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BitMEX disabled their archive after the DDOS attack so I have decided to make my mirror publicly available.

Well now, a few days after I made this mirror available to the public, the original archive from BitMEX is online again.
But since it is still limited (neutered to the last few hundred messages) I will keep my FULL mirror alive.

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[2017-02-12 16:07:09] Papou : err two keys
[2017-02-12 16:07:26] YOLOCOIN : nug baot
[2017-02-12 16:08:45] j8 : Papou: you can add a PGP key and encrypt all emails, then that's your second key
[2017-02-12 16:09:23] Farzad : what happened to ETC7D ?
[2017-02-12 16:09:30] Farzad : orderbook almost empty !
[2017-02-12 16:10:16] Farzad : someone sold all order book !
[2017-02-12 16:14:37] -_- : The only hope ETC had was China. Looks less likely China will be adopting ETC
[2017-02-12 16:15:47] rapidtrades : anyone done research into sports betting
[2017-02-12 16:16:25] mahouni : bitfinex dumping?
[2017-02-12 16:16:55] mahouni : rapidtrades: what kind of research?
[2017-02-12 16:16:59] mahouni : Ive done some
[2017-02-12 16:17:19] y1uy : we will see 980 in bitfinex soon
[2017-02-12 16:17:30] rapidtrades : u know finding edges @mahouni
[2017-02-12 16:19:14] sleger : sports betting is harder than bitcoin trading
[2017-02-12 16:19:27] sleger : not many unknown edges
[2017-02-12 16:19:36] sleger : already many bots arbing places
[2017-02-12 16:19:47] y1uy : u can do matched betting rapid
[2017-02-12 16:19:49] mahouni : rapidtrades: I think theres a chance if you have good intuition and trading knowledge and can make up an "Volatility measure" that measures the volatility e.g unexpectedness of the results and place bets based on that.
[2017-02-12 16:19:57] y1uy : i used to do it, very easy
[2017-02-12 16:20:02] y1uy : risk free too
[2017-02-12 16:21:43] mahouni : Thats one clean way to find an edge but I dont do it because im not sure its worth the effort
[2017-02-12 16:22:19] rapidtrades : y1uy: what's matched betting
[2017-02-12 16:22:28] mahouni : Arbitrage
[2017-02-12 16:22:34] y1uy : rapidtrades: google it
[2017-02-12 16:22:41] y1uy : u take advantages of free bets
[2017-02-12 16:22:47] rapidtrades : ah no
[2017-02-12 16:23:14] rapidtrades : u have to ID and not worth it for 20e or whatever
[2017-02-12 16:23:31] mahouni : Lol not worth while unless you can have a team find a niche and get first coupons from bookies (like shops)
[2017-02-12 16:26:03] mahouni : also problem online will be that shops will limit you out if you become a winner. Had that happen to me
[2017-02-12 16:26:30] mahouni : Is there any active bitcoin betting shops? Nitrogensports i know
[2017-02-12 16:29:11] rapidtrades : idk but skrill recently has bitcoin deposits for 1% fee
[2017-02-12 16:29:24] rapidtrades : and u can use skrill for anything gambling related
[2017-02-12 16:29:49] rapidtrades : also problem for those free offers is most require a card
[2017-02-12 16:30:10] mahouni : You mean Bonuses?
[2017-02-12 16:30:10] rapidtrades : and lot of the cards block gambling sites
[2017-02-12 16:31:42] mahouni : No skrill is definitely enough but all of them ID you heavily, like you cant withdraw before your postal address is verified by code sent to your address and stuff
[2017-02-12 16:33:31] rapidtrades : well that sucks
[2017-02-12 16:33:50] mahouni : I once made some profit by creating multiple high bonus accounts and cross betting and concentrating them on one account. Picking high return and bets where odds were going to be adjusted after
[2017-02-12 16:35:02] mahouni : But I dont know if I would recommend that because the shit you have to go through to get an account anymore is too much imo
[2017-02-12 16:36:52] VenCap : Shorts gonig to pay longs again right? Funding? its Minus "-"
[2017-02-12 16:37:21] MikeHunt : 1k bounced or dead cat?
[2017-02-12 16:38:21] Sinterklaas : BTC IS NO DEAD CAT
[2017-02-12 16:38:31] Papou : there was a big cny dump few hours ago and price held
[2017-02-12 16:38:33] Sinterklaas : can't say BTC is a dead cat
[2017-02-12 16:38:36] Papou : not good for whoever sold
[2017-02-12 16:38:39] Sinterklaas : ;)
[2017-02-12 16:38:42] Papou : good show of reversal
[2017-02-12 16:39:26] y1uy : i hope you guys have parachutes ready
[2017-02-12 16:41:12] Sinterklaas : y1uy: why? you gonna jump?
[2017-02-12 16:41:25] y1uy : Sinterklaas: plane will crash
[2017-02-12 16:42:07] -_- : I'm ready for a 5% or more move so i can fomo in the direction
[2017-02-12 16:42:10] Sinterklaas : nope it wont
[2017-02-12 16:46:10] MadDog : Church was great this morning. How did your services go?
