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[2017-02-04 22:18:46] Tetsuo : St. Petersburg in June how does that sound?
[2017-02-04 22:19:10] MikeTrump : Paytime in five hours
[2017-02-04 22:20:41] sleger : Tetsuo: hey ho
[2017-02-04 22:20:45] Tetsuo : no honestly , the fact that huobi and bitvc are no longer reachable might not be so good.... i thought this would at least take unitl monday
[2017-02-04 22:20:46] sleger : what you doing
[2017-02-04 22:21:06] Tetsuo : sleger: you´re a day late a dollar short, sorry my friend
[2017-02-04 22:21:09] MikeTrump : that's a sign
[2017-02-04 22:21:35] MikeTrump : we can go anywhere between 400 and 80k
[2017-02-04 22:22:15] Tetsuo : http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=day%20late%20and%20a%20dollar%20short
[2017-02-04 22:23:05] MikeTrump : not too late to short from here though
[2017-02-04 22:23:33] MikeTrump : am shorting since 868
[2017-02-04 22:23:36] Tetsuo : also a great LP by thrones
[2017-02-04 22:23:37] Adriana : I am not sure if I am still going to be in Russian in June. But this time is definitely best to visit the city. SPB + white nights ❤
[2017-02-04 22:24:27] Tetsuo : white nights is a great novel by dostojewskj too :-)
[2017-02-04 22:25:43] Tetsuo : i guess at least we share some interests...
[2017-02-04 22:26:03] Tetsuo : former drug abuser, totally into sex and st. petersburg
[2017-02-04 22:26:09] Tetsuo : sounds great
[2017-02-04 22:26:14] Sultan Pepper : Just fuk already
[2017-02-04 22:26:22] Ahhere : Unsolicited movie review: Alicia Vikander gets butt naked in the danish girl but the movie will fart on your brain.
[2017-02-04 22:26:55] MikeTrump : Tetsuo: you trying to hit on her ?
[2017-02-04 22:27:28] Adriana : Tetsuo: great novel! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtyVS8DC8bE
[2017-02-04 22:27:52] sleger : he's trying to steal my gf in front of me !
[2017-02-04 22:28:25] MikeTrump : you are together for real or just in the trollbox?
[2017-02-04 22:28:27] -_- : http://i.imgur.com/kXmg5P5.gif
[2017-02-04 22:28:33] Tetsuo : Adriana: stunning
[2017-02-04 22:29:11] sleger : MikeTrump: is the trollbox not the real world ??
[2017-02-04 22:29:31] MikeTrump : well I see some of you actually live here
[2017-02-04 22:29:41] Tetsuo : Adriana: i already speak a bit russian my ex ex girlfriend was from novosbirsk
[2017-02-04 22:29:55] Tetsuo : where are u from
[2017-02-04 22:30:37] MikeTrump : Adriana: Интересно
[2017-02-04 22:31:35] Tetsuo : Adriana: thanks for your PM i also think that sleger is kinda ridiculous when it comes about girls and flirting, but he seems to be an ok guy after all
[2017-02-04 22:31:36] Adriana : Tetsuo: I will stay there for a month in a month, I think
[2017-02-04 22:31:39] BTCDJS : Adriana: Russian architecture is interesting. Any idea what those colourful domes are made from? Is it painted wood? Or something else?
[2017-02-04 22:32:55] Tetsuo : BTCDJS: sorry , but your wood won´t get painted
[2017-02-04 22:33:07] sleger : lol
[2017-02-04 22:33:12] BTCDJS : I know boring. But I'm in construction therefor interested
[2017-02-04 22:33:43] MikeTrump : any idea why bitmex price is higher than all usd exchanges?
[2017-02-04 22:34:09] BTCDJS : Tetsuo: I'm not sexually interested in a girl I've never seen. But you go ahead big boy
[2017-02-04 22:34:11] Adriana : Tetsuo: I know Sleger is a nice guy
[2017-02-04 22:34:47] MikeTrump : she could also not be a girl at all
[2017-02-04 22:34:59] BTCDJS : ^^^^
[2017-02-04 22:35:20] Tetsuo : Adriana: polyamorous is ok for me but i´m not into threesomes
[2017-02-04 22:35:21] Ahhere : If 9/10 girls you see you would fuck its a good bet
[2017-02-04 22:35:56] MikeTrump : like shorting here
[2017-02-04 22:36:36] Ahhere : Mystery muff
[2017-02-04 22:36:44] Adriana : BTCDJS: SPB was built from stone, marble and bricks in general
[2017-02-04 22:37:09] BTCDJS : Adriana: how do they have those bright colours?
[2017-02-04 22:37:37] BTCDJS : Different colour marble
[2017-02-04 22:37:39] Tetsuo : LTC and Ethereum was built from blood and sweat
[2017-02-04 22:37:51] Adriana : BTCDJS: paint, i believe
[2017-02-04 22:38:15] Adriana : Tetsuo: not into threesomes, too
[2017-02-04 22:38:25] Ahhere : is it bad if your gf only does oral when she is drunk asking for a friend
[2017-02-04 22:38:36] BTCDJS : Ahhere: nope
[2017-02-04 22:38:45] BTCDJS : shes average
[2017-02-04 22:39:14] Ahhere : Thanks my friend will be relieved @BTCDJS
[2017-02-04 22:39:39] BTCDJS : Ahhere: I have a friend who's wife is the same way too
[2017-02-04 22:39:49] rapidtrades : wtf is with this chat tonight
[2017-02-04 22:39:55] Ahhere : lol @BTCDJS @rapidtrades
[2017-02-04 22:40:13] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: tuesto and sleger brought it down
[2017-02-04 22:40:34] BTCDJS : rapidtrades: they're chatting up a name
[2017-02-04 22:42:20] Ahhere : oh holy budda balls finex back at 1030 biznatches
[2017-02-04 22:44:05] cookielito : Its going to the moon
[2017-02-04 22:44:06] rapidtrades : oh good, i was curious what those losers were doing with their tokens
[2017-02-04 22:44:17] rapidtrades : buying btc i guess
[2017-02-04 22:44:37] rapidtrades : would be fun if CFTC slaps a huge fine on them
[2017-02-04 22:44:47] rapidtrades : to see the margin calls
[2017-02-04 22:44:51] Ahhere : rapidtrades: did u just call the whole of finex losers?
