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[2017-02-03 08:34:44] bg5 : morning all, so close to a great sleeping trade
[2017-02-03 08:35:10] bg5 : had sells hit around 1020 just missed my buys around 990
[2017-02-03 08:35:48] bg5 : this recovery has me spocked for my small short, moving my buyback range up
[2017-02-03 08:37:24] bg5 : what order type do I need to use so that, if the price goes up past 1030 I put a limit order to buy at 1010?
[2017-02-03 08:37:47] j8 : stop limit
[2017-02-03 08:39:10] bg5 : j8: won't let you buy in that situation
[2017-02-03 08:39:22] micmix : j8: btw, I remember you mentioned building indicators that update on each tick. have you tried to work in tick time instead? or in volume tick time?
[2017-02-03 08:40:49] jose : bg5:the kind order you want doesnt exist here
[2017-02-03 08:41:46] j8 : bg5: sure you can. stop price 1030 limit price 1010, buy stop
[2017-02-03 08:43:05] bg5 : j8: did you try it? won't let you go buy side, faded out. take profit limit seems to do it though
[2017-02-03 08:43:09] j8 : micmix: i've never tried, i'm guessing volume tick time is volume weighted, haven't tried to do anything like hat
[2017-02-03 08:45:05] j8 : bg5: it's not grayed out for me. the buy stop goes gray if the price is already above the stop price (i.e. it would immediately trigger)
[2017-02-03 08:46:47] bg5 : j8: and it's stop limit you are using not take profit limit?
[2017-02-03 08:47:20] j8 : yes
[2017-02-03 08:47:47] bg5 : j8: lol my mistake
[2017-02-03 08:48:23] bg5 : j8: had stop and limit price mixed up
[2017-02-03 08:48:28] enki0182 : battle of the whales on okcoin... lol
[2017-02-03 08:48:31] j8 : ah i see
[2017-02-03 08:48:33] enki0182 : bullwhale vs bearwhale
[2017-02-03 08:50:33] micmix : j8: volume tick means that the time ticks when a predefined volume is traded, like 10 btc, instead of each trade. and you take volume-weighted price of all trades within this volume tick
[2017-02-03 08:52:55] j8 : i see, and if there's 100 btc volume on one trade is that 10 ticks? or just one
[2017-02-03 08:53:14] micmix : 10 ticks with the same price
[2017-02-03 08:55:12] j8 : seems interesting, i guess you have to learn how to interpret it then.. or can you use the same sorts of signals?
[2017-02-03 08:55:39] micmix : you kinda stretch time when there is a lot of trading going on and compress it when trading is slow
[2017-02-03 08:55:51] j8 : yeah that's what i was imagining
[2017-02-03 08:56:43] j8 : sounds like my (abandoned) grad thesis
[2017-02-03 08:56:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1300 @ 1012.86
[2017-02-03 08:56:54] micmix : math is complicated but you can use similar basic stuff like moving averages etc.
[2017-02-03 08:57:00] KyllingLolsson : j8: u study econ?
[2017-02-03 08:57:40] j8 : math, physics, signal processing
[2017-02-03 08:58:29] -_- : Settlement pump over
[2017-02-03 08:58:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 30 @ 1012.63
[2017-02-03 08:58:33] micmix : same here, have masters in physics :smile:
[2017-02-03 08:58:41] KyllingLolsson : Smart people be stupid / Trump
[2017-02-03 08:58:45] KyllingLolsson : i have the best iq
[2017-02-03 08:58:46] j8 : :+1:
[2017-02-03 08:59:27] espadon : http://litecoinblockhalf.com/segwit.php
[2017-02-03 08:59:34] micmix : master thesis in digital signal processing...
[2017-02-03 08:59:36] espadon : is it a good idea to long litecoin ?
[2017-02-03 09:00:16] Derreck : OKcoin top #3 $BTCUSD contract holder has increased their position by 36196 contracts
[2017-02-03 09:00:41] KyllingLolsson : what is a woodchipper
[2017-02-03 09:00:46] KyllingLolsson : whale?
[2017-02-03 09:00:53] Derreck : KyllingLolsson: 0kcoin
[2017-02-03 09:01:00] j8 : micmix: yeah i dropped out of one of those :) was like 90% done too
[2017-02-03 09:01:03] KyllingLolsson : ok just another name 4 it
[2017-02-03 09:03:33] micmix : j8: my degree would be useful now, if only I could remember anything ;-)
[2017-02-03 09:03:48] bingbongfly : daym my short entry seems to have been perfect
[2017-02-03 09:04:01] bingbongfly : i'm proud, thanks mr bearwhale
[2017-02-03 09:04:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 1010.02
[2017-02-03 09:15:59] bg5 : whats a contract on ok?
[2017-02-03 09:16:10] bg5 : whats it worth
[2017-02-03 09:16:13] bg5 : $1?
[2017-02-03 09:16:21] bingbongfly : bg5: 10 I think
[2017-02-03 09:16:39] bg5 : $10 or 10RMB?
[2017-02-03 09:17:03] bingbongfly : what happened to your generation and google?
[2017-02-03 09:17:06] bingbongfly : It's not that hard
[2017-02-03 09:17:22] bingbongfly : I got no clue
[2017-02-03 09:17:29] bingbongfly : but I could find it on google in 1 min :p
[2017-02-03 09:17:50] bg5 : ?? you have no clue but you answered 10?
