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[2017-02-08 08:48:00] 24hourz : the 30 min okcoin candlelamo
[2017-02-08 08:48:17] l3f : Anybody else caught the knife?
[2017-02-08 08:48:21] bingbongfly : 24hourz: okc did a new high haha x)
[2017-02-08 08:48:29] bingbongfly : zero liquidity
[2017-02-08 08:48:48] 24hourz : that was almost a 95 dollar difference in 30 min candle
[2017-02-08 08:49:07] cryptokeeper : yuppers
[2017-02-08 08:49:13] cryptokeeper : amazing shit
[2017-02-08 08:49:16] elmorte : l3f: only about a quarter of what I hoped to...
[2017-02-08 08:49:33] Ahhere : l3f: yes
[2017-02-08 08:50:22] ross : Made more btc this morning than the whole
[2017-02-08 08:50:25] ross : of yesterday
[2017-02-08 08:50:32] cryptokeeper : that was the trade of 2017 so far
[2017-02-08 08:50:35] rapidtrades : that was a pitiful DOMO
[2017-02-08 08:50:46] cryptokeeper : all in 20min
[2017-02-08 08:50:48] ett1 : ross: dont go breaking any records
[2017-02-08 08:51:17] bg5 : I reckon the only thing holding btc up was that a lot of orders were placed around 1000, they are now gone, likely to blow past 1000 next time
[2017-02-08 08:51:35] rangle : it hit below 1000
[2017-02-08 08:51:37] rangle : here
[2017-02-08 08:51:49] rapidtrades : here doesn't mattter much
[2017-02-08 08:52:22] ett1 : he, well always go above/below on mex when things get wild
[2017-02-08 08:52:28] rangle : right, price isnt driven from here
[2017-02-08 08:52:43] ett1 : stamp is the most "real" price IMO
[2017-02-08 08:52:51] bg5 : I mean bfx
[2017-02-08 08:52:59] shery : That wall
[2017-02-08 08:53:14] ett1 : bg5: cant trust those crooks anymore
[2017-02-08 08:55:03] Rookie : bitcoin all good now? safe to sleep?
[2017-02-08 08:55:05] heheh lo : ett1: the power of x100
[2017-02-08 08:55:28] -_- : Rookie: yeah good for a few hours. come back in like 3-6 hours for the next round of fun
[2017-02-08 08:56:33] Rookie : -_-: ok thanks, I'll catch some zzz
[2017-02-08 09:00:30] cryptokeeper : night
[2017-02-08 09:00:41] rangle : is bitcoin volatility contract up for trading ever again?
[2017-02-08 09:01:11] micmix : rangle: don't think so, no one wants to sell it
[2017-02-08 09:01:47] rangle : that would be hard to make work
[2017-02-08 09:05:10] l3f : 9 USD below index
[2017-02-08 09:05:12] men : next leg down incoming?
[2017-02-08 09:05:14] l3f : swap so bearish
[2017-02-08 09:05:30] shery : Lol so much down here!
[2017-02-08 09:06:10] Nerve : Dangerous shit-coun
[2017-02-08 09:06:19] Nerve : *coin
[2017-02-08 09:06:45] -_- : bitmex going down sunday
[2017-02-08 09:07:43] neox : bitmex or bitcoin? ... you wanna ddos bitmex? damn!
[2017-02-08 09:08:11] cryptokeeper : When closing position your PNL is credited or taken away from mark price correct?
[2017-02-08 09:08:35] cryptokeeper : not last
[2017-02-08 09:09:19] -_- : only 2 big rekts on most recent drop
[2017-02-08 09:10:14] internetexplorer : next stop 1010
[2017-02-08 09:10:18] .. : not sure how low mark price went tho
[2017-02-08 09:10:36] -_- : anyone seeing this going up from here
[2017-02-08 09:10:52] cryptokeeper : i went long off that dip... not sure.. run a tight stop.
[2017-02-08 09:13:18] Ahhere : -_-: yes
[2017-02-08 09:13:39] Ahhere : Always up history has proven constant
[2017-02-08 09:15:02] Ahhere : Anybody get in long at the teens
[2017-02-08 09:15:18] JuriFX : strange, I had a limit order TP on the futures at 1075.92, price wnt up to 1077.20 but my order was not filled, how is this possible? What happned?
[2017-02-08 09:15:32] JuriFX : just before the crash hehe
[2017-02-08 09:15:59] rapidgains : flux: lmao
[2017-02-08 09:16:44] -_- : JuriFX: was it following mark price
[2017-02-08 09:16:45] -_- : or last price
[2017-02-08 09:16:58] JuriFX : last price
[2017-02-08 09:17:21] JuriFX : really should not have happened :(
[2017-02-08 09:17:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 16300 @ 1028.01
[2017-02-08 09:17:31] ross : Lol
[2017-02-08 09:18:08] ross : Rekts incoming
[2017-02-08 09:18:25] JuriFX : anyone from Bitmex here that could explain why a limit order is not triggered if the bid price was way above my sell limit?
[2017-02-08 09:18:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 100000 @ 1026.89 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-02-08 09:18:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 30 @ 1025.31
[2017-02-08 09:18:58] -_- : lol wow
[2017-02-08 09:19:05] -_- : that's why you dont pick long
[2017-02-08 09:19:37] bingbongfly : EPIC REKT
[2017-02-08 09:19:48] bingbongfly : I think we'll just chop for a while, don't overleverage
[2017-02-08 09:19:51] rapidgains : damn
[2017-02-08 09:20:39] .. : JuriFX: im new here so not sure, but my guess would be that it hit bitmex price but not mark price?
