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[2017-02-12 03:41:12] DorianWhack-A-Moto : i went 100x long and lost money. SCAM CONFIRMED
[2017-02-12 03:41:32] DorianWhack-A-Moto : I lost money on Bitmex AMA
[2017-02-12 03:42:07] dodic : There is an actual steemit "review" on bitmex that is basically that
[2017-02-12 03:42:46] MikeHunt : DorianWhack-A-Moto: 100x = suicide
[2017-02-12 03:46:16] paper : is the reason my stops didn't fill b/c i selected the "cross margin" function when setting up the stops?
[2017-02-12 03:46:29] paper : the longs themselves were on cross as well
[2017-02-12 03:46:32] paper : :/
[2017-02-12 03:46:56] paper : three stops, and only the smallest one filled
[2017-02-12 03:52:25] Sultan Pepper : Paper: did you have "close on trigger" selected?
[2017-02-12 03:53:28] paper : Sultan Pepper: i didn't select it or deselect it
[2017-02-12 03:53:49] Sultan Pepper : paper: then it was on by default
[2017-02-12 03:54:05] Sultan Pepper : when the first order triggered, the other two closed
[2017-02-12 03:54:08] paper : what is the best way on this site to set up plain vanilla stops for leveraged longs?
[2017-02-12 03:54:27] paper : i even chose mkt instead of limit to be sure it would fill
[2017-02-12 03:54:49] Sultan Pepper : right, just deselect "close on trigger"
[2017-02-12 03:55:21] paper : oh shit. so my small stop a couple dollars above buy price (to cover lending fees) cancelled out my huge stops that were just pennies above buy price
[2017-02-12 03:55:31] Sultan Pepper : yep
[2017-02-12 03:55:58] paper : screenshot/evernote time. thx
[2017-02-12 03:56:20] Sultan Pepper : No problem
[2017-02-12 04:34:28] j8 : yeah that default setting seems to cause a lot of problems
[2017-02-12 04:34:53] j8 : although not having it causes other problems
[2017-02-12 04:40:24] Lalaworld : When to relong when to relong....
[2017-02-12 05:00:48] rapidtrades : whats with this slow drop man
[2017-02-12 05:00:55] rapidtrades : either drop or dont
[2017-02-12 05:02:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 4 @ 6653.9 :punch: :whale:
[2017-02-12 05:02:51] laisee : rapidtrades jawboning the market down like a pro (central bank guv'nor)
[2017-02-12 05:06:32] narnarfromnarnia : must be in long rekts territory soon
[2017-02-12 05:06:38] narnarfromnarnia : 990 rekts
[2017-02-12 05:06:50] 7766 : 有中国人没？
[2017-02-12 05:07:14] narnarfromnarnia : 中国
[2017-02-12 05:07:54] 7766 : 没有中国人吗？
[2017-02-12 05:14:08] narnarfromnarnia : 7766: wrong chat
[2017-02-12 05:14:28] cookielito : narnarfromnarnia: all the badass traders are chinese
[2017-02-12 05:14:41] narnarfromnarnia : yeah they have math's
[2017-02-12 05:14:44] Nutella : hi im a girl
[2017-02-12 05:14:44] narnarfromnarnia : and bots
[2017-02-12 05:14:50] narnarfromnarnia : grill
[2017-02-12 05:14:56] cookielito : Nutella: hey doll
[2017-02-12 05:14:59] narnarfromnarnia : are we going up or down
[2017-02-12 05:15:02] cookielito : :P
[2017-02-12 05:15:09] narnarfromnarnia : all btc is frozen in china for real?
[2017-02-12 05:15:13] narnarfromnarnia : been away for a week
[2017-02-12 05:15:39] Rune : top exchanges in china have stop bitcoin withdrawals
[2017-02-12 05:16:08] Rune : they can still withdraw there yuan if they wanted
[2017-02-12 05:17:34] l3f : Lol bitmex getting rekt by whaleclub shills on reddit
[2017-02-12 05:17:39] l3f : https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/5take6/bitmex_mark_price_vs_last_price/ddlg01t/
[2017-02-12 05:20:49] narnarfromnarnia : l3f: just saw that so funny
[2017-02-12 05:21:42] Nutella : help me
[2017-02-12 05:21:59] l3f : Nutella: only god can save you now
[2017-02-12 05:23:21] cookielito : Nutella: what happened?
[2017-02-12 05:24:17] Nutella : how do i make many?
[2017-02-12 05:28:08] Lalaworld : Have money to begin with
[2017-02-12 05:29:50] Nutella : I don't like you
[2017-02-12 05:34:05] Rado : when is the downtime
[2017-02-12 05:34:06] Rado : ?
[2017-02-12 05:34:21] MikeHunt : Rado: 2pm utc
[2017-02-12 05:34:32] Rado : MikeHunt: thanks
[2017-02-12 05:35:13] Nutella : downtime?
[2017-02-12 05:37:05] BitMEX_Wally : https://blog.bitmex.com/site_announcement/scheduled-downtime-sunday-february-12-1400-utc/
[2017-02-12 05:43:20] i3 : if we have an approvalb which is very unlikely, how much % will you accept to trade for a well known bank on the ETF?
[2017-02-12 05:43:56] i3 : 30 / 20 %? or lower?
[2017-02-12 05:43:59] Nutella : Rado: do u know how to make many?
