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[2017-02-10 03:39:33] startChat : BitMEX_Sam: the orderbook you mean being able to see more orders when you expand the orderbook window?
[2017-02-10 03:39:35] YOLOCOIN : in 5 minutes
[2017-02-10 03:39:42] rapidtrades : BAN ABBEY FOR IRRATIONAL EXUBERANCE
[2017-02-10 03:39:52] MikeHunt : abbey: 80k ?
[2017-02-10 03:39:59] BitMEX_Sam : startChat: Yes
[2017-02-10 03:40:04] BitMEX_Sam : As in, when you resize it
[2017-02-10 03:40:15] startChat : hilarious, i was just coming into chat to ask for that
[2017-02-10 03:40:23] BitMEX_Sam : You're far from the first one
[2017-02-10 03:40:35] startChat : :thumbsup:
[2017-02-10 03:41:10] startChat : BitMEX_Sam: Will there be some kind of report with the LTC incident?
[2017-02-10 03:41:24] abbey : butthurt so much need yo yell boys?
[2017-02-10 03:41:49] abbey : *to
[2017-02-10 03:42:00] rapidtrades : abbey ur butt is about to get cracked for a second time today
[2017-02-10 03:42:34] Ugly_Old_Goat : Yes what happened there? LTC?
[2017-02-10 03:43:13] Ugly_Old_Goat : I notice the same thing has happened in Factorm
[2017-02-10 03:43:21] abbey : rapidtrades: ur wrong, my butts just fine
[2017-02-10 03:43:30] micmix : I came up with a new indicator: whenever BitMEX announces maintenance, expect extreme volatility and maintenance postponed ;-)
[2017-02-10 03:43:46] rapidtrades : hope so
[2017-02-10 03:43:58] rapidtrades : extreme volatility=extreme profits
[2017-02-10 03:44:26] micmix : yep, my bots made over 10% today and the day is not over yet
[2017-02-10 03:44:48] rapidtrades : 10% on what
[2017-02-10 03:45:04] MikeHunt : also its weekend so no new fiat
[2017-02-10 03:45:44] micmix : rapidtrades: 10% of all my trading capital
[2017-02-10 03:46:13] rapidtrades : wow...the entire capital or just what u have deposited here?
[2017-02-10 03:49:18] micmix : 10% of all trading capital deposited on exchanges (except capital on okc to keep okc hedges). didn't check bitmex numbers but should be close to 10% too
[2017-02-10 03:49:59] rapidtrades : nice
[2017-02-10 03:50:00] j8 : badass. was it trading okc quarterly @micmix
[2017-02-10 03:50:22] micmix : yes, hedges were on weekly by-weekly
[2017-02-10 03:50:31] micmix : *biweekly
[2017-02-10 03:50:45] j8 : pretty insane volatility over there
[2017-02-10 03:51:28] micmix : yeah, crazy day
[2017-02-10 03:51:44] rapidtrades : haven't seen anything yet
[2017-02-10 03:52:15] rapidtrades : they will drop the support post settlement
[2017-02-10 03:52:44] j8 : before today i think the record quarterly discount was like -5%.. it hit -25%
[2017-02-10 03:53:01] rapidtrades : btcc trading $10 above others cos they didn't stop withdrawals
[2017-02-10 03:56:06] rapidtrades : bobby lee needs to open his big mouth about the withdrawls
[2017-02-10 03:56:26] ThruTheFloor : They did. For 72 hours.
[2017-02-10 03:56:41] rapidtrades : what do u eamn
[2017-02-10 03:57:19] ThruTheFloor : BTCC just suspended withdrawals for 72 hours. No BTC withdrawals available on the three major exchanges in China now
[2017-02-10 03:57:51] Ugly_Old_Goat : Payday in 2 minutes
[2017-02-10 03:58:07] rapidtrades : ThruTheFloor: wow
[2017-02-10 03:58:41] MikeHunt : i said it would come
[2017-02-10 03:58:42] MikeHunt : BTCC
[2017-02-10 03:58:43] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Ugly_Old_Goat: what happens in 2 minutes?
[2017-02-10 03:58:55] j8 : PayDay
[2017-02-10 03:59:02] Ugly_Old_Goat : I get paid
[2017-02-10 03:59:04] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Are chinese traders going to come here?
[2017-02-10 03:59:10] Ugly_Old_Goat : Paid for being long
[2017-02-10 03:59:15] Capo_Pitbull : Folks, all bitcoin withdrawals from exchanges in China have been halted
[2017-02-10 03:59:19] Capo_Pitbull : So there's no selling happening
[2017-02-10 03:59:38] MikeHunt : Capo_Pitbull: they can withdraw fiat
[2017-02-10 03:59:45] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Capo_Pitbull: bitcoin withdrawals. Can still withdraw YUAN so they can sell
[2017-02-10 04:00:28] MikeHunt : in fact current situation encourages selling
[2017-02-10 04:00:45] Capo_Pitbull : Thanks, sorry, new to this
[2017-02-10 04:00:59] MikeHunt : Capo_Pitbull: follow cnledger on twitter
[2017-02-10 04:01:06] Capo_Pitbull : Cool
[2017-02-10 04:01:10] DorianWhack-A-Moto : encouraged selling so much hence the dump
[2017-02-10 04:01:29] MikeHunt : Capo_Pitbull: and BitcoinWeibo
[2017-02-10 04:01:42] MikeHunt : DorianWhack-A-Moto: yup
[2017-02-10 04:03:01] thefool : so could i buy bitcoin here and then deposit in the Chinese exchanges for instant profit?