[2017-02-08 09:21:49] .. : ah trigger price just bitmex price i guess? nvm idk :x
[2017-02-08 09:27:47] BitMEX_Wally : JuriFX: Limit orders rest in the book and are not triggered, they just get executed. Take profit limit orders can be triggered by last price or mark price, it is your choice/
[2017-02-08 09:28:10] zanza : ^ this.
[2017-02-08 09:28:52] JuriFX : BitMEX_Wally: yes sorry I mean my order did not execute despite last price being above :(
[2017-02-08 09:29:16] JuriFX : maybe I'm missing something or this was an error?
[2017-02-08 09:29:33] BitMEX_Wally : I'll check the history
[2017-02-08 09:29:51] JuriFX : Just peanuts money for testing purpose but still, order was not executed
[2017-02-08 09:29:59] JuriFX : thanks
[2017-02-08 09:30:19] BitMEX_Wally : JuriFX: You submitted the sell order at 1019.45 and then amended it to 1019.01
[2017-02-08 09:30:51] JuriFX : yes to get our at BE after my price was not filled
[2017-02-08 09:30:52] cryptokeeper : BitMEX_Wally: if the mark price is above last price... what takes effect for profit/loss when closing? mark? right?
[2017-02-08 09:31:15] JuriFX : but it was at 1075.92
[2017-02-08 09:32:02] BitMEX_Wally : JuriFX: You're talking about your Take Profit Limit? Not your Limit...
[2017-02-08 09:33:24] Noobz : cryptokeeper: Mark Price gives you PNL, but closing happens in the orderbook. So the profit/loss is based on the actual trade and not the markprice
[2017-02-08 09:33:40] cryptokeeper : roger that
[2017-02-08 09:33:52] BitMEX_Wally : It triggered at and entered the order book at at 2017.02.08 01:11:20.112221000 UTC at a price of 1075.92 and was then canceled at 2017.02.08 09:12:14.375128000 UTC
[2017-02-08 09:34:56] tech.coin : Good morning everyone.
[2017-02-08 09:35:04] BitMEX_Wally : JuriFX: I do not see any trades at 1075.92 or above during that time
[2017-02-08 09:35:18] JuriFX : BitMEX_Wally: yes I had a take profit limit witrhbtrigger price at 1074.5 and price 1075.92, then this morning (for me) I saw it wasn't triggered so I exited the position (closed) with a limit order
[2017-02-08 09:35:47] BitMEX_Wally : JuriFX: Highest trade was 1074.00
[2017-02-08 09:36:13] BitMEX_Wally : JuriFX: It did trigger
[2017-02-08 09:36:22] BitMEX_Wally : JuriFX: It was open in the order book when you canceled it
[2017-02-08 09:36:44] RoftheN : Wait did futures go below 1000, whyyy
[2017-02-08 09:36:46] shery : china going for round 2 I guess!
[2017-02-08 09:36:50] JuriFX : BitMEX_Wally: Ah, OK, but how come bid price on the chart was trading at 1077.16 (recent high) if price did not trade that high? Surely my lack of understanding here then
[2017-02-08 09:37:53] tech.coin : BitMEX_Wally: I have about 10 cancelled Limit orders. Can you take a look. It maybe that I once forgot to take out the close with trigger hook, but not 10 times.
[2017-02-08 09:38:01] BitMEX_Wally : JuriFX: The market printed at 1077.15 when someone hit the offers at that price, so your take profit limit order was activated and entered the order book
[2017-02-08 09:38:30] BitMEX_Wally : JuriFX: The chart plots the trade price, not the bid price
[2017-02-08 09:38:44] bingbongfly : Hey a new contract! Binary, good work bitmex :) fun stuff
[2017-02-08 09:38:44] tech.coin : My Trigger was same price as Stop Price I see. Could that be the reason?
[2017-02-08 09:38:58] JuriFX : BitMEX_Wally: ok so the mistake was a trigger price too close to execution price so that price just jumped above it and back below and never came back to fill it?
[2017-02-08 09:39:25] BitMEX_Wally : JuriFX: Effectively yes
[2017-02-08 09:40:08] JuriFX : BitMEX_Wally: OK thanks, next time I'll know better. Thanks for looking into it.
[2017-02-08 09:41:32] BitMEX_Wally : tech.coin: In the order you can hover over the Status to see the full text, it will tell you why it was canceled
[2017-02-08 09:42:05] Dynamix : Nobody believed me that it will dump hehe ?
[2017-02-08 09:43:27] tech.coin : BitMEX_Wally: Order had execInst of ParticipateDoNotInitiate.
[2017-02-08 09:43:45] BitMEX_Wally : tech.coin: That means "Post-Only"
[2017-02-08 09:43:49] tech.coin : So when is Post-only executed
[2017-02-08 09:44:37] BTC-Noob : bitcoin always screws me when i am asleep
[2017-02-08 09:45:42] tech.coin : not immediately. But how can I "calculate" the chances of a post-only order being executed?
[2017-02-08 09:45:42] -_- : we even knew about this pboc meeting last night. and we were still bullish
[2017-02-08 09:45:59] BitMEX_Wally : tech.coin: The hover-over tooltip says: "A Post-Only Order will not execute immediately against the market. Use to ensure a Maker Rebate. If it would execute against resting orders, it will cancel instead."
[2017-02-08 09:46:41] BitMEX_Wally : When your Stop Limit order triggered it was canceled because it would hit the bids
[2017-02-08 09:47:54] tech.coin : BitMEX_Wally: Okay, is there a certain "distance" from that it would 'almost always' not execute immediately, but later?
