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[2015-11-09 11:04:41] justinlooking : dorothy490: sure, but i believe it's a system stop
[2015-11-09 11:07:53] dorothy490 : you talking about 2500 contracts?
[2015-11-09 11:13:50] kogroken : wow, 45% DPE on H16 :/
[2015-11-09 11:14:17] BitMEX_Wally : justinlooking: Buy and sell stops are not shown in the book,
[2015-11-09 11:15:16] BitMEX_Wally : The system took over a large short position in XBTH16 that is at a loss. There is a bid for 27600 @ 467.69
[2015-11-09 11:16:06] BitMEX_Wally : If you fill this order the DPE will go to 0% :)
[2015-11-09 11:16:48] kogroken : Well, I rather take half the profits than close at a loss :P
[2015-11-09 11:17:45] BitMEX_Wally : XBT24H counts for 90% of our liquidity and XBT7D for 9% of our liquidity. No-one seems to want to trade XBTZ15 or XBTH16
[2015-11-09 11:18:36] kogroken : I guess they are for more patient traders.
[2015-11-09 11:18:57] kendang : BitMEX_Wally: can you tell us how many registered traders bitmex has?
[2015-11-09 11:19:13] BitMEX_Wally : Thousands
[2015-11-09 11:19:47] kogroken : Chinese quarterly futures used to be very thin too a year ago, now they are pretty liquid. Give it time :)
[2015-11-09 11:20:00] kendang : kogroken: on okcoin?
[2015-11-09 11:20:10] kogroken : yeah
[2015-11-09 11:20:43] TschavaTschigger : BitMEX_Wally: Do you plan to reduce trading costs for members with very high turnover? Like the usual bitcon markets do?
[2015-11-09 11:21:11] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : TschavaTschigger: It's already 0% fee for people adding liquidity to the book
[2015-11-09 11:21:46] podizzler3k : good morning usa
[2015-11-09 11:21:53] podizzler3k : moon liftoff?
[2015-11-09 11:22:10] habibi : hey guys
[2015-11-09 11:22:30] kogroken : It's banking day, so some dollars should hit the exchanges today.
[2015-11-09 11:22:38] Scottv53 : morning Folks!
[2015-11-09 11:22:49] podizzler3k : lets hope it happens in the next 35 minutes so 24hr settles nice and high
[2015-11-09 11:22:59] podizzler3k : next 20 minutes considering the time weight thing
[2015-11-09 11:23:03] kogroken : On the other hand, the auction coins should be sent out to winners today.
[2015-11-09 11:23:20] podizzler3k : kogroken those coins are always sat on historically
[2015-11-09 11:23:52] podizzler3k : would be quite random for someone to make an investment in bulk coins only to dump them for menial profit
[2015-11-09 11:24:22] kogroken : podizzler3k: Well, if a syndicate won the auction with a low bid, then the members would likely sell.
[2015-11-09 11:24:23] kendang : which auction coins are you talking about? silk road?
[2015-11-09 11:24:28] kogroken : At least some of them.
[2015-11-09 11:24:34] podizzler3k : yes the final silk road coins
[2015-11-09 11:24:37] kogroken : kendang: Yeah
[2015-11-09 11:24:55] habibi : https://blockchain.info/pl/address/1GVJSUUUfjm9BRQsM25NFtBHJoNfX5icGw still save and calm
[2015-11-09 11:25:05] kogroken : But if it's someone like Dapper, then it's likely they'll hold.
[2015-11-09 11:25:15] TschavaTschigger : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: I know, but that wasn't my question. I am asking if people with high turnover get better rates than people with low turnover.
[2015-11-09 11:25:16] habibi : wake up bitmex
[2015-11-09 11:25:17] podizzler3k : dapper?
[2015-11-09 11:25:27] podizzler3k : if youre talking about tim draper he said he didnt bid
[2015-11-09 11:25:28] habibi : tim dapper
[2015-11-09 11:25:34] kogroken : podizzler3k: The guy who won the first auction(s)
[2015-11-09 11:25:37] habibi : bought a bunch of coins in previous auctions
[2015-11-09 11:25:41] podizzler3k : yeah he didnt bid
[2015-11-09 11:25:46] kogroken : large investor guy.
[2015-11-09 11:25:53] podizzler3k : genesis trading group admitted they bid
[2015-11-09 11:25:57] podizzler3k : whoever they are
[2015-11-09 11:26:04] podizzler3k : and some one else came out i forget one sec
[2015-11-09 11:26:14] kogroken : true, but I meant the general type (large strong-handed investor)
[2015-11-09 11:26:55] podizzler3k : Genesis Trading Launches as First Broker-Dealer Specializing in Digital Currency Trading
[2015-11-09 11:27:01] podizzler3k : sounds like someone who would dump heh
[2015-11-09 11:27:49] podizzler3k : wow nice buys
[2015-11-09 11:28:00] podizzler3k : we're gonna end up exactly where we were 24hr ago
[2015-11-09 11:29:19] jung1 : I dont know. I have some strange feeling that dump is comming before '16 pump
[2015-11-09 11:29:57] kogroken : Nice spike up.
[2015-11-09 11:30:13] habibi : i think we will go for some 390 testing again in next hours
[2015-11-09 11:30:28] podizzler3k : some random ass company that has no public face won the last auction
[2015-11-09 11:30:30] podizzler3k : https://cumberlandmining.com/
[2015-11-09 11:30:34] podizzler3k : secretive
[2015-11-09 11:30:40] podizzler3k : probably trying to avoid taxes
[2015-11-09 11:30:47] gaoMex : podizzler3k: source?
[2015-11-09 11:31:03] podizzler3k : http://www.coindesk.com/secretive-mining-firm-revealed-as-possible-us-marshals-auction-winner/
[2015-11-09 11:31:06] podizzler3k : that was back in march
[2015-11-09 11:31:10] podizzler3k : not the one from friday
[2015-11-09 11:31:14] podizzler3k : so they will probably bid again
[2015-11-09 11:31:45] habibi : lel...