[2017-02-04 22:44:57] rapidtrades : as tokens crash in value
[2017-02-04 22:45:05] rapidtrades : Ahhere: yes i did
[2017-02-04 22:45:06] MikeTrump : 400
[2017-02-04 22:45:20] Ahhere : oh snap this dude just tucked his penis in this messed up movie
[2017-02-04 22:46:44] rapidtrades : maybe i can finally get some arbs going today
[2017-02-04 23:17:49] paper : jesus fucking christ. i'm new to bitmex. it dropped my leverage from 10x to 7ish in no time
[2017-02-04 23:18:50] paper : must investigate
[2017-02-04 23:21:45] rafaelnorman : paper when are you taking profit?
[2017-02-04 23:23:45] rafaelnorman : or are you just going to ride this all the way through... until you get de leveraged...
[2017-02-04 23:25:10] MikeHunt : i think i might have more success if i use myself as a contrary indicator
[2017-02-04 23:26:02] sleger : i confirm
[2017-02-04 23:26:27] Ahhere : MikeHunt: lol but what if you know what you know you would do normally
[2017-02-04 23:28:27] MikeHunt : Ahhere: lol
[2017-02-04 23:31:55] yungyang : MikeHunt: you are the contrarian !!!!!
[2017-02-04 23:32:39] yungyang : gonna be tough now that you know
[2017-02-04 23:32:50] yungyang : guess I'm gonna have to learn how to trade :/
[2017-02-04 23:34:31] Ahhere : Guise anyone want to do a sex change op i got on groupon its half price if i can get someone else to do it too?
[2017-02-04 23:35:53] Noobz : heh the infamous swap a willy groupon
[2017-02-04 23:38:23] Ahhere : maybe i can do it and then change back to get the deal
[2017-02-04 23:41:30] cookielito : I am a contrarian in the traditional sense but when it comes to bitcoin and markets/assets that are intrinsically contrarian I find it hard to be anythjng but bullish
[2017-02-04 23:48:19] yungyang : Ahhere: I'm in brah
[2017-02-04 23:48:24] yungyang : lets get weird
[2017-02-04 23:48:49] -_- : local hospital needs a fluid donor. i wonder if they need blood or sperm
[2017-02-04 23:50:19] Ahhere : yungyang: we could call each other sis instead
[2017-02-04 23:51:45] Ahhere : see how it feels k
[2017-02-04 23:52:14] Ahhere : k sis?
[2017-02-04 23:53:27] MikeHunt : Ahhere: wont that make his wife tingtong mad?
[2017-02-04 23:55:42] Ahhere : MikeHunt: only if his tits are bigger
[2017-02-04 23:56:08] paper : rafaelnorman: i was intending to ride it hundreds of dollars higher and i don't know why just having it go up $40 or whatever got me dropped from 10x to 7x
[2017-02-04 23:57:27] paper : does it give you your leverage back when price drops, or do you just end up in rekt cemetery?
[2017-02-04 23:57:55] Sultan Pepper : Less leverage=less rekt sis
[2017-02-04 23:57:57] Ahhere : paper: did your actual position get smaller?
[2017-02-04 23:58:49] paper : Ahhere: nope, same amount of contracts
[2017-02-05 00:00:22] Sultan Pepper : then you get same profit/loss
[2017-02-05 00:00:40] Ahhere : ^ what my girl said
[2017-02-05 00:01:17] longbydefault : hi paper... i got out half my position 1037ish... and have buy orders back from 1030 down to 1015...
[2017-02-05 00:01:27] Sultan Pepper : This chick's newer than me!
[2017-02-05 00:01:38] paper : yeah i get same profits, but i'm concerned that if price crashes at some point it won't give me my leverage back
[2017-02-05 00:01:46] paper : and i'd get liquidated
[2017-02-05 00:02:05] paper : but right now i'm in 25% or so profits
[2017-02-05 00:02:13] longbydefault : you'd have to do it manually... by adding/removing margin...
[2017-02-05 00:02:40] Ahhere : paper: go cross hun
[2017-02-05 00:03:00] paper : yeah, where do you add leverage
[2017-02-05 00:03:44] longbydefault : in the specific trade in your positions... click on the margin column
[2017-02-05 00:04:17] paper : okay, great.
[2017-02-05 00:04:31] longbydefault : decreasing margin would increase leverage
[2017-02-05 00:04:46] paper : now, i have two positions that are the result of opening a ton of small contracts, so i guess it just aggregates them
[2017-02-05 00:04:57] paper : one is btc/cny and other is btc/usd
[2017-02-05 00:05:12] paper : so, only two rows/positions
[2017-02-05 00:05:20] Ahhere : drag the slider from 66 to cross to allow all positions to eat up all your funds before closing
[2017-02-05 00:05:21] paper : for those, where do i check if i'm in cross
[2017-02-05 00:05:57] Ahhere : at least thats how i think it works. Have been wrong b4
[2017-02-05 00:06:53] paper : i don't see a slider or anything that says "66"
[2017-02-05 00:07:13] Ahhere : Find in page your position
[2017-02-05 00:08:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 41322 @ 1034.30
[2017-02-05 00:14:21] Ahhere : paper: https://www.bitmex.com/app/isolatedMargin
[2017-02-05 00:15:02] -_- : damn 41k
[2017-02-05 00:15:05] -_- : who got rekt
[2017-02-05 00:16:23] paper : thx :)
[2017-02-05 00:16:26] -_- : np
[2017-02-05 00:27:45] hh : should I long here?
[2017-02-05 00:29:17] Noobz : If you think it goes up from here sure
[2017-02-05 00:29:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 363 @ 7182.5
[2017-02-05 00:29:36] longbydefault : put buy orders in 1030, 1025 etc.. that's what i would do if i wasn't long already...