[2017-02-08 09:47:54] BitMEX_Wally : So in this case you wanted a higher limit price than the stop price for your Stop Limit sell order
[2017-02-08 09:48:30] JuriFX : BitMEX_Wally: sorry to dig in again, but looking at trading history, my order had enough chances to execute: https://i.imgur.com/e4mRqaR.png SO it was not just a spike, it came back few times and traded above my limit TP
[2017-02-08 09:48:51] BitMEX_Wally : You could just place your limit price 0.075% higher and un-tick Post-Only
[2017-02-08 09:49:05] -_- : people still dumping at a huge discount. never change
[2017-02-08 09:50:05] BitMEX_Wally : JuriFX: As I already told you, your order was triggered and entered the order book at 2017.02.08 01:11:20.112221000 UTC which is AFTER those prices you highlighted. In fact, it was those prices that triggered it in the first place///
[2017-02-08 09:50:22] tech.coin : BitMEX_Wally: Great! Thanks so much for the best support ever.
[2017-02-08 09:50:39] Ahhere : Lol at the $1000 dollar becoming psychological support less than a week later
[2017-02-08 09:50:46] Ahhere : bitcoin u cray cray
[2017-02-08 09:51:12] Dynamix : JuriFX: rekt m8 dont cri
[2017-02-08 09:51:48] JuriFX : Dynamix: was out at BE, I'm investigating an issue, who is asking you
[2017-02-08 09:51:54] Dynamix : Ahhere: might be on a downtrend again
[2017-02-08 09:52:41] Dynamix : JuriFX: i like to stick ny nose into other peoples shit ? Hahsha
[2017-02-08 09:53:30] Ahhere : Dynamix: the pope might get married
[2017-02-08 09:53:40] Dynamix : This fall will be big
[2017-02-08 09:54:03] Dynamix : Ahhere: who the fk cares about the pope ? I hope he dies satanistic shit.
[2017-02-08 09:54:14] Ahhere : Dynamix: cat lickers love him
[2017-02-08 09:54:18] Ahhere : doctors hate him
[2017-02-08 09:54:26] Ahhere : find out his 1 trick to make lots of bitcoin
[2017-02-08 09:54:43] BTCDJS : Cat lickers?
[2017-02-08 09:54:46] Noobz : BitMEX_Wally: question about the layout. I can choose between standard or arranging myself. If I arrange it myself and give the orderbook more height I still see only 10 positions (5 sell & 5 buy). Would it be possible in a next update to make that responsive so I can see, for example 10 sells and 10 buys? I now I can see them when expanding the order book I would just like to see them next to the graph on the main page
[2017-02-08 09:54:56] Dynamix : https://goo.gl/images/2CNzS6
[2017-02-08 09:55:08] Dynamix : Look at his face fking rapist
[2017-02-08 09:55:13] Dynamix : pizzagate
[2017-02-08 09:55:44] BitMEX_Sam : Noobz: Yeah, this is on my list; hopefully coming soon
[2017-02-08 09:56:01] Noobz : BitMEX_Sam: thanks, it would be highly appreciated
[2017-02-08 09:56:29] BTCDJS : BitMEX_Sam: which swear word is "cat" hiding?
[2017-02-08 09:57:01] BitMEX_Wally : BTCDJS: Hahah I think that is actually what he said
[2017-02-08 09:57:11] BitMEX_Wally : Of course, maybe he meant richardlicker
[2017-02-08 09:57:51] BTCDJS : Dicksucker
[2017-02-08 09:57:51] JuriFX : BitMEX_Wally: Yes I thing you guys are honest and this exchange has great transparency, so probably it's my lack of understanding. So not looking further into it. Would be great though if one day you could offer a TP limit order that closes other orders only on execution istead of trigger price (I know the API has this, but not the web UI). This way if price reaches the trigger price but is not executed the original stop loss (market) order remains in place. This is what happened to me, luckily I was here to get out in time at BE, since my original market SL was cancelled on trigger as it was expected...
[2017-02-08 09:59:18] BitMEX_Wally : JuriFX: One-Cancels-The-Other orders are coming to the frontend soon hopefully
[2017-02-08 10:06:05] l3f : Can I just say that COIN_BH17 is the most degenerate thing I've seen?
[2017-02-08 10:07:25] Rookie : hard to beat WINZ16
[2017-02-08 10:07:35] l3f : "Traders who believe that the rule change will be denied will sell COIN *****conracts*****. Traders who believe that the rule change will be approved will buy COIN contracts."
[2017-02-08 10:07:37] l3f : plz
[2017-02-08 10:07:51] l3f : conracts
[2017-02-08 10:07:53] l3f : is what
[2017-02-08 10:07:54] l3f : we need
[2017-02-08 10:08:10] l3f : Rookie: They actually beat WINZ16
[2017-02-08 10:08:27] tech.coin : Its binary
[2017-02-08 10:08:32] tech.coin : either you like them
[2017-02-08 10:08:35] tech.coin : or not .....
[2017-02-08 10:08:39] tech.coin : : )
[2017-02-08 10:09:43] l3f : bitmex casino and resort
[2017-02-08 10:09:49] tech.coin : : )
[2017-02-08 10:11:21] l3f : I'm pretty confused and wondering if there's an accouncement
[2017-02-08 10:11:28] l3f : announcement for coins
[2017-02-08 10:11:38] l3f : COIN_BH17
[2017-02-08 10:12:08] faggot : where did this drop come from?
[2017-02-08 10:12:40] tech.coin : Rien ne va plus!
[2017-02-08 10:12:43] l3f : faggot: courtesy of PBoC
[2017-02-08 10:12:49] l3f : you're welcome
[2017-02-08 10:12:58] faggot : FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
[2017-02-08 10:13:58] neox : lets wait for the real news ... now we have just the info that they talk with the exchanges ... lets wait what they'll say at the end of the day and we know if we are back to 700$ again or we can go on to 1100
[2017-02-08 10:14:31] l3f : neox: you figure out the news from the price real quick
[2017-02-08 10:14:40] l3f : don't actually care about news haha
[2017-02-08 10:16:54] cryptokeeper : ya that was the "news" lol
[2017-02-08 10:17:07] cryptokeeper : up we go
[2017-02-08 10:17:07] guacamole : so the bloomberg article said "wednesday," does that mean the meeting is happening now/today?