[2017-02-12 16:47:01] KyllingLolsson : This looks like its gonna be a huge dump
[2017-02-12 16:47:22] KyllingLolsson : The more sideways the bigger dump
[2017-02-12 16:47:48] Rado : KyllingLolsson: you might be confused looking at your toilet bowl
[2017-02-12 16:48:14] Ahhere : Whoever trying to keep is under 1k is spending a lot of money.lol
[2017-02-12 16:48:45] KyllingLolsson : Raughing @Rado
[2017-02-12 16:50:11] rullwull : okc quarterly are waking up, 5,5K buy order
[2017-02-12 16:50:21] y1uy : KyllingLolsson: +1
[2017-02-12 16:53:29] -_- : someone dumped 11,000 contracts on okc quarterly just now
[2017-02-12 16:54:40] rullwull : yeah, that order was filled
[2017-02-12 16:55:32] Derreck : xbth17 not feeling well
[2017-02-12 16:56:37] y1uy : logns are starting to dump
[2017-02-12 16:56:47] y1uy : on okc
[2017-02-12 16:57:13] Sinterklaas : sorry guys stupid question; why is the price different between XBTUSD and XBTH17
[2017-02-12 16:57:39] Sinterklaas : BTC is BTC i would say
[2017-02-12 16:57:44] rapidtrades : because most newbs trade on swap and they're bullish and dumb
[2017-02-12 16:59:51] Sinterklaas : y1uy: youre full of shit man, bearboy
[2017-02-12 16:59:57] douglascofferi : I'm newbie, what do you guys tell me to start on bitmex?
[2017-02-12 17:00:38] rullwull : swap is good to earn funding fee
[2017-02-12 17:01:46] rullwull : douglascofferi: 100X all in
[2017-02-12 17:02:41] douglascofferi : Tutorial, video or explanatory class? please <3
[2017-02-12 17:03:03] MadDog : Someone anonymously sent money to my Bittrex accout. Mad Dog is back in
[2017-02-12 17:03:43] rullwull : MadDog: jesus
[2017-02-12 17:03:50] MadDog : Right
[2017-02-12 17:03:59] -_- : Reputable individuals at the Satoshi Roundtable #bitcoin event are saying there will be more Satoshi Nakamoto news in the next week or two..
[2017-02-12 17:05:08] y1uy : -_-: source?
[2017-02-12 17:05:14] y1uy : more confirmations we going down
[2017-02-12 17:05:20] -_- : https://twitter.com/CollinCrypto/status/825052230504022016
[2017-02-12 17:05:24] rullwull : -_-: satoshi was jesus in previous life?
[2017-02-12 17:05:54] y1uy : ty
[2017-02-12 17:06:04] y1uy : prob some new craig wright bullshiet
[2017-02-12 17:06:11] -_- : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Steven_Wright
[2017-02-12 17:06:52] VenCap : Good luck guys. i am going super bull... only pussies go short right nown
[2017-02-12 17:07:31] Rado : VenCap: that's the way
[2017-02-12 17:07:54] rullwull : rapidtrades: VenCap calls u pussie
[2017-02-12 17:08:28] rapidtrades : https://btc-e.com/bets
[2017-02-12 17:08:41] rapidtrades : go here newbs ^^^
[2017-02-12 17:08:47] -_- : i want to
[2017-02-12 17:09:05] MikeHunt : lol of course we go down...
[2017-02-12 17:09:10] MikeHunt : u think u can escape choyna?
[2017-02-12 17:09:10] Ahhere : Wow someone wants down real bad
[2017-02-12 17:09:11] MikeHunt : http://i.imgur.com/wee4t6L.png
[2017-02-12 17:09:51] y1uy : dumping down
[2017-02-12 17:10:03] y1uy : MikeHunt: :D
[2017-02-12 17:10:57] rapidtrades : coinbase will still be quoting 1013 when we fall to 980
[2017-02-12 17:11:23] mahouni : tomorrow will be interesting
[2017-02-12 17:12:55] MikeHunt : i wonder if the IRS coinbase thing could be a future blackswan
[2017-02-12 17:13:02] Sultan Pepper : My dog just took a dump. Sign or nah?
[2017-02-12 17:13:10] MikeHunt : Sultan Pepper: on carpet?
[2017-02-12 17:13:16] Sultan Pepper : Outside
[2017-02-12 17:13:33] MikeHunt : Sultan Pepper: u gonna clear it up?
[2017-02-12 17:13:36] -_- : yeah man coinbase + IRS = recipe for disaster
[2017-02-12 17:13:47] Sultan Pepper : mikehunt: yeah I picked it up
[2017-02-12 17:14:01] MikeHunt : Sultan Pepper: do you enjoy picking up shit?
[2017-02-12 17:14:09] -_- : barehanded?
[2017-02-12 17:14:26] Sultan Pepper : Mikehunt: nope, but its my doodie
[2017-02-12 17:14:40] douglascofferi : If I buy a contract worth 100 bitcoins for just one bitcoin. And the price rise 5%, so I earn 5 bitcoins or a 500% return on the original capital. However, if the price drops 1% I lose 100%?
[2017-02-12 17:14:46] Ahhere : One reason not to get a dog
[2017-02-12 17:14:57] MikeHunt : -_-: i'd expect them to investigate every US customer's taxes after they get info, but they may send info to other countries enforcement agencies, that would cause uber dump me thinks
[2017-02-12 17:15:07] MikeHunt : Sultan Pepper: why have dog if no like picking up shit?
[2017-02-12 17:15:27] MikeHunt : douglascofferi: divide RoE by leverage to get actual RoE
[2017-02-12 17:15:45] Sinterklaas : douglascofferi: yes
[2017-02-12 17:15:45] -_- : douglascofferi: if you are going 100x with 1 BTC you will get margin called before 1% drop
[2017-02-12 17:15:45] Sultan Pepper : Mikehunt: pros outweighs the cons for me. And we'll have a yard soon, so no worries
[2017-02-12 17:15:57] Ahhere : MikeHunt: people not more likely to sell if historical data released to tax enforcement.
[2017-02-12 17:16:03] carl : I don't like filling up gas, why buy a car?
[2017-02-12 17:16:04] douglascofferi : sorry, but what is RoE ?