[2017-02-10 04:03:22] rapidtrades : sounds like a foolproof plan
[2017-02-10 04:03:30] rapidtrades : emphasis on fool
[2017-02-10 04:03:42] DorianWhack-A-Moto : proof of a fool
[2017-02-10 04:04:00] thefool : explain to me where i'm wrong
[2017-02-10 04:04:15] DorianWhack-A-Moto : thefool: the part where you send btc to chinese excahanges
[2017-02-10 04:04:32] thefool : that would be a bad idea? or just not currently possible?
[2017-02-10 04:04:55] j8 : do you have a chinese bank account?
[2017-02-10 04:05:06] j8 : can you buy bitcoins on bitmex?
[2017-02-10 04:05:20] DorianWhack-A-Moto : You can't withdraw your bitcoin back out and its not clear if a foreigner could even withdraw fiat
[2017-02-10 04:06:03] DorianWhack-A-Moto : in the midst of an AML/KYC crackdown. Why would you want to send to China?
[2017-02-10 04:06:28] rapidtrades : the why is in the username
[2017-02-10 04:06:43] thefool : i dont think you guys like me very much
[2017-02-10 04:07:18] j8 : we just want to learn how to instant profit
[2017-02-10 04:08:05] j8 : step 1. buy bitcoins with bitcoins
[2017-02-10 04:08:12] j8 : step 2. sell for CNY
[2017-02-10 04:08:18] j8 : step 3. ???
[2017-02-10 04:08:51] thefool : in other news though the FCC is almost certainly going to approve the winklevoss ETF
[2017-02-10 04:08:57] DorianWhack-A-Moto : step 1. wake up
[2017-02-10 04:09:01] DorianWhack-A-Moto : step 2 ????
[2017-02-10 04:09:04] DorianWhack-A-Moto : step 3 profit
[2017-02-10 04:09:08] dodic : I think you are all ruining what could have been a great learning experience for @thefool
[2017-02-10 04:09:29] thefool : I'm genuinely trying to learn
[2017-02-10 04:09:35] rapidtrades : hey so to correctly calculate my exposure in BTC terms, do i use the value based on current price or the price at the time of entry
[2017-02-10 04:09:48] DorianWhack-A-Moto : dodic: its like showing up to a brothel, handing over money and asking the gal "so, why are we here?"
[2017-02-10 04:10:02] dodic : lol
[2017-02-10 04:10:38] thefool : i know pretty much nothing more than your average laymen. I want to understand how these exchanges are traded and how prices vary between exchanges. Someone said their "bot" made them 10% today. How is that possible?
[2017-02-10 04:10:45] DorianWhack-A-Moto : thefool: ETF isn't certain. I'm hoping it gets approved but more chance it won't
[2017-02-10 04:10:58] arbitrage101 : run out of trading capital
[2017-02-10 04:11:00] arbitrage101 : how sad
[2017-02-10 04:11:02] rapidtrades : thefool: https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/COIN_BH17
[2017-02-10 04:11:04] j8 : rapidtrades: current price. your position gets bigger when the price is down
[2017-02-10 04:11:09] arbitrage101 : need spread to reverse
[2017-02-10 04:11:11] j8 : in btc terms
[2017-02-10 04:11:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 3000 @ 968.80
[2017-02-10 04:11:27] dodic : thefool: Anything very obvious is probably not what it seems
[2017-02-10 04:12:05] MikeHunt : thefool: ETF has very low chance
[2017-02-10 04:12:14] thefool : if you buy the "COIN" contract at lets say 33.30- if it went up to $40 would i 100% be able to sell it?
[2017-02-10 04:12:21] Avalanche : okc 963.54, stamp 981.52, mark price should be 972.4 but it's 4$ lower why ?
[2017-02-10 04:13:13] MikeHunt : Avalanche: index = multiple currencies
[2017-02-10 04:13:26] j8 : wut
[2017-02-10 04:14:03] Papou : anyone trade altcoins here?
[2017-02-10 04:14:04] rapidtrades : f*Ck this going to bed
[2017-02-10 04:14:07] dodic : thefool: only if someone is willing to buy from you at that price.
[2017-02-10 04:14:20] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: set alarm for 7:59
[2017-02-10 04:14:28] j8 : Avalanche: the index price is 971.7, the mark price is a bit lower because there's a funding rate component that decays over 8 hours
[2017-02-10 04:14:56] Avalanche : j8: ok
[2017-02-10 04:15:09] Avalanche : j8: tnx
[2017-02-10 04:15:13] j8 : np
[2017-02-10 04:16:39] MikeHunt : 200k contracts on okc weekly
[2017-02-10 04:18:49] Papou : are we going up or down
[2017-02-10 04:19:40] MikeHunt : Papou: probably see at 8am
[2017-02-10 04:19:46] MikeHunt : how many okc weeklys are red
[2017-02-10 04:19:54] MikeHunt : ~20000 BTC worth of contracts
[2017-02-10 04:22:13] rapidtrades : whats more lkely, chinese exchanges stopping withdrawals to implement AML, or stopping withdrawals to halt the exodus of money after they removed margin trading
[2017-02-10 04:22:49] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: AML is the excuse
[2017-02-10 04:22:58] MikeHunt : hording cash is the reason
[2017-02-10 04:23:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 65 @ 6532.5
[2017-02-10 04:23:05] YOLOCOIN : they are illiquid
[2017-02-10 04:23:07] MikeHunt : but maybe im being pesimistic...