[2017-02-08 10:17:17] cryptokeeper : it already happened... 2 hrs ago
[2017-02-08 10:17:21] cryptokeeper : right at the start of the drop
[2017-02-08 10:18:01] cryptokeeper : 2AM CST 4PM china time
[2017-02-08 10:18:29] guacamole : so any idea if we'll see a post-meeting announcement?
[2017-02-08 10:18:32] guacamole : (today)
[2017-02-08 10:18:43] cryptokeeper : ummm something basic.... about AML
[2017-02-08 10:18:49] irishsia : There was no meeting. It was all just bullsh1t
[2017-02-08 10:18:56] cryptokeeper : there was a meeting
[2017-02-08 10:19:10] cryptokeeper : i told you guys this like 15hrs in advance.
[2017-02-08 10:19:19] BitFan : cryptokeeper: how did you know it?
[2017-02-08 10:19:31] rasdasd : what is the supply of COIN?
[2017-02-08 10:19:43] cryptokeeper : BitFan: I was told the big 3 were meeting at that time.
[2017-02-08 10:19:46] micmix : cryptokeeper is PBoC agent here on BitMEX
[2017-02-08 10:19:48] cryptokeeper : with PBOC
[2017-02-08 10:20:03] cryptokeeper : micmix: hehe
[2017-02-08 10:20:05] irishsia : cryptokeeper: except I have spoken to someone and they say it is untrue
[2017-02-08 10:20:10] rasdasd : BitMEX_Wally: supply of COIN?
[2017-02-08 10:20:11] BitFan : did you open any short then?
[2017-02-08 10:20:17] elmorte : I for one welcome our sliteyed overlords
[2017-02-08 10:20:19] irishsia : There was no meeting
[2017-02-08 10:20:21] tommygunn : wow, nice correction candle. Anyone else have orders hit at1k?
[2017-02-08 10:20:36] cryptokeeper : irishsia: I have multiple sources now saying they did?
[2017-02-08 10:20:40] cryptokeeper : and there was this
[2017-02-08 10:20:41] BitFan : irishsia: so bloomberg is writing bullshit?
[2017-02-08 10:20:41] BitMEX_Wally : rasdasd: It's a prediction market, it settles at 0 or 100
[2017-02-08 10:20:50] elmorte : BitMEX_Wally: what;s the settlement date?
[2017-02-08 10:20:55] irishsia : BitFan: when is Bloomberg not writing bullshit?
[2017-02-08 10:20:58] rasdasd : BitMEX_Wally: oh okay thanks
[2017-02-08 10:21:19] tommygunn : I see coin launched here, nice job boys
[2017-02-08 10:21:24] cryptokeeper : https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/829243839999254528
[2017-02-08 10:21:28] BitFan : irishsia: Ok but here they just said there was a meeting
[2017-02-08 10:21:29] BitFan : https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-08/china-central-bank-said-to-call-bitcoin-exchanges-for-more-talks?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
[2017-02-08 10:21:50] irishsia : cryptokeeper: okay, if you have sources inside one of the big 3 exchanges then fine. I also have sources and they say there was no meeting.
[2017-02-08 10:21:54] cryptokeeper : that was posted 2 hours ago... right at the time of the meeting
[2017-02-08 10:22:22] neox : maybe just fake-information to drop the price?
[2017-02-08 10:22:22] irishsia : BitFan: Yes, the cite sources 'familiar with the situation'. No source.
[2017-02-08 10:22:24] elmorte : Unless you were there, you can't say there was a meeting for sure. But the market speaks for itself
[2017-02-08 10:22:37] cryptokeeper : right.
[2017-02-08 10:22:43] cryptokeeper : and I wasnt there of course
[2017-02-08 10:22:55] cryptokeeper : but I know people over there
[2017-02-08 10:22:58] irishsia : Either way we will find out. The market got crushed.
[2017-02-08 10:23:01] elmorte : and he did call it last night, I was here
[2017-02-08 10:23:12] cryptokeeper : elmorte: i said the exact time too.
[2017-02-08 10:23:19] BitFan : irishsia: yes but this was sufficient to drop the price
[2017-02-08 10:23:35] BitFan : I was there too
[2017-02-08 10:23:38] elmorte : I missed that bit...otherwise would've been on here like a hawk
[2017-02-08 10:23:46] cryptokeeper : anyways... its done... i dont wanna talk about it anymore... lets just trade :P
[2017-02-08 10:23:47] irishsia : BitFan: It's called manipulation. Someone wanted to crash it to make bank. Job done
[2017-02-08 10:24:10] BitFan : irishsia: that also a very valuable alternative
[2017-02-08 10:24:42] irishsia : cryptokeeper: Anyway, I didn't see your heads-up but appreciate that you did that. I hope you made some gravy from it!
[2017-02-08 10:24:54] cryptokeeper : BitFan: there u go!!! so it is fully true
[2017-02-08 10:25:05] cryptokeeper : irishsia: I did! thank u..
[2017-02-08 10:25:12] cryptokeeper : many people were razzing me hard and calling me a noob and a BSer
[2017-02-08 10:25:24] cryptokeeper : they will wake up and eat humble pie for breakfast now
[2017-02-08 10:25:47] BitFan : cryptokeeper: that's called insider trading
[2017-02-08 10:26:06] BitFan : but you shared the news here
[2017-02-08 10:26:18] BitFan : again with no sources
[2017-02-08 10:26:33] cryptokeeper : ?