[2017-02-05 00:37:07] -_- : to for a ... 100x short
[2017-02-05 00:54:35] sleger : did rapid or mikedummy or papou bought in finally ?
[2017-02-05 00:56:59] longbydefault : haha... i don't know about papou... he still waiting for 700
[2017-02-05 00:59:01] sleger : aethlios too
[2017-02-05 01:02:01] Nerve : Maybe next 50 years
[2017-02-05 01:02:08] Nerve : lol
[2017-02-05 01:06:20] sleger : guys there is a cap on 0kcoin futures !
[2017-02-05 01:07:53] sleger : "The price could not higher than 100,000!"
[2017-02-05 01:09:08] enki0182 : sleger: source
[2017-02-05 01:09:15] enki0182 : ?
[2017-02-05 01:09:18] -_- : it is true
[2017-02-05 01:09:21] micmix : this rally is in trouble!
[2017-02-05 01:09:27] -_- : try putting in an order that high it wont let you
[2017-02-05 01:09:54] -_- : i'm holding my breath for a dump
[2017-02-05 01:10:13] -_- : but okco1n whales keep putting up buy walls
[2017-02-05 01:12:25] micmix : I was hoping for $1m coin by the end of the month, I guess we'll get stuck at $100k :-(
[2017-02-05 01:13:19] sleger : enki0182: just try yourself dummy
[2017-02-05 02:07:40] rapidtrades : FROZEN
[2017-02-05 02:07:46] rapidtrades : where the trades at?
[2017-02-05 02:08:28] rapidtrades : y no trades on swap yo
[2017-02-05 02:11:56] yungyang : Niqqas scared
[2017-02-05 02:24:37] Ugly_Old_Goat : Next pop 1080
[2017-02-05 02:25:03] Ugly_Old_Goat : Long Mch short Perp kicking in with payment to shorts
[2017-02-05 02:25:29] Ugly_Old_Goat : should go to 20-40 premium
[2017-02-05 02:31:20] rapidtrades : shut up goat
[2017-02-05 02:45:12] enki0182 : almost launch time
[2017-02-05 02:45:14] enki0182 : *lunch time
[2017-02-05 02:55:57] Ugly_Old_Goat : Still need to blow short out of swap, but it will take higher prices since the start getting paid March should pop to 20+ premium Lng March short swap should continue to work could go to 40+ premium March March still good buy compared to spot but not to swap. Again, pressure will remain on spot and March should starting popping . The 9 hour payday will be big.
[2017-02-05 03:05:11] Ugly_Old_Goat : rapidtrades: still short? What is your blow out poiint. Somewhere you might want admit you were wrong. Good book I just read and found out I follow the right principles The Art of Execution by Lee Freeman-Shor or How the world's best investor get it wrong and still make millions.rapidtrades; Read this an get your head screwed on right before you come back here
[2017-02-05 03:06:34] sleger : Ugly_Old_Goat: i was wrong with your mother
[2017-02-05 03:06:40] sleger : oops wrong account :D
[2017-02-05 03:06:44] Papou : lol
[2017-02-05 03:07:19] sleger : Papou: how is that wait for 700 going ?
[2017-02-05 03:07:29] Papou : good
[2017-02-05 03:07:38] Papou : should be here soon
[2017-02-05 03:08:45] Ugly_Old_Goat : Cut your losses, If you are convinced your are right double down. I sold at 1146 I bot from 875 to 815 and double downed at 735. All we have done is blown out every one who bot on the way up over 900. Now we can resume the major trend with little chance of a repeat.
[2017-02-05 03:09:25] Ugly_Old_Goat : Got the break under 1000 to make it to 700. Good change 1000 is history forever
[2017-02-05 03:11:59] Ugly_Old_Goat : The longs have gently squeezed the short nuts for three weeks. Watch them jump when we goose em. Seriously guys a good read. It actually protrays successful trading
[2017-02-05 03:13:39] micmix : I have conspiracy theory about persistent backwardation on okc: it's Jihan Wu and other Chinese miners building big shorts before hard fork and attack on bitcoin
[2017-02-05 03:14:31] Papou : probably
[2017-02-05 03:15:07] Ugly_Old_Goat : And I highly recommend if you have been whipsawed the last 6 weeks you exit the market and read the book before you come back. You can succeed but your head must be screwed on right. Strategy (money manament) is far more important than tactics (trading technique) You can have bad techniques as I often do, if you have sound strategy (money managment). Best trading to all but I will not suffer fools.
[2017-02-05 03:15:26] dodic : i blame the lizard people
[2017-02-05 03:17:09] Ugly_Old_Goat : micmix: This backwardation is simply the unwinding of the Yaun surprise upward valuation, the no fee, and the silly margin polocies.
[2017-02-05 03:18:43] Ugly_Old_Goat : The backwardation wiill end and you are seeing it. Before the crash march was 160 over perp which as all overleverage specualtion
[2017-02-05 03:23:26] micmix : the selling pressure eased up during Chinese weekend and I was hoping to see the end of backwardation by the end of this weekend but I'm not sure what's going to happen on Monday
[2017-02-05 03:23:58] yungyang : Pretty exact reason for backwardation if it's jihan...
[2017-02-05 03:24:14] yungyang : even with $100m, he does not have the resources to attack the network
[2017-02-05 03:24:55] micmix : most leveraged position on CNY markets were closed by the end of last week. today is the last day you could have leveraged position on okc. it's going to be autoclosed by tomorrow.
[2017-02-05 03:25:37] enki0182 : micmix: you saying 52k whale on okc going to be closed tomorrow?