[2017-02-10 04:23:33] rapidtrades : okc is super shady
[2017-02-10 04:24:34] rapidtrades : but maybe they're not insolvent cos they're been running in house bots
[2017-02-10 04:25:19] rapidtrades : being China tho, odds are some are insolvent
[2017-02-10 04:25:43] rapidtrades : guess we'll see which ones soon
[2017-02-10 04:28:02] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: maybe they all made a backroom deal
[2017-02-10 04:28:10] MikeHunt : coordinate news so they can ride the dumps
[2017-02-10 04:28:28] MikeHunt : then wen its settled, pump to short squeeze
[2017-02-10 04:37:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 18606 @ 970.10
[2017-02-10 04:37:13] heheh lo : here comes rekt
[2017-02-10 04:37:16] j8 : bitmex tab is using tons of cpu, i wonder what changed
[2017-02-10 04:38:01] Papou : dump it down to 965
[2017-02-10 04:38:04] Papou : scoop me up on the train
[2017-02-10 04:38:17] BitMEX_Sam : j8: I've seen the chart get a bit out of control
[2017-02-10 04:38:29] j8 : mine's disabled
[2017-02-10 04:38:47] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm. I'm at about 25% from the task manager- what does yours show?
[2017-02-10 04:38:59] j8 : 80-120%
[2017-02-10 04:39:05] BitMEX_Sam : And do you have devtools open? That slows it down quite a bit
[2017-02-10 04:39:26] j8 : nope
[2017-02-10 04:39:38] BitMEX_Sam : If you have the time, recording a profile and emailing it to me would be very helpful
[2017-02-10 04:39:47] BitMEX_Sam : Just be sure to zip it - they get huge
[2017-02-10 04:45:50] heheh lo : can we see 880 within next week?
[2017-02-10 04:47:26] MikeHunt : heheh lo: mayb in a few hrs
[2017-02-10 04:48:32] heheh lo : MikeHunt: lol, then probably it will shoot up fast.. irrational market?
[2017-02-10 04:49:54] j8 : BitMEX_Sam: done
[2017-02-10 04:52:20] MikeHunt : heheh lo: well 20k btc settlement in a few hrs
[2017-02-10 04:52:26] MikeHunt : i suspect many were margined longs
[2017-02-10 04:52:32] micmix : j8: btw, wanted to ask if you are trading on quoine or bitflyer. need a replacement for cny markets
[2017-02-10 04:52:35] MikeHunt : so atm they'd be in negative
[2017-02-10 04:53:16] j8 : micmix: i'm not, but also maybe looking into it
[2017-02-10 04:53:54] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks @j8
[2017-02-10 04:54:54] micmix : j8: I lost over half of income after pulling out of all cny markets. counterparty risk for okc international is getting uncomfortable high too :-(
[2017-02-10 04:56:11] MikeHunt : looking through market depth
[2017-02-10 04:56:18] MikeHunt : really not much stopping this dumping
[2017-02-10 04:56:30] MikeHunt : if okc's wklys are negative
[2017-02-10 04:57:03] DorianWhack-A-Moto : 3 hours til OKC settlement.
[2017-02-10 05:01:08] j8 : micmix: yeah i'm thinking the same about okc.com. sleger trades at quoine, it sounds like their trading engine is pretty messed up
[2017-02-10 05:01:57] j8 : which i think explains some of the crazy wicks they've had
[2017-02-10 05:02:12] j8 : but it's probably a goldmine for botting
[2017-02-10 05:02:42] micmix : yeah, i noticed some weirdness in quoine market data
[2017-02-10 05:02:54] j8 : that's putting it lightly
[2017-02-10 05:03:53] j8 : i guess it is 20x spot also
[2017-02-10 05:04:09] j8 : or 25 maybe
[2017-02-10 05:04:15] micmix : 25x afaik
[2017-02-10 05:05:08] j8 : yep. lets see what the lending depth is like
[2017-02-10 05:06:21] arbitrage101 : any reason why okc internation counter party risk is high?
[2017-02-10 05:06:24] MikeHunt : okc wkly, 20k contracts, assuming all long, at least -400CNY gap between ~8am price and 7 days ago, ~6% loss, so minimum 1200BTC drop mayb
[2017-02-10 05:06:35] j8 : if i can figure their ui out...
[2017-02-10 05:07:07] micmix : https://api.quoine.com/ir_ladders/USD ?
[2017-02-10 05:10:13] micmix : arbitrage101: same owners as okc china, and PBoC have enough muscle to close okc international if they decide to
[2017-02-10 05:11:00] heheh lo : that squeeze dump tho
[2017-02-10 05:12:36] MikeHunt : micmix: isnt that USD only thou so pboc dont care?
[2017-02-10 05:12:50] aethlios : micmix: Hi, I use okcoin int. do you think they manipulated march to margin call clients??
[2017-02-10 05:13:09] MikeHunt : aethlios: https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/5t226f/okcoin_future_market_manipulation_liquidated_at/
[2017-02-10 05:14:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1800 @ 975.15
[2017-02-10 05:15:25] micmix : aethlios: it's impossible to say. maybe it was them, maybe it was sell pressure pushing the price down
[2017-02-10 05:16:13] aethlios : micmix: they must be running bots to margin call customers. bitmex here same product stayed 200 usd above.
[2017-02-10 05:16:37] j8 : interesting how okc futures has become so disconnected from every other market though
[2017-02-10 05:17:16] j8 : their quarterly is $70 lower than here
[2017-02-10 05:17:49] aethlios : okcoin march was weird all the up movement, they lost in 3 hours a 30 days 370 usd move.