[2017-02-12 17:16:05] Ahhere : selling = tax
[2017-02-12 17:16:19] MikeHunt : Sultan Pepper: maybe train it to be more like cat
[2017-02-12 17:16:39] Sultan Pepper : That's even worse
[2017-02-12 17:16:48] MikeHunt : Ahhere: might cause XMR pump
[2017-02-12 17:16:57] MikeHunt : carl: go Tesla
[2017-02-12 17:17:01] Ahhere : MikeHunt: damn str8
[2017-02-12 17:17:04] Sultan Pepper : i could stop feeding it though. No food=no poop
[2017-02-12 17:17:12] Ahhere : MikeHunt: u got tesla?
[2017-02-12 17:17:17] carl : I don't like the way my toilet flushes, should I burn down my house?
[2017-02-12 17:17:35] Sultan Pepper : carl: just poop like a cat
[2017-02-12 17:17:36] carl : Sometimes my girlfriend sleeps in too late, should I dump her?
[2017-02-12 17:17:37] MikeHunt : douglascofferi: basically ur profit
[2017-02-12 17:17:42] MikeHunt : on current position
[2017-02-12 17:17:47] MikeHunt : Ahhere: nope, too poor
[2017-02-12 17:17:53] douglascofferi : -_-: @Sinterklaas thx In that case, as soon as I raise 5% I already make the profit?
[2017-02-12 17:18:07] Ahhere : carl: where u going with these analogies
[2017-02-12 17:18:15] MikeHunt : carl: dump on her then she wake up earl
[2017-02-12 17:18:16] MikeHunt : y
[2017-02-12 17:18:57] -_- : douglascofferi: you make profit as soon as the price is higher. but you gotta close above where you entered and take into account fees which can eat 0.01 or 0.02 from profit. so if you close right after price went up a little bit you may still lose money due to fees
[2017-02-12 17:18:57] Sinterklaas : douglascofferi: you already have a profit at 1%+
[2017-02-12 17:19:14] MikeHunt : -_-: use limit orders to get rid of fees
[2017-02-12 17:19:44] MikeHunt : if this dumps i might get first ADL
[2017-02-12 17:19:55] carl : Mike asked why have a dog when it shits
[2017-02-12 17:20:05] Papou : limit orders to get rid of fees?
[2017-02-12 17:20:06] Papou : huh?
[2017-02-12 17:20:11] MikeHunt : carl: shit aint problem, its where it shits is problem
[2017-02-12 17:20:17] Nutella : is we going downward?
[2017-02-12 17:20:20] MikeHunt : Papou: limit order = maker fees
[2017-02-12 17:20:32] MikeHunt : -0.025%
[2017-02-12 17:21:01] Nutella : im so confuzed
[2017-02-12 17:21:16] MikeHunt : Nutella: u gambling here?
[2017-02-12 17:21:37] Nutella : no i hear to make many
[2017-02-12 17:22:14] Yuppie : zero activity right now...
[2017-02-12 17:22:49] sleger : Nutella: who did you hear makes money ?
[2017-02-12 17:23:21] Nutella : noone makes many here, all poor
[2017-02-12 17:23:21] Papou : what are the fees otherwise?
[2017-02-12 17:25:20] MikeHunt : Papou: 0.075%
[2017-02-12 17:25:23] MikeHunt : taker
[2017-02-12 17:30:50] Papou : so market sells are higher fees?
[2017-02-12 17:33:14] Ahhere : Yuppie: finex big volume sells attempted manipulation being munched up
[2017-02-12 17:33:52] -_- : people make money. just look at the leaderboard https://www.bitmex.com/app/leaderboard
[2017-02-12 17:34:21] Sultan Pepper : Face: that's where all my money goes
[2017-02-12 17:34:41] -_- : yes Papou
[2017-02-12 17:34:49] BTCDJS : Nutella: 80% of people on this site lose money and only 20% make money. That is the biggest secret everybody knows but never says out loud. 80% give their money to the 20%
[2017-02-12 17:34:56] -_- : use limit if possible to save $$$
[2017-02-12 17:35:27] -_- : all right i'm joining the short train
[2017-02-12 17:35:39] -_- : choochoo to gobble town
[2017-02-12 17:36:39] Ahhere : -_-: i see that short @ 1000 affected ur profit?
[2017-02-12 17:36:58] -_- : i barely went down
[2017-02-12 17:37:30] -_- : didnt trade much although price did move $35 up and down
[2017-02-12 17:37:38] -_- : still was recovering from staying awake for 2 days
[2017-02-12 17:38:44] Ahhere : Thats why people keep it private, so fuckers like me don't bring up such things! @-_-
[2017-02-12 17:39:31] -_- : i should have just shorted at 1000 on xbth17 and be happy right now
[2017-02-12 17:39:57] -_- : i just gotta wait for the next obvious move
[2017-02-12 17:40:21] -_- : Ahhere: i wanna keep it not private so i can brag more i get to #5
[2017-02-12 17:40:46] Ahhere : -_-: fwiw mine's not private lol
[2017-02-12 17:42:40] rullwull : -_-: or go long at 950
[2017-02-12 17:45:45] Ahhere : -_-: how long u trading here?
[2017-02-12 17:46:33] -_- : since Aug 2015
[2017-02-12 17:46:42] -_- : august
[2017-02-12 17:47:02] Ahhere : i just joined in beginning jan
[2017-02-12 17:47:18] Ahhere : this yr
[2017-02-12 17:48:22] Ahhere : but trading a few years forex and crypto 2 years
[2017-02-12 17:50:15] Cromage : Hi all, who can explain me the limit and risks of 100x leverage? For example if I deposit 1 BTC=1000$, can I make a long of 0.5=500$ with 100x leverage?
