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[2017-02-13 09:55:54] l3f : Okc is on 972
[2017-02-13 09:55:57] l3f : bistamp is on 990
[2017-02-13 09:55:58] l3f : wtf
[2017-02-13 09:56:10] Lalaworld : Back up we go
[2017-02-13 09:56:21] rapidtrades : lol @lala
[2017-02-13 09:56:22] l3f : bfx on 993
[2017-02-13 09:56:23] l3f : hmmm
[2017-02-13 09:56:25] jose : agree, never go short on BTC, can make +50% in 1 week
[2017-02-13 09:57:27] guacamole : l3f: yeah i think okc needs to be axed from the index at some point, it follows cny exchanges way too much
[2017-02-13 09:57:33] rullwull : yes, short is pure suicide at the moment, just buy the dips
[2017-02-13 09:57:33] MikeHunt : Nope
[2017-02-13 09:57:37] Dynamix : Goong uppppp
[2017-02-13 09:57:44] l3f : Short at 980
[2017-02-13 09:57:44] MikeHunt : Okc must stay
[2017-02-13 09:57:59] Ahhere : that was a big beartrap if we go up now hold onto butts please
[2017-02-13 09:58:01] MikeHunt : Index must be balanced
[2017-02-13 09:58:05] guacamole : lol
[2017-02-13 09:58:11] rapidtrades : guacamole: and what happens when the ETF gets rejected and west drops below china?
[2017-02-13 09:58:17] rapidtrades : then u'll want them back in
[2017-02-13 09:58:41] guacamole : what does that have to do with it? we want exchanges that represent usd/btc
[2017-02-13 09:58:50] guacamole : on a usd/btc market index
[2017-02-13 09:58:54] rapidtrades : it is btc/usd stupid
[2017-02-13 09:59:12] jung1 : rapidtrades: $500 then
[2017-02-13 09:59:13] guacamole : it follows cny markets more than other usd markets "stupid"
[2017-02-13 09:59:23] guacamole : reading comprehension buddy
[2017-02-13 09:59:33] Dynamix : rapidtrades: it will be approved
[2017-02-13 09:59:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 148 @ 959.97
[2017-02-13 09:59:49] rapidtrades : guacamole: maybe it does, maybe it doesn't its still btcusd
[2017-02-13 10:00:09] rapidtrades : if the winklewii didn't support US prices we would follow china too
[2017-02-13 10:00:38] Dynamix : Stop dumping u cunts
[2017-02-13 10:01:00] guacamole : so is coinbase, bitfinex, etc. - there's no perfect solution when you have weird outliers like BTC-E and scam exchanges like bitfinex, but i still think okc is screwing up the index and funding rates
[2017-02-13 10:01:31] rapidtrades : dude...1 month ago everyone here was following china and sucking its cock
[2017-02-13 10:01:56] rapidtrades : so no they're not gonna remove an exchange based on 1 month data
[2017-02-13 10:01:57] guacamole : usd exchanges were like $100 off, i'm talking about matching the index, not moving the market
[2017-02-13 10:02:07] rullwull : rapidtrades: withdrawals suspension doesnt affect western customers, it pure local problem
[2017-02-13 10:02:08] guacamole : $100 off compared to cny exchange prices
[2017-02-13 10:02:28] rullwull : btc is rising without etf as well
[2017-02-13 10:02:45] Ugly_Old_Goat : Many of the markets did not break at ll. Mexcio barely coughed. Btc-e and Polo hardly broke. Kraken folllowed hafl heartedly. This market is not weak. Just scared longs got sopped out and sillly bears that do not understand btc and why this market will not be going down for quite some time
[2017-02-13 10:03:02] Derreck : and down it goes
[2017-02-13 10:03:07] Dynamix : Fuck man shouldve kept my long entries
[2017-02-13 10:03:13] rapidtrades : oh btce did break my friend, i had my alarms over there
[2017-02-13 10:03:16] Dynamix : 985 977 965 ...
[2017-02-13 10:03:33] rapidtrades : btce dropped $28
[2017-02-13 10:03:35] j8 : there's just not a lot of liquidity on the index exchanges, the swap probably has more
[2017-02-13 10:03:49] guacamole : all i'm talking about is the index matching usd/btc trades, which it isn't doing a good job of - we should probably have about 5 exchanges in the index, and like them or not, the index should probably follow bitfinex for the most part
[2017-02-13 10:03:50] rapidtrades : ofc it was more its 100x
[2017-02-13 10:03:53] Dynamix : We are behind $20 lets get back up
[2017-02-13 10:04:02] rapidtrades : guacamole: f*ck off
[2017-02-13 10:04:18] ayy_lmao : 0.15% in 1 hour lol
[2017-02-13 10:04:19] j8 : it didn't always though.
[2017-02-13 10:04:33] guacamole : rapidtrades: feel like a big man? i'm discussing exchange issues while you're just pissing yourself
[2017-02-13 10:04:40] Lalaworld : Free money here imo. choyna dump is lol
[2017-02-13 10:04:40] guacamole : get that outta here
[2017-02-13 10:05:12] rapidtrades : 1. okc is not going out unless its insolvent 2. bitfinex is not going back in
[2017-02-13 10:05:28] rapidtrades : so this discussion is moot
[2017-02-13 10:06:17] MikeHunt : After etf rejection... https://t3.rbxcdn.com/141fd6d0df7ac3a3ce7ca984e6f98936
[2017-02-13 10:06:27] guacamole : you literally provided 0 reasons, but there's no point arguing with you anyway, i'd rather bring it to people's attention who actually matter
[2017-02-13 10:06:49] Ugly_Old_Goat : I hope you bears were wise enought to cover your shorts, No excuse now to be short this marrket. Again, I covered all shorts and added to longs. I will be bearish only if we break 900 We tried and could not come close.