[2017-02-10 05:18:13] trat : Can u move stop losses on the chart?
[2017-02-10 05:18:18] trat : or see
[2017-02-10 05:18:51] aethlios : j8: reached 200 usd below bitmex march, MM's here stopped following okcoin, I am thinking if i should stop using them (or reduce capital a lot)
[2017-02-10 05:19:16] Sultan Pepper : Trat: use a trailing stip
[2017-02-10 05:19:28] Sultan Pepper : stop*
[2017-02-10 05:20:27] aethlios : Can't think one player keeps march 100 usd below index now.
[2017-02-10 05:21:08] Sultan Pepper : Btc-noob: you here?
[2017-02-10 05:21:22] j8 : aethlios: yeah, they reduced my capital for me, so that works out i guess
[2017-02-10 05:22:53] Yuppie : Had an interesting day yest at OK
[2017-02-10 05:23:17] Yuppie : may LTC quarterly longs got whiped out
[2017-02-10 05:23:49] Yuppie : was trading up to 25% discount to spot
[2017-02-10 05:24:39] Yuppie : not sure OK manipulated the market, probably just much more big leveraged longs than here
[2017-02-10 05:24:53] Yuppie : and less liquididity providers
[2017-02-10 05:25:47] Yuppie : Was surprised Bitmex quarterly actually held up pretty well
[2017-02-10 05:25:59] Papou : damn funding next will be epic for longs
[2017-02-10 05:26:05] Papou : plus we will be at 1040 by then again
[2017-02-10 05:26:09] Papou : free money baby
[2017-02-10 05:26:17] micmix : my guess is that some big whale(s) was playing "the big short" game on quarterly, sell pressure on the way up was huge, never seen anything like that before. not saying it was okc themselves but possible
[2017-02-10 05:26:26] heheh lo : i think we need to go 900 again before 1050
[2017-02-10 05:26:36] aethlios : Yuppie: I talked support and told them to accept usd as collateral to trade futures. because if deposit only coins, when price goes down collateral value goes down, but position is in usd, so everyone is margin called and creates a cascade. they must allow usd as collateral for futures.
[2017-02-10 05:26:52] heheh lo : consolidation is yet to happen before the big dump on the news
[2017-02-10 05:26:54] lockhedge : open interest on okc is much higher than here, order book depth is not enough to absorb liquidations
[2017-02-10 05:27:21] l3f : Also they are locked onto x20
[2017-02-10 05:27:26] l3f : and can't adjust leverage
[2017-02-10 05:27:45] j8 : yeah you can add/remove margin or use cross margin
[2017-02-10 05:27:54] l3f : True
[2017-02-10 05:27:56] micmix : lockhedge: yep, low liquidity plus marking to last price is a recipe for disaster
[2017-02-10 05:28:28] l3f : aethlios: It feels like we bottomed
[2017-02-10 05:29:12] l3f : A nice set of pipes on bitstamp
[2017-02-10 05:29:13] j8 : add to that the inverse pnl, and you have a real disaster
[2017-02-10 05:29:24] micmix : aethlios: yeah, inverse contract and btc collateral, dangerous combination
[2017-02-10 05:29:35] j8 : hey i said that.
[2017-02-10 05:29:47] micmix : I was already typing ;-)
[2017-02-10 05:29:49] j8 : oh he said it first
[2017-02-10 05:29:53] j8 : i missed that
[2017-02-10 05:29:55] j8 : :)
[2017-02-10 05:30:19] aethlios : micmix: they are stupid because they have spot and accept usd, so why not to use usd as margin and have less liquidations??
[2017-02-10 05:30:25] Yuppie : aethlios: did or do you hold a position in quarterlies?
[2017-02-10 05:30:33] Yuppie : At ok?
[2017-02-10 05:30:49] aethlios : Yuppie: I had a long march okcoin and liquidated 755.
[2017-02-10 05:31:04] micmix : j8: is this https://api.quoine.com/ir_ladders/USD quoine lending depth? don't really want to dig through their UI :smile:
[2017-02-10 05:31:04] l3f : aethlios: my condolences
[2017-02-10 05:31:06] j8 : yeah they could easily allow both as collateral
[2017-02-10 05:31:15] l3f : aethlios: did they liquidate everyone?
[2017-02-10 05:31:31] Yuppie : aethlios: ouch, sry
[2017-02-10 05:31:51] micmix : aethlios: that's rough :-(
[2017-02-10 05:32:32] j8 : micmix: i'm not sure, i couldn't find it in the UI except something that indicated a flat 0.1% daily with a max order size of 100 btc. anyway there's no asks, so i'm not sure what that means
[2017-02-10 05:32:36] Yuppie : My LTC got whiped out around 3.50, low was below 3
[2017-02-10 05:33:11] micmix : j8: me neither, weird
[2017-02-10 05:33:18] aethlios : was a hedge, so spread opened 220, lost a lot, around 100k, I will use them now with less capital smaller positions
[2017-02-10 05:33:24] Yuppie : Then a smaller position I entered at 3 10% beliw spot and got liquidatet at low basically
[2017-02-10 05:33:32] Yuppie : 20% below spot
[2017-02-10 05:33:39] l3f : aethlios: jesus
[2017-02-10 05:34:02] l3f : No stop loss or did it gap down instantly?
