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[2017-02-08 13:26:53] rapidtrades : 880
[2017-02-08 13:27:06] rapidtrades : saint paul: do they show ur liquidation price like on here?
[2017-02-08 13:30:22] hh : Come on guys, when is the next dump? bring itn on!!
[2017-02-08 13:30:54] yungyang : rapidtrades: vindication
[2017-02-08 13:31:08] yungyang : wheres that queer hunt
[2017-02-08 13:32:02] golem : I see the new product Bitcoin ETF. could you tell me what the pricing source is ?
[2017-02-08 13:32:08] saint paul : rapidtrades: no
[2017-02-08 13:32:18] saint paul : they have a % of your
[2017-02-08 13:32:20] saint paul : margin left
[2017-02-08 13:32:36] saint paul : at less than 40 % you get liquidated
[2017-02-08 13:32:43] saint paul : or 20 %
[2017-02-08 13:32:46] saint paul : i dont remember
[2017-02-08 13:32:52] saint paul : never got the call
[2017-02-08 13:33:04] y1uy : why is quarterly so low?
[2017-02-08 13:33:06] y1uy : weird af
[2017-02-08 13:33:49] golem : y1uy: funding rate negative 2x in a row
[2017-02-08 13:35:08] y1uy : that means that u get 0.13% of your position?
[2017-02-08 13:35:56] rapidtrades : saint paul: and when u get liquidated is there a penalty? like here u lose ur margin
[2017-02-08 13:36:06] rapidtrades : or do they just dump on market
[2017-02-08 13:36:16] rapidtrades : and give back whats left
[2017-02-08 13:36:29] rapidtrades : cos 40% is rather higher
[2017-02-08 13:36:32] rapidtrades : high*
[2017-02-08 13:37:30] sleger : rapidtrades: should i change my chat name to nostradamus or god ?
[2017-02-08 13:38:10] -_- : Quarterly so low because people don't learn. Last couple times it was at a discount it went to a premium.
[2017-02-08 13:38:14] BitFan : sleger: Cryptodamus
[2017-02-08 13:38:23] sleger : ahah
[2017-02-08 13:38:43] BitFan : sleger: what did you predict?
[2017-02-08 13:38:47] -_- : Maybe this time it's different. Keep shorting and find out
[2017-02-08 13:38:55] sleger : BitFan: pretty much everything
[2017-02-08 13:39:09] rapidtrades : nice call
[2017-02-08 13:39:15] rapidtrades : almost got the top
[2017-02-08 13:39:16] BitFan : sleger: so you shorted from 1060+?
[2017-02-08 13:39:22] heheh lo : any TA guy here to share insights
[2017-02-08 13:39:42] sleger : BitFan: i rarely short bitcoin, but i closed my long there yes, 1062
[2017-02-08 13:39:43] golem : y1uy: no
[2017-02-08 13:40:01] sleger : rapidtrades: was there ADL this time ?
[2017-02-08 13:40:11] rapidtrades : prolly not
[2017-02-08 13:40:25] rapidtrades : my entry is too low to be ADLed
[2017-02-08 13:40:56] sleger : if nobody complained then there wasnt
[2017-02-08 13:41:02] BitFan : sleger: good call guess now you are flat
[2017-02-08 13:41:12] rapidtrades : yeah nobody complained
[2017-02-08 13:41:22] sleger : BitFan: no i got some shorts closed by adl towards the bottom
[2017-02-08 13:41:32] sleger : so im actually long
[2017-02-08 13:42:17] sleger : and with discount so big its more likely to go up
[2017-02-08 13:42:24] BitFan : sleger: at least rapidtrades will pay you funding
[2017-02-08 13:42:37] sleger : no im short the swap
[2017-02-08 13:42:38] rapidtrades : BitFan: the hell i will
[2017-02-08 13:42:45] BitFan : lol
[2017-02-08 13:42:54] rapidtrades : I have planz b1tch, big planz
[2017-02-08 13:43:15] sleger : huge discount, china 28$ ahead, i wouldnt be short
[2017-02-08 13:43:50] rapidtrades : whats so huge about it? its only 14
[2017-02-08 13:44:01] sleger : rapidtrades: 12$ for 2 days
[2017-02-08 13:44:11] rapidtrades : ah on okc u mean
[2017-02-08 13:44:12] sleger : 40$ discount on quaterly
[2017-02-08 13:44:24] rapidtrades : well they know shit man
[2017-02-08 13:44:45] rapidtrades : if they're staying short, u know more shit is gonna go down over there
[2017-02-08 13:45:31] 24hourz : XBTH17 is spooked look at that discount
[2017-02-08 13:46:07] 24hourz : caught a knife and now the price is very spooked
[2017-02-08 13:47:00] -_- : someone building a large position. open contracts almost back to 6 millions
[2017-02-08 13:47:02] -_- : xbth17
[2017-02-08 13:47:45] rapidtrades : -_-: what was it before
[2017-02-08 13:47:58] -_- : lowest i saw was 5,100,000
[2017-02-08 13:48:18] -_- : was around 6,200,000 before the dump
[2017-02-08 13:50:42] -_- : this could go sideways for a while it seems
[2017-02-08 13:50:49] rapidtrades : yikes...wtf march
[2017-02-08 13:50:59] rapidtrades : just keeps sinking
[2017-02-08 13:54:49] -_- : short might be the play
[2017-02-08 13:55:07] -_- : gotta lot of longs looking to bail next time this goes under 1000
[2017-02-08 13:56:05] -_- : or else pump to squeeze dem shorts
[2017-02-08 13:56:18] -_- : as this turns out to be a nice little shakeout
[2017-02-08 13:57:46] sleger : rapidtrades: cryptokeeper was part right
[2017-02-08 13:59:02] sleger : https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-08/china-central-bank-said-to-call-bitcoin-exchanges-for-more-talks
[2017-02-08 13:59:28] charlyko : shorting here.
