50:03] Rado : best time to buy when everyone is expecting a dump
[2017-02-14 00:50:10] -_- : lol
[2017-02-14 00:50:15] Rado : see ya all later
[2017-02-14 00:50:18] Rado : going to the pool
[2017-02-14 00:50:20] Secup : no gonna stay like that in 45 mins tho
[2017-02-14 00:50:20] Dynamix : Rado: lolol haha
[2017-02-14 00:50:28] Dynamix : im short on that from 971
[2017-02-14 00:50:43] -_- : things are so fucked that once this starts moving it'll move in a big way.
[2017-02-14 00:51:00] Dynamix : We are going to make money
[2017-02-14 00:51:04] Dynamix : each way soo..
[2017-02-14 00:51:34] -_- : dump and people who bought high dump this to the $800's or random ass pump to squeeze the shorts
[2017-02-14 00:51:36] Tetsuo : is PBOC only investigating .cn or also .com?
[2017-02-14 00:51:47] -_- : .cn as far as i know
[2017-02-14 00:51:48] Secup : .com is up
[2017-02-14 00:51:54] -_- : .com is not in china
[2017-02-14 00:52:04] Tetsuo : great....
[2017-02-14 00:52:16] -_- : but if okco1n.cn goes down the whole ship goes down i'd think
[2017-02-14 00:52:46] Dynamix : -_-: yupp and it might do ...
[2017-02-14 00:52:50] jung1 : cant complain
[2017-02-14 00:53:02] -_- : and that would be the end of LTC. segwit wont even save it
[2017-02-14 00:53:09] Dynamix : Fucking long it so I can get filled already :@
[2017-02-14 00:53:22] Tetsuo : -_-: LTC&ETC total death
[2017-02-14 00:53:30] -_- : for sure
[2017-02-14 00:53:43] Dynamix : Short eth too ?
[2017-02-14 00:53:43] Dynamix : haha
[2017-02-14 00:53:51] Secup : nah , long eth
[2017-02-14 00:53:59] Secup : ppl will move to eth
[2017-02-14 00:54:01] -_- : okco1n.cn has 100 btc above 6650 cny right now
[2017-02-14 00:54:16] -_- : not sure who is buying. buy and pray you can withdraw it in 30 days
[2017-02-14 00:54:31] Dynamix : is okcoin with leverage ?
[2017-02-14 00:54:35] -_- : i suppose if you dont want to withdraw to bank account you only have 1 option
[2017-02-14 00:54:49] -_- : but wouldnt you let it dump and wait till withdraws are enabled to buy
[2017-02-14 00:54:49] Dynamix : People can still use the BTC card ;)
[2017-02-14 00:56:32] Tetsuo : where is okkcoin.com registered?
[2017-02-14 00:56:39] Tetsuo : i thought hongkong
[2017-02-14 00:56:43] Tetsuo : can´t find it on the website
[2017-02-14 00:57:03] rapidtrades : hk
[2017-02-14 00:58:42] Dynamix : Its dumping time boyzzz
[2017-02-14 00:59:38] Dynamix : Longing the top is not what you wanna do
[2017-02-14 00:59:51] -_- : hong kong
[2017-02-14 01:00:07] -_- : but you guys said long a hour ago
[2017-02-14 01:00:17] -_- : and now look. price dropped $10 on xbth17
[2017-02-14 01:00:22] -_- : do the opposite of you kids
[2017-02-14 01:01:05] crmun : 30$ discount is quite tempting
[2017-02-14 01:01:22] Dynamix : crmun: on wht ?
[2017-02-14 01:01:29] crmun : xbth
[2017-02-14 01:01:43] crmun : good r/r to go long
[2017-02-14 01:02:51] -_- : $25 discount
[2017-02-14 01:03:04] -_- : oh oh
[2017-02-14 01:03:11] -_- : okco1n.cn hitting 6650 cny
[2017-02-14 01:03:32] -_- : insiders taking advantage of the lack of competition
[2017-02-14 01:03:46] -_- : take down website for everyone then dump
[2017-02-14 01:04:15] Tetsuo : THX OKSCAM!
[2017-02-14 01:05:16] kryptopojken : -_-: thats bullshit
[2017-02-14 01:05:38] kryptopojken : no sorry
[2017-02-14 01:05:41] kryptopojken : read wrong lol
[2017-02-14 01:07:19] kryptopojken : theyre not even dumping though
[2017-02-14 01:07:24] kryptopojken : still 50btc bid at 6650
[2017-02-14 01:08:45] crmun : dumping is hard if there is no lev
[2017-02-14 01:09:00] -_- : it was 90ish
[2017-02-14 01:09:37] -_- : okco1n usd at 984
[2017-02-14 01:10:02] -_- : i would think that would follow stamp and finex
[2017-02-14 01:11:21] okco1nbearwhale : Soooooooon!