[2017-02-03 09:18:00] bingbongfly : I just took a guess
[2017-02-03 09:18:02] bingbongfly : but 1 min of google
[2017-02-03 09:18:05] bingbongfly : and I found: The OKCoin contract is worth a $100 of Bitcoin at all times.
[2017-02-03 09:18:29] bingbongfly : literally the second alternative on google usinng the words: okcoin contract worth
[2017-02-03 09:18:56] bg5 : Do you just answer questions with a guess regularly? yet I'm the asshole for not googling it?
[2017-02-03 09:19:08] bingbongfly : I do
[2017-02-03 09:19:12] bg5 : prat
[2017-02-03 09:19:14] bingbongfly : So people learn to not trust random strangers online
[2017-02-03 09:19:23] bingbongfly : instead, you should google
[2017-02-03 09:19:31] bingbongfly : get some trustworthy source
[2017-02-03 09:19:56] bingbongfly : I could say: $1000, you would swallow it whole ;) @bg5
[2017-02-03 09:26:57] Ahhere : bingbongfly: lol its for @bg5 own good you say
[2017-02-03 09:27:56] bingbongfly : Ahhere: yup
[2017-02-03 09:28:35] Ahhere : ah ffs my buy order was missed by less than 5 dollars last night what the shit
[2017-02-03 09:28:58] Noobz : Ahhere: same here
[2017-02-03 09:29:07] Ahhere : why did I choose a round number what an idiot
[2017-02-03 09:29:11] bg5 : ahhere: mine missed by $0.9
[2017-02-03 09:29:33] Ahhere : i guess that means we need to fomo 25 dollars higher
[2017-02-03 09:30:15] bg5 : bullish sign this recovery, my short not looking so good, am moving up my buys
[2017-02-03 09:30:31] Ahhere : this triangle still has a support at 950 so maybe jesus will smile on our orders later
[2017-02-03 09:31:16] bg5 : still got shorts as high as 1025, average 1018.6 so in profit
[2017-02-03 09:32:13] -_- : Ltc segwit signaling starts in minutes
[2017-02-03 09:33:01] -_- : http://litecoinblockhalf.com/segwit.php started
[2017-02-03 09:33:14] -_- : Ltc no pump
[2017-02-03 09:35:31] Ahhere : -_-: struggling to long ltc aparently order at price would cause immediate liquidation strange
[2017-02-03 09:35:47] -_- : Lower leverage
[2017-02-03 09:35:53] -_- : But settlement is soon
[2017-02-03 09:36:03] -_- : I'd wait
[2017-02-03 09:41:27] Ahhere : -_-: ah its my xbt buy orders eating into my liquidity i think
[2017-02-03 09:47:55] bg5 : grr I just want to make money every time on every trade is that too much to ask?!?!?
[2017-02-03 09:49:58] Ahhere : bg5: I think thats reasonable with HFT algos and good tech
[2017-02-03 09:50:36] bg5 : if by good tech you mean the coin I flip
[2017-02-03 09:51:20] Ahhere : bg5: hey maths dont lie
[2017-02-03 09:51:53] bg5 : 47% of the time I am right every time
[2017-02-03 09:52:35] Ahhere : bg5: think you need to update your flip coin
[2017-02-03 09:53:46] Ahhere : I use my kids diaper as indicator. Dry = wait. Wet = long, shit = short. works every time
[2017-02-03 10:01:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 17 @ 7033.1
[2017-02-03 10:12:44] -_- : new 0kcoin high
[2017-02-03 10:12:59] -_- : gotta break down 7200 cny now
[2017-02-03 10:14:19] enki0182 : -_-: +1
[2017-02-03 10:19:04] -_- : maybe not. someone found some BTC to sell for cheaper
[2017-02-03 10:23:02] bg5 : A retrace will happen, was thinking from here to 960 ish, now I am not sure, we may go to 1050 and retrace to around here
[2017-02-03 10:37:22] Ahhere : bg5: you are right. once bitten mentality requires a good 3-5% dump before more longers jump aboard. Set liq prices accordingly
[2017-02-03 10:43:20] LocoPoco Chatocho : Now too many people think it will dump again, so it probably wont happen!
[2017-02-03 10:43:55] birdie numn : LocoPoco Chatocho: did u get liquisated overnight?
[2017-02-03 10:44:04] LocoPoco Chatocho : birdie numn: close call xD i was lucky
[2017-02-03 10:45:29] LocoPoco Chatocho : did you survive buddy?
[2017-02-03 10:45:43] LocoPoco Chatocho : I bet it was fun in the chat here with all the epic rekts that must have been going on :P
[2017-02-03 10:53:26] birdie numn : i set a stop loss at 1002 that got called
[2017-02-03 10:54:04] LocoPoco Chatocho : stop loss is no fun! :P
[2017-02-03 10:54:19] Noobz : better then rekt though
[2017-02-03 10:54:29] LocoPoco Chatocho : I always go to bed with max leverage, and just hope destiny wants me to live happy one more day
[2017-02-03 10:54:33] LocoPoco Chatocho : works so far haha
[2017-02-03 10:54:41] birdie numn : im not mad tho. ive felt like a blind man in a shooting gallery with these charts the last couple of days
[2017-02-03 10:54:45] LocoPoco Chatocho : but i know this bull market is ending soon and then ill be back under the bridge :p
[2017-02-03 10:57:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 1010.40
[2017-02-03 10:57:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2170 @ 1009.91
[2017-02-03 11:06:36] bg5 : wow that drop in the monthly just hit the start of my buys, I am now flat again, next buy goal 990 and next sell goal 1030, will stay flat inbetween
[2017-02-03 11:21:09] neox : troll me a river
[2017-02-03 11:27:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 14 @ 0.003950
[2017-02-03 11:29:13] Ahhere : Nice red dildo on finex
[2017-02-03 11:29:34] bg5 : anyone shorting here?