[2015-11-09 11:31:52] habibi : who cares about march auction
[2015-11-09 11:33:06] podizzler3k : i dont
[2015-11-09 11:33:12] podizzler3k : a lot of people care about this one for some reason
[2015-11-09 11:33:23] podizzler3k : when theyve already have 5 or so that have not affected the price at all
[2015-11-09 11:33:33] podizzler3k : next leg up!
[2015-11-09 11:33:55] gaoMex : This price rise is some crazy shit
[2015-11-09 11:34:06] gaoMex : no sign at all
[2015-11-09 11:34:13] habibi : markets seems to be bullish again
[2015-11-09 11:34:27] habibi : IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb: hello mate, how was murch long at night?
[2015-11-09 11:35:22] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: Was great until I screwed myself by shorting
[2015-11-09 11:35:28] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : Still in profit but not by much
[2015-11-09 11:36:18] habibi : ah yea i am happy that night was pretty calm after it get out from <2440 levels
[2015-11-09 11:36:28] mikeh : yea i had a freaking short from 360 earlier, worst timing for a pump, right before settlement
[2015-11-09 11:36:36] habibi : 2440 lvls
[2015-11-09 11:37:17] habibi : 15 minutes vol hits really highs
[2015-11-09 11:37:35] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: Yep it was crazy
[2015-11-09 11:37:44] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I tried to get in front of the train. Such a bad idea :p
[2015-11-09 11:38:13] habibi : i mean look now at hobi 30 min vol 12.00
[2015-11-09 11:38:27] billyboy402 : why cant you place a short on the dailt at 390 ?
[2015-11-09 11:38:45] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : habibi: I know it's insane
[2015-11-09 11:38:56] habibi : u can if u will use cross margin
[2015-11-09 11:39:04] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : You can, but you won't see it in the 5 level orderbook right now
[2015-11-09 11:39:07] habibi : otherwise in isolated margin position would be instantly closed
[2015-11-09 11:39:28] habibi : ah no, sorry
[2015-11-09 11:39:34] habibi : long would be closed
[2015-11-09 11:39:37] habibi : nvm
[2015-11-09 11:46:19] Scottv53 : shit i forgot about settlement Just went short huge!
[2015-11-09 11:48:49] habibi : 4246?
[2015-11-09 11:50:02] kendang : Scottv53: i feel your pain
[2015-11-09 11:56:26] billyboy402 : who the noob that just brought daily up to .383.80 thanks
[2015-11-09 12:01:47] loke : Does anyone know whats causing these wild fluctuations in XBTH16 Mark Price?
[2015-11-09 12:03:04] kogroken : Someone just market sold about 3000 contracts on H16. Seems that bought down the mark price as well.
[2015-11-09 12:04:03] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: fair price is fixed with settlement price?
[2015-11-09 12:04:49] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: The fair price will decay to the settlement price
[2015-11-09 12:05:13] habibi : yea but why now its not :p?
[2015-11-09 12:05:13] BitMEX_Wally : i.e. fairPrice = indicativeSettlePrice * fairBasisRate * (daysToExpiry / 365)
[2015-11-09 12:05:30] habibi : ah timeframe
[2015-11-09 12:05:32] habibi : 30 minutes?
[2015-11-09 12:05:41] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: Which instrument are you looking at?
[2015-11-09 12:05:46] habibi : 24h
[2015-11-09 12:06:33] BitMEX_Wally : After re-listing the fairBasisRate is reset to 0
[2015-11-09 12:06:42] BitMEX_Wally : IT will be adjusted soon to match where the contract is trading
[2015-11-09 12:07:22] habibi : yea now it jumped
[2015-11-09 12:07:42] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah, we have some announcements coming that will help the mark price be more transparent
[2015-11-09 12:08:21] loke : BitMEX_Wally: Does the trading price on XBTH16 influence the Fair Price?
[2015-11-09 12:08:37] BitMEX_Wally : loke: Yes
[2015-11-09 12:08:58] loke : BitMEX_Wally: Many thanks. That explains everything.
[2015-11-09 12:49:09] mitzip : the idea that once I click isolate margin on a position days ago... all my other future orders on that contract should be isolate margin is not intuitive... :(
[2015-11-09 12:51:43] mitzip : wasn't expecting new orders to be isolate margin... I'd used isolate margin on a profitable position so I could get some sleep... now due to the unexpected isolate margin setting (none of my other positions ever were isolate margin)
[2015-11-09 12:52:24] mitzip : I got my first liquidation notice
[2015-11-09 12:53:21] mitzip : luckily it was a small position... but it was an $80 lesson learned that doesn't put a smile on my face :( <-- see
[2015-11-09 12:53:54] BitMEX_Wally : mitzip: Sorry to hear that. We decided to remember the setting so users would not be surprised by it changing
[2015-11-09 12:54:22] mitzip : I'd never used it before, so it was a suprise to me that it remembered
[2015-11-09 12:55:16] BitMEX_Wally : In the Order Controls there is an 'Order Options' drop down where you can toggle 'Isolate' or 'Cross' before opening the position
[2015-11-09 12:55:31] dorothy490 : BitMEX_Wally: say I have open position on cross margin mode at x100. Price goes 2% in oposite direction of my original order. Now I cant change to isolated margin essentially, even If I have huge cross. That should be addressed/fixed
[2015-11-09 12:56:03] dorothy490 : need a way to isolate margin on opened position even if its on cross mode yet
[2015-11-09 12:56:12] BitMEX_Wally : dorothy490: What happens when you try and enable Isolate Margin in that situation?
