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[2017-02-08 09:59:18] BitMEX_Wally : JuriFX: One-Cancels-The-Other orders are coming to the frontend soon hopefully
[2017-02-08 10:06:05] l3f : Can I just say that COIN_BH17 is the most degenerate thing I've seen?
[2017-02-08 10:07:25] Rookie : hard to beat WINZ16
[2017-02-08 10:07:35] l3f : "Traders who believe that the rule change will be denied will sell COIN *****conracts*****. Traders who believe that the rule change will be approved will buy COIN contracts."
[2017-02-08 10:07:37] l3f : plz
[2017-02-08 10:07:51] l3f : conracts
[2017-02-08 10:07:53] l3f : is what
[2017-02-08 10:07:54] l3f : we need
[2017-02-08 10:08:10] l3f : Rookie: They actually beat WINZ16
[2017-02-08 10:08:27] tech.coin : Its binary
[2017-02-08 10:08:32] tech.coin : either you like them
[2017-02-08 10:08:35] tech.coin : or not .....
[2017-02-08 10:08:39] tech.coin : : )
[2017-02-08 10:09:43] l3f : bitmex casino and resort
[2017-02-08 10:09:49] tech.coin : : )
[2017-02-08 10:11:21] l3f : I'm pretty confused and wondering if there's an accouncement
[2017-02-08 10:11:28] l3f : announcement for coins
[2017-02-08 10:11:38] l3f : COIN_BH17
[2017-02-08 10:12:08] faggot : where did this drop come from?
[2017-02-08 10:12:40] tech.coin : Rien ne va plus!
[2017-02-08 10:12:43] l3f : faggot: courtesy of PBoC
[2017-02-08 10:12:49] l3f : you're welcome
[2017-02-08 10:12:58] faggot : FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
[2017-02-08 10:13:58] neox : lets wait for the real news ... now we have just the info that they talk with the exchanges ... lets wait what they'll say at the end of the day and we know if we are back to 700$ again or we can go on to 1100
[2017-02-08 10:14:31] l3f : neox: you figure out the news from the price real quick
[2017-02-08 10:14:40] l3f : don't actually care about news haha
[2017-02-08 10:16:54] cryptokeeper : ya that was the "news" lol
[2017-02-08 10:17:07] cryptokeeper : up we go
[2017-02-08 10:17:07] guacamole : so the bloomberg article said "wednesday," does that mean the meeting is happening now/today?
[2017-02-08 10:17:17] cryptokeeper : it already happened... 2 hrs ago
[2017-02-08 10:17:21] cryptokeeper : right at the start of the drop
[2017-02-08 10:18:01] cryptokeeper : 2AM CST 4PM china time
[2017-02-08 10:18:29] guacamole : so any idea if we'll see a post-meeting announcement?
[2017-02-08 10:18:32] guacamole : (today)
[2017-02-08 10:18:43] cryptokeeper : ummm something basic.... about AML
[2017-02-08 10:18:49] irishsia : There was no meeting. It was all just bullsh1t
[2017-02-08 10:18:56] cryptokeeper : there was a meeting
[2017-02-08 10:19:10] cryptokeeper : i told you guys this like 15hrs in advance.
[2017-02-08 10:19:19] BitFan : cryptokeeper: how did you know it?
[2017-02-08 10:19:31] rasdasd : what is the supply of COIN?
[2017-02-08 10:19:43] cryptokeeper : BitFan: I was told the big 3 were meeting at that time.
[2017-02-08 10:19:46] micmix : cryptokeeper is PBoC agent here on BitMEX
[2017-02-08 10:19:48] cryptokeeper : with PBOC
[2017-02-08 10:20:03] cryptokeeper : micmix: hehe
[2017-02-08 10:20:05] irishsia : cryptokeeper: except I have spoken to someone and they say it is untrue
[2017-02-08 10:20:10] rasdasd : BitMEX_Wally: supply of COIN?
[2017-02-08 10:20:11] BitFan : did you open any short then?
[2017-02-08 10:20:17] elmorte : I for one welcome our sliteyed overlords
[2017-02-08 10:20:19] irishsia : There was no meeting
[2017-02-08 10:20:21] tommygunn : wow, nice correction candle. Anyone else have orders hit at1k?
[2017-02-08 10:20:36] cryptokeeper : irishsia: I have multiple sources now saying they did?
[2017-02-08 10:20:40] cryptokeeper : and there was this
[2017-02-08 10:20:41] BitFan : irishsia: so bloomberg is writing bullshit?
[2017-02-08 10:20:41] BitMEX_Wally : rasdasd: It's a prediction market, it settles at 0 or 100
[2017-02-08 10:20:50] elmorte : BitMEX_Wally: what;s the settlement date?
[2017-02-08 10:20:55] irishsia : BitFan: when is Bloomberg not writing bullshit?
[2017-02-08 10:20:58] rasdasd : BitMEX_Wally: oh okay thanks
[2017-02-08 10:21:19] tommygunn : I see coin launched here, nice job boys
[2017-02-08 10:21:24] cryptokeeper : https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/829243839999254528
[2017-02-08 10:21:28] BitFan : irishsia: Ok but here they just said there was a meeting
[2017-02-08 10:21:29] BitFan : https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-08/china-central-bank-said-to-call-bitcoin-exchanges-for-more-talks?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
[2017-02-08 10:21:50] irishsia : cryptokeeper: okay, if you have sources inside one of the big 3 exchanges then fine. I also have sources and they say there was no meeting.
