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[2015-11-10 11:54:30] floopfloop : laisee: got a 24h psotion?
[2015-11-10 11:54:31] laisee : confidence
[2015-11-10 11:54:33] laisee : confidence
[2015-11-10 11:54:43] laisee : I
[2015-11-10 11:54:44] laisee : don'
[2015-11-10 11:54:45] laisee : don' da
[2015-11-10 11:54:46] laisee : don' dare a
[2015-11-10 11:54:47] laisee : don' dare ade 24
[2015-11-10 11:54:47] floopfloop : im long at 374.81
[2015-11-10 11:54:48] laisee : don' dare ade 24H
[2015-11-10 11:54:49] laisee : don' dare ade 24H, h
[2015-11-10 11:54:50] laisee : don' dare ade 24H, h
[2015-11-10 11:54:55] laisee : `
[2015-11-10 11:55:01] floopfloop : ^^^^
[2015-11-10 11:55:16] floopfloop : i got in at the last minute when to market dropped
[2015-11-10 11:55:40] floopfloop : 4 min
[2015-11-10 11:57:37] floopfloop : wow btc booming in the final seconds here
[2015-11-10 11:59:26] floopfloop : 1.5893
[2015-11-10 11:59:30] floopfloop : oops
[2015-11-10 12:03:30] TschavaTschigger : happy new trading day to everyone < 3
[2015-11-10 12:12:20] redlose : Nice one. I started 7 days ago with 1 BTC now i have 20 in my pocket :)
[2015-11-10 12:13:39] BitMEX_Wally : redlose: Nice
[2015-11-10 12:15:10] redlose : I like this site way more than okcoin. sad that the weekly, mothly etc have such a thin orderbook :(
[2015-11-10 12:15:41] BitMEX_Wally : We're working on it. People love daily
[2015-11-10 12:15:46] BitMEX_Wally : We're looking at listing `XBT48H`
[2015-11-10 12:15:58] BitMEX_Wally : Which after 24 hours becomes `XBT24H`
[2015-11-10 12:16:04] BitMEX_Wally : So it shares the liquidity
[2015-11-10 12:16:23] redlose : that sounds complicated to understand xD
[2015-11-10 12:16:46] BitMEX_Wally : I think people will work it out
[2015-11-10 12:17:27] redlose : if you keep it simple yes. keeping it simple is the way of success!
[2015-11-10 12:17:51] floopfloop : lies!
[2015-11-10 12:17:53] BitMEX_Wally : If it is Monday and I am long `XBT48H` which expires Wednesday 12:00 then on Tuesday my position will move to `XBT24H` which expires Wednesday 12:00
[2015-11-10 12:18:22] BitMEX_Wally : I'm not sure if we can make it much simpler
[2015-11-10 12:18:40] redlose : but will there reopen a new XBT48H or will it fade for 24 hours?
[2015-11-10 12:18:52] redlose : but sounds good
[2015-11-10 12:18:55] BitMEX_Wally : We will reopen a new `XBT48H`
[2015-11-10 12:19:01] BitMEX_Wally : So at all times you can choose between 48 or 24
[2015-11-10 12:19:11] redlose : nice
[2015-11-10 12:19:23] BitMEX_Wally : Or maybe call it `XBT2D` or something
[2015-11-10 12:19:47] BitMEX_Wally : The trick is to pool the liquidity rather than spread it too thin
[2015-11-10 12:20:05] redlose : yeah
[2015-11-10 12:20:13] BitMEX_Wally : You can think of `XBT48H` as a way of getting into `XBT24H` early
[2015-11-10 12:21:31] redlose : i am missing only one Order. Is there a possibility to start a order when a price triggers?
[2015-11-10 12:21:56] BitMEX_Wally : If you want to buy when the price goes up use a Stop Limit
[2015-11-10 12:22:04] BitMEX_Wally : If you want to buy when the price goes down, that's just a regular Limit order
[2015-11-10 12:22:06] redlose : For example if the price hits 380 i want to put a order for 10'000 contracts for a price of 381
[2015-11-10 12:22:14] BitMEX_Wally : redlose: Stop Limit is your friend
[2015-11-10 12:22:18] redlose : alright
[2015-11-10 12:22:24] BitMEX_Wally : Put a limit price of 381 and a stop price of 380
[2015-11-10 12:22:38] BitMEX_Wally : Just beware that the risk checks and margin calculations are done when it triggers
[2015-11-10 12:22:55] BitMEX_Wally : So make sure you have the margin in your account then otherwise it will trigger and be rejected
[2015-11-10 12:27:44] TschavaTschigger : bitfinex api working for you guys?
[2015-11-10 12:28:16] TschavaTschigger : never mind, working again
[2015-11-10 13:11:05] TschavaTschigger : dump time
[2015-11-10 13:11:46] jung1 : http://www.coinfox.info/news/persons/3647-russian-ponzi-scheme-creator-claims-he-can-influence-bitcoin-economy
[2015-11-10 13:11:50] jung1 : told ya
[2015-11-10 13:11:56] jung1 : 300 is comming
[2015-11-10 13:13:37] TschavaTschigger : yeah
[2015-11-10 13:15:08] TschavaTschigger : next dump will be bigger
[2015-11-10 13:17:49] jung1 : indeed
[2015-11-10 13:20:44] TschavaTschigger : dumping time
[2015-11-10 13:25:47] jmahh : or not
[2015-11-10 13:34:41] TschavaTschigger : or not? :D
[2015-11-10 13:34:59] TschavaTschigger : its going downhill, you better hop on :)
[2015-11-10 13:35:51] jung1 : 280-300 befre '16 pump
[2015-11-10 13:35:55] jung1 : before
[2015-11-10 13:35:59] jung1 : thats mybet
[2015-11-10 13:36:28] jung1 : 358
[2015-11-10 13:36:35] TschavaTschigger : lol
[2015-11-10 13:36:37] jung1 : damn
[2015-11-10 13:36:47] TschavaTschigger : what did I say? :)
[2015-11-10 13:36:54] jung1 : hehe
[2015-11-10 13:36:54] kendang : what's going on with the bid side? so thin!