[2017-02-03 11:30:02] Ahhere : bg5: balls too small
[2017-02-03 11:30:13] Noobz : don't trust it yet
[2017-02-03 11:30:28] LocoPoco Chatocho : 100x short ofc
[2017-02-03 11:30:33] LocoPoco Chatocho : I wouldnt be living if not
[2017-02-03 11:31:11] LocoPoco Chatocho : need to have my daily fix of leverage
[2017-02-03 11:31:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2500 @ 1008.95
[2017-02-03 11:31:43] bg5 : Ahhere: mine too, but I have been trading for 2 days straight, it feels strange to be out
[2017-02-03 11:34:16] Ahhere : bg5: if i were a bear bias I'd be short down to 990s. If no dip by 6-7pm gmt ill buy back in as close to 1000 as possible
[2017-02-03 11:34:26] Ahhere : speaking of which where are the bears hiding?
[2017-02-03 11:34:45] Ahhere : LocoPoco Chatocho: u kray
[2017-02-03 11:35:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2536 @ 1008.44
[2017-02-03 11:35:41] bg5 : Ahhere: I agree, will start treating 1000 as a entry point if it stays stable all day
[2017-02-03 11:35:51] rapidtrades : yesssssssssssss
[2017-02-03 11:36:08] rapidtrades : knock this b1tch down back below 1k where she belongs
[2017-02-03 11:36:09] -_- : Way to long the top on 50x people
[2017-02-03 11:36:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 202120 @ 1005.74 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2017-02-03 11:36:22] LocoPoco Chatocho : haha
[2017-02-03 11:36:24] Noobz : lol
[2017-02-03 11:36:41] Ahhere : Wow 200k ouch
[2017-02-03 11:36:44] rustiv : wtf is wrong with some people lol
[2017-02-03 11:37:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 23096 @ 1004.88
[2017-02-03 11:37:17] REKT : :btc: :soon: :toilet:
[2017-02-03 11:37:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1383 @ 1005.05
[2017-02-03 11:37:17] rapidtrades : bulls dreamz crushed
[2017-02-03 11:37:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3500 @ 1004.15
[2017-02-03 11:37:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 30000 @ 1004.08
[2017-02-03 11:37:33] LocoPoco Chatocho : yup
[2017-02-03 11:37:35] LocoPoco Chatocho : 950 now
[2017-02-03 11:37:45] Derreck : dump
[2017-02-03 11:37:55] rapidtrades : low 500s here we come
[2017-02-03 11:38:00] Derreck : rapidtrades: lol
[2017-02-03 11:38:04] bg5 : grr I was about to head out, now I am compelled
[2017-02-03 11:38:14] Derreck : it won't go below 980
[2017-02-03 11:38:16] bg5 : -1000 here we come
[2017-02-03 11:38:30] bg5 : everyone without bitcoin will be paid
[2017-02-03 11:38:32] Ahhere : Oh lord jesus its a fire
[2017-02-03 11:38:34] rapidtrades : Derreck: below 980 in 1h b1tch
[2017-02-03 11:39:22] Noobz : stamp sub 1000
[2017-02-03 11:39:32] Noobz : finex too
[2017-02-03 11:40:45] bg5 : mini market trade just so I have a little action, am mini short
[2017-02-03 11:41:59] Ahhere : bg5: U know ur an addict rite?
[2017-02-03 11:42:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 8 @ 1003.30
[2017-02-03 11:42:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 1003.02
[2017-02-03 11:42:44] bg5 : ahhere : It's worse I am thinking of longing LTC after settlement
[2017-02-03 11:43:08] Ahhere : bg5: ahead of u. Still got those doge? Lol
[2017-02-03 11:44:09] bg5 : ahhere: the doge are a long term investment, will be 2x higher in a few months or 50% lower
[2017-02-03 11:44:42] Ahhere : bg5: so low they cant go much lower i hearya
[2017-02-03 11:44:58] birdie numn : keep the doge. everyone knows bitcoin will get us to the moon but doge will be the go-to choice for the offcicial moon currency.
[2017-02-03 11:45:47] bg5 : pretty much, they worthless but as long as idiots like me buy them they usually go up sometimes
[2017-02-03 11:45:54] Ahhere : birdie numn: world reserve currency more like
[2017-02-03 11:46:53] -_- : Never thought I'd see triple digits again. The bearwhales have blessed us
[2017-02-03 11:47:37] -_- : DOGE is out. All about Pepecoin now
[2017-02-03 11:47:47] -_- : Pepe in DOGE out
[2017-02-03 11:48:37] bg5 : shake it all about
[2017-02-03 11:54:19] Ahhere : Well that was a gay ass dump
[2017-02-03 11:55:07] Ahhere : 2/10 wouldnt watch again
[2017-02-03 11:55:10] -_- : And back up
[2017-02-03 11:55:20] -_- : Can't keep a good thing down
[2017-02-03 11:55:51] Putin : i'm stuck in my long
[2017-02-03 11:57:37] Ahhere : Putin: entry 1025?
