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[2017-02-12 18:48:48] Sultan Pepper : in a Cheap-ass car to boot
[2017-02-12 18:49:12] Ahhere : wow sounds awesome fiat have made some smashing abarth or whatever their fancy range is called
[2017-02-12 18:50:02] Ahhere : right gotta run
[2017-02-12 18:50:07] Sultan Pepper : Yeah those are pretty nasty
[2017-02-12 18:50:15] Sultan Pepper : later!
[2017-02-12 18:52:31] Sultan Pepper : So how about this sideway?
[2017-02-12 18:52:45] Sultan Pepper : almost looking rectangular on the 15
[2017-02-12 18:53:44] Sultan Pepper : Bbands gettin' springy on the 1h
[2017-02-12 18:57:45] Sinterklaas : Sultan Pepper: you at Milan area?
[2017-02-12 18:57:57] Sultan Pepper : I was, yeah
[2017-02-12 18:58:31] Sultan Pepper : i drove from lago d'orta to cinque terre
[2017-02-12 18:59:07] Sinterklaas : ah nice!, Italy is one of the best countrys for holiday
[2017-02-12 18:59:25] Sultan Pepper : Yeah it is
[2017-02-12 19:01:07] Sultan Pepper : i saw a classical concert on an island in the middle of a giant lake in a church during a thunderstorm
[2017-02-12 19:01:20] Sultan Pepper : visceral, to say the least
[2017-02-12 19:02:41] Cromage : are you italian? xD
[2017-02-12 19:02:52] Sultan Pepper : I wish
[2017-02-12 19:03:22] Sultan Pepper : I'm just a guy that spends most of his money on traveling
[2017-02-12 19:03:28] Cromage : where are you from?
[2017-02-12 19:03:36] Cromage : I live near Milano
[2017-02-12 19:04:15] Sultan Pepper : i'd rather not say where I live now, but I was born in the states
[2017-02-12 19:05:42] Sultan Pepper : Cromage: Milano's nice. My wife and I are talking of moving to Treviso
[2017-02-12 19:06:06] Sultan Pepper : Omegna is my favorite though
[2017-02-12 19:06:17] Cromage : Milano is the best city in Italy for shopping
[2017-02-12 19:07:03] Cromage : and ofc the most international italian city
[2017-02-12 19:07:32] Sultan Pepper : Yeah, the water was a bit dissapointing though. Ever been to Omegna? The canals are fresh out of the mountains and crystal clear
[2017-02-12 19:07:53] Cromage : I don't know Omegna, sorry!
[2017-02-12 19:08:04] Cromage : now I search it on gmaps
[2017-02-12 19:08:44] Cromage : it's on the top of Lake d'Orta
[2017-02-12 19:08:52] Sultan Pepper : Take a day trip if you can. Go when it's hot because the lake is like ice year-round
[2017-02-12 19:09:01] Sultan Pepper : yep
[2017-02-12 19:10:01] Cromage : go to Venice if you want to see canals xD
[2017-02-12 19:10:07] Sultan Pepper : You can almost see the bottom of that lake in the daylight
[2017-02-12 19:10:24] Sultan Pepper : Blegh, Venice is G-Ross
[2017-02-12 19:10:48] Sultan Pepper : So many better places
[2017-02-12 19:11:09] Cromage : i think you like nature
[2017-02-12 19:11:10] Cromage : so ok
[2017-02-12 19:11:24] Sultan Pepper : Haha yeah, I'm a fan
[2017-02-12 19:11:29] Sinterklaas : I love Roma
[2017-02-12 19:11:38] Sinterklaas : been there 15x at least
[2017-02-12 19:11:50] Sultan Pepper : Never been, actually
[2017-02-12 19:11:54] Sinterklaas : only 3 hour flight from Amsterdam
[2017-02-12 19:14:12] Sultan Pepper : Hamburg is one of my favorite cities
[2017-02-12 19:15:10] Sultan Pepper : Die Schanze ❤️
[2017-02-12 19:15:54] Sultan Pepper : Got picked in Die Rota Flora
[2017-02-12 19:16:49] Sultan Pepper : And went to a rave in a cement bunker with metre-thick walls
[2017-02-12 19:16:59] Sinterklaas : that good!!
[2017-02-12 19:17:08] Sinterklaas : i love the german raves
[2017-02-12 19:17:26] Sinterklaas : together with Molly offcourse
[2017-02-12 19:17:56] Sultan Pepper : Ridiculously fun. Fog so thick you can't see and it's the bass that makes you not be able to breathe
[2017-02-12 19:18:44] Sultan Pepper : Suicide-proof bathrooms
[2017-02-12 19:32:55] y1uy : looks like we aint dropping yet after all
[2017-02-12 19:33:22] Sinterklaas : y1uy: ahahahah
[2017-02-12 19:33:24] y1uy : if we drop below 990 longs will have a hard time
[2017-02-12 19:34:00] Ahhere : y1uy: sideways is the new bullish
[2017-02-12 19:34:39] BTCDJS : Bulls give up. Just sell so we can all catch the price at 880 and go up to 1400 from there
[2017-02-12 19:35:07] Sinterklaas : Coval
[2017-02-12 19:35:31] y1uy : we have major resistance at 990-995 so if we cant break that we goin only up
[2017-02-12 19:36:28] Ahhere : ^gets it
[2017-02-12 19:36:47] Sinterklaas : Ahhere: who?
[2017-02-12 19:36:59] Ahhere : y1uy:
[2017-02-12 19:38:33] MikeHunt : http://i.imgur.com/ki4iPm9.png
[2017-02-12 19:38:35] MikeHunt : ?