[2017-02-13 10:06:50] guacamole : bitmex is certainly welcome to make their own decisions and disagree with mine if they like
[2017-02-13 10:07:07] lolka : shift to da moon
[2017-02-13 10:07:09] rapidtrades : im just telling u what bitmex has inferred from their posts here
[2017-02-13 10:08:03] j8 : there's not a lot of options. coinbase is pretty wacky too
[2017-02-13 10:08:22] rapidtrades : when we were going up, ppl wanted to axe bitstamp cos it lagged china
[2017-02-13 10:08:38] guacamole : j8: whacky in which ways? over the market, too volatile/illiquid, or other issues?
[2017-02-13 10:08:46] Ugly_Old_Goat : The index change will not happen untill the June futures comes on board. If Chine starts releasing funds, the will keep it on indiex. If not the must drop
[2017-02-13 10:09:09] Lalaworld : Coinbase doesn't jump around like a retard therefore must be whacky
[2017-02-13 10:09:27] Ugly_Old_Goat : PS. Winkltits etf will not be approved. SEC would be foolish to do ti.
[2017-02-13 10:09:43] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: where will u close ur shorts? 880?
[2017-02-13 10:10:00] rapidtrades : prolly, some of them
[2017-02-13 10:10:01] j8 : guacamole: it's pretty disconnected from other markets in the same was okc usd is. and not a lot of international people can trade there
[2017-02-13 10:10:34] BitMEX_Sam : Hey @j8 thanks for the profile from before; some of the heavier functions I saw in what you sent me have been optimized in this release
[2017-02-13 10:10:40] Ahhere : Ugly_Old_Goat: agreed. The publicity from this and the other ETFs will have a positive influence on awareness of bitcoin
[2017-02-13 10:10:42] rapidtrades : i think no index change should happen until after etf get resolved
[2017-02-13 10:10:44] Ugly_Old_Goat : Coinbase is not a spec exchange. The closed my account and in a bad way. I had to sue and they settled. Not a place to do busines
[2017-02-13 10:10:46] BitMEX_Sam : There is still some work to do but we're making good incremental progress on speeding up component renders
[2017-02-13 10:10:48] guacamole : j8: fair points, but i think if we had 4-5 exchanges in the index at least it might balance out their imperfections a little - they all have flaws of some sort
[2017-02-13 10:11:11] j8 : BitMEX_Sam: it's looking a lot better for sure
[2017-02-13 10:11:18] Tetsuo : i don´t think that both okk and huobi will survive
[2017-02-13 10:11:20] rapidtrades : ppl took positions here based on the index composition...pretty much everyone knew what they were getting into
[2017-02-13 10:11:49] Ugly_Old_Goat : Ahhere: Al publicity is good publicity but an etf will not work in crypto and the SEC should know this
[2017-02-13 10:11:49] Dynamix : Buy the dips
[2017-02-13 10:12:06] Dynamix : Ugly_Old_Goat: shhh btc to 2k
[2017-02-13 10:12:07] guacamole : rapidtrades: that's a perfectly fair point, and they certainly shouldn't implement any change without fair warning - but that doesn't mean it's doing a good job or that improvements shouldn't be considered
[2017-02-13 10:12:17] Ahhere : Ugly_Old_Goat: yep they should have just said no immediately dont know why they dragging it out
[2017-02-13 10:12:59] Ahhere : always a chance of yes after brexit and trump
[2017-02-13 10:13:14] rapidtrades : guacamole: they said they will add an extra exchange at some point
[2017-02-13 10:13:17] guacamole : it does cause you to have longs paying funding with massive future discounts everywhere else, like $80 on okc, which is pretty screwed up - but i agree, it is technically fair - good for shorts though
[2017-02-13 10:13:28] Ugly_Old_Goat : Cause I really don't think they understod btc. If they did their homework and understand it, they can only say no
[2017-02-13 10:14:13] Ugly_Old_Goat : I would be a disaster. Recommend Tone Vay. He has covered why quite well
[2017-02-13 10:14:40] guacamole : Ugly_Old_Goat: what's the gist of the argument?
[2017-02-13 10:14:46] rapidtrades : bifinex can't be added because they created 70mil in token out of thin air and they allow those to be used in margin trading
[2017-02-13 10:14:47] j8 : yeah the swap needs a good index because it can't really trade freely
[2017-02-13 10:15:09] rapidtrades : the amount of actual usd on that exchange is very low
[2017-02-13 10:15:13] Ahhere : Ugly_Old_Goat: thats good it makes them look clueless and makes people ask real question about btc
[2017-02-13 10:15:18] Ugly_Old_Goat : guacamole: Do your own research. There are numerous reasons
[2017-02-13 10:15:50] guacamole : rapidtrades: yeah bitfinex does blow, i'll give you that, like i said all the exchanges have flaws, but bitfinex might be the representative of the usd market (well, has the most volume)
[2017-02-13 10:16:10] rapidtrades : and i told u above why it has the most volume
[2017-02-13 10:16:23] rapidtrades : plus u can't trust their self-reported volumes
[2017-02-13 10:16:32] rapidtrades : we know that they run inhouse bots
[2017-02-13 10:16:47] guacamole : you could be right, wouldn't surprise me - i can understand bfx not being in there but still think in the future we need more in the index
[2017-02-13 10:16:48] Tetsuo : rapidtrades: can u use the tokens to trade BTC/USD?
[2017-02-13 10:17:08] rapidtrades : yes ofc, u can use them as margin
[2017-02-13 10:17:13] Tetsuo : omg lol
[2017-02-13 10:17:15] Ugly_Old_Goat : Who has the private keys? Number one. If btc then why not OneCoin?
[2017-02-13 10:17:22] j8 : flash crash the token and watch the fireworks
[2017-02-13 10:17:32] rapidtrades : yes that's another major risk
[2017-02-13 10:17:34] guacamole : rapidtrades: are they represented in margin trading as being worth $1 or at their current market rate?