[2017-02-03 11:58:55] Putin : close, 1018
[2017-02-03 11:59:26] Putin : Ahhere: still optimistic though
[2017-02-03 12:00:29] Ahhere : Putin: sure that could be support by next week
[2017-02-03 12:11:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 1 @ 0.012299
[2017-02-03 12:11:25] bg5 : Am I correct in saying the other times we always pasted 1000 quickly in either direction, this is the first time to bounce aroung it so much?
[2017-02-03 12:12:33] -_- : Lol xmr long margin called. Settlement just happened
[2017-02-03 12:12:44] Ahhere : bg5: i believe so. Perhaps this is how it is without chinese shenanigans
[2017-02-03 12:14:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 55 @ 992.11
[2017-02-03 12:14:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2624 @ 1000.48
[2017-02-03 12:14:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 199004 @ 990.45 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-02-03 12:15:01] bg5 : after another look at LTC I don't see a good entry
[2017-02-03 12:15:03] -_- : Epic
[2017-02-03 12:15:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 60000 @ 999.59 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-02-03 12:15:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 11 @ 999.39
[2017-02-03 12:15:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 38334 @ 998.54
[2017-02-03 12:15:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 140301 @ 987.82 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-02-03 12:15:29] Ahhere : Omggg
[2017-02-03 12:15:30] Tetsuo : c u bi bi bull
[2017-02-03 12:15:44] PatioCrasher : woah
[2017-02-03 12:15:59] bg5 : hey I hit some buys, I am long again
[2017-02-03 12:16:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 600 @ 996.29
[2017-02-03 12:17:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1385 @ 995.91
[2017-02-03 12:17:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 994.91
[2017-02-03 12:17:06] Ahhere : Now this is bitcoin
[2017-02-03 12:17:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 700 @ 994.74
[2017-02-03 12:17:31] -_- : Big discount on futures
[2017-02-03 12:17:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 140490 @ 994.34 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-02-03 12:17:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3340 @ 994.33
[2017-02-03 12:19:13] Noobz : and another 140k
[2017-02-03 12:19:33] bg5 : back up and I am happy further down and I buy more and I am 'happy?'
[2017-02-03 12:19:49] happy : what's up
[2017-02-03 12:19:53] Ahhere : Ffs missing my buy again by a dollar this time while im awake ninja plz
[2017-02-03 12:19:56] happy : I am happy
[2017-02-03 12:20:24] ross : Is it a good idea to short now?
[2017-02-03 12:20:52] Ahhere : ross: it just dropped you should have been short at 1020 but who knows there might be more juice to be squozen
[2017-02-03 12:21:18] Ahhere : *squozened
[2017-02-03 12:22:24] bg5 : can see it inch up to 1000 and drop again
[2017-02-03 12:23:09] bg5 : also up to 1030 possible, if it were easy we'd all be rich
[2017-02-03 12:23:41] Ahhere : bg5: wait u not rich bro? What about ur coin tech?
[2017-02-03 12:23:53] Noobz : we wouldn't be rich becasue there wouldn't be anyone to profit from
[2017-02-03 12:24:00] Nooby : lol dump is coming
[2017-02-03 12:24:24] Nooby : never 1000 again today
[2017-02-03 12:24:44] Ahhere : Nooby: omg lol i give it a half hour
[2017-02-03 12:24:58] Ahhere : tops
[2017-02-03 12:25:08] Nooby : you just have to see it dumps again
[2017-02-03 12:25:45] Ahhere : never say bieber @Nooby
[2017-02-03 12:25:51] Ahhere : *never
[2017-02-03 12:26:09] Noobz : bieber lol
[2017-02-03 12:26:13] Nooby : see !!995
[2017-02-03 12:26:49] Ahhere : Nooby: i stand correctd
[2017-02-03 12:28:12] itsfall : we going down
[2017-02-03 12:28:14] itsfall : yesss
[2017-02-03 12:28:30] itsfall : sell now, buy low :)
[2017-02-03 12:28:51] Nooby : yes that s it i think also
[2017-02-03 12:28:53] neox : I'm waiting for it
[2017-02-03 12:29:13] Ahhere : Nice time to be long funding wise sweet
[2017-02-03 12:30:13] Nooby : oupsss maybe time to buy again? oh nooooooo
[2017-02-03 12:31:38] Nooby : pfffff it pumps????
[2017-02-03 12:31:55] sleger : look at china guys
[2017-02-03 12:32:09] Nooby : and? they buy???
[2017-02-03 12:32:11] Avalanche : people learned to react to green hammer
[2017-02-03 12:32:16] Avalanche : :D
[2017-02-03 12:32:53] Nooby : Ahhere: maybe you were right....lets see if it will pump to 1030 but im pretty sure that it wont
[2017-02-03 12:33:18] espadon : what is " Settlement" ?
[2017-02-03 12:33:19] Nooby : i hope not lol
[2017-02-03 12:33:53] sleger : espadon: the black hole for positions
[2017-02-03 12:34:34] Avalanche : this was the second dump, it was weaker with higher low, clear as a sunny day :)
[2017-02-03 12:34:34] Ahhere : Nooby: would love to buy lower but even if it dumps a bit, it is going to ath before the etf result and then its gambling time. Im as certain as one can be. Which is not at all
[2017-02-03 12:34:54] espadon : sleger: the black hole ? can you explain me please
[2017-02-03 12:35:19] Avalanche : keep shorting
[2017-02-03 12:35:23] sleger : espadon: its something that sucks up your position and they totally disappear to never come back
[2017-02-03 12:36:30] espadon : sleger: ah ok, when this can happened ?