[2017-02-12 19:39:04] Sultan Pepper : MikeHunt: lol
[2017-02-12 19:39:16] Sultan Pepper : that's me drowning^
[2017-02-12 19:40:11] MikeHunt : Sultan Pepper: u long?
[2017-02-12 19:40:43] BTCDJS : I'm long and short so doesn't matter to me. But this is boring. At least give yourself a chance to buy lower
[2017-02-12 19:41:35] tintin : hi
[2017-02-12 19:41:49] BTCDJS : Hi
[2017-02-12 19:41:53] Sinterklaas : tintin: hi
[2017-02-12 19:42:04] Ahhere : tintin: hej
[2017-02-12 19:43:46] y1uy : god damn it
[2017-02-12 19:43:49] y1uy : bitcoin y u so boring
[2017-02-12 19:44:03] y1uy : its like watching paint dry
[2017-02-12 19:44:23] MadDog : Right, I haven't even got rekt yet
[2017-02-12 19:44:36] MikeHunt : stamp trying to cling on to 1k
[2017-02-12 19:45:39] y1uy : MadDog: are u long nog?
[2017-02-12 19:45:46] Papou : you know it stalling at this level further reinforces we will go up
[2017-02-12 19:45:56] MadDog : 12 contracts, just practicing right now
[2017-02-12 19:46:03] MadDog : waiting for an opportunity
[2017-02-12 19:46:18] Papou : this is the opportunity, below 1k...
[2017-02-12 19:46:31] y1uy : MadDog: good bro, gotta perfect your game first
[2017-02-12 19:46:34] Papou : ur trying to catch a high levelrage perfect swing....
[2017-02-12 19:46:54] MadDog : yes
[2017-02-12 19:47:02] Papou : i can guarantee you if you buy bitcoin at 1k and hold it you will make more money overall than trying to catch every little swing
[2017-02-12 19:47:16] y1uy : true
[2017-02-12 19:47:16] MikeHunt : 1k seems rather polarizing
[2017-02-12 19:47:22] MadDog : Well we were just at 750 so I don't feel safe buying 1k
[2017-02-12 19:47:33] Papou : for a few seconds?
[2017-02-12 19:47:48] y1uy : pboc fud did not break up the bull trend
[2017-02-12 19:47:53] MadDog : I just gotta wait until a sure thing.. and this surely isn't sure
[2017-02-12 19:47:54] y1uy : so 1k is not so polarizing ;)
[2017-02-12 19:48:08] Papou : that should scare ppl
[2017-02-12 19:48:19] MikeHunt : y1uy: it seems to have split the community into perma bulls/bears atm
[2017-02-12 19:48:20] Papou : especially the bitstamp madness the other day, some serious people wanted to get an early position
[2017-02-12 19:48:38] MikeHunt : Papou: its ETF mania imo
[2017-02-12 19:48:46] Papou : no mike its called a deflationary asset
[2017-02-12 19:49:11] y1uy : MikeHunt: yerah, and its kinda stupid to think bitcoin will dump to 760-800.. i mean whats the reasoning behind that? no signs of bulltrend ending
[2017-02-12 19:49:12] Papou : that grows more difficult each day for the miners as well as less and less produced as well as more and more people buying and pulling off market
[2017-02-12 19:49:15] Sinterklaas : Papou: hold on to BTC is the best
[2017-02-12 19:49:20] Papou : yup
[2017-02-12 19:49:24] Papou : just go overall net long
[2017-02-12 19:49:33] Papou : at a safe leverage, recommend 5x or less
[2017-02-12 19:49:35] Papou : and add on dumps
[2017-02-12 19:49:37] MikeHunt : Papou: the difficulty is artificial
[2017-02-12 19:49:48] MikeHunt : its not like gold where it's actually hard to find
[2017-02-12 19:49:50] Sinterklaas : what is your opinion on "cutting" the BTC through 1000
[2017-02-12 19:49:51] Papou : lol mike, if u watched the video i posted yest, u would see
[2017-02-12 19:49:57] Papou : bitcoin is still in mining phase
[2017-02-12 19:50:06] y1uy : ok guys stop shilling, u pumping the price and i need to close my short
[2017-02-12 19:50:06] MikeHunt : Papou: i did, its all marketting by hypers and HODLers
[2017-02-12 19:50:10] Papou : miners are tryign to get a placehold on hashrate
[2017-02-12 19:50:29] Papou : there is serious money going in bitcoin infrastrucuture
[2017-02-12 19:50:33] Papou : consider buying at 1k a blessing soon
[2017-02-12 19:51:02] Papou : your best bet if you want guaranteed profit is buy now, give yourself a safe liqquidation and keep buying on the dumps
[2017-02-12 19:51:02] MikeHunt : Papou: at the end of the day its a virtual currency of no physical value beyond the faith that others will accept it for real assets or fiat
[2017-02-12 19:51:07] Sinterklaas : yes it is, BTC will go 5x within a few years
[2017-02-12 19:51:11] Papou : mike everything in life is that way
[2017-02-12 19:51:26] Papou : every single material item has a market value of supply and demand
[2017-02-12 19:51:31] MikeHunt : Papou: gold has shown to outlast fake currencies
[2017-02-12 19:51:37] Papou : bottle of waters go for 1 dollar because thats what people are willing to pay
[2017-02-12 19:52:00] Papou : gold was used to store value because it was indestructable and limited
[2017-02-12 19:52:06] Papou : and can be controlled by the ruling class
[2017-02-12 19:52:09] Papou : its supply
[2017-02-12 19:52:13] Papou : gold has fake value
[2017-02-12 19:52:17] Papou : because its supply is endless
[2017-02-12 19:52:17] Ahhere : Papou: this China ban bitcoin scare is a world apart from that of 2013. >1k lasted much less, mtgox was the main exchange vs many today. people expect a rerun it's mad.
