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[2017-02-04 04:06:07] sleger : all on red ?
[2017-02-04 04:06:09] mark121 : and in all honesty
[2017-02-04 04:06:25] sleger : double down when you were half way in the red
[2017-02-04 04:06:37] sleger : and cash out at 2x ? lol <= my turn
[2017-02-04 04:06:40] mark121 : I actually work at a fund, and somehow I doubt you've more than 2 years tops
[2017-02-04 04:07:00] sleger : i run a portfolio of HFT dummy
[2017-02-04 04:07:35] mark121 : ya, i hear buffet spends his spare time being overly argumentative in a trollbox just like this one
[2017-02-04 04:07:41] LocoPoco Chatocho : Im living on under a bridge on welfare and food stamps! All i have is my old samsung from 2014 to trade on and hope for a better life someday
[2017-02-04 04:07:47] mark121 : hahah
[2017-02-04 04:07:50] sleger : i didnt say i had 10+bn
[2017-02-04 04:07:56] rapidgains : lol
[2017-02-04 04:08:49] micmix : LocoPoco Chatocho: true trolls leave on bridge tolls, not on foodstamps :smile:
[2017-02-04 04:09:15] micmix : *live, stupid autocorrect
[2017-02-04 04:09:48] LocoPoco Chatocho : I just need BTC to go to 1200 again so i can enjoy atleast ONE hot meal in my cold and sorry life!
[2017-02-04 04:09:50] LocoPoco Chatocho : i need new shoes too
[2017-02-04 04:10:33] mark121 : Crypto is actually great to learn TA
[2017-02-04 04:10:35] mark121 : and btw
[2017-02-04 04:10:46] sleger : if learning =losing
[2017-02-04 04:10:48] sleger : i agre
[2017-02-04 04:10:48] LocoPoco Chatocho : True that
[2017-02-04 04:10:50] sleger : *agree
[2017-02-04 04:10:51] mark121 : for most its a passion as much as it is worek
[2017-02-04 04:11:00] mark121 : well
[2017-02-04 04:11:03] LocoPoco Chatocho : Nothing makes things sit in your brainstem like wiping your portfolio a couple of times
[2017-02-04 04:11:08] sleger : its not work for anyone serious
[2017-02-04 04:11:12] LocoPoco Chatocho : then maybe.. if you are lucky.. you start stop doing that
[2017-02-04 04:11:16] mark121 : not for u sleger
[2017-02-04 04:11:20] mark121 : u suck at it
[2017-02-04 04:11:23] mark121 : obviously :p
[2017-02-04 04:11:24] mark121 : lol
[2017-02-04 04:11:29] sleger : unless for ITs in a fund that thing they can learn and move on to trading
[2017-02-04 04:11:31] mark121 : plus, its such a umbrella term
[2017-02-04 04:11:42] mark121 : it all is crap? lol
[2017-02-04 04:11:52] sleger : mark121: how do I "obviously" suck at it ? what makes you say that ?
[2017-02-04 04:12:02] mark121 : because of your comments
[2017-02-04 04:12:06] sleger : ?
[2017-02-04 04:12:14] mark121 : Let me tell u exactly
[2017-02-04 04:12:15] mark121 : sec
[2017-02-04 04:12:35] mark121 : "[23:01] sleger: it s a tool to make you believe you have a chance but you dont"
[2017-02-04 04:12:46] sleger : well i was wrong
[2017-02-04 04:12:53] sleger : you have half a chance, precisely
[2017-02-04 04:12:59] sleger : 50% - fees
[2017-02-04 04:13:15] micmix : - spread
[2017-02-04 04:13:17] -_- : eth cant stop, wont stop
[2017-02-04 04:13:21] micmix : -spread
[2017-02-04 04:13:24] sleger : micmix: maybe you can make
[2017-02-04 04:13:37] mark121 : im not sure what to tell ya
[2017-02-04 04:13:38] sleger : and assuming no market impact from the other 100 idiots copying the same stupid idea
[2017-02-04 04:13:42] mark121 : the other way of saying that
[2017-02-04 04:13:44] micmix : I mean 50%-fees-spread-exec cost
[2017-02-04 04:13:58] sleger : mark121: well you've been here for 1 hour, we have for much longer
[2017-02-04 04:14:04] mark121 : "when I (you) use TA, i have half a chance"
[2017-02-04 04:14:07] sleger : I run a large HFT book
[2017-02-04 04:14:08] LocoPoco Chatocho : wtf ETH
[2017-02-04 04:14:14] mark121 : what does being here
[2017-02-04 04:14:17] LocoPoco Chatocho : looks like its dying to me :p
[2017-02-04 04:14:18] mark121 : have to do with anything lol
[2017-02-04 04:14:27] mark121 : we jus chattin
[2017-02-04 04:14:34] sleger : mark121: we've seen 100s of like you come and go (rekt) after days
[2017-02-04 04:14:42] sleger : preaching TA...
[2017-02-04 04:14:46] sleger : and rekt
[2017-02-04 04:14:50] mark121 : well, ive been trading for a year on crypto
[2017-02-04 04:14:53] mark121 : and never been rekt
[2017-02-04 04:14:59] mark121 : i bought BTC at 7
[2017-02-04 04:15:02] sleger : you came to the right place
[2017-02-04 04:15:03] mark121 : but i didnt margin trade
[2017-02-04 04:15:09] sleger : oh one year, and you bought at 7
[2017-02-04 04:15:10] sleger : LOL
[2017-02-04 04:15:13] sleger : MEGALOL
[2017-02-04 04:15:13] mark121 : ..