[2017-02-05 03:25:47] micmix : no, okc cny spot
[2017-02-05 03:25:50] yungyang : what about quarterlies l? Aren't they still open after tomorrow
[2017-02-05 03:26:06] yungyang : right okay
[2017-02-05 03:26:21] yungyang : don't think the spot closing will have a large effect either direction
[2017-02-05 03:27:03] micmix : the last day to get a loan on okc cny spot was 21 or 22 and loan duration is 15 days
[2017-02-05 03:28:04] enki0182 : micmix: ty
[2017-02-05 03:30:30] micmix : that's what I'm saying, almost all cny spot loans are already closed. if cny loans unwinding was the main cause of backwardation, we would be out of it by now
[2017-02-05 03:37:42] yungyang : Right but the quarterlies are still unwinding. I'd imagine a large amount of margin would be used there
[2017-02-05 03:38:58] rapidtrades : guys thoughts on this gayass pump? @micmix @Rado
[2017-02-05 03:41:56] Ugly_Old_Goat : Not so. It takes time to gets your funds and then get them to another decent exchange. The backwardatiin ended right on time. The market will get back to normal carrying charge. Its not rocket science, it is simply market dynamics of a bad siiutation created by Chinese exchanges
[2017-02-05 03:45:15] rapidtrades : goat u don't know anything about nything
[2017-02-05 03:46:11] lockhedge : micmix: my guess: the main reason for OKC backwardation is that Chinese (retail) speculators aren't allowed to trade there anymore. while it's still relatively easy for big players (e.g. miners) to access the liquidity on OKC (via a company that is registered outside China) for hedging, Chinese retail traders have less options to go long now.
[2017-02-05 03:46:38] Ugly_Old_Goat : The innovation does not come from China, the speculation, mining, and mine hedging comes from China. The innovation comes from elsewhere
[2017-02-05 03:47:59] micmix : lockhedge: yes, that makes sense. selling pressure comes from big players hedging, and there is not enough buying pressure to compensate
[2017-02-05 03:48:02] Ugly_Old_Goat : lockhedge: Exactly the smart money was fucking stupid money.
[2017-02-05 03:48:42] Ugly_Old_Goat : The China bank had enough, it was a wise move but a bad precednt
[2017-02-05 03:49:07] enki0182 : Ugly_Old_Goat: regardless of what others say - i appreciate you sharing your thoughts. +1 to you.
[2017-02-05 03:49:15] Ugly_Old_Goat : The stupid money stayed stupid a very long time
[2017-02-05 03:49:23] rapidtrades : i pray for a day when the amount of bullshit posted in this chat drops below the 95% mark
[2017-02-05 03:50:29] micmix : rapidtrades: not possible ;-)
[2017-02-05 03:50:32] Ugly_Old_Goat : Basically the miners and smart speculators just fleeced the public
[2017-02-05 03:50:34] j8 : also seems like there have been big investments in mining, which they might want to hedge
[2017-02-05 03:50:52] micmix : I will strive to provide up to 90% of bs
[2017-02-05 03:50:59] rapidtrades : isnt the cost to mine btc now at 500
[2017-02-05 03:51:27] rapidtrades : with 1 year old equipment?
[2017-02-05 03:51:43] rapidtrades : smone posted that in this chat, odds are it was bullshit
[2017-02-05 03:51:51] micmix : I read that it's even lower for biggest farms but it was before recent large difficulty increases
[2017-02-05 03:51:52] Ugly_Old_Goat : ITime to go long Preparation H
[2017-02-05 03:52:30] rapidtrades : micmix: so there's nothing that justifies 1000+
[2017-02-05 03:53:35] micmix : speculation is always the reason
[2017-02-05 03:53:38] Ugly_Old_Goat : rapidtrades: you are exposing your ignorance. The cost of mining is equipment and electriicty which varies vastly. You need cheap; electricity to mine effectively. Often acquired through corruption
[2017-02-05 03:54:18] rapidtrades : cheap countries have cheap electrity dummy
[2017-02-05 03:54:36] rapidtrades : 'often acquired through corruption' what does that even mean
[2017-02-05 03:54:38] Papou : down she goes
[2017-02-05 03:56:27] Ugly_Old_Goat : Yes, 1000 is justified because btc is only blockchain. It is the only crypto with actual use. you need to watch the last six months of viideos here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytz9grh3Qsg
[2017-02-05 03:57:55] Ugly_Old_Goat : It means the Chinese miners are getting electirictiy under cost of productions cause they have an excess. It means miners are i Iceland because electricity is cheap.
[2017-02-05 03:58:24] rapidtrades : im not watching 1 minute of that crap
[2017-02-05 03:58:38] micmix : it doesn't matter how the power is acquired, the mining economics ensure that all mining will be centralized in places with cheapest power. the cheapest power is excess power that power companies produce when consumption dtops. it's free and China has lots.
[2017-02-05 03:58:40] Ugly_Old_Goat : r @rapidtrades you have not clue of mining you are just listening to rumors
[2017-02-05 03:58:54] enki0182 : Ugly_Old_Goat: +1
[2017-02-05 03:58:55] rapidtrades : Ugly_Old_Goat: PAYDAY BITCH
[2017-02-05 03:58:57] Ugly_Old_Goat : micmix: yup
[2017-02-05 03:58:59] rapidtrades : PAYDAY
[2017-02-05 03:59:02] enki0182 : rapidtrades: -1
[2017-02-05 03:59:06] rapidtrades : SHOW ME THE MONEY
[2017-02-05 03:59:12] rapidtrades : GIMME MONIES FROM LONGSIES
[2017-02-05 03:59:29] rapidtrades : 30 SECS TO PAYDAY
[2017-02-05 04:00:23] rapidtrades : that felt good, bring on the next one
[2017-02-05 04:00:23] Ugly_Old_Goat : Yes I am short perp but long 3 march for every 1 perp short. Playing the spread as well as staying long.
[2017-02-05 04:00:59] rapidtrades : noone cares, that just makes me short more
[2017-02-05 04:01:48] rapidtrades : first target 880, next target 5XX
[2017-02-05 04:02:19] Ugly_Old_Goat : I started selling lightly at 950 but bascially taking profit from a large long position. I have a target of +20 on the spread.,
[2017-02-05 04:02:53] Ugly_Old_Goat : rapidtrades: so where do you exit?
[2017-02-05 04:03:11] longbydefault : what the hell are you talking about rapid trade hahaha...