[2017-02-13 10:17:44] rapidtrades : current market rate
[2017-02-13 10:17:51] Tetsuo : lol
[2017-02-13 10:17:57] guacamole : well, that's good at least, otherwise it would be even more of a scam
[2017-02-13 10:18:03] Dynamix : Breakoutt
[2017-02-13 10:18:12] guacamole : i really wish bitfinex had tanked when they got hacked
[2017-02-13 10:18:46] guacamole : but whether they faked volumes into success or people were dumb enough to stick around, they're still there
[2017-02-13 10:19:16] rapidtrades : they bragged that 3 out of the top 5 token holders are their executives
[2017-02-13 10:19:30] rapidtrades : meaning they just kept millions on their own exchange
[2017-02-13 10:20:07] guacamole : probably gaming liquidations
[2017-02-13 10:20:26] rapidtrades : they later said there's no problem is employees traded on the exchange although they denided running bots
[2017-02-13 10:20:47] rapidtrades : but why keep millions on there unless ur actively trading
[2017-02-13 10:20:52] xxxxxx : rapidtrades: where did you find this information?
[2017-02-13 10:21:02] rapidtrades : they said it themselves
[2017-02-13 10:21:18] rapidtrades : on reddit by their Representative
[2017-02-13 10:21:25] j8 : phil always said he traded small amounts there and of course would never look at peoples stops
[2017-02-13 10:21:25] BitMEX_Sam : They've admitted to trading on there a few times, heard it on TS
[2017-02-13 10:21:36] xxxxxx : rapidtrades: Can you provie a link?
[2017-02-13 10:21:58] j8 : yes i'm sure there's a recording of that
[2017-02-13 10:22:05] rapidtrades : xxxxxx: https://www.reddit.com/user/zanetackett
[2017-02-13 10:22:17] j8 : oh god, that's gonna be a fun read
[2017-02-13 10:22:37] guacamole : oh yeah, when they had the intern fielding questions on them getting hacked
[2017-02-13 10:22:37] rapidtrades : look at the history , if he hasn't deleted it
[2017-02-13 10:23:09] rapidtrades : or u can try googling and see if u can find the exact posts
[2017-02-13 10:24:13] j8 : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/2t3iz5/bitfinex_cso_phillip_g_potter_admits_to_trading/
[2017-02-13 10:24:45] Ugly_Old_Goat : Do you realize we are only down 14 dollars yet this market is down 40 in perp and 30 in March. We are not going down. Even if spot breaks a bit this market will not follow
[2017-02-13 10:25:02] Ugly_Old_Goat : I advise highly not to sell into this rally
[2017-02-13 10:25:53] Tetsuo : which rally?
[2017-02-13 10:26:13] rapidtrades : idk I asked him that earlier
[2017-02-13 10:26:17] j8 : his screen is upside down
[2017-02-13 10:26:22] j8 : or his head is on backwards
[2017-02-13 10:26:26] Lalaworld : The rally to 10k
[2017-02-13 10:26:35] rapidtrades : lol
[2017-02-13 10:26:41] guacamole : 10,000 cents
[2017-02-13 10:29:00] Ugly_Old_Goat : kraken low was only 883
[2017-02-13 10:29:12] Ugly_Old_Goat : I mean 983
[2017-02-13 10:29:38] Ugly_Old_Goat : This market remains way over sold
[2017-02-13 10:30:38] l3f : Ugly_Old_Goat: The real selling hasn't started yet
[2017-02-13 10:30:48] l3f : Nobody dumps on non-news
[2017-02-13 10:30:49] Ugly_Old_Goat : March should be back over 1000 very soon, less than 24 hours , probably less than 12 hours
[2017-02-13 10:30:53] l3f : unless they want to dump
[2017-02-13 10:31:17] Ugly_Old_Goat : l3f: Dream on. We just had real selling. And I was a real buyer
[2017-02-13 10:31:47] Lalaworld : Seems like a lot of people want a dump... but more want the corn itself
[2017-02-13 10:32:15] l3f : Ugly_Old_Goat: we'll see I guess
[2017-02-13 10:33:27] Ugly_Old_Goat : l3f: Yup,
[2017-02-13 10:34:33] Ugly_Old_Goat : Again I was light reall seller at 1000 and buyer on thiis break. It was all we needed to resume the uptrend.
[2017-02-13 10:35:01] Ahhere : Ugly_Old_Goat: http://imgur.com/a/8aT5p support 970 according to this support line what u think?
[2017-02-13 10:37:57] bg5 : bear flag broke to low side but may still hold, long way until next support https://www.tradingview.com/x/vc8IM19n/
[2017-02-13 10:42:32] abbey : silent. atmosphere excited, scared even, what happens next
[2017-02-13 10:43:04] abbey : trollbox not workin?
[2017-02-13 10:43:17] abbey : ok, i see
[2017-02-13 10:43:34] l3f : bg5: that's the worst bear flag I've seen yet
[2017-02-13 10:43:50] l3f : It looked like the walk the plank pattern to me
[2017-02-13 10:46:07] Ugly_Old_Goat : Ahhere: Yes, Look. I sold out at 1140 on Jan 4. I started buying back a 876 and bot all the way down to 715 with an average of abut 805 . I lightend up at 1090 by selling perp against March. I covered my short perp at 959 started buying more March at 949 all the way down to 905 with an avaerage under 930. I sold this last rally at 1000, covered my shorts at 960 on perp and bot March at 940. Yes, thie market is at the bottom of a long term trend ling. March is at a huge discount. I am very very bullish and will only change my mind if we break under 900 which which case I will liquidate but still iwith a nice profit. I I have never gone short btgicoin. I only vary my long position. I am not looking for any more breaks. We have had 3 big ones and this one was quite minor, but simply stopped out weak hands that bot this rally. This rally can proabley be bot,. I already bot back in over 20 lower
[2017-02-13 10:46:08] l3f : bg5: https://i.imgur.com/BP9wYSA.png
[2017-02-13 10:46:32] Ugly_Old_Goat : I will not sell anything now under we get back over 1000 and then only lightly to take profit
[2017-02-13 10:47:37] ayy_lmao : l3f: lol
[2017-02-13 10:48:01] Dynamix : Ugly_Old_Goat: yuuup
[2017-02-13 10:48:09] guacamole : does someone know why the funding seems to get stuck sometimes - some factor that prevents it from swinging too wildly from one funding period to the next?