[2017-02-08 14:06:32] Snookie : Hi all
[2017-02-08 14:06:47] Snookie : here is only about trading no exchange like Poloniex
[2017-02-08 14:06:49] Snookie : ?
[2017-02-08 14:08:49] BitMEX_Greg : Snookie: There is no exchange of funds here on BitMEX. You buy and sell derivative contracts denominated in Bitcoin
[2017-02-08 14:09:21] Snookie : ok Thanks
[2017-02-08 14:11:17] 24hourz : BitMEX_Greg: Is there an arbitrage system or is ti all based on funding cost ?
[2017-02-08 14:13:39] BitMEX_Greg : 24hourz: We don't offer any arbitrage systems as such. Our XBTUSD swap product does have funding periods however
[2017-02-08 14:14:54] Sultan Pepper : Not a good day. I totally shit the bed here last night, then woke up and actually shit the bed because of some nasty sandwich I ate...
[2017-02-08 14:16:20] rapidgains : lol
[2017-02-08 14:17:06] Sultan Pepper : I thought it was a fart
[2017-02-08 14:17:15] Sultan Pepper : nope, chocolate rain
[2017-02-08 14:17:23] rapidtrades : Sultan Pepper: why do u sleep naked nasty
[2017-02-08 14:17:30] herpinator : Sultan Pepper: D:
[2017-02-08 14:17:46] neox : why do we have to get this information from you ... damn son :(
[2017-02-08 14:18:02] Sultan Pepper : i've slept naked my entire life! It's much more comfortable
[2017-02-08 14:18:11] rapidtrades : eww
[2017-02-08 14:18:15] Sultan Pepper : sorry for the deets
[2017-02-08 14:18:39] Sultan Pepper : just figured i'd share my wonderful day
[2017-02-08 14:19:19] Sultan Pepper : Rapidtrades: ever try it? I clean my sheets regularly
[2017-02-08 14:20:03] startChat : What is Bitmex Index?
[2017-02-08 14:20:35] Farzad : hey guys, does anyone remember what was the name of BTC future contract before XBTH17 ?
[2017-02-08 14:20:55] martyix : XBTZ16
[2017-02-08 14:21:17] Sultan Pepper : Why *does* my leverage change when I have it on fixed?
[2017-02-08 14:21:51] BitMEX_Wally : Sultan Pepper: Your effective leverage changes with unrealisedPNL
[2017-02-08 14:21:54] Farzad : martyix: ty
[2017-02-08 14:22:12] Sultan Pepper : ah ok, thanks
[2017-02-08 14:22:19] sleger : Users:932, we might reach a new peak stupidity
[2017-02-08 14:22:28] BitMEX_Wally : if you open a 100x position with 1% margin and it goes up 1% you now have 2% margin in the position so it's effective 50x
[2017-02-08 14:23:16] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/HNUvE9Vk/ a retrace to 890-900 for spot.
[2017-02-08 14:24:41] Sultan Pepper : Bitmex_Wally: how high can I ride up before ADL?
[2017-02-08 14:24:53] itsfall : aethlios: when did you draw that?
[2017-02-08 14:25:03] aethlios : itsfall: now.
[2017-02-08 14:25:13] itsfall : aethlios: ok
[2017-02-08 14:25:33] Farzad : I have a question guys, does the price of XBTH17 match spot price XBTUSD on expiry date ?
[2017-02-08 14:26:02] startChat : XBTH17 is a XBT/USD futures contract settling on the .XBT30M Index.
[2017-02-08 14:26:10] aethlios : Farzad: will match index, up the xbt/usd spot
[2017-02-08 14:27:17] Farzad : Thanks
[2017-02-08 14:28:33] aethlios : let's hope pboc will offer us a nice decent long entry below 900
[2017-02-08 14:29:51] l3f : aethlios: But they gave us 720 already
[2017-02-08 14:30:46] Farzad : Please correct me if I am wrong, XBTH17 is 1027 and XBTUSD is 1037. so If I buy 1 BTC worth of XBTH17 and sell 1 BTC worth of XBTUSD right now and wait until settlement date, I will make $10, no matter what. am I correct ? (assume we have no funding)
[2017-02-08 14:31:20] l3f : Farzad: Yep
[2017-02-08 14:31:43] l3f : Market is in contango but there's no cost of carrying the goods
[2017-02-08 14:32:04] rapidtrades : ofc there is a cost
[2017-02-08 14:32:05] l3f : So you're free to arb that to your profit
[2017-02-08 14:32:12] rapidtrades : f*cking newbs
[2017-02-08 14:32:15] l3f : Fine, counterparty risk
[2017-02-08 14:32:20] Farzad : actually it is in backwardation right now
[2017-02-08 14:32:34] l3f : I always get those confused
[2017-02-08 14:32:37] aethlios : Farzad: no you are wrong if xbtusd you ,ean the swap here, because funding can change the final P&L
[2017-02-08 14:32:43] laisee : got that backwardss l3f
[2017-02-08 14:33:02] l3f : laisee: yeah I messed that on up
[2017-02-08 14:33:17] Farzad : aethlios: I said assuming we have no funding.
