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[2017-02-10 02:07:47] MikeHunt : (4hr)
[2017-02-10 02:08:18] YOLOCOIN : incoming smash
[2017-02-10 02:09:07] paper : MikeHunt: got your buys in yet for that area?
[2017-02-10 02:09:27] YOLOCOIN : must hit 880
[2017-02-10 02:09:31] YOLOCOIN : has to
[2017-02-10 02:09:43] YOLOCOIN : the recovery so so weak right now
[2017-02-10 02:10:33] paper : the 880's don't have a lot of historical points to refer to. nothing like 780-800 which was epic resistance
[2017-02-10 02:10:51] paper : sry i meant the 800's don't have
[2017-02-10 02:13:12] MikeHunt : paper: ill set alarms around that area
[2017-02-10 02:13:20] YOLOCOIN : don't understand why people are so against shorting
[2017-02-10 02:13:29] YOLOCOIN : ez money by shorting
[2017-02-10 02:14:07] paper : MikeHunt: what do you think about the prospect of letting it drop to that then buy on the retest of slightly higher than that level
[2017-02-10 02:14:58] MikeHunt : paper: once my short is liberated ill be fomo-ing the bottoms
[2017-02-10 02:15:07] MikeHunt : (longing)
[2017-02-10 02:17:18] Sultan Pepper : Mikehunt: I hope you finally get to set your short free
[2017-02-10 02:17:46] Sultan Pepper : will you just close at break even, or are you gonna try to profit?
[2017-02-10 02:18:38] MikeHunt : Sultan Pepper: ty and im not sure yet, i want to see how this goes
[2017-02-10 02:19:22] paper : that's how to do it. it's not like the mkt cares where we opened
[2017-02-10 02:19:51] MikeHunt : i want to see how okc weekly settlement is handled (~8am utc)
[2017-02-10 02:19:58] YOLOCOIN : smash dump within 100 minutes
[2017-02-10 02:20:44] MikeHunt : i expect chinese exchanges to really try n butt fuck their international customers
[2017-02-10 02:20:49] MikeHunt : 1. they can get away with it
[2017-02-10 02:21:01] rapidgains : $$
[2017-02-10 02:21:08] MikeHunt : 2. on reddit there are threads of ppl who got liq-ed even thou market dropped a little on chart
[2017-02-10 02:21:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5000 @ 956.72
[2017-02-10 02:21:35] MikeHunt : once we get to bottom, they can turn on withdrawals and short squeeze
[2017-02-10 02:21:43] l3f : RIP longs
[2017-02-10 02:22:08] MikeHunt : rapidgains: oh yeh and $$$
[2017-02-10 02:22:24] DorianWhack-A-Moto : anyone wanna guess the bottom here?
[2017-02-10 02:23:15] Sultan Pepper : I tried that and lost
[2017-02-10 02:23:22] Sultan Pepper : so no :D
[2017-02-10 02:23:29] abbey : BOING
[2017-02-10 02:24:04] Secup : 850
[2017-02-10 02:24:14] l3f : Secup: 600
[2017-02-10 02:24:35] abbey : 1080
[2017-02-10 02:24:39] DorianWhack-A-Moto : 900
[2017-02-10 02:24:50] MikeHunt : maybe this... http://i.imgur.com/1tvTYYe.png
[2017-02-10 02:25:46] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Go back silly price - you cant touch my shorts
[2017-02-10 02:25:50] YOLOCOIN : shame on you if you got faked on that tiny bounce by finex
[2017-02-10 02:26:01] Secup : its friday , frozen btc, they all gonna sell to get extra $ on w-e :D
[2017-02-10 02:26:20] DorianWhack-A-Moto : its 2-4-1 at the Shanghai bar
[2017-02-10 02:26:45] abbey : YOLOCOIN: moon
[2017-02-10 02:26:53] MikeHunt : weekend bull blood bath? cool
[2017-02-10 02:26:59] Secup : rofl
[2017-02-10 02:27:05] YOLOCOIN : abbey: SMASH
[2017-02-10 02:27:27] DorianWhack-A-Moto : YOLOCOIN: where's the 880 you promised me?
[2017-02-10 02:27:32] YOLOCOIN : the next dump will end all dumps and sell all bulls straight to goblin town
[2017-02-10 02:27:55] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Goblin town? Is that New Zealand?
[2017-02-10 02:27:55] MikeHunt : also we dont know what the new AML/KYC checks will be like
[2017-02-10 02:28:03] MikeHunt : naturally PBoC wants no capital flight
[2017-02-10 02:29:31] -_- : Someone interested in buying on okco1n
[2017-02-10 02:30:09] -_- : Sideways or slightly up for now unless big sellers show up
[2017-02-10 02:31:36] MikeHunt : -_-: the weekys will prob provide selling power for next 7.5hrs
[2017-02-10 02:31:39] MikeHunt : as they panic and fomo
[2017-02-10 02:36:04] -_- : Xbth17 market maker still mia
[2017-02-10 02:36:15] chatTroll : how can you tell?
[2017-02-10 02:36:33] -_- : Ghost town
[2017-02-10 02:36:48] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Need larger swings
[2017-02-10 02:36:51] -_- : I can move the price $20 either way myself
[2017-02-10 02:37:29] rapidtrades : man its nice coming back from a shower and seeing price down $3 isntead of up $3
[2017-02-10 02:37:44] rapidtrades : sentiment changed a lot since yday, that uptrend was brutal
[2017-02-10 02:38:21] l3f : le-shit-the-bed-coin
[2017-02-10 02:38:33] abbey : rapidtrades: u will be all sweaty again soon
[2017-02-10 02:38:39] l3f : Oh new PBoC interventions
[2017-02-10 02:38:42] l3f : better shit the bed
[2017-02-10 02:38:50] l3f : I'm still long from 970 btw
[2017-02-10 02:38:53] l3f : not closing until stop hit
[2017-02-10 02:39:44] rapidtrades : abbey: well i am seeing ur mom later so...