[2015-11-09 12:56:24] dorothy490 : BitMEX_Wally: dont want to test but I suppose liquidation
[2015-11-09 12:56:30] dorothy490 : or it wouldn't let me to isolate
[2015-11-09 12:56:35] BitMEX_Wally : It won't liquidate you :)
[2015-11-09 12:56:55] BitMEX_Wally : It will put in the original 0.5% plus enough to cover the losses
[2015-11-09 12:56:59] BitMEX_Wally : Click isolate and see :)
[2015-11-09 12:57:05] podizzler3k_ : how can i add margin to a position on mobile
[2015-11-09 12:57:09] dorothy490 : already klikked
[2015-11-09 12:57:23] dorothy490 : I had less then 1% diff though
[2015-11-09 12:57:40] dorothy490 : ok I see your point
[2015-11-09 12:58:09] BitMEX_Wally : podizzler3k_: I recommend you enable cross margin if you cannot use the buttons on mobile. We'll look into it
[2015-11-09 12:59:28] podizzler3k_ : ok thanks or at least give me the option to use the normal desktop site. if i click request desktop site it stays the same
[2015-11-09 12:59:51] mitzip : BitMEX_Wally: well I guess the best I can say about this situation is thank you for the quick response
[2015-11-09 13:22:06] amirmass : where u guys shorting?
[2015-11-09 13:22:20] redlose : i am
[2015-11-09 13:23:11] kendang : me too
[2015-11-09 13:24:39] amirmass : 389?
[2015-11-09 13:24:42] amirmass : or higher
[2015-11-09 13:24:59] kendang : i shorted @391
[2015-11-09 13:25:11] amirmass : x100 ?
[2015-11-09 13:28:45] TschavaTschigger : anybody wanna grab my 18k sell at 7D? :D
[2015-11-09 13:29:59] kendang : no thanks :-)
[2015-11-09 13:49:57] gustavo7 : going down already?
[2015-11-09 14:27:23] gustavo7 : judas swing!
[2015-11-09 14:41:16] podizzler3k_ : heres an article where the mmm scammer takes credit for btc's rise. i need to post the google link otherwise it will make you subscribe before reading
[2015-11-09 14:41:19] podizzler3k_ : https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=newssearch&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CBsQqQIoADAAahUKEwik1f7kxYPJAhWBlB4KHVHFAFs&url=http%3A%2F%2Fftalphaville.ft.com%2F2015%2F11%2F09%2F2144388%2Fim-no-crook-declares-mmm-scamster-while-claiming-credit-for-the-bitcoin-price-spike%2F&usg=AFQjCNGcVtZ_sQz-NL1s0fCzoxWoZNbpMA&sig2=6OUMGn5GnQuCZaS8k4ZFKw
[2015-11-09 14:46:15] podizzler3k_ : really wish i could add some margin to my position but bitmex is blocked at work and its not available on mobile
[2015-11-09 14:47:02] podizzler3k_ : feeling like i just went bungee jumping without a bungee cord
[2015-11-09 14:47:20] podizzler3k_ : i see the evil isolate check button is available
[2015-11-09 14:53:57] STRML : podizzler3k_: You can't add margin if the position isn't isolated
[2015-11-09 14:54:15] podizzler3k_ : oh ?
[2015-11-09 14:54:24] STRML : Yeah, it's already using all your margin if not isolated
[2015-11-09 14:54:26] STRML : There's nothing more to add
[2015-11-09 14:54:34] podizzler3k_ : yeah i guess that makes sense
[2015-11-09 14:54:37] podizzler3k_ : i swear ive done it before
[2015-11-09 14:54:42] STRML : You haven't :)
[2015-11-09 14:54:59] podizzler3k_ : ill have to wait until after work to know for sure
[2015-11-09 14:55:05] STRML : It wouldn't make any sense to add more margin on a cross-margin position.
[2015-11-09 14:56:14] podizzler3k_ : yeah i suppose not
[2015-11-09 14:56:31] podizzler3k_ : ill just have to shrink my position
[2015-11-09 14:56:35] podizzler3k_ : which is upsetting
[2015-11-09 14:56:44] sleger : or deposit more
[2015-11-09 14:57:02] podizzler3k_ : true true
[2015-11-09 14:57:43] podizzler3k_ : or just ride it out and hope it doesnt dump to 383
[2015-11-09 14:58:03] podizzler3k_ : thats not really possible tho. seems rock solid at 385
[2015-11-09 15:00:29] babybaby : go long
[2015-11-09 15:05:25] habibi : babybaby: http://image.blingee.com/images18/content/output/000/000/000/790/770024890_1111300.gif?4
[2015-11-09 15:05:47] babybaby : never :D
[2015-11-09 15:12:03] babybaby : habibi: http://i.imgur.com/pYdrcDb.png
[2015-11-09 15:31:39] hashman : open positions tab not updating?
[2015-11-09 15:32:21] hashman : "no data" on open positions -
[2015-11-09 15:32:37] podizzler3k_ : well this is awkward
[2015-11-09 15:37:41] hashman : anyone else got this issue? "No Data." under the open positions tab?
[2015-11-09 15:40:04] BitMEX_Sam : Looking into it
[2015-11-09 15:40:15] hashman : thxs sam
[2015-11-09 15:45:39] BitMEX_Sam : hashman: Please refresh, taken care of
[2015-11-09 16:08:53] amirmass : DUUMMPPP IT
[2015-11-09 16:09:43] jung1 : XBT (276.38%)
[2015-11-09 16:09:54] jung1 : ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[2015-11-09 16:11:24] stf28 : jung1: well done !!
[2015-11-09 16:11:35] BitMEX_Sam : Nice one
[2015-11-09 16:12:55] amirmass : dont panic buy yet, more down incoming
[2015-11-09 16:13:03] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: I thought I would have my withheld profit back this morning after the settlement, can you shed some light on this?
[2015-11-09 16:13:16] BitMEX_Sam : floopfloop: Is some of that withheld profit in XBT7D?