[2017-02-03 12:36:33] Ahhere : espadon: all these these derivative contracts have expiry dates(settlement) at which point fees are calculated and other costs which influence the instrument to pump or dump more than spot price
[2017-02-03 12:36:56] herpinator : nice volitility today
[2017-02-03 12:36:56] sleger : espadon: usually on fridays or end of quarters
[2017-02-03 12:37:19] Ahhere : do find in page contract details and click more details
[2017-02-03 12:37:27] espadon : Ahhere: ok thank you
[2017-02-03 12:37:31] espadon : sleger: ok thank you
[2017-02-03 12:37:37] Nooby : f*** liq price is 1015 stop buying guys ;p
[2017-02-03 12:39:14] neox : Nooby you are long :P
[2017-02-03 12:39:23] Nooby : Ahhere: OMG you really think that we will hit 1030???
[2017-02-03 12:39:40] Nooby : arrrgggggg
[2017-02-03 12:41:37] espadon : Ahhere: At settelment all position are closed ?
[2017-02-03 12:41:37] Nooby : ahhh yeaaahhhh
[2017-02-03 12:42:17] Ahhere : Nooby: yes we will IMO but f* knows you might get big dumpening first
[2017-02-03 12:42:42] Ahhere : espadon: no it rolls over but fees taken or added which can close positions if close to liquidation i believe
[2017-02-03 12:43:07] Ahhere : which fuels settlement pump/dump
[2017-02-03 12:43:08] guacamole : espadon: yeah you get paid out at current market rate, which is usually average price of the index market over an hour or so
[2017-02-03 12:44:12] espadon : guacamole: ok fuck :p
[2017-02-03 12:44:20] Ahhere : guacamole: but position stays open though unless fees liquidate u?
[2017-02-03 12:44:59] espadon : Ahhere: My position has been closed at 12:00
[2017-02-03 12:45:48] guacamole : Ahhere: unless bitmex is different, settlement usually means actual settlement - but if bitmex does something atypical i could be mistaken
[2017-02-03 12:46:16] BitMEX_Sam : Positions are closed at settlement.
[2017-02-03 12:47:12] BitMEX_Sam : See https://www.bitmex.com/app/exchangeGuide#Funding-and-Settlement
[2017-02-03 12:47:30] espadon : BitMEX_Sam: ok ok ... Painful Learning :p
[2017-02-03 12:50:41] Farzad : BitMEX_Sam: When does the next XBT future contract get opened ? after current one is closed ?
[2017-02-03 12:50:42] Ahhere : Oops I misunderstood perpetual swap and futures @espadon glad u asked
[2017-02-03 12:51:16] Farzad : I mean after current one is settled.
[2017-02-03 12:52:00] espadon : Does all exchanges function as bitmex?
[2017-02-03 12:52:39] Avalanche : no
[2017-02-03 12:52:46] BitMEX_Sam : Farzad: It will be opened two weeks before settlement.
[2017-02-03 12:52:49] -_- : Farzad new one opens 2 weeks before xbth17 closes
[2017-02-03 12:53:13] Farzad : -_-: Thanks bro :)
[2017-02-03 12:53:25] Farzad : BitMEX_Sam: Thanks
[2017-02-03 12:54:53] Farzad : I guess the closer we get to settlement date, XBTH17 will become less volatile. am I right ?
[2017-02-03 12:55:12] BitMEX_Sam : It should, but all futures on all markets are behaving strangely the last few weeks
[2017-02-03 12:55:34] BitMEX_Sam : We did a long post on it: https://blog.bitmex.com/bitcoin-backwardation/
[2017-02-03 12:56:02] BitMEX_Sam : espadon: No, we are quite unique; our unique mark pricing system, for instance, is what allows us to have such high leverage.
[2017-02-03 12:56:37] Farzad : BitMEX_Sam: I love your exchange but I wish your fees were lower
[2017-02-03 12:56:50] Farzad : I pay $15/million in forex exchange
[2017-02-03 12:57:17] Farzad : here we pay like $750/million if I am not mistaken
[2017-02-03 12:57:23] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, volumes on Bitcoin are much, much lower than forex so fees need to be higher to be viable
[2017-02-03 12:57:29] BitMEX_Sam : However we have a quite generous rebate if you make liquidity
[2017-02-03 12:58:01] BitMEX_Sam : Which would be $250/million rebate
[2017-02-03 12:58:25] Ahhere : BitMEX_Sam: are fees for hidden orders same as those visible in orderbook?
[2017-02-03 12:58:37] BitMEX_Sam : Hidden orders always pay the taker fee, but otherwise yes
[2017-02-03 12:58:53] BitMEX_Sam : There is no additional fee added.
[2017-02-03 12:59:08] espadon : BitMEX_Sam: ok ok
[2017-02-03 13:00:38] Farzad : BitMEX_Sam: Yes, Thats a good incentive. do u have any plans to lower your fees ? I am sure your trading volume has increased a lot after you have introduced 0.075% fee.
[2017-02-03 13:01:02] BitMEX_Sam : We have no such plans at the moment.
[2017-02-03 13:01:53] bg5 : Farzad: is that what forex exchange charge including the spread? am trying to learn other trading
[2017-02-03 13:03:04] Farzad : bg5: It depends, some brokers only charge on spreads but usually they have wider spreads. good ECN brokers have much tighter spreads but charge you a small commision.