[2017-02-10 02:39:46] Sultan Pepper : Please don't bring up shitting the bed. It's a delicate subject for me
[2017-02-10 02:40:06] MikeHunt : l3f: on 1hr it looks falling wedge, u should get out with profit, unless it drops through it
[2017-02-10 02:40:13] abbey : rapidtrades: sweating already.. take a new shower, a cool one.
[2017-02-10 02:43:48] l3f : MikeHunt: I don't believe in falling wedges
[2017-02-10 02:44:30] DorianWhack-A-Moto : gah! I'm red
[2017-02-10 02:44:53] abbey : i'm green
[2017-02-10 02:45:03] DorianWhack-A-Moto : im green (with envy)
[2017-02-10 02:45:03] j8 : you're both purplish
[2017-02-10 02:45:12] abbey : lol
[2017-02-10 02:45:30] abbey : and you are green sir
[2017-02-10 02:45:41] MikeHunt : l3f: it went up on okc out of the 'wedge'
[2017-02-10 02:45:50] j8 : tell that to my pnl :)
[2017-02-10 02:46:02] MikeHunt : are you guys on h17?
[2017-02-10 02:46:06] MikeHunt : or swap?
[2017-02-10 02:46:12] l3f : Anyways all my indicators say this bottom will hold
[2017-02-10 02:46:13] abbey : j8: uh, darn
[2017-02-10 02:46:15] chatTroll : is this the right link for the bitcoin index?
[2017-02-10 02:46:15] chatTroll : http://bitmex.kaiko.com/
[2017-02-10 02:46:19] chatTroll : it doesn't load for me
[2017-02-10 02:46:20] l3f : and daily will end with a pipe
[2017-02-10 02:46:35] DorianWhack-A-Moto : l3f: my day will end with a pipe too
[2017-02-10 02:46:49] DorianWhack-A-Moto : truth be told it started with one
[2017-02-10 02:46:59] l3f : DorianWhack-A-Moto: heh
[2017-02-10 02:47:35] DorianWhack-A-Moto : 420 - just to be clear
[2017-02-10 02:48:32] abbey : MikeHunt: both
[2017-02-10 02:48:54] abbey : +XBCH17
[2017-02-10 02:49:22] DorianWhack-A-Moto : watching my position is like watching paint dry. Move dammit. Either way i dont care. Just need a big movement
[2017-02-10 02:49:49] Noobz : yup it is a bit slow
[2017-02-10 02:50:31] MikeHunt : l3f: problem with TA is that it doesnt take into account okc settlement
[2017-02-10 02:50:40] DorianWhack-A-Moto : we need 2013 back. Daily swings of hundreds of dollars
[2017-02-10 02:50:52] MikeHunt : 8am all weekly's get liq-ed, may panic sell b4 then
[2017-02-10 02:51:22] l3f : MikeHunt: good think half of the indicator is stamp
[2017-02-10 02:51:25] l3f : thing*
[2017-02-10 02:51:30] l3f : half of the index is stamp*
[2017-02-10 02:52:11] YOLOCOIN : incoming smash
[2017-02-10 02:52:16] MikeHunt : l3f: h17 seems to be uber bearish so hopefully go down enough to get out my short
[2017-02-10 02:52:51] j8 : uber bearish? i dunno about that
[2017-02-10 02:52:57] Ugly_Old_Goat : ok selll off should be done, perp shorts need to cover or pay
[2017-02-10 02:54:33] YOLOCOIN : need to sell a bit more so shorts can close and open longs to collect funds
[2017-02-10 02:55:03] j8 : already did that at 930
[2017-02-10 02:55:49] abbey : smash it to the floor yolo!
[2017-02-10 02:56:05] YOLOCOIN : incoming smash
[2017-02-10 02:56:16] micmix : uber bearish is -50% pa, this is nothing
[2017-02-10 02:56:23] abbey : im cleaning my moonboots
[2017-02-10 02:56:44] DorianWhack-A-Moto : markets not really bullish or bearish right now. its beaverish
[2017-02-10 02:57:02] micmix : Canadian beavers ftw!
[2017-02-10 02:57:03] YOLOCOIN : oh its bear alright
[2017-02-10 02:57:07] j8 : yep, okc quarterly is at -75% pa
[2017-02-10 02:57:21] YOLOCOIN : okc and kraken shat their pants
[2017-02-10 02:57:56] YOLOCOIN : immediate finex sell walls LOL
[2017-02-10 02:58:20] j8 : when h17 was $15 above spot, was that uber bullish?
[2017-02-10 02:59:32] MikeHunt : j8: perhaps the caffeine has made me uber paranoid
[2017-02-10 02:59:32] MikeHunt : ;)
[2017-02-10 03:00:06] Secup : Geez, not crashed yet
[2017-02-10 03:00:18] Secup : Bored watching this
[2017-02-10 03:00:34] j8 : relax, zoom out, persevere
[2017-02-10 03:02:55] Sultan Pepper : Btc-Noob?
[2017-02-10 03:03:37] YOLOCOIN : here it comes
[2017-02-10 03:03:48] DorianWhack-A-Moto : I hope you're right
[2017-02-10 03:04:02] DorianWhack-A-Moto : I need to take a dump of my own
[2017-02-10 03:04:20] DorianWhack-A-Moto : I'll just leave this short here...and go take care of biznezz
[2017-02-10 03:04:24] MikeHunt : still has quite a lot of headroom to go up
[2017-02-10 03:04:43] rapidtrades : longs are so bad at math they fomo preceding any funding
[2017-02-10 03:04:47] abbey : YOLOCOIN: what? where?