[2017-02-13 10:49:01] guacamole : erased the funding longs would pay next time, but has been stuck around -.0092 to -.0094 despite the $5 swap discount for a while
[2017-02-13 10:49:43] bg5 : my first profit take point was hit at 960 was going to wait on a bounce to 985 to reshort that part of my position
[2017-02-13 10:49:58] l3f : bg5: wise move
[2017-02-13 10:50:06] l3f : I was thinking 980 reshort as well
[2017-02-13 10:50:16] bg5 : but it may not come this seems a good spot to short more
[2017-02-13 10:50:25] l3f : bg5: patience
[2017-02-13 10:50:56] guacamole : unless china decides to go for bad news twice in one day
[2017-02-13 10:51:23] Ugly_Old_Goat : Before you fellas short this thing again you need to look at other markets tan the Chineese
[2017-02-13 10:52:44] Ugly_Old_Goat : Again, Mexico barely coughed. We have big problems in Euro,,, Krken barely broke and their the big btc/euro market
[2017-02-13 10:52:47] ayy_lmao : Ugly_Old_Goat: you are rigth
[2017-02-13 10:52:47] ayy_lmao : you can still sell your coins on bitstamp for $993, just saying
[2017-02-13 10:53:03] aethlios : etf rejection and chinese exchanges irrelevance is the bottom, so 750-800 possible. wait decision for etf to go long
[2017-02-13 10:53:14] j8 : guacamole: the predicted funding rate is an average over the 8 hour session, it doesn't change much when there's only 1 hour left
[2017-02-13 10:53:28] l3f : aethlios: I think etf rejection will move it solidly back into 800s buying zone
[2017-02-13 10:53:35] Ugly_Old_Goat : Yup, I am a huge buyer here, Especially the march. It went to a d40 discount in this last paniic
[2017-02-13 10:53:59] l3f : aethlios: unfortunately, I don't know if it will start another bear market
[2017-02-13 10:54:12] Ugly_Old_Goat : It will go to carrying, and it will be at new high ground when it goes there
[2017-02-13 10:54:16] aethlios : l3f: there will be much etf hype until 11 march, so all will try to dump.
[2017-02-13 10:54:16] l3f : Let's hope the ema catches the knife
[2017-02-13 10:54:38] l3f : Weekly chart still has room for a few dumps more
[2017-02-13 10:56:13] aethlios : l3f: https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/JAGD0Dry-BTC-consolidation-before-the-move-to-1-700/ posted that yesterday before the today's dump.
[2017-02-13 10:56:45] l3f : aethlios: well I shorted at 1k according to my own analysis
[2017-02-13 10:57:04] guacamole : j8: unless my perception is very far off though, it's more than that, it moves until it hits +/- .00xx, then sticks sometimes
[2017-02-13 10:57:05] l3f : But the cycle looks good
[2017-02-13 10:57:23] l3f : aethlios: look at the massive shorts opened on bfx
[2017-02-13 11:00:05] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/UDTvMNZW/ last 2 scycles were 2000% from bottom, so 2,700 is a target top
[2017-02-13 11:00:07] l3f : http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/_qil1czJ5Wb3rTivJ43D1A
[2017-02-13 11:00:15] l3f : Okcoin analysis team
[2017-02-13 11:00:16] l3f : lol
[2017-02-13 11:01:23] j8 : guacamole: there is a +/- 0.05% "dampener" around the interest rate, although it doesn't really make much difference. see https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#Final-Funding-Rate-Calculation
[2017-02-13 11:02:34] j8 : the difference in interest rates from bitfinex is around -0.05 now. so when the premium index is between -0.1 and 0, it will count as -0.05
[2017-02-13 11:03:07] aethlios : l3f: finex super bear, rates to borrow btc are 3 times more than usd, bearish everywhere. now to hedge btc you pay 1.5% per month.
[2017-02-13 11:03:20] indelibleTrade : hi can mitMex staff point towards more information about mark price and how live positions are affected by it... like does liquidation happen at liquid price < mark price or liquid < bitmex price
[2017-02-13 11:03:38] indelibleTrade : *bitMex
[2017-02-13 11:04:35] j8 : mark price is used for liquidations
[2017-02-13 11:04:49] ayy_lmao : https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradingOverview
[2017-02-13 11:04:54] ayy_lmao : everything you need to know is in there
[2017-02-13 11:04:56] l3f : 64% of okc gamblers think down tomorrow
[2017-02-13 11:05:22] l3f : That's all the proprietary info I have now
[2017-02-13 11:05:22] hobolowbo : so are we thinking a retrace to 1K or going down?
[2017-02-13 11:05:49] l3f : aethlios: well btc looks like it's about to shit the bed
[2017-02-13 11:07:06] aethlios : l3f: yes doesn't look good, market divided to spot super bullish and futures bearish, futures bearish after 300 usd up trend.
[2017-02-13 11:07:36] l3f : aethlios: I just want to know what in the every loving fuck is stamp doing
[2017-02-13 11:11:56] l3f : bg5: 980's here
[2017-02-13 11:14:06] Ugly_Old_Goat : After this payday shorts will pay longs. Look for market to continue up up up
[2017-02-13 11:14:34] Ugly_Old_Goat : There is your 980 if you want it . I don't
[2017-02-13 11:15:19] Ahhere : whewww
[2017-02-13 11:15:30] Ahhere : okcoin bullish?
[2017-02-13 11:15:55] Ugly_Old_Goat : I am going to bed and expect market to be wel ovder 1000 when I wake up
[2017-02-13 11:16:14] Ahhere : Ugly_Old_Goat: if it dips ill market buy a few kilocoins for you
[2017-02-13 11:16:25] Ahhere : <3
[2017-02-13 11:16:58] Ugly_Old_Goat : Good luck, we already dipped
[2017-02-13 11:17:13] Ahhere : ready for all eventualities
[2017-02-13 11:18:22] Ugly_Old_Goat : If you did not buy the dip your are now stuck chasing the market and buying the rally. I think its good but, I don' trade that way. My boat is loaded and looking to give some back higher, much higher
[2017-02-13 11:18:54] Ahhere : Ugly_Old_Goat: lowered my entry by 15$
[2017-02-13 11:19:42] Ugly_Old_Goat : Ahhere: Yup, You must trade with deep pockets. I noticed they cliipped everyone again in china on the quaterly
[2017-02-13 11:19:50] JT : can't believe this thing went to 950 while i was sleeping
[2017-02-13 11:20:07] JT : oh wait, it's bitcoin
[2017-02-13 11:20:09] Ahhere : ok retraced
[2017-02-13 11:20:32] Ugly_Old_Goat : Ahhere: Doubt you will get it. This market does not look like it will break much more than a cunt hair
[2017-02-13 11:20:53] Ahhere : Ugly_Old_Goat: get what?