[2015-11-10 13:37:28] jung1 : someone dumped from 370 to 345
[2015-11-10 13:37:50] kendang : wow
[2015-11-10 13:38:14] kendang : best casino ever
[2015-11-10 13:38:45] jung1 : protip: put close limits
[2015-11-10 13:40:36] TschavaTschigger : I guess someone needs to tweak his bot haha
[2015-11-10 13:42:02] TschavaTschigger : that was funny.. I like action, I don't really care what way the price is going
[2015-11-10 13:42:33] jung1 : t be honest i prefer bear market
[2015-11-10 13:42:54] TschavaTschigger : the sells from 371 to 358 in like 8 seconds... haha
[2015-11-10 13:42:59] kendang : jung1: me too. somehow i am more comfortable short
[2015-11-10 13:43:27] jung1 : or we just get used to it
[2015-11-10 13:43:32] jung1 : in last 2 years
[2015-11-10 13:43:34] jung1 : ;)
[2015-11-10 13:44:02] habibi : anyway most people have better results in bullish market
[2015-11-10 13:44:25] jung1 : if you withrawal your money
[2015-11-10 13:44:53] jung1 : most difficult in trading is to keep your money
[2015-11-10 13:45:14] jung1 : I lost like two times most o my coins in my trader career
[2015-11-10 13:45:45] kendang : jung1: you didn't really lose. you paid tuitition.
[2015-11-10 13:46:15] kendang : jung1: how many coins did you lose if i may ask?
[2015-11-10 13:46:17] TschavaTschigger : wow, someone sold 24h big on 370 like 5 seconds before the indices broke down
[2015-11-10 13:47:06] jung1 : well Im not whale but I think total could be arond 250-300
[2015-11-10 13:47:25] kendang : 250-300 coins?
[2015-11-10 13:47:39] kendang : jesus
[2015-11-10 13:47:58] kendang : all on bitmex?
[2015-11-10 13:48:04] TschavaTschigger : crazy shit
[2015-11-10 13:48:24] jung1 : nah
[2015-11-10 13:48:43] kendang : and here i am with a trading capital of 0.005 coins. i feel poorer than ever
[2015-11-10 13:49:05] kendang : but i am going to buy some more coins later this week
[2015-11-10 13:49:19] kendang : just trading small to learn
[2015-11-10 13:49:25] jung1 : you could make 300% in last 10min here
[2015-11-10 13:49:45] kendang : or lose 100%
[2015-11-10 13:49:45] kendang : ...
[2015-11-10 13:49:54] jung1 : no risk no fun
[2015-11-10 13:50:07] jung1 : play small amounts with isolate margin
[2015-11-10 13:50:26] jung1 : 'if you love it, let it go"
[2015-11-10 13:50:27] jung1 : hehe
[2015-11-10 13:50:47] TschavaTschigger : someone sold at 345 ten minutes ago xD
[2015-11-10 13:50:50] kendang : how does isolate margin work? i don't get it
[2015-11-10 13:50:59] Murch : Dis quarterly premium though
[2015-11-10 13:51:23] kendang : normally i have 100x leverage. and with isolate margin?
[2015-11-10 13:51:49] jung1 : kendang: you play with argin that you open one positon. without it i you will lose o position it will take from othe positions or deposit
[2015-11-10 13:51:56] TschavaTschigger : kendang: read the guides, they explain it really well, better than every trollbox user (including me)
[2015-11-10 13:52:20] kendang : TschavaTschigger: ok
[2015-11-10 13:57:27] jung1 : damn
[2015-11-10 13:57:40] jung1 : 300 ill be faster than I though
[2015-11-10 14:00:40] habibi : Murch: hello !
[2015-11-10 14:00:53] Murch : habibi: Hey man, how goes it?
[2015-11-10 14:01:05] habibi : pretty good, i like panic on the streets
[2015-11-10 14:01:15] habibi : how about you?
[2015-11-10 14:01:51] Murch : habibi: haha yeah can't complain about action. Doing alright, I have a short on the quarterly averaged out to 515 about
[2015-11-10 14:03:54] habibi : now its panic without support on chinese
[2015-11-10 14:04:10] habibi : lel same prices now
[2015-11-10 14:04:14] habibi : chinese and west
[2015-11-10 14:04:36] Murch : How low. Can you go?
[2015-11-10 14:04:47] kendang : 280?
[2015-11-10 14:05:01] jung1 : something like that
[2015-11-10 14:05:11] jung1 : we will see around 300
[2015-11-10 14:05:25] jung1 : maybe it will be next floor before '16 pump
[2015-11-10 14:05:31] habibi : 340-330 according to fibo
[2015-11-10 14:05:36] habibi : but who knows
[2015-11-10 14:06:06] Murch : Bouncy bouncy time?
[2015-11-10 14:06:26] kendang : habibi: what is fibo?
[2015-11-10 14:07:29] floopfloop : i didnt get in as cheap as I could have
[2015-11-10 14:07:30] floopfloop : but decent
[2015-11-10 14:07:36] habibi : Fibonacci retracement
[2015-11-10 14:07:43] floopfloop : think I might just sit on this until later tonight
[2015-11-10 14:08:38] Murch : Long at about 355
[2015-11-10 14:08:47] Murch : pretty satisfying action there.