[2017-02-08 14:33:56] aethlios : Farzad: buy okcoin march, sell spot finex or stamp and earn 40 to 50 usd
[2017-02-08 14:34:07] itsfall : l3f: already rekt? ^^
[2017-02-08 14:34:10] laisee : no worries /// tie to buy XBTH17 & sell spot
[2017-02-08 14:36:21] Farzad : aethlios: What is woodchipper ?
[2017-02-08 14:36:36] aethlios : Farzad: O K C O I N
[2017-02-08 14:37:02] neox : PBoC is the woodchipper here :D
[2017-02-08 14:37:34] l3f : itsfall: yep :(((((
[2017-02-08 14:37:36] aethlios : pboc interventions will have a lower effect each time
[2017-02-08 14:37:49] itsfall : l3f: i'm sorry for your loss
[2017-02-08 14:38:07] 24hourz : become immune through desensitizing by the PBOC
[2017-02-08 14:38:12] l3f : itsfall: donate to my rebuild fund
[2017-02-08 14:38:25] itsfall : l3f: or to mine
[2017-02-08 14:38:26] itsfall : :P
[2017-02-08 14:38:31] aethlios : pboc is bailing out shorts
[2017-02-08 14:38:48] golem : BitMEX_Wally: can you tell me what is a Price source for your new product Bitcoin ETF ?
[2017-02-08 14:38:52] neox : my rebuilding fund was opened first! so pay to mine :P
[2017-02-08 14:40:12] neox : need money to troll everyone :O
[2017-02-08 14:40:37] l3f : aethlios: I think btc will fully retrace that dump in about 12 hours
[2017-02-08 14:41:11] Adriana : Longing Swap and shorting XBTH17 has become a better practice
[2017-02-08 14:41:16] aethlios : l3f: if no new update from pboc yes probably.
[2017-02-08 14:41:45] l3f : As long as PBoC doesn't bring all the shorts to the yard
[2017-02-08 14:42:13] aethlios : l3f: the short whale on march must be well informed from inside
[2017-02-08 14:42:38] l3f : aethlios: At the risk of sounding absolutely retarded
[2017-02-08 14:42:41] itsfall : aethlios: i also think that
[2017-02-08 14:42:42] l3f : it won't be like last time
[2017-02-08 14:42:47] l3f : no naked shorts
[2017-02-08 14:42:53] l3f : no margin liquidation cascade explosions
[2017-02-08 14:42:59] cryptokeeper : morning morning
[2017-02-08 14:43:00] l3f : no body holds btc in China
[2017-02-08 14:43:25] l3f : The fact they managed to dump this much down is already surprising
[2017-02-08 14:43:50] aethlios : 14 btc discount weekly, nice arb for 36 hours.
[2017-02-08 14:43:57] aethlios : 14 usd i mean
[2017-02-08 14:44:19] l3f : aethlios: I need a bot like bitmexrekt that let's us get in on the news fast
[2017-02-08 14:44:29] l3f : same time as non-insiders
[2017-02-08 14:44:41] l3f : We'll have that soon :)
[2017-02-08 14:44:52] itsfall : l3f: that's a good idea
[2017-02-08 14:44:54] itsfall : :)
[2017-02-08 14:45:04] itsfall : l3f: how you know we'll have that soon?
[2017-02-08 14:45:14] l3f : I'm writing it
[2017-02-08 14:45:23] itsfall : l3f: can i help? which lang?
[2017-02-08 14:45:26] itsfall : :P
[2017-02-08 14:45:33] l3f : itsfall: nah I'm good
[2017-02-08 14:45:38] itsfall : l3f: okay
[2017-02-08 14:45:53] aethlios : l3f: bitmex should fix a news bot that runs in the trollbox or in a newsbox.
[2017-02-08 14:46:05] aethlios : will attract customers
[2017-02-08 14:46:14] l3f : aethlios: hey that's paid information!
[2017-02-08 14:46:21] l3f : this ain't bloomberg terminal
[2017-02-08 14:46:27] aethlios : we pay fees
[2017-02-08 14:46:32] l3f : FUNDING
[2017-02-08 14:46:40] l3f : and gaping spread
[2017-02-08 14:46:56] 24hourz : BITMEX terminal services
[2017-02-08 14:47:05] 24hourz : Ill take 3 keyboards and 12 screens
[2017-02-08 14:47:28] aethlios : volume is very high now, multiple than 6 months before.
[2017-02-08 14:47:38] l3f : We know we've made it once btc's on bloomberg term
[2017-02-08 14:47:57] l3f : when the real trader rekt us left right and center
[2017-02-08 14:48:37] l3f : when you're up against GS and all the other investment banks it's time to take your millions in btc and run the fuck away
[2017-02-08 14:49:06] 24hourz : naw brah
[2017-02-08 14:49:11] 24hourz : time to ball on them
[2017-02-08 14:57:51] itsfall : bloomberg knew the dump is happening, they posted 2min after the drop
[2017-02-08 14:58:01] itsfall : inside job
[2017-02-08 14:58:10] itsfall : pboc, bloomberg, chinese investors
[2017-02-08 14:58:16] itsfall : conspiracy
[2017-02-08 14:58:22] neox : damn insiders ... burn them all in hell :D
[2017-02-08 14:58:28] itsfall : +
[2017-02-08 14:58:29] itsfall : +1
[2017-02-08 14:58:45] neox : put them all into a burning skycastle and let them fall from their sky
[2017-02-08 14:58:57] 24hourz : id pay just for the news api relating to crypto on bloomberg
[2017-02-08 14:58:59] 24hourz : not for all the other crap
[2017-02-08 15:02:45] cryptokeeper : how much does that cost?