[2017-02-10 05:34:23] jose : you should use exchanges that have circuit breakers, just sayin
[2017-02-10 05:34:26] Yuppie : Low was around 700
[2017-02-10 05:34:33] aethlios : l3f: last 15 minutes went down 200 usd
[2017-02-10 05:34:48] micmix : aethlios: I hedge only on weekly and biweekly, smaller basis swings
[2017-02-10 05:34:49] aethlios : 717 low, liquidated 755
[2017-02-10 05:34:49] j8 : aethlios: same happened to me but i got liquidated a bit sooner luckily
[2017-02-10 05:34:53] heheh lo : down we go again, this sideways
[2017-02-10 05:35:24] Yuppie : Right now its free money without or minmal leverage
[2017-02-10 05:35:33] Yuppie : long ok short here
[2017-02-10 05:36:23] aethlios : j8: I was stupid, few hours before was almost zero discount, and 5 usd above finex, should had reduced half position or all the hedge, so wont have problem.
[2017-02-10 05:36:54] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Money money money, always funny, when you're broke 'n high
[2017-02-10 05:36:57] arbitrage101 : doesnt look like the dump is over
[2017-02-10 05:37:32] MikeHunt : 2hrs 23m til okc settlement
[2017-02-10 05:37:59] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Tick tock.
[2017-02-10 05:40:43] Yuppie : Insurance fund at OK actually eent UP
[2017-02-10 05:41:28] jose : ofc, at 700 USD you will find a lot of people to take your liquidations order
[2017-02-10 05:41:29] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Yuppie: bull run before settlement?
[2017-02-10 05:41:36] j8 : no, wait until this week's losses wipe it out @Yuppie
[2017-02-10 05:44:06] MikeHunt : im thinking this dumps to 6k
[2017-02-10 05:44:07] MikeHunt : at least
[2017-02-10 05:44:09] Yuppie : DorianWhack-A-Moto: not sure if it will have a lot of impact
[2017-02-10 05:44:10] MikeHunt : what u guys reckon?
[2017-02-10 05:45:33] DorianWhack-A-Moto : I'm banking on a dump so...yeah?
[2017-02-10 05:45:45] Yuppie : $100 discount on quarterlies is just too much
[2017-02-10 05:46:15] Yuppie : in LTC we are again zero discount
[2017-02-10 05:46:17] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Think it might be a good time to throw a few dollars at some alts
[2017-02-10 05:46:38] Yuppie : I am going to stay away from alts
[2017-02-10 05:47:42] Yuppie : ZEC PASC LTC...didn't work for me
[2017-02-10 05:47:56] Yuppie : XMR neither
[2017-02-10 05:48:26] DorianWhack-A-Moto : For hodling XMR is the only one i'd pick
[2017-02-10 05:49:08] DorianWhack-A-Moto : i did pick
[2017-02-10 05:49:14] MikeHunt : if its -$100 prem that means potential drop of 3k BTC
[2017-02-10 05:49:19] MikeHunt : assuming their all neg longs
[2017-02-10 05:49:56] Yuppie : Yeah
[2017-02-10 05:51:37] Papou : you guys need to scoop strat up
[2017-02-10 05:51:39] Papou : while its cheap
[2017-02-10 05:52:00] Papou : throw 20 grand in strat and thank me later
[2017-02-10 05:53:00] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Papou: Ok. Can I borrow 20 grand?
[2017-02-10 05:53:50] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Seriously though. Is there any news about Strat that would make a pump likely?
[2017-02-10 05:54:45] irishsia : DorianWhack-A-Moto: No strat news I can think of. There is some SC news coming though
[2017-02-10 05:54:53] irishsia : But it probably won't pump right away
[2017-02-10 05:55:45] DorianWhack-A-Moto : I haven't looked into SC, just know the name. Might do some reading
[2017-02-10 05:56:11] MikeHunt : looked into strat, their unity3d thing seemed a bit gimmicky
[2017-02-10 05:56:17] MikeHunt : (ie: unusable for most devs)
[2017-02-10 05:56:51] irishsia : DorianWhack-A-Moto: You really should. Decentralised storage, fully working too. Expect big things from SC this year
[2017-02-10 05:57:00] Papou : dude strat will be huge
[2017-02-10 05:57:08] Papou : and its dirt cheap right now
[2017-02-10 05:57:14] Papou : and ledger recently added them
[2017-02-10 05:57:22] thefool : what is strat and SC?
[2017-02-10 05:57:26] irishsia : Papou: Hey man, let me do my shilling in peace :D
[2017-02-10 05:57:28] Papou : why would a low market cap shitcoin need a hardware walelt?
[2017-02-10 05:57:54] DorianWhack-A-Moto : irishsia: Ohhh. You're talking bout SIA? I was thinking ShadowCash, my mistake.
[2017-02-10 05:58:04] thefool : what is strat and SC?
[2017-02-10 05:58:47] irishsia : thefool: Papou can explain Strat better than me. SC is decentralised storage. You can rent your own HD to make money also.
[2017-02-10 05:59:20] DorianWhack-A-Moto : irishsia: Yeah SIA is interesting. There is also Storj which is similar I think?
[2017-02-10 05:59:52] jose : There is also MaidSafe
[2017-02-10 05:59:53] DorianWhack-A-Moto : oops should probably call it SC to avoid confusion
[2017-02-10 05:59:58] irishsia : DorianWhack-A-Moto: Yep, Storj is similar although not strictly as decentralised as Sia.