[2015-11-10 14:09:33] floopfloop : well see 375 later today
[2015-11-10 14:09:52] TschavaTschigger : habibi: lol you believe in this fibonacci sorcery?
[2015-11-10 14:10:27] habibi : TschavaTschigger: i dont believe in ta that much, but if majority of people playing does, then it can happen :)
[2015-11-10 14:10:40] TschavaTschigger : true
[2015-11-10 14:16:42] Murch : Nvm, I'm outta that
[2015-11-10 14:17:07] Murch : Even if it does bounce here, that was sketch as fuck
[2015-11-10 14:18:39] Murch : Got class though cya guys
[2015-11-10 14:19:02] habibi : https://www.tradingview.com/x/4Ww4MmEJ/
[2015-11-10 14:24:39] habibi : here we go
[2015-11-10 14:26:35] mikeh : any problem with running multiple accounts here?
[2015-11-10 14:27:00] sleger : why do you need multiple accounts ?
[2015-11-10 14:27:02] kendang : mikeh: purpose?
[2015-11-10 14:27:16] jung1 : no but if you want to have more than one you have to register from here https://www.bitmex.com/register/CunK1W
[2015-11-10 14:27:24] mikeh : so i can have separate positions instead of averaged
[2015-11-10 14:27:33] floopfloop : jung1: that is not the right link
[2015-11-10 14:27:38] jung1 : yes it is
[2015-11-10 14:27:48] sleger : jung1: is that your referral link ?
[2015-11-10 14:27:56] floopfloop : mikeh: this is the correct link https://www.bitmex.com/register/NtA1QA
[2015-11-10 14:28:03] jung1 : propably
[2015-11-10 14:28:03] mikeh : lies!
[2015-11-10 14:28:12] floopfloop : mikeh: click on it, no joke
[2015-11-10 14:28:13] mikeh : maybe i'll refer myself :)
[2015-11-10 14:28:16] sleger : you guys are so small....
[2015-11-10 14:28:16] jung1 : but thats not the point of this disqusion
[2015-11-10 14:28:20] jung1 : feel free
[2015-11-10 14:28:26] floopfloop : https://www.bitmex.com/register/NtA1QA
[2015-11-10 14:28:27] floopfloop : https://www.bitmex.com/register/NtA1QA
[2015-11-10 14:28:27] floopfloop : https://www.bitmex.com/register/NtA1QA
[2015-11-10 14:28:28] floopfloop : https://www.bitmex.com/register/NtA1QA
[2015-11-10 14:28:28] floopfloop : https://www.bitmex.com/register/NtA1QA
[2015-11-10 14:28:46] floopfloop : my trollbox bot went beserk
[2015-11-10 14:28:57] jung1 : if you register from that link you will write on troll box in comic sans and your nick will be pink
[2015-11-10 14:29:10] jung1 : floopfloop: link
[2015-11-10 14:29:29] floopfloop : https://www.bitmex.com/register/NtA1QA if you register here, you get 0.25 btc
[2015-11-10 14:30:07] habibi : socialism welcome?
[2015-11-10 14:30:28] floopfloop : Bernie Sanders!
[2015-11-10 14:31:56] sleger : pooppoop: so lame...
[2015-11-10 14:32:02] jung1 : what a ride
[2015-11-10 14:32:16] floopfloop : Bernie is the best. He will win too
[2015-11-10 14:33:13] kendang : damn you partial fills. damn you.
[2015-11-10 14:33:19] habibi : interesing https://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/3s96j6/look_okcoin_millions_of_litecoins_dumped/
[2015-11-10 14:33:25] floopfloop : kendang: thats what she said
[2015-11-10 14:33:25] habibi : lol :p
[2015-11-10 14:33:33] kendang : rofl!
[2015-11-10 14:33:54] kendang : habibi: link is broken. can you shorten it with bit.ly or something?
[2015-11-10 14:34:25] habibi : http://bit.ly/1O1pC7V
[2015-11-10 14:34:37] kendang : habibi: cheers m
[2015-11-10 14:34:51] kendang : mate
[2015-11-10 14:35:35] habibi : http://i.imgur.com/XrXbMei.png
[2015-11-10 14:35:51] TschavaTschigger : seems legit lol
[2015-11-10 14:35:52] habibi : serious dmg to exchange but they will reverse it probally i think
[2015-11-10 14:36:25] kendang : that could never happen here on bitmex *cough* *cough*
[2015-11-10 14:38:33] TschavaTschigger : what a crazy day
[2015-11-10 14:38:34] TschavaTschigger : finally some action
[2015-11-10 14:38:41] TschavaTschigger : I like
[2015-11-10 14:41:11] BitMEX_Sam : That's insane habibi
[2015-11-10 14:41:26] kendang : hello BitMEX_Sam
[2015-11-10 14:41:49] floopfloop : Hide your wives and sell your children, @BitMEX_Sam is online
[2015-11-10 14:41:58] BitMEX_Sam : Morning guys.
[2015-11-10 14:42:21] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: imagine what feels admins of okc at that moment :p
[2015-11-10 14:43:03] floopfloop : sometimes you are going to get cut when you put your hands in okcoin
[2015-11-10 14:43:12] kendang : hahahah
[2015-11-10 14:43:23] habibi : funny thing is that there were two drops to 0.01
[2015-11-10 14:43:41] habibi : so after first one people thought oh i will set a fake buy :D
[2015-11-10 14:43:49] AbuAli : BitMEX_Sam: can you fix the PNL Calculator ? we cant select the text in the boxs to edit
[2015-11-10 14:45:26] BitMEX_Sam : AbuAli: Which browser?