[2017-02-12 19:52:19] Papou : just keep mining it
[2017-02-12 19:52:23] Papou : bitcoin is fixed supply
[2017-02-12 19:52:25] Papou : much different
[2017-02-12 19:52:27] Papou : and actually has use
[2017-02-12 19:52:36] MikeHunt : Papou: mining has actually got harder for gold over time as demand has increased
[2017-02-12 19:52:41] Papou : lol right
[2017-02-12 19:52:48] MikeHunt : Papou: look into gold mining and ull see
[2017-02-12 19:52:51] Ahhere : /shill
[2017-02-12 19:52:59] MikeHunt : didnt u tell ppl to buy btc at 1006 yesterday?
[2017-02-12 19:53:03] Papou : earth makes endless gold
[2017-02-12 19:53:09] Papou : mike im not giving day trading advice
[2017-02-12 19:53:13] Papou : im giving investment advice
[2017-02-12 19:53:20] MikeHunt : Papou: fact: you said long 1006 yesterday
[2017-02-12 19:53:22] Papou : u wanna play 10$ swings at 100x leverage to make a few bucks, do it
[2017-02-12 19:53:24] Papou : thats called gambling
[2017-02-12 19:55:00] Papou : what im saying is its much smarter to go overall long, reduce ur position in profit at resistances, and restock on the dumps
[2017-02-12 19:55:04] Papou : because overall long term its up
[2017-02-12 19:55:17] Papou : its not wise to constantly go full enter and exits long/short
[2017-02-12 19:55:21] Papou : thats how u get burned
[2017-02-12 19:55:25] Papou : but if u been bull since 600
[2017-02-12 19:55:30] Papou : kept buying small with the pump
[2017-02-12 19:55:39] Papou : then reduced between 1040-1080
[2017-02-12 19:55:51] Papou : and rebought the dips since we all know they drop way below they are supposed to
[2017-02-12 19:55:52] MikeHunt : Papou: on a long time frame 1k buy could make sense
[2017-02-12 19:55:53] Papou : u are the winner
[2017-02-12 19:56:00] Papou : not trying to catch a long, thena short, then a long, then a short
[2017-02-12 19:56:02] sleger : u are sleger
[2017-02-12 19:56:05] Papou : just go long, reduce, rebuy, reduce
[2017-02-12 19:56:25] tintin : where do i click to trade XBTH17 ?
[2017-02-12 19:57:07] tintin : i c XBT perpetual swap and some xbc yuan stuff... but no XBTH17
[2017-02-12 19:57:34] Papou : fuck it trade how u guys want, u guys are the real mvp's and make the profits possible
[2017-02-12 19:57:36] tintin : never mind. found it
[2017-02-12 19:57:37] Papou : with ur emotional long/shorts
[2017-02-12 19:57:49] Papou : constantly cutting losses on bait and switches
[2017-02-12 19:57:54] y1uy : stamp dumping a bit
[2017-02-12 19:58:04] MikeHunt : Papou: i shorted at 1006 and i got 50%+ RoE so at least in short term, its working
[2017-02-12 19:58:06] Papou : boom, now ppl gonna dump out
[2017-02-12 19:58:15] Papou : thenits gonna retrace, and they rebuy in
[2017-02-12 19:58:17] Papou : lol wtf
[2017-02-12 19:58:23] y1uy : would be a nice retrace
[2017-02-12 19:58:48] Papou : or u couldve been long since 930, sold off a bit above 1000
[2017-02-12 19:58:52] Papou : and slowly rebuy in the dumps
[2017-02-12 19:58:56] Papou : wouldve been much better mike
[2017-02-12 19:59:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 22500 @ 6733.0
[2017-02-12 19:59:27] MikeHunt : Papou: in hindsight yes but i was too dumb to catch that back then
[2017-02-12 19:59:55] Papou : because u are literally trying to catch the top and bottom of every wave
[2017-02-12 20:00:03] Papou : so start fresh
[2017-02-12 20:00:12] sleger : MikeHunt: are you saying you are less dumb now ?
[2017-02-12 20:00:17] Papou : like example, u have 1 btc on your account right now
[2017-02-12 20:00:23] Papou : buy 2000 contracts at 1k
[2017-02-12 20:00:26] MikeHunt : sleger: im sure you'd disagree if i said yes ;)
[2017-02-12 20:00:31] Papou : if it goes to 980 but 500 more
[2017-02-12 20:00:37] Papou : if it goes to 960 buy 500 more
[2017-02-12 20:00:46] Papou : u gotta start small and build ur position
[2017-02-12 20:01:07] MikeHunt : Papou: next bounce off support rail ill do that
[2017-02-12 20:01:30] Sinterklaas : Papou: you long it anyway?