[2017-02-08 10:21:54] cryptokeeper : that was posted 2 hours ago... right at the time of the meeting
[2017-02-08 10:22:22] neox : maybe just fake-information to drop the price?
[2017-02-08 10:22:22] irishsia : BitFan: Yes, the cite sources 'familiar with the situation'. No source.
[2017-02-08 10:22:24] elmorte : Unless you were there, you can't say there was a meeting for sure. But the market speaks for itself
[2017-02-08 10:22:37] cryptokeeper : right.
[2017-02-08 10:22:43] cryptokeeper : and I wasnt there of course
[2017-02-08 10:22:55] cryptokeeper : but I know people over there
[2017-02-08 10:22:58] irishsia : Either way we will find out. The market got crushed.
[2017-02-08 10:23:01] elmorte : and he did call it last night, I was here
[2017-02-08 10:23:12] cryptokeeper : elmorte: i said the exact time too.
[2017-02-08 10:23:19] BitFan : irishsia: yes but this was sufficient to drop the price
[2017-02-08 10:23:35] BitFan : I was there too
[2017-02-08 10:23:38] elmorte : I missed that bit...otherwise would've been on here like a hawk
[2017-02-08 10:23:46] cryptokeeper : anyways... its done... i dont wanna talk about it anymore... lets just trade :P
[2017-02-08 10:23:47] irishsia : BitFan: It's called manipulation. Someone wanted to crash it to make bank. Job done
[2017-02-08 10:24:10] BitFan : irishsia: that also a very valuable alternative
[2017-02-08 10:24:42] irishsia : cryptokeeper: Anyway, I didn't see your heads-up but appreciate that you did that. I hope you made some gravy from it!
[2017-02-08 10:24:54] cryptokeeper : BitFan: there u go!!! so it is fully true
[2017-02-08 10:25:05] cryptokeeper : irishsia: I did! thank u..
[2017-02-08 10:25:12] cryptokeeper : many people were razzing me hard and calling me a noob and a BSer
[2017-02-08 10:25:24] cryptokeeper : they will wake up and eat humble pie for breakfast now
[2017-02-08 10:25:47] BitFan : cryptokeeper: that's called insider trading
[2017-02-08 10:26:06] BitFan : but you shared the news here
[2017-02-08 10:26:18] BitFan : again with no sources
[2017-02-08 10:26:33] cryptokeeper : ?
[2017-02-08 10:26:36] BitFan : anyway fuck pboc
[2017-02-08 10:26:41] cryptokeeper : hehe
[2017-02-08 10:26:51] -_- : Someone betting big COIN won't happen
[2017-02-08 10:27:52] BTC-Noob : time to long x100
[2017-02-08 10:28:09] faggot : BTC-Noob: Literally what I'm doing
[2017-02-08 10:28:12] rasdasd : guy who shorts COIN is smart
[2017-02-08 10:28:12] faggot : So far going strong
[2017-02-08 10:28:25] rasdasd : they are gonna drop it to 1 and pump to 100
[2017-02-08 10:28:26] cryptokeeper : ya... dont short this shit either
[2017-02-08 10:28:35] cryptokeeper : HODL
[2017-02-08 10:28:47] cryptokeeper : this was a gifting
[2017-02-08 10:33:08] aethlios : I am buying 25,000 at 5
[2017-02-08 10:33:30] aethlios : and 25,000 at 2
[2017-02-08 10:35:50] itsfall : aethlios: and then rekt
[2017-02-08 10:36:09] aethlios : itsfall: no margin calls because 100% margin.
[2017-02-08 10:36:33] messiaen8844 : nice, great stuff on COINH17
[2017-02-08 10:36:37] itsfall : aethlios: nice
[2017-02-08 10:36:46] shery : who knows what happens next
[2017-02-08 10:36:47] messiaen8844 : kudos to bitmex for this prediction market
[2017-02-08 10:37:37] messiaen8844 : degens have found a new home here
[2017-02-08 10:37:49] rasdasd : easy money if you short COIN here
[2017-02-08 10:37:56] l3f : messiaen8844: Chat iq will keep dropping
[2017-02-08 10:38:22] aethlios : we trade everything.....
[2017-02-08 10:38:32] l3f : aethlios: what's the play with COIN?
[2017-02-08 10:38:44] rasdasd : l3f: it can be traded between 1 and 100
[2017-02-08 10:38:49] l3f : so if I think 50% then do I buy or sell?
[2017-02-08 10:39:10] aethlios : l3f: it's like binary option. if coin accepted settles at 100, if not at zero.
[2017-02-08 10:39:39] aethlios : so 5 is a 5% probability, we buy and sell probability
[2017-02-08 10:39:43] messiaen8844 : rasdasd: nah, you set a very low bid, wait for liquidation and they you make a very assymetric bet on approval
[2017-02-08 10:40:05] l3f : aethlios: so if I sold and I'm on -ve and it settles at 100 do I pay up?
[2017-02-08 10:40:45] messiaen8844 : if it settles at their 1 or 0, it's a binary outcome with assymetric risk-reward...
[2017-02-08 10:40:47] micmix : no liquidations on COIN, you have to post full margin
[2017-02-08 10:41:06] messiaen8844 : ah, ok
[2017-02-08 10:41:12] j8 : yeah it's like trading with training wheels
[2017-02-08 10:41:41] j8 : fixed downside, fixed upside
[2017-02-08 10:41:48] l3f : no stop losses
[2017-02-08 10:41:49] l3f : 100% gambling
[2017-02-08 10:41:59] aethlios : l3f: don't get you, what do you mean??