[2015-11-09 16:13:22] amirmass : 376 incoming
[2015-11-09 16:14:03] jung1 : I think we con go even to $300 before '16 pump
[2015-11-09 16:14:18] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: I dont know, but possibly. I closed out all of my positions
[2015-11-09 16:14:45] BitMEX_Sam : floopfloop: Right. So XBT24H becomes available right after the daily settlement, but the rest of the contracts only unlock at Friday at 12 UTC
[2015-11-09 16:14:56] floopfloop : oh crap
[2015-11-09 16:15:08] amirmass : 270$ i beleive
[2015-11-09 16:15:51] BitMEX_Sam : floopfloop: https://www.bitmex.com/app/dynamicProfitEqualisation#contract-settlement-rebalance
[2015-11-09 16:16:09] BitMEX_Sam : Necessary evil due to high leverage and the potential for systemic loss
[2015-11-09 16:16:27] habibi : there were a good blockchain expl that connects addresses with exchanges and so, do u remember guys that blockexplorer?
[2015-11-09 16:16:44] amirmass : ddddddddummmmmmppp
[2015-11-09 16:16:56] amirmass : chinaaaa
[2015-11-09 16:18:00] floopfloop : BitMEX_Sam: if i had contract in decemeber and march would i need to wait until then as well?
[2015-11-09 16:18:12] BitMEX_Sam : floopfloop: No, please read the doc - every Friday, all contracts rebalance and profit unlocks
[2015-11-09 16:18:29] floopfloop : oh ok. Yeah I got that, but wasnt sure if it meant those as well
[2015-11-09 16:19:04] habibi : BitMEX_Sam: btw what was the higher system loss u could achieve on testnet?
[2015-11-09 16:19:47] BitMEX_Sam : habibi: Technically any amount below 100% is possible but extremely unlikely
[2015-11-09 16:20:00] BitMEX_Sam : On Testnet there is pretty significant liquidity from some built-in bots so it's pretty tough to crank it high
[2015-11-09 16:20:09] habibi : 100% ? i thought 50% is maximum as players plays against players
[2015-11-09 16:20:29] BitMEX_Wally : Yes but one player will have made all the money and the other lost it all
[2015-11-09 16:20:41] redlose : alright guys now you can dump im in with 40k
[2015-11-09 16:20:42] BitMEX_Wally : So the adjustment is 99.999% of the winner's profits
[2015-11-09 16:20:56] BitMEX_Sam : Imagine 100x, two counterparties, price goes from 100 to 110, each user has only 1 XBT
[2015-11-09 16:21:00] habibi : ah so then the winner would get nothing?
[2015-11-09 16:21:10] BitMEX_Sam : One person would have made 10 XBT, other would have lost 1, so adjustment would be 90%
[2015-11-09 16:21:12] BitMEX_Wally : The winner gets whatever the losers had to lose
[2015-11-09 16:21:23] BitMEX_Wally : So it's fair in that sense
[2015-11-09 16:23:21] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: clear explanation, thx
[2015-11-09 16:24:07] floopfloop : I don't care if they have the proper experience, or any for that matter. If I ever have to hire someone and the applicant is named Wally, they are hired
[2015-11-09 16:25:46] BitMEX_Wally : floopfloop: Did you know that 'wally' is British slang for a silly or inept person?
[2015-11-09 16:26:05] floopfloop : No I did not. +1 point
[2015-11-09 16:26:29] MarketQ : The stop limit just does not seem to work
[2015-11-09 16:26:53] MarketQ : it doesnt ever execute a stop even if the price is well past the stop price
[2015-11-09 16:27:24] habibi : BitMEX_Wally: are u gonna add featuers like stop loss/take profit?
[2015-11-09 16:27:48] BitMEX_Wally : MarketQ: How does it not work?
[2015-11-09 16:28:26] BitMEX_Wally : habibi: If you are long you can add a take profit order by submitting a sell limit order
[2015-11-09 16:28:58] habibi : well... there was no question
[2015-11-09 16:29:05] MarketQ : Well yesterday I placed a stop and the price passed my stop limit and my position didnt get closed
[2015-11-09 16:29:13] BitMEX_Wally : MarketQ: Let me check
[2015-11-09 16:29:52] BitMEX_Wally : MarketQ: It looks like it triggered and was rejected because of lack of available margin
[2015-11-09 16:30:03] MarketQ : Ok makes sense thanks
[2015-11-09 16:30:28] BitMEX_Wally : Have a look in 'Order History'
[2015-11-09 16:41:45] justinlooking : hi wally, thanks for the explanation. earlier regarding the DPE in XBTH16. I'm seeing 40% of my balance is withheld, even though I am completely flat. I thought the DPE would only apply to those people with positions at settlement, but it seems that's not the case?
[2015-11-09 16:42:06] habibi : this bot at hobi is frustrating
[2015-11-09 16:45:25] SnackyCoins : justin you must wait until settlement for the withheld profits to become available
[2015-11-09 16:45:39] BitMEX_Wally : justinlooking: DPE applies to any profits made (realised or unrealised)
[2015-11-09 16:47:47] dorothy490 : dont see a button to add margin when I have pending orders
[2015-11-09 16:47:58] dorothy490 : browsing from PC
[2015-11-09 16:48:41] BitMEX_Wally : dorothy490: This is a limitation of our system for now. In the mean time open a position with 1 contract then you can add margin
[2015-11-09 16:48:54] dorothy490 : why
[2015-11-09 16:49:25] BitMEX_Wally : You have pending orders and you want there to be more margin when they are filled?
[2015-11-09 16:49:34] dorothy490 : yes
[2015-11-09 16:50:18] Murch : dorothy490: so open 1 contract add margin it's not difficult
[2015-11-09 16:50:32] dorothy490 : it was possible without opening one contract before
[2015-11-09 16:50:37] SnackyCoins : adding additional margin as a feature was just added like what 2 weeks ago? 8)
[2015-11-09 16:51:00] Murch : dorothy490: Yeah I noticed that before too actually, weird.