[2017-02-08 15:02:52] cryptokeeper : I know all of their news sources too.
[2017-02-08 15:02:56] cryptokeeper : you can get them for free
[2017-02-08 15:03:18] cryptokeeper : itsfall: I told everybody well in advance.... 10-15hrs
[2017-02-08 15:03:32] cryptokeeper : it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it was going to dump.
[2017-02-08 15:03:41] sleger : you had your time completely wrong though
[2017-02-08 15:03:59] cryptokeeper : no i didnt
[2017-02-08 15:04:03] sleger : yes you did
[2017-02-08 15:04:04] cryptokeeper : oh here is sleger
[2017-02-08 15:04:12] cryptokeeper : nope nope and NOPE
[2017-02-08 15:04:19] sleger : good news, wrong time
[2017-02-08 15:04:20] cryptokeeper : i screwed up the CST time
[2017-02-08 15:04:25] cryptokeeper : my china time was bang on
[2017-02-08 15:04:30] cryptokeeper : check the archives buddy\
[2017-02-08 15:04:44] sleger : you said midnight china time
[2017-02-08 15:05:09] cryptokeeper : no i didnt... quit bullshitting
[2017-02-08 15:05:11] cryptokeeper : its in the archives
[2017-02-08 15:05:12] cryptokeeper : [2017-02-08 08:23:10] cryptokeeper : [2017-02-08 00:04:47] cryptokeeper : sooo the time is.... [2017-02-08 00:04:50] cryptokeeper : sec [2017-02-08 00:05:22] cryptokeeper : pboc will meet tomorrow at 4PM GMT+8
[2017-02-08 15:05:42] cryptokeeper : 4PM GMT+8 is 2AM CST
[2017-02-08 15:05:46] cryptokeeper : exactly when the dump happened
[2017-02-08 15:05:50] cryptokeeper : nice try though
[2017-02-08 15:06:10] cryptokeeper : next time... no info for you.
[2017-02-08 15:06:39] sleger : hold on let me correct your misinformation
[2017-02-08 15:06:56] cryptokeeper : please do.
[2017-02-08 15:07:01] sleger : let s see what you said BEFORE it happened
[2017-02-08 15:07:06] cryptokeeper : go ahead
[2017-02-08 15:07:11] cryptokeeper : i said 10am cst
[2017-02-08 15:07:13] cryptokeeper : i fucked up.
[2017-02-08 15:07:18] sleger : takes time as it s not in the archive
[2017-02-08 15:07:25] sleger : have to use the api to get it
[2017-02-08 15:07:30] cryptokeeper : gotcha
[2017-02-08 15:07:54] cryptokeeper : either way it doesnt matter. i said the correct time and news
[2017-02-08 15:07:57] cryptokeeper : end of story.
[2017-02-08 15:08:11] cryptokeeper : search everything under my name with CST and GMT
[2017-02-08 15:08:47] sleger : its not that easy to search
[2017-02-08 15:08:51] sleger : hold on
[2017-02-08 15:08:52] l3f : sleger: Do you ever get the urge to crash this plane with no surivivors?
[2017-02-08 15:08:53] cryptokeeper : oh... doesnt matter really.
[2017-02-08 15:09:05] cryptokeeper : dont worry about it.
[2017-02-08 15:11:14] sleger : cryptokeeper: "user":"cryptokeeper","message":"im done talking about that.... move on... like i said... 10AM CST tomorrow morning.. they meet"
[2017-02-08 15:11:23] sleger : WRONG
[2017-02-08 15:11:37] cryptokeeper : fuck your retarded lol... what did i just say a few minutes ago
[2017-02-08 15:11:43] sleger : {"id":448567,"date":"2017-02-08T00:02:25.264Z","user":"cryptokeeper","message":"im done talking about that.... move on... like i said... 10AM CST tomorrow morning.. they meet"
[2017-02-08 15:11:49] cryptokeeper : i messed up the CST time
[2017-02-08 15:12:22] sleger : cryptokeeper: ah ok
[2017-02-08 15:13:03] -_- : you told me the wrong time and i got rekt
[2017-02-08 15:13:20] sleger : cryptokeeper: good info, thanks for sharing !
[2017-02-08 15:13:29] laisee : everyone give sleger a clap for his extreme diligence and hard work in aide of the truth.