[2017-02-05 04:03:18] Ugly_Old_Goat : If you do not have an exit point you are a fool and will get blown away
[2017-02-05 04:03:33] rapidtrades : yes i don't have an exit point atm
[2017-02-05 04:04:49] Ugly_Old_Goat : I will be a buyer well above 900 if we get a sell off. But I do not expect one. However, I do expect March to go 20 over regardless of price
[2017-02-05 04:06:23] rapidtrades : yeah u buy goat
[2017-02-05 04:06:40] enki0182 : ill buy too
[2017-02-05 04:07:24] Ugly_Old_Goat : Another excellent article https://twitter.com/tuurdemeester
[2017-02-05 04:07:39] rapidtrades : that guy is an idiot
[2017-02-05 04:08:22] Ugly_Old_Goat : The chart comparing East and West is right one. Plus the article hints of what is to come. It is not what you think and will be totally under the radar
[2017-02-05 04:08:42] Ugly_Old_Goat : rapidtrades: your stripes are showing
[2017-02-05 04:08:56] rapidtrades : i doubt the Turd has anything useful for me
[2017-02-05 04:09:43] rapidtrades : he's just as useless as Hunchback Greek
[2017-02-05 04:11:07] Ugly_Old_Goat : rapidtrades: your ego is big and your mind is shallow Enough of you. I will not suffer fools . I provide sound advice backup by actual research for those who are willing to listen to an Ugly Old Goat with chronic diarheera
[2017-02-05 04:12:07] rapidtrades : tonight we'll feast on bulls asses
[2017-02-05 04:12:22] enki0182 : rapidtrades: tru.... on their asses
[2017-02-05 04:12:45] enki0182 : prolly wont taste that good too
[2017-02-05 04:12:49] rapidtrades : in some cultures that's considered a delicates
[2017-02-05 04:13:16] micmix : I thought it was bull balls, no?
[2017-02-05 04:13:32] rapidtrades : micmix: eww, gay
[2017-02-05 04:14:08] micmix : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testicle_(food)
[2017-02-05 04:14:31] Ugly_Old_Goat : rocky mountain oysters. Actually they are quite good deep fried
[2017-02-05 04:14:38] laisee : Mountain oystaers are considered delucacy in kiwiland
[2017-02-05 04:14:48] micmix : goat testicles only 3.92 euro per kilo
[2017-02-05 04:15:33] Ugly_Old_Goat : Used to have an annual nut party at KC stockyards 30 years ago
[2017-02-05 04:15:50] micmix : oh yes, I remember eating those: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Mountain_oysters
[2017-02-05 04:16:03] enki0182 : do people here generally use croos margin or isolated?
[2017-02-05 04:16:41] j8 : croos, always
[2017-02-05 04:17:01] micmix : I use crows too
[2017-02-05 04:17:09] enki0182 : j8: ty for your input
[2017-02-05 04:17:12] enki0182 : micmix: +1
[2017-02-05 04:17:12] micmix : usually black
[2017-02-05 04:17:13] rapidgains : fixed is basically a built in stop
[2017-02-05 04:17:18] rapidgains : which im not a fan of
[2017-02-05 04:17:47] enki0182 : rapidgains: i like your name better than rapidtrades... lol
[2017-02-05 04:18:04] rapidgains : u know it fam
[2017-02-05 04:18:08] enki0182 : prolly not as psychologically maliscious or unstable also... +1
[2017-02-05 04:19:45] Ugly_Old_Goat : good funding for shorts will take March to premium very quickly Buy March sell perp is the safe compared to any new net position
[2017-02-05 04:20:00] Ugly_Old_Goat : But trend should continue up
[2017-02-05 04:43:48] xue : there is very good ,I am lucky
[2017-02-05 04:44:07] ronensinger : These markets are trash right now
[2017-02-05 04:48:18] enki0182 : ronensinger: hidden gold
[2017-02-05 04:48:45] Sultan Pepper : Ugly_old_goat: I think you recommended a book earlier, what was it?
[2017-02-05 04:49:25] aethlios : will PBOC intervene again to kill that rally??
[2017-02-05 04:50:15] xue : Yes, I am Chinese
[2017-02-05 04:51:03] MikeHunt : pboc said they are still investigating
[2017-02-05 04:51:27] MikeHunt : i think they will always be "investigating" bitcoin so they can try and control it
[2017-02-05 04:52:09] xue : PBOC will to issue virtual currency
[2017-02-05 04:52:37] xue : So suppress bitcoin
[2017-02-05 04:53:06] MikeHunt : xue: any idea how long until that happens?
[2017-02-05 04:53:38] Farzad : xue: no one wants a chinese controled crypto currency. even if it happens, it will not have much effect on BTC
[2017-02-05 04:53:55] MikeHunt : Farzad: it will effectively kill the china btc volume
[2017-02-05 04:53:58] MikeHunt : thats bad
[2017-02-05 04:54:12] Farzad : MikeHunt: why ?
[2017-02-05 04:54:24] Farzad : u mean they will ban BTC ?
[2017-02-05 04:55:36] MikeHunt : Farzad: that would just push it underground
[2017-02-05 04:55:41] yungyang : Not it won't mike
[2017-02-05 04:55:48] xue : Another reason：Chinese corrupt officials use bitcoin to transfer property to western countries
[2017-02-05 04:55:52] MikeHunt : i suspect they will implement capital controls on the exchanges
[2017-02-05 04:56:00] yungyang : MIKE ARE YOU SERIOUS
[2017-02-05 04:56:05] yungyang : HOLY SHIT
[2017-02-05 04:56:15] yungyang : i swear you're really just the most brilliant troll
[2017-02-05 04:56:29] Farzad : yungyang: calm down buddy
[2017-02-05 04:56:35] yungyang : dude I cant
[2017-02-05 04:56:41] yungyang : i just cant
[2017-02-05 04:56:46] yungyang : tbis mike guy
[2017-02-05 04:56:49] yungyang : has me unhinged
[2017-02-05 04:56:58] Farzad : lol
[2017-02-05 04:56:59] yungyang : UNHINGED
[2017-02-05 04:57:20] Farzad : he is free to have his opinion
[2017-02-05 04:57:24] yungyang : i mean shit man earlier I agreed to a sex change for a groupon
[2017-02-05 04:57:32] Farzad : I do not agree with him as well
[2017-02-05 04:58:17] Farzad : we may see a dump in market if china takes any action against BTC, but it will recover in long term
[2017-02-05 04:58:33] MikeHunt : in the long term i am bullish
[2017-02-05 04:58:57] Farzad : I just hope that china does it, so I can buy some cheap coins
[2017-02-05 04:58:58] MikeHunt : just saying that until china is dealt with, it will be a constant axe hanging over btc
[2017-02-05 04:58:59] xue : China will limit bitcoins Exchange dollars
[2017-02-05 04:59:09] Farzad : I bought all my coins at $10 few years ago. lol
[2017-02-05 04:59:36] MikeHunt : xue: do you think they will do address white-listing to prevent capital flight?