[2017-02-13 11:21:28] Ugly_Old_Goat : Thought you wanted to buy a 15 break
[2017-02-13 11:21:45] Ahhere : no i already lowered my long's entry by 15$
[2017-02-13 11:21:52] Ahhere : in the dip
[2017-02-13 11:24:16] Derreck : moon!
[2017-02-13 11:25:35] Ugly_Old_Goat : Ahhere: Ok, II think I see what you mean. I actually am my entry and my average was 805, and will all my buying and selling it is now 911. When I bot this dip it actaully raaisedd my average
[2017-02-13 11:25:57] Ugly_Old_Goat : But the n also makde a nice profit on my short
[2017-02-13 11:26:02] arbitrage101 : reversal was quick
[2017-02-13 11:26:12] arbitrage101 : took a dump and price went up 20 dollars
[2017-02-13 11:26:15] Ugly_Old_Goat : arbitrage101: yiup
[2017-02-13 11:26:29] micmix : arbitrage101: west is getting disconnected from the east
[2017-02-13 11:26:31] Ahhere : china getting less scary by the dump
[2017-02-13 11:26:37] Ugly_Old_Goat : Next one will be a flash
[2017-02-13 11:27:21] arbitrage101 : think there are way too much money in the system now to allow low price
[2017-02-13 11:27:28] rullwull : micmix: because west havent been affected by chinese problems
[2017-02-13 11:27:40] Ugly_Old_Goat : You need to have your orders in next time cause will will list like 30 minutes, The market is fundamentally chaniging
[2017-02-13 11:28:03] Ugly_Old_Goat : Too many use scenarios on the horizone
[2017-02-13 11:28:15] Ugly_Old_Goat : Working on some mysellf
[2017-02-13 11:29:06] Ugly_Old_Goat : This year could be a very happy surprise for bitcoiners
[2017-02-13 11:29:14] Ahhere : happy ending?
[2017-02-13 11:29:49] mahouni : haha
[2017-02-13 11:30:00] mahouni : bliss
[2017-02-13 11:30:05] Ugly_Old_Goat : Never go naked short this thing, simply sell for profitt, and hedging but keep your core
[2017-02-13 11:30:40] mahouni : lol naked short is best short. Never go leveraged long
[2017-02-13 11:31:13] Ahhere : mahouni: to be fair naked anything sounds better. naked coffee naked tennis naked short naked sky news
[2017-02-13 11:31:35] Ahhere : leveraged coffee just sounds gross
[2017-02-13 11:31:35] mahouni : Ahhere: Yes, im a simple man
[2017-02-13 11:33:01] Ugly_Old_Goat : That was the dip, Did you catch it?
[2017-02-13 11:33:10] l3f : Ugly_Old_Goat: Lol real dip coming
[2017-02-13 11:33:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 48000 @ 6585.7
[2017-02-13 11:33:24] Ugly_Old_Goat : Don't think so
[2017-02-13 11:33:36] Ugly_Old_Goat : You are looking at it
[2017-02-13 11:33:54] l3f : Ugly_Old_Goat: adding to short, sorry
[2017-02-13 11:34:06] mahouni : That was bitstamp dumping some
[2017-02-13 11:34:23] mahouni : not the real dump. Here it just reflexes the upcoming funding
[2017-02-13 11:36:02] Ugly_Old_Goat : mahouni: Agreed but that was the dip, If you sell into this you are stepping in deep dodo
[2017-02-13 11:37:11] i3 : it will pump hard now
[2017-02-13 11:37:13] bingbongfly : Ugly_Old_Goat: I just sold into this, whatcu gonna do bout it
[2017-02-13 11:37:16] mahouni : You need to go through dodo to get the golden nuggets u know
[2017-02-13 11:37:23] bingbongfly : i3: typical my luck x)
[2017-02-13 11:37:39] bingbongfly : feels good to take profit and not be in a position however, ah man so relaxing
[2017-02-13 11:38:16] bingbongfly : I had a short from 990, set buys at 960 for close + 50% long. Wake up to this
[2017-02-13 11:38:21] bingbongfly : Amazing <3
[2017-02-13 11:38:51] mahouni : My buys are at 880 aint fuckin moving
[2017-02-13 11:38:55] Ugly_Old_Goat : bingbongfly: That is what makes a market. Hope it works for you. I am a buyer again if we make new lows
[2017-02-13 11:38:56] bingbongfly : I'm gonna buy myself something nice, good luck today traders
[2017-02-13 11:39:12] bingbongfly : Ugly_Old_Goat: yea, I'm gonna step away for a while, I'll be back. :) Good luck
[2017-02-13 11:40:25] Ahhere : bingbongfly: well done enjoy
[2017-02-13 11:42:41] Ugly_Old_Goat : You need to look at Kraken. It should take out 947 and rip. NHi2Yay57486gkd/ItQmHk8ueBeL9d8YNA1mUQQmxwc=
[2017-02-13 11:44:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECH17`: sell 80 @ 0.028900
[2017-02-13 11:46:21] j8 : only 30 bucks for a ZEC? cool
[2017-02-13 11:47:00] mahouni : I feel bad for ZEC bagholders
[2017-02-13 11:47:09] Dynamix : Fuck should've kept my limits for btc ;|
[2017-02-13 11:47:17] j8 : i don't
[2017-02-13 11:47:25] mahouni : me neither hehe
[2017-02-13 11:47:40] j8 : :)
[2017-02-13 11:48:49] micmix : I'm going to buy me some ZEC. I think the pump is coming when they announce integration with ETH
[2017-02-13 11:49:07] j8 : is that a thing?