[2017-02-12 05:44:32] Rado : yes, don't use protection
[2017-02-12 05:44:43] dodic : lol
[2017-02-12 05:46:28] Nutella : you guys are not nice
[2017-02-12 05:48:41] dodic : maybe related to the 0 sum game of futures vs the happy unicorns and butterflies of assets
[2017-02-12 05:49:02] Lalaworld : Kill your self Nutella
[2017-02-12 05:49:07] Lalaworld : spare everyone else
[2017-02-12 05:49:37] Nutella : :(
[2017-02-12 05:50:58] Nutella : poor people are mean
[2017-02-12 05:57:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 500 @ 975.03
[2017-02-12 06:04:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5000 @ 994.08
[2017-02-12 06:04:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 32606 @ 973.57
[2017-02-12 06:05:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 9000 @ 972.79
[2017-02-12 06:05:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 10 @ 971.48
[2017-02-12 06:05:31] REKT : :roller_coaster: :chart_with_downwards_trend: :japanese_goblin:
[2017-02-12 06:05:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 15571 @ 972.31
[2017-02-12 06:06:06] YOLOCOIN : SMASH
[2017-02-12 06:06:20] degen : Nooooooooooo
[2017-02-12 06:07:01] MikeHunt : lol
[2017-02-12 06:07:03] MikeHunt : 980s here we come
[2017-02-12 06:07:08] narnarfromnarnia : stop hunters coming
[2017-02-12 06:07:54] YOLOCOIN : Bulls gon' learn today
[2017-02-12 06:07:57] YOLOCOIN : SMASH
[2017-02-12 06:09:29] shery : I Think we will test 900 today!
[2017-02-12 06:09:38] shery : narnarfromnarnia: welcome back!
[2017-02-12 06:09:56] narnarfromnarnia : shery: hey there hows your trades going so far?
[2017-02-12 06:10:10] narnarfromnarnia : im no position just waiting for the ole sunday dip
[2017-02-12 06:10:54] shery : narnarfromnarnia: i was out after new year bul run, came back longed at 900 , got out at 915, entered again at 1k got out at 1060 , now shorting from 1007
[2017-02-12 06:11:07] shery : 990*
[2017-02-12 06:11:11] narnarfromnarnia : oh nice
[2017-02-12 06:11:17] narnarfromnarnia : close at 990>
[2017-02-12 06:11:42] narnarfromnarnia : i am waiting to see a few more big rekts and maybe go long for a little gain
[2017-02-12 06:19:28] YOLOCOIN : Dont long
[2017-02-12 06:19:35] YOLOCOIN : You'll gey smashed
[2017-02-12 06:22:06] MikeHunt : YOLOCOIN: u think 988 can hold this?
[2017-02-12 06:22:14] MikeHunt : or by smash u mean we drop bellow it?
[2017-02-12 06:22:49] YOLOCOIN : MikeHunt: breh this will get smashed all the way to sub 900
[2017-02-12 06:23:09] YOLOCOIN : We'll see a serious bounce there to confirm bottom
[2017-02-12 06:23:25] MikeHunt : YOLOCOIN: u think in one go or gradually?
[2017-02-12 06:24:15] YOLOCOIN : From what i've seen from the drops lately i'd say it'll be in 1 go
[2017-02-12 06:25:52] YOLOCOIN : But shit if there's one serious advice i can give it will be to never take anyone from the troll box seriously LEL
[2017-02-12 06:27:20] Papou : march is ur best long right now
[2017-02-12 06:27:21] Papou : amazing discount
[2017-02-12 06:27:32] Papou : its like a second chance
[2017-02-12 06:27:49] MikeHunt : Papou: if ur a bull
[2017-02-12 06:33:09] laisee : March discount is telling a story, if we could only read the signals
[2017-02-12 06:40:29] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/TAng2d1F/ march okcoin ready to crash again
[2017-02-12 06:42:14] MikeHunt : aethlios: banking on a 760 retest?
[2017-02-12 06:43:01] aethlios : MikeHunt: can't say about spot, but okcoin 715 again possible. that product for some reason is super bearish.
[2017-02-12 06:45:12] YOLOCOIN : bulls strong
[2017-02-12 06:45:28] YOLOCOIN : great for the sellers
[2017-02-12 06:45:42] YOLOCOIN : dump into them
[2017-02-12 06:46:30] YOLOCOIN : once they realize wtf going on it'll be too late
[2017-02-12 06:48:15] aethlios : MikeHunt: if etf is not approved there could be huge sell of
[2017-02-12 06:48:57] MikeHunt : aethlios: i think we'd definately see 700s then
[2017-02-12 06:49:08] MikeHunt : which would break the support for bull run iirc
[2017-02-12 06:49:28] MikeHunt : really depends how high this is wen decision comes in
[2017-02-12 06:50:45] aethlios : MikeHunt: margin calls could be huge, 700 spot means 600 march (17 days left), or the new quarterly will be live 15 march maybe, this in deep discount possible.
[2017-02-12 06:51:53] aethlios : okcoin shorter maybe betting in low 700 price end march because of pboc and etf rejection.
[2017-02-12 06:52:44] MikeHunt : ye, im expecting ETF to fail as well
[2017-02-12 06:53:37] aethlios : bitfinex daily rates for btc are 0.06% now, huge double the usd, never happened again. so spot is super bullish but futures are super bearish. this is crazy.
[2017-02-12 06:54:13] aethlios : MikeHunt: I won't bet but will use the sell of for a new nice entry long, then slow recover etc.
[2017-02-12 06:54:24] MikeHunt : same here
[2017-02-12 06:54:28] MikeHunt : looks like stamp is bouncing 1k
[2017-02-12 06:55:09] aethlios : MikeHunt: then may lepen wins and goes 2,000 because of euro crash.
[2017-02-12 06:55:32] MikeHunt : aethlios: yeh, however im not sure continentals will get off so easily as britain did
[2017-02-12 06:55:40] MikeHunt : after what Austria did fudging the election
[2017-02-12 06:56:14] MikeHunt : euro may well be held together until there is rioting on the streets during a financial crisis
[2017-02-12 06:56:23] MikeHunt : but if lepen wins its game over for euro
[2017-02-12 06:57:22] Papou : someone trying to go bull on spot
[2017-02-12 06:57:22] Papou : 100k
[2017-02-12 06:57:24] Papou : nice
[2017-02-12 06:57:37] aethlios : MikeHunt: if lepen wins and this is the end of euro and the stocks bull market, because new nationalist policies will hit the profits of multinational corporations, also higher inflation, less global trade.