[2017-02-05 04:59:58] Farzad : MikeHunt: Yes, I agree
[2017-02-05 05:01:03] Farzad : xue: well, I think u have no idea what u r talking about.
[2017-02-05 05:01:15] lockhedge : MikeHunt: how should "address white-listing" work?
[2017-02-05 05:01:17] Farzad : xue: these are your personal opinions
[2017-02-05 05:01:33] MikeHunt : lockhedge: basically unless an address is verified as being chinese, you cant send to it
[2017-02-05 05:01:59] micmix : lo, that's not possible
[2017-02-05 05:02:04] MikeHunt : micmix: o rly?
[2017-02-05 05:02:04] micmix : *lol
[2017-02-05 05:02:08] lockhedge : MikeHunt: yeah, how should that technically work?
[2017-02-05 05:02:16] MikeHunt : lockhedge: exchanges are centralized
[2017-02-05 05:02:23] Farzad : do u think chinese officials are that stupid ?
[2017-02-05 05:02:24] MikeHunt : you can only buy btc at those exchanges
[2017-02-05 05:02:34] MikeHunt : Farzad: whats that supposed to mean?
[2017-02-05 05:02:38] Farzad : lets say they do this for bitcoin
[2017-02-05 05:02:44] Shaman : couldnt people sell "verified" addresses then?
[2017-02-05 05:02:45] Farzad : what about ETH ?
[2017-02-05 05:02:48] Farzad : XRP ?
[2017-02-05 05:02:50] Farzad : FCT ?
[2017-02-05 05:02:55] MikeHunt : Farzad: if it becomes a problem they may do it to the rest
[2017-02-05 05:03:00] MikeHunt : only at official exchanges
[2017-02-05 05:03:04] MikeHunt : to verified chinese addresses
[2017-02-05 05:03:10] MikeHunt : create a closed loop system
[2017-02-05 05:03:14] xue : 央行再查比特币平台 交易量自370万骤减至20万
[2017-02-05 05:03:20] Farzad : there are hundreds of crypto currencies
[2017-02-05 05:03:35] micmix : it's impossible in bitcoin, you can always give private keys to your "verified chinese address" to a friend in US
[2017-02-05 05:03:59] MikeHunt : if you can only buy from certain official exchanges
[2017-02-05 05:04:14] MikeHunt : u can only send that crypto to verified addresses
[2017-02-05 05:04:16] lockhedge : MikeHunt: they could only control withdraws from exchanges, not what happens after that
[2017-02-05 05:04:32] MikeHunt : lockhedge: once its in the exchange its controlled
[2017-02-05 05:04:37] micmix : as long as withdrawals are allowed they can't do anything
[2017-02-05 05:04:43] MikeHunt : micmix: how would you get the private keys?
[2017-02-05 05:04:44] Farzad : if they impose such limitations to exchanges, the market will go underground
[2017-02-05 05:05:05] micmix : and no one will buy bitcoin on an exchange that doens't allow withdrawals
[2017-02-05 05:05:14] micmix : MikeHunt: you have no idea how bitcoin works
[2017-02-05 05:05:31] MikeHunt : micmix: thats not an argument
[2017-02-05 05:05:47] MikeHunt : Farzad: chinese have other options like gold
[2017-02-05 05:06:08] MikeHunt : Farzad: gold is acceptable to the PRC because they ban the export of it
[2017-02-05 05:07:10] MikeHunt : also if they link it to sesame credit they can create a positive incentive for using their own official coin
[2017-02-05 05:08:41] micmix : MikeHunt: the only way to control bitcoin is to disable withdrawals from the exchange to any external address
[2017-02-05 05:09:45] micmix : if you have your own bitcoin wallet, you have private keys to your coins and you can email those private keys to anyone in the world
[2017-02-05 05:09:59] MikeHunt : micmix: thats why i think they;ll do withdrawal controls
[2017-02-05 05:10:07] MikeHunt : only allow exchange to exchange transfers
[2017-02-05 05:10:19] Farzad : they can do all they want
[2017-02-05 05:10:23] micmix : it's the same as banning bitcoin
[2017-02-05 05:10:27] Farzad : people will find a way around it
[2017-02-05 05:10:39] lockhedge : like him https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/zhaodong1982/
[2017-02-05 05:11:23] MikeHunt : chinese will just have to find other ways of exporting capital
[2017-02-05 05:11:27] micmix : MikeHunt: if bitcoin cannot be withdrawn from the exchange, you are not buying bitcoin, you are buying numbers on the screen. no one will do that
[2017-02-05 05:11:49] j8 : yep
[2017-02-05 05:12:02] micmix : by design bitcoin cannot be controlled, only banned and pushed underground
[2017-02-05 05:12:44] MikeHunt : micmix: thats why i think it will damage volume
[2017-02-05 05:12:57] alejandromasari : fuck
[2017-02-05 05:14:03] alejandromasari : fuck my cat
[2017-02-05 05:14:18] micmix : alejandromasari: did you cat sell all your coins?
[2017-02-05 05:16:02] Farzad : look at this : https://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/volume/24h?c=e&r=hour&t=bar
[2017-02-05 05:16:29] Farzad : china's exchanges volumes are not as significant as u think
[2017-02-05 05:17:00] MikeHunt : like 50-60% /
[2017-02-05 05:17:02] MikeHunt : ?