[2017-02-12 17:50:46] -_- : yes you pick the # of contracts you want to buy or sell
[2017-02-12 17:50:52] -_- : long / short
[2017-02-12 17:53:59] Cromage : so with 100x leverage is not a problem if I pick contracts that value half of my total account?
[2017-02-12 17:54:47] -_- : right. as long as you are not on Cross and pick 100x then you'll be fine
[2017-02-12 17:56:02] Cromage : sorry but I don't understand, what do you mean with on cross? thanks for your help
[2017-02-12 18:01:11] Dynamix : BTC Going up to new highs every monday ;)
[2017-02-12 18:01:24] sleger : like jesus, he was on a cross, wasnt good for him
[2017-02-12 18:02:04] Cromage : ahahah
[2017-02-12 18:02:08] thomaskikansha : you can rip your account with cross margin
[2017-02-12 18:03:24] Nooby : Cromage: send me 1 btc i will show you :P
[2017-02-12 18:03:59] Cromage : no xD
[2017-02-12 18:04:06] Nooby : just kidding, be careful with leverage, specially with 100!!! cross is better to begin
[2017-02-12 18:04:17] ThruTheFloor : why
[2017-02-12 18:04:51] Nooby : lol try and you will understand by yourself
[2017-02-12 18:05:10] Sultan Pepper : It gives you a lower liq. price, but it will drain your whole account if you hit it
[2017-02-12 18:05:15] Nooby : you can earn more but you can loose fast and much more!!
[2017-02-12 18:05:39] Cromage : Is there a paper trading of this site?
[2017-02-12 18:05:50] Nooby : evrything is explained
[2017-02-12 18:06:02] Sultan Pepper : Testnet.bitmex
[2017-02-12 18:06:05] ThruTheFloor : Don't you lose everything hitting liq price with a high leverage anyway
[2017-02-12 18:06:06] Sultan Pepper : try that
[2017-02-12 18:06:07] Nooby : yes
[2017-02-12 18:06:31] Dynamix : we going up
[2017-02-12 18:06:32] Dynamix : ;)
[2017-02-12 18:06:35] Dynamix : real soon
[2017-02-12 18:06:37] Dynamix : :)
[2017-02-12 18:06:54] Nooby : if you buy at 900, with leverage your liq price will be 850, without leverage it will be 650 for example
[2017-02-12 18:06:54] Cromage : I saw https://testnet.bitmex.com/ but I need to deposit O.o this is not papertrading xD
[2017-02-12 18:06:55] Dynamix : 1010 testing again
[2017-02-12 18:06:59] Sultan Pepper : if you use 10% of your account for a 100x and get called, you will lose 10% of your account
[2017-02-12 18:07:25] Sultan Pepper : Cromage: find a faucet for test coins
[2017-02-12 18:07:33] Sultan Pepper : they are listed
[2017-02-12 18:07:35] MikeHunt : on bitmex everyone time it drops u see very small 0.xxx purchases at higher prices as if they are trying to keep it up
[2017-02-12 18:07:43] MikeHunt : bitstamp*
[2017-02-12 18:07:54] Sultan Pepper : i recommend you add the same amount as your real account
[2017-02-12 18:08:00] Nooby : lol no more pump guys, game over
[2017-02-12 18:08:01] Dynamix : Sultan Pepper: 100x is risky
[2017-02-12 18:08:08] Sultan Pepper : yes
[2017-02-12 18:08:29] Dynamix : atm it is trading right in between resistance and support
[2017-02-12 18:08:35] Sultan Pepper : my first move ever was 100x. It was also my last 100x
[2017-02-12 18:08:44] Sinterklaas : Sultan Pepper: haha
[2017-02-12 18:08:46] Cromage : why?
[2017-02-12 18:09:04] Sultan Pepper : Straight to bone zone
[2017-02-12 18:09:28] Sultan Pepper : 100x is 0 or hero, with 0 being the likely outcome
[2017-02-12 18:09:33] Sinterklaas : Sultan Pepper: me too: made 14BTC in one hour and lost it the next+my 0riginal 5 btc
[2017-02-12 18:09:49] Sultan Pepper : Sinterklaas: daaaang
[2017-02-12 18:09:51] Nooby : if you really want to figure out how it is to be on leverage 100 and be REKT, you can send me your bitcoin and you will feel the same as when you are REKT lol
[2017-02-12 18:10:09] thomaskikansha : the fee is huge also
[2017-02-12 18:10:16] Sinterklaas : i thought i was the new wolf of wall street, already order my Boat and Helicopter.. @Sultan Pepper
[2017-02-12 18:10:27] Sultan Pepper : But really, go 100x on testnet and pretend it's real money. You'll see
[2017-02-12 18:10:39] ThruTheFloor : testnet?