[2017-02-10 03:05:03] abbey : i only see full moon
[2017-02-10 03:05:14] rapidtrades : i bet u do
[2017-02-10 03:05:16] YOLOCOIN : abbey: almost
[2017-02-10 03:05:18] degen : funding is too high on perpetual, why don't more people play 17?
[2017-02-10 03:05:34] rapidtrades : cos its $14 below index?
[2017-02-10 03:05:46] degen : seems like a good deal
[2017-02-10 03:05:54] degen : if you want to go long that is
[2017-02-10 03:06:10] rapidtrades : but funding pays longs stupid
[2017-02-10 03:06:35] degen : for now
[2017-02-10 03:06:36] abbey : rapidtrades: i bet u don't even know where to watch
[2017-02-10 03:07:20] rapidtrades : abbey: i just watched ur mum's porn collection
[2017-02-10 03:07:41] abbey : YOLOCOIN: u really sure?
[2017-02-10 03:07:49] YOLOCOIN : ye
[2017-02-10 03:08:06] abbey : rapidtrades: so?
[2017-02-10 03:08:27] abbey : liked it?
[2017-02-10 03:08:42] rapidtrades : yes
[2017-02-10 03:08:57] rapidtrades : she was starring in it btw
[2017-02-10 03:09:13] abbey : go to shower @rapidtrades
[2017-02-10 03:09:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 64 @ 6502.3
[2017-02-10 03:10:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5120 @ 971.34
[2017-02-10 03:10:25] abbey : u sweaty empty pocket pervert @rapidtrades
[2017-02-10 03:10:58] abbey : happy trading yolo and rapid
[2017-02-10 03:11:01] j8 : did someone just get ADL'd for 64 contracts on XBC
[2017-02-10 03:11:26] rapidtrades : abbey: lol u mad bra
[2017-02-10 03:11:36] j8 : 0.5% maintenance margin and 3% spread...
[2017-02-10 03:11:45] YOLOCOIN : you too breh
[2017-02-10 03:11:45] rapidtrades : u should've headed my warning
[2017-02-10 03:11:47] abbey : no, smiling at u
[2017-02-10 03:11:50] YOLOCOIN : incoming smash
[2017-02-10 03:12:19] j8 : if you say it every 10 minutes eventually you might be right
[2017-02-10 03:12:26] abbey : u guys r broken records
[2017-02-10 03:12:32] rapidtrades : next time heed my warning b1tch
[2017-02-10 03:12:34] YOLOCOIN : just warning you breh
[2017-02-10 03:12:40] YOLOCOIN : gon smash
[2017-02-10 03:12:55] Ugly_Old_Goat : cover your short or pay me. Either one is fne
[2017-02-10 03:13:12] rapidtrades : i'll pay 0.21% to get out at 880 tnx
[2017-02-10 03:13:14] Ugly_Old_Goat : I bot the dip
[2017-02-10 03:13:22] rapidtrades : u do the math on thta one
[2017-02-10 03:13:27] DCCinvestor : Can someone explain what happens when funding happens at 8?
[2017-02-10 03:13:53] Ugly_Old_Goat : Long get paid
[2017-02-10 03:14:00] Ugly_Old_Goat : By the shorts
[2017-02-10 03:14:07] DCCinvestor : that's it?
[2017-02-10 03:14:10] YOLOCOIN : smash within 46 minutes
[2017-02-10 03:14:17] Ugly_Old_Goat : The last dip was a no brainer buy
[2017-02-10 03:14:29] rapidtrades : oh fosho
[2017-02-10 03:14:30] DCCinvestor : right? Goat
[2017-02-10 03:14:41] YOLOCOIN : don't say i didn't warn you
[2017-02-10 03:14:45] MikeHunt : MACD looks like inverted H&S
[2017-02-10 03:15:29] Ugly_Old_Goat : Yup added mach at 938 to what I bot at 950. Sold out the 950 . Free ride from here
[2017-02-10 03:15:58] rapidtrades : KILL BITCORNS
[2017-02-10 03:16:01] rapidtrades : DO IT NAO
[2017-02-10 03:16:36] rapidtrades : i think okc wil try to keep prices high until settlement
[2017-02-10 03:16:40] Ugly_Old_Goat : Also added some perp at 954 just to get higher pay day
[2017-02-10 03:16:48] rapidtrades : but the stop selling will overwhelm us
[2017-02-10 03:16:58] rapidtrades : spot*
[2017-02-10 03:17:12] rapidtrades : u can't stop the spot floodgate
[2017-02-10 03:17:29] rapidtrades : prices could halve in china, easily
[2017-02-10 03:18:00] Ugly_Old_Goat : Fine stay short, just pay me please
[2017-02-10 03:18:28] micmix : collecting funding with unhedged position is like snatching pennies in front of a steamroller
[2017-02-10 03:18:37] rapidtrades : no its cool
[2017-02-10 03:18:41] MikeHunt : if we hit 920.... http://movieweb.com/movie/titanic/split/
[2017-02-10 03:18:43] rapidtrades : leave them be
[2017-02-10 03:18:59] Ugly_Old_Goat : Next pay day is max, the one after that should also be at at max. Keep the btc coming to pay me boys
[2017-02-10 03:19:26] rapidtrades : why would the next be at max dum dum? we're ot at discount
[2017-02-10 03:21:07] Ugly_Old_Goat : That is why it will be at max. March is discount. Perp with current payout is better thanb march.