[2017-02-08 10:42:13] l3f : aethlios: Suppose I sell 1 Contract at 50
[2017-02-08 10:42:34] j8 : it's just a different kind of bet. it's a discrete bet instead of betting on continuous price
[2017-02-08 10:42:53] l3f : At settlement suppose it ends up at 100. I lose the margin I posted I'm assuming
[2017-02-08 10:43:11] aethlios : l3f: they keep a 0.005 as margin so you lose only that.
[2017-02-08 10:43:14] messiaen8844 : meanwhile Augur remains vapourware lol, while others take its place
[2017-02-08 10:43:16] l3f : I keep the profits from the sale and the margin if it settles at 0
[2017-02-08 10:43:34] l3f : Ok selling would be writing an option at X% probability
[2017-02-08 10:43:58] aethlios : l3f: margin is 100%, so bitmex holds in margin your maximum loss
[2017-02-08 10:44:33] l3f : Ok I get it
[2017-02-08 10:45:06] l3f : How high I sell controls the my gain
[2017-02-08 10:45:21] j8 : buying at 50% is even odds, buying at 25% is 3:1, selling at 75% is 3:1 on NO, etc
[2017-02-08 10:47:29] l3f : And sellers have no IV crush advantage, no time decay advantage
[2017-02-08 10:47:43] l3f : nty bitmex
[2017-02-08 10:47:54] l3f : gl to everyone buying them
[2017-02-08 10:47:57] j8 : the only complicated part is that the outcome is correlated with the bitcoin price. so the payout for YES will probably be bigger in usd terms
[2017-02-08 10:49:15] j8 : so it would actually make sense to buy it a bit higher than the expected probability
[2017-02-08 10:50:26] shery : bitmex lagging! selling pressure here !
[2017-02-08 10:50:53] Tux26 : shery: wait until the short squeeze :)
[2017-02-08 10:51:53] shery : Tux26: I guess we will be moving sideways till any statement from meeting is out!
[2017-02-08 10:52:35] Tux26 : shery: possible. I also do not for certain expect the short squeeze in the next hour or so, I just think it's likely we'll see one.
[2017-02-08 10:55:28] shery : Tux26: true!
[2017-02-08 10:56:00] BitMEX_Wally : j8: The settlement fee is 0.25% but if it settles at 0
[2017-02-08 10:56:09] BitMEX_Wally : that's 0...
[2017-02-08 10:58:17] j8 : oh, thats a bit odd
[2017-02-08 10:59:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 1000 @ 1031.01
[2017-02-08 10:59:51] neox : back to the roots
[2017-02-08 11:00:16] j8 : BitMEX_Wally: fees aren't listed.. anywhere that i can see
[2017-02-08 11:00:59] j8 : i think you're mistaken, it must be zero :P
[2017-02-08 11:01:50] Ahhere : Lol we mooning again ladies? You guise r crazy
[2017-02-08 11:02:05] Ahhere : Cleared out a bunch of open interest in that dip
[2017-02-08 11:02:07] adil : should've longed x100 instead of x50...
[2017-02-08 11:02:22] Ahhere : #stronghands hodl me
[2017-02-08 11:05:55] adil : how far up do you guys it is gonna go?
[2017-02-08 11:06:08] shery : adil: kya
[2017-02-08 11:06:27] adil : kya?
[2017-02-08 11:06:46] adil : @shery
[2017-02-08 11:09:16] micmix : adil: the only fair price for bitcoin is ∞
[2017-02-08 11:10:40] adil : micmix: yeah i know but i meant like after this plunge that it just had a few hours ago, how far do you guys think ir is gonna rise again, what's the next wall?
[2017-02-08 11:11:25] faggot : 10000000000
[2017-02-08 11:11:37] Dynamix : next stop for btc is 1100 :)
[2017-02-08 11:11:39] longbydefault : show him the video faggot
[2017-02-08 11:12:21] Nerve : adil: 1080
[2017-02-08 11:12:36] Nerve : I hope tonight
[2017-02-08 11:12:37] micmix : adil: no one can say, that's why buying the dips will low leverage works best if you want to avoid REKT
[2017-02-08 11:13:28] micmix : *with low leverage
[2017-02-08 11:13:40] l3f : micmix: selling short at tops makes money twice as fast when it jumps down the elevator
[2017-02-08 11:13:52] l3f : But requires a bit more technique
[2017-02-08 11:13:56] l3f : like insider info
[2017-02-08 11:14:08] micmix : shorting tops much harder
[2017-02-08 11:16:03] micmix : not as dangerous with inverse contracts as on spot but still tricky
[2017-02-08 11:16:10] Dynamix : its goinggoing down to 1030
[2017-02-08 11:16:16] Dynamix : then up to 1050 ..
[2017-02-08 11:20:45] tommygunn : 1050 looks like first stop, stamp almost there
[2017-02-08 11:24:42] Tetsuo : http://www.coindesk.com/trader-sues-okcoin-lost-litecoin/
[2017-02-08 11:25:19] tommygunn : your link goes 404
[2017-02-08 11:27:03] -_- : COIN yes or no could happen sooner than March 11
[2017-02-08 11:27:15] germanjew : lol the woodchipper got regexed in that link :)
[2017-02-08 11:27:37] rullwull : Tetsuo: this user may have an open algo orders
[2017-02-08 11:28:01] Tetsuo : i have no opinion on this, just wanted to share the link
[2017-02-08 11:28:19] rullwull : thanks, this is just my guess
[2017-02-08 11:28:49] rullwull : in okc cny you may have unlimited number of algo orders
[2017-02-08 11:29:00] rullwull : on futures max 6
[2017-02-08 11:30:40] RoftheN : BTC
[2017-02-08 11:30:46] RoftheN : bitcoin
[2017-02-08 11:32:12] micmix : ^^^ no, 'bitcoin' is not filtered by BitMEX chat filter (yet). when COIN is approved BitMEX will replace 'bitcoin' with 'COIN!!!'