[2017-02-12 18:10:48] Cromage : on testnet i can't trade, they need a deposit
[2017-02-12 18:11:05] Sultan Pepper : testnet.bitmex.com they list faucets to start test coins from
[2017-02-12 18:11:10] Nooby : try faucet to get some satoshi
[2017-02-12 18:11:48] Nooby : or you can send me some dollars through paypal 100$ for 10 satoshis LOL
[2017-02-12 18:14:07] Sultan Pepper : Deposit here: 3BMEXnzCNPhQrQjDrv6YpmSefTMWShpZYB to simulate the 100x leverage rekt outcome
[2017-02-12 18:14:26] Sultan Pepper : but really, don't do that
[2017-02-12 18:14:37] -_- : testnet deposit page has 3 links for faucets
[2017-02-12 18:14:50] -_- : go to the faucet website and enter your testnet address
[2017-02-12 18:15:02] -_- : wait a minute and you'll have btc
[2017-02-12 18:16:13] rullwull : another huge buy order at okc quarterly
[2017-02-12 18:16:56] -_- : no rullwull
[2017-02-12 18:17:01] Nutella : noone here has many, all poors
[2017-02-12 18:17:02] -_- : you are wrong
[2017-02-12 18:17:10] Sinterklaas : rullwull: stop rulwull stop
[2017-02-12 18:17:42] -_- : oh rullwull you mean buy wall
[2017-02-12 18:17:55] -_- : 9,034
[2017-02-12 18:18:02] rullwull : -_-: yeah
[2017-02-12 18:18:04] Ahhere : yes there is a 9034 wall sitting there ladies
[2017-02-12 18:18:25] rullwull : 10K already filled
[2017-02-12 18:18:30] rullwull : its another 10K
[2017-02-12 18:18:54] Ahhere : with about 7k 15 dollars lower
[2017-02-12 18:19:07] Ahhere : wall
[2017-02-12 18:21:20] -_- : ETH, XMR, LTC are the 3 I'm watching for a pump if BTC isn't going to pump while China withdraws are disabled
[2017-02-12 18:22:33] Ahhere : -_-: i have all 3 except the last which I gave up on. Segwit i guess legitmizes it.
[2017-02-12 18:22:42] MikeHunt : if its not above 1014 on bitstamp by noon tomoz i'd expect a dump
[2017-02-12 18:23:26] -_- : I'm giving segwit about 10 more days to increase their percentage a lot for LTC. hopefully the pools get everything updated and almost every block is signaling soon
[2017-02-12 18:24:30] rapidtrades : hahaha ppl are already manipulating the btce price to win betting
[2017-02-12 18:25:04] Sultan Pepper : Anyone else here an old Bimmer fan?
[2017-02-12 18:25:15] Ahhere : Sultan Pepper: i have old mercs
[2017-02-12 18:25:23] Sultan Pepper : Just as cool
[2017-02-12 18:25:24] rullwull : i have lots of LTC purchased at 16CNY
[2017-02-12 18:25:31] Ahhere : love early 3 series tho
[2017-02-12 18:25:47] Sultan Pepper : i've always been a saloon guy myself
[2017-02-12 18:26:08] Sultan Pepper : e39 528i Daily driver right now
[2017-02-12 18:26:37] Sultan Pepper : E28 540 m-sport dream car :drool:
[2017-02-12 18:26:59] Sultan Pepper : that'll be my btc car one day
[2017-02-12 18:27:12] Ahhere : Sultan Pepper: gorgeous, daily driver very underrated
[2017-02-12 18:27:40] Sinterklaas : e30 convertible M3
[2017-02-12 18:27:58] Ahhere : my dad had a gorgeous 5 series from 80s not sure the e model
[2017-02-12 18:28:00] Ahhere : 525
[2017-02-12 18:28:06] Sultan Pepper : She's finicky at times, but I've fixed most of the major problems
[2017-02-12 18:28:17] Sultan Pepper : 5s are life :D
[2017-02-12 18:28:28] Ahhere : haha yeah great cars
[2017-02-12 18:28:34] sleger : rs6 > any bmw5
[2017-02-12 18:28:35] Sultan Pepper : but I want that v8
[2017-02-12 18:29:12] Ahhere : I used to have a 645 but tax was crazy and not convenient for kiddies in back
[2017-02-12 18:29:14] Sultan Pepper : sleger: yeah, some people like new cars...
[2017-02-12 18:29:26] Ahhere : sleger: is that ur ride sleger?
[2017-02-12 18:29:38] sleger : no car here
[2017-02-12 18:29:44] Ahhere : hovercraft?
[2017-02-12 18:29:53] MikeHunt : french stereotype suggests a moped
[2017-02-12 18:29:56] Sultan Pepper : hoverboard, more like
[2017-02-12 18:30:02] Ahhere : lols
[2017-02-12 18:30:06] sleger : i only bought one car in my life, a maserati, I wrecked it in 10 days
[2017-02-12 18:30:12] Sultan Pepper : MikeHunt: oooh love mopeds
[2017-02-12 18:30:44] Sultan Pepper : sleger: top speed?
[2017-02-12 18:30:45] Ahhere : sleger: wow what maserati?
[2017-02-12 18:30:53] rullwull : maserati is shit
[2017-02-12 18:30:58] sleger : granturismo
[2017-02-12 18:31:07] Sultan Pepper : sleger: close to 185mph or so?
[2017-02-12 18:31:19] sleger : i did 270 but it goes higher (kmh)
[2017-02-12 18:31:34] Sultan Pepper : Still got your license?
[2017-02-12 18:31:34] Ahhere : sleger: yes gorgeous cars, 2017 model looks lovely
[2017-02-12 18:31:46] rullwull : i drive cayeenne
[2017-02-12 18:31:55] Sultan Pepper : rullwull: you like it?
[2017-02-12 18:32:13] Sultan Pepper : They sure sound nice
[2017-02-12 18:32:32] rullwull : Sultan Pepper: perfect
[2017-02-12 18:32:42] sleger : then I damaged (not totalled) a gallardo, but it was a rental hehe
[2017-02-12 18:32:55] Sultan Pepper : Rental insurance?!
[2017-02-12 18:32:56] sleger : not sure if I should buy another car :D
[2017-02-12 18:33:10] sleger : yeah i didnt pay anything for either crash
[2017-02-12 18:33:11] Ahhere : rullwull: I had one of the early ones really big and not as pretty as the newer models
[2017-02-12 18:33:15] Sultan Pepper : sleger: get a moby
[2017-02-12 18:33:29] Ahhere : sleger: sounds like you should skip it
[2017-02-12 18:33:40] sleger : never had any issue with ferrari rentals though
[2017-02-12 18:33:42] Ahhere : defo skip the moby with your history
[2017-02-12 18:34:10] rullwull : cayeenne is not so big comparing with range rover for example
[2017-02-12 18:34:17] Nutella : sleger: oh so u have many?