[2017-02-04 04:15:19] mark121 : two seperate things
[2017-02-04 04:15:25] sleger : "mark121: well, ive been trading for a year on crypto and never been rekt i bought BTC at 7"
[2017-02-04 04:15:35] mark121 : meaning, I bought at 7.. so i knew of btc since whenever 2013-2014 whenever that was
[2017-02-04 04:15:36] sleger : btc was at 7 a year ago, nice
[2017-02-04 04:15:40] mark121 : and ive owned it
[2017-02-04 04:15:44] LocoPoco Chatocho : I sold my world of warcraft legendary staff for 23000 bitcoins in 2010
[2017-02-04 04:15:45] sleger : LOL
[2017-02-04 04:15:48] mark121 : but i didnt margin trade until the last year
[2017-02-04 04:15:52] mark121 : anyhow
[2017-02-04 04:15:56] mark121 : lol u r strange
[2017-02-04 04:15:59] sleger : mark121: ok you screwed up now, you just admitted of big BS
[2017-02-04 04:16:04] mark121 : not even close
[2017-02-04 04:16:09] mark121 : u misunderstood
[2017-02-04 04:16:11] sleger : mark121: check when BTCUSD was at 7
[2017-02-04 04:16:15] mark121 : ease off the ADD meds
[2017-02-04 04:16:24] sleger : check when BTCUSD was at 7
[2017-02-04 04:16:25] mark121 : i dont need to lol
[2017-02-04 04:16:29] sleger : do it
[2017-02-04 04:16:29] mark121 : i ran a business using BTC
[2017-02-04 04:16:41] mark121 : u can fill in the blanks :)
[2017-02-04 04:17:07] mark121 : side business but anyhow, point being not rekt and not going to be
[2017-02-04 04:17:21] longbydefault : mark karpeles?
[2017-02-04 04:17:23] sleger : "mark121: meaning, I bought at 7.. so i knew of btc since whenever 2013-2014 whenever that was"
[2017-02-04 04:17:30] mark121 : ?
[2017-02-04 04:17:34] mark121 : are u still confused
[2017-02-04 04:17:37] mark121 : let me reiterate
[2017-02-04 04:17:40] mark121 : again..
[2017-02-04 04:18:16] mark121 : I was merely expressing my 1 year of margin trading vs my several years of owning real coin
[2017-02-04 04:18:29] mark121 : nothin to lose ur shit over
[2017-02-04 04:18:29] mark121 : lol
[2017-02-04 04:18:35] sleger : mark121: btc wasnt at 7 in 2013-2014
[2017-02-04 04:18:36] longbydefault : just tell us your positions...
[2017-02-04 04:18:37] sleger : FYI
[2017-02-04 04:18:44] longbydefault : we will see who's correct
[2017-02-04 04:18:45] mark121 : u tell me
[2017-02-04 04:18:53] rapidgains : longbydefault: lol
[2017-02-04 04:18:56] mark121 : i kno the price when i bought and sold it
[2017-02-04 04:18:57] sleger : july 2012 dummy
[2017-02-04 04:19:21] sleger : but you're a joke
[2017-02-04 04:19:28] mark121 : Im sorry
[2017-02-04 04:19:32] mark121 : are u upset
[2017-02-04 04:19:40] mark121 : cause i callled you on your TA sentiment
[2017-02-04 04:19:49] mark121 : theres no hard feelings
[2017-02-04 04:19:57] longbydefault : to each his own
[2017-02-04 04:20:16] longbydefault : love one another
[2017-02-04 04:20:19] sleger : hopefully he's not rekt tomorrow so we can chat more
[2017-02-04 04:20:25] mark121 : lol
[2017-02-04 04:20:42] longbydefault : i think you are both experienced... you'll get to know each other in the coming months
[2017-02-04 04:20:45] LocoPoco Chatocho : Finex 1012 :D
[2017-02-04 04:20:55] LocoPoco Chatocho : bitstamp i mean
[2017-02-04 04:21:09] LocoPoco Chatocho : dont close yer long yet :)
[2017-02-04 04:21:22] longbydefault : where's papou by the way?
[2017-02-04 04:21:36] mark121 : lol
[2017-02-04 04:21:44] rapidgains : on the streets
[2017-02-04 04:21:51] mark121 : any TV users from crypto channel on here
[2017-02-04 04:22:01] longbydefault : i like the god.pdf file sent earlier
[2017-02-04 04:23:01] longbydefault : who wrote that file?
[2017-02-04 04:23:26] rapidgains : dogecoin fanboy
[2017-02-04 04:23:42] longbydefault : you believe that's what is happening to bitcoin now?
[2017-02-04 04:25:48] mark121 : goodluck fellas :> keep it real
[2017-02-04 04:29:50] rapidgains : always
[2017-02-04 04:31:45] LocoPoco Chatocho : sells walls are fake af
[2017-02-04 04:32:06] LocoPoco Chatocho : trying to scare weak hands :P
[2017-02-04 04:41:11] MikeHunt : link to god pdf?