[2017-02-13 11:49:17] Diplomata : guys..we can change the leverage after long or short?
[2017-02-13 11:50:04] mahouni : Any other ideas for signals for a pump scenario on Zec? Might be interested in gambling
[2017-02-13 11:51:08] micmix : yeah, I saw it mentioned couple of times by devs: https://blog.ethereum.org/2017/01/19/update-integrating-zcash-ethereum/
[2017-02-13 11:51:35] mahouni : seems like nonsense
[2017-02-13 11:53:51] j8 : interesting
[2017-02-13 11:54:07] j8 : even if it is nonsense
[2017-02-13 11:55:36] l3f : mahouni: wait for 0200
[2017-02-13 11:56:06] mahouni : l3f: yea seems like good idea
[2017-02-13 11:56:09] Dynamix : Price gonna go up to 1k again , maybe break it
[2017-02-13 11:56:13] rullwull : zec classic?)))
[2017-02-13 11:56:19] i3 : Dynamix: today u think ?
[2017-02-13 11:56:34] Dynamix : i3: Why not ? Lol, its already more than 50% up of todays dump :P
[2017-02-13 11:56:46] Dynamix : Should've kept my limits until 960 :@
[2017-02-13 11:56:49] i3 : i agree with you but i think we won't pass 1k today
[2017-02-13 11:57:02] i3 : around 990/995 like previous weekend
[2017-02-13 11:59:06] Dynamix : i3: Nah... We will cny will pump like shit ,
[2017-02-13 11:59:18] Dynamix : my entry price is 993 ffs ;| better get back up there lol
[2017-02-13 11:59:21] rapidtrades : PAYDAY
[2017-02-13 11:59:30] rapidtrades : PAYDAY IMMINENT
[2017-02-13 11:59:35] loomdart : rapid trades
[2017-02-13 11:59:35] loomdart : wtf
[2017-02-13 11:59:37] Dynamix : rapidtrades: Myh.. where payday ?
[2017-02-13 11:59:40] loomdart : why aren't we at 800 yet
[2017-02-13 11:59:43] loomdart : scammer
[2017-02-13 11:59:50] loomdart : I want a refund
[2017-02-13 11:59:50] i3 : Dynamix: entry long 993 ? how did u ?
[2017-02-13 11:59:53] Dynamix : 5 min cloud on bfx gone
[2017-02-13 12:00:01] loomdart : 5 min cloud lmao
[2017-02-13 12:00:05] rapidtrades : SWEEEET
[2017-02-13 12:00:08] loomdart : 1 min rsi indicating ultimate downmove!!!!
[2017-02-13 12:00:11] Dynamix : i3: From last night man .... I used the Close position and it closed all my limit orders
[2017-02-13 12:00:19] Dynamix : down till 960 :@
[2017-02-13 12:00:22] i3 : T.T
[2017-02-13 12:00:24] Dynamix : Fucking bitmex
[2017-02-13 12:00:35] jphamer1 : what the hell i was charged for my long?
[2017-02-13 12:00:46] ayy_lmao : of course
[2017-02-13 12:00:50] Dynamix : jphamer1: Yup, you get charged a fee lol
[2017-02-13 12:00:52] chromaticcr1 : lol
[2017-02-13 12:00:58] ayy_lmao : nobody reads the documentation here
[2017-02-13 12:01:16] jphamer1 : yesterday i made money on my long I'm sure
[2017-02-13 12:01:18] chromaticcr1 : that is a funding rate
[2017-02-13 12:01:29] ayy_lmao : funding rate changes
[2017-02-13 12:01:35] ayy_lmao : from positive to negative
[2017-02-13 12:02:07] Dynamix : wtf so many fees on this shit haha
[2017-02-13 12:02:08] Dynamix : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2017-02-13 12:02:09] chromaticcr1 : negative, short pays long positive, long pays short. Bitmex doesnt take a cut
[2017-02-13 12:02:10] Dynamix : :|
[2017-02-13 12:02:22] Dynamix : Gonna have to reffer myself fk it lol
[2017-02-13 12:02:29] ayy_lmao : you can always trade quarter contract
[2017-02-13 12:02:32] ayy_lmao : no funding there
[2017-02-13 12:02:46] Dynamix : ayy_lmao: Yh I did but still... Closed that too early too
[2017-02-13 12:02:56] chromaticcr1 : but the premium is... volatile
[2017-02-13 12:03:12] ayy_lmao : you don't like volatility?
[2017-02-13 12:03:13] Dynamix : atleast I did some hedging
[2017-02-13 12:03:17] Dynamix : with this shit
[2017-02-13 12:03:22] Dynamix : Volatility is bae man <3
[2017-02-13 12:04:45] Dynamix : Going upp on monday <3
[2017-02-13 12:04:50] ayy_lmao : man cryptowatch is so slow
[2017-02-13 12:04:52] Dynamix : This week will be longing time
[2017-02-13 12:06:01] i3 : for sure
[2017-02-13 12:12:48] jonny : now, to break confidence, which of the biggest 10 bitcoin exchanges will be hacked ?
[2017-02-13 12:13:55] arbitrage101 : okc and bfx
[2017-02-13 12:13:56] j8 : gemini.. well maybe it's not in the top 10 but it would be hilarious
[2017-02-13 12:16:35] Dynamix : jonny: Bitmex heheh
[2017-02-13 12:18:25] jonny : Dynamix: dont the gamblers need to be nurtured some longer?
[2017-02-13 12:18:51] Dynamix : jonny: Maybe ;)
[2017-02-13 12:19:45] Tetsuo : jonny: i would bet on okcoin and huobi
[2017-02-13 12:20:11] Tetsuo : not hacked but acually running fractional reserve and getting shutdown by the PBOC
[2017-02-13 12:26:34] micmix : j8: hope not gemini, I'm a big fan of their auctions
[2017-02-13 12:29:16] j8 : oh yeah i like the idea too, are you a regular participant?
[2017-02-13 12:31:21] micmix : yeah, I convert coins to USD that way if I need to convert 10 or more
[2017-02-13 12:41:29] rapidtrades : WHY?
