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[2017-02-03 07:12:48] j8 : batch orders and amends make a big difference too.
[2017-02-03 07:13:07] BitMEX_Wally : keith123: j8 has good advice :)
[2017-02-03 07:13:27] keith123 : batch orders - we wish to have multiple pairs inside one batch
[2017-02-03 07:13:32] keith123 : amends - already using
[2017-02-03 07:14:23] keith123 : 429 - already on the way, we have to make sure that won't create a long queue if we wait 10s for each request (the worst case)
[2017-02-03 07:15:16] keith123 : i hope you understand we trade on all markets of yours and our number of open order is quite different from normal traders
[2017-02-03 07:15:50] keith123 : will talk to keith further on that
[2017-02-03 07:20:34] lodek1 : CLIMB
[2017-02-03 07:20:50] Putin : FALL
[2017-02-03 07:21:05] lodek1 : hehe
[2017-02-03 07:21:46] lodek1 : it droped instantly from 1018
[2017-02-03 07:23:36] narnarfromnarnia : i just got rekt when we were 6 dollars below kaiko
[2017-02-03 07:25:03] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: how much btc u loose?
[2017-02-03 07:25:21] lodek1 : i missed the drop!!!!
[2017-02-03 07:25:22] narnarfromnarnia : not a significant amount
[2017-02-03 07:25:36] narnarfromnarnia : i was rekt earlier from the sudden drop when i had a buy signal
[2017-02-03 07:26:09] MikeHunt : ouch
[2017-02-03 07:26:11] lodek1 : no but if you have a good amount invested it pays off
[2017-02-03 07:27:42] narnarfromnarnia : also my liquidation wasn't displayed here in the chat box
[2017-02-03 07:29:35] lodek1 : i waited 6 hours for this
[2017-02-03 07:31:23] keith123 : BitMEX_Wally: anyway thanks Wally - we understand we have plenty of rooms to improve :) but the batch orders for multiple pairs - that will be a great plus for us
[2017-02-03 07:31:35] keith123 : please consider to prioritize it :)
[2017-02-03 07:32:14] KyllingLolsson : Hopefully this is a top alike the one from 2017-01-04. We need a big healthy retrace. Study history. Or perhaps just a "minor" retrace like the one 2016-21-25
[2017-02-03 07:32:56] elmorte : 25/21...never forget
[2017-02-03 07:33:10] heheh lo : elmorte: lmao
[2017-02-03 07:34:04] elmorte : China is soldiering on it seems
[2017-02-03 07:34:30] MikeHunt : im just wondering what the hell is driving this thing
[2017-02-03 07:35:14] elmorte : ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[2017-02-03 07:35:23] elmorte : ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
[2017-02-03 07:35:39] keith123 : MikeHunt: Trump
[2017-02-03 07:35:40] BitMEX_Wally : keith123: I will see what we can do, but if you are quoting a bid and and offer for the same instrument you can submit these via the bulk order in the mean time
[2017-02-03 07:37:24] MikeHunt : keith123: trump using americas gold reserves to buy btc? lol
[2017-02-03 07:39:03] rapidgains : that bounce tho
[2017-02-03 07:39:10] rapidgains : da phuc
[2017-02-03 07:45:53] KyllingLolsson : yuge sell volume
[2017-02-03 07:46:39] Ahhere : How is one supposed to BTFD? This is a disgrace.
[2017-02-03 07:49:47] KyllingLolsson : This is going down sooner or later, im not shorting tho, too easilly get burnt by that
[2017-02-03 07:51:13] micmix : keith123: cancel all orders for one market - 1 request. putting 100 orders back on the market - 1 request. I have 100+ orders and I don't see what the problem is.
[2017-02-03 07:53:37] Derreck : next stop - 8888
[2017-02-03 07:53:39] j8 : placing 100 orders counts as 10 for the ratelimiting though right
[2017-02-03 07:54:19] rapidgains : this bounce is wow
[2017-02-03 07:54:44] keith123 : putting 100 orders back on the market - 1 request. <--- you mean 100 orders in 10 bulks right?
[2017-02-03 07:55:21] MikeHunt : i think my little short gonna get rekt
[2017-02-03 07:55:54] micmix : j8: yep, 100 counts as 10 now
[2017-02-03 07:56:29] j8 : but it can be done in one request
[2017-02-03 07:56:58] keith123 : micmix: do you buffer your orders then?
[2017-02-03 07:57:08] micmix : keith123: if you need 100 on one market it's one REST call, counts as 10 against API limit
[2017-02-03 07:57:40] micmix : if you need 10 on 10 markets it's 10 REST calls, still counts as 10 against API limit
[2017-02-03 07:58:34] micmix : yes, I batch them per market to submit in one REST call, then amend when needed
[2017-02-03 07:58:46] micmix : most often you only need to amend the top
[2017-02-03 07:59:36] micmix : orders deep in the book can be amended much less often
[2017-02-03 08:01:15] keith123 : micmix: ya for cancel we already bulked it amend - yes we amend the top orders and we use up the limit only when the market moves vigorously
[2017-02-03 08:02:03] micmix : bulk amend saves a lot of calls too, bc you usually have to amend top bid and ask together
[2017-02-03 08:02:10] keith123 : we prefer not to buffer the quotes .... so we at most only bulk 1-2 orders in one batch
[2017-02-03 08:02:33] NukeLaloosh : how on earth can the okc 0203 be $10 away from settlement with less than a minute to go??
[2017-02-03 08