[2017-02-04 04:41:40] MikeHunt : nvm got it from arc
[2017-02-04 05:06:47] -_- : i posted it above
[2017-02-04 05:06:52] -_- : the legend wolong
[2017-02-04 05:07:01] longbydefault : https://cryptofrenzy.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/god.pdf
[2017-02-04 05:07:07] -_- : anyways btc pumps. eth pumps. etc pumps. xmr pumps. and i'll be back
[2017-02-04 05:09:53] longbydefault : so where are we at right now?
[2017-02-04 05:09:56] longbydefault : -_-?
[2017-02-04 05:10:10] longbydefault : are we dumping now... or still in accumulation?
[2017-02-04 05:12:21] enki0182 : i just dumped
[2017-02-04 05:12:29] enki0182 : the market didnt go anywhere while i was away
[2017-02-04 05:12:50] enki0182 : now back to trading... where was i?
[2017-02-04 05:21:27] longbydefault : enter at 1010... stop loss at 1005... 10x leverage... take profit @ 1020
[2017-02-04 05:31:35] paper : good luck. i hate tight stops tho
[2017-02-04 05:33:09] longbydefault : thanks
[2017-02-04 05:40:31] bartram : $5 to stop seems too tight
[2017-02-04 05:42:12] longbydefault : i think there is support... its a 5% loss... vs 10% return...
[2017-02-04 05:45:08] paper : my stops have me in profit but my current bet is that we go 1500ish before going 987ish
[2017-02-04 05:45:44] paper : initial target subject to being moved up ofc
[2017-02-04 05:45:52] paper : have to view price action
[2017-02-04 05:46:33] bartram : wow, 1500ish
[2017-02-04 05:46:44] longbydefault : paper... when is 1500ish?
[2017-02-04 05:46:59] longbydefault : 30-60 days?
[2017-02-04 05:47:30] bartram : that will be hudge surprise...
[2017-02-04 05:47:34] paper : good question. could be this month in pre-etf rally, among other reasons mentioned here for example https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-price-2000-is-just-starter-unless-compromise-is-reached
[2017-02-04 05:48:28] longbydefault : cliffbot says that too... that AI prediction robot... 1500 by feb
[2017-02-04 05:48:43] paper : damn
[2017-02-04 05:50:44] rapidgains : huobi hoobin
[2017-02-04 05:51:15] laisee : dem bots r smart ... which one will be a Billionaire with Bitcoin?
[2017-02-04 05:51:21] paper : oh and for the record i'm not predicting a retracement to sub 1k from 1500ish. i can see how it would be understood that way tho
[2017-02-04 05:51:55] paper : 3 feb 2017 could well be the end of sub 1k
[2017-02-04 05:53:00] rapidgains : huobi 7k
[2017-02-04 05:53:01] rapidgains : rekt
[2017-02-04 05:54:05] paper : rapidgains: which site are you viewing houbi with?
[2017-02-04 05:54:25] rapidgains : https://cryptowat.ch/huobi/btccny
[2017-02-04 05:54:41] rapidgains : they dumped first
[2017-02-04 05:55:09] paper : thx. they didn't have one of the big three exchanges (at one point anyway) and i thought it might be houbi
[2017-02-04 05:55:30] paper : i'll use your link for now i guess
[2017-02-04 05:56:22] MikeHunt : ichi suggests we go down
[2017-02-04 05:59:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 1000 @ 996.54
[2017-02-04 05:59:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 113768 @ 995.44 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-02-04 05:59:47] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2787 @ 1006.54
[2017-02-04 05:59:47] micmix : laisee: REKT is already multi-millionaire ;-)
[2017-02-04 06:00:08] laisee : REKT == Satoshi
[2017-02-04 06:00:39] micmix : REKT > Satoshi
[2017-02-04 06:00:49] MikeHunt : most beautiful triple top on finex
[2017-02-04 06:01:00] rapidgains : rip okcoin
[2017-02-04 06:01:04] micmix : REKT > Satoshi + Vitalik ;-)
[2017-02-04 06:01:13] laisee : micmix: prolly right. Satoshi eas no trader ...
[2017-02-04 06:02:04] paper : going down would only give us an inverted h&s
[2017-02-04 06:02:17] rapidgains : ?
[2017-02-04 06:02:18] paper : or higher lows, depending on the chart
[2017-02-04 06:02:49] rapidgains : chart?
[2017-02-04 06:03:04] MikeHunt : drop to 6700-6800s or retest of 5k trend line
[2017-02-04 06:03:14] rapidgains : finex and stamp are so lame
[2017-02-04 06:03:24] MikeHunt : ~5300-5500
[2017-02-04 06:03:40] paper : sideways then up, basically
[2017-02-04 06:03:54] micmix : “We have prepared $100 million USD to kill the small fork of CoreCoin, no matter what POW algorithm, sha256 or scrypt or X11 or any other GPU algorithm. Show me your money. We very much welcome a CoreCoin change to POS.”
[2017-02-04 06:04:09] laisee : dems fightin' words ...
[2017-02-04 06:04:24] micmix : source: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-market-needs-big-blocks-says-founder-btc-top-mining-pool/
[2017-02-04 06:05:12] micmix : sell now, buy back core coin for $100 ;-)
[2017-02-04 06:05:31] laisee : Sell CoreCoin or Bitcoin?