[2017-02-08 15:13:47] cryptokeeper : -_-: hahaha good.. cause you were doubting me
[2017-02-08 15:13:54] cryptokeeper : :P
[2017-02-08 15:14:13] -_- : price is recovering now
[2017-02-08 15:14:17] cryptokeeper : naw... you guys thought i was a total noob because I didnt chat in here. I suppose I dont blame ya
[2017-02-08 15:14:20] -_- : must have been a good news meeting
[2017-02-08 15:14:31] -_- : still got n00bs dumping into a discount though
[2017-02-08 15:14:32] cryptokeeper : it was about AML
[2017-02-08 15:15:25] -_- : got $41 to go on okco1n quarterly to fully recover
[2017-02-08 15:15:26] BitFan : cryptokeeper: in general i don't follow trollbox advices except doing the opposite of mikehunt
[2017-02-08 15:15:26] sleger : cryptokeeper: yes the most likely proba was you were full of it, with no track record, now it's different
[2017-02-08 15:15:37] sleger : BitFan: well that one is a no brainer
[2017-02-08 15:15:42] cryptokeeper : in all honesty... I think PBOC stepping in is a good foot forward...... at the end of the day there has to be SOME SORT of accountability/regulation... at least for exchanges and counter party risk
[2017-02-08 15:15:59] cryptokeeper : BitFan: hahaha is mikehunt the opposite indicator?
[2017-02-08 15:16:08] BitFan : cryptokeeper: sort of
[2017-02-08 15:16:16] abbey : cryptokeeper: what is AML?
[2017-02-08 15:16:17] BitFan : if he s short you better go long and viceversa
[2017-02-08 15:16:24] cryptokeeper : LOL
[2017-02-08 15:16:29] cryptokeeper : sleger: good stuff
[2017-02-08 15:16:34] abbey : BitFan: true dat
[2017-02-08 15:16:38] itsfall : abbey: anti money laundry
[2017-02-08 15:16:45] cryptokeeper : yeah he was really on my ass yesterday too
[2017-02-08 15:16:56] itsfall : *laundering
[2017-02-08 15:17:00] cryptokeeper : I think he ate his humble pie though
[2017-02-08 15:17:08] abbey : itsfall: thanks
[2017-02-08 15:17:13] itsfall : np
[2017-02-08 15:17:59] l3f : sleger: unhedging?
[2017-02-08 15:18:16] l3f : well unwinding*
[2017-02-08 15:18:17] sleger : l3f: I am long because i got adl around the low (lucky)
[2017-02-08 15:19:18] l3f : sleger: that's gotta be nice
[2017-02-08 15:19:20] l3f : automatic knife catch
[2017-02-08 15:19:30] sleger : it not always is...
[2017-02-08 15:19:51] l3f : well yeah, but just this time adl didn't fuck us over
[2017-02-08 15:20:03] sleger : i didnt get adl here
[2017-02-08 15:21:01] rapidtrades : keep buying that dip
[2017-02-08 15:21:26] -_- : okco1n fell 10% with no margin
[2017-02-08 15:22:10] -_- : 7358 cny is resistance though
[2017-02-08 15:22:13] -_- : double topped off it
[2017-02-08 15:23:03] cryptokeeper : abbey: anti money laundering
[2017-02-08 15:23:13] cryptokeeper : sorry didnt see your msg til now
[2017-02-08 15:23:23] cryptokeeper : criminals washing money/etc.
[2017-02-08 15:23:51] cryptokeeper : reporting dollar/yuan values over X amount when withdrawing
[2017-02-08 15:23:56] cryptokeeper : to PBOC or government?
[2017-02-08 15:24:10] -_- : so if COIN gets rejected before march 12 then it's a race to short everything before this hits 0
[2017-02-08 15:24:36] -_- : and a race to long if it is approved before it hits 100
[2017-02-08 15:25:34] Sidwick : COIN: What is result if Winklevoss withdraw their application?
[2017-02-08 15:25:45] -_- : 0 then
[2017-02-08 15:25:49] Sidwick : Why?
[2017-02-08 15:25:56] -_- : because it isnt happening
[2017-02-08 15:25:56] Sidwick : It is not delayed or denied
[2017-02-08 15:26:11] -_- : it's more of a will it happen or not
[2017-02-08 15:26:14] -_- : it's a yes or no
[2017-02-08 15:26:20] -_- : by march 12
[2017-02-08 15:26:23] Sidwick : Not according to the wording of the document
[2017-02-08 15:26:34] Sidwick : COIN will settle at 0 if the SEC denies or delays its decision about the proposed rule change. COIN will settle at 100 if the SEC approves the proposed rule change.
[2017-02-08 15:26:47] sleger : wording is bad then
[2017-02-08 15:26:50] Sidwick : I agree
[2017-02-08 15:26:53] Sidwick : Hence the questoin
[2017-02-08 15:26:55] sleger : because it wont be denied
[2017-02-08 15:27:20] sleger : the way it works if sec wants to deny it they will approach the Wbros and tell them to withdraw
[2017-02-08 15:27:34] sleger : We need bitmex to clarify ?
[2017-02-08 15:28:10] 24hourz : Im pretty sure for it to go to 100 it would have to be approved
[2017-02-08 15:28:51] Sidwick : Bitmex also needs to clarify what happens if the SEC makes no decision
[2017-02-08 15:29:12] sleger : they should say 100 if approved, 0 otherwise
[2017-02-08 15:29:17] rapidtrades : lol coin wtf is live
[2017-02-08 15:29:20] rapidtrades : odds are shit tho
[2017-02-08 15:29:26] Sidwick : This results in an automatic approval, but it is not exactly 'SEC approves' as stated in the wording
[2017-02-08 15:29:29] Rado2 : why March 12?