[2017-02-12 20:01:54] -_- : we pumping
[2017-02-12 20:02:16] Papou : yes im overall long
[2017-02-12 20:02:17] -_- : well not bitstamp
[2017-02-12 20:02:42] MikeHunt : Papou: im talking about short term stuff
[2017-02-12 20:02:54] abbey : houston, we are ready
[2017-02-12 20:02:57] MikeHunt : like within a month
[2017-02-12 20:03:07] MikeHunt : or two
[2017-02-12 20:03:49] Papou : stop gambling mike
[2017-02-12 20:03:51] Papou : and start investing
[2017-02-12 20:04:23] Papou : go long on cross and put a starting positon with a liquidation of like 600
[2017-02-12 20:04:25] y1uy : interesting times, klook at this chart https://www.tradingview.com/x/PWyRGpsX/
[2017-02-12 20:04:41] MikeHunt : Papou: my investments are in gold
[2017-02-12 20:04:49] Papou : u are crazy
[2017-02-12 20:05:08] MikeHunt : well partially
[2017-02-12 20:05:12] Sinterklaas : y1uy: you think they gonna replay that second dump?
[2017-02-12 20:05:43] MikeHunt : Papou: if we can bounce the rail that currently runs along ~800 ill prob open a 200k
[2017-02-12 20:05:48] MikeHunt : or at least a 50k
[2017-02-12 20:05:56] MikeHunt : then do as u said above
[2017-02-12 20:06:13] Papou : ...
[2017-02-12 20:06:15] Papou : u had ur dump
[2017-02-12 20:06:21] MikeHunt : in your opinion
[2017-02-12 20:06:22] Papou : if u missed it, dont be greedy and wishful
[2017-02-12 20:06:34] MikeHunt : my main decision will be after ETF decision
[2017-02-12 20:06:52] Papou : have fun buying at 1500 then
[2017-02-12 20:07:18] MikeHunt : Papou: u think we'll be 1500 b4 etf?
[2017-02-12 20:07:27] Papou : could be after
[2017-02-12 20:07:43] MikeHunt : as soon as its yes/no, next second my trade will be placed
[2017-02-12 20:07:57] Sinterklaas : Papou: im positive about ETF approval, are you?
[2017-02-12 20:08:54] Papou : yup
[2017-02-12 20:09:06] MikeHunt : yeh for me its 0%
[2017-02-12 20:09:13] JT : ETF is happening. Doesn't matter if COIN is rejected.
[2017-02-12 20:09:13] Papou : thats what they want you to think
[2017-02-12 20:09:23] MikeHunt : JT: +1
[2017-02-12 20:09:44] Sultan Pepper : MikeHunt: you short on coin?
[2017-02-12 20:10:02] MikeHunt : Sultan Pepper: not touching unless it goes a lot higher
[2017-02-12 20:10:10] MikeHunt : Sultan Pepper: its too betting/binary for me
[2017-02-12 20:10:16] Sultan Pepper : same
[2017-02-12 20:10:17] MikeHunt : and i dont have insider info or equivalent
[2017-02-12 20:10:30] MikeHunt : brexit/trump betting was obvious, this is much less
[2017-02-12 20:13:43] MadDog : Mike, if you love gold then invest in me. :)
[2017-02-12 20:13:47] MadDog : <3
[2017-02-12 20:14:06] MikeHunt : MadDog: lol, if u can last 2 weeks+ i might consider it
[2017-02-12 20:15:02] MadDog : Although my rules seem solid I have lost confidence in myself as a trader
[2017-02-12 20:15:14] MadDog : It seems I almost purposefully wreck myself
[2017-02-12 20:15:28] MikeHunt : MadDog: u earn some, get overconfident and leverage rekt urself?
[2017-02-12 20:15:38] MadDog : yes, euphoria
[2017-02-12 20:15:51] MadDog : or... "oh, this small amount doesn't mean anything anyway"
[2017-02-12 20:15:55] MadDog : is my other mistake
[2017-02-12 20:16:39] MikeHunt : MadDog: only use leverage at known fibs
[2017-02-12 20:16:45] MikeHunt : MadDog: or support points
[2017-02-12 20:16:49] MadDog : Word
[2017-02-12 20:16:58] MadDog : I'm getting connected to all the charts and twitters and things
[2017-02-12 20:17:11] MikeHunt : MadDog: even then start off with 10% chunk and once confirmed u can steadily increase on each drop
[2017-02-12 20:17:14] MadDog : gonna start using much more information rather than just watching okcoin.cn
[2017-02-12 20:17:16] MikeHunt : (iif long)
[2017-02-12 20:17:27] MadDog : Exactly, start small
[2017-02-12 20:17:34] MadDog : That is one of my new strategies
[2017-02-12 20:17:46] MikeHunt : MadDog: okc is usually a good source but recently stamp has taken over a bit
[2017-02-12 20:17:52] MikeHunt : so i watch them mostly now
[2017-02-12 20:18:07] MadDog : interesting.. maybe why the other day bitmex was not following .cn at all
[2017-02-12 20:18:37] MikeHunt : MadDog: i think that ignoring china is ill fated, see analogy http://i.imgur.com/wee4t6L.png
[2017-02-12 20:18:54] MikeHunt : the result being maybe this... http://i.imgur.com/ki4iPm9.png
[2017-02-12 20:20:01] MadDog : Right, imagine if this happened in the US
[2017-02-12 20:20:13] MadDog : This is serious.. 10s of thousands of people can't access their money
[2017-02-12 20:20:28] MadDog : Bitcoin is worthless to them now
[2017-02-12 20:20:39] MadDog : I don't see how anyone could long this
[2017-02-12 20:21:18] MadDog : Even with ETF news