[2017-02-04 06:05:40] laisee : I sold ETC
[2017-02-04 06:06:14] micmix : sell bitcoin, buy corecoin I guess
[2017-02-04 06:07:19] laisee : time to ask Bitmex if they will offer market on BTC/CoreCoin spread
[2017-02-04 06:07:34] paper : http://bravenewcoin.com/news/bitcoin-price-analysis-bullish-signals-stacking-up/
[2017-02-04 06:08:50] MikeHunt : what i can see 800s is still possible
[2017-02-04 06:08:59] MikeHunt : then climb upwards to form the ascending triangle
[2017-02-04 06:09:42] YOLOCOIN : THIS DUMP WILL SMASH
[2017-02-04 06:10:11] MikeHunt : that's unless teacup was a lie and whales are going to eat everyone
[2017-02-04 06:11:12] laisee : MikeHunt: do all TA traders talk in riddles?
[2017-02-04 06:11:25] rapidgains : we moved like $5 lmao
[2017-02-04 06:11:32] paper : going into the 900's would be a gift
[2017-02-04 06:12:19] MikeHunt : laisee: yeh this was my tutor... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7PETX-0L9g
[2017-02-04 06:14:05] paper : i basically view the upper 900's-low 1000's as "taking a breather before continuation"
[2017-02-04 06:14:21] paper : i.e. trading sideways
[2017-02-04 06:27:20] paper : longbydefault: did you stop out of your trade at 1005?
[2017-02-04 06:28:02] paper : the trade you opened at 1010 :)
[2017-02-04 06:29:51] longbydefault : yes
[2017-02-04 06:29:53] longbydefault : i lost 5%
[2017-02-04 06:30:23] grimm : I'm only showing us getting down to 1005.23. Shouldn't it have not triggered?
[2017-02-04 06:30:31] Ugly_Old_Goat : Can't figure out why there are still die hard bears paying to stay short getting raped up the ass
[2017-02-04 06:31:16] Ugly_Old_Goat : 'We may go to 500 but we have to go to 950 before we get there
[2017-02-04 06:32:23] Ugly_Old_Goat : 800s is possible but i will be adding to my long above 900
[2017-02-04 06:32:24] paper : i may live to be 100 but i'll probably need to be 80 or or 90 before i get there
[2017-02-04 06:34:40] paper : my ego wants to be able to say i bought hard on the final trip to sub 1k while others were freaking out
[2017-02-04 06:34:41] Ugly_Old_Goat : Frankly I think the 735 will never be seen again. And would not be surprised if spot never cracks 1000 again
[2017-02-04 06:35:46] Ugly_Old_Goat : A consolidatin here could lead to an explosive upmove The ;5 swings between bid and ask
[2017-02-04 06:36:41] paper : it's mind-numbingly boring, but yeah, treading water here is for the best
[2017-02-04 06:37:02] Ugly_Old_Goat : This article http://bravenewcoin.com/news/bitcoin-price-analysis-bullish-signals-stacking-up/ indicates if you are not already long it is tough getting long
[2017-02-04 06:38:23] Ugly_Old_Goat : We cleaned whiistles of buyers over 1000 the first time. Doubt it will happen this time. March future here is still the best buy anywhere
[2017-02-04 06:44:03] micmix : okc quarterly is cheaper. and it's still in backwardation, 3+ weeks now
[2017-02-04 06:44:35] micmix : no buyers with money
[2017-02-04 06:55:16] laisee : free money @ okc qrterly?
[2017-02-04 06:55:25] laisee : seems dirt cheep
[2017-02-04 06:59:48] rapidgains : all the exchanges are so disconected
[2017-02-04 06:59:49] rapidgains : lmao
[2017-02-04 07:01:03] micmix : laisee: free except possible social losses and counterparty risk
[2017-02-04 07:01:44] Ugly_Old_Goat : laisee: agreed, but defeinite counterparry risk
[2017-02-04 07:01:53] laisee : add a spponful of regulatory risk and currency exposure?
[2017-02-04 07:02:18] enki0182 : im waiting for bearwhale to finish playing
[2017-02-04 07:02:30] Ugly_Old_Goat : March here is great price and exchange is solid
[2017-02-04 07:02:57] laisee : +1 on what UOG said
[2017-02-04 07:03:11] Ugly_Old_Goat : I think we just saw the last opprtunigy to get some under 1000
[2017-02-04 07:03:37] laisee : take away the volumes and leverage and china trading is not so attractive ...
[2017-02-04 07:05:31] Ugly_Old_Goat : The next pop up March should go to premium and stay there
[2017-02-04 07:14:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 4070 @ 1012.79
[2017-02-04 07:15:03] Ugly_Old_Goat : All systems go. Small head fake uptrend resumes
[2017-02-04 07:15:38] Ugly_Old_Goat : Possible fireworks show tonight
[2017-02-04 07:16:30] Ugly_Old_Goat : Should be lots of final holdout blowouts aboe 940
[2017-02-04 07:16:40] Ugly_Old_Goat : I mean 1040
[2017-02-04 07:17:14] Ugly_Old_Goat : Actually about 1030
[2017-02-04 07:21:51] paper : does blowout mean short squeeze?