[2017-02-08 10:26:36] BitFan : anyway fuck pboc
[2017-02-08 10:26:41] cryptokeeper : hehe
[2017-02-08 10:26:51] -_- : Someone betting big COIN won't happen
[2017-02-08 10:27:52] BTC-Noob : time to long x100
[2017-02-08 10:28:09] faggot : BTC-Noob: Literally what I'm doing
[2017-02-08 10:28:12] rasdasd : guy who shorts COIN is smart
[2017-02-08 10:28:12] faggot : So far going strong
[2017-02-08 10:28:25] rasdasd : they are gonna drop it to 1 and pump to 100
[2017-02-08 10:28:26] cryptokeeper : ya... dont short this shit either
[2017-02-08 10:28:35] cryptokeeper : HODL
[2017-02-08 10:28:47] cryptokeeper : this was a gifting
[2017-02-08 10:33:08] aethlios : I am buying 25,000 at 5
[2017-02-08 10:33:30] aethlios : and 25,000 at 2
[2017-02-08 10:35:50] itsfall : aethlios: and then rekt
[2017-02-08 10:36:09] aethlios : itsfall: no margin calls because 100% margin.
[2017-02-08 10:36:33] messiaen8844 : nice, great stuff on COINH17
[2017-02-08 10:36:37] itsfall : aethlios: nice
[2017-02-08 10:36:46] shery : who knows what happens next
[2017-02-08 10:36:47] messiaen8844 : kudos to bitmex for this prediction market
[2017-02-08 10:37:37] messiaen8844 : degens have found a new home here
[2017-02-08 10:37:49] rasdasd : easy money if you short COIN here
[2017-02-08 10:37:56] l3f : messiaen8844: Chat iq will keep dropping
[2017-02-08 10:38:22] aethlios : we trade everything.....
[2017-02-08 10:38:32] l3f : aethlios: what's the play with COIN?
[2017-02-08 10:38:44] rasdasd : l3f: it can be traded between 1 and 100
[2017-02-08 10:38:49] l3f : so if I think 50% then do I buy or sell?
[2017-02-08 10:39:10] aethlios : l3f: it's like binary option. if coin accepted settles at 100, if not at zero.
[2017-02-08 10:39:39] aethlios : so 5 is a 5% probability, we buy and sell probability
[2017-02-08 10:39:43] messiaen8844 : rasdasd: nah, you set a very low bid, wait for liquidation and they you make a very assymetric bet on approval
[2017-02-08 10:40:05] l3f : aethlios: so if I sold and I'm on -ve and it settles at 100 do I pay up?
[2017-02-08 10:40:45] messiaen8844 : if it settles at their 1 or 0, it's a binary outcome with assymetric risk-reward...
[2017-02-08 10:40:47] micmix : no liquidations on COIN, you have to post full margin
[2017-02-08 10:41:06] messiaen8844 : ah, ok
[2017-02-08 10:41:12] j8 : yeah it's like trading with training wheels
[2017-02-08 10:41:41] j8 : fixed downside, fixed upside
[2017-02-08 10:41:48] l3f : no stop losses
[2017-02-08 10:41:49] l3f : 100% gambling
[2017-02-08 10:41:59] aethlios : l3f: don't get you, what do you mean??
[2017-02-08 10:42:13] l3f : aethlios: Suppose I sell 1 Contract at 50
[2017-02-08 10:42:34] j8 : it's just a different kind of bet. it's a discrete bet instead of betting on continuous price
[2017-02-08 10:42:53] l3f : At settlement suppose it ends up at 100. I lose the margin I posted I'm assuming
[2017-02-08 10:43:11] aethlios : l3f: they keep a 0.005 as margin so you lose only that.
[2017-02-08 10:43:14] messiaen8844 : meanwhile Augur remains vapourware lol, while others take its place
[2017-02-08 10:43:16] l3f : I keep the profits from the sale and the margin if it settles at 0
[2017-02-08 10:43:34] l3f : Ok selling would be writing an option at X% probability
[2017-02-08 10:43:58] aethlios : l3f: margin is 100%, so bitmex holds in margin your maximum loss
[2017-02-08 10:44:33] l3f : Ok I get it
[2017-02-08 10:45:06] l3f : How high I sell controls the my gain
[2017-02-08 10:45:21] j8 : buying at 50% is even odds, buying at 25% is 3:1, selling at 75% is 3:1 on NO, etc
[2017-02-08 10:47:29] l3f : And sellers have no IV crush advantage, no time decay advantage
[2017-02-08 10:47:43] l3f : nty bitmex
[2017-02-08 10:47:54] l3f : gl to everyone buying them
[2017-02-08 10:47:57] j8 : the only complicated part is that the outcome is correlated with the bitcoin price. so the payout for YES will probably be bigger in usd terms
[2017-02-08 10:49:15] j8 : so it would actually make sense to buy it a bit higher than the expected probability
[2017-02-08 10:50:26] shery : bitmex lagging! selling pressure here !
[2017-02-08 10:50:53] Tux26 : shery: wait until the short squeeze :)
[2017-02-08 10:51:53] shery : Tux26: I guess we will be moving sideways till any statement from meeting is out!
[2017-02-08 10:52:35] Tux26 : shery: possible. I also do not for certain expect the short squeeze in the next hour or so, I just think it's likely we'll see one.
[2017-02-08 10:55:28] shery : Tux26: true!
[2017-02-08 10:56:00] BitMEX_Wally : j8: The settlement fee is 0.25% but if it settles at 0
[2017-02-08 10:56:09] BitMEX_Wally : that's 0...
[2017-02-08 10:58:17] j8 : oh, thats a bit odd
[2017-02-08 10:59:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 1000 @ 1031.01
[2017-02-08 10:59:51] neox : back to the roots
[2017-02-08 11:00:16] j8 : BitMEX_Wally: fees aren't listed.. anywhere that i can see
[2017-02-08 11:00:59] j8 : i think you're mistaken, it must be zero :P
[2017-02-08 11:01:50] Ahhere : Lol we mooning again ladies? You guise r crazy
[2017-02-08 11:02:05] Ahhere : Cleared out a bunch of open interest in that dip
[2017-02-08 11:02:07] adil : should've longed x100 instead of x50...