[2017-02-13 12:43:15] i3 : still 22 spread on swap & future Mkt price
[2017-02-13 12:57:50] Ahhere : stamp 997
[2017-02-13 12:59:32] MikeHunt : Stamp rly luvs 1k
[2017-02-13 13:00:19] Ahhere : i no rite?
[2017-02-13 13:00:32] Dynamix : we will get to 1k real soon heh
[2017-02-13 13:00:37] MikeHunt : Its like the family pet that catches rabies, u love it but u know u gotta take it out bk and 12 gauge it
[2017-02-13 13:04:55] loomdart : lol
[2017-02-13 13:05:00] i3 : Monday pumping ~
[2017-02-13 13:05:00] loomdart : bitstamp is a bitcoin exchange
[2017-02-13 13:05:06] loomdart : if people want to buy bitcoin they buy bitcoin
[2017-02-13 13:05:07] loomdart : that raises the price
[2017-02-13 13:05:09] loomdart : it's pretty simple
[2017-02-13 13:05:15] loomdart : bitstamp is just a medium of exchange
[2017-02-13 13:05:18] loomdart : nothing else
[2017-02-13 13:07:06] maurris : BITMEX symbols don't work anymore on TradingView?
[2017-02-13 13:10:42] BitMEX_Wally : maurris: Looks like they have dropped us. Do you have any way of contacting them?
[2017-02-13 13:13:01] ayy_lmao : can you even short on bitstamp
[2017-02-13 13:13:46] ayy_lmao : magnr i guess
[2017-02-13 13:13:50] ayy_lmao : used to be btc.sx
[2017-02-13 13:15:16] maurris : BitMEX_Wally: I just contacted them with their online form about that issue. By the way, do you know if it's possible to chart .XBT Index on TradingView? Only manage to get BITMEX:XBTUSD working
[2017-02-13 13:17:36] BitMEX_Wally : maurris: We implemented UDF API support for TradingView, which has all instruments. Not sure if they are using it: https://www.bitmex.com/app/apiOverview#UDF-API
[2017-02-13 13:31:44] -_- : 20,583 BTC short on Bitfinex
[2017-02-13 13:35:05] i3 : bitstamp 998
[2017-02-13 13:35:13] ross : -_-: 15mins ago and we still climbing
[2017-02-13 13:36:18] -_- : glad to see more performance improvements. hopefully that eliminates all lag. next time we get massive amount of margin calls and large movements i'll see how this site holds up
[2017-02-13 13:36:34] jung1 : short time?
[2017-02-13 13:37:00] i3 : fake
[2017-02-13 13:38:49] jung1 : finex seems bullish
[2017-02-13 13:38:57] -_- : 1000 stamp
[2017-02-13 13:39:09] Ahhere : jung1: hell okcoin is bullish
[2017-02-13 13:39:34] Ahhere : maybe the market is immunised against pboc scares now?
[2017-02-13 13:40:06] jung1 : hmm
[2017-02-13 13:44:36] jung1 : shorts on finex climbed by 1% in 5min
[2017-02-13 13:45:35] jung1 : 1,5%
[2017-02-13 13:46:04] jung1 : 2,1%
[2017-02-13 13:49:29] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Wally: is there a way to slow down updates to reduce lag
[2017-02-13 13:49:43] MikeHunt : ?
[2017-02-13 13:50:41] thomaskikansha : 20.5K shorts on btc
[2017-02-13 13:51:03] herpinator : liking new updates great job as usual
[2017-02-13 13:54:25] MikeHunt : herpinator: its run by bankers not hermit craps like finex
[2017-02-13 13:55:02] herpinator : MikeHunt: hahaha
[2017-02-13 13:57:30] bigpapa : what are people attributing the bearish activity for?
[2017-02-13 13:57:32] bigpapa : China?
[2017-02-13 14:00:23] -_- : yeah
[2017-02-13 14:00:35] bigpapa : fuckers
[2017-02-13 14:00:38] -_- : not a lot of details being released from the market leaders
[2017-02-13 14:00:52] bigpapa : f*uckers
[2017-02-13 14:01:01] -_- : are things worse than they appear. when withdraws are enabled will the requirements be batshit crazy
[2017-02-13 14:01:39] -_- : will china whales market sell on every exchange because they know the price wont stay up once ETF is denied
[2017-02-13 14:01:53] MikeHunt : we dont know what the AML/KYC in china will be like yet
[2017-02-13 14:01:57] MikeHunt : rumour is withdrawal limits
[2017-02-13 14:02:04] MikeHunt : (capital controls)
[2017-02-13 14:02:09] bigpapa : no surprise
[2017-02-13 14:02:25] -_- : bitfinex had 20,000 BTC in longs close and then a bunch of shorts open
[2017-02-13 14:02:34] -_- : okco1n quarterly down and staying down like never before seen
[2017-02-13 14:02:35] bigpapa : really?
[2017-02-13 14:02:41] MikeHunt : so assuming capital controls, another dump
[2017-02-13 14:02:48] MikeHunt : puts us near 700-800 support
[2017-02-13 14:02:52] MikeHunt : then etf failure...