[2017-02-08 11:32:30] rullwull : micmix: why shorting spot is more dangerous?
[2017-02-08 11:32:52] micmix : loss is unlimited on spot
[2017-02-08 11:33:00] RoftheN : What is COIN?
[2017-02-08 11:33:19] Tetsuo : Its like Bitcoin without Bit
[2017-02-08 11:33:28] RoftheN : I no understand
[2017-02-08 11:33:35] RoftheN : What is bitcoin without bit?
[2017-02-08 11:33:36] tech.coin : https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/COIN_BH17
[2017-02-08 11:34:05] RoftheN : Thanks
[2017-02-08 11:34:28] MichaelKade : Hey
[2017-02-08 11:34:43] RoftheN : Winklevoss Bitcoin Shares (COIN ETF) This?
[2017-02-08 11:35:07] micmix : RoftheN: yes
[2017-02-08 11:35:13] RoftheN : Interesting
[2017-02-08 11:35:43] MichaelKade : faggot: Haha last night was good what where the chances of me working with your brother hahah
[2017-02-08 11:36:58] faggot : MichaelKade: We're literally are talking about this now dude
[2017-02-08 11:37:06] faggot : Strange coincidink
[2017-02-08 11:37:13] MichaelKade : He's a good lad bro, we couldn
[2017-02-08 11:37:24] MichaelKade : couldn't stop laughing today it was so good
[2017-02-08 11:38:02] faggot : MichaelKade: Apparently you called me a spastic
[2017-02-08 11:38:05] faggot : So cut
[2017-02-08 11:38:22] MichaelKade : faggot: well I take that back rip, it's a small world
[2017-02-08 11:38:37] MichaelKade : I'm waiting for tonights video as well
[2017-02-08 11:38:40] faggot : MichaelKade: yeah you better - tiny!
[2017-02-08 11:38:51] faggot : Probably a sad one because I ripped on the drop
[2017-02-08 11:38:56] faggot : You better have sybbed
[2017-02-08 11:39:01] faggot : subbed
[2017-02-08 11:39:13] MichaelKade : faggot: wasn't logged in to youtube haha
[2017-02-08 11:39:37] faggot : Log your ass in my boi
[2017-02-08 11:39:48] faggot : What positions you got open rn?
[2017-02-08 11:40:19] MichaelKade : Just XBTUSD, that's it your brother is teaching me the basics haha @faggot
[2017-02-08 11:41:09] faggot : MichaelKade: How much and what's your entry? Perps or futures?
[2017-02-08 11:42:08] l3f : did we manage to reduce @itsfall's balance to itszero yet?
[2017-02-08 11:42:35] itsfall : l3f: nope :P
[2017-02-08 11:42:40] laisee : 0.00000001
[2017-02-08 11:42:45] MichaelKade : faggot: I've got my position opened at 1017.00 and I've got long, honestly I'm a noob bro
[2017-02-08 11:42:52] itsfall : l3f: try harder
[2017-02-08 11:42:53] l3f : itsfall: they expect one of us in the wreckage brother
[2017-02-08 11:43:10] MichaelKade : The drop today around 6pm was disappointing
[2017-02-08 11:43:14] faggot : MichaelKade: all good, you got telegram?
[2017-02-08 11:43:15] itsfall : l3f: good luck :)
[2017-02-08 11:43:27] faggot : MichaelKade: Yeah, fkn destroyed me - goddam leverage
[2017-02-08 11:43:29] l3f : itsfall: I'm curious though, are you up or down?
[2017-02-08 11:43:43] itsfall : l3f: should i really post this in here?
[2017-02-08 11:43:48] l3f : Sure why not
[2017-02-08 11:43:50] MichaelKade : faggot: Yeah bro, I'll download it now one second
[2017-02-08 11:43:55] faggot : MichaelKade: Good
[2017-02-08 11:43:59] faggot : lmk when
[2017-02-08 11:44:07] itsfall : idk if this would be a good decision
[2017-02-08 11:44:17] l3f : itsfall: I'll assume you're up
[2017-02-08 11:44:25] l3f : because I want all of us to make money
[2017-02-08 11:44:31] MichaelKade : all g one sec
[2017-02-08 11:44:32] itsfall : l3f: thats right :)
[2017-02-08 11:44:51] itsfall : l3f: but when did i place my long? ;)
[2017-02-08 11:44:54] micmix : you can post your position, everyone here is always long anyway except few people
[2017-02-08 11:45:24] l3f : "[2017-02-07 14:33:16] l3f : We need a dump + news to get rekt really hard [2017-02-07 14:33:23] l3f : China can't dump anymore"
[2017-02-08 11:45:26] l3f : heh
[2017-02-08 11:45:37] neox : lets drop to 880 and check this statement
[2017-02-08 11:45:44] l3f : Well it looks like PBoC still has some ammo
[2017-02-08 11:46:12] MichaelKade : faggot: yeah got it now
[2017-02-08 11:46:13] faggot : l3f: No don't tell me that
[2017-02-08 11:46:23] itsfall : l3f: all panic, nothing more
[2017-02-08 11:46:44] micmix : it wasn't even PBoC ammo, traders just heard sounds of gunfire somewhere very far away ;-)
[2017-02-08 11:46:50] faggot : MichaelKade: message me on twitter
[2017-02-08 11:47:34] MichaelKade : faggot: Okay
[2017-02-08 11:47:46] Dibbidooo : 10 contracts buy at 1023,sold at 1035 with 10x leverage, but only 0.0001? why not 0.001?