[2017-02-10 03:23:18] Ugly_Old_Goat : Do the math, you get 100% in less than 100 days at .375
[2017-02-10 03:23:30] Ugly_Old_Goat : Not chicken feed
[2017-02-10 03:24:01] Ugly_Old_Goat : The market will go up because it is the best bargain around for those who want btc
[2017-02-10 03:24:22] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: that pressumes the current mean stays the same
[2017-02-10 03:24:27] MikeHunt : even if it does
[2017-02-10 03:24:31] MikeHunt : lot of issues ahead
[2017-02-10 03:25:12] Ugly_Old_Goat : well it won't but so long as it does it is better than March. But March is good too
[2017-02-10 03:26:01] Ugly_Old_Goat : Look, this is just a washout. Done this before.. We must do this to go up, Any buyer here will do just fine so lon as they do not margin
[2017-02-10 03:26:29] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: we still have okc weekly dump
[2017-02-10 03:26:31] MikeHunt : 8am
[2017-02-10 03:26:39] Ugly_Old_Goat : But if you know hat you are doing it is a good spec buy here just as it was a good spec selll yesterday
[2017-02-10 03:26:50] Ugly_Old_Goat : Buy low, sell high
[2017-02-10 03:27:40] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: I pay no attention to those things but willing to listen, Explain please
[2017-02-10 03:28:21] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: on okc you have weekly settlements at 8am UTC on friday
[2017-02-10 03:28:33] MikeHunt : as the market has tanked a lot
[2017-02-10 03:28:45] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Think we're at the top
[2017-02-10 03:28:46] MikeHunt : in the run up to settlement, ppl can either wait for liq, or fomo out now
[2017-02-10 03:29:08] MikeHunt : i expect a lot of corpses upto and around 8am
[2017-02-10 03:29:14] Ugly_Old_Goat : so what?
[2017-02-10 03:29:36] MikeHunt : i suspect if there is no major buy up of new weeklys ppl will sell
[2017-02-10 03:29:44] MikeHunt : + you have all the liq selling
[2017-02-10 03:30:03] rapidtrades : why does amending my sell to a higher price give me alert
[2017-02-10 03:30:06] MikeHunt : ppl who longed with margin, clinging on to loosing positions
[2017-02-10 03:30:17] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: what sort of alert?
[2017-02-10 03:30:27] rapidtrades : 'it may execute bla blaah'
[2017-02-10 03:30:28] degen : I guess I'm the only bullish person here
[2017-02-10 03:31:07] rapidtrades : oh less the only one
[2017-02-10 03:31:12] MikeHunt : degen: personally i'd BTFD at resistance points, if u wanna be bullish
[2017-02-10 03:31:13] rapidtrades : yes *
[2017-02-10 03:31:30] j8 : rapidtrades: i just told sam about that bug
[2017-02-10 03:31:44] j8 : it uses the price from the current contract, not the one you're amending
[2017-02-10 03:31:54] rapidtrades : ahhhh
[2017-02-10 03:31:56] degen : MikeHunt: we're bounding off of the fib
[2017-02-10 03:32:14] rapidtrades : j8: so safe to amend then?
[2017-02-10 03:32:18] DorianWhack-A-Moto : whens settlement on OKC?
[2017-02-10 03:32:37] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: Point is the market has only moved 10 during the past hour while this market has moved 30, so that is where you can do well
[2017-02-10 03:32:48] j8 : rapidtrades: yeah it's just a UI thing. double check it and you're fine
[2017-02-10 03:33:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 500 @ 955.41
[2017-02-10 03:33:37] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: short term wave riding is cool
[2017-02-10 03:33:47] degen : REKT: how did that happen?
[2017-02-10 03:33:57] BitMEX_Sam : j8: rapidtrades: This is fixed in Testnet and will come here soon
[2017-02-10 03:34:05] rapidtrades : ok tnx
[2017-02-10 03:34:07] j8 : nice.
[2017-02-10 03:34:31] BitMEX_Sam : Testnet also (finally) has an expandable orderbook, excited to have that hit prod.
[2017-02-10 03:34:44] dodic : BitMEX_Sam: sweet
[2017-02-10 03:35:14] Ugly_Old_Goat : Look for major pop on upside
[2017-02-10 03:36:33] Ugly_Old_Goat : Prbably most of the seloff will be corrected tonight. The funding is a big incentive
[2017-02-10 03:36:53] rapidtrades : lol goat
[2017-02-10 03:37:13] YOLOCOIN : INCOMING SMASH
[2017-02-10 03:37:58] MikeHunt : http://i.imgur.com/sOZMDrr.png
[2017-02-10 03:38:47] abbey : YOLOCOIN: stop yelling, we are on our way to the moon and beyond.
[2017-02-10 03:39:23] YOLOCOIN : LOL NEVERMIND
[2017-02-10 03:39:28] YOLOCOIN : im covering my short here
[2017-02-10 03:39:33] startChat : BitMEX_Sam: the orderbook you mean being able to see more orders when you expand the orderbook window?
[2017-02-10 03:39:35] YOLOCOIN : in 5 minutes
[2017-02-10 03:39:42] rapidtrades : BAN ABBEY FOR IRRATIONAL EXUBERANCE
[2017-02-10 03:39:52] MikeHunt : abbey: 80k ?
[2017-02-10 03:39:59] BitMEX_Sam : startChat: Yes
[2017-02-10 03:40:04] BitMEX_Sam : As in, when you resize it
[2017-02-10 03:40:15] startChat : hilarious, i was just coming into chat to ask for that
[2017-02-10 03:40:23] BitMEX_Sam : You're far from the first one
[2017-02-10 03:40:35] startChat : :thumbsup:
[2017-02-10 03:41:10] startChat : BitMEX_Sam: Will there be some kind of report with the LTC incident?