[2017-02-13 14:02:55] MikeHunt : lol
[2017-02-13 14:03:10] -_- : then coinbase / IRS announce plans to audit every single customer
[2017-02-13 14:03:13] MikeHunt : yup
[2017-02-13 14:03:19] -_- : circle too
[2017-02-13 14:03:26] MikeHunt : 2014 all over again
[2017-02-13 14:03:38] -_- : then regulators finally get around to looking into what Bitfinex did
[2017-02-13 14:03:44] rapidtrades : I have suspicion that we're not getting the whole story here
[2017-02-13 14:03:59] rapidtrades : stopping withdrawals completely for AML makes no sence whatsoever
[2017-02-13 14:04:03] -_- : and Bitfinex gets a huge fine and some other shit
[2017-02-13 14:04:04] bigpapa : irs don't have the resources to audit everyone
[2017-02-13 14:04:07] rapidtrades : for 1 f*Cking month
[2017-02-13 14:04:47] MikeHunt : bigpapa: well they can make em come to them
[2017-02-13 14:05:00] MikeHunt : give bitcoiners an ultimatum then begin long slow process of fuckery
[2017-02-13 14:05:09] rapidtrades : if bitfinex gets finex, tokens crash, bitcoin crashes with it
[2017-02-13 14:05:17] rapidtrades : fined*
[2017-02-13 14:05:29] MikeHunt : loads of money 4 me if that happens
[2017-02-13 14:05:40] MikeHunt : we got to 400 and i can annoy sledger for enternity
[2017-02-13 14:05:53] bigpapa : i am not too worried about the IRS
[2017-02-13 14:06:31] bigpapa : it's all smoke & mirrors
[2017-02-13 14:07:02] MikeHunt : anyone that traded 4 profit on coinbase and didnt file
[2017-02-13 14:07:06] rapidtrades : MikeHunt: yeah im a bit surprised that sleger is so bullish
[2017-02-13 14:07:18] rapidtrades : but then again the man was bullish on ETH too
[2017-02-13 14:07:29] rapidtrades : so he's not infallible :)
[2017-02-13 14:08:15] MikeHunt : sledger makes his money by reacting quickly iirc
[2017-02-13 14:08:24] MikeHunt : he does HFT afterall
[2017-02-13 14:08:35] rapidtrades : makes sense
[2017-02-13 14:08:57] rapidtrades : etf should be easy money, whatever the decision
[2017-02-13 14:09:12] bigpapa : ETF will be a fun trading day
[2017-02-13 14:09:13] rapidtrades : cos markets are slow to react here
[2017-02-13 14:09:39] rapidtrades : so if we sleep in this chat 24/7 we should make some easy $$$
[2017-02-13 14:09:48] rapidtrades : some day between now and mar 10
[2017-02-13 14:11:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 1200 @ 966.52
[2017-02-13 14:11:26] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: i think only way it will pass is if trumps team has an input
[2017-02-13 14:12:46] rapidtrades : i don't think Trumps team is particularly bitcoin friendly, altho some ppl in his administration are
[2017-02-13 14:12:54] rapidtrades : Trum.p
[2017-02-13 14:12:59] rapidtrades : FREE TRUM.P
[2017-02-13 14:13:11] -_- : trump has rich buddies who wouldnt be happy if bitcoin etf approval makes them poorer
[2017-02-13 14:13:27] -_- : i'm sure trump wont be happy either unless he is already in
[2017-02-13 14:13:38] -_- : that's all trump has to do. get him and his buddies some BTC
[2017-02-13 14:14:28] jung1 : finex go down
[2017-02-13 14:14:34] MikeHunt : for willy twins the etf is a no loss really
[2017-02-13 14:14:47] rapidtrades : march back at depression levels
[2017-02-13 14:14:56] ThruTheFloor : I dont think Trump has ever even heard of bitcoin. Mulvaney otoh...
[2017-02-13 14:14:57] jung1 : hope so!
[2017-02-13 14:15:30] MikeHunt : trump is more concerned about the softness of towels on airforce 1
[2017-02-13 14:15:31] rapidtrades : march gives 16% annualized to longers
[2017-02-13 14:15:34] rapidtrades : crazy
[2017-02-13 14:15:57] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: y
[2017-02-13 14:16:01] arbitrage101 : yes
[2017-02-13 14:16:06] arbitrage101 : and i am shorting more
[2017-02-13 14:16:17] jung1 : from now?
[2017-02-13 14:16:19] arbitrage101 : which make me an idiot, right?
[2017-02-13 14:16:34] rullwull : Buy march
[2017-02-13 14:16:51] rullwull : Good discount
[2017-02-13 14:17:09] arbitrage101 : all pricing is relative
[2017-02-13 14:17:16] laisee : sell perp, buy mar ... free moolah
[2017-02-13 14:17:18] arbitrage101 : discount to where?
[2017-02-13 14:17:33] rapidtrades : to index brah
[2017-02-13 14:17:44] rullwull : To spot
[2017-02-13 14:17:54] arbitrage101 : which spot?
[2017-02-13 14:17:59] arbitrage101 : there are so many spots
[2017-02-13 14:18:01] rapidtrades : ur mum's spot
[2017-02-13 14:18:05] rapidtrades : what about thm apples
[2017-02-13 14:18:06] arbitrage101 : left, right ,middle
[2017-02-13 14:18:06] MikeHunt : usually i'd wait for h17 to come up a bit
[2017-02-13 14:18:13] rapidtrades : don't be a smartass arb101
[2017-02-13 14:18:28] arbitrage101 : sorry
[2017-02-13 14:18:28] rullwull : but march sell spot, esp OKc march
[2017-02-13 14:18:28] MikeHunt : arbitrage101: he means swap
[2017-02-13 14:18:49] jung1 : stamp 92
[2017-02-13 14:18:56] rullwull : I mean real spot bfx or stamp
[2017-02-13 14:18:57] rapidtrades : u can buy okc march but ur taking on counter-party risk
[2017-02-13 14:19:15] MikeHunt : wouldnt touch china personally
[2017-02-13 14:19:17] rapidtrades : keep in mind funds will be locked until friday
[2017-02-13 14:19:25] arbitrage101 : when potential profit is a lot higher than counter party risk
[2017-02-13 14:19:30] arbitrage101 : then it is worth taking
[2017-02-13 14:19:43] rapidtrades : im not sure if the risk of okc insolvency is <9%
[2017-02-13 14:19:54] arbitrage101 : then you should take same position
[2017-02-13 14:20:08] arbitrage101 : opps, read it wrong
[2017-02-13 14:20:14] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: they have an official counter? lol
[2017-02-13 14:20:30] rapidtrades : it just trades shady as f*ck
[2017-02-13 14:20:41] arbitrage101 : take reverse position then
[2017-02-13 14:20:52] rapidtrades : i kinda am by being short here
[2017-02-13 14:21:09] rapidtrades : we're 50% okc
[2017-02-13 14:21:42] arbitrage101 : shorting swap here is really bad idea
[2017-02-13 14:22:15] MikeHunt : arbitrage101: can be good sometimes