[2017-02-04 07:25:41] Ahhere : Ah funding nice!
[2017-02-04 07:41:21] Ahhere : I see finex didnt drop under 1k on last dip. We went a bit low here
[2017-02-04 07:42:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 9000 @ 1014.47
[2017-02-04 07:46:52] guacamole : okc orderbook looks kinda weird, like 900 btc buy orders split into chunks of 97 btc each
[2017-02-04 07:47:09] guacamole : all within a pretty narrow range
[2017-02-04 07:49:11] YOLOCOIN : Illiquid and manipulated market
[2017-02-04 07:50:05] guacamole : yeah seems to be more orderbook depth on bitfinex these days, though maybe not more than all 3 big chinese exchanges combined
[2017-02-04 07:52:40] lodek1 : no action tonight
[2017-02-04 07:52:56] lodek1 : last night was better
[2017-02-04 07:53:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 103000 @ 1015.19 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-02-04 07:53:42] REKT : Getting chopped to death is fun, everyone should try it!
[2017-02-04 07:54:15] lodek1 : hehe
[2017-02-04 07:56:20] lodek1 : and here comes the DROP!!
[2017-02-04 07:57:30] jigsaw : up to 1020
[2017-02-04 07:59:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 3500 @ 1016.40
[2017-02-04 08:00:00] lodek1 : looking at the chart seems like last night it was climbing to 1020 and than dropped instantly to 999 at around this time
[2017-02-04 08:00:35] jigsaw : the past is the past
[2017-02-04 08:00:50] jigsaw : technical analysis is BS
[2017-02-04 08:00:56] lodek1 : yeaaaaa
[2017-02-04 08:02:15] lodek1 : im sticking around till 4am not giving up
[2017-02-04 08:03:13] jedisatoshi : whats not bs is everyone and their mom is long... a flash crash to trigger stops is not unreasonable
[2017-02-04 08:04:35] jigsaw : stops are either way
[2017-02-04 08:05:37] lodek1 : who was online at around this time last night?
[2017-02-04 08:06:37] jedisatoshi : just more of them on the long side so if they are hit price will drop further and smart money has limit buys right below to catch them.. Im thinking a shakeout is due soon before moon
[2017-02-04 08:06:41] lodek1 : anyone saw huge numbers being sold every 30 sec? after that it crashed to 999
[2017-02-04 08:08:17] lodek1 : from 1018
[2017-02-04 08:08:42] jedisatoshi : lodek1: I saw it
[2017-02-04 08:09:16] lodek1 : thac when i bought and sold out at 1014
[2017-02-04 08:09:25] jedisatoshi : nice
[2017-02-04 08:09:44] lodek1 : :)
[2017-02-04 08:10:01] lodek1 : but was dead at work today 3 hours of sleep
[2017-02-04 08:10:07] lodek1 : this thing is adictive
[2017-02-04 08:10:34] neox : yes, it really is
[2017-02-04 08:10:42] jedisatoshi : Im hedged right now for a pullback. if we break 1025 ill take the loss and and get back long
[2017-02-04 08:11:09] lodek1 : im waiting to 1001 at least
[2017-02-04 08:11:29] lodek1 : than buy and hope for the best
[2017-02-04 08:11:55] jedisatoshi : my limits are around 980-950
[2017-02-04 08:12:36] lodek1 : so was mine today but it doesn't look like it anymore
[2017-02-04 08:12:42] jedisatoshi : a healthy pull back would be good... and i see a triple top. long term bullish ag
[2017-02-04 08:12:45] jedisatoshi : AF
[2017-02-04 08:13:07] lodek1 : i set up auto buy at 980 last night lol
[2017-02-04 08:13:17] neox : haha me too :D
[2017-02-04 08:13:31] lodek1 : it got close to thou
[2017-02-04 08:13:42] jedisatoshi : damn just missed it!
[2017-02-04 08:15:50] lodek1 : it got to 995 at 7am
[2017-02-04 08:17:56] lodek1 : chart looks red
[2017-02-04 08:19:39] amirmass : dumpppppppp
[2017-02-04 08:19:43] amirmass : itttttt'
[2017-02-04 08:20:37] neox : NOT
[2017-02-04 08:20:49] jedisatoshi : lol
[2017-02-04 08:21:02] neox : o.O
[2017-02-04 08:21:02] lodek1 : china needs to release a new product lol
[2017-02-04 08:21:52] amirmass : 900 coming
[2017-02-04 08:21:59] amirmass : massive dumps
[2017-02-04 08:22:00] lodek1 : i feel it to
[2017-02-04 08:22:01] neox : in your wet dreams
[2017-02-04 08:22:14] lodek1 : wait and see
[2017-02-04 08:22:21] neox : I will ^^
[2017-02-04 08:22:48] jedisatoshi : Im long 90% of the time but this time im hoping for a dump.. nothing major tho just a shakeout otw to the moon
[2017-02-04 08:23:10] lodek1 : last night we had 2
[2017-02-04 08:23:36] lodek1 : but FUCCCKKKK didnt buy first time
[2017-02-04 08:23:40] jedisatoshi : I know and i was on the wrong side of those
[2017-02-04 08:23:47] lodek1 : hahahaha
[2017-02-04 08:24:06] lodek1 : i thought it was a scam to guy and loose cuz it came sudden
[2017-02-04 08:24:14] lodek1 : buy*
[2017-02-04 08:24:35] neox : last night I was sleeping because I had too less sleep the last week :(
[2017-02-04 08:24:43] stevenmst : if the giant 3yr handle is actually forming,4500cny isnt out of the question
[2017-02-04 08:24:46] lodek1 : anyone traded from an iphone?