[2017-02-08 15:29:37] rapidtrades : pretty much where u should expect them to be
[2017-02-08 15:29:38] Sidwick : Because March 11 is the deadline
[2017-02-08 15:29:40] -_- : because we will know by march 11 Rado2
[2017-02-08 15:30:11] Rado2 : so this is like a binary future then?
[2017-02-08 15:30:29] Rado2 : not going to represent an actual price of an asset?
[2017-02-08 15:30:32] Sidwick : I am interested in this proposition, but the wording needs to be fixed
[2017-02-08 15:30:35] rapidtrades : cmon bulls push this bitch to 80
[2017-02-08 15:30:40] rapidtrades : ETF HYPE
[2017-02-08 15:30:42] rapidtrades : GO GO OG
[2017-02-08 15:30:50] rapidtrades : spread this shit on reddit fellas
[2017-02-08 15:31:06] Rado2 : rapidtrades: lets not do another ZEC
[2017-02-08 15:31:15] rapidtrades : let's do :)
[2017-02-08 15:31:35] rapidtrades : liquidity is very poor
[2017-02-08 15:31:45] Rado2 : of course
[2017-02-08 15:31:59] rapidtrades : 7 point spread to get some srs size
[2017-02-08 15:34:07] rapidtrades : who keeps buying these dip man its unreal
[2017-02-08 15:34:23] rapidtrades : dumb ppl made too much money doing this past two years
[2017-02-08 15:34:39] rapidtrades : will be hard to shake them off
[2017-02-08 15:34:42] messiaen8844 : rapidtrades: read about trends :)
[2017-02-08 15:34:44] messiaen8844 : lol
[2017-02-08 15:35:05] rapidtrades : trends are for followers
[2017-02-08 15:35:12] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 302100 @ 1037.75 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2017-02-08 15:35:15] messiaen8844 : yes, that's how we make money on markets
[2017-02-08 15:35:18] sleger : oph nice
[2017-02-08 15:35:20] rapidgains : lol
[2017-02-08 15:35:41] Rado2 : Trade the likelihood that the Winkelvoss COIN ETF will be approved 3/12 http://bitmex.whalepool.io Current prob: 30%
[2017-02-08 15:35:41] messiaen8844 : just ask any hedge fund
[2017-02-08 15:36:30] -_- : i closed my long and then that happens and jacks price up $10 more lol
[2017-02-08 15:37:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 202421 @ 1044.58 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2017-02-08 15:37:16] -_- : wow
[2017-02-08 15:37:33] -_- : 2 accounts
[2017-02-08 15:37:37] -_- : who shorted the bottom huge
[2017-02-08 15:37:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 500 @ 1046.69
[2017-02-08 15:39:12] -_- : i was wondering why open contracts were going way up
[2017-02-08 15:40:04] -_- : now i really wish i left my fucking long open
[2017-02-08 15:40:09] -_- : up $13 more now
[2017-02-08 15:40:21] amirmass : 1054
[2017-02-08 15:40:22] amirmass : !!!
[2017-02-08 15:40:24] amirmass : moon
[2017-02-08 15:42:21] amirmass : buyyyyyyy
[2017-02-08 15:42:40] rapidtrades : quiet newb
[2017-02-08 15:43:36] Nerve : amirmass: and them what ?
[2017-02-08 15:44:02] amirmass : im saying stamp is at 1054
[2017-02-08 15:44:05] amirmass : it will follow here
[2017-02-08 15:44:08] amirmass : on bitmex
[2017-02-08 15:44:55] rapidtrades : Funny how after a drop everyone wants to know the news
[2017-02-08 15:45:03] rapidtrades : Noone asks about news when we're going up
[2017-02-08 15:45:16] rapidtrades : Cos it's their god given right to make money long bitcoin
[2017-02-08 15:45:17] RoftheN : That's because it slowly goes up and rapidly goes down
[2017-02-08 15:45:25] rapidtrades : dude plz
[2017-02-08 15:45:30] RoftheN : Often
[2017-02-08 15:45:53] Rado2 : rapidtrades: since when do you despite BTC so much?
[2017-02-08 15:46:01] RoftheN : Peanuts taste kinda like peanutbutter, I figured, maybe that's why it's called PEANUTbutter
[2017-02-08 15:46:21] rapidtrades : that's terrible logic from a terrible person
[2017-02-08 15:46:30] RoftheN : Why am I a terrible person?
[2017-02-08 15:46:38] amirmass : 10555
[2017-02-08 15:46:40] amirmass : 1055
[2017-02-08 15:46:41] rapidtrades : cos u have terrible logic
[2017-02-08 15:46:47] RoftheN : Oooh okay nvm then
[2017-02-08 15:46:47] amirmass : 1100 here we come
[2017-02-08 15:46:57] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 91123 @ 1051.18 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-02-08 15:46:58] rapidtrades : amirmass: calm down newb
[2017-02-08 15:47:13] ross : Really who shorts now
[2017-02-08 15:47:18] RoftheN : I short
[2017-02-08 15:47:51] amirmass : moon
[2017-02-08 15:47:54] amirmass : dont short
[2017-02-08 15:47:57] rapidtrades : I also get bit more short every day due to cashing out etc
[2017-02-08 15:47:59] amirmass : its gonna rocket
[2017-02-08 15:48:06] rapidtrades : so not short per say
[2017-02-08 15:48:11] amirmass : 1056 now
[2017-02-08 15:48:11] RoftheN : Why will it rocket? What about china ban #15
[2017-02-08 15:48:37] rapidtrades : Cos it's their god given right to make money long bitcoin
[2017-02-08 15:48:52] RoftheN : Oh I peanutbetter end my short then
[2017-02-08 15:49:02] rapidtrades : anyone who came in bitcoin during the past 1.5 years hasn;t seen a bear market
[2017-02-08 15:49:44] weather b0y4 : and we are not entering oe now
[2017-02-08 15:50:04] amirmass : buy now
[2017-02-08 15:50:09] amirmass : before we break
[2017-02-08 15:50:10] amirmass : up
[2017-02-08 15:50:31] Nerve : Because everyone cames in Bitcoin and had that god given to make money long bitcoin, Bitcoin worth today +1K
[2017-02-08 15:50:31] rapidtrades : dude plz, noone's gonna follow the advice of some newb
[2017-02-08 15:50:41] RoftheN : I'll follow his advice!!