[2017-02-12 18:34:27] sleger : i have none
[2017-02-12 18:34:38] Nutella : $$$?
[2017-02-12 18:34:47] Ahhere : rullwull: true I saw a nice black one today with 'sunglasses style' windscreen caught my eye
[2017-02-12 18:35:02] Ahhere : 2014 cayenne that is
[2017-02-12 18:35:13] rullwull : mine is 2013
[2017-02-12 18:35:49] Ahhere : yeah much nicer than the older shape
[2017-02-12 18:35:49] Sultan Pepper : I almost bought a mini sportsman, but settled on a vw turbo wagon
[2017-02-12 18:36:23] Ahhere : Sultan Pepper: is taht fast?
[2017-02-12 18:36:45] Sultan Pepper : Nah, but it could be pretty quick with an ecu tune
[2017-02-12 18:36:57] sleger : quick to die
[2017-02-12 18:36:59] Sultan Pepper : i had to get manual, of course
[2017-02-12 18:37:04] sleger : and not pass emission tests
[2017-02-12 18:37:12] Sultan Pepper : sleger: I have the gasser
[2017-02-12 18:37:27] Sultan Pepper : sleger: diesel sloooow
[2017-02-12 18:38:57] Sultan Pepper : Room for my bmx bike, dog, wife, future kid, AND groceries
[2017-02-12 18:39:11] Ahhere : when is the kid guy?
[2017-02-12 18:39:36] Sultan Pepper : About 9mo out I'd say
[2017-02-12 18:39:48] Ahhere : lol good luck
[2017-02-12 18:40:01] Sultan Pepper : Thanks! :D
[2017-02-12 18:41:00] MikeHunt : what u guys think about bmw x1 for lazy fat ass?
[2017-02-12 18:41:39] Sultan Pepper : Never liked the SUVs personally
[2017-02-12 18:42:04] Ahhere : Sultan Pepper: wow that e28 sounds crazy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGpzyfQl_B0
[2017-02-12 18:42:24] Sultan Pepper : If you buy new, be prepared to fork out some dough for repairs. If you buy old, be prepared to get your hands dirty
[2017-02-12 18:42:38] Sultan Pepper : Ahhere: yes. Yes. Yes.
[2017-02-12 18:43:06] Ahhere : getaway car nobody will catch you or your bmx bike, dog, wife, future kid, AND groceries
[2017-02-12 18:43:19] Sultan Pepper : Hahaha
[2017-02-12 18:43:56] Sultan Pepper : i heard that motor compared to American v8s that actually studied in school
[2017-02-12 18:45:23] Ahhere : i have a late 70s sl 4.5 litre sounds nothing like that but it does growl
[2017-02-12 18:46:03] Sultan Pepper : Ooh dang
[2017-02-12 18:47:29] Ahhere : would love a pagoda sl those fuckers are so classy but seems none for less than €70k really
[2017-02-12 18:48:33] Sultan Pepper : I drove this old fiat panda awd manual through the Italian alps, and it was seriously the most fun driving I've had
[2017-02-12 18:48:48] Sultan Pepper : in a Cheap-ass car to boot
[2017-02-12 18:49:12] Ahhere : wow sounds awesome fiat have made some smashing abarth or whatever their fancy range is called
[2017-02-12 18:50:02] Ahhere : right gotta run
[2017-02-12 18:50:07] Sultan Pepper : Yeah those are pretty nasty
[2017-02-12 18:50:15] Sultan Pepper : later!
[2017-02-12 18:52:31] Sultan Pepper : So how about this sideway?
[2017-02-12 18:52:45] Sultan Pepper : almost looking rectangular on the 15
[2017-02-12 18:53:44] Sultan Pepper : Bbands gettin' springy on the 1h
[2017-02-12 18:57:45] Sinterklaas : Sultan Pepper: you at Milan area?
[2017-02-12 18:57:57] Sultan Pepper : I was, yeah
[2017-02-12 18:58:31] Sultan Pepper : i drove from lago d'orta to cinque terre
[2017-02-12 18:59:07] Sinterklaas : ah nice!, Italy is one of the best countrys for holiday
[2017-02-12 18:59:25] Sultan Pepper : Yeah it is
[2017-02-12 19:01:07] Sultan Pepper : i saw a classical concert on an island in the middle of a giant lake in a church during a thunderstorm
[2017-02-12 19:01:20] Sultan Pepper : visceral, to say the least
[2017-02-12 19:02:41] Cromage : are you italian? xD
[2017-02-12 19:02:52] Sultan Pepper : I wish
[2017-02-12 19:03:22] Sultan Pepper : I'm just a guy that spends most of his money on traveling
[2017-02-12 19:03:28] Cromage : where are you from?
[2017-02-12 19:03:36] Cromage : I live near Milano
[2017-02-12 19:04:15] Sultan Pepper : i'd rather not say where I live now, but I was born in the states
[2017-02-12 19:05:42] Sultan Pepper : Cromage: Milano's nice. My wife and I are talking of moving to Treviso
[2017-02-12 19:06:06] Sultan Pepper : Omegna is my favorite though
[2017-02-12 19:06:17] Cromage : Milano is the best city in Italy for shopping
[2017-02-12 19:07:03] Cromage : and ofc the most international italian city
[2017-02-12 19:07:32] Sultan Pepper : Yeah, the water was a bit dissapointing though. Ever been to Omegna? The canals are fresh out of the mountains and crystal clear
[2017-02-12 19:07:53] Cromage : I don't know Omegna, sorry!