[2015-11-09 16:51:54] dorothy490 : I'm also worried what if i reverse my position due of this change additional margin will dissapear
[2015-11-09 16:52:17] BitMEX_Wally : dorothy490: Open a position in the same direction then
[2015-11-09 16:52:31] dorothy490 : wat
[2015-11-09 16:52:57] dorothy490 : say I have 1 short contract, if price reach 360 I have pending buy orders
[2015-11-09 16:53:11] dorothy490 : for 200
[2015-11-09 16:53:20] dorothy490 : what will happen with additional margin in that case
[2015-11-09 16:54:05] habibi : that hobi bot... if its not on purpose someone will get wreck ;p
[2015-11-09 16:54:11] BitMEX_Wally : There is only 1 situation where additional margin will be taken out, and that is when you have no active orders (nothing in the book) AND no position (qty is 0)
[2015-11-09 16:54:46] BitMEX_Wally : So if you go from -1 to 199 the additional margin will stay there
[2015-11-09 16:54:56] dorothy490 : ok, any reasons why you removed ability to add margin to the pending orders without position?
[2015-11-09 16:55:01] Murch : habibi: what's it doing?
[2015-11-09 16:55:11] BitMEX_Wally : I'm not sure it was ever there
[2015-11-09 16:55:22] cekseh : I think I saw it there a few days ago as well
[2015-11-09 16:55:29] dorothy490 : it was there
[2015-11-09 16:55:34] cekseh : I remember asking myself that question on sat
[2015-11-09 16:55:34] habibi : Murch: https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/huobi/btccny was keep buying all to 2489 for like 10-15 minutes
[2015-11-09 16:55:59] dorothy490 : I often used it to XBTD7D and other instruments
[2015-11-09 16:55:59] Murch : habibi: oh wow okay lol
[2015-11-09 16:56:11] BitMEX_Wally : Ok, we'll add it
[2015-11-09 16:56:22] dorothy490 : thanks
[2015-11-09 16:56:55] cekseh : +1 =)
[2015-11-09 16:58:28] SnackyCoins : i never saw it, but i use cross :)
[2015-11-09 17:04:09] Murch : cross ftw
[2015-11-09 17:30:23] TschavaTschigger : dumping time
[2015-11-09 17:32:03] podizzler3k_ : again?
[2015-11-09 17:32:07] podizzler3k_ : its always dumping time
[2015-11-09 17:46:20] TschavaTschigger : time to jump on the buytrain
[2015-11-09 17:49:21] jung1 : will drop more
[2015-11-09 17:51:25] TschavaTschigger : nope
[2015-11-09 17:51:27] gielbier : BitMEX_Wally: yeah i agree with dorothy490 i miss that
[2015-11-09 17:59:50] floopfloop : moon time
[2015-11-09 18:04:05] TschavaTschigger : +1
[2015-11-09 18:13:19] floopfloop : i got out, ez .12 btc
[2015-11-09 18:16:24] jung1 : finex bitcoin price is bigger thatn xbt24
[2015-11-09 18:21:10] sleger : huobi price is bigger than finex
[2015-11-09 18:22:50] jung1 : would be great if there will be dump
[2015-11-09 18:24:40] floopfloop : ok coin has btc at 299.99 after rebate
[2015-11-09 18:24:53] floopfloop : what happened to the woodchipper?
[2015-11-09 18:27:10] jung1 : hey sam. put it on your list https://gatecoin.com/blog/2015/11/gatecoin-launches-dynamic-stop-orders/
[2015-11-09 18:27:59] jung1 : BitMEX_Wally:
[2015-11-09 18:31:42] BitMEX_Sam : jung1: Yeah, those are nice. More order types to come
[2015-11-09 18:33:09] babybaby : BTC going up
[2015-11-09 18:35:37] aspa : BitMEX_Sam: if you're going to allow bots that paint the orderbooks, you might consider alternative forms to display the orderbooks. Didn't like what I just saw..
[2015-11-09 18:35:59] zanza : ?
[2015-11-09 18:36:01] BitMEX_Sam : aspa: Agreed, they've been starting to fill it full of tiny sizes
[2015-11-09 18:36:13] aspa : Indeed..
[2015-11-09 18:36:37] BitMEX_Sam : We always knew it would happen eventually, just have had other development priorities so we figured we'd wait until this started happening more
[2015-11-09 18:37:17] aspa : I understand.. Good to know you're on top of that :) And thanks for the excellent platform!
[2015-11-09 18:37:40] BitMEX_Sam : aspa: Thanks!
[2015-11-09 18:37:43] zanza : what is considered tiny size?
[2015-11-09 18:38:22] jung1 : or leave it but add "group"option like on huobi
[2015-11-09 18:38:48] aspa : Grouping sounds fine, yes
[2015-11-09 18:38:59] zanza : under 100? under 1000? what do you consider small
[2015-11-09 18:39:24] jung1 : not only bots play tiny size
[2015-11-09 18:39:32] SnackyCoins : 1-5 contracts small
[2015-11-09 18:39:35] jung1 : thats how free market works
[2015-11-09 18:40:39] jung1 : best option will be to group orderbook in varions way like to 0.25, to 0.5, 0.75, 1 etc
[2015-11-09 18:40:47] jung1 : various
[2015-11-09 18:41:04] jung1 : everyone will be ahppy
[2015-11-09 18:41:05] zanza : makes sense, seems complicated to program though!
[2015-11-09 18:41:35] jung1 : zanza: but you would know what for your fees go ;)
[2015-11-09 18:41:49] aspa : zanza: well in the current layout, <100 is annoying to me.. Though indeed one cannot mind such small orders if it's still possible to spot the mass..
[2015-11-09 18:41:54] zanza : this place has like the lowest fees i seen
[2015-11-09 18:41:59] zanza : not complaining about that!