[2017-02-03 13:03:11] rapidtrades : -0.18% next? oh hell no
[2017-02-03 13:03:28] rapidtrades : @sleger get in here
[2017-02-03 13:03:46] shery : Hi buddies
[2017-02-03 13:03:51] -_- : Up $20 on xbth17 nice bounce
[2017-02-03 13:04:05] guacamole : -.18% probably won't hold for 7 hours
[2017-02-03 13:04:08] BitMEX_Sam : Be nice rapidtrades
[2017-02-03 13:04:13] shery : rapidtrades: haha what happned
[2017-02-03 13:04:25] rapidtrades : just funding setting me off again
[2017-02-03 13:04:43] rapidtrades : my fault tho, i had a shot to get out
[2017-02-03 13:04:46] bg5 : the man is trying to silence you rapid
[2017-02-03 13:05:20] sleger : rapidtrades: I'm fine where I am
[2017-02-03 13:06:23] rapidtrades : man im trading so bad since october
[2017-02-03 13:06:33] rapidtrades : its a small miracle im only down slightly
[2017-02-03 13:06:43] sleger : Thats because you listen to the greek
[2017-02-03 13:07:52] rapidtrades : wtf u said don't short march at $14 premium
[2017-02-03 13:08:08] rapidtrades : we're now at $6 discount
[2017-02-03 13:08:54] rapidtrades : both of u have shitty records this year
[2017-02-03 13:11:21] Avalanche : if this pumps again, there will be blood here :)
[2017-02-03 13:11:50] rapidtrades : not really afaik almost noone here is outright short
[2017-02-03 13:11:54] rapidtrades : its mostly hedges
[2017-02-03 13:11:56] Avalanche : based on funding rate
[2017-02-03 13:12:07] rapidtrades : ah maybe, idiots do overreact
[2017-02-03 13:12:24] trat : is there contract holder data here like okcoin?
[2017-02-03 13:12:25] Tux26 : Avalanche: Absolutely agree with you. Only reason I am keeping my long still.
[2017-02-03 13:12:42] rapidtrades : for the 0.06% funding? @Tux26
[2017-02-03 13:12:48] Avalanche : Tux26: I'm perma bear, but I'm long hehe :)
[2017-02-03 13:12:57] Tux26 : Sure, it adds up
[2017-02-03 13:13:02] rapidtrades : u know that's like 60 cents right
[2017-02-03 13:13:17] Tux26 : well its percentual, so depends on the position :)
[2017-02-03 13:13:32] rapidtrades : OF THE PRICE
[2017-02-03 13:13:42] Tux26 : ok true
[2017-02-03 13:13:43] Avalanche : rapidtrades: it's more than 100$ for me so :)
[2017-02-03 13:14:01] Tux26 : exactly, free money if you expect more upside anyway
[2017-02-03 13:16:05] loomdart : hey guys
[2017-02-03 13:16:08] loomdart : why are we going up
[2017-02-03 13:16:18] loomdart : I thought we were menna flash crash to $400?????
[2017-02-03 13:16:26] Avalanche : lol
[2017-02-03 13:16:38] loomdart : oh wait
[2017-02-03 13:16:45] rapidtrades : loomdart: its 5xx
[2017-02-03 13:16:46] Noobz : somebody accidentally dropped a blue pill
[2017-02-03 13:16:54] loomdart : I know why we're going up
[2017-02-03 13:16:56] rapidtrades : the longer u pump this shit, the harder the crash
[2017-02-03 13:17:00] loomdart : BECAUSE IT'S A BULL MARKET LOL
[2017-02-03 13:17:09] rapidtrades : its a POS token noone uses for anything
[2017-02-03 13:17:15] Avalanche : loomdart: :) good one
[2017-02-03 13:17:32] rapidtrades : its like tesla selling 10 cars with 60 bil valuation
[2017-02-03 13:17:44] rapidtrades : both will crumble soon
[2017-02-03 13:17:49] Ahhere : rapidtrades: erm I use it for storing my monies?
[2017-02-03 13:17:55] loomdart : dude
[2017-02-03 13:17:57] loomdart : what the fuck
[2017-02-03 13:18:00] Tux26 : Bitcoin is not POS (Proof of Stake) anyway
[2017-02-03 13:18:00] rapidtrades : then ur a dummy @Ahhere
[2017-02-03 13:18:17] Ahhere : rapidtrades: 400% return dummy
[2017-02-03 13:18:34] rapidtrades : how much return did u have at start of 2015?
[2017-02-03 13:18:44] Ahhere : rapidtrades: dunno +ve
[2017-02-03 13:19:14] Ahhere : thats when i bought
[2017-02-03 13:19:19] rapidtrades : so how much of ur net worth is in bitcoin?
[2017-02-03 13:19:22] Avalanche : dump is over and price below 1k is history
[2017-02-03 13:19:23] rapidgains : you know what time it its guys?
[2017-02-03 13:19:30] rapidgains : time for some 'rapid gains'
[2017-02-03 13:19:37] Ahhere : rapidtrades: 1000.7%
[2017-02-03 13:20:23] loomdart : rapid gains?
[2017-02-03 13:20:23] Avalanche : cmon bitcorn few more for more rekts and popcorns
[2017-02-03 13:20:56] rapidgains : the best kind of gains
[2017-02-03 13:22:32] loomdart : why not slow high % gains that are stress free?