[2017-02-08 11:48:05] Dibbidooo : revenue
[2017-02-08 11:48:20] neox : 10 contract are 10 contraccts ... no matter if you buy them with 10x or 100x xD
[2017-02-08 11:48:34] faggot : XD
[2017-02-08 11:48:45] Dynamix : Dibbidooo: lololol I done the same mistake
[2017-02-08 11:48:47] micmix : Dibbidooo: leverage doesn't affect profit, it's calculated using position size. use the calculator above order controls to check
[2017-02-08 11:48:50] Dibbidooo : huh, whats leverage for then :D
[2017-02-08 11:48:53] Dynamix : from 1000 to 900 with only 70 contracts
[2017-02-08 11:48:55] Dynamix : at 50x lvg :))
[2017-02-08 11:49:01] Dibbidooo : ohhh
[2017-02-08 11:49:04] Dynamix : Fucking bitmex :@@@@
[2017-02-08 11:49:27] Sultan Pepper : What the fuck did I wake up to
[2017-02-08 11:49:28] micmix : Dynamix: don't blame bitmex, that's how leverage works everywhere
[2017-02-08 11:49:37] Dynamix : not really
[2017-02-08 11:49:44] Dynamix : I thought contracts is USD
[2017-02-08 11:49:51] Dynamix : i usually traded on 1broker
[2017-02-08 11:50:09] Dibbidooo : so got same result as normal buy but with Liquidation risk@ 10% change? ?
[2017-02-08 11:50:32] micmix : exactly
[2017-02-08 11:50:47] micmix : next time buy more
[2017-02-08 11:50:50] Dibbidooo : makes sense... (not) but thx
[2017-02-08 11:50:54] Dibbidooo : :D
[2017-02-08 11:51:33] micmix : you can change leverage when you have open position, that will change liquidation price
[2017-02-08 11:52:36] Sultan Pepper : I had limit orders all the way down. Why didn't they get sold to me?
[2017-02-08 11:53:15] Dibbidooo : but then i could buy on normal exchange as bit, 1% change will be 1% Profit like everywhere too mhmmh
[2017-02-08 11:55:16] micmix : Dibbidooo: no, you can deposit 1 bitcoin here and buy 100 bitcoin worth of contracts (100x leverage). can't do that on normal exchange
[2017-02-08 11:55:56] Dibbidooo : ah, so its only for buying more, not 10x %, understood
[2017-02-08 11:56:18] micmix : yep, buying/selling more than your balance
[2017-02-08 11:56:22] neox : you own 1 BTC but with 10x leverage you can buy or sell 10 BTC
[2017-02-08 11:56:31] neox : exactly
[2017-02-08 11:56:32] Dibbidooo : to get more reven. i have to buy more as i nornally could with deposit
[2017-02-08 11:56:46] Dibbidooo : now i got it
[2017-02-08 11:57:11] micmix : yep, you got it. deposit 1 btc and start trading like you have 10
[2017-02-08 11:58:43] aethlios : last chance to buy cheap if this dump continue, but higher low expected, maybe quarterly 800 is a good buy.
[2017-02-08 11:59:58] homen3 : who is the writer of bitmex contracts?
[2017-02-08 12:00:37] internetexplorer : 1010 soon?
[2017-02-08 12:01:17] Dynamix : internetexplorer: nop :)
[2017-02-08 12:01:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1 @ 1035.37 :punch: :whale:
[2017-02-08 12:02:18] BitFan : aethlios: you short now?
[2017-02-08 12:02:40] shery : nice funding rate for shorters!
[2017-02-08 12:02:48] aethlios : BitFan: no short, just try a long entry, now just trading the premium discount
[2017-02-08 12:03:02] itsfall : aethlios: everybody's shorting
[2017-02-08 12:03:13] itsfall : aethlios: i think we go down to 1000 or below
[2017-02-08 12:04:07] aethlios : itsfall: lepen will win, build longs for that senario, wil kill euro.
[2017-02-08 12:04:42] itsfall : aethlios: no long orders getting rekt now, because everyone's shorting the shit out
[2017-02-08 12:04:54] itsfall : idk why they do that
[2017-02-08 12:05:03] aethlios : itsfall: 805 long the cheaper, march or spot
[2017-02-08 12:05:26] itsfall : what?
[2017-02-08 12:08:07] aethlios : itsfall: 805 a nice long entry
[2017-02-08 12:08:18] itsfall : you?
[2017-02-08 12:08:43] aethlios : itsfall: I have no position, but I like 800 to go long.
[2017-02-08 12:08:54] itsfall : oh ok
[2017-02-08 12:08:55] itsfall : ^^
[2017-02-08 12:11:36] neox : ~.~
[2017-02-08 12:12:02] neox : so boring ...
[2017-02-08 12:13:27] Dynamix : b tc to 1010
[2017-02-08 12:18:44] neox : Dynamix: do you have an open position?