[2015-11-09 18:41:59] SnackyCoins : i'm sure the longest part of development for something like that is figuring out where you're going to put the buttons 8)
[2015-11-09 18:42:34] jung1 : something like on https://www.huobi.com/
[2015-11-09 18:42:43] zanza : :o
[2015-11-09 18:42:50] zanza : he spoke the unspeakable
[2015-11-09 18:42:52] jung1 : you can chose depth
[2015-11-09 18:42:52] aspa : less than 100 is annoying to me, though one cannot mind smaller orders as long as it's still possibel to spot the mass
[2015-11-09 18:43:09] zanza : or BitMEX can give out the address details of the MM spamming these orders
[2015-11-09 18:43:12] aspa : BitMEX_Sam: Trollbox doesn't allow 'smaller than sign'?
[2015-11-09 18:43:14] zanza : and we can find him
[2015-11-09 18:44:02] BitMEX_Sam : aspa: Yeah, that's a bit overzealous part of the HTML sanitization
[2015-11-09 18:44:42] aspa : I feel absolutely safe now ;)
[2015-11-09 18:44:47] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, grouping is generally the answer, there are some little issues about what happens underneath with the data but it's definitely doable
[2015-11-09 18:45:38] SnackyCoins : seems like doing it on the front end would be easiest
[2015-11-09 18:46:02] singularity321 : the longest part of development is finding names for things
[2015-11-09 18:46:06] jung1 : so add grouping and dynamic stop losses and I will add bitmex to my cv as full time trader/trollbox user
[2015-11-09 18:46:30] singularity321 : you using nodejs?
[2015-11-09 18:46:34] SnackyCoins : don't forget the reflink QR on there jung
[2015-11-09 18:46:43] BitMEX_Sam : aspa: The trick is to put a space between, < 100 is fine
[2015-11-09 18:46:55] BitMEX_Sam : singularity321: For the webservers, yes, for the trading engine, kdb+
[2015-11-09 18:47:20] singularity321 : ooo not heard of that
[2015-11-09 18:47:21] jung1 : SnackyCoins: for sure
[2015-11-09 18:48:10] SnackyCoins : hey sam do you like react better than angular?
[2015-11-09 18:48:22] BitMEX_Sam : SnackyCoins: Yes, or else this would be an Angular site
[2015-11-09 18:48:29] SnackyCoins : touche 8)
[2015-11-09 18:48:39] BitMEX_Sam : Big React fan, I maintain a lot of React projects at https://github.com/strml
[2015-11-09 18:50:02] SnackyCoins : was thinking about what my next framework should be, react seeming like a good choice
[2015-11-09 18:50:58] BitMEX_Sam : It's the future (and present) of webdev
[2015-11-09 18:52:45] singularity321 : I work as a php dev, it's a dirty job but it pays the bills
[2015-11-09 18:53:35] aspa : BitMEX_Sam: thanks! Let's see if it works: Stamp < OKCoin < Huobi
[2015-11-09 18:53:40] aspa : Excellent!
[2015-11-09 18:53:46] SnackyCoins : how do all these react-ids get in the html? is it inserted or is the whole document generated?
[2015-11-09 18:53:56] aspa : I've been wanting to try that wordfilter for days now
[2015-11-09 18:54:13] BitMEX_Sam : SnackyCoins: That's an implementation detail of React itself, it uses the IDs to keep track of where its internal elements map to the DOM
[2015-11-09 18:54:51] SnackyCoins : ah so they get inserted as the page loads
[2015-11-09 18:55:32] SnackyCoins : I don't know angular either ;)
[2015-11-09 18:56:01] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah anything generated by React will have those IDs, unless you put it in a special static-page mode
[2015-11-09 18:57:05] aspa : strml.net is awesome
[2015-11-09 18:57:49] singularity321 : i've been on there before
[2015-11-09 18:57:56] singularity321 : swear I have
[2015-11-09 18:58:23] singularity321 : guessing you posted it to r/theymos a while back
[2015-11-09 18:58:23] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah, it went viral a few months back
[2015-11-09 18:59:28] SnackyCoins : Ha this is great :)
[2015-11-09 19:08:09] habibi : ddos pump?
[2015-11-09 19:09:32] babybaby : told ya pump is coming
[2015-11-09 19:09:39] babybaby : u shuld tip me habibi
[2015-11-09 19:10:14] habibi : when u told to go long @ 390 and it went to 375? :D sure!
[2015-11-09 19:10:26] babybaby : no it didnt
[2015-11-09 19:10:31] babybaby : i shown u pic of me long
[2015-11-09 19:10:41] babybaby : and i just did money on long too - Sam can admit
[2015-11-09 19:11:16] habibi : lel, i dont care mate :D i know u said long at 388-390 here, few minutes after dump from 2430 :p
[2015-11-09 19:17:47] kendang : kindergarden ..
[2015-11-09 19:19:29] podizzler3k_ : hey bros
[2015-11-09 19:19:39] podizzler3k_ : looks like cumberland mining won the majority of the coins
[2015-11-09 19:19:43] podizzler3k_ : like last time
[2015-11-09 19:19:50] podizzler3k_ : also last time there was a pretty big dump
[2015-11-09 19:19:53] podizzler3k_ : just sayin
[2015-11-09 19:20:37] habibi : podizzler3k_: yea saw the blockchain info, they not hiding that they bought it specially
[2015-11-09 19:21:19] habibi : the only question is who owns 26k coins
[2015-11-09 19:22:52] podizzler3k_ : maybe genesis trading
[2015-11-09 19:23:04] podizzler3k_ : maybe pantera
[2015-11-09 19:23:26] podizzler3k_ : genesis trading used to be secondmarket/ barry silbert
[2015-11-09 19:23:29] podizzler3k_ : they just changed names
[2015-11-09 19:24:15] podizzler3k_ : volume picking up in china
[2015-11-09 19:24:25] podizzler3k_ : lets get that mmm ponzi money!