[2017-02-10 06:00:25] irishsia : https://forum.sia.tech/topic/21/sia-vs-storj-vs-maidsafe
[2017-02-10 06:00:35] irishsia : That thread might help
[2017-02-10 06:01:28] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Tick tock. 2 Hours til OKC settlement
[2017-02-10 06:02:19] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Ooooh yeah imma green machien
[2017-02-10 06:02:24] DorianWhack-A-Moto : *machine
[2017-02-10 06:05:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 1400 @ 6426.7
[2017-02-10 06:06:13] Raknid : how does okc settlement work
[2017-02-10 06:06:33] MikeHunt : Raknid: all positions are closed
[2017-02-10 06:06:45] MikeHunt : every friday at 8am UTC
[2017-02-10 06:06:54] Raknid : same as here at 4am?
[2017-02-10 06:07:00] Raknid : pst*
[2017-02-10 06:07:40] MikeHunt : dunno waht conversion is
[2017-02-10 06:07:57] Raknid : well its 10pm right now
[2017-02-10 06:08:08] MikeHunt : basically in 1hr 52m
[2017-02-10 06:08:19] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Raknid:http://getjumbucks.com/settlement/
[2017-02-10 06:09:51] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Wheres the bottom?
[2017-02-10 06:10:14] heheh lo : kinda of good volume, whats the situation now lol
[2017-02-10 06:11:44] Papou : do we test 880 support?
[2017-02-10 06:11:46] Papou : then go back to 1100?
[2017-02-10 06:12:28] Papou : choppy waters ahead boys
[2017-02-10 06:12:38] Papou : rektasaurus incoming
[2017-02-10 06:13:03] Papou : bobby lee is going to jail, btcc getting shut down and all btc frozen
[2017-02-10 06:13:08] Papou : news just posted
[2017-02-10 06:13:23] Papou : rekts incoming
[2017-02-10 06:13:25] DorianWhack-A-Moto : bobby lee going to jail? Source
[2017-02-10 06:14:30] DorianWhack-A-Moto : NVM - he's still active on twitter. He be fine.
[2017-02-10 06:15:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 186804 @ 941.77 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-02-10 06:15:49] Papou : ouch
[2017-02-10 06:16:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 541 @ 958.70
[2017-02-10 06:16:42] REKT : Close your longs, close your shorts, choppy waters ahead!
[2017-02-10 06:16:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2800 @ 958.78
[2017-02-10 06:16:47] MikeHunt : its begun
[2017-02-10 06:16:59] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Rebound!
[2017-02-10 06:17:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 12000 @ 953.31
[2017-02-10 06:17:05] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Or not lol
[2017-02-10 06:17:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 121999 @ 6290.8 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-02-10 06:17:25] VenCap : Time to go long guys?
[2017-02-10 06:17:46] DorianWhack-A-Moto : I'd long around 882 -888
[2017-02-10 06:18:23] DorianWhack-A-Moto : we may touch 880
[2017-02-10 06:18:24] MikeHunt : if it can hold
[2017-02-10 06:18:35] MikeHunt : 20000 btc of contracts on that wkly
[2017-02-10 06:18:57] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Dis gun be good
[2017-02-10 06:19:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 13400 @ 927.96
[2017-02-10 06:19:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 25198 @ 927.98
[2017-02-10 06:19:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 8782 @ 952.61
[2017-02-10 06:19:14] -_- : wow
[2017-02-10 06:19:20] sq : gg guys lol
[2017-02-10 06:19:25] -_- : i could have shorted more at 960 on that bounce
[2017-02-10 06:19:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 8000 @ 951.71
[2017-02-10 06:19:27] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 4444 @ 951.69
[2017-02-10 06:19:36] -_- : waiting for 6500 cny to go
[2017-02-10 06:19:42] heheh lo : dumpage
[2017-02-10 06:19:48] YOLOCOIN : SMASH DUMP LEL
[2017-02-10 06:19:50] YOLOCOIN : told you fools
[2017-02-10 06:20:01] -_- : $20 away from new lows xbth17
[2017-02-10 06:20:03] YOLOCOIN : dis gon be sub 900 ez
[2017-02-10 06:20:11] DorianWhack-A-Moto : YOLOCOIN: your timing is a lil off
[2017-02-10 06:20:23] heheh lo : DorianWhack-A-Moto: internet explorer
[2017-02-10 06:20:26] YOLOCOIN : well shoot it dumped without going up
[2017-02-10 06:20:52] YOLOCOIN : sub 900 ez
[2017-02-10 06:20:56] YOLOCOIN : bears win
[2017-02-10 06:21:02] MikeHunt : bellow 5300 cny and we have a problem
[2017-02-10 06:21:06] -_- : this goes sub 900 and then i'll be debt free mofos
[2017-02-10 06:21:18] YOLOCOIN : ez money
[2017-02-10 06:21:23] DorianWhack-A-Moto : This goes sub 900 im getting a long ready
[2017-02-10 06:21:23] VenCap : Bounce time
[2017-02-10 06:21:29] MikeHunt : support line for mean runs along 5300
[2017-02-10 06:21:29] YOLOCOIN : bears win
[2017-02-10 06:21:47] -_- : yeah i'll close short and long and be debt free + some money
[2017-02-10 06:21:57] sq : its really bearish lol
[2017-02-10 06:21:58] -_- : just gotta figure out how to sell
[2017-02-10 06:22:16] DorianWhack-A-Moto : -_-: sell for fiat?