[2015-11-10 14:45:50] AbuAli : BitMEX_Sam: firefox
[2015-11-10 14:49:15] gustavo7 : uh
[2015-11-10 14:53:13] mikeh : would be nice if when you click on the orderbook, just the price or amount is put into your order instead of both depending on the column
[2015-11-10 14:53:25] BitMEX_Sam : mikeh: Yes, been thinking the same would be very useful
[2015-11-10 14:53:34] kendang : yes, that would be good
[2015-11-10 14:55:57] Teddy76 : +1 ;)
[2015-11-10 14:56:02] Scottv53 : BitMEX_Sam: i endorse @mikeh suggestion...its a must.
[2015-11-10 14:56:21] BitMEX_Sam : Great - I've been wanting to do that for a while but didn't want to break expectations
[2015-11-10 14:56:29] BitMEX_Sam : Happy to change it.
[2015-11-10 14:56:59] mikeh : can always leave the total column for both price and qty
[2015-11-10 14:57:19] BitMEX_Sam : Smart
[2015-11-10 14:57:26] Scottv53 : It minimises "fat figure problems on any input device"
[2015-11-10 14:57:49] gustavo7 : oh oh
[2015-11-10 14:58:09] kendang : gustavo7: ?
[2015-11-10 14:58:59] gustavo7 : bought the dip but no rebound
[2015-11-10 14:59:14] gustavo7 : threefiddy here we come
[2015-11-10 15:00:50] Scottv53 : where's the bounce china?
[2015-11-10 15:01:09] kendang : no bounce. it's all downhill from here
[2015-11-10 15:03:28] Scottv53 : China give us 2350
[2015-11-10 15:03:37] gustavo7 : praise be i'm saved
[2015-11-10 15:16:18] kendang : BitMEX_Sam: will there be an option in the future to set my leverage manually?
[2015-11-10 15:16:41] BitMEX_Sam : kendang: Yes, we're working on that - in the meantime you can add margin to an existing position and effectively dial in your leverage
[2015-11-10 15:17:42] kendang : BitMEX_Sam: how do i do that?
[2015-11-10 15:17:59] BitMEX_Sam : kendang: If a position is isolated, you'll see a little +&btc; next to the Margin readout
[2015-11-10 15:18:07] BitMEX_Sam : Click that to add more margin to the position
[2015-11-10 15:18:15] kendang : i see. that's good!
[2015-11-10 15:18:29] mikeh : and remember that the default for your next order is now isolate, dangerous
[2015-11-10 15:20:33] mikeh : i'm referring to the isolate button, (assumed it was mentioned before).. if you toggle between them, even in the position list, that is your default for following orders, be careful
[2015-11-10 15:21:09] TschavaTschigger : mikeh: the button is not per-order, but per-position
[2015-11-10 15:21:20] stevelim : hi, tradingview chart not updating? XBT1D?
[2015-11-10 15:21:42] TschavaTschigger : which also makes sense.. but yeah, manually selecting leverage is important and i'm glad they are working on it :)
[2015-11-10 15:22:14] mikeh : yeah, just saying that if you click on it, your default order type is changed
[2015-11-10 15:22:27] stevelim : isiti a right symbol? XBT1D?
[2015-11-10 15:22:34] TschavaTschigger : mikeh: your whole position changed
[2015-11-10 15:23:44] mikeh : yes and next time you create a new position, it will be the same as what you just set - which shouldn't happen really
[2015-11-10 15:23:57] TschavaTschigger : mikeh: I know it's called "order options" but it's not correct, strictly speaking, since the isolate/crossmargin property is a property of your positiontype (24h, 7d)...
[2015-11-10 15:24:18] BitMEX_Sam : stevelim: It looks up to date here
[2015-11-10 15:24:30] BitMEX_Sam : They appear to have some sort of load balancing issue, depending on which server you get, it may or may not be up to date
[2015-11-10 15:24:39] TschavaTschigger : mikeh: it should happen and it makes sense. you change the leverage type of your position
[2015-11-10 15:25:26] BitMEX_Sam : Agreed that it should happen, it would be surprising if it didn't
[2015-11-10 15:25:30] mikeh : no what i'm saying is that when I click on isolate, I usually only want that position isolated.. now I create another one and assume it's on cross as it usually is but the default was changed
[2015-11-10 15:25:39] BitMEX_Sam : And if you intend to open small isolated positions and it switched you back to cross margin, you could lose much more margin than you intended
[2015-11-10 15:26:32] mikeh : i've been isolated a couple of times instantly because of it
[2015-11-10 15:26:38] mikeh : i mean liquidated!
[2015-11-10 15:27:27] TschavaTschigger : i think what @mikeh means that after CLOSING a position, leverage changes should be reverted.. but that doesn't make sense to me
[2015-11-10 15:27:33] stevelim : Thanks Sam
[2015-11-10 15:28:52] mikeh : yes it probably was after closing, but I'm only referring to when you change it from the position list, not from up top..
[2015-11-10 15:29:23] mikeh : if i change it there, it makes sense that it is intended for that position only
[2015-11-10 15:36:59] Scottv53 : mikeh: is there liquidity to trade 40000 contract in one executions/ trade?
[2015-11-10 15:37:12] habibi : users count and bots. Its new or i didnt saw it be4?
[2015-11-10 15:37:16] sleger : Scottv53: just look at the order book ?
[2015-11-10 15:38:30] mikeh : if you want to move the price $10-20
[2015-11-10 15:38:46] BitMEX_Sam : habibi: It's new
[2015-11-10 15:39:57] Scottv53 : just wanted to know frpm the experience trade on the bitmex if that number of contract can traded.