[2017-02-05 05:17:09] Farzad : like 30%
[2017-02-05 05:17:17] micmix : also I think it's a myth that Chinese use bitcoin to avoid capital controls
[2017-02-05 05:17:38] MikeHunt : Farzad: u picking china bed time?
[2017-02-05 05:17:48] Farzad : MikeHunt: it is 24hr volume
[2017-02-05 05:17:58] Sultan Pepper : Ugly_old_goat
[2017-02-05 05:19:04] MikeHunt : Farzad: what causes a dump isnt so much the loss of volume but the sentiment
[2017-02-05 05:19:05] MikeHunt : ie: fomo
[2017-02-05 05:20:15] Farzad : MikeHunt: as I said, I agree that a dump will happen. but it is an opportunity to buy some cheap coins
[2017-02-05 05:20:29] Farzad : It will recover
[2017-02-05 05:20:51] Farzad : I really hope it happens
[2017-02-05 05:21:55] MikeHunt : Farzad: oh yeah i cant wait
[2017-02-05 05:48:41] logart : Hello
[2017-02-05 05:49:00] logart : what BTCUSD chart does bitumen follows?
[2017-02-05 05:49:11] logart : bitmex* follows?
[2017-02-05 05:49:22] logart : bitstamp or what exchange?
[2017-02-05 05:49:41] BTCDJS : logart: Bitstamp and 0kcoin
[2017-02-05 05:50:18] BTCDJS : O K c o I n
[2017-02-05 05:50:27] logart : what you mean by w00dchipper
[2017-02-05 05:50:37] logart : Bistamp or OKcoin?
[2017-02-05 05:50:42] logart : Ohhh
[2017-02-05 05:50:55] logart : now i see what you meant by woodchipper
[2017-02-05 05:50:56] logart : lol
[2017-02-05 05:51:11] BTCDJS : Yeah it's annoying
[2017-02-05 05:51:23] logart : So is a combination of both?
[2017-02-05 05:51:36] BTCDJS : 50/50
[2017-02-05 05:51:55] logart : Oh ok thank you
[2017-02-05 05:52:53] enki0182 : :bitmex: - something to watch while the shorts familiarize themselves with REKT-bot.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSTGGfRZxJc&list=PL_rV_oCr3ZZbli67hv8We6BgJJHmh_qRJ&index=20
[2017-02-05 05:54:50] enki0182 : :BitMEX:
[2017-02-05 06:14:48] BitMEX_Wally : :bitmex:
[2017-02-05 06:16:03] Farzad : BitMEX_Wally: how did u send bitmex logo ? :D
[2017-02-05 06:16:15] Farzad : :bitmex: doesnt work anymore
[2017-02-05 06:16:27] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah I wonder if Sam turned it off for non-employees
[2017-02-05 06:16:51] BitMEX_Wally : :shirt:
[2017-02-05 06:16:56] BitMEX_Wally : :shipit:
[2017-02-05 06:16:59] Farzad : :shirt:
[2017-02-05 06:17:10] BitMEX_Wally : Try `:ship it:` without the space
[2017-02-05 06:17:19] Farzad : :shipit:
[2017-02-05 06:17:24] Farzad : cool :D
[2017-02-05 06:17:45] bartram : :shipit:
[2017-02-05 06:17:56] BitMEX_Wally : Yeah, the :bitmex: icon is reserved for employees now
[2017-02-05 06:18:20] BitMEX_Wally : You can do `:btc:`
[2017-02-05 06:18:24] BitMEX_Wally : `:bt c:`
[2017-02-05 06:18:30] Farzad : :btc:
[2017-02-05 06:18:39] enki0182 : BitMEX_Wally: tell Sam to also adjust the RacialSensitivityBot.... someone used "Niqqa" today... just fyi... keep up the great work - love the exchange.
[2017-02-05 06:19:06] BitMEX_Wally : Niqqa is that some Islamic headdress?
[2017-02-05 06:19:33] BitMEX_Wally : That's the niqāb
[2017-02-05 06:19:34] enki0182 : rofl
[2017-02-05 06:19:47] Farzad : lol
[2017-02-05 06:19:51] enki0182 : nah - he said "Niqqa Plz"
[2017-02-05 06:20:03] Farzad : he means nigge* I guess
[2017-02-05 06:20:13] BitMEX_Wally : And he meant to say "CEO, please"?
[2017-02-05 06:20:17] BitMEX_Wally : I'll see what I can do
[2017-02-05 06:20:34] Farzad : people will find a way to say what they want. lol
[2017-02-05 06:20:59] enki0182 : BitMEX_Wally: you guys are awesome - i hope your exchange continues to propel forward.
[2017-02-05 06:20:59] Farzad : BitMEX_Wally: is REKT bot making a profit ?
[2017-02-05 06:21:16] BitMEX_Wally : REKT bot is just a chat bot
[2017-02-05 06:21:31] enki0182 : REKT is "eating shorts" as Bart Simpson would say.
[2017-02-05 06:21:36] Farzad : BitMEX_Wally: u mean he doesnt do trades ?!
[2017-02-05 06:21:41] BitMEX_Wally : Any remaining equity from liquidations goes into the insurance fund: https://www.bitmex.com/app/insuranceFund
[2017-02-05 06:21:55] BitMEX_Wally : The REKT bot just listens to our liquidation feed and publishes it to the trollbox
[2017-02-05 06:22:20] Farzad : oh I see ! lol
[2017-02-05 06:22:24] Farzad : it makes sense now
[2017-02-05 06:22:33] Farzad : REKT. rofl
[2017-02-05 06:23:15] enki0182 : to 1080 it is...
[2017-02-05 06:28:22] MikeHunt : 1080 then crash apparently
[2017-02-05 06:40:34] startChat : :shipit:
[2017-02-05 06:46:05] enki0182 : MikeHunt: Quite maybe
[2017-02-05 06:46:13] enki0182 : /likely
[2017-02-05 06:48:51] micmix : BitMEX_Wally: Hi Wally! Any ETA on XBT index update?
[2017-02-05 06:50:54] alejandromasari : :btc:
[2017-02-05 06:51:36] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: are you an employee?
[2017-02-05 06:53:17] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: of bitmex?