[2017-02-08 11:02:22] Ahhere : #stronghands hodl me
[2017-02-08 11:05:55] adil : how far up do you guys it is gonna go?
[2017-02-08 11:06:08] shery : adil: kya
[2017-02-08 11:06:27] adil : kya?
[2017-02-08 11:06:46] adil : @shery
[2017-02-08 11:09:16] micmix : adil: the only fair price for bitcoin is ∞
[2017-02-08 11:10:40] adil : micmix: yeah i know but i meant like after this plunge that it just had a few hours ago, how far do you guys think ir is gonna rise again, what's the next wall?
[2017-02-08 11:11:25] faggot : 10000000000
[2017-02-08 11:11:37] Dynamix : next stop for btc is 1100 :)
[2017-02-08 11:11:39] longbydefault : show him the video faggot
[2017-02-08 11:12:21] Nerve : adil: 1080
[2017-02-08 11:12:36] Nerve : I hope tonight
[2017-02-08 11:12:37] micmix : adil: no one can say, that's why buying the dips will low leverage works best if you want to avoid REKT
[2017-02-08 11:13:28] micmix : *with low leverage
[2017-02-08 11:13:40] l3f : micmix: selling short at tops makes money twice as fast when it jumps down the elevator
[2017-02-08 11:13:52] l3f : But requires a bit more technique
[2017-02-08 11:13:56] l3f : like insider info
[2017-02-08 11:14:08] micmix : shorting tops much harder
[2017-02-08 11:16:03] micmix : not as dangerous with inverse contracts as on spot but still tricky
[2017-02-08 11:16:10] Dynamix : its goinggoing down to 1030
[2017-02-08 11:16:16] Dynamix : then up to 1050 ..
[2017-02-08 11:20:45] tommygunn : 1050 looks like first stop, stamp almost there
[2017-02-08 11:24:42] Tetsuo : http://www.coindesk.com/trader-sues-okcoin-lost-litecoin/
[2017-02-08 11:25:19] tommygunn : your link goes 404
[2017-02-08 11:27:03] -_- : COIN yes or no could happen sooner than March 11
[2017-02-08 11:27:15] germanjew : lol the woodchipper got regexed in that link :)
[2017-02-08 11:27:37] rullwull : Tetsuo: this user may have an open algo orders
[2017-02-08 11:28:01] Tetsuo : i have no opinion on this, just wanted to share the link
[2017-02-08 11:28:19] rullwull : thanks, this is just my guess
[2017-02-08 11:28:49] rullwull : in okc cny you may have unlimited number of algo orders
[2017-02-08 11:29:00] rullwull : on futures max 6
[2017-02-08 11:30:40] RoftheN : BTC
[2017-02-08 11:30:46] RoftheN : bitcoin
[2017-02-08 11:32:12] micmix : ^^^ no, 'bitcoin' is not filtered by BitMEX chat filter (yet). when COIN is approved BitMEX will replace 'bitcoin' with 'COIN!!!'
[2017-02-08 11:32:30] rullwull : micmix: why shorting spot is more dangerous?
[2017-02-08 11:32:52] micmix : loss is unlimited on spot
[2017-02-08 11:33:00] RoftheN : What is COIN?
[2017-02-08 11:33:19] Tetsuo : Its like Bitcoin without Bit
[2017-02-08 11:33:28] RoftheN : I no understand
[2017-02-08 11:33:35] RoftheN : What is bitcoin without bit?
[2017-02-08 11:33:36] tech.coin : https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/COIN_BH17
[2017-02-08 11:34:05] RoftheN : Thanks
[2017-02-08 11:34:28] MichaelKade : Hey
[2017-02-08 11:34:43] RoftheN : Winklevoss Bitcoin Shares (COIN ETF) This?
[2017-02-08 11:35:07] micmix : RoftheN: yes
[2017-02-08 11:35:13] RoftheN : Interesting
[2017-02-08 11:35:43] MichaelKade : faggot: Haha last night was good what where the chances of me working with your brother hahah
[2017-02-08 11:36:58] faggot : MichaelKade: We're literally are talking about this now dude
[2017-02-08 11:37:06] faggot : Strange coincidink
[2017-02-08 11:37:13] MichaelKade : He's a good lad bro, we couldn
[2017-02-08 11:37:24] MichaelKade : couldn't stop laughing today it was so good
[2017-02-08 11:38:02] faggot : MichaelKade: Apparently you called me a spastic
[2017-02-08 11:38:05] faggot : So cut
[2017-02-08 11:38:22] MichaelKade : faggot: well I take that back rip, it's a small world
[2017-02-08 11:38:37] MichaelKade : I'm waiting for tonights video as well
[2017-02-08 11:38:40] faggot : MichaelKade: yeah you better - tiny!
[2017-02-08 11:38:51] faggot : Probably a sad one because I ripped on the drop
[2017-02-08 11:38:56] faggot : You better have sybbed
[2017-02-08 11:39:01] faggot : subbed
[2017-02-08 11:39:13] MichaelKade : faggot: wasn't logged in to youtube haha
[2017-02-08 11:39:37] faggot : Log your ass in my boi
[2017-02-08 11:39:48] faggot : What positions you got open rn?
[2017-02-08 11:40:19] MichaelKade : Just XBTUSD, that's it your brother is teaching me the basics haha @faggot
[2017-02-08 11:41:09] faggot : MichaelKade: How much and what's your entry? Perps or futures?
[2017-02-08 11:42:08] l3f : did we manage to reduce @itsfall's balance to itszero yet?