[2015-11-10 15:41:13] mikeh : i haven't been losing my money here for long, just started really
[2015-11-10 15:51:16] BitMEX_Sam : @everyone The orderbook changes you were talking about are now in
[2015-11-10 15:51:18] BitMEX_Sam : Please refresh to see them
[2015-11-10 15:51:59] mikeh : wow that was quick
[2015-11-10 15:52:15] kendang : nice
[2015-11-10 15:52:35] mikeh : did i mention i patented the idea
[2015-11-10 15:52:41] Yumi : Scottv53: You can effectively manage position of 40K size, just not sure about opening/closing it in one trade
[2015-11-10 15:55:14] Scottv53 : Yumi: thanks Yumi, have you tried trading 40K positions/
[2015-11-10 15:57:35] Yumi : Yea, you just gotta be a litle bit smart with it and not market close 40K contracts
[2015-11-10 16:01:18] habibi : dont market close any contracts
[2015-11-10 16:03:21] sleger : Scottv53: 40k is no problem, i have had much more, just not in one order !
[2015-11-10 16:03:27] gustavo7 : 2h ago i said it, 350
[2015-11-10 16:03:48] mikeh : tree fiddy
[2015-11-10 16:04:01] kendang : holy spread
[2015-11-10 16:04:02] kendang : !
[2015-11-10 16:05:19] kendang : gustavo7: did you make decent money on it?
[2015-11-10 16:06:01] gustavo7 : not much just hedging
[2015-11-10 16:07:03] gustavo7 : can't be too careful with this trend, don't wanna sell a temp bottom
[2015-11-10 16:07:20] gustavo7 : needs panic or pump
[2015-11-10 16:12:35] TschavaTschigger : buyers are superscared haha
[2015-11-10 16:14:54] aspa : So was I. This was the first time since I stopped speculating oil that I panicked. Completely forgot about the option to re-enable the isolate margin feature..
[2015-11-10 16:15:50] aspa : I hope that everybody I dumped into passed along the hot potato by now:)
[2015-11-10 16:16:33] TschavaTschigger : yeah it sucks that you have to switch to cross-margin when mark price is way off to trade. especially for non-bot-traders.. one typo and you are broke
[2015-11-10 16:16:45] TschavaTschigger : they are workin on manual levg though
[2015-11-10 16:17:08] BitMEX_Sam : TschavaTschigger: Yes, some improvements are coming to that
[2015-11-10 16:17:22] BitMEX_Sam : In general, mark price much more closely follows last price so these issues are less common
[2015-11-10 16:17:31] TschavaTschigger : true, I realized that
[2015-11-10 16:17:53] BitMEX_Sam : But you still have to be careful on the longer-dated futures, we use a hybrid system when liquidity is thin to prevent manipulation
[2015-11-10 16:20:27] aspa : TschavaTschigger: Indeed.
[2015-11-10 16:21:16] aspa : Well, at least I can say I cleared the order books here:)
[2015-11-10 16:21:50] aspa : It wasn't clean, but the panic dump didn't cost me that much
[2015-11-10 16:25:14] aspa : I was in a meeting and luckily I had okcoin open.. Saw shit hitting the fan without finex following and didn't think twice.. Click, click..
[2015-11-10 16:26:24] TschavaTschigger : lol
[2015-11-10 16:31:02] aspa : I think I should restrict my bitmex time to when I'm behind my desk at home.. More screens, less distractions..
[2015-11-10 16:31:34] aspa : BitMEX_Sam: your mobile site is too good:(
[2015-11-10 16:36:05] Scottv53 : sleger: does any one trade bitcoin on a full time 247 making a living out of it?
[2015-11-10 16:36:27] sleger : of course some do
[2015-11-10 16:36:43] sleger : some even make a living out of it not trading 24/7
[2015-11-10 16:36:47] j8 : BitMEX_Sam: `XBT7D` mark price is not updating. fair price is updating, mark price is not
[2015-11-10 16:37:32] BitMEX_Sam : j8: Looking into it
[2015-11-10 16:41:19] BitMEX_Sam : j8: It's moving again, thanks for letting us know
[2015-11-10 16:41:31] j8 : ok, looks good
[2015-11-10 16:56:50] Murch : BitMEX_Sam: Thanks for the update to orderbook control. All these little improvements actually make a huge difference to the quality of the trading experience.
[2015-11-10 16:58:23] Scottv53 : BitMEX_Sam: I endorse @Murch comment. much pleasant.
[2015-11-10 16:58:40] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Hey buddy. What changed with the orderbook control?
[2015-11-10 16:58:41] BitMEX_Sam : Glad to hear it.
[2015-11-10 16:58:55] BitMEX_Sam : We'll be doing more of these kinds of tweaks in the future.
[2015-11-10 16:59:25] BitMEX_Sam : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Clicking an individual size or price only updates the price or size in the order controls, not both
[2015-11-10 16:59:54] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Oh very nice. Thanks!
[2015-11-10 17:00:07] BitMEX_Sam : Clicking the cumulative still does both, like it used to.
[2015-11-10 17:00:48] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I like that, although I've been trying more not to open or close into the book and set my own orders
[2015-11-10 17:02:35] BitMEX_Sam : For sure. You can generally get a better price (plus 0 fee) if you are patient
[2015-11-10 17:02:38] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Oh hey man, yeah what he said :P
[2015-11-10 17:03:14] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Haha how's it going? Great call on those long term shorts btw
[2015-11-10 17:09:32] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Going alright, haha thanks man!