[2017-02-12 19:08:04] Cromage : now I search it on gmaps
[2017-02-12 19:08:44] Cromage : it's on the top of Lake d'Orta
[2017-02-12 19:08:52] Sultan Pepper : Take a day trip if you can. Go when it's hot because the lake is like ice year-round
[2017-02-12 19:09:01] Sultan Pepper : yep
[2017-02-12 19:10:01] Cromage : go to Venice if you want to see canals xD
[2017-02-12 19:10:07] Sultan Pepper : You can almost see the bottom of that lake in the daylight
[2017-02-12 19:10:24] Sultan Pepper : Blegh, Venice is G-Ross
[2017-02-12 19:10:48] Sultan Pepper : So many better places
[2017-02-12 19:11:09] Cromage : i think you like nature
[2017-02-12 19:11:10] Cromage : so ok
[2017-02-12 19:11:24] Sultan Pepper : Haha yeah, I'm a fan
[2017-02-12 19:11:29] Sinterklaas : I love Roma
[2017-02-12 19:11:38] Sinterklaas : been there 15x at least
[2017-02-12 19:11:50] Sultan Pepper : Never been, actually
[2017-02-12 19:11:54] Sinterklaas : only 3 hour flight from Amsterdam
[2017-02-12 19:14:12] Sultan Pepper : Hamburg is one of my favorite cities
[2017-02-12 19:15:10] Sultan Pepper : Die Schanze ❤️
[2017-02-12 19:15:54] Sultan Pepper : Got picked in Die Rota Flora
[2017-02-12 19:16:49] Sultan Pepper : And went to a rave in a cement bunker with metre-thick walls
[2017-02-12 19:16:59] Sinterklaas : that good!!
[2017-02-12 19:17:08] Sinterklaas : i love the german raves
[2017-02-12 19:17:26] Sinterklaas : together with Molly offcourse
[2017-02-12 19:17:56] Sultan Pepper : Ridiculously fun. Fog so thick you can't see and it's the bass that makes you not be able to breathe
[2017-02-12 19:18:44] Sultan Pepper : Suicide-proof bathrooms
[2017-02-12 19:32:55] y1uy : looks like we aint dropping yet after all
[2017-02-12 19:33:22] Sinterklaas : y1uy: ahahahah
[2017-02-12 19:33:24] y1uy : if we drop below 990 longs will have a hard time
[2017-02-12 19:34:00] Ahhere : y1uy: sideways is the new bullish
[2017-02-12 19:34:39] BTCDJS : Bulls give up. Just sell so we can all catch the price at 880 and go up to 1400 from there
[2017-02-12 19:35:07] Sinterklaas : Coval
[2017-02-12 19:35:31] y1uy : we have major resistance at 990-995 so if we cant break that we goin only up
[2017-02-12 19:36:28] Ahhere : ^gets it
[2017-02-12 19:36:47] Sinterklaas : Ahhere: who?
[2017-02-12 19:36:59] Ahhere : y1uy:
[2017-02-12 19:38:33] MikeHunt : http://i.imgur.com/ki4iPm9.png
[2017-02-12 19:38:35] MikeHunt : ?
[2017-02-12 19:39:04] Sultan Pepper : MikeHunt: lol
[2017-02-12 19:39:16] Sultan Pepper : that's me drowning^
[2017-02-12 19:40:11] MikeHunt : Sultan Pepper: u long?
[2017-02-12 19:40:43] BTCDJS : I'm long and short so doesn't matter to me. But this is boring. At least give yourself a chance to buy lower
[2017-02-12 19:41:35] tintin : hi
[2017-02-12 19:41:49] BTCDJS : Hi
[2017-02-12 19:41:53] Sinterklaas : tintin: hi
[2017-02-12 19:42:04] Ahhere : tintin: hej
[2017-02-12 19:43:46] y1uy : god damn it
[2017-02-12 19:43:49] y1uy : bitcoin y u so boring
[2017-02-12 19:44:03] y1uy : its like watching paint dry
[2017-02-12 19:44:23] MadDog : Right, I haven't even got rekt yet
[2017-02-12 19:44:36] MikeHunt : stamp trying to cling on to 1k
[2017-02-12 19:45:39] y1uy : MadDog: are u long nog?
[2017-02-12 19:45:46] Papou : you know it stalling at this level further reinforces we will go up
[2017-02-12 19:45:56] MadDog : 12 contracts, just practicing right now
[2017-02-12 19:46:03] MadDog : waiting for an opportunity
[2017-02-12 19:46:18] Papou : this is the opportunity, below 1k...
[2017-02-12 19:46:31] y1uy : MadDog: good bro, gotta perfect your game first
[2017-02-12 19:46:34] Papou : ur trying to catch a high levelrage perfect swing....
[2017-02-12 19:46:54] MadDog : yes
[2017-02-12 19:47:02] Papou : i can guarantee you if you buy bitcoin at 1k and hold it you will make more money overall than trying to catch every little swing
[2017-02-12 19:47:16] y1uy : true
[2017-02-12 19:47:16] MikeHunt : 1k seems rather polarizing
[2017-02-12 19:47:22] MadDog : Well we were just at 750 so I don't feel safe buying 1k
[2017-02-12 19:47:33] Papou : for a few seconds?