[2017-02-14 01:13:59] -_- : someone with ten thousand btc trapped on okco1n wants to dump
[2017-02-14 01:14:00] -_- : go for it
[2017-02-14 01:14:26] crmun : dont be stupid
[2017-02-14 01:15:14] crmun : no one dumps 10k btc on illiquid exchange with empty books
[2017-02-14 01:15:15] gujiguji : Okco1n.cn blocked non-Chinese IP?
[2017-02-14 01:15:19] Tetsuo : -_-: is this confirmed?
[2017-02-14 01:15:30] Tetsuo : gujiguji: chinese IP also
[2017-02-14 01:16:11] Tetsuo : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/5tqsa2/daily_discussion_monday_february_13_2017/ddpmnq7/
[2017-02-14 01:16:13] rapidtrades : hmmm whats going on fellas
[2017-02-14 01:16:26] Tetsuo : LOOKS BAD MAN
[2017-02-14 01:16:35] gujiguji : Tetsuo: a few friends in China don't have problem accessing it
[2017-02-14 01:18:00] yungyang : We okay on mainland
[2017-02-14 01:18:56] Dynamix : Fun times ahead
[2017-02-14 01:22:18] -_- : ah
[2017-02-14 01:22:27] -_- : now how are we suppose to see okco1n order book
[2017-02-14 01:22:49] -_- : i guess we follow bitstamp now and okco1n usd
[2017-02-14 01:23:01] -_- : okco1n quarterly
[2017-02-14 01:28:05] rapidtrades : march is not recovering
[2017-02-14 01:28:32] -_- : i know
[2017-02-14 01:28:41] -_- : 24 hours ago they were happy with $8 discount
[2017-02-14 01:28:48] rapidtrades : this is bad
[2017-02-14 01:28:49] -_- : now $23 discount is ok
[2017-02-14 01:28:55] rapidtrades : i feel a storm coming
[2017-02-14 01:29:33] rapidtrades : @sleger do u know a storm is coming?
[2017-02-14 01:29:40] rapidtrades : know=think
[2017-02-14 01:30:56] rapidtrades : so if okc cn goes down, litecoin basically dies with it
[2017-02-14 01:31:20] rapidtrades : cos they're the majority of the volume
[2017-02-14 01:31:41] -_- : first they get rid of margin, the add fees, then disable withdraws, then disable anyone outside of china from accessing anything okco1n.cn
[2017-02-14 01:32:28] rapidtrades : its true, can't access it anymore
[2017-02-14 01:34:22] -_- : it was good while it lasted
[2017-02-14 01:34:27] -_- : but all good things come to an end
[2017-02-14 01:34:31] aethlios : rapidtrades: is okcoin.cn down for chinese or only for outsiders??
[2017-02-14 01:34:38] -_- : only outsiders
[2017-02-14 01:34:43] rapidtrades : chnese say its ok
[2017-02-14 01:34:51] -_- : so we dont even know the price any more
[2017-02-14 01:35:01] rapidtrades : wouldn't this block outside mm tho
[2017-02-14 01:35:03] -_- : so if it dumps not sure how finex and stamp bots will know
[2017-02-14 01:35:16] rapidtrades : okc usd works
[2017-02-14 01:35:22] Ugly_Old_Goat : Mexico trading at 1030, Kraken 998, Polo 997 Bitstamp 998 Coinbase 998 China is simply not a player anymore
[2017-02-14 01:35:31] aethlios : so it is working now? does cryptowat has real cny price???
[2017-02-14 01:35:58] -_- : we still got okco1n.com
[2017-02-14 01:36:10] -_- : and the futures platform we can follow
[2017-02-14 01:37:00] aethlios : cryptowat stopped, okcoin.com has index with 3 out of 6 exchanges to be chinese big 3
[2017-02-14 01:38:36] rapidtrades : so selling 1 LTC contract here is same as selling 1 litecoin?
[2017-02-14 01:39:03] arbitrage101 : good morning, fellow trolls
[2017-02-14 01:39:06] arbitrage101 : how is everyone doing
[2017-02-14 01:39:18] arbitrage101 : happily paying funding?
[2017-02-14 01:39:32] rapidtrades : not in the mood for ur shit arb boy
[2017-02-14 01:39:44] rapidtrades : we're doing srs business here
[2017-02-14 01:39:52] arbitrage101 : discount + funding must be treating you nice
[2017-02-14 01:40:16] rapidtrades : keep picking ur those pennies
[2017-02-14 01:41:38] rapidtrades : @sleger where u at
[2017-02-14 01:42:00] Tetsuo : flyin to china, tryin to get his stash out of okcoin.com
[2017-02-14 01:42:04] rapidtrades : aethlios: what do u think is going on here?