[2017-02-08 11:42:35] itsfall : l3f: nope :P
[2017-02-08 11:42:40] laisee : 0.00000001
[2017-02-08 11:42:45] MichaelKade : faggot: I've got my position opened at 1017.00 and I've got long, honestly I'm a noob bro
[2017-02-08 11:42:52] itsfall : l3f: try harder
[2017-02-08 11:42:53] l3f : itsfall: they expect one of us in the wreckage brother
[2017-02-08 11:43:10] MichaelKade : The drop today around 6pm was disappointing
[2017-02-08 11:43:14] faggot : MichaelKade: all good, you got telegram?
[2017-02-08 11:43:15] itsfall : l3f: good luck :)
[2017-02-08 11:43:27] faggot : MichaelKade: Yeah, fkn destroyed me - goddam leverage
[2017-02-08 11:43:29] l3f : itsfall: I'm curious though, are you up or down?
[2017-02-08 11:43:43] itsfall : l3f: should i really post this in here?
[2017-02-08 11:43:48] l3f : Sure why not
[2017-02-08 11:43:50] MichaelKade : faggot: Yeah bro, I'll download it now one second
[2017-02-08 11:43:55] faggot : MichaelKade: Good
[2017-02-08 11:43:59] faggot : lmk when
[2017-02-08 11:44:07] itsfall : idk if this would be a good decision
[2017-02-08 11:44:17] l3f : itsfall: I'll assume you're up
[2017-02-08 11:44:25] l3f : because I want all of us to make money
[2017-02-08 11:44:31] MichaelKade : all g one sec
[2017-02-08 11:44:32] itsfall : l3f: thats right :)
[2017-02-08 11:44:51] itsfall : l3f: but when did i place my long? ;)
[2017-02-08 11:44:54] micmix : you can post your position, everyone here is always long anyway except few people
[2017-02-08 11:45:24] l3f : "[2017-02-07 14:33:16] l3f : We need a dump + news to get rekt really hard [2017-02-07 14:33:23] l3f : China can't dump anymore"
[2017-02-08 11:45:26] l3f : heh
[2017-02-08 11:45:37] neox : lets drop to 880 and check this statement
[2017-02-08 11:45:44] l3f : Well it looks like PBoC still has some ammo
[2017-02-08 11:46:12] MichaelKade : faggot: yeah got it now
[2017-02-08 11:46:13] faggot : l3f: No don't tell me that
[2017-02-08 11:46:23] itsfall : l3f: all panic, nothing more
[2017-02-08 11:46:44] micmix : it wasn't even PBoC ammo, traders just heard sounds of gunfire somewhere very far away ;-)
[2017-02-08 11:46:50] faggot : MichaelKade: message me on twitter
[2017-02-08 11:47:34] MichaelKade : faggot: Okay
[2017-02-08 11:47:46] Dibbidooo : 10 contracts buy at 1023,sold at 1035 with 10x leverage, but only 0.0001? why not 0.001?
[2017-02-08 11:48:05] Dibbidooo : revenue
[2017-02-08 11:48:20] neox : 10 contract are 10 contraccts ... no matter if you buy them with 10x or 100x xD
[2017-02-08 11:48:34] faggot : XD
[2017-02-08 11:48:45] Dynamix : Dibbidooo: lololol I done the same mistake
[2017-02-08 11:48:47] micmix : Dibbidooo: leverage doesn't affect profit, it's calculated using position size. use the calculator above order controls to check
[2017-02-08 11:48:50] Dibbidooo : huh, whats leverage for then :D
[2017-02-08 11:48:53] Dynamix : from 1000 to 900 with only 70 contracts
[2017-02-08 11:48:55] Dynamix : at 50x lvg :))
[2017-02-08 11:49:01] Dibbidooo : ohhh
[2017-02-08 11:49:04] Dynamix : Fucking bitmex :@@@@
[2017-02-08 11:49:27] Sultan Pepper : What the fuck did I wake up to
[2017-02-08 11:49:28] micmix : Dynamix: don't blame bitmex, that's how leverage works everywhere
[2017-02-08 11:49:37] Dynamix : not really
[2017-02-08 11:49:44] Dynamix : I thought contracts is USD
[2017-02-08 11:49:51] Dynamix : i usually traded on 1broker
[2017-02-08 11:50:09] Dibbidooo : so got same result as normal buy but with Liquidation risk@ 10% change? ?
[2017-02-08 11:50:32] micmix : exactly
[2017-02-08 11:50:47] micmix : next time buy more
[2017-02-08 11:50:50] Dibbidooo : makes sense... (not) but thx
[2017-02-08 11:50:54] Dibbidooo : :D
[2017-02-08 11:51:33] micmix : you can change leverage when you have open position, that will change liquidation price
[2017-02-08 11:52:36] Sultan Pepper : I had limit orders all the way down. Why didn't they get sold to me?
[2017-02-08 11:53:15] Dibbidooo : but then i could buy on normal exchange as bit, 1% change will be 1% Profit like everywhere too mhmmh
[2017-02-08 11:55:16] micmix : Dibbidooo: no, you can deposit 1 bitcoin here and buy 100 bitcoin worth of contracts (100x leverage). can't do that on normal exchange
[2017-02-08 11:55:56] Dibbidooo : ah, so its only for buying more, not 10x %, understood
[2017-02-08 11:56:18] micmix : yep, buying/selling more than your balance
[2017-02-08 11:56:22] neox : you own 1 BTC but with 10x leverage you can buy or sell 10 BTC
[2017-02-08 11:56:31] neox : exactly
[2017-02-08 11:56:32] Dibbidooo : to get more reven. i have to buy more as i nornally could with deposit
[2017-02-08 11:56:46] Dibbidooo : now i got it
[2017-02-08 11:57:11] micmix : yep, you got it. deposit 1 btc and start trading like you have 10
[2017-02-08 11:58:43] aethlios : last chance to buy cheap if this dump continue, but higher low expected, maybe quarterly 800 is a good buy.