[2017-02-12 20:21:35] MadDog : I think we're propped up on hope right now
[2017-02-12 20:21:50] MadDog : ETF fail? Back to 700s
[2017-02-12 20:22:14] Yuppie : Agree this freezing of accounts is the worst that could happen to any market
[2017-02-12 20:22:20] YOLOCOIN : INCOMING SMASH
[2017-02-12 20:22:25] Yuppie : Much worse than fees etc
[2017-02-12 20:23:44] MikeHunt : oh i dont think they've even started yet
[2017-02-12 20:23:59] MikeHunt : apparently they will have withdrawal limits
[2017-02-12 20:24:06] MikeHunt : (basically capital controls)
[2017-02-12 20:24:15] MikeHunt : if ETF re inflates bubble, expect PBOC to return
[2017-02-12 20:24:23] MikeHunt : https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_banners/829447997691883520/1486597690/1500x500
[2017-02-12 20:25:10] rullwull : i think chinese already sold out what they kept on the exchanges, foreigners moved their coins from there few weeks earlier
[2017-02-12 20:25:49] MikeHunt : rullwull: withdrawal on CNY exchanges isnt an option for some
[2017-02-12 20:25:55] MikeHunt : ie: corrupt officials sending money out of country
[2017-02-12 20:26:11] MikeHunt : whales who avoid tax (prob 99% of them)
[2017-02-12 20:26:35] -_- : anyone got a link to the image where it shows LTC heavier than the sun and 2 other things
[2017-02-12 20:26:48] Yuppie : Watch what happens to OK Hong Kong...wouldnt bet on it staying unaffected
[2017-02-12 20:27:04] MikeHunt : HK is harder for PBoC to fuck with
[2017-02-12 20:27:14] rullwull : cny withdrawal is not closed
[2017-02-12 20:27:36] MikeHunt : rullwull: OKC/Huobi/ChBTC on 1 month lock down
[2017-02-12 20:27:38] MikeHunt : BTCC on 10 day
[2017-02-12 20:27:52] rullwull : MikeHunt: only BTC/LTC
[2017-02-12 20:28:11] MikeHunt : rullwull: yes BTC/LTC withdrawals
[2017-02-12 20:28:16] MikeHunt : fiat can still be withdrawn
[2017-02-12 20:28:43] MikeHunt : https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/829853613765718016
[2017-02-12 20:28:50] MikeHunt : (BTCC extended to 10days)
[2017-02-12 20:29:05] rullwull : the problem is that chinese exchanges fu...ed a few reach chinese during the last pump and these people fu..ed back
[2017-02-12 20:29:28] MikeHunt : rullwull: i expect more fuckery in the future
[2017-02-12 20:30:04] MikeHunt : a dump b4 china comes back would be a great chance to go long in time for ETF decision, which ever way it goes
[2017-02-12 20:30:59] rullwull : i simply dont undesrtand who's gonna dump, users wouldnt deposit coins there, all coins an
[2017-02-12 20:31:11] rullwull : on the exchanges alrwady changes hands
[2017-02-12 20:31:29] MikeHunt : rullwull: leveraged shorting was usually responsible for heavy dips
[2017-02-12 20:32:00] MikeHunt : usually on china exchanges
[2017-02-12 20:32:09] rullwull : no more leverage, no more shorting, no more new coins deposit
[2017-02-12 20:32:10] MikeHunt : and PBOC interventions
[2017-02-12 20:32:22] rullwull : nothing to dump
[2017-02-12 20:32:23] MikeHunt : okc USD still has leveraged shorting up to 20x
[2017-02-12 20:32:44] rullwull : okc.com is different from .cn
[2017-02-12 20:32:50] MikeHunt : yup
[2017-02-12 20:32:57] rullwull : dont compare them
[2017-02-12 20:33:00] MikeHunt : but chinese until recently could transfer to them
[2017-02-12 20:33:09] MikeHunt : or other exchanges to dump on
[2017-02-12 20:33:42] MikeHunt : also not everyone shares btc eurphoria
[2017-02-12 20:33:52] MikeHunt : some want to sell and go into other assets they are more comfortable with
[2017-02-12 20:34:40] rullwull : bagholders or miners wouldnt dump, their goal to accumulate coins, crowd already sold out
[2017-02-12 20:36:37] MikeHunt : rullwull: the major drops dont come from bagholders but traders
[2017-02-12 20:36:45] MikeHunt : leveraged shorting etc.
[2017-02-12 20:36:52] Ahhere : rullwull: short is a crowded trade
[2017-02-12 20:37:20] rullwull : no more shorts on cny spot
[2017-02-12 20:37:35] MikeHunt : rullwull: west is leading so dump will have to come from there
[2017-02-12 20:37:42] MikeHunt : until china back online
[2017-02-12 20:37:56] MikeHunt : also i dont think all chinese dumped as i said above
[2017-02-12 20:38:10] MikeHunt : CNY is worse than hodlings on exchanges in some scenarios
[2017-02-12 20:38:15] MikeHunt : especially for large bag holders
[2017-02-12 20:39:29] rullwull : oh, so u believe that west willdump because of problems in china that only concern chinese users? fyi chinese exchanges were closed for foreigners a few weeks ago and allforeign users already moved their coins from there
[2017-02-12 20:40:31] rullwull : west is not affected by this problem, why west should short it with leverage?