[2017-02-10 03:41:24] abbey : butthurt so much need yo yell boys?
[2017-02-10 03:41:49] abbey : *to
[2017-02-10 03:42:00] rapidtrades : abbey ur butt is about to get cracked for a second time today
[2017-02-10 03:42:34] Ugly_Old_Goat : Yes what happened there? LTC?
[2017-02-10 03:43:13] Ugly_Old_Goat : I notice the same thing has happened in Factorm
[2017-02-10 03:43:21] abbey : rapidtrades: ur wrong, my butts just fine
[2017-02-10 03:43:30] micmix : I came up with a new indicator: whenever BitMEX announces maintenance, expect extreme volatility and maintenance postponed ;-)
[2017-02-10 03:43:46] rapidtrades : hope so
[2017-02-10 03:43:58] rapidtrades : extreme volatility=extreme profits
[2017-02-10 03:44:26] micmix : yep, my bots made over 10% today and the day is not over yet
[2017-02-10 03:44:48] rapidtrades : 10% on what
[2017-02-10 03:45:04] MikeHunt : also its weekend so no new fiat
[2017-02-10 03:45:44] micmix : rapidtrades: 10% of all my trading capital
[2017-02-10 03:46:13] rapidtrades : wow...the entire capital or just what u have deposited here?
[2017-02-10 03:49:18] micmix : 10% of all trading capital deposited on exchanges (except capital on okc to keep okc hedges). didn't check bitmex numbers but should be close to 10% too
[2017-02-10 03:49:59] rapidtrades : nice
[2017-02-10 03:50:00] j8 : badass. was it trading okc quarterly @micmix
[2017-02-10 03:50:22] micmix : yes, hedges were on weekly by-weekly
[2017-02-10 03:50:31] micmix : *biweekly
[2017-02-10 03:50:45] j8 : pretty insane volatility over there
[2017-02-10 03:51:28] micmix : yeah, crazy day
[2017-02-10 03:51:44] rapidtrades : haven't seen anything yet
[2017-02-10 03:52:15] rapidtrades : they will drop the support post settlement
[2017-02-10 03:52:44] j8 : before today i think the record quarterly discount was like -5%.. it hit -25%
[2017-02-10 03:53:01] rapidtrades : btcc trading $10 above others cos they didn't stop withdrawals
[2017-02-10 03:56:06] rapidtrades : bobby lee needs to open his big mouth about the withdrawls
[2017-02-10 03:56:26] ThruTheFloor : They did. For 72 hours.
[2017-02-10 03:56:41] rapidtrades : what do u eamn
[2017-02-10 03:57:19] ThruTheFloor : BTCC just suspended withdrawals for 72 hours. No BTC withdrawals available on the three major exchanges in China now
[2017-02-10 03:57:51] Ugly_Old_Goat : Payday in 2 minutes
[2017-02-10 03:58:07] rapidtrades : ThruTheFloor: wow
[2017-02-10 03:58:41] MikeHunt : i said it would come
[2017-02-10 03:58:42] MikeHunt : BTCC
[2017-02-10 03:58:43] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Ugly_Old_Goat: what happens in 2 minutes?
[2017-02-10 03:58:55] j8 : PayDay
[2017-02-10 03:59:02] Ugly_Old_Goat : I get paid
[2017-02-10 03:59:04] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Are chinese traders going to come here?
[2017-02-10 03:59:10] Ugly_Old_Goat : Paid for being long
[2017-02-10 03:59:15] Capo_Pitbull : Folks, all bitcoin withdrawals from exchanges in China have been halted
[2017-02-10 03:59:19] Capo_Pitbull : So there's no selling happening
[2017-02-10 03:59:38] MikeHunt : Capo_Pitbull: they can withdraw fiat
[2017-02-10 03:59:45] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Capo_Pitbull: bitcoin withdrawals. Can still withdraw YUAN so they can sell
[2017-02-10 04:00:28] MikeHunt : in fact current situation encourages selling
[2017-02-10 04:00:45] Capo_Pitbull : Thanks, sorry, new to this
[2017-02-10 04:00:59] MikeHunt : Capo_Pitbull: follow cnledger on twitter
[2017-02-10 04:01:06] Capo_Pitbull : Cool
[2017-02-10 04:01:10] DorianWhack-A-Moto : encouraged selling so much hence the dump
[2017-02-10 04:01:29] MikeHunt : Capo_Pitbull: and BitcoinWeibo
[2017-02-10 04:01:42] MikeHunt : DorianWhack-A-Moto: yup
[2017-02-10 04:03:01] thefool : so could i buy bitcoin here and then deposit in the Chinese exchanges for instant profit?
[2017-02-10 04:03:22] rapidtrades : sounds like a foolproof plan
[2017-02-10 04:03:30] rapidtrades : emphasis on fool
[2017-02-10 04:03:42] DorianWhack-A-Moto : proof of a fool
[2017-02-10 04:04:00] thefool : explain to me where i'm wrong
[2017-02-10 04:04:15] DorianWhack-A-Moto : thefool: the part where you send btc to chinese excahanges
[2017-02-10 04:04:32] thefool : that would be a bad idea? or just not currently possible?
[2017-02-10 04:04:55] j8 : do you have a chinese bank account?
[2017-02-10 04:05:06] j8 : can you buy bitcoins on bitmex?
[2017-02-10 04:05:20] DorianWhack-A-Moto : You can't withdraw your bitcoin back out and its not clear if a foreigner could even withdraw fiat
[2017-02-10 04:06:03] DorianWhack-A-Moto : in the midst of an AML/KYC crackdown. Why would you want to send to China?