[2017-02-08 12:22:45] bg5 : ugh busy morning, traded the surf, was up but now down. probably wont trade again until news tomorrow
[2017-02-08 12:25:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5000 @ 1035.57
[2017-02-08 12:30:40] itsfall : Rekt: another soul claimed
[2017-02-08 12:31:08] Dynamix : lolol
[2017-02-08 12:31:31] itsfall : yep
[2017-02-08 12:38:53] rasdasd : long that COIN thing
[2017-02-08 12:39:09] itsfall : rasdasd: so that you can short and rekt us?
[2017-02-08 12:39:42] rasdasd : itsfall: if I only had enough money lol
[2017-02-08 12:39:48] rasdasd : for that
[2017-02-08 12:40:05] itsfall : rasdasd: maybe you have and try to troll, you know this is the trollbox
[2017-02-08 12:40:35] rasdasd : you are probably short already
[2017-02-08 12:41:14] itsfall : no i dont care about the c0in etf
[2017-02-08 12:45:35] charlyko : short we go
[2017-02-08 12:46:25] itsfall : long we go
[2017-02-08 12:49:25] itsfall : charlyko: wanna get rekt?
[2017-02-08 12:50:25] faggot : Is the calculator not working for anyone else?
[2017-02-08 13:05:23] BitFan : okcoin doesn't move
[2017-02-08 13:08:20] saint paul : mant longs rekt?
[2017-02-08 13:08:24] saint paul : many
[2017-02-08 13:08:47] neox : time to move the woodchipper into the other direction du crush some shorts? :D
[2017-02-08 13:13:26] neox : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b30z0-a1FtQ
[2017-02-08 13:15:02] aethlios : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfBuvRk1thQ bulls now.
[2017-02-08 13:15:33] bingbongfly : short squeeze back to 1100 imo
[2017-02-08 13:15:39] BitFan : check this out http://www.coindesk.com/chinas-central-bank-meets-bitcoin-exchanges/ …
[2017-02-08 13:15:57] itsfall : BitFan: possible fud?
[2017-02-08 13:15:58] bingbongfly : nice, good stuff
[2017-02-08 13:16:04] bingbongfly : It's positive news
[2017-02-08 13:16:28] BitFan : well woodchipper and btcc didn't even participate
[2017-02-08 13:17:34] BitFan : itsfall: we ll see
[2017-02-08 13:17:48] itsfall : bingbongfly: the news are some hours old.. it caused the massive drop
[2017-02-08 13:17:55] itsfall : BitFan: yep
[2017-02-08 13:18:35] elmorte : >At press time, the price appeared to dip slightly on the news,
[2017-02-08 13:18:44] elmorte : lol
[2017-02-08 13:19:12] itsfall : elmorte: 80$, just a little bit
[2017-02-08 13:19:13] itsfall : you know
[2017-02-08 13:19:30] itsfall : ^^
[2017-02-08 13:19:53] elmorte : Chump change, really...
[2017-02-08 13:20:14] elmorte : You can tell it's a crypto publication
[2017-02-08 13:22:51] Ahhere : bingbongfly: market frozen.. what are these chinamen gonna say? seems gambly to bet big now. FUDalicious
[2017-02-08 13:23:24] rapidtrades : has anyone traded at kraken on margin?
[2017-02-08 13:24:44] saint paul : 920 in less than a week
[2017-02-08 13:24:47] saint paul : I use margin on kraken
[2017-02-08 13:24:49] saint paul : not bad
[2017-02-08 13:24:54] saint paul : just enigne is too slow
[2017-02-08 13:24:59] saint paul : sometimes
[2017-02-08 13:25:18] l3f : rapidtrades: rapidshorts
[2017-02-08 13:25:19] l3f : dump target?
[2017-02-08 13:26:53] rapidtrades : 880
[2017-02-08 13:27:06] rapidtrades : saint paul: do they show ur liquidation price like on here?
[2017-02-08 13:30:22] hh : Come on guys, when is the next dump? bring itn on!!
[2017-02-08 13:30:54] yungyang : rapidtrades: vindication
[2017-02-08 13:31:08] yungyang : wheres that queer hunt
[2017-02-08 13:32:02] golem : I see the new product Bitcoin ETF. could you tell me what the pricing source is ?
[2017-02-08 13:32:08] saint paul : rapidtrades: no
[2017-02-08 13:32:18] saint paul : they have a % of your
[2017-02-08 13:32:20] saint paul : margin left
[2017-02-08 13:32:36] saint paul : at less than 40 % you get liquidated
[2017-02-08 13:32:43] saint paul : or 20 %
[2017-02-08 13:32:46] saint paul : i dont remember
[2017-02-08 13:32:52] saint paul : never got the call
[2017-02-08 13:33:04] y1uy : why is quarterly so low?
[2017-02-08 13:33:06] y1uy : weird af
[2017-02-08 13:33:49] golem : y1uy: funding rate negative 2x in a row
[2017-02-08 13:35:08] y1uy : that means that u get 0.13% of your position?
[2017-02-08 13:35:56] rapidtrades : saint paul: and when u get liquidated is there a penalty? like here u lose ur margin
[2017-02-08 13:36:06] rapidtrades : or do they just dump on market
[2017-02-08 13:36:16] rapidtrades : and give back whats left
[2017-02-08 13:36:29] rapidtrades : cos 40% is rather higher
[2017-02-08 13:36:32] rapidtrades : high*
[2017-02-08 13:37:30] sleger : rapidtrades: should i change my chat name to nostradamus or god ?