[2015-11-10 17:09:44] Murch : Now I just need to find a way to close my quarterly position
[2015-11-10 17:10:09] Murch : I have a short with a price basis at 517
[2015-11-10 17:10:42] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: Haha yeah the liquidity isn't great. Maybe try putting up a limit order around a price you'd be willing to accept and leaving it there. Someone will probably take it eventually
[2015-11-10 17:10:46] habibi : quaterly are decembers ones?
[2015-11-10 17:10:53] Murch : How are things faring on your end?
[2015-11-10 17:10:58] Murch : habibi: nope, march
[2015-11-10 17:11:27] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: yeah I got my limit orders a bit down, but these damn bids 30 above mark are pissing me off
[2015-11-10 17:11:37] AudibleScience : what happened today!?
[2015-11-10 17:12:05] habibi : just a normal day in bitcoin
[2015-11-10 17:12:32] AudibleScience : no...
[2015-11-10 17:12:46] AudibleScience : what happened to the premium
[2015-11-10 17:12:52] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : AudibleScience: OKCoin margin called a few giant long contract holders
[2015-11-10 17:12:52] habibi : bearish day
[2015-11-10 17:13:05] habibi : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: on btc? or ltc u saying?
[2015-11-10 17:13:24] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : BTC but I heard there was some craziness on LTC too
[2015-11-10 17:14:00] habibi : yea ltc get rekt
[2015-11-10 17:14:04] habibi : and okc as well probally :p
[2015-11-10 17:15:51] AudibleScience : the premium between okcoin and huobi and the rest of the world... it's down to like just -$3
[2015-11-10 17:16:28] habibi : ah, yea much bigger panic on chinese then west :p
[2015-11-10 17:19:21] TschavaTschigger : chinese have no balls... first they hype out but once a dump is near they shit their pants and chicken out
[2015-11-10 17:19:46] TschavaTschigger : let's show western balls and keep buying folks
[2015-11-10 17:21:31] AudibleScience : how come it dropped to less than 3 dollars though... that's a crazy drop in less that 8 hours! it was over $10 yesterday when I left... just crazy...
[2015-11-10 17:21:49] AudibleScience : *than
[2015-11-10 17:25:08] Murch : TschavaTschigger: believe me, finex is shitting right with China lol
[2015-11-10 17:27:32] Murch : Hmm, shorting this one
[2015-11-10 17:31:42] habibi : this is boring
[2015-11-10 17:31:46] habibi : up and down up and down
[2015-11-10 17:34:01] cekseh : Chop chop
[2015-11-10 17:35:43] Murch : power nap time
[2015-11-10 17:38:00] nickhnt : wow this chat is on fire today ;)
[2015-11-10 17:38:11] nickhnt : every 10 minutes theres a 100 msgs here
[2015-11-10 17:39:37] cekseh : That will die down over the next few days I think, as newcomers run out of equity and/or jump off of tall buildings
[2015-11-10 17:40:59] floopfloop : I vote jumping
[2015-11-10 17:41:14] Murch : The price looks like it's about to jump off a building
[2015-11-10 17:41:48] floopfloop : Your mom looks like she's about to jump off a building
[2015-11-10 17:41:54] floopfloop : Ohhhhhhhhhhh
[2015-11-10 17:42:06] nickhnt : lol
[2015-11-10 17:42:08] nickhnt : rekt
[2015-11-10 17:42:12] cekseh : Probably because murch is gambling with her SS check
[2015-11-10 17:42:34] floopfloop : Rekt is right
[2015-11-10 17:42:44] floopfloop : nickhnt: you play csgo?
[2015-11-10 17:42:46] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Damn, you guys don't hold back
[2015-11-10 17:43:15] nickhnt : floopfloop: nope, why?
[2015-11-10 17:43:17] Murch : lololol
[2015-11-10 17:43:30] floopfloop : Rekt is popular lingo
[2015-11-10 17:44:51] floopfloop : We should filter "bitch" to be "motherly figure"
[2015-11-10 17:44:57] cekseh : It also has some shiny new appeal to the cool kids that started trading in november
[2015-11-10 17:45:04] cekseh : =)
[2015-11-10 17:45:13] floopfloop : Then people could say your mom's a motherly figure
[2015-11-10 17:45:49] floopfloop : Or stop being such a motherly figure
[2015-11-10 17:46:21] floopfloop : Did you seee that fine motherly figure walking down the street?
[2015-11-10 17:46:45] floopfloop : That motherly figure had a huge rack
[2015-11-10 17:47:03] floopfloop : Yo, Jerry is such a motherly figure
[2015-11-10 17:47:29] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: This motherly figure on 1800flowers.com...
[2015-11-10 17:47:43] floopfloop : @Bitmex_wally what you think
[2015-11-10 17:48:00] floopfloop : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: omg the internet wins
[2015-11-10 17:48:37] floopfloop : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: can you get wally in on this. Im on my phone
[2015-11-10 17:49:12] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : floopfloop: He's not here right now
[2015-11-10 17:49:34] floopfloop : He wil still see it though
[2015-11-10 17:50:06] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : @BitMEX_Wally, floopfloop wants you
[2015-11-10 17:50:37] TschavaTschigger : in early afternoon, markets were fun... but now it's boring
[2015-11-10 17:50:40] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I have to go. Cya later
[2015-11-10 17:50:41] TschavaTschigger : I want chaos again
[2015-11-10 17:50:46] TschavaTschigger : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: cya < 3
[2015-11-10 17:50:57] floopfloop : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: veey much, 1800flowers.com style
[2015-11-10 17:53:43] cekseh : https://www.okcoin.com/future/futureTop.do?type=1&symbol=0
[2015-11-10 17:53:45] cekseh : lol.