[2017-02-08 15:50:43] Nerve : so...don't be rude @rapidtrades
[2017-02-08 15:50:50] KyllingLolsson : Bull trap
[2017-02-08 15:51:03] amirmass : moon
[2017-02-08 15:51:04] amirmass : time
[2017-02-08 15:51:05] weather b0y4 : you bears are probably going to have to deal with the that bitcoin wants to stay above $1k
[2017-02-08 15:51:07] amirmass : serious
[2017-02-08 15:51:34] RoftheN : But if bitcoin stays above 1000, how will I ever be able to buy cheaply once I have a job
[2017-02-08 15:51:55] rapidtrades : @sleger is it moon time? @Rado2 @BTCJDS
[2017-02-08 15:52:26] Sidwick : RoftheN, buy half a bitcoin or 0.1 or whatever you can afford
[2017-02-08 15:52:38] -_- : bitfinex $18 away from new daily high
[2017-02-08 15:52:43] Sidwick : People always think they need to buy a full bitcoin. That isn't true.
[2017-02-08 15:53:00] -_- : $125 from ATH
[2017-02-08 15:53:02] rapidtrades : @BTCDJS stupid name
[2017-02-08 15:53:53] RoftheN : I know I own lots of satoshi, I'm just talking about buying cheap BEFORE it goes moon
[2017-02-08 15:55:20] amirmass : shortttttt
[2017-02-08 15:55:44] RoftheN : weren't you like MOON just now?
[2017-02-08 15:55:45] crmun : RoftheN: buy everytime you have money then, its called scaling
[2017-02-08 15:56:01] RoftheN : I do that crmun, thing is, I don't have a job and income
[2017-02-08 15:56:12] crmun : get a job
[2017-02-08 15:56:22] RoftheN : Now I'm just borrowing money from the government each month
[2017-02-08 15:56:26] crmun : just dont quit when btc moon
[2017-02-08 15:56:29] RoftheN : And I'm trying to get a job, but I'm too lazy
[2017-02-08 15:56:34] BTC-Noob : i sold too early crying now
[2017-02-08 15:59:28] Lila : it is always better to sell too early than too late
[2017-02-08 16:01:17] MikeHunt : RoftheN: borrowing money?
[2017-02-08 16:01:30] Nerve : Retrace
[2017-02-08 16:01:45] RoftheN : Yeah it's a student debt thingy
[2017-02-08 16:02:27] RoftheN : 1019 euros a month. But my dad pays my tuition fees and university books
[2017-02-08 16:03:31] rapidtrades : well isn't that a sweet gig
[2017-02-08 16:04:49] Wings : does anyone know how to chart the difference between the swap and future in BTC?
[2017-02-08 16:06:42] RoftheN : right click on the chart and then ''Çompare or Add Symbol'' then type XBTH17 and add it
[2017-02-08 16:07:24] RoftheN : Not sure how you add the candles
[2017-02-08 16:08:33] Wings : RoftheN: great thanks
[2017-02-08 16:09:41] -_- : okco1n going for it
[2017-02-08 16:11:22] -_- : bottom shorters having a bad day
[2017-02-08 16:11:36] RoftheN : Oh yay I found out how to get candles for the second one
[2017-02-08 16:11:54] RoftheN : You can even give the second candles a second color, how nice
[2017-02-08 16:12:37] -_- : i like how 9 of the top 10 holders on okco1n increased their position
[2017-02-08 16:12:46] -_- : futures
[2017-02-08 16:13:26] Wings : RoftheN: cool, what did you do?
[2017-02-08 16:13:43] BTC-Noob : -_-: where can you see this rank list?
[2017-02-08 16:13:55] -_- : https://www.okco1n.com/future/futureTop.do?type=0&symbol=0
[2017-02-08 16:14:00] -_- : change 1 to i
[2017-02-08 16:14:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 5 @ 1048.38
[2017-02-08 16:14:02] RoftheN : Compare or Add symbol > add symbol > XBTH17 then let it come, rightclick the new symbol and then change it to candles
[2017-02-08 16:14:48] RoftheN : It's kinda messy though
[2017-02-08 16:17:01] rapidgains : my god
[2017-02-08 16:17:06] rapidgains : this chart lmao
[2017-02-08 16:17:49] Wings : RoftheN: haha thanks
[2017-02-08 16:21:49] l3f : Full retrace incoming
[2017-02-08 16:22:03] sleger : yep, really nice stuff, i got so lucky !