[2017-02-10 04:06:28] rapidtrades : the why is in the username
[2017-02-10 04:06:43] thefool : i dont think you guys like me very much
[2017-02-10 04:07:18] j8 : we just want to learn how to instant profit
[2017-02-10 04:08:05] j8 : step 1. buy bitcoins with bitcoins
[2017-02-10 04:08:12] j8 : step 2. sell for CNY
[2017-02-10 04:08:18] j8 : step 3. ???
[2017-02-10 04:08:51] thefool : in other news though the FCC is almost certainly going to approve the winklevoss ETF
[2017-02-10 04:08:57] DorianWhack-A-Moto : step 1. wake up
[2017-02-10 04:09:01] DorianWhack-A-Moto : step 2 ????
[2017-02-10 04:09:04] DorianWhack-A-Moto : step 3 profit
[2017-02-10 04:09:08] dodic : I think you are all ruining what could have been a great learning experience for @thefool
[2017-02-10 04:09:29] thefool : I'm genuinely trying to learn
[2017-02-10 04:09:35] rapidtrades : hey so to correctly calculate my exposure in BTC terms, do i use the value based on current price or the price at the time of entry
[2017-02-10 04:09:48] DorianWhack-A-Moto : dodic: its like showing up to a brothel, handing over money and asking the gal "so, why are we here?"
[2017-02-10 04:10:02] dodic : lol
[2017-02-10 04:10:38] thefool : i know pretty much nothing more than your average laymen. I want to understand how these exchanges are traded and how prices vary between exchanges. Someone said their "bot" made them 10% today. How is that possible?
[2017-02-10 04:10:45] DorianWhack-A-Moto : thefool: ETF isn't certain. I'm hoping it gets approved but more chance it won't
[2017-02-10 04:10:58] arbitrage101 : run out of trading capital
[2017-02-10 04:11:00] arbitrage101 : how sad
[2017-02-10 04:11:02] rapidtrades : thefool: https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/COIN_BH17
[2017-02-10 04:11:04] j8 : rapidtrades: current price. your position gets bigger when the price is down
[2017-02-10 04:11:09] arbitrage101 : need spread to reverse
[2017-02-10 04:11:11] j8 : in btc terms
[2017-02-10 04:11:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 3000 @ 968.80
[2017-02-10 04:11:27] dodic : thefool: Anything very obvious is probably not what it seems
[2017-02-10 04:12:05] MikeHunt : thefool: ETF has very low chance
[2017-02-10 04:12:14] thefool : if you buy the "COIN" contract at lets say 33.30- if it went up to $40 would i 100% be able to sell it?
[2017-02-10 04:12:21] Avalanche : okc 963.54, stamp 981.52, mark price should be 972.4 but it's 4$ lower why ?
[2017-02-10 04:13:13] MikeHunt : Avalanche: index = multiple currencies
[2017-02-10 04:13:26] j8 : wut
[2017-02-10 04:14:03] Papou : anyone trade altcoins here?
[2017-02-10 04:14:04] rapidtrades : f*Ck this going to bed
[2017-02-10 04:14:07] dodic : thefool: only if someone is willing to buy from you at that price.
[2017-02-10 04:14:20] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: set alarm for 7:59
[2017-02-10 04:14:28] j8 : Avalanche: the index price is 971.7, the mark price is a bit lower because there's a funding rate component that decays over 8 hours
[2017-02-10 04:14:56] Avalanche : j8: ok
[2017-02-10 04:15:09] Avalanche : j8: tnx
[2017-02-10 04:15:13] j8 : np
[2017-02-10 04:16:39] MikeHunt : 200k contracts on okc weekly
[2017-02-10 04:18:49] Papou : are we going up or down
[2017-02-10 04:19:40] MikeHunt : Papou: probably see at 8am
[2017-02-10 04:19:46] MikeHunt : how many okc weeklys are red
[2017-02-10 04:19:54] MikeHunt : ~20000 BTC worth of contracts
[2017-02-10 04:22:13] rapidtrades : whats more lkely, chinese exchanges stopping withdrawals to implement AML, or stopping withdrawals to halt the exodus of money after they removed margin trading
[2017-02-10 04:22:49] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: AML is the excuse
[2017-02-10 04:22:58] MikeHunt : hording cash is the reason
[2017-02-10 04:23:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 65 @ 6532.5
[2017-02-10 04:23:05] YOLOCOIN : they are illiquid
[2017-02-10 04:23:07] MikeHunt : but maybe im being pesimistic...
[2017-02-10 04:23:33] rapidtrades : okc is super shady
[2017-02-10 04:24:34] rapidtrades : but maybe they're not insolvent cos they're been running in house bots
[2017-02-10 04:25:19] rapidtrades : being China tho, odds are some are insolvent
[2017-02-10 04:25:43] rapidtrades : guess we'll see which ones soon
[2017-02-10 04:28:02] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: maybe they all made a backroom deal
[2017-02-10 04:28:10] MikeHunt : coordinate news so they can ride the dumps
[2017-02-10 04:28:28] MikeHunt : then wen its settled, pump to short squeeze
[2017-02-10 04:37:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 18606 @ 970.10
[2017-02-10 04:37:13] heheh lo : here comes rekt
[2017-02-10 04:37:16] j8 : bitmex tab is using tons of cpu, i wonder what changed
[2017-02-10 04:38:01] Papou : dump it down to 965
[2017-02-10 04:38:04] Papou : scoop me up on the train
[2017-02-10 04:38:17] BitMEX_Sam : j8: I've seen the chart get a bit out of control
[2017-02-10 04:38:29] j8 : mine's disabled
[2017-02-10 04:38:47] BitMEX_Sam : Hmm. I'm at about 25% from the task manager- what does yours show?