[2017-02-12 06:58:46] MikeHunt : i hate to say it but it seems like a rise of national socialism
[2017-02-12 06:58:52] MikeHunt : is on the way
[2017-02-12 06:59:27] Papou : all fiat markets gonna collapse
[2017-02-12 06:59:35] Papou : bitcoin will go parabolic
[2017-02-12 06:59:43] MikeHunt : Papou: replaced with crypto probably, then gov can spy on us proper
[2017-02-12 06:59:56] MikeHunt : QR code on forehead and right hand
[2017-02-12 07:00:15] Papou : dont forget the tinfoil hat
[2017-02-12 07:00:27] MikeHunt : Papou: i got mine, shiny and ready to go
[2017-02-12 07:00:30] Papou : all hail zultan
[2017-02-12 07:00:41] Papou : or is it zoltan
[2017-02-12 07:01:37] MikeHunt : i think zultans a brand of sun lotion
[2017-02-12 07:02:04] MikeHunt : i suppose in germany it'll be heil zoltan
[2017-02-12 07:04:12] YOLOCOIN : mark of the beast as the Bible tells it
[2017-02-12 07:06:13] MikeHunt : another view is that crypto is a trap
[2017-02-12 07:06:22] MikeHunt : a false alternative to fiat
[2017-02-12 07:06:29] MikeHunt : that can be destroyed at will
[2017-02-12 07:06:42] Papou : well its more than paying the bills for now
[2017-02-12 07:06:42] Papou : so
[2017-02-12 07:06:52] MikeHunt : yeh for now its great 4 speculation
[2017-02-12 07:06:59] MikeHunt : once shit gets real ill move into gold/sivler more
[2017-02-12 07:07:05] Papou : great for profit as well
[2017-02-12 07:07:32] Papou : mike u ready to go full bull?
[2017-02-12 07:07:35] Papou : watch this video, one second
[2017-02-12 07:07:55] Papou : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyq4od8MBoE
[2017-02-12 07:08:19] Papou : watch that video, and u will understand bitcoin is dirt cheap right now
[2017-02-12 07:08:29] Papou : and its an accumulation race right now
[2017-02-12 07:08:44] MikeHunt : its hype
[2017-02-12 07:08:49] MikeHunt : fundamentally worthless
[2017-02-12 07:08:58] MikeHunt : only physical assets have value
[2017-02-12 07:09:24] MikeHunt : bitcoins value comes solely from faith
[2017-02-12 07:11:08] laisee : only assets that generate real cash flows have value, physical or not.
[2017-02-12 07:11:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 30000 @ 996.66
[2017-02-12 07:12:56] MikeHunt : laisee: but again that comes down to faith
[2017-02-12 07:13:32] MikeHunt : gold is fundamentally useful hence it has held its value throughout history
[2017-02-12 07:13:45] MikeHunt : bitcoin fundamentally useless hence it will eventually return to 0
[2017-02-12 07:13:49] laisee : er, no it doesn't. unless u mint ur own coin m faith != cash.
[2017-02-12 07:14:08] MikeHunt : laisee: fiat/bitcoin rely on faith
[2017-02-12 07:14:31] MikeHunt : in fact i'd say notes are practically worth more because u can wipe ur ass with them
[2017-02-12 07:14:54] laisee : u said only ohysical assets have value, to which I disagreed.
[2017-02-12 07:15:45] laisee : e.g. is western union network worth more than 0.00? Visa? paypal?
[2017-02-12 07:16:30] MikeHunt : laisee: fundamental value
[2017-02-12 07:19:11] laisee : ah, thats something new ... my value is the ability to generate cash income
[2017-02-12 07:20:08] MikeHunt : laisee: something can be fundamentally worthless but still be useful
[2017-02-12 07:20:56] laisee : like semantics?
[2017-02-12 07:21:13] laisee : to a politician
[2017-02-12 07:22:46] Papou : bitcoin will be great again
[2017-02-12 07:24:37] laisee : MBGA!!!
[2017-02-12 07:40:08] MikeHunt : does leverage multiply fees?
[2017-02-12 07:48:03] MikeHunt : nope it doesnt, yay
[2017-02-12 07:55:11] rogue : but the fee is applied on the leveraged amount obviously
[2017-02-12 07:55:24] rogue : not the margin
[2017-02-12 08:31:53] jung1 : morning
[2017-02-12 08:32:30] jung1 : I have a bomb for you guys
[2017-02-12 08:32:46] jung1 : https://cointracking.info/ kick ass site to manage your portfolio
[2017-02-12 08:33:08] jung1 : and https://cointracking.info/bitcoin_analysis.php based on 9mln records provided by users
[2017-02-12 08:33:14] jung1 : mindblowing
[2017-02-12 08:37:36] mike23aa : arond 40% prob of ETF approval? look overvalued....
[2017-02-12 08:37:45] MikeHunt : mike23aa: yup
[2017-02-12 08:37:47] MikeHunt : hope it goes higher
[2017-02-12 08:37:50] MikeHunt : good to short
[2017-02-12 08:38:37] mike23aa : 25% looks more realistic, right?
[2017-02-12 08:38:43] MikeHunt : yup
[2017-02-12 08:39:06] MikeHunt : well it depends who u ask
[2017-02-12 08:39:17] MikeHunt : 25% is official chance iirc
[2017-02-12 08:40:26] jung1 : Whats your thoughts about bitcoin ETF? Ant chance for approval?