[2015-11-10 18:10:22] habibi : Murch: IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb
[2015-11-10 18:10:28] habibi : where we going guys :)?
[2015-11-10 18:11:12] Murch : habibi: I've shorted but I've got class soon so my stop are ready.
[2015-11-10 18:11:29] Murch : is rather
[2015-11-10 18:12:25] habibi : yea i am on temp long, but gonna fly with wind if it will move any side
[2015-11-10 18:12:40] habibi : break any side*
[2015-11-10 18:16:49] cekseh : okc is heavily long.
[2015-11-10 18:17:50] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: can u exlude changing okcoin to woood.. in links?
[2015-11-10 18:18:08] habibi : lel
[2015-11-10 18:19:01] jung1 : damn that sellout of LTC on okcoin was awesome
[2015-11-10 18:19:13] jung1 : from 30CKY to 0.01CKY
[2015-11-10 18:19:49] cekseh : On no volume too, either a glitch or the book there is nonexistant
[2015-11-10 18:20:03] habibi : jung1: it was not a sellout itself
[2015-11-10 18:20:20] habibi : possibly margin cascade get wrong in trade engine
[2015-11-10 18:21:07] habibi : on great volume tho http://i.imgur.com/XrXbMei.png
[2015-11-10 18:34:57] justinlooking : XBTH15 dpe back to zero?
[2015-11-10 18:40:56] justinlooking : *H16
[2015-11-10 18:41:49] justinlooking : i thought it was instrument.indicativeTaxRate
[2015-11-10 18:42:26] justinlooking : but my account still showing same withheld profit
[2015-11-10 18:43:16] j8 : justinlooking: withheld profit is what the tax rate would be applied to. it doesn't clear until friday
[2015-11-10 18:44:49] cekseh : Habibi, you know that you that chart is inaccurate right?
[2015-11-10 18:45:08] cekseh : If you look closely you might notice something is amiss.
[2015-11-10 18:45:16] justinlooking : oh ok, thanks j8, i shall wait for the rebalance of my flat position :S
[2015-11-10 18:45:34] cekseh : Their trading engine farted, volume was shit
[2015-11-10 18:46:04] habibi : cekseh: what exacly is missed?
[2015-11-10 18:46:19] cekseh : open that link you pasted in here a few minutes ago and look
[2015-11-10 18:46:20] cekseh : I'll wait
[2015-11-10 18:47:29] j8 : justinlooking: yep, just hope 0 DPE lasts until friday
[2015-11-10 18:48:03] habibi : cekseh: double same pattern of vol?
[2015-11-10 18:51:19] habibi : cekseh: http://scr.hu/9xvi/9oft2
[2015-11-10 18:53:20] cekseh : So their internal bots went amuck, and they froze/reverse trades of anyone that took advantage of it
[2015-11-10 18:53:25] cekseh : oops
[2015-11-10 18:53:26] cekseh : =)
[2015-11-10 18:54:00] habibi : yep, if there were no significiant volume then its fine :)
[2015-11-10 18:54:14] habibi : otherwise.. stil fine :p just no new milioners;p
[2015-11-10 18:54:53] cekseh : Except for the fellow on whaleclub last night that manage to buy at 1.23cny, convert to bitcoin and withdraw before okc could freeze his account
[2015-11-10 18:54:54] cekseh : =)
[2015-11-10 18:56:52] cekseh : okc.com/future/futureTop.do?type=1&symbol=0
[2015-11-10 18:57:00] cekseh : Whole lots longs to call right now
[2015-11-10 18:57:26] cekseh : 46% long to 26% short
[2015-11-10 18:57:44] cekseh : mm still largely short
[2015-11-10 18:59:11] cekseh : I'm thinking sub 340 before 360
[2015-11-10 19:00:40] habibi : cekseh: how much he took?
[2015-11-10 19:01:41] cekseh : relatively small amount, claimed to net 52 btc profit then emptied his okcoin account
[2015-11-10 19:01:55] cekseh : couple minutes later they froze it, probably to reverse transactions
[2015-11-10 19:02:07] cekseh : too late bitches, cant reverse bitcoin transaction.
[2015-11-10 19:03:05] kendang : wasn't there a case where bitcoin transactions were reversed? i think i read about it a couple years ago when a big bitcoin theft was going on,.
[2015-11-10 19:03:17] kendang : somehow they did it
[2015-11-10 19:03:29] kendang : or maybe they tracked down the guy and hacked him too
[2015-11-10 19:03:34] kendang : dont remember
[2015-11-10 19:04:26] habibi : dont know, if they were they were done in hardfork
[2015-11-10 19:04:34] cekseh : probably talking about emergency hard fork, when someone duped billions of bitcoins years back
[2015-11-10 19:04:51] habibi : ah yea someone add bilions of btc to network right?
[2015-11-10 19:06:18] habibi : hobi ddosed again
[2015-11-10 19:06:48] habibi : so little pump until its back online
[2015-11-10 19:06:54] kendang : habibi: what do they gain? extortion? manipulation of price?
[2015-11-10 19:07:26] habibi : i dont know, i just see a patern that most times hobi get dossed price on okcoin goes up a bit
[2015-11-10 19:27:02] SnackyCoins : houbi and okc share books
[2015-11-10 19:27:35] SnackyCoins : houbi being ddosed means less orders being taken out of okc
[2015-11-10 19:27:46] SnackyCoins : it could go either way really
[2015-11-10 19:28:04] kendang : let's hope it goes down again.