[2017-02-12 20:40:52] MikeHunt : rullwull: i think the western exchanges are like a dog on a lead, they think they can run off after the owners had a heart attack
[2017-02-12 20:42:07] MikeHunt : choyna is responsible for the last 1.5yr bull run
[2017-02-12 20:43:33] rullwull : anyway west didnt loose anything because of it, however i have about 40 btc on one of my chinese employee okc.cn account
[2017-02-12 20:43:57] MikeHunt : rullwull: good luck getting that out
[2017-02-12 20:44:04] rullwull : but i didnt dump them
[2017-02-12 20:44:14] rullwull : can wait for month
[2017-02-12 20:44:28] MikeHunt : rullwull: yeh so ur living proof that not all chinese dumped
[2017-02-12 20:44:38] MikeHunt : CNY sucks more than BTC
[2017-02-12 20:44:53] rullwull : agree with this)
[2017-02-12 20:46:21] rullwull : i lived in china, i know how everything work there, this is not mtgox, this is just complain from some reach chinese who is trying to get their losses back
[2017-02-12 20:47:11] MikeHunt : rullwull: yeh, china exchanges are too transparent for an inside job by owners to work imo
[2017-02-12 20:48:03] yungyang : MikeHunt: oh mr hunt. the expert on Chinese exchanges
[2017-02-12 20:48:43] MikeHunt : ahh @yungyang , here to brighten everyones day...
[2017-02-12 20:49:02] Nooby : duuuuuummpppp!!!!!
[2017-02-12 20:49:10] Nooby : 900 soon
[2017-02-12 20:49:16] MikeHunt : Nooby: maybe lower ;)
[2017-02-12 20:49:31] rullwull : so, thats why i consider it as a good opportunity to buy, dont think there will be a dip bigger than $20, i long since 950
[2017-02-12 20:49:39] Nooby : euhhhh hope so but i don t believe it
[2017-02-12 20:50:10] MikeHunt : Nooby: supports are 980, 940, 880 iirc
[2017-02-12 21:00:49] rapidtrades : china bout to woop ur asses
[2017-02-12 21:01:49] jphamer1 : any news today?
[2017-02-12 21:05:11] jung1 : https://themerkle.com/hal-finneys-password-changed/
[2017-02-12 21:06:30] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: it's only 5am in china
[2017-02-12 21:06:31] jung1 : its crazy to short bitcoin
[2017-02-12 21:06:42] BTCDJS : jung1: oh really?
[2017-02-12 21:06:55] BTCDJS : Really tho
[2017-02-12 21:07:30] rapidtrades : jung1: my middle name is Crazy bish
[2017-02-12 21:07:39] jung1 : https://cointracking.info/ check that kick ass site
[2017-02-12 21:07:57] jung1 : specially https://cointracking.info/bitcoin_analysis.php
[2017-02-12 21:08:05] sleger : i looked it sux
[2017-02-12 21:08:38] jung1 : try to click in some features
[2017-02-12 21:09:52] rapidtrades : i like this premium shit
[2017-02-12 21:11:39] rapidtrades : longs are like 'shit im pyaing 0.08% i better pump this'
[2017-02-12 21:11:55] rapidtrades : i've found that longers are pretty dumb in general
[2017-02-12 21:13:15] jung1 : I dont like that futures fot ETF. Bitmex is not casino betting site
[2017-02-12 21:13:42] BTCDJS : Yes it is
[2017-02-12 21:13:46] BTCDJS : ask nog
[2017-02-12 21:14:06] rapidtrades : jung1: its cool
[2017-02-12 21:14:15] rapidtrades : don't like it don't use it
[2017-02-12 21:14:44] rapidtrades : it will bring down the general IQ even more here, hopefully leading to easier $$$
[2017-02-12 21:15:31] jung1 : rapidtrades: whats your bet on ETF btw?
[2017-02-12 21:15:44] rapidtrades : <5% odds
[2017-02-12 21:15:50] j8 : i like it. i don't think there's any market makers on it, just regular people orders
[2017-02-12 21:16:42] jung1 : same
[2017-02-12 21:16:43] j8 : are you selling it rapid?
[2017-02-12 21:16:54] jung1 : ok maybe 20%
[2017-02-12 21:17:08] rapidtrades : im waiting for idiots to buy my asks
[2017-02-12 21:17:12] jung1 : but I hope there will be 200-300$ dump after decision
[2017-02-12 21:18:09] rapidtrades : there's no liquidity on the downside
[2017-02-12 21:18:29] rapidtrades : ppl are scared to leave the bids in case of a rejecting
[2017-02-12 21:18:50] Noobz : Market is boring. I think during maintenance they turn off the volatility button and forgot to put it on again.
[2017-02-12 21:18:56] j8 : rapidtrades: sure i'll buy lots at 10, that's a great deal if you think it's worth 5
[2017-02-12 21:19:41] rapidtrades : no tnx i'll wait with my asks
[2017-02-12 21:20:32] sleger : just like aethlios waiting for 800 although he thinks its going to 2500-2800
[2017-02-12 21:21:11] rapidtrades : yes cos we're smart
[2017-02-12 21:21:25] j8 : meh, why not wait for the best entry?
[2017-02-12 21:21:39] jung1 : BUY HIGH SELL LOW
[2017-02-12 21:21:42] rapidtrades : we're counting on other ppl stupidity
[2017-02-12 21:21:44] jung1 : STAY CLASSY
[2017-02-12 21:23:00] jung1 : guys Whats your thoughts on KYC and AML in cryptocurrency ecosystem? Market will adapt or most of volume will move to decentralized exchanges?
[2017-02-12 21:23:21] jung1 : [discussion]
[2017-02-12 21:23:23] -_- : is there were better options without KYC and AML people would use them
[2017-02-12 21:24:00] -_- : lol @ that cointracking website
[2017-02-12 21:24:02] -_- : predicting a dump
[2017-02-12 21:24:27] jphamer1 : any ideas when we can expect etf decision?