[2017-02-12 08:40:48] MikeHunt : 0%
[2017-02-12 08:41:15] mike23aa : under 25%
[2017-02-12 08:41:20] MikeHunt : its volatile, open to price manipulation (PnD) and choyna practically owns it
[2017-02-12 08:41:59] MikeHunt : if SEC allowed it, i'd expect a huge bubble and then a lot of sore butts afterwards
[2017-02-12 08:42:13] MikeHunt : inc. the SEC officials who allowed it in the first place
[2017-02-12 08:43:36] jung1 : yeah
[2017-02-12 08:45:20] jung1 : imo if they get approval we will go really high but if not there will be dump to maybe even 500
[2017-02-12 08:45:45] jung1 : 31 march are pretty low here
[2017-02-12 08:46:00] MikeHunt : jung1: breaching 700s would mean dead bull run
[2017-02-12 08:46:23] MikeHunt : yeh i could go quite low
[2017-02-12 08:46:24] jung1 : cant wait
[2017-02-12 08:46:29] MikeHunt : it*
[2017-02-12 08:46:46] MikeHunt : either way those in the know stand to make a lot of money
[2017-02-12 08:46:52] mike23aa : i dont think it will fall so much... probably %of approval is not priced
[2017-02-12 08:47:54] jung1 : and pretty intresting how will affect price that one month freeze in china
[2017-02-12 08:48:06] MikeHunt : mike23aa: the initial fall isnt the problem, its if it breaks the bull support line
[2017-02-12 08:48:40] jung1 : money from there could go through ETH
[2017-02-12 08:48:45] jung1 : whats mean pump
[2017-02-12 08:50:23] mike23aa : failing to make new hights is more concerning that ETF approval to me
[2017-02-12 08:50:32] Ahhere : Morning. Looks like china dump was pretty gai overnight. Didnt evem get within 10 dollars of my stop. PAMP
[2017-02-12 08:52:37] MikeHunt : mike23aa: china pump engine is dead
[2017-02-12 08:52:40] MikeHunt : since they lost margin
[2017-02-12 08:52:45] MikeHunt : and restrictions etc.
[2017-02-12 08:52:57] MikeHunt : AML/KYC stuff in a month will probably be a game changer as well
[2017-02-12 08:53:09] MikeHunt : apparently there will be withdrawal limits
[2017-02-12 08:53:57] MikeHunt : west thinks they can continue without them, i disagree... http://i.imgur.com/wee4t6L.png
[2017-02-12 08:54:26] jung1 : good info for bitmex
[2017-02-12 09:05:27] Ahhere : Every minute there isnt more bad news is a minute ppl realize it doesnt matter and we go back up to upcreep. Thats why bears be fudding so bad.
[2017-02-12 09:07:41] Ahhere : Chinaman fonnl
[2017-02-12 09:07:55] Ahhere : Gonna get u
[2017-02-12 09:08:09] Ahhere : mtgox happening again
[2017-02-12 09:08:14] Ahhere : satoshi has diarrhoea
[2017-02-12 09:08:18] Ahhere : FUD
[2017-02-12 09:09:00] jung1 : ah fuck I dont know man
[2017-02-12 09:09:08] jung1 : I konw that longterm it will go up
[2017-02-12 09:09:14] jung1 : but now Im 50/50
[2017-02-12 09:20:54] rullwull : MikeHunt: china dump engine is dead as well) Chinese users sold what they had on they accounts, nothing else to sell
[2017-02-12 09:21:59] kryptopojken : the bitmex settlement fee, is that taken at every open/close or at settlements as in every friday for for exacmple ETH7D?
[2017-02-12 09:26:18] Adriana : rullwull: I think some still hoping to exit on better terms. if BTC does't go up to a new high anytime soon, they may start dumping it at whatever price
[2017-02-12 09:27:07] BitMEX_Wally : kryptopojken: Settlement fee is only taken at settlement, i.e. for open positions at Friday 12:00 UTC f
[2017-02-12 09:27:11] BitMEX_Wally : for ETH7D
[2017-02-12 09:27:30] kryptopojken : ok great thx
[2017-02-12 09:28:34] rullwull : Adriana: btw there is a huge demand for btc in Russian, gov changed their mind regarding crypto and I know around 5 gov blockchian projects that are already in work. Also Russia consider btc is replace currency for export contracts instead of usd
[2017-02-12 09:28:40] Ahhere : BitMEX_Wally: hi can you point me to a faq as to how the trading engine operates positiosn in downtime?
[2017-02-12 09:29:06] Ahhere : good morning btw
[2017-02-12 09:29:19] jung1 : rullwull: sound cool. any links?
[2017-02-12 09:29:29] rullwull : also there will be huge mining facilities in Russia in the next 6 months
[2017-02-12 09:29:47] jung1 : BitMEX_Wally: Whats your thoughts about bitcoin ETF? Ant chance for approval?
[2017-02-12 09:30:32] rullwull : jung1: central bank is working on master chain project, ministry of finance are working of other block chain project to store documents there and many more
[2017-02-12 09:36:12] rullwull : jung1: http://www.coindesk.com/russian-central-bank-blockchain-distributed-ledger-transactions/
[2017-02-12 09:37:30] rullwull : All other links are in Russian, can't find in English
[2017-02-12 09:39:56] Adriana : rullwull: Russia was almost on pair with US by localbitcoins volume last week, probably will have the largest volume by the end of this month with the current trend https://coin.dance/volume/localbitcoins/RUB/BTC https://coin.dance/volume/localbitcoins/USD/BTC
[2017-02-12 09:40:19] Ahhere : I'm calling the longest run above 1k beginning by the end of today. http://imgur.com/a/2IbPq
[2017-02-12 09:40:23] rullwull : when Russia starts to mine Chinese miners will die
[2017-02-12 09:40:43] Adriana : rullwull: Masterchain is Ethereum based if I am not mistaken
[2017-02-12 09:41:14] BitMEX_Wally : jung1: COIN_BH17 is trading at 41.8% so I'd say that's the chance of approval :D
[2017-02-12 09:41:16] rullwull : Adriana: no, its private blockchain, not etherium
[2017-02-12 09:41:22] Ahhere : time between 1k runs is getting exponentially smaller i wunder what that means
[2017-02-12 09:41:56] Ahhere : BitMEX_Wally: hi wally do u know is there an faq on how downtime affects us. email a bit sparse
[2017-02-12 09:42:17] BitMEX_Wally : Ahhere: The website will be offline, not sure it can affect you more than that
[2017-02-12 09:42:30] Ahhere : positions stops, etc
[2017-02-12 09:42:32] Adriana : rullwull: privately forked Ethereum :) https://cointelegraph.com/news/blockchain-revolution-in-russia-bank-of-russia-tests-masterchain
[2017-02-12 09:42:54] BitMEX_Wally : Trading will be suspended during the downtime, so no liquidations or stops will be triggered
[2017-02-12 09:43:23] Ahhere : BitMEX_Wally: sure thx
[2017-02-12 09:44:52] rapidgains : 5 hours from now?