[2017-02-10 06:22:21] -_- : yeah
[2017-02-10 06:22:40] -_- : just enough to pay off some debt and build up emergency fund
[2017-02-10 06:22:46] YOLOCOIN : this dump will end all pumps forever
[2017-02-10 06:22:50] YOLOCOIN : no more pumps
[2017-02-10 06:22:59] DorianWhack-A-Moto : -_-: Localbitcoins? find a trusted seller and meet at a cafe
[2017-02-10 06:23:07] -_- : good idea
[2017-02-10 06:23:10] -_- : straight cash homie
[2017-02-10 06:23:23] -_- : gotta meet at bank or some shit
[2017-02-10 06:23:25] -_- : dont want fake cash
[2017-02-10 06:23:29] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Yup straight cash is the way to go
[2017-02-10 06:23:29] rapidgains : rip
[2017-02-10 06:23:30] YOLOCOIN : just make sure you bring a gun just in case
[2017-02-10 06:23:31] jonny : cool i was just liquidated on CNY 6250 that is $908
[2017-02-10 06:23:55] -_- : nice okco1n going for it
[2017-02-10 06:24:02] -_- : 460 btc more to sell into
[2017-02-10 06:24:39] -_- : i was thinking localbitcoins and have someone deposit cash into my bank account
[2017-02-10 06:24:42] -_- : is that shady as fuck?
[2017-02-10 06:25:41] -_- : of course bots trying to get another bounce going
[2017-02-10 06:26:05] jonny : and bought it back at $902. wonders of bitmex, beaware
[2017-02-10 06:26:11] DorianWhack-A-Moto : -_-: Yeah you could do bank, just do your research on the seller. If they have legit high feedback, are verified etc you should have no problem
[2017-02-10 06:26:26] -_- : sweet
[2017-02-10 06:27:53] sq : cu guys at 800 rofl
[2017-02-10 06:28:09] MikeHunt : 5300 breaks and bull run over i think
[2017-02-10 06:29:31] YOLOCOIN : time to finish off the bulls
[2017-02-10 06:29:54] -_- : 5300 cny MikeHunt?
[2017-02-10 06:30:03] MikeHunt : -_-: yeh
[2017-02-10 06:30:17] -_- : i agree
[2017-02-10 06:30:51] -_- : if this is really bad then 2600 cny incoming
[2017-02-10 06:31:02] frosas : How do you make stops?
[2017-02-10 06:31:13] frosas : Nvm, i think i found it
[2017-02-10 06:31:19] -_- : i say 3000 cny is hella support but will overshoot
[2017-02-10 06:31:20] jonny : frosas: dont make stops, lose all your moneys
[2017-02-10 06:31:23] MikeHunt : -_-: http://i.imgur.com/P4ooyhH.png
[2017-02-10 06:31:23] VenCap : frosas: raise hand in air palm facing outwards and shout "Stop"
[2017-02-10 06:31:38] -_- : yeah MikeHunt
[2017-02-10 06:31:40] shery : omg -0.3535 so i have to pay 300 usd fck
[2017-02-10 06:31:42] -_- : and stops dont work here
[2017-02-10 06:31:51] -_- : i mean they do
[2017-02-10 06:31:59] -_- : but if you pick wrong price the order book may be empty
[2017-02-10 06:32:03] MikeHunt : shery: long?
[2017-02-10 06:32:06] -_- : and you get fucked
[2017-02-10 06:32:17] VenCap : support building
[2017-02-10 06:32:19] jonny : frosas: try $1 stop orders (or demo) trailing stops are neaaaatt
[2017-02-10 06:32:23] shery : MikeHunt: short but okc settelement is coming so thinking of closing!
[2017-02-10 06:32:38] -_- : okc quarterly pumped $20 what are they thinking
[2017-02-10 06:32:50] aandy : its at 967 on bitfinex or am i high
[2017-02-10 06:33:06] MikeHunt : shery: okc will cause dump imo
[2017-02-10 06:33:26] shery : MikeHunt: Do you think settlement will couse dump?
[2017-02-10 06:33:33] shery : cause*
[2017-02-10 06:33:43] MikeHunt : shery: 20k btc of contracts, probably mostly dead longs
[2017-02-10 06:33:47] MikeHunt : with margin
[2017-02-10 06:33:51] MikeHunt : lev*
[2017-02-10 06:34:30] MikeHunt : maybe shorts took it over, find out soon
[2017-02-10 06:35:18] irishsia : MikeHunt: How long til dump city?
[2017-02-10 06:35:31] jonny : im dizzy from winning bitcoin today, time to get back on the floor, withdraw some, donate some
[2017-02-10 06:36:03] MikeHunt : irishsia: 1hr 25m
[2017-02-10 06:36:42] irishsia : MikeHunt: My thoughts yesterday were that this would go to 880. Maybe that will push it
[2017-02-10 06:38:00] MikeHunt : im not sure
[2017-02-10 06:38:02] shery : MikeHunt: r u sure we will dump?
[2017-02-10 06:38:08] MikeHunt : not sure
[2017-02-10 06:38:23] DorianWhack-A-Moto : This could be the pre-settlement dump
[2017-02-10 06:38:30] YOLOCOIN : bulls are strong
[2017-02-10 06:38:34] MikeHunt : longs are majority according to top sentiment on okc
[2017-02-10 06:38:38] -_- : hopefully that dump to 6530 cny wasnt a triple bottom before the pump
[2017-02-10 06:38:39] YOLOCOIN : but they will be finished in time
[2017-02-10 06:39:22] DorianWhack-A-Moto : YOLOCOIN: you need to switch position. No good being a permabear. That said my short is doing well
[2017-02-10 06:39:35] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Switch position from time to tie
[2017-02-10 06:39:38] DorianWhack-A-Moto : *time
[2017-02-10 06:39:47] YOLOCOIN : i do
[2017-02-10 06:39:54] YOLOCOIN : sometimes im a bear sometimes im a bull
[2017-02-10 06:40:02] YOLOCOIN : but right now im a MEGABEAR
[2017-02-10 06:40:16] MikeHunt : im gonna sleep but be up for 8am
[2017-02-10 06:40:25] VenCap : Arize Rooster!