[2017-02-12 21:24:37] jung1 : -_-: (Calculated from 8,901,312 records)
[2017-02-12 21:24:49] BTCDJS : jphamer1: etf was accepted on friday
[2017-02-12 21:25:00] rapidtrades : anytime between now and march 12
[2017-02-12 21:25:03] BTCDJS : nobody cared
[2017-02-12 21:25:14] jung1 : 11.03
[2017-02-12 21:25:15] jphamer1 : BTCDJS: ??
[2017-02-12 21:25:22] rapidtrades : more likely during the US session
[2017-02-12 21:25:24] BTCDJS : Just joking
[2017-02-12 21:25:27] -_- : i would say friday late afternoon
[2017-02-12 21:25:53] jung1 : https://www.sec.gov/rules/sro/batsbzx/2017/34-79725.pdf
[2017-02-12 21:25:57] jung1 : 11.03 is deadline
[2017-02-12 21:26:17] rapidtrades : if the winklewii are supprting prices u will see a crash before they announce the withdrawal
[2017-02-12 21:26:33] aethlios : sleger: doesn't work that way, i now expect 2,800 but if we go 800 or 700 expectetions could change based on new data.
[2017-02-12 21:26:44] -_- : march 10th i would say we get an answer
[2017-02-12 21:27:17] rapidtrades : march 12 is sunday so ur right, latest will be march 10th
[2017-02-12 21:27:43] -_- : jung1: that is a lot of records. will be interesting if it comes true
[2017-02-12 21:27:56] jung1 : they are working on it since june '16
[2017-02-12 21:28:07] Ahhere : jung1: 11:03 lol so strange
[2017-02-12 21:28:27] jung1 : -_-: yeah its interesting as fuck, google trends, traffic of network
[2017-02-12 21:28:32] jung1 : everything included
[2017-02-12 21:28:35] -_- : yeah
[2017-02-12 21:28:40] -_- : new weekly candle in 2 1/2 hours
[2017-02-12 21:29:17] jung1 : I will try to short it
[2017-02-12 21:30:39] rapidtrades : etf is the last hope for the bulls and they're betting on it
[2017-02-12 21:32:51] jung1 : investment funds invest tons of cash in bitcoin
[2017-02-12 21:33:10] jung1 : its possible that we will make new ath this year
[2017-02-12 21:33:28] rapidtrades : not rly no
[2017-02-12 21:34:04] jung1 : one is shure. We will not make new all time low ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2017-02-12 21:36:45] herpinator : dam this sideways action is so boring
[2017-02-12 21:36:54] herpinator : how can you make money on this?
[2017-02-12 21:37:18] jphamer1 : you can't you just stare at the screen and prey to jebus
[2017-02-12 21:37:39] jung1 : herpinator: https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_nxc
[2017-02-12 21:39:42] herpinator : jung1: interesting but I don't trade alts, well occasionally I will go short my perspective was ruined after I used to work with a group who would collude with devs doing inside trading in exchange for market making and shilling of what were nothing more than scamcoins
[2017-02-12 21:40:15] herpinator : this was a few years back now
[2017-02-12 21:40:56] jung1 : yeah but sometimes is funny to watch
[2017-02-12 21:41:34] MikeHunt : could well be a crash if china exchanges really have capital controls as rumoured
[2017-02-12 21:41:35] MikeHunt : and ETF fails
[2017-02-12 21:41:51] MikeHunt : oh and coinbase IRS thing
[2017-02-12 21:42:56] jung1 : once I participate in pairpump pumps. blockchain based voting, aroung 50btc volume and like 1600% in 12min
[2017-02-12 21:43:01] jung1 : pretty funny
[2017-02-12 21:44:24] MikeHunt : isnt stratis the latest scamcoin?
[2017-02-12 21:45:54] jung1 : every week there is something new
[2017-02-12 21:46:33] jung1 : https://www.icocountdown.com/ pretty safe to watch which do not collect all money, more space to grow
[2017-02-12 21:47:47] jung1 : I tested also https://coindata.io/coindata , interesting idea but too much alerts
[2017-02-12 21:48:06] jung1 : really chaotic
[2017-02-12 21:51:08] MikeHunt : problem is a drop can come out of no where
[2017-02-12 21:52:55] Dynamix : MikeHunt: How can you be so sure ?
[2017-02-12 21:53:07] MikeHunt : Dynamix: pboc news is example
[2017-02-12 21:53:13] MikeHunt : external factor
[2017-02-12 21:53:15] MikeHunt : not TA based
[2017-02-12 21:53:26] Dynamix : MikeHunt: When will that happen ? :P
[2017-02-12 21:55:10] yungyang : "black swan"
[2017-02-12 22:03:34] loomdart : hello friends
[2017-02-12 22:09:29] BTCDJS : Hey loom
[2017-02-12 22:09:42] BTCDJS : sup
[2017-02-12 22:09:53] loomdart : not much pal
[2017-02-12 22:09:55] loomdart : how about yourself?
[2017-02-12 22:10:14] BTCDJS : Boring market
[2017-02-12 22:10:25] BTCDJS : otherwise cool
[2017-02-12 22:10:27] loomdart : come trade shift with me :D
[2017-02-12 22:12:08] BTCDJS : I got my alt bags. I'm on 1broker during the week. I usually stay out of bitcoin when it's ranging but I decided to have a go this time.
[2017-02-12 22:12:30] BTCDJS : Don't really like Alts
[2017-02-12 22:12:41] loomdart : awww I see :(
[2017-02-12 22:12:54] loomdart : shift is a cool bag tho, it just goes up in value :D
[2017-02-12 22:13:06] BTCDJS : loomdart: you betting BTC up or down?