[2017-02-03 13:24:10] rapidgains : what are you some kinda of p*ssy
[2017-02-03 13:25:16] rapidtrades : US jobs in 5 mins
[2017-02-03 13:26:00] loomdart : yes I am a pussy
[2017-02-03 13:28:08] loomdart : what's wrong with slow gains
[2017-02-03 13:28:17] rapidgains : quarter hit 780
[2017-02-03 13:28:21] rapidgains : wow u guys are funny
[2017-02-03 13:28:29] rapidgains : 980*
[2017-02-03 13:28:45] trat : LAG!
[2017-02-03 13:29:07] loomdart : rapid trading is the number one killer of traders according to recent US polls
[2017-02-03 13:29:19] rapidgains : lol
[2017-02-03 13:29:35] loomdart : do you reckon warren buffet trades rapidly
[2017-02-03 13:29:40] loomdart : do you not want to be warren buffet?
[2017-02-03 13:29:48] loomdart : I see his poster on your wall
[2017-02-03 13:29:53] loomdart : why must you bring shame to him
[2017-02-03 13:30:41] rapidtrades : cmon bitcorns dump
[2017-02-03 13:30:46] rapidtrades : daddy needs a payday
[2017-02-03 13:31:26] guacamole : loomdart: those fees and spreads add up
[2017-02-03 13:31:54] guacamole : but then again, you certainly wouldn't want to trade slowly
[2017-02-03 13:31:55] rapidtrades : jobs better then expected but wage growth down, dollar down
[2017-02-03 13:32:06] rapidtrades : if anyone cares :)
[2017-02-03 13:32:32] loomdart : wow us dollar down!
[2017-02-03 13:32:34] loomdart : btc/usd
[2017-02-03 13:32:39] loomdart : if usd is down..... hmmmmmm
[2017-02-03 13:32:44] loomdart : let me do some calculations...
[2017-02-03 13:33:09] loomdart : trump will soon start putting border controls on cash hmmmmm.......
[2017-02-03 13:33:19] Ahhere : Mini Dip below 1k incoming
[2017-02-03 13:33:47] Ahhere : loomdart: trump wants dollar toilet paper
[2017-02-03 13:33:55] yungyang : no yanks allowed
[2017-02-03 13:33:55] guacamole : if dollar is down... cny is up... china panics because they think it means bitcoin will drop... bitcoin drops because people think it will drop... $50 discount on futures... gradually climb back up
[2017-02-03 13:34:11] yungyang : holy guacamole
[2017-02-03 13:34:14] yungyang : you got it man
[2017-02-03 13:34:22] rustiv : i guess loomdart is here to watch the short rekts
[2017-02-03 13:34:28] rapidtrades : BAN LIFE
[2017-02-03 13:34:34] loomdart : I said I'd cut this bear shit out at $800
[2017-02-03 13:34:37] loomdart : did no one take heed?
[2017-02-03 13:34:45] loomdart : why would you short a bull market
[2017-02-03 13:34:51] loomdart : help me understand
[2017-02-03 13:34:51] rapidtrades : loom noone cares about ur opinion
[2017-02-03 13:35:14] loomdart : then help me understand brother
[2017-02-03 13:35:24] rapidtrades : bull markets usually don't come back from 30-35% drops
[2017-02-03 13:35:43] rapidtrades : this is a dead cat bounce
[2017-02-03 13:36:10] loomdart : a 32% dead cat bounce?
[2017-02-03 13:36:11] guacamole : cat made of rubber
[2017-02-03 13:36:16] rustiv : loomdart: a good placed short can make you rich within 5minutes
[2017-02-03 13:36:25] loomdart : I don't want to get rich within 5 minutes
[2017-02-03 13:36:30] rapidtrades : usd/cnh sharply down
[2017-02-03 13:36:43] rapidtrades : loomdart: see 2013
[2017-02-03 13:36:53] loomdart : Ok you keep looking at 2013 rapidtrades
[2017-02-03 13:36:57] loomdart : and I'll focus on 2017 ;)
[2017-02-03 13:37:04] rapidtrades : ok
[2017-02-03 13:37:37] loomdart : Why go against the trend, that's what I don't get
[2017-02-03 13:37:45] loomdart : Why not just move to a bearish stock/commodity?
[2017-02-03 13:38:08] Ahhere : loomdart: lol long western union short btc
[2017-02-03 13:39:21] loomdart : I just don't get it man
[2017-02-03 13:39:33] loomdart : Why make life hard fr yourself
[2017-02-03 13:39:58] rapidtrades : cos fudamantals are shit brah
[2017-02-03 13:40:17] loomdart : What fundamentals?
[2017-02-03 13:40:22] rapidtrades : the chinese market just got obliterated
[2017-02-03 13:41:08] rapidtrades : and the entire rise above 800 was due to pre-empting the crackdown
[2017-02-03 13:41:37] loomdart : pre-empting?
[2017-02-03 13:41:44] loomdart : surely you should have longed then if you thought this?
[2017-02-03 13:42:15] rapidtrades : i was long earlier yes, not enough tho
[2017-02-03 13:43:04] loomdart : Why not enough?
[2017-02-03 13:43:21] rapidtrades : 1/2 my size
[2017-02-03 13:43:35] loomdart : Your size?
[2017-02-03 13:43:55] rapidtrades : yes
[2017-02-03 13:44:08] loomdart : Normal position size or account equity?