[2017-02-04 08:24:54] jedisatoshi : well best of luck fellas i set my alerts time for my daily nap
[2017-02-04 08:25:07] lodek1 : take care bud
[2017-02-04 08:25:09] stevenmst : 3 year cup's handle*
[2017-02-04 08:26:47] lodek1 : neox: this thing kept me up till 4 am hehe
[2017-02-04 08:27:20] lodek1 : 7 am 3 red bulls and you feel like new
[2017-02-04 08:27:50] jigsaw : bulls are green
[2017-02-04 08:28:25] lodek1 : green is my fav color now
[2017-02-04 08:28:31] amirmass : bad news for btc
[2017-02-04 08:28:42] amirmass : the dump gonna be epiccccccccc
[2017-02-04 08:28:54] lodek1 : 600?
[2017-02-04 08:29:18] neox : you made those news?
[2017-02-04 08:29:44] Derreck : i guess we're stuck here between 1000-1050 for a while now. Then breakout to the ATH
[2017-02-04 08:30:05] lodek1 : no, just remember the numbers from the past
[2017-02-04 08:30:58] amirmass : 1009
[2017-02-04 08:31:01] amirmass : on stamp
[2017-02-04 08:31:02] amirmass : rekttttttttt
[2017-02-04 08:33:13] Derreck : OKcoin top #3 $BTCUSD contract holder has increased their position by 1729 contracts
[2017-02-04 08:34:33] lodek1 : February 1st 2017 -- 963
[2017-02-04 08:34:41] BTCDJS : Derreck: that could mean he increased s short
[2017-02-04 08:34:49] enki0182 : Derreck: you understand whats going on also - dont you derrick ; )
[2017-02-04 08:35:30] amirmass : stamppppppp dump
[2017-02-04 08:35:33] amirmass : 10007
[2017-02-04 08:35:38] amirmass : 1004
[2017-02-04 08:35:50] amirmass : sellllll
[2017-02-04 08:36:04] stevenmst : china dgaf
[2017-02-04 08:36:20] lodek1 : going down
[2017-02-04 08:37:02] amirmass : down to shit
[2017-02-04 08:37:31] lodek1 : thac what im waiting for
[2017-02-04 08:38:18] lodek1 : sold out at 1014 and waiting for landslide
[2017-02-04 08:38:35] paper : you buy "dumps," not sell them. you're doing it wrong
[2017-02-04 08:38:46] enki0182 : paper: +1
[2017-02-04 08:38:49] lodek1 : im alking about last night
[2017-02-04 08:38:55] lodek1 : when bought for 995
[2017-02-04 08:39:40] lodek1 : talking*
[2017-02-04 08:40:39] amirmass : dumping on stamp
[2017-02-04 08:40:39] amirmass : 1009
[2017-02-04 08:40:41] amirmass : selllll
[2017-02-04 08:40:49] amirmass : bitmex should be the same
[2017-02-04 08:40:51] amirmass : 1008
[2017-02-04 08:42:23] amirmass : 1007
[2017-02-04 08:44:38] enki0182 : woodchipper places buy wall... then people dump into the buy wall because the same owner of the buy wall on woodchipper dumps heavy on lower volume exchanges like stamp, and finex, in order to increase their position on okcoin. buying at x price now because they know what is to come in the future...
[2017-02-04 08:45:18] enki0182 : lodek1: thats what happened last night too.
[2017-02-04 08:45:37] lodek1 : SELLLLL
[2017-02-04 08:45:42] enki0182 : from 39k contracts to 52k+ contracts in less than a week....
[2017-02-04 08:46:02] enki0182 : lodek1: your being played
[2017-02-04 08:47:36] amirmass : short'
[2017-02-04 08:47:41] lodek1 : enki0182: maybe, but i got lucky and came out positive
[2017-02-04 08:47:59] enki0182 : lodek1: +1 thats what the game is about.
[2017-02-04 08:48:04] enki0182 : good move last night too
[2017-02-04 08:48:53] amirmass : 1006
[2017-02-04 08:49:01] amirmass : LOL goodbye btc
[2017-02-04 08:49:05] amirmass : it was nice
[2017-02-04 08:49:06] lodek1 : enki0182: thanks, missed the first one well my brother called and YELLED DONT BUY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[2017-02-04 08:49:14] amirmass : 300$
[2017-02-04 08:49:16] amirmass : here we come
[2017-02-04 08:49:38] lodek1 : so i didnt and an hour later it jumped +20
[2017-02-04 08:51:29] lodek1 : amirmass:hahahah
[2017-02-04 08:53:35] paper : i'd think the dumbasses who'd buy into the bearpigtroll bs would be on bread&butter exchanges, not derivatives ;)
[2017-02-04 08:56:30] amirmass : sell
[2017-02-04 08:57:27] lodek1 : i see same warning
[2017-02-04 09:01:39] amirmass : 1005
[2017-02-04 09:01:40] amirmass : !!!!!!!!!!!