[2017-02-12 19:47:48] y1uy : pboc fud did not break up the bull trend
[2017-02-12 19:47:53] MadDog : I just gotta wait until a sure thing.. and this surely isn't sure
[2017-02-12 19:47:54] y1uy : so 1k is not so polarizing ;)
[2017-02-12 19:48:08] Papou : that should scare ppl
[2017-02-12 19:48:19] MikeHunt : y1uy: it seems to have split the community into perma bulls/bears atm
[2017-02-12 19:48:20] Papou : especially the bitstamp madness the other day, some serious people wanted to get an early position
[2017-02-12 19:48:38] MikeHunt : Papou: its ETF mania imo
[2017-02-12 19:48:46] Papou : no mike its called a deflationary asset
[2017-02-12 19:49:11] y1uy : MikeHunt: yerah, and its kinda stupid to think bitcoin will dump to 760-800.. i mean whats the reasoning behind that? no signs of bulltrend ending
[2017-02-12 19:49:12] Papou : that grows more difficult each day for the miners as well as less and less produced as well as more and more people buying and pulling off market
[2017-02-12 19:49:15] Sinterklaas : Papou: hold on to BTC is the best
[2017-02-12 19:49:20] Papou : yup
[2017-02-12 19:49:24] Papou : just go overall net long
[2017-02-12 19:49:33] Papou : at a safe leverage, recommend 5x or less
[2017-02-12 19:49:35] Papou : and add on dumps
[2017-02-12 19:49:37] MikeHunt : Papou: the difficulty is artificial
[2017-02-12 19:49:48] MikeHunt : its not like gold where it's actually hard to find
[2017-02-12 19:49:50] Sinterklaas : what is your opinion on "cutting" the BTC through 1000
[2017-02-12 19:49:51] Papou : lol mike, if u watched the video i posted yest, u would see
[2017-02-12 19:49:57] Papou : bitcoin is still in mining phase
[2017-02-12 19:50:06] y1uy : ok guys stop shilling, u pumping the price and i need to close my short
[2017-02-12 19:50:06] MikeHunt : Papou: i did, its all marketting by hypers and HODLers
[2017-02-12 19:50:10] Papou : miners are tryign to get a placehold on hashrate
[2017-02-12 19:50:29] Papou : there is serious money going in bitcoin infrastrucuture
[2017-02-12 19:50:33] Papou : consider buying at 1k a blessing soon
[2017-02-12 19:51:02] Papou : your best bet if you want guaranteed profit is buy now, give yourself a safe liqquidation and keep buying on the dumps
[2017-02-12 19:51:02] MikeHunt : Papou: at the end of the day its a virtual currency of no physical value beyond the faith that others will accept it for real assets or fiat
[2017-02-12 19:51:07] Sinterklaas : yes it is, BTC will go 5x within a few years
[2017-02-12 19:51:11] Papou : mike everything in life is that way
[2017-02-12 19:51:26] Papou : every single material item has a market value of supply and demand
[2017-02-12 19:51:31] MikeHunt : Papou: gold has shown to outlast fake currencies
[2017-02-12 19:51:37] Papou : bottle of waters go for 1 dollar because thats what people are willing to pay
[2017-02-12 19:52:00] Papou : gold was used to store value because it was indestructable and limited
[2017-02-12 19:52:06] Papou : and can be controlled by the ruling class
[2017-02-12 19:52:09] Papou : its supply
[2017-02-12 19:52:13] Papou : gold has fake value
[2017-02-12 19:52:17] Papou : because its supply is endless
[2017-02-12 19:52:17] Ahhere : Papou: this China ban bitcoin scare is a world apart from that of 2013. >1k lasted much less, mtgox was the main exchange vs many today. people expect a rerun it's mad.
[2017-02-12 19:52:19] Papou : just keep mining it
[2017-02-12 19:52:23] Papou : bitcoin is fixed supply
[2017-02-12 19:52:25] Papou : much different
[2017-02-12 19:52:27] Papou : and actually has use
[2017-02-12 19:52:36] MikeHunt : Papou: mining has actually got harder for gold over time as demand has increased
[2017-02-12 19:52:41] Papou : lol right
[2017-02-12 19:52:48] MikeHunt : Papou: look into gold mining and ull see
[2017-02-12 19:52:51] Ahhere : /shill
[2017-02-12 19:52:59] MikeHunt : didnt u tell ppl to buy btc at 1006 yesterday?
[2017-02-12 19:53:03] Papou : earth makes endless gold
[2017-02-12 19:53:09] Papou : mike im not giving day trading advice
[2017-02-12 19:53:13] Papou : im giving investment advice
[2017-02-12 19:53:20] MikeHunt : Papou: fact: you said long 1006 yesterday
[2017-02-12 19:53:22] Papou : u wanna play 10$ swings at 100x leverage to make a few bucks, do it
[2017-02-12 19:53:24] Papou : thats called gambling
[2017-02-12 19:55:00] Papou : what im saying is its much smarter to go overall long, reduce ur position in profit at resistances, and restock on the dumps
[2017-02-12 19:55:04] Papou : because overall long term its up
[2017-02-12 19:55:17] Papou : its not wise to constantly go full enter and exits long/short
[2017-02-12 19:55:21] Papou : thats how u get burned
[2017-02-12 19:55:25] Papou : but if u been bull since 600
[2017-02-12 19:55:30] Papou : kept buying small with the pump
[2017-02-12 19:55:39] Papou : then reduced between 1040-1080
[2017-02-12 19:55:51] Papou : and rebought the dips since we all know they drop way below they are supposed to
[2017-02-12 19:55:52] MikeHunt : Papou: on a long time frame 1k buy could make sense
[2017-02-12 19:55:53] Papou : u are the winner
[2017-02-12 19:56:00] Papou : not trying to catch a long, thena short, then a long, then a short
[2017-02-12 19:56:02] sleger : u are sleger
[2017-02-12 19:56:05] Papou : just go long, reduce, rebuy, reduce
[2017-02-12 19:56:25] tintin : where do i click to trade XBTH17 ?
[2017-02-12 19:57:07] tintin : i c XBT perpetual swap and some xbc yuan stuff... but no XBTH17