[2017-02-12 09:44:59] Lalaworld : The corn must plummet it just must. Nobody can see it so it's physically so it's worthless. No value to be had out of something invisible!!! It's like a ghost, not real
[2017-02-12 09:45:59] rullwull : Adriana: I'll check with devs, I know them personally, but what I was told earlier it's pure private blockchain. Btw Vitalik had a big road show in Russia last may, he was introduced to many top people and everybody were saying that eth can be used for many projects, but after first hard fork everything changed
[2017-02-12 09:47:17] rullwull : Currently everybody consider hyper ledger and exodus (bitfury) solutions
[2017-02-12 09:48:49] Adriana : rullwull: Is the cost of electricity generation in Russia lower or higher than in China currently?
[2017-02-12 09:51:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 11950 @ 1000.74
[2017-02-12 09:51:29] Lalaworld : Shorts continue to rise on finex. Yet the price remains up
[2017-02-12 09:51:51] Lalaworld : it must be due to artificial manipulation pushing it up
[2017-02-12 09:51:56] Lalaworld : theres no demand
[2017-02-12 09:53:02] rullwull : Adriana: much cheaper, especially in the eastern Siberia and climate is perfect for cooling
[2017-02-12 09:53:43] Ahhere : Lalaworld: we were wrong bitcoin ded fam
[2017-02-12 09:53:59] Ahhere : shorties get it
[2017-02-12 09:54:01] Ahhere : /s
[2017-02-12 09:54:56] Lalaworld : The winklevii cant have an unstable corn before the big meeting with the sec!! It must be them
[2017-02-12 09:56:33] aethlios : Lalaworld: rates to borrow btc double of rates to borrow usd, which is weird in a 300 bull run from 720, this is extra bearish but price goes up.
[2017-02-12 09:56:53] Lalaworld : Yeah it's an unbelievable run
[2017-02-12 09:57:09] Lalaworld : bears don't believe the amount of interest
[2017-02-12 09:57:45] Adriana : rullwull: Any details about the upcoming large Russian farms?
[2017-02-12 10:00:31] rullwull : I can't give you any info right now, but for example I'm involve in one project that is planing to run about 250 peta hashs / sec. also there is a rumor that currently the biggest miner in Russia is Ivanov the owner of rosneft oil company
[2017-02-12 10:00:56] jigsaw : I can't close my position as it says I have not sufficient balance
[2017-02-12 10:01:15] jigsaw : but I want to close the damn position. what kind of nonsense is this?
[2017-02-12 10:04:55] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/63zp0yq1/ next months ahead.
[2017-02-12 10:05:58] Ahhere : aethlios: do u even log scale
[2017-02-12 10:06:20] aethlios : this is log scale
[2017-02-12 10:06:43] micmix : pretty picture :smile:
[2017-02-12 10:06:50] Lalaworld : Convient drop to 800 lol
[2017-02-12 10:08:12] Ahhere : aethlios: maybe this is pboc plan
[2017-02-12 10:08:24] micmix : aethlios: the only picture that matters: https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iXN0WxkmD.Ig/v5/640x-1.jpg
[2017-02-12 10:08:35] Lalaworld : I think it just as easily goes up to 1600 and drops back to 1000-1200 before taking offf again
[2017-02-12 10:09:39] aethlios : etf not approved dips 800, also possible new pboc intervention. so below 1000 much room for triangle to consolidate.
[2017-02-12 10:10:22] Lalaworld : So contingent on etf not passing, got it
[2017-02-12 10:11:23] heheh lo : i guess not much movement unless PBOC has something new
[2017-02-12 10:11:55] aethlios : so building long positions 750 quarterly and 800 spot (50/50) for 1,700 target dec. 2017
[2017-02-12 10:13:01] Lalaworld : Everyone waiting for the 800 drop. Will create even more fomo when it shows it's not going down
[2017-02-12 10:16:05] Ahhere : aethlios: if you are right then I will admire your discipline. If you are wrong, i will mock your stubborness. fair?
[2017-02-12 10:17:41] aethlios : Ahhere: I bought a large LTC position at 4,00. as a hedge if btc doesn't fall. I am planning to get in big 750-800 futures + spot (50/50)
[2017-02-12 10:19:13] Ahhere : aethlios: if it goes up then it means chinese influence is less than thought which weakens your ltc hedge tho. I hope you have some xmr or some other alt too
[2017-02-12 10:20:30] aethlios : Ahhere: ltc is for segwit and Lighting net.
[2017-02-12 10:22:42] Ahhere : aethlios: yes fair point ltc will appreciate... esp if btc gets it too. I can see other alts with less ossified development adding segwit later if ltc testbed succeeds.
[2017-02-12 10:22:53] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/8pwPUGFN/ each move had 90% profit, so 1,700 is a reachable target.
[2017-02-12 10:24:09] rullwull : aethlios: I bought about 35K ltc at $2
[2017-02-12 10:24:45] rullwull : but I'm tired to wait for ltc rise)
[2017-02-12 10:27:55] aethlios : rullwull: hold it strong, whales accumulate cheap from miners 2 years now. Monero did the same, whan 70% of coins will already mined then they will pump it. LTC the second most secure blockchain, price stable but market cap goes up.
[2017-02-12 10:32:06] rullwull : aethlios: I do
[2017-02-12 10:32:48] aethlios : rullwull: sell ATH 50, rebuy 15-20, that's my plan.
[2017-02-12 10:50:06] Ahhere : aethlios: why is it second most secure? Hashrate lower than ETH no?
[2017-02-12 10:52:36] aethlios : Ahhere: they don't have the same algo, can't say. eth has forked already.