[2017-02-03 13:44:26] rapidtrades : % of equity
[2017-02-03 13:44:45] loomdart : Wow
[2017-02-03 13:45:01] loomdart : you must have very large testicles
[2017-02-03 13:45:39] rapidtrades : no....i usually risk X percent, then i took 1/2 X
[2017-02-03 13:45:45] rapidtrades : i didnt yolo half my equity
[2017-02-03 13:46:20] loomdart : then say that ;)
[2017-02-03 13:46:56] rapidtrades : % of equity
[2017-02-03 13:47:30] rapidtrades : dollar getting trashed against emerging market currencies, yuan sharply higher
[2017-02-03 13:48:22] rapidtrades : usd/cnh looks like it wants to take out January lows
[2017-02-03 13:49:13] rapidtrades : the Chinese trashed their currency until Trump came to power then put on the breaks
[2017-02-03 13:49:19] Ahhere : rapidtrades: good test of chinese btc demand. Usually they would sell BTC but now minus margin...?
[2017-02-03 13:49:21] shery : rapidtrades: so what you say? are we heading down now?
[2017-02-03 13:49:35] rapidtrades : yes
[2017-02-03 13:50:06] rapidtrades : 5xx awaits soon
[2017-02-03 13:50:14] shery : rapidtrades: 500?
[2017-02-03 13:50:16] loomdart : 5xx
[2017-02-03 13:50:18] loomdart : LMAO
[2017-02-03 13:50:25] l3f : rapidbears has been calling for 500s since december
[2017-02-03 13:50:28] Ahhere : 5X
[2017-02-03 13:50:38] rapidtrades : l3f: it was 6xx
[2017-02-03 13:50:45] l3f : 599
[2017-02-03 13:50:51] loomdart : know why they're called rapid bears?
[2017-02-03 13:50:55] loomdart : because they don't last long ;)
[2017-02-03 13:50:57] rapidtrades : ive upper my bearishness about this crazyness
[2017-02-03 13:51:06] rapidtrades : since = about
[2017-02-03 13:51:38] shery : rapidtrades: shut the fck up ,
[2017-02-03 13:52:06] shery : rapidtrades: I would love to watch your face when it goes above 1100 in cominbg days
[2017-02-03 13:52:36] l3f : shery: 500 first
[2017-02-03 13:52:53] l3f : If bears can't hold down 1040
[2017-02-03 13:53:02] l3f : then the short squeeze will pop 1100
[2017-02-03 13:53:13] l3f : the next 24 hours though
[2017-02-03 13:53:15] shery : l3f: 1040 is resistance rght?
[2017-02-03 13:53:26] l3f : will be an excellent dip buying opportunity
[2017-02-03 13:53:30] rapidtrades : futures are telling u all u need to know
[2017-02-03 13:53:45] rapidtrades : we're never traded at this severe discount for so long
[2017-02-03 13:53:51] rapidtrades : shit's about to go down
[2017-02-03 13:53:59] Ahhere : rapidtrades: go home futures you are drunk
[2017-02-03 13:54:19] rapidtrades : you've been warned
[2017-02-03 13:54:29] rapidtrades : DON'T U SAY U WEREN'T WARNED
[2017-02-03 13:54:37] rapidtrades : when u lose all ur monies
[2017-02-03 13:54:52] abbey : rapidtrades: bollocks
[2017-02-03 13:55:30] Ahhere : rapidtrades: enjoy the last dip below 1k
[2017-02-03 13:55:40] Ahhere : 100x it or watevr
[2017-02-03 13:59:34] rustiv : https://in.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/bMmsatON-Not-convinced-we-can-hold-the-4-digit-psychology/
[2017-02-03 13:59:37] rustiv : rapidtrades: is that you
[2017-02-03 14:04:18] rapidtrades : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anthony-scaramucci/bitcoin-plummets-on-yuan-_b_14080314.html
[2017-02-03 14:05:22] rapidtrades : Yuan back below 6.80
[2017-02-03 14:05:40] rapidtrades : bulls asses are on fire they just haven't noticed it yet
[2017-02-03 14:08:14] Ahhere : rapidtrades: if you were talking this nonsense to Trump he would have hung up by now.
[2017-02-03 14:08:19] LOOKSBAD : oh boy
[2017-02-03 14:08:49] sleger : china is 30$ ahead, good times
[2017-02-03 14:10:14] LOOKSBAD : Rumour is that at least one of the big 3 chinese exchanges is running a fractual reserve and are about to go down due to the PBOC inspection. Therefore insiders are selling quarterly contracts on okkoin with both hands.
[2017-02-03 14:10:42] rapidtrades : and where did u hear this rumour?
[2017-02-03 14:10:59] LOOKSBAD : can´t disclose my sources
[2017-02-03 14:11:17] rapidtrades : Mr. Colon perhaps?
[2017-02-03 14:11:43] LOOKSBAD : this is serious, good look trying to go to the moon
[2017-02-03 14:11:57] micmix : this looks really bad! sell all your coins! panic now!
[2017-02-03 14:13:36] Brazilian Goat : Its true
[2017-02-03 14:15:17] RoftheN : How would you know it's true?
[2017-02-03 14:15:35] Ugly_Old_Goat : Last chance to buy at 1000
[2017-02-03 14:15:56] Ahhere : LOOKSBAD: did you mean FRACTIONAL RESERVE?
[2017-02-03 14:16:04] shery : RoftheN: shorters finding a clue to be satisfied!
[2017-02-03 14:16:08] Ahhere : your sources cant spell
[2017-02-03 14:18:09] Avalanche : Ahhere: I think that's normal for China :)
[2017-02-03 14:18:28] Ahhere : Avalanche: omg racist