[2017-02-08 13:38:10] -_- : Quarterly so low because people don't learn. Last couple times it was at a discount it went to a premium.
[2017-02-08 13:38:14] BitFan : sleger: Cryptodamus
[2017-02-08 13:38:23] sleger : ahah
[2017-02-08 13:38:43] BitFan : sleger: what did you predict?
[2017-02-08 13:38:47] -_- : Maybe this time it's different. Keep shorting and find out
[2017-02-08 13:38:55] sleger : BitFan: pretty much everything
[2017-02-08 13:39:09] rapidtrades : nice call
[2017-02-08 13:39:15] rapidtrades : almost got the top
[2017-02-08 13:39:16] BitFan : sleger: so you shorted from 1060+?
[2017-02-08 13:39:22] heheh lo : any TA guy here to share insights
[2017-02-08 13:39:42] sleger : BitFan: i rarely short bitcoin, but i closed my long there yes, 1062
[2017-02-08 13:39:43] golem : y1uy: no
[2017-02-08 13:40:01] sleger : rapidtrades: was there ADL this time ?
[2017-02-08 13:40:11] rapidtrades : prolly not
[2017-02-08 13:40:25] rapidtrades : my entry is too low to be ADLed
[2017-02-08 13:40:56] sleger : if nobody complained then there wasnt
[2017-02-08 13:41:02] BitFan : sleger: good call guess now you are flat
[2017-02-08 13:41:12] rapidtrades : yeah nobody complained
[2017-02-08 13:41:22] sleger : BitFan: no i got some shorts closed by adl towards the bottom
[2017-02-08 13:41:32] sleger : so im actually long
[2017-02-08 13:42:17] sleger : and with discount so big its more likely to go up
[2017-02-08 13:42:24] BitFan : sleger: at least rapidtrades will pay you funding
[2017-02-08 13:42:37] sleger : no im short the swap
[2017-02-08 13:42:38] rapidtrades : BitFan: the hell i will
[2017-02-08 13:42:45] BitFan : lol
[2017-02-08 13:42:54] rapidtrades : I have planz b1tch, big planz
[2017-02-08 13:43:15] sleger : huge discount, china 28$ ahead, i wouldnt be short
[2017-02-08 13:43:50] rapidtrades : whats so huge about it? its only 14
[2017-02-08 13:44:01] sleger : rapidtrades: 12$ for 2 days
[2017-02-08 13:44:11] rapidtrades : ah on okc u mean
[2017-02-08 13:44:12] sleger : 40$ discount on quaterly
[2017-02-08 13:44:24] rapidtrades : well they know shit man
[2017-02-08 13:44:45] rapidtrades : if they're staying short, u know more shit is gonna go down over there
[2017-02-08 13:45:31] 24hourz : XBTH17 is spooked look at that discount
[2017-02-08 13:46:07] 24hourz : caught a knife and now the price is very spooked
[2017-02-08 13:47:00] -_- : someone building a large position. open contracts almost back to 6 millions
[2017-02-08 13:47:02] -_- : xbth17
[2017-02-08 13:47:45] rapidtrades : -_-: what was it before
[2017-02-08 13:47:58] -_- : lowest i saw was 5,100,000
[2017-02-08 13:48:18] -_- : was around 6,200,000 before the dump
[2017-02-08 13:50:42] -_- : this could go sideways for a while it seems
[2017-02-08 13:50:49] rapidtrades : yikes...wtf march
[2017-02-08 13:50:59] rapidtrades : just keeps sinking
[2017-02-08 13:54:49] -_- : short might be the play
[2017-02-08 13:55:07] -_- : gotta lot of longs looking to bail next time this goes under 1000
[2017-02-08 13:56:05] -_- : or else pump to squeeze dem shorts
[2017-02-08 13:56:18] -_- : as this turns out to be a nice little shakeout
[2017-02-08 13:57:46] sleger : rapidtrades: cryptokeeper was part right
[2017-02-08 13:59:02] sleger : https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-08/china-central-bank-said-to-call-bitcoin-exchanges-for-more-talks
[2017-02-08 13:59:28] charlyko : shorting here.
[2017-02-08 14:06:32] Snookie : Hi all
[2017-02-08 14:06:47] Snookie : here is only about trading no exchange like Poloniex
[2017-02-08 14:06:49] Snookie : ?
[2017-02-08 14:08:49] BitMEX_Greg : Snookie: There is no exchange of funds here on BitMEX. You buy and sell derivative contracts denominated in Bitcoin
[2017-02-08 14:09:21] Snookie : ok Thanks
[2017-02-08 14:11:17] 24hourz : BitMEX_Greg: Is there an arbitrage system or is ti all based on funding cost ?
[2017-02-08 14:13:39] BitMEX_Greg : 24hourz: We don't offer any arbitrage systems as such. Our XBTUSD swap product does have funding periods however
[2017-02-08 14:14:54] Sultan Pepper : Not a good day. I totally shit the bed here last night, then woke up and actually shit the bed because of some nasty sandwich I ate...