[2017-02-10 04:38:59] j8 : 80-120%
[2017-02-10 04:39:05] BitMEX_Sam : And do you have devtools open? That slows it down quite a bit
[2017-02-10 04:39:26] j8 : nope
[2017-02-10 04:39:38] BitMEX_Sam : If you have the time, recording a profile and emailing it to me would be very helpful
[2017-02-10 04:39:47] BitMEX_Sam : Just be sure to zip it - they get huge
[2017-02-10 04:45:50] heheh lo : can we see 880 within next week?
[2017-02-10 04:47:26] MikeHunt : heheh lo: mayb in a few hrs
[2017-02-10 04:48:32] heheh lo : MikeHunt: lol, then probably it will shoot up fast.. irrational market?
[2017-02-10 04:49:54] j8 : BitMEX_Sam: done
[2017-02-10 04:52:20] MikeHunt : heheh lo: well 20k btc settlement in a few hrs
[2017-02-10 04:52:26] MikeHunt : i suspect many were margined longs
[2017-02-10 04:52:32] micmix : j8: btw, wanted to ask if you are trading on quoine or bitflyer. need a replacement for cny markets
[2017-02-10 04:52:35] MikeHunt : so atm they'd be in negative
[2017-02-10 04:53:16] j8 : micmix: i'm not, but also maybe looking into it
[2017-02-10 04:53:54] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks @j8
[2017-02-10 04:54:54] micmix : j8: I lost over half of income after pulling out of all cny markets. counterparty risk for okc international is getting uncomfortable high too :-(
[2017-02-10 04:56:11] MikeHunt : looking through market depth
[2017-02-10 04:56:18] MikeHunt : really not much stopping this dumping
[2017-02-10 04:56:30] MikeHunt : if okc's wklys are negative
[2017-02-10 04:57:03] DorianWhack-A-Moto : 3 hours til OKC settlement.
[2017-02-10 05:01:08] j8 : micmix: yeah i'm thinking the same about okc.com. sleger trades at quoine, it sounds like their trading engine is pretty messed up
[2017-02-10 05:01:57] j8 : which i think explains some of the crazy wicks they've had
[2017-02-10 05:02:12] j8 : but it's probably a goldmine for botting
[2017-02-10 05:02:42] micmix : yeah, i noticed some weirdness in quoine market data
[2017-02-10 05:02:54] j8 : that's putting it lightly
[2017-02-10 05:03:53] j8 : i guess it is 20x spot also
[2017-02-10 05:04:09] j8 : or 25 maybe
[2017-02-10 05:04:15] micmix : 25x afaik
[2017-02-10 05:05:08] j8 : yep. lets see what the lending depth is like
[2017-02-10 05:06:21] arbitrage101 : any reason why okc internation counter party risk is high?
[2017-02-10 05:06:24] MikeHunt : okc wkly, 20k contracts, assuming all long, at least -400CNY gap between ~8am price and 7 days ago, ~6% loss, so minimum 1200BTC drop mayb
[2017-02-10 05:06:35] j8 : if i can figure their ui out...
[2017-02-10 05:07:07] micmix : https://api.quoine.com/ir_ladders/USD ?
[2017-02-10 05:10:13] micmix : arbitrage101: same owners as okc china, and PBoC have enough muscle to close okc international if they decide to
[2017-02-10 05:11:00] heheh lo : that squeeze dump tho
[2017-02-10 05:12:36] MikeHunt : micmix: isnt that USD only thou so pboc dont care?
[2017-02-10 05:12:50] aethlios : micmix: Hi, I use okcoin int. do you think they manipulated march to margin call clients??
[2017-02-10 05:13:09] MikeHunt : aethlios: https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/5t226f/okcoin_future_market_manipulation_liquidated_at/
[2017-02-10 05:14:22] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1800 @ 975.15
[2017-02-10 05:15:25] micmix : aethlios: it's impossible to say. maybe it was them, maybe it was sell pressure pushing the price down
[2017-02-10 05:16:13] aethlios : micmix: they must be running bots to margin call customers. bitmex here same product stayed 200 usd above.
[2017-02-10 05:16:37] j8 : interesting how okc futures has become so disconnected from every other market though
[2017-02-10 05:17:16] j8 : their quarterly is $70 lower than here
[2017-02-10 05:17:49] aethlios : okcoin march was weird all the up movement, they lost in 3 hours a 30 days 370 usd move.
[2017-02-10 05:18:13] trat : Can u move stop losses on the chart?
[2017-02-10 05:18:18] trat : or see
[2017-02-10 05:18:51] aethlios : j8: reached 200 usd below bitmex march, MM's here stopped following okcoin, I am thinking if i should stop using them (or reduce capital a lot)
[2017-02-10 05:19:16] Sultan Pepper : Trat: use a trailing stip
[2017-02-10 05:19:28] Sultan Pepper : stop*
[2017-02-10 05:20:27] aethlios : Can't think one player keeps march 100 usd below index now.
[2017-02-10 05:21:08] Sultan Pepper : Btc-noob: you here?