[2017-02-04 09:01:47] amirmass : doooooooom
[2017-02-04 09:01:52] amirmass : 1004
[2017-02-04 09:03:19] lodek1 : still waiting for that 995
[2017-02-04 09:04:07] amirmass : 300$
[2017-02-04 09:04:12] neox : xD
[2017-02-04 09:04:13] amirmass : ded serious
[2017-02-04 09:04:45] lodek1 : haha or when bit came out first time
[2017-02-04 09:08:41] Ahhere : The bull is teasing his food
[2017-02-04 09:08:43] lodek1 : shit by brother bought it for pennies in 2009 and forgot about it 2013 comes and BOOOOMMMM 1000$$+
[2017-02-04 09:09:29] lodek1 : lucky dick
[2017-02-04 09:10:07] neox : ^^
[2017-02-04 09:10:47] Ahhere : lodek1: nice did he buy loads? If I had a time machine i would the ahherekilvoss
[2017-02-04 09:10:55] Ahhere : *be
[2017-02-04 09:11:25] lodek1 : it was about .07cents a coin
[2017-02-04 09:11:29] lodek1 : ofcourse
[2017-02-04 09:11:32] neox : :O :O
[2017-02-04 09:11:47] Ahhere : Lol he was mining then
[2017-02-04 09:11:49] neox : where's my timemachine when I need it ...
[2017-02-04 09:12:02] amirmass : rip btc
[2017-02-04 09:12:56] amirmass : short
[2017-02-04 09:13:14] amirmass : 1oo3
[2017-02-04 09:13:25] lodek1 : but funny thing he forgot where the wallet was located lol throwing monitors around for 3 days till he finally got it
[2017-02-04 09:13:25] zanza : my brother knew Satoshi
[2017-02-04 09:13:31] zanza : gave him a bunch fo free coins
[2017-02-04 09:13:49] zanza : smoked weed with him
[2017-02-04 09:14:03] neox : I'm Satoshi and I can say that it's not true!
[2017-02-04 09:14:15] lodek1 : neox: hahaha
[2017-02-04 09:14:24] neox : :D :D
[2017-02-04 09:14:41] lodek1 : fuck drop below 1000 already
[2017-02-04 09:14:50] lodek1 : FUCKKKK***
[2017-02-04 09:15:01] enki0182 : lodek1: its borderlining buy time
[2017-02-04 09:15:28] amirmass : 1004
[2017-02-04 09:15:29] lodek1 : enki0182: oh yea
[2017-02-04 09:15:32] amirmass : loooooollllll
[2017-02-04 09:15:35] amirmass : rektttttttttttttttttttttt
[2017-02-04 09:15:40] amirmass : 100$ dump coming
[2017-02-04 09:16:04] lodek1 : id loose 25k lol nooooooo
[2017-02-04 09:16:57] enki0182 : buy time
[2017-02-04 09:16:58] lodek1 : im afraid to walk away from my comp to go smoke because it can happen any min like last night
[2017-02-04 09:17:47] lodek1 : not yet
[2017-02-04 09:18:05] juchide : why is bitmex so lagging when it comes to orders?
[2017-02-04 09:19:02] enki0182 : juchide: may be the browser or device you are using.
[2017-02-04 09:19:21] enki0182 : crisp for me using google chrome on PC
[2017-02-04 09:19:23] juchide : g chrome
[2017-02-04 09:19:39] juchide : yea I'm using it
[2017-02-04 09:19:45] enki0182 : (try epic browser)....
[2017-02-04 09:19:55] juchide : thanks
[2017-02-04 09:19:57] enki0182 : google chrome bootstrap.
[2017-02-04 09:19:58] juchide : i will
[2017-02-04 09:20:13] enki0182 : (read their website too - you might like its features
[2017-02-04 09:21:41] enki0182 : lodek1: & @amirmass - so did you load up your positions with all the fear mongering you did? get any takers? : )
[2017-02-04 09:25:33] lodek1 : im up
[2017-02-04 09:26:48] enki0182 : lodek1: +1
[2017-02-04 09:30:48] lodek1 : im out its to unstable
[2017-02-04 09:41:44] Ugly_Old_Goat : Good read https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrKU0Ymta-U
[2017-02-04 09:54:21] qntoine : hey guys
[2017-02-04 09:54:34] qntoine : I have a very dumb question
[2017-02-04 09:54:48] lodek1 : bad timing lol
[2017-02-04 09:55:02] lodek1 : whats up
[2017-02-04 09:55:14] qntoine : it's a very simple strategy, I guess it doesn't work in real life but I can't figure why
[2017-02-04 09:56:09] Noobz : sell low buy high?