[2017-02-12 22:13:22] BTCDJS : Ill take a look at it ?
[2017-02-12 22:13:28] loomdart : I'm thinking down, betting on sideways positions wise tho
[2017-02-12 22:13:39] BTCDJS : loomdart: long run I mean
[2017-02-12 22:13:43] loomdart : long run?
[2017-02-12 22:13:46] loomdart : we break ath this year
[2017-02-12 22:14:19] BTCDJS : Really? I'm thinking bear market. So many moon kids
[2017-02-12 22:14:45] BTCDJS : I hope it does tho
[2017-02-12 22:15:37] loomdart : with bitcoin I usually think of it as trading against the fellow populace of earth
[2017-02-12 22:15:44] loomdart : as oppose to trading against fellow bitcoin traders
[2017-02-12 22:15:49] loomdart : but eh whatever works
[2017-02-12 22:17:50] BTCDJS : What exchange is shift on?
[2017-02-12 22:17:58] loomdart : 'trex
[2017-02-12 22:18:02] loomdart : I was mostly joking btw about shift
[2017-02-12 22:18:10] loomdart : it's my coin stay away *bares teeth*
[2017-02-12 22:18:16] BTCDJS : oh
[2017-02-12 22:18:18] BTCDJS : lol
[2017-02-12 22:18:27] loomdart : but soon
[2017-02-12 22:18:30] loomdart : skyrocket
[2017-02-12 22:19:04] BTCDJS : I lost 2FA and trex is the only exchange I haven't emailed to sort out yet
[2017-02-12 22:21:02] MikeHunt : Dynamix: have to follow news to find that out
[2017-02-12 22:22:37] BTCDJS : loomdart: Hey loom. Think DOGE and DGB will pump this year?
[2017-02-12 22:23:20] BTCDJS : Or can we forget about it if BTC breaks ATH
[2017-02-12 22:23:31] loomdart : man I honestly don't know
[2017-02-12 22:23:38] loomdart : doge I bought otc for like a equivalent price of 500 sats
[2017-02-12 22:23:44] loomdart : my first ever trade lmao
[2017-02-12 22:23:52] loomdart : dgb is dgb
[2017-02-12 22:25:12] BTCDJS : I got them because they were bottomed out. With doge I was hoping history would repeat. But they say things happen in threes I hope doge goes for a fourth even 50% would be fine.
[2017-02-12 22:25:28] BTCDJS : DGB thats an annoying little coin.
[2017-02-12 22:26:23] BTCDJS : Very under-appreciated but the chart looks ugly as fuck
[2017-02-12 22:29:18] loomdart : yeah dgb doesn't get much love
[2017-02-12 22:29:21] loomdart : but it might do sth soon
[2017-02-12 22:29:24] loomdart : who knows :-)
[2017-02-12 22:29:35] loomdart : doge is just doge man
[2017-02-12 22:29:38] loomdart : shit's wack
[2017-02-12 22:31:29] MikeHunt : anyone reckon Agoras might pump?
[2017-02-12 22:36:24] BTCDJS : Doge is an old school coin though with a community and memes and shit. I have faith it will rise again. But I dont think it can outlast some of the others.
[2017-02-12 22:38:58] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: never heard of it mate
[2017-02-12 22:41:59] charlyko : if you like olds coins check feathercoins!
[2017-02-12 22:42:11] charlyko : low prices ever!!
[2017-02-12 22:42:38] BTCDJS : charlyko: that coin is dead
[2017-02-12 22:42:38] MikeHunt : i remember mining doge and feathercoin, even ltc at one point
[2017-02-12 22:42:40] MikeHunt : damn i feel old
[2017-02-12 22:42:59] BTCDJS : never coming back
[2017-02-12 22:43:04] charlyko : feather will have his summerpump. as always
[2017-02-12 22:43:21] MikeHunt : what about this? https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-AGRS
[2017-02-12 22:43:36] charlyko : I know agoras and have a few
[2017-02-12 22:43:38] charlyko : but is very early
[2017-02-12 22:43:50] MikeHunt : charlyko: think it might PnD eventually thou?
[2017-02-12 22:43:56] charlyko : not genesis block not white paper just assets and smoke
[2017-02-12 22:43:56] MikeHunt : (chance to make $$$)
[2017-02-12 22:43:59] charlyko : dont think so
[2017-02-12 22:44:41] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: dont know the FA but if you buy the bottom youre usually goin to make some money. Depends on the Fundamentals though
[2017-02-12 22:44:56] charlyko : BTCDJS: buy feather them...
[2017-02-12 22:45:23] charlyko : you say fast the coin is dead when they release a new wallet few days ago.. so..
[2017-02-12 22:45:31] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: on 1d chart zoomed out it looks like decending triangle and been pumped a few times
[2017-02-12 22:45:43] BTCDJS : charlyko: I got three bags. I will dump them and never touch alts again
[2017-02-12 22:45:55] charlyko : you are smart
[2017-02-12 22:46:00] MikeHunt : i think the alternative to BTC is probably 1broker
[2017-02-12 22:46:09] MikeHunt : completely uncorrelated
[2017-02-12 22:46:15] charlyko : can I ask wich bags ?
[2017-02-12 22:46:28] BTCDJS : charlyko: NAUT DGB DOGE
[2017-02-12 22:46:40] BTCDJS : bought the bottom
[2017-02-12 22:46:45] charlyko : I hold also naut and doge
[2017-02-12 22:46:48] BTCDJS : now just waiting
[2017-02-12 22:47:55] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: I like 1broker. Stocks seem like easy money better than trading altcoins. They are so unreliable