[2015-11-09 19:24:49] TschavaTschigger : < 3 ponzi
[2015-11-09 19:25:04] habibi : podizzler3k_: where u see volumen? for me it seems hobi and okcoin are under ddos
[2015-11-09 19:26:13] floopfloop : ok coin
[2015-11-09 19:26:25] floopfloop : okcoin
[2015-11-09 19:26:28] floopfloop : THERE WE GO
[2015-11-09 19:27:06] jung1 : is there any info for how much they bought it?
[2015-11-09 19:28:20] IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb : I know this is a ways back in the chat but I was trying to catch up. That's an awesome site you have @BitMEX_Sam. Very nice
[2015-11-09 19:28:32] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks IChTj4OeMavRq6qeIyEb
[2015-11-09 19:30:45] singularity321 : I thought it was $400
[2015-11-09 19:31:46] TschavaTschigger : god where is all the volatility that brought us so much joy last week? markets are almost as flat as my girlfriend
[2015-11-09 19:32:00] kendang : rofl
[2015-11-09 19:32:03] BitMEX_Sam : Almost
[2015-11-09 19:32:07] singularity321 : oh yeh you guys might appreciate this. I bought like £300 of bitcoin in cash the other day (im from the UK). and the guy had £15,000 in cash in his car, completely insane
[2015-11-09 19:32:27] singularity321 : never met him before and he actually just trusted me to see it
[2015-11-09 19:32:34] BitMEX_Sam : In the US, that'd be asking for a good old-fashioned civil forfeiture
[2015-11-09 19:33:05] singularity321 : I heard they're even doing that with prepaid cards now
[2015-11-09 19:33:19] singularity321 : You're justice system is messed up
[2015-11-09 19:33:22] singularity321 : *your
[2015-11-09 19:33:33] kendang : yeah, load them cards up and fly them out of the country
[2015-11-09 19:33:48] kendang : but i think the .gov is taking countermeasure
[2015-11-09 19:34:07] jung1 : Bitstamp has recently learned that the Deutsche Bank Banking Group has adopted an internal policy regarding Bitcoin-related transfers. The group no longer allows transfers related to Bitcoin.
[2015-11-09 19:36:08] podizzler3k_ : wow what the hell is with this chop suey
[2015-11-09 19:36:30] cekseh : Sell the dip
[2015-11-09 19:36:32] babybaby : go LONG
[2015-11-09 19:36:33] cekseh : =)
[2015-11-09 19:36:42] cekseh : Go long at 350
[2015-11-09 19:36:47] cekseh : sell everything
[2015-11-09 19:36:48] cekseh : =)
[2015-11-09 19:36:52] podizzler3k_ : 350 what the hell
[2015-11-09 19:37:01] podizzler3k_ : dont scare me
[2015-11-09 19:37:36] jung1 : well its possible
[2015-11-09 19:37:38] singularity321 : I'd be happy for it to stay steady til just after my next pay check
[2015-11-09 19:37:52] singularity321 : 1.4btc off 10 :D
[2015-11-09 19:38:16] jung1 : podizzler3k_: how previous auction affect btc price?
[2015-11-09 19:38:37] podizzler3k_ : well the coins moved on march 12th
[2015-11-09 19:38:43] jung1 : they dumped it?
[2015-11-09 19:38:42] podizzler3k_ : and that was a fairly dumpy week
[2015-11-09 19:39:10] podizzler3k_ : nobody knows
[2015-11-09 19:39:19] podizzler3k_ : could be a coincidence
[2015-11-09 19:39:26] podizzler3k_ : nothing is really known about cumberland mining co
[2015-11-09 19:39:33] podizzler3k_ : its a bit shady
[2015-11-09 19:40:35] jung1 : maybe its ulbricht from the jail
[2015-11-09 19:40:38] singularity321 : what's your real name? ;-)
[2015-11-09 19:40:45] singularity321 : ...shady
[2015-11-09 19:40:47] singularity321 : :D
[2015-11-09 19:41:36] podizzler3k_ : slimshady3000
[2015-11-09 19:41:53] podizzler3k_ : now you guys have me scared im depositing more to add margin
[2015-11-09 19:41:56] jung1 : podz is more like whale so he is not so slim
[2015-11-09 19:42:06] podizzler3k_ : 20btc should keep me safe
[2015-11-09 19:42:24] podizzler3k_ : i cant have a dump down to 350 burn me
[2015-11-09 19:42:57] podizzler3k_ : hey wait a minute i thought you meant whale like rich
[2015-11-09 19:43:04] jung1 : I think we will hit 300 in this year
[2015-11-09 19:43:23] jung1 : podizzler3k_: maybe yes, maybe no
[2015-11-09 19:43:27] podizzler3k_ : party pooper
[2015-11-09 19:43:29] podizzler3k_ : wet blanket
[2015-11-09 19:43:35] babybaby : go LONG, all green
[2015-11-09 19:43:46] podizzler3k_ : im going to make 1000btc by shorting it down to $1 and then have $1000!
[2015-11-09 19:44:02] singularity321 : hah
[2015-11-09 19:45:04] podizzler3k_ : okcoin price swings making me nauseous
[2015-11-09 19:45:36] singularity321 : what odds would you guys give that mr robot season 2 mentions bitcoin?
[2015-11-09 19:45:41] BitMEX_Sam : High
[2015-11-09 19:45:51] BitMEX_Sam : Thought it already did at some point in S1
[2015-11-09 19:45:56] singularity321 : did it?