[2017-02-08 11:59:58] homen3 : who is the writer of bitmex contracts?
[2017-02-08 12:00:37] internetexplorer : 1010 soon?
[2017-02-08 12:01:17] Dynamix : internetexplorer: nop :)
[2017-02-08 12:01:42] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1 @ 1035.37 :punch: :whale:
[2017-02-08 12:02:18] BitFan : aethlios: you short now?
[2017-02-08 12:02:40] shery : nice funding rate for shorters!
[2017-02-08 12:02:48] aethlios : BitFan: no short, just try a long entry, now just trading the premium discount
[2017-02-08 12:03:02] itsfall : aethlios: everybody's shorting
[2017-02-08 12:03:13] itsfall : aethlios: i think we go down to 1000 or below
[2017-02-08 12:04:07] aethlios : itsfall: lepen will win, build longs for that senario, wil kill euro.
[2017-02-08 12:04:42] itsfall : aethlios: no long orders getting rekt now, because everyone's shorting the shit out
[2017-02-08 12:04:54] itsfall : idk why they do that
[2017-02-08 12:05:03] aethlios : itsfall: 805 long the cheaper, march or spot
[2017-02-08 12:05:26] itsfall : what?
[2017-02-08 12:08:07] aethlios : itsfall: 805 a nice long entry
[2017-02-08 12:08:18] itsfall : you?
[2017-02-08 12:08:43] aethlios : itsfall: I have no position, but I like 800 to go long.
[2017-02-08 12:08:54] itsfall : oh ok
[2017-02-08 12:08:55] itsfall : ^^
[2017-02-08 12:11:36] neox : ~.~
[2017-02-08 12:12:02] neox : so boring ...
[2017-02-08 12:13:27] Dynamix : b tc to 1010
[2017-02-08 12:18:44] neox : Dynamix: do you have an open position?
[2017-02-08 12:22:45] bg5 : ugh busy morning, traded the surf, was up but now down. probably wont trade again until news tomorrow
[2017-02-08 12:25:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5000 @ 1035.57
[2017-02-08 12:30:40] itsfall : Rekt: another soul claimed
[2017-02-08 12:31:08] Dynamix : lolol
[2017-02-08 12:31:31] itsfall : yep
[2017-02-08 12:38:53] rasdasd : long that COIN thing
[2017-02-08 12:39:09] itsfall : rasdasd: so that you can short and rekt us?
[2017-02-08 12:39:42] rasdasd : itsfall: if I only had enough money lol
[2017-02-08 12:39:48] rasdasd : for that
[2017-02-08 12:40:05] itsfall : rasdasd: maybe you have and try to troll, you know this is the trollbox
[2017-02-08 12:40:35] rasdasd : you are probably short already
[2017-02-08 12:41:14] itsfall : no i dont care about the c0in etf
[2017-02-08 12:45:35] charlyko : short we go
[2017-02-08 12:46:25] itsfall : long we go
[2017-02-08 12:49:25] itsfall : charlyko: wanna get rekt?
[2017-02-08 12:50:25] faggot : Is the calculator not working for anyone else?
[2017-02-08 13:05:23] BitFan : okcoin doesn't move
[2017-02-08 13:08:20] saint paul : mant longs rekt?
[2017-02-08 13:08:24] saint paul : many
[2017-02-08 13:08:47] neox : time to move the woodchipper into the other direction du crush some shorts? :D
[2017-02-08 13:13:26] neox : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b30z0-a1FtQ
[2017-02-08 13:15:02] aethlios : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfBuvRk1thQ bulls now.
[2017-02-08 13:15:33] bingbongfly : short squeeze back to 1100 imo
[2017-02-08 13:15:39] BitFan : check this out http://www.coindesk.com/chinas-central-bank-meets-bitcoin-exchanges/ …
[2017-02-08 13:15:57] itsfall : BitFan: possible fud?
[2017-02-08 13:15:58] bingbongfly : nice, good stuff
[2017-02-08 13:16:04] bingbongfly : It's positive news
[2017-02-08 13:16:28] BitFan : well woodchipper and btcc didn't even participate
[2017-02-08 13:17:34] BitFan : itsfall: we ll see
[2017-02-08 13:17:48] itsfall : bingbongfly: the news are some hours old.. it caused the massive drop
[2017-02-08 13:17:55] itsfall : BitFan: yep
[2017-02-08 13:18:35] elmorte : >At press time, the price appeared to dip slightly on the news,
[2017-02-08 13:18:44] elmorte : lol
[2017-02-08 13:19:12] itsfall : elmorte: 80$, just a little bit
[2017-02-08 13:19:13] itsfall : you know
[2017-02-08 13:19:30] itsfall : ^^
[2017-02-08 13:19:53] elmorte : Chump change, really...
[2017-02-08 13:20:14] elmorte : You can tell it's a crypto publication
[2017-02-08 13:22:51] Ahhere : bingbongfly: market frozen.. what are these chinamen gonna say? seems gambly to bet big now. FUDalicious
[2017-02-08 13:23:24] rapidtrades : has anyone traded at kraken on margin?
[2017-02-08 13:24:44] saint paul : 920 in less than a week
[2017-02-08 13:24:47] saint paul : I use margin on kraken
[2017-02-08 13:24:49] saint paul : not bad
[2017-02-08 13:24:54] saint paul : just enigne is too slow
[2017-02-08 13:24:59] saint paul : sometimes
[2017-02-08 13:25:18] l3f : rapidtrades: rapidshorts
[2017-02-08 13:25:19] l3f : dump target?