[2017-02-10 05:21:22] j8 : aethlios: yeah, they reduced my capital for me, so that works out i guess
[2017-02-10 05:22:53] Yuppie : Had an interesting day yest at OK
[2017-02-10 05:23:17] Yuppie : may LTC quarterly longs got whiped out
[2017-02-10 05:23:49] Yuppie : was trading up to 25% discount to spot
[2017-02-10 05:24:39] Yuppie : not sure OK manipulated the market, probably just much more big leveraged longs than here
[2017-02-10 05:24:53] Yuppie : and less liquididity providers
[2017-02-10 05:25:47] Yuppie : Was surprised Bitmex quarterly actually held up pretty well
[2017-02-10 05:25:59] Papou : damn funding next will be epic for longs
[2017-02-10 05:26:05] Papou : plus we will be at 1040 by then again
[2017-02-10 05:26:09] Papou : free money baby
[2017-02-10 05:26:17] micmix : my guess is that some big whale(s) was playing "the big short" game on quarterly, sell pressure on the way up was huge, never seen anything like that before. not saying it was okc themselves but possible
[2017-02-10 05:26:26] heheh lo : i think we need to go 900 again before 1050
[2017-02-10 05:26:36] aethlios : Yuppie: I talked support and told them to accept usd as collateral to trade futures. because if deposit only coins, when price goes down collateral value goes down, but position is in usd, so everyone is margin called and creates a cascade. they must allow usd as collateral for futures.
[2017-02-10 05:26:52] heheh lo : consolidation is yet to happen before the big dump on the news
[2017-02-10 05:26:54] lockhedge : open interest on okc is much higher than here, order book depth is not enough to absorb liquidations
[2017-02-10 05:27:21] l3f : Also they are locked onto x20
[2017-02-10 05:27:26] l3f : and can't adjust leverage
[2017-02-10 05:27:45] j8 : yeah you can add/remove margin or use cross margin
[2017-02-10 05:27:54] l3f : True
[2017-02-10 05:27:56] micmix : lockhedge: yep, low liquidity plus marking to last price is a recipe for disaster
[2017-02-10 05:28:28] l3f : aethlios: It feels like we bottomed
[2017-02-10 05:29:12] l3f : A nice set of pipes on bitstamp
[2017-02-10 05:29:13] j8 : add to that the inverse pnl, and you have a real disaster
[2017-02-10 05:29:24] micmix : aethlios: yeah, inverse contract and btc collateral, dangerous combination
[2017-02-10 05:29:35] j8 : hey i said that.
[2017-02-10 05:29:47] micmix : I was already typing ;-)
[2017-02-10 05:29:49] j8 : oh he said it first
[2017-02-10 05:29:53] j8 : i missed that
[2017-02-10 05:29:55] j8 : :)
[2017-02-10 05:30:19] aethlios : micmix: they are stupid because they have spot and accept usd, so why not to use usd as margin and have less liquidations??
[2017-02-10 05:30:25] Yuppie : aethlios: did or do you hold a position in quarterlies?
[2017-02-10 05:30:33] Yuppie : At ok?
[2017-02-10 05:30:49] aethlios : Yuppie: I had a long march okcoin and liquidated 755.
[2017-02-10 05:31:04] micmix : j8: is this https://api.quoine.com/ir_ladders/USD quoine lending depth? don't really want to dig through their UI :smile:
[2017-02-10 05:31:04] l3f : aethlios: my condolences
[2017-02-10 05:31:06] j8 : yeah they could easily allow both as collateral
[2017-02-10 05:31:15] l3f : aethlios: did they liquidate everyone?
[2017-02-10 05:31:31] Yuppie : aethlios: ouch, sry
[2017-02-10 05:31:51] micmix : aethlios: that's rough :-(
[2017-02-10 05:32:32] j8 : micmix: i'm not sure, i couldn't find it in the UI except something that indicated a flat 0.1% daily with a max order size of 100 btc. anyway there's no asks, so i'm not sure what that means
[2017-02-10 05:32:36] Yuppie : My LTC got whiped out around 3.50, low was below 3
[2017-02-10 05:33:11] micmix : j8: me neither, weird
[2017-02-10 05:33:18] aethlios : was a hedge, so spread opened 220, lost a lot, around 100k, I will use them now with less capital smaller positions
[2017-02-10 05:33:24] Yuppie : Then a smaller position I entered at 3 10% beliw spot and got liquidatet at low basically
[2017-02-10 05:33:32] Yuppie : 20% below spot
[2017-02-10 05:33:39] l3f : aethlios: jesus
[2017-02-10 05:34:02] l3f : No stop loss or did it gap down instantly?
[2017-02-10 05:34:23] jose : you should use exchanges that have circuit breakers, just sayin
[2017-02-10 05:34:26] Yuppie : Low was around 700
[2017-02-10 05:34:33] aethlios : l3f: last 15 minutes went down 200 usd
[2017-02-10 05:34:48] micmix : aethlios: I hedge only on weekly and biweekly, smaller basis swings
[2017-02-10 05:34:49] aethlios : 717 low, liquidated 755
[2017-02-10 05:34:49] j8 : aethlios: same happened to me but i got liquidated a bit sooner luckily
[2017-02-10 05:34:53] heheh lo : down we go again, this sideways
[2017-02-10 05:35:24] Yuppie : Right now its free money without or minmal leverage
[2017-02-10 05:35:33] Yuppie : long ok short here
[2017-02-10 05:36:23] aethlios : j8: I was stupid, few hours before was almost zero discount, and 5 usd above finex, should had reduced half position or all the hedge, so wont have problem.
[2017-02-10 05:36:54] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Money money money, always funny, when you're broke 'n high
[2017-02-10 05:36:57] arbitrage101 : doesnt look like the dump is over
[2017-02-10 05:37:32] MikeHunt : 2hrs 23m til okc settlement
[2017-02-10 05:37:59] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Tick tock.
[2017-02-10 05:40:43] Yuppie : Insurance fund at OK actually eent UP
[2017-02-10 05:41:28] jose : ofc, at 700 USD you will find a lot of people to take your liquidations order
[2017-02-10 05:41:29] DorianWhack-A-Moto : Yuppie: bull run before settlement?
[2017-02-10 05:41:36] j8 : no, wait until this week's losses wipe it out @Yuppie