[2017-02-05 06:53:49] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: yes
[2017-02-05 06:54:20] micmix : alejandromasari: all bitmex employees have bitmex logo in front of their name, looks at BitMEX_Wally above
[2017-02-05 06:54:26] Ugly_Old_Goat : BitMEX_Wally: So rekt is just a report on forced liquidations?
[2017-02-05 06:55:17] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: no lol
[2017-02-05 06:55:20] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: I thought you were an employee you are here 24/7 as much as the rekt bot lol
[2017-02-05 06:55:35] micmix : yes, REKT just reports all liquidations in realtime
[2017-02-05 06:56:03] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: bitmex addict ;)
[2017-02-05 06:56:03] Ugly_Old_Goat : I was wondering why he was so proud of being such a poor trader
[2017-02-05 06:56:08] micmix : but it has some delusions of grandeur :-)
[2017-02-05 06:56:48] Ugly_Old_Goat : Has anyone tracked the potential profit for fading him?
[2017-02-05 06:56:49] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: I guess bitmex is your full time job lol
[2017-02-05 06:57:07] REKT : micmix: Delusions??? Who are you calling delusional! I will REKT you to the ground!
[2017-02-05 06:57:19] rapidgains : shit just got real
[2017-02-05 06:57:50] REKT : micmix: You better quit now!!!
[2017-02-05 06:58:07] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: i made a really dump trade and now just watching and hoping market goes down
[2017-02-05 06:58:13] MikeHunt : dumb*
[2017-02-05 06:58:30] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: did u short?
[2017-02-05 06:58:45] rapidgains : rekt bot rekts people mentally and financially
[2017-02-05 06:58:48] rapidgains : a true savage
[2017-02-05 06:58:58] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: yes
[2017-02-05 06:59:32] alejandromasari : MikeHunt: where do you think it will drop to?
[2017-02-05 07:00:00] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: well the short was initially in profit around 869, i left it and then bitcoin exploded upwards
[2017-02-05 07:01:15] rangle : so many bot on buy side atm
[2017-02-05 07:02:25] REKT : rapidgains: It's nice to see someone who appreciates all hard work that I do!
[2017-02-05 07:03:04] MikeHunt : alejandromasari: various indicators suggests its overbought so im hoping it goes down a bit so i can kill the short but at a lower loss
[2017-02-05 07:04:25] enki0182 : MikeHunt: sorry mike - we gotta go higher before we go lower
[2017-02-05 07:04:41] enki0182 : too many bulls
[2017-02-05 07:05:49] MikeHunt : enki0182: yeh im just debating whether to sell some more to pad the liq target up a bit more
[2017-02-05 07:15:19] LocoPoco Chatocho : Good morning everyone
[2017-02-05 07:19:56] startChat : anyone have a trezor?
[2017-02-05 07:20:00] LocoPoco Chatocho : Bitcoin to 1 million dollar per coin today! It can be done! Just tell your friends, co-workers, family and other people you know! Tell them about crypto and how great it is! Tell them to mortage their house or use their credit cards! Show them bitmex! Be a good and smart person!
[2017-02-05 07:20:37] Tetsuo : What´s so great about Bitkorn?
[2017-02-05 07:20:45] LocoPoco Chatocho : Its magic internet money
[2017-02-05 07:21:15] rapidgains : Tetsuo: cures cancer
[2017-02-05 07:21:55] Kalman : yes, cancer in teh financial system ;)
[2017-02-05 07:22:52] LocoPoco Chatocho : Everyone lets go 100x long together :D
[2017-02-05 07:23:05] LocoPoco Chatocho : If we all do it together then we wont feel sad if it fail
[2017-02-05 07:23:08] LocoPoco Chatocho : but it wont, im 99% sure
[2017-02-05 07:24:51] MikeHunt : pboc is waiting with the finger on the trigger
[2017-02-05 07:29:31] BTCDJS : Poco niqqa you loco!
[2017-02-05 07:29:36] Kalman : LocoPoco Chatocho: you are 99% sure, wow!!
[2017-02-05 07:30:28] rapidgains : no money back guarantee!
[2017-02-05 07:31:16] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: Think we must go up more before a break, next stop 1080 then contract highs. Now that will be interesting.. Any break here will be bot. A flash sell to low 900 would be great. I have orders there but do not expect them to get hit
[2017-02-05 07:32:44] Ugly_Old_Goat : If your short perp you can buy March a pick up a bit
[2017-02-05 07:33:07] MikeHunt : i shorted at 870
[2017-02-05 07:33:10] MikeHunt : thats how retarded i am
[2017-02-05 07:33:14] MikeHunt : my liq is 1080
[2017-02-05 07:33:20] MikeHunt : :/
[2017-02-05 07:33:44] MikeHunt : im hoping for a bounce off the ichi cloud, ill take a hit but well deserved i guess
[2017-02-05 07:34:44] shery : MikeHunt: you are screwed bro, it wont go below 980
[2017-02-05 07:35:25] rapidgains : time to pump to 1081 and dump to 870
[2017-02-05 07:35:35] rapidgains : just for mikehunt
[2017-02-05 07:36:21] Ugly_Old_Goat : Way to much risk for my taste. I bot at 870 on way down and doubled down at 735 with a blowout at 685, Fortunately I pick the bottom . Started to lightly sell at 950 up to 990 perp agains my March. But I also liqudated all my spec longs at 1140+ on Januayr 4.
[2017-02-05 07:37:23] MikeHunt : shery: even 980 at this point would be better than 1034
[2017-02-05 07:38:28] Ugly_Old_Goat : If we test the highs we should be volatile but if is holds the days of 3 digit btc is likely gone forever. The highs will become the new floor.
[2017-02-05 07:38:29] shery : MikeHunt: Best of luck for today I am expecting 980-1000 before 1080 which is only possible today since itsa a hokiday, chinese love correcting on holidays but 1080+ in next week is confirmed
[2017-02-05 07:38:42] shery : holiday*
[2017-02-05 07:38:52] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: But if you got it would you take it?
[2017-02-05 07:39:39] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: yeh