[2015-11-10 19:28:08] SnackyCoins : iirc btcchina is in that group too
[2015-11-10 19:28:13] kendang : *fingers-crossed*
[2015-11-10 19:28:15] SnackyCoins : its just gonna correct when it comes back up
[2015-11-10 19:28:50] SnackyCoins : its called remarketing and bitfinex does it too, its not strange & happens all the time on "normal" brokers
[2015-11-10 19:29:19] SnackyCoins : though dunno if they have the liquidity to do that as much anymore 8)
[2015-11-10 19:32:36] habibi : bitfinex does it with stamp?
[2015-11-10 19:32:41] habibi : or others?
[2015-11-10 19:33:01] kendang : what does that mean "remarketing"ß
[2015-11-10 19:33:28] SnackyCoins : that is where an exchange allows other exchanges to fill orders from it's book
[2015-11-10 19:33:53] kendang : SnackyCoins: i see thanks
[2015-11-10 19:34:29] kendang : someone is screwing a lady in the apartment above me. i am jealous. it's been a long time ...
[2015-11-10 19:35:12] kendang : squeaky bed
[2015-11-10 19:35:43] habibi : go and ask if they dont mind if u join them or just sit in corner with laptop and watch...
[2015-11-10 19:35:46] kendang : they're going hard at it
[2015-11-10 19:36:14] kendang : habibi: maybe i should live stream it to you guys then
[2015-11-10 19:36:50] habibi : would be fun :)
[2015-11-10 19:37:09] kendang : seems like they're done. lasted about 3 minutes
[2015-11-10 19:37:34] kendang : no wrong. they're still shagging
[2015-11-10 19:38:00] kendang : walls here are thin. i've become a ninja masturbator.
[2015-11-10 19:42:37] dynamike23 : does anyone know how to submit orders on the testnet? do I need to actually deposit some BTC?
[2015-11-10 19:43:09] cekseh : What exactly is a ninja masturbator
[2015-11-10 19:43:38] kendang : cekseh: someone who masturbates really really quietly
[2015-11-10 19:54:46] justinlooking : dynamike23: yes u need to deposit testnet btc. search for testnet faucets and paste your deposit address
[2015-11-10 19:54:58] justinlooking : *in2 them
[2015-11-10 20:04:33] dynamike23 : justinlooking: thanks, thats what i was looking for
[2015-11-10 20:32:43] micmix : BitMEX_Sam, are you there?
[2015-11-10 20:33:46] TschavaTschigger : its going down.. who the fukk is buying 8k?
[2015-11-10 20:35:20] micmix : TschavaTschigger: what contract? I'm buying a bit of XBTZ15
[2015-11-10 20:35:56] Murch : Now 2300 is aids
[2015-11-10 20:36:31] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: What's up?
[2015-11-10 20:36:49] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I noticed that. This is super choppy though. Idk where it's going
[2015-11-10 20:37:16] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Usually this direct sideways after a drop means more of a drop. I'm still short on this crap.
[2015-11-10 20:37:35] kendang : Murch: me too
[2015-11-10 20:37:57] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I'm guessing short too but OKCoin seems to want to do some woodchopping and since they shook out the longers it might be the shorters turn next
[2015-11-10 20:38:13] micmix : BitMEX_Sam: Hi Sam! The cancel API is a bit inconsistent. When I cancel multiple orders and those orders are already filled, I get 2xx and error object with a message saying that the order was not found, already filled or already canceled
[2015-11-10 20:39:02] Murch : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: Yeah I guess I just see short as a better chance of success right now the way the price is behaving.
[2015-11-10 20:39:18] micmix : When I cancel one order that's already canceled or filled I get 404 and a message saying simply not found.
[2015-11-10 20:39:21] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Murch: I think you're very likely right about that
[2015-11-10 20:39:59] Murch : Haha thanks, I hope so. :P
[2015-11-10 20:40:02] micmix : I spent 30 minutes trying to figure out why it says not found, thinking I'm submitting wrong order id :-)
[2015-11-10 20:41:14] micmix : and related to that, sorry for pounding the API with cancel request for an hour :-)
[2015-11-10 20:47:00] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Right, the issue is that there isn't a code in the HTTP spec for a partial success
[2015-11-10 20:47:20] BitMEX_Sam : We return a 200 if at least one of the cancel requests actually worked
[2015-11-10 20:48:07] BitMEX_Sam : There's `207` but that's WebDAV... hoping someday they extend the spec
[2015-11-10 20:49:17] micmix : Yes, I understand, what tripped me up is a different error message. For single cancel: { error: { message: 'Not Found', name: 'HTTPError' } }
[2015-11-10 20:49:37] btctrader : hello everyone
[2015-11-10 20:49:47] kendang : btctrader: hello
[2015-11-10 20:50:09] btctrader : is there an equation how to calulate liquadtion price of a x100 position
[2015-11-10 20:50:10] btctrader : ?
[2015-11-10 20:50:41] justinlooking : btctrader: there is calculator in order controls, if you press order options dropdown
[2015-11-10 20:50:42] Murch : I think you just move down .5% from your entry price right?
[2015-11-10 20:50:42] micmix : For multiple cancels it says something like Not found, already canceled or filled (don't have it right now)
[2015-11-10 20:50:56] BitMEX_Sam : micmix: Sure, but if all of the multiple cancels fail, it should return a normal 404
[2015-11-10 20:51:02] BitMEX_Sam : If it's not doing that, then there's a bug
[2015-11-10 20:52:51] btctrader : but i wanna use only 20% of my money
[2015-11-10 20:53:03] btctrader : sell cost = 20%
[2015-11-10 20:53:19] btctrader : how do i calulate the exact liquadation price