[2017-02-08 14:16:20] rapidgains : lol
[2017-02-08 14:17:06] Sultan Pepper : I thought it was a fart
[2017-02-08 14:17:15] Sultan Pepper : nope, chocolate rain
[2017-02-08 14:17:23] rapidtrades : Sultan Pepper: why do u sleep naked nasty
[2017-02-08 14:17:30] herpinator : Sultan Pepper: D:
[2017-02-08 14:17:46] neox : why do we have to get this information from you ... damn son :(
[2017-02-08 14:18:02] Sultan Pepper : i've slept naked my entire life! It's much more comfortable
[2017-02-08 14:18:11] rapidtrades : eww
[2017-02-08 14:18:15] Sultan Pepper : sorry for the deets
[2017-02-08 14:18:39] Sultan Pepper : just figured i'd share my wonderful day
[2017-02-08 14:19:19] Sultan Pepper : Rapidtrades: ever try it? I clean my sheets regularly
[2017-02-08 14:20:03] startChat : What is Bitmex Index?
[2017-02-08 14:20:35] Farzad : hey guys, does anyone remember what was the name of BTC future contract before XBTH17 ?
[2017-02-08 14:20:55] martyix : XBTZ16
[2017-02-08 14:21:17] Sultan Pepper : Why *does* my leverage change when I have it on fixed?
[2017-02-08 14:21:51] BitMEX_Wally : Sultan Pepper: Your effective leverage changes with unrealisedPNL
[2017-02-08 14:21:54] Farzad : martyix: ty
[2017-02-08 14:22:12] Sultan Pepper : ah ok, thanks
[2017-02-08 14:22:19] sleger : Users:932, we might reach a new peak stupidity
[2017-02-08 14:22:28] BitMEX_Wally : if you open a 100x position with 1% margin and it goes up 1% you now have 2% margin in the position so it's effective 50x
[2017-02-08 14:23:16] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/HNUvE9Vk/ a retrace to 890-900 for spot.
[2017-02-08 14:24:41] Sultan Pepper : Bitmex_Wally: how high can I ride up before ADL?
[2017-02-08 14:24:53] itsfall : aethlios: when did you draw that?
[2017-02-08 14:25:03] aethlios : itsfall: now.
[2017-02-08 14:25:13] itsfall : aethlios: ok
[2017-02-08 14:25:33] Farzad : I have a question guys, does the price of XBTH17 match spot price XBTUSD on expiry date ?
[2017-02-08 14:26:02] startChat : XBTH17 is a XBT/USD futures contract settling on the .XBT30M Index.
[2017-02-08 14:26:10] aethlios : Farzad: will match index, up the xbt/usd spot
[2017-02-08 14:27:17] Farzad : Thanks
[2017-02-08 14:28:33] aethlios : let's hope pboc will offer us a nice decent long entry below 900
[2017-02-08 14:29:51] l3f : aethlios: But they gave us 720 already
[2017-02-08 14:30:46] Farzad : Please correct me if I am wrong, XBTH17 is 1027 and XBTUSD is 1037. so If I buy 1 BTC worth of XBTH17 and sell 1 BTC worth of XBTUSD right now and wait until settlement date, I will make $10, no matter what. am I correct ? (assume we have no funding)
[2017-02-08 14:31:20] l3f : Farzad: Yep
[2017-02-08 14:31:43] l3f : Market is in contango but there's no cost of carrying the goods
[2017-02-08 14:32:04] rapidtrades : ofc there is a cost
[2017-02-08 14:32:05] l3f : So you're free to arb that to your profit
[2017-02-08 14:32:12] rapidtrades : f*cking newbs
[2017-02-08 14:32:15] l3f : Fine, counterparty risk
[2017-02-08 14:32:20] Farzad : actually it is in backwardation right now
[2017-02-08 14:32:34] l3f : I always get those confused
[2017-02-08 14:32:37] aethlios : Farzad: no you are wrong if xbtusd you ,ean the swap here, because funding can change the final P&L
[2017-02-08 14:32:43] laisee : got that backwardss l3f
[2017-02-08 14:33:02] l3f : laisee: yeah I messed that on up
[2017-02-08 14:33:17] Farzad : aethlios: I said assuming we have no funding.
[2017-02-08 14:33:56] aethlios : Farzad: buy okcoin march, sell spot finex or stamp and earn 40 to 50 usd
[2017-02-08 14:34:07] itsfall : l3f: already rekt? ^^
[2017-02-08 14:34:10] laisee : no worries /// tie to buy XBTH17 & sell spot
[2017-02-08 14:36:21] Farzad : aethlios: What is woodchipper ?
[2017-02-08 14:36:36] aethlios : Farzad: O K C O I N
[2017-02-08 14:37:02] neox : PBoC is the woodchipper here :D
[2017-02-08 14:37:34] l3f : itsfall: yep :(((((
[2017-02-08 14:37:36] aethlios : pboc interventions will have a lower effect each time
[2017-02-08 14:37:49] itsfall : l3f: i'm sorry for your loss
[2017-02-08 14:38:07] 24hourz : become immune through desensitizing by the PBOC
[2017-02-08 14:38:12] l3f : itsfall: donate to my rebuild fund
[2017-02-08 14:38:25] itsfall : l3f: or to mine
[2017-02-08 14:38:26] itsfall : :P
[2017-02-08 14:38:31] aethlios : pboc is bailing out shorts
[2017-02-08 14:38:48] golem : BitMEX_Wally: can you tell me what is a Price source for your new product Bitcoin ETF ?
[2017-02-08 14:38:52] neox : my rebuilding fund was opened first! so pay to mine :P
[2017-02-08 14:40:12] neox : need money to troll everyone :O
[2017-02-08 14:40:37] l3f : aethlios: I think btc will fully retrace that dump in about 12 hours
[2017-02-08 14:41:11] Adriana : Longing Swap and shorting XBTH17 has become a better practice