[2017-02-14 01:42:10] -_- : i guess if you not from china and left btc on okco1n.cn you are fu*ked
[2017-02-14 01:42:21] rapidtrades : yikes
[2017-02-14 01:42:25] -_- : they say thank you for your donation
[2017-02-14 01:42:26] rapidtrades : that's a scary thought
[2017-02-14 01:42:47] Tetsuo : -_-: also chinese people not living in china, fokked
[2017-02-14 01:42:50] rapidtrades : good thing micmix pulled out when he did
[2017-02-14 01:43:00] Tetsuo : yep
[2017-02-14 01:43:27] rapidtrades : hope sleger doesn't have his shit over there
[2017-02-14 01:43:43] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: i have many shits on many places
[2017-02-14 01:43:57] arbitrage101 : like to keep my shit all over the world
[2017-02-14 01:44:00] arbitrage101 : my legacy
[2017-02-14 01:44:15] aethlios : rapidtrades: who knows?? but i think okcoin.com is safe, hong kong pased and no cny trading, basically is for outsiders.
[2017-02-14 01:44:34] Tetsuo : lol@safe
[2017-02-14 01:44:40] rapidtrades : its the same compnay tho
[2017-02-14 01:45:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 60 @ 6552.7
[2017-02-14 01:45:02] rapidtrades : aethlios: LTC below 1 if okc is going down?
[2017-02-14 01:45:15] micmix : aethlios: current discount on .com reflects counterparty risk, probably not totally priced in yet. I expect bigger discounts
[2017-02-14 01:45:44] arbitrage101 : micmix: already place some bets on okc.com
[2017-02-14 01:45:59] arbitrage101 : hopefully, the risk is not as high as what you think
[2017-02-14 01:46:21] Dynamix : This is going to shiit
[2017-02-14 01:46:26] rapidtrades : i have a bad feeling about this man
[2017-02-14 01:46:28] arbitrage101 : maybe i should withdraw some btc and have high leverage position over there
[2017-02-14 01:46:57] Tetsuo : i remember when gox was trading 400$ lower, everyone sent usd ... rekt or before that when they were trading 150$ higher and everyone sent their BTC to sell there.... rekt
[2017-02-14 01:46:57] rapidtrades : micmix: do u have a bad feeling too?
[2017-02-14 01:47:02] aethlios : micmix: okcoin index is 50% cny, so shorting there you short the cny btc in china.
[2017-02-14 01:47:31] aethlios : no don't think okcoin.cn with effect ltc long term.
[2017-02-14 01:47:31] kryptopojken : Dynamix: not sure about that
[2017-02-14 01:47:35] kryptopojken : hubi is pumping this
[2017-02-14 01:48:56] arbitrage101 : anyway, without china, i dont think btc price will be this high
[2017-02-14 01:48:58] j8 : micmix: i think the fact that the discount isn't being arbed reflects counterparty risk, moreso than the discount itself
[2017-02-14 01:49:43] arbitrage101 : discount is just what traders' sentiment and opinion
[2017-02-14 01:49:51] l3f : Is Bitmex_Sam here?
[2017-02-14 01:49:54] arbitrage101 : could be right, could be wrong
[2017-02-14 01:50:28] j8 : it hasn't spread to bitmex though, which means people aren't willing to pour funds into okc to arb it
[2017-02-14 01:50:49] arbitrage101 : i place some bets there using 2 times leverage
[2017-02-14 01:51:04] arbitrage101 : should the spread widen, will use higher leverage
[2017-02-14 01:51:29] arbitrage101 : shorting at bitmex should be safer
[2017-02-14 01:51:40] arbitrage101 : if okc go bust, price will go down a lot anyway
[2017-02-14 01:51:49] Dynamix : arbitrage101: short and ho to sleep?
[2017-02-14 01:51:57] aethlios : arbitrage101: better buy weekly and roll over every week, not the quarterly
[2017-02-14 01:52:04] Dynamix : Go bust what u mean ?
[2017-02-14 01:52:26] arbitrage101 : Dynamix: mtgox type bust
[2017-02-14 01:52:34] l3f : arbitrage101: why is that?
[2017-02-14 01:52:44] j8 : arbitrage101: i don't see a 2x long as safe at all over there
[2017-02-14 01:52:59] Dynamix : arbitrage101: lool nahh not gonna happen
[2017-02-14 01:53:07] Dynamix : 500 per btc is gone mate lolol
[2017-02-14 01:53:36] arbitrage101 : j8: i mean if they halt withdraw, my long there will probably be gone, but the price will go down a lot here and on the western exchanges
[2017-02-14 01:54:16] arbitrage101 : hence the risk is not that high if traders can short at safer place
[2017-02-14 01:54:17] Dynamix : j8: 100x short
[2017-02-14 01:55:13] j8 : arbitrage101: yeah maybe, but it's already disconnected from reality, you could have been rekt at 720 the other day and bitmex stayed over 900
[2017-02-14 01:55:35] Dynamix : If bfx drops beliw 995 we going to shiit
[2017-02-14 01:57:05] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/bRRJplQ2/ crazy?
[2017-02-14 01:57:19] Tetsuo : looks good
[2017-02-14 01:58:05] Tetsuo : bit too bullish maybe
[2017-02-14 01:58:31] Dynamix : aethlios: just some lines and squiggly line