[2015-11-09 19:45:59] singularity321 : I didn;t notice
[2015-11-09 19:46:16] BitMEX_Sam : I think when they were going to pay the Chinese - can't remember exactly
[2015-11-09 19:46:18] singularity321 : gogole says no
[2015-11-09 19:46:44] BitMEX_Sam : Yeah I see that too. Well, anyway, high
[2015-11-09 19:46:44] jung1 : singularity321: buy drugs by bitcoin lik in 'dope'
[2015-11-09 19:47:01] podizzler3k_ : chinese are master honeydickers
[2015-11-09 19:47:13] podizzler3k_ : they'll pump it to $10,000 only to rekt us all
[2015-11-09 19:47:16] singularity321 : hehe there are shrooms growing all around here this time of year. Why buy em when yo ucan get them for free
[2015-11-09 19:47:50] podizzler3k_ : they never mentioned bitcoin once in mr robot?
[2015-11-09 19:47:51] kendang : singularity321: business opportunity ...
[2015-11-09 19:47:52] podizzler3k_ : thats really strange
[2015-11-09 19:47:57] singularity321 : dope was a good film though
[2015-11-09 19:47:58] podizzler3k_ : they mention it in the blacklist a lot
[2015-11-09 19:48:14] kendang : is blacklist season 3 out?
[2015-11-09 19:48:18] jung1 : lsd dont grow on the ground
[2015-11-09 19:48:20] podizzler3k_ : yeah i think so, i fell behind
[2015-11-09 19:48:25] podizzler3k_ : so many eps
[2015-11-09 19:48:34] podizzler3k_ : ash vs evil dead is my new favorite show
[2015-11-09 19:48:39] BitMEX_Sam : Got you guys a new present
[2015-11-09 19:48:40] BitMEX_Sam : https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/Order/Order_getCloseOutOrders
[2015-11-09 19:48:41] singularity321 : holy shit mine too
[2015-11-09 19:48:48] BitMEX_Sam : Will go in the frontend in the next few days
[2015-11-09 19:48:54] podizzler3k_ : so great. hilarious and freaky too
[2015-11-09 19:49:06] jung1 : fargo is good also
[2015-11-09 19:49:16] kendang : fargo is dop
[2015-11-09 19:49:17] podizzler3k_ : yup im watching fargo as well
[2015-11-09 19:49:19] kendang : dope
[2015-11-09 19:49:21] singularity321 : When I saw that it had bruce campbell I nearly screamed like a teenage girl
[2015-11-09 19:49:49] podizzler3k_ : boomstick in one hand chainsaw for the other hand
[2015-11-09 19:50:11] podizzler3k_ : come on 2500
[2015-11-09 19:53:21] kendang : can anyone recommend any good books on futures trading?
[2015-11-09 19:53:44] singularity321 : anyone here recommend a good js book for someone who's brainwashed against asynchronous programming from years of habbit?
[2015-11-09 19:53:49] singularity321 : ^weird
[2015-11-09 19:54:22] BitMEX_Sam : Wow that was odd
[2015-11-09 19:54:24] podizzler3k_ : not really a futures book per say but mark douglas disciplined trader is really good
[2015-11-09 19:55:03] BitMEX_Sam : singularity321: I don't know of any, learned through a lot of real-world programming, but if you're looking to do NodeJS work, definitely look into Promises, especially with Bluebird
[2015-11-09 19:56:22] kendang : podizzler3k_: thanks. downloading it as we speak
[2015-11-09 19:57:16] singularity321 : Cheers Sam I'll take a look. I really struggle with js sometimes but I'm starting to get my head around it a bit now.
[2015-11-09 19:59:09] zanza : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3s26wf/this_morning_our_research_facility_discovered/
[2015-11-09 19:59:14] podizzler3k_ : js needs to be retired
[2015-11-09 19:59:45] podizzler3k_ : haha draculas castle
[2015-11-09 20:00:21] singularity321 : ah man I only "discovered" castlevania about a month ago when my friend showed it to me. I feel like it's been missing my whole life haha
[2015-11-09 20:03:32] podizzler3k_ : some good 8 bit music
[2015-11-09 20:05:53] podizzler3k_ : every second btc is under 2500cny a little piece of me dies
[2015-11-09 20:06:03] podizzler3k_ : save a troll, buy btc today
[2015-11-09 20:06:28] jung1 : podz
[2015-11-09 20:06:34] jung1 : if you love something let it go
[2015-11-09 20:06:41] jung1 : dont fight with market
[2015-11-09 20:06:46] jung1 : close your position
[2015-11-09 20:08:59] podizzler3k_ : how dare you
[2015-11-09 20:09:06] podizzler3k_ : clearly this is a major up trend
[2015-11-09 20:09:09] singularity321 : short gold
[2015-11-09 20:09:12] podizzler3k_ : if you squint really hard it all becomes clear
[2015-11-09 20:12:03] floopfloop : the premium on march is insane
[2015-11-09 20:12:39] jung1 : its still fair price imo
[2015-11-09 20:12:52] jung1 : in march we can hit 1k
[2015-11-09 20:12:52] podizzler3k_ : huobi being ddosed?
[2015-11-09 20:13:00] jung1 : i think so
[2015-11-09 20:13:05] podizzler3k_ : next june is gonna be insane
[2015-11-09 20:13:08] podizzler3k_ : with the halving
[2015-11-09 20:13:11] podizzler3k_ : i want to have a lot by then
[2015-11-09 20:13:17] jung1 : yeah
[2015-11-09 20:13:21] podizzler3k_ : to ride it up and then short the fuck out of it the moment it halves
[2015-11-09 20:13:51] jung1 : but it will be freefall
[2015-11-09 20:14:03] jung1 : much more stronger than last dump
[2015-11-09 20:14:15] jung1 : cant wait
[2015-11-09 20:14:16] singularity321 : I'm just happy to have gone from 1 to 8 btc in two years, probably a pittance to you guys but most of that I made trading rather than buying it
[2015-11-09 20:14:21] singularity321 : so I think I'm doing well
[2015-11-09 20:14:35] kendang : singularity321: congrats
[2015-11-09 20:14:40] jung1 : yeah its nice
[2015-11-09 20:14:41] singularity321 : thanks dude