[2017-02-08 16:23:26] rowrow : the one time it would have been nice to get de-leveraged...
[2017-02-08 16:23:39] sleger : i did :D
[2017-02-08 16:23:51] rowrow : spot or futures?
[2017-02-08 16:24:05] sleger : there is adl on spot ?
[2017-02-08 16:24:14] rowrow : yeah i'm pretty sure
[2017-02-08 16:24:46] rowrow : it stays closer to price, but that doesn't mean you can't run out of liquidity/insurance funds
[2017-02-08 16:25:20] rowrow : i got deleveraged i believe on the first PBOC drop while using it as an arbitrage, pretty painful
[2017-02-08 16:25:34] sleger : on spot ?
[2017-02-08 16:25:40] rowrow : yeah
[2017-02-08 16:25:45] sleger : which exchange ?
[2017-02-08 16:26:09] rowrow : this one "arbitraged" vs bitfinex
[2017-02-08 16:26:17] sleger : there is no spot here dummy
[2017-02-08 16:26:27] rowrow : perpetual spot
[2017-02-08 16:26:36] sleger : swap
[2017-02-08 16:26:37] sleger : not spot
[2017-02-08 16:26:39] sleger : dummy
[2017-02-08 16:26:40] rowrow : perpetual swap*
[2017-02-08 16:26:52] sleger : there is no adl on spot
[2017-02-08 16:27:38] sleger : the only "adl" i heard of on spot was after finex hack when they force closed all margin positions
[2017-02-08 16:27:40] rowrow : yeah i meant swap, something like bitfinex/margin trading with loans isn't supposed to have deleverage unless something goes wrong
[2017-02-08 16:28:59] rowrow : anything that can run out of liquidity always has the chance of some sort of deleverage
[2017-02-08 16:36:46] rasdasd : too bad I dont have more money too short COIN
[2017-02-08 16:37:36] rasdasd : there will probaby be some news..drop the price..buy them..and then suddently good news to pump the price
[2017-02-08 16:38:04] sleger : risk reward is not good for coin now
[2017-02-08 16:38:13] sleger : to short
[2017-02-08 16:38:44] rasdasd : sleger: they could make better profit if they short it, than pump it
[2017-02-08 16:40:04] rowrow : anyone know when we might hear positively or negatively on the ETF result? sounds like it's likely we hear early if it's denied, is that also true if it's accepted?
[2017-02-08 16:40:27] rasdasd : rowrow: we will now if its accepted 11th marth
[2017-02-08 16:40:30] rasdasd : march
[2017-02-08 16:40:33] rasdasd : till then
[2017-02-08 16:40:44] rasdasd : fud can do magic
[2017-02-08 16:40:59] rowrow : so that means probability of acceptance increases if we hear nothing between february 20 and march 10?
[2017-02-08 16:41:39] rasdasd : rowrow: or if they fud it can drop
[2017-02-08 16:41:52] rasdasd : rowrow: but normally it should rise
[2017-02-08 16:43:18] rowrow : rasdasd: all right, ty, might be a decent idea to reduce leverage at some point i suppose to keep risk down either way
[2017-02-08 16:43:33] rasdasd : rowrow: this trading is without leverage
[2017-02-08 16:44:21] rowrow : rasdasd: i mean just on normal bitcoin price though, don't wanna get destroyed by an instant $150 price drop, or conversely $300 rise
[2017-02-08 16:44:43] rasdasd : rowrow: well, on bitcoin you never know whats gonna happe
[2017-02-08 16:44:45] rasdasd : happen
[2017-02-08 16:45:08] l3f : Thanks bears for the funding
[2017-02-08 16:45:18] rowrow : rasdasd: true, but risk from known source of volatility + normal unknown sources is higher than a random point with just the unknown sources
[2017-02-08 16:53:09] MrRGnome : Is delaying the COIN SEC decision even an option at this point?
[2017-02-08 16:54:11] sleger : no
[2017-02-08 16:57:21] l3f : sleger: think we'll make a new ATH?
[2017-02-08 16:58:13] bg5 : wasn't going to trade until tomorrow when things had settled down and maybe some news had come out but ....
[2017-02-08 16:58:33] bg5 : I got to short this, there are 2 options as I see it
[2017-02-08 16:58:58] bg5 : 1. there is a reason the price dropped that is still not known = short
[2017-02-08 16:59:35] bg5 : 2. there is no reason, there the price dropped 6% for no big reason, very shaky ground = short
[2017-02-08 16:59:57] sleger : you are an idiot
[2017-02-08 17:00:02] sleger : there is a reason and its known
[2017-02-08 17:00:12] sleger : none of your options btw
[2017-02-08 17:00:21] rapidtrades : i think the reason for the pump is crooks taking money out before the AML door is shut
[2017-02-08 17:00:33] MikeHunt : pboc did this before and it retraced and continued upwards
[2017-02-08 17:00:33] rapidtrades : this is their last chance
[2017-02-08 17:01:09] rapidtrades : pretty much guarantees a crash once the new regs are in place
[2017-02-08 17:01:16] bg5 : sleger : I am sorry if I missed the reason, what was it?
[2017-02-08 17:01:18] BitFan : MikeHunt: what's your next move?
[2017-02-08 17:01:33] bg5 : MikeHunt: when?
[2017-02-08 17:01:35] MikeHunt : wait n see
[2017-02-08 17:01:44] BitFan : PBoC meeting with cn exchanges