[2017-02-10 06:42:45] DylanT : why is the price index at $957?
[2017-02-10 06:42:57] -_- : because stamp
[2017-02-10 06:43:00] -_- : is higher than okco1n usd
[2017-02-10 06:43:29] -_- : 948 and 965
[2017-02-10 06:43:36] DylanT : is the index based on stamp and okc?
[2017-02-10 06:43:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 33794 @ 956.46
[2017-02-10 06:43:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 4000 @ 956.39
[2017-02-10 06:44:08] DylanT : Okcusd is irrelevant
[2017-02-10 06:44:22] VenCap : 970 on bitstamp just hit
[2017-02-10 06:44:25] -_- : people that trade here hedge there
[2017-02-10 06:44:39] -_- : i wonder if xmr and eth will be nice longs in a few hours after settlement
[2017-02-10 06:45:22] shery : -_-: No idea what will settlement bring!
[2017-02-10 06:45:25] -_- : anyways. i'll come back when 6500 cny breaks on okco1n
[2017-02-10 06:47:17] Yuppie : If I think about it now, what happened yesterday with ok quarterlies was much more massive than the new year dump
[2017-02-10 06:47:34] l3f : Closing long
[2017-02-10 06:47:39] l3f : Trade thesis invalidated
[2017-02-10 06:49:04] Yuppie : From a lets say beutral to moderately bullish sentiment
[2017-02-10 06:49:52] Yuppie : Sentiment seems very weak sice bew year dump, despite nearly moving to new highs
[2017-02-10 06:51:35] Yuppie : Anyone actually concerned about couns at OK Hong Kong?
[2017-02-10 06:51:40] Yuppie : coins...
[2017-02-10 06:52:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 50000 @ 6301.3 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-02-10 06:54:24] -_- : that didnt take long. 6500 almost broken
[2017-02-10 06:55:07] shery : 6500 seems strong!
[2017-02-10 06:55:15] -_- : 132 btc left
[2017-02-10 06:55:16] -_- : 46
[2017-02-10 06:55:39] -_- : awe 173 btc left now
[2017-02-10 06:55:50] -_- : whale battle
[2017-02-10 06:56:05] -_- : people want more of that stuff you cant withdraw
[2017-02-10 06:58:32] YOLOCOIN : LEWL
[2017-02-10 06:59:19] VenCap : tons of buys in the 960 range.
[2017-02-10 07:00:32] YOLOCOIN : they'll get dumped into
[2017-02-10 07:01:01] -_- : 1 hour till settlement
[2017-02-10 07:01:22] YOLOCOIN : prepare for fireworks
[2017-02-10 07:01:29] YOLOCOIN : btccny saves the best for last
[2017-02-10 07:02:26] rapidgains : strong? lol
[2017-02-10 07:02:41] Papou : i love how they said china influence is fading
[2017-02-10 07:02:41] Papou : LOL
[2017-02-10 07:02:46] Papou : rekt
[2017-02-10 07:02:53] Yuppie : Lol -0.35% funding
[2017-02-10 07:02:55] Papou : china so horny, china love u long time
[2017-02-10 07:03:11] Papou : whoever is shorting is crazy
[2017-02-10 07:03:31] CapitalGains : If there's a mod here - doesn't look like COIN_BH17 is taking enough margin on shorts.
[2017-02-10 07:03:33] YOLOCOIN : i shorted last night
[2017-02-10 07:03:38] YOLOCOIN : up 8 coins today
[2017-02-10 07:04:01] YOLOCOIN : bout to close my short thought
[2017-02-10 07:04:16] YOLOCOIN : bulls looking a lil strong atm
[2017-02-10 07:04:19] Yuppie : YOLOCOIN: must be a big ticket
[2017-02-10 07:09:40] DorianWhack-A-Moto : how low can we go!
[2017-02-10 07:12:36] YOLOCOIN : bulls held on for now
[2017-02-10 07:12:41] YOLOCOIN : maybe we'll try again tomorrow
[2017-02-10 07:13:15] -_- : dang china
[2017-02-10 07:13:19] -_- : 950 hit on xbth17
[2017-02-10 07:13:26] KyllingLolsson : I think there will be a drop within a day, but no major upswing, not more than 990
[2017-02-10 07:13:27] -_- : up $25
[2017-02-10 07:13:38] -_- : i wonder if i should have closed on that dip
[2017-02-10 07:13:54] YOLOCOIN : closing my short for a lil profit
[2017-02-10 07:14:04] YOLOCOIN : gotta sleep
[2017-02-10 07:14:10] -_- : low 900's may be the best we get
[2017-02-10 07:14:11] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 25550 @ 955.66
[2017-02-10 07:14:14] shery : YOLOCOIN: got scared
[2017-02-10 07:14:28] YOLOCOIN : breh i'm a bear
[2017-02-10 07:14:34] YOLOCOIN : but im not a rektless bear
[2017-02-10 07:14:41] YOLOCOIN : rawr
[2017-02-10 07:15:01] YOLOCOIN : happy trading
[2017-02-10 07:15:02] -_- : dunno why you'd defend 6500 cny