[2017-02-12 10:52:37] l3f : aethlios: Hopefully PBoC does some work on Monday
[2017-02-12 10:53:13] Sinterklaas : when is this ETF approval?
[2017-02-12 10:53:20] aethlios : l3f: https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/JAGD0Dry-BTC-consolidation-before-the-move-to-1-700/
[2017-02-12 10:53:33] l3f : aethlios: yeah I saw
[2017-02-12 10:53:35] aethlios : Sinterklaas: 13 of march or 12??
[2017-02-12 10:53:45] Sinterklaas : ETF is like some kind of D-day for Btc
[2017-02-12 10:53:46] l3f : I may flat line a bit first though
[2017-02-12 10:54:04] l3f : it*
[2017-02-12 10:54:09] micmix : deadline march 11 5pm eastern time @Sinterklaas
[2017-02-12 10:55:02] aethlios : l3f: new quarterly will be live mid march, if it is in a discount is the best because can give 200 extra profit.
[2017-02-12 10:55:03] l3f : aethlios: https://i.imgur.com/quXRSQs.png
[2017-02-12 10:55:18] l3f : here's a bitmex open interest graph
[2017-02-12 10:55:45] l3f : the large drop is the dump on the 10th
[2017-02-12 10:55:57] Sinterklaas : aethlios: @micmix thanks, are they going to accept it? i think not...
[2017-02-12 10:56:33] l3f : aethlios: Hopefully it dumps hard soon
[2017-02-12 10:56:44] micmix : Sinterklaas: it's approved by default unless SEC disapproves until march 11
[2017-02-12 10:57:17] Sinterklaas : oeh
[2017-02-12 10:57:28] i3 : it could be the next Monday btw
[2017-02-12 10:57:35] DorianWhack-A-Moto : ETF can be rejected anytime between now and March 11
[2017-02-12 10:57:35] l3f : rising open interest and flat line on the price movement
[2017-02-12 10:57:42] l3f : Someone's hedging
[2017-02-12 10:57:47] aethlios : I think politically is bad for them to accept it, why to make famous a decentralized anti-gov system? btc is a system outside the system. also wall street traditional products could be hurt.
[2017-02-12 10:58:22] DorianWhack-A-Moto : aethlios: they cant beat it so they'll regulate it
[2017-02-12 10:58:27] micmix : bitcoin ETF is such a niche product, wall street is safe lol
[2017-02-12 10:58:33] Sinterklaas : so they can drop the axe on us whenever they want... (read when they have shorted btc first... ;)) @micmix
[2017-02-12 10:58:44] i3 : no for the finance system it's great, i agree for the political reasons for the rejection
[2017-02-12 10:58:55] micmix : Sinterklaas: yep, rule change can be denied at any moment
[2017-02-12 10:59:26] aethlios : micmix: so best time to short COIN here is a day before, price could be 95 then?? as people think it will be accepted??
[2017-02-12 10:59:51] i3 : sure it will pump until 2-3 days before
[2017-02-12 11:00:04] micmix : aethlios: COIN with 1x leverage is not interesting, play XBT instead
[2017-02-12 11:00:15] i3 : it's funny
[2017-02-12 11:00:35] i3 : no liquidity but still
[2017-02-12 11:00:38] aethlios : if it is 95 a day before I will short as I lose 5 btc and profit 95.
[2017-02-12 11:01:10] micmix : there will be no liquidity to short 5 btc the day before
[2017-02-12 11:01:21] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Bitcoin ATH march 10, ETF rejected 4:59pm March 11
[2017-02-12 11:01:29] i3 : price wont be 95 as well
[2017-02-12 11:02:24] l3f : We expecting dump if etf fails or nothing at all
[2017-02-12 11:02:56] l3f : aethlios: I think the ETF expectations may mess with that chart
[2017-02-12 11:03:13] micmix : imho it's an assymetric bet, big pump if approved and a little dump if not @l3f
[2017-02-12 11:03:16] i3 : it's in 4 weeks, it's highly likely that a dump will occur after the rejection
[2017-02-12 11:03:31] i3 : a nice movement to check where we are, then uptrend
[2017-02-12 11:03:50] l3f : micmix: knowing bitcoin it might pump either way
[2017-02-12 11:04:02] micmix : l3f: it's possible
[2017-02-12 11:04:19] l3f : puts a damper on how low we can go in the pre-etf era
[2017-02-12 11:04:42] l3f : Given that mega pump potential is at 40%
[2017-02-12 11:04:52] l3f : EV of etf is most likely already positive
[2017-02-12 11:05:37] l3f : Unless of course this upward movement is the market pricing in the ETF
[2017-02-12 11:05:58] l3f : in which case it is already priced
[2017-02-12 11:06:04] micmix : personally I would put a chance of approval over 50%: 1) similar investment vehicles already approved in Europe, 2) it's approval by default, so SEC will need a list of good reasons for disapproval, 3) big names got involved lik Virtu
[2017-02-12 11:06:35] i3 : l3f: i think it's already priced around ATH
[2017-02-12 11:06:50] l3f : i3: we didn't know a forced decision march 11 though
[2017-02-12 11:07:05] l3f : they could delay indefinitely as far as we were concerned
[2017-02-12 11:07:16] i3 : yeah
[2017-02-12 11:07:19] i3 : what happened btw?
[2017-02-12 11:10:03] JT : SEC cannot delay any further...
[2017-02-12 11:10:16] Ahhere : 50 mins shorties. Thanks for the donations.
[2017-02-12 11:10:25] JT : If rejected, open a short, find the bottom, then go long again
[2017-02-12 11:10:36] JT : :)
[2017-02-12 11:10:52] DorianWhack-A-Moto : l3f: definitely not priced in for approval. Analysts are expecting 300 million in first week pouring into bitcoin if approved
[2017-02-12 11:11:50] l3f : aethlios: move forward the moon schedule
[2017-02-12 11:11:54] l3f : hahaha
[2017-02-12 11:14:49] i3 : when will we break the 1k to 1k,20?? in two days? wtf
[2017-02-12 11:28:07] aethlios : http://seekingalpha.com/article/4044517-bitcoin-etf-approved-march-2017-black-swan-asymmetric-risk-reward good analysis
[2017-02-12 11:31:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `ZECH17`: sell 21 @ 0.029967
[2017-02-12 11:31:56] l3f : oh jesus zec
[2017-02-12 11:31:57] l3f : rapidzecs
[2017-02-12 11:32:03] l3f : is still long from 3btc
[2017-02-12 11:35:24] DorianWhack-A-Moto : 3 btc or 0.03 btc?
[2017-02-12 11:35:46] l3f : DorianWhack-A-Moto: 3 btc per zec
[2017-02-12 11:36:15] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Whaaat? How much would they have to keep throwing on their margin to sustain that?
[2017-02-12 11:36:34] l3f : DorianWhack-A-Moto: x1?
[2017-02-12 11:36:51] l3f : I'm assuming he never cut losses
[2017-02-12 11:36:57] l3f : because it is funnier that way
[2017-02-12 11:37:49] DorianWhack-A-Moto : thats mental
[2017-02-12 11:42:55] i3 : bitmex shutdown today? how long time? any ideas?
[2017-02-12 11:47:14] DorianWhack-A-Moto : think it'll be like 10-15 minutes
[2017-02-12 11:47:53] jung1 : https://twitter.com/BitMEXdotcom/status/829244980820582401
[2017-02-12 11:50:04] i3 : jung1: thx
[2017-02-12 11:51:35] Ahhere : DorianWhack-A-Moto: no 2pm UTC I thought which is >2 hours away ?? Anyone?
[2017-02-12 11:52:30] DorianWhack-A-Moto : I meant think it'll be down for 10-15 mins, UTC 14:00 is 4 hours away.
[2017-02-12 11:53:21] Ahhere : Ah finex so bear these dais
[2017-02-12 11:53:31] Tux26 : the downtime will be in two hours and 7 minutes
[2017-02-12 11:54:04] DorianWhack-A-Moto : i'm looking at the wrong conversion then my bad
[2017-02-12 11:54:55] Tux26 : just enter "14:00 in UTC" into google and it'll show you what time this is in your local timezone
[2017-02-12 11:55:19] ayy_lmao : yes it about 2 hours away
[2017-02-12 11:55:20] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Yep 2 hours. I really need sleep
[2017-02-12 11:55:32] ayy_lmao : 1 hour after withdrawals
[2017-02-12 12:03:18] VenCap : did people who went long get the payout?
[2017-02-12 12:03:24] VenCap : "Funding"?
[2017-02-12 12:03:33] VenCap : i thought it was minus = shorts ?
[2017-02-12 12:03:52] ayy_lmao : - means shorts short pay
[2017-02-12 12:04:03] ayy_lmao : negative*
[2017-02-12 12:05:48] DorianWhack-A-Moto : where does funding show? straight in available balance?
[2017-02-12 12:06:14] DorianWhack-A-Moto : or in PNL?
[2017-02-12 12:07:00] BitMEX_Wally : DorianWhack-A-Moto: it goes into realised PNL and into your margin balance
[2017-02-12 12:07:13] DorianWhack-A-Moto : BitMEX_Wally: Thanks
[2017-02-12 12:07:20] VenCap : great i finally got on the right side of funding for once and 3 mins later long closed
[2017-02-12 12:07:31] VenCap : 1002
[2017-02-12 12:07:54] VenCap : will wait for995 to get back in now
[2017-02-12 12:08:07] ayy_lmao : did you enter that long using limit?
[2017-02-12 12:10:31] Ahhere : Tanx for monies shorties.
[2017-02-12 12:11:21] MadDog : Good morning, sweet pumpkins
[2017-02-12 12:12:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 10000 @ 1003.06
[2017-02-12 12:12:30] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-02-12 12:12:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 8640 @ 993.32
[2017-02-12 12:12:33] -_- : China up
[2017-02-12 12:12:36] ayy_lmao : lol
[2017-02-12 12:12:40] MadDog : Ahhhh, just lost my house
[2017-02-12 12:12:54] herpinator : was a nice long on march contract there
[2017-02-12 12:14:34] MadDog : K, starting with 8 contracts again since rekt
[2017-02-12 12:14:44] ayy_lmao : dude
[2017-02-12 12:14:46] ayy_lmao : stop trading
[2017-02-12 12:14:50] ayy_lmao : *gambling
[2017-02-12 12:15:09] MadDog : I was doing good until I got overtired.. made 60x overnight trade
[2017-02-12 12:15:24] jung1 : nice
[2017-02-12 12:15:26] ayy_lmao : ive heard you say that countless times
[2017-02-12 12:15:28] MadDog : one of the 100 dumbest things I've done yesterday
[2017-02-12 12:15:30] ayy_lmao : "tired"
[2017-02-12 12:15:34] MadDog : I can't control myself..
[2017-02-12 12:15:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 230 @ 1004.64
[2017-02-12 12:15:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 1004.60
[2017-02-12 12:15:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 15000 @ 995.81
[2017-02-12 12:15:57] REKT : MOOON TIME!
[2017-02-12 12:15:58] ayy_lmao : GET IT TOGETHER NAGANOO
[2017-02-12 12:16:13] MadDog : at least I have 1200 coming in this month from steemit
[2017-02-12 12:16:13] herpinator : I always hear people who trade high leverage say stuff like that "I made 50x 20x 70x gains and then i got rekt" you have never heard of profit taking?
[2017-02-12 12:16:15] MadDog : nomatter what
[2017-02-12 12:16:28] MadDog : herpinator, I just added that to my rules
[2017-02-12 12:16:28] ayy_lmao : 1200 USD from steemit, r u srs?
[2017-02-12 12:16:44] MadDog : I sold 26 of my premium accounts for 450 usd
[2017-02-12 12:16:58] MadDog : then I get my weekly powerdown of 200 dollars for 4 more weeks
[2017-02-12 12:17:02] ayy_lmao : ayy lmao
[2017-02-12 12:17:07] jung1 : wtf
[2017-02-12 12:17:21] MadDog : Just bought an ounce of OG kush from Alphabay too
[2017-02-12 12:17:28] MadDog : so that's extra money in my pocket. :)
[2017-02-12 12:17:37] jung1 : good way to celebrate
[2017-02-12 12:17:50] MadDog : Dealing weed is so much easier than trading. :)
[2017-02-12 12:18:48] jung1 : you are that guy from one of bitcoin documentaries that trade weed for bitcoin?
[2017-02-12 12:21:45] herpinator : dam it fell 1 cent away from my exit
[2017-02-12 12:22:05] VitalikButerin : herpinator: Bitcoin is a cruel mistress
[2017-02-12 12:22:10] abbey : moon
[2017-02-12 12:22:11] herpinator : lol
[2017-02-12 12:24:50] Noobz : Morning Peepz, Botz, Rektz
[2017-02-12 12:25:12] MadDog : Dudes, I just made 16 pounds of beef jerky
[2017-02-12 12:25:19] MadDog : laff
[2017-02-12 12:25:39] MadDog : Hope I turns out good.. that's 70 dollars of meat
[2017-02-12 12:25:46] l3f : panic buy!
[2017-02-12 12:26:10] Dynamix : MadDog: Don't stop babysitting btc
[2017-02-12 12:27:15] MadDog : I love crypto. I am writing a story soon about how paypal and banks screwed me out of hundreds of dollars and tons of my time wasted on phone with customer service
[2017-02-12 12:27:47] xxxxxx : Can i close a perpetual swap anytime?
[2017-02-12 12:28:12] abbey : all aboard fast, not much time, no more 3 digits
[2017-02-12 12:28:20] aethlios : xxxxxx: yes 24/7/365 is live
[2017-02-12 12:28:54] xxxxxx : aethlios: so i can bet on 10-15 Min movement?
[2017-02-12 12:29:43] aethlios : xxxxxx: swap doesn't close but has funding, maybe you like quarterly better.
[2017-02-12 12:30:12] bingbongfly : this funding rate is rid! shorts pay, but price go up
[2017-02-12 12:31:22] Ahhere : abbey: save ur breath shorts don't like monies.
[2017-02-12 12:31:55] xxxxxx : aethlios: Thank you for the information! Where do i find quaterly? In XBT Tab i only see Perpetual Swap and Mar 31
[2017-02-12 12:32:07] aethlios : xxxxxx: this is mar31
[2017-02-12 12:33:36] xxxxxx : aethlios: what is the exccat difference?
[2017-02-12 12:35:37] aethlios : xxxxxx: swap has the funding which you pay or receive, quarterly is more volatile but has no funding, is better for longer term holding, swap holds closer to spot but can reduce your return if keep it long time and pay funding. read the references.
[2017-02-12 12:36:24] xxxxxx : aethlios: Thank you very much!
[2017-02-12 12:36:57] aethlios : so if you are bullish and think btc goes up now is better to buy march which is cheaper 15 usd and won't pay funding.
[2017-02-12 12:41:00] JasonLi : what will be the exact cost of funding
[2017-02-12 12:41:17] JasonLi : will it be like very relevant to your position
[2017-02-12 12:41:22] JasonLi : say, how much percent
[2017-02-12 12:41:47] JasonLi : Thanks for answering ;)
[2017-02-12 12:46:04] -_- : 1 hour 15 minutes till Bitmex scheduled downtime
[2017-02-12 12:46:18] billyboy402 : can some one tell , if i dont have a order currently open . but i want to buy one if there a dip ...... can you place a trailing stop 50 away from ( trigger) index ..... EG , if XBTH17 place trail at $50 , so it will place a limit order a 951 ( current index = 1001)
[2017-02-12 12:47:07] -_- : why not just place a normal limit order at $941 and someone will fill it if the price dips that low
[2017-02-12 12:47:44] billyboy402 : i want to catch the spike ,,, so if we got to 1100 tonihgt , it move the buy limit order at 1050 ...
[2017-02-12 12:48:26] billyboy402 : and if the price dump to ( index fall ) to 980 , i want it to move the price to 930 ( not keep it at 950)
[2017-02-12 12:49:17] billyboy402 : so it always keep the limit order $50 away from index
[2017-02-12 12:53:16] j8 : can't be done with the existing order types, i think
[2017-02-12 12:53:39] xxxxxx : billyboy402: You'll have to write a script
[2017-02-12 12:54:18] billyboy402 : xxxxxx: yea , i thought that would be the case , i dont have the skill set to code scrips yet :(
[2017-02-12 12:55:21] xxxxxx : billyboy402: How much would such a script be worth to you?
[2017-02-12 12:56:22] xxxxxx : billyboy402: I could code one for you
[2017-02-12 12:57:12] billyboy402 : xxxxxx: this part is , i wouldnt know how to run it , but to be honest , it only save me from missing out on order when i am not online ,
[2017-02-12 12:57:28] MadDog : Just made 50% on my first trade of the day.. still at 0.0001
[2017-02-12 12:57:33] MadDog : yay
[2017-02-12 12:57:48] billyboy402 : would it have to be a broswer scrip , or @xxxxxx software . CMD
[2017-02-12 12:57:50] Bitcoingirl : this is so dumb
[2017-02-12 12:58:04] ayy_lmao : the fakeout?
[2017-02-12 12:58:26] xxxxxx : billyboy402: It would be cmd software. Not hard to run this
[2017-02-12 12:58:55] BTCDJS : Bitcoingirl: What is so dumb?
[2017-02-12 12:58:57] xxxxxx : billyboy402: Im doing algorithmic trading for quite a while now on bitfinex spot
[2017-02-12 13:01:13] Dynamix : oooh shhit
[2017-02-12 13:01:15] Dynamix : btc what u doing
[2017-02-12 13:01:44] Dynamix : xxxxxx: wtf is that ?
[2017-02-12 13:02:55] xxxxxx : Dynamix: Modeling trading strategies with scripts. Safes you much time (and discipline ^^)