[2017-02-04 09:56:20] qntoine : say I open a market order seconds before the XBTUSD swap settlement, whichever long or short is supposed to receive the funding rate, and close it just after
[2017-02-04 09:56:34] lodek1 : or in most cases buy high and sell low
[2017-02-04 09:57:00] Noobz : lodek1: that strategy would work
[2017-02-04 09:57:20] qntoine : what would prevent that strategy from working? that sounds too easy to be possible
[2017-02-04 09:57:32] lodek1 : Noobz: hahahah
[2017-02-04 09:57:52] qntoine : I gain 2*maker fees + funding rate with limited exposure, given that volatility is low
[2017-02-04 09:58:04] Noobz : qntoine: you can do that but you have to take into account the fees for market orders. And the market shifts because you would not be the only one doing that
[2017-02-04 09:58:14] Farzad : qntoine: because u r not considering the spread and also the market may move against you
[2017-02-04 09:58:15] qntoine : fees for market orders are negative
[2017-02-04 09:58:27] qntoine : yes market move sounds like the biggest risk
[2017-02-04 09:58:39] qntoine : but, is that it?
[2017-02-04 09:58:40] lodek1 : GO UP TO 1020!!!!!!!!!!!!
[2017-02-04 09:59:03] Noobz : qntoine: they will not be negative because no one will buy your orders a few seconds before.
[2017-02-04 09:59:09] qntoine : if I only keep my position for a couple of seconds, that should't be too risky, yes?
[2017-02-04 09:59:16] Noobz : just try it out with a really small project
[2017-02-04 09:59:30] Farzad : qntoine: it doesnt work :D
[2017-02-04 09:59:32] qntoine : ah true taht too
[2017-02-04 09:59:44] qntoine : Farzad: why?
[2017-02-04 10:00:12] BitMEX_Wally : qntoine: The fees for being a maker are negative. If you submit a market order you are a taker
[2017-02-04 10:00:15] lodek1 : qntoine: start out on limit with 20$ and buy 2000
[2017-02-04 10:00:43] Farzad : qntoine: told u, u buy at ask price and sell at bid. even if u do it instantly. you will make a loss.
[2017-02-04 10:01:09] Farzad : also you should pay the fees
[2017-02-04 10:01:25] lodek1 : its stuck at 11.85 for a while now
[2017-02-04 10:01:30] Farzad : because your orders are market
[2017-02-04 10:01:58] qntoine : Farzad: understood; thanks
[2017-02-04 10:02:07] Farzad : qntoine: np :)
[2017-02-04 10:02:10] qntoine : but what if I put limit orders instead?
[2017-02-04 10:02:13] qntoine : with OCO?
[2017-02-04 10:02:28] RoftheN : It went to 1024?!!
[2017-02-04 10:02:34] qntoine : sorry I mean Post-Only
[2017-02-04 10:02:38] qntoine : not OCO
[2017-02-04 10:03:17] BitMEX_Wally : If the funding rate is 0.25% and you go short just before funding, do not be surprised if the market makers put up their prices by exactly 0.25% just after funding...
[2017-02-04 10:03:22] Noobz : then you would not be sure it gets filled before funding or after funding
[2017-02-04 10:03:52] Noobz : BitMEX_Wally: exactly, but probably 0.26%
[2017-02-04 10:04:26] qntoine : BitMEX_Wally: ah right, so it's factored by market makers
[2017-02-04 10:04:37] qntoine : I'm too innocent
[2017-02-04 10:04:55] Farzad : qntoine: there is no easy money in trading :D
[2017-02-04 10:05:13] qntoine : haha I'm afraid so
[2017-02-04 10:05:33] qntoine : but at least you have fun learning it
[2017-02-04 10:05:44] qntoine : ok thanks guys for your answers!
[2017-02-04 10:05:58] lodek1 : start small and learn at first
[2017-02-04 10:06:11] Farzad : I second that
[2017-02-04 10:06:44] lodek1 : im getting chewed
[2017-02-04 10:06:54] qntoine : we'll see at 1PM if price moves by exactly 0.1041% haha
[2017-02-04 10:07:01] enki0182 : lodek1: ask your brother...
[2017-02-04 10:07:36] Farzad : qntoine: the last cycle it didnt move 1 bit. lol
[2017-02-04 10:07:49] lodek1 : nope
[2017-02-04 10:09:32] qntoine : Farzad: seriously? Funding rate was quite high though at -0.1586%
[2017-02-04 10:10:12] Farzad : qntoine: yes, it didnt move at all
[2017-02-04 10:10:21] Farzad : I was short and paid a lot
[2017-02-04 10:10:41] lodek1 : try limit
[2017-02-04 10:10:58] qntoine : well so in optimal circumstances that means the strategy I explained above could potentially work then
[2017-02-04 10:11:14] qntoine : I guess
[2017-02-04 10:12:03] Farzad : I dont think so, u are not considering the spread
[2017-02-04 10:12:10] lodek1 : if you are trading with pocket change go 100% leverage
[2017-02-04 10:12:31] qntoine : how big was the spread?
[2017-02-04 10:12:36] lodek1 : damn i ran out of beer
[2017-02-04 10:12:43] Farzad : I dont remember
[2017-02-04 10:12:52] Farzad : lodek1: I have ran out of food ! lol
[2017-02-04 10:13:07] lodek1 : Farzad: hahahahahah
[2017-02-04 10:13:19] qntoine : with a small enough spread, high liquidity, low volatility, high enough funding rate to cover teh spread, it could potentially work
[2017-02-04 10:13:32] qntoine : but probably that's not possible in practice
[2017-02-04 10:13:55] Farzad : qntoine: if it was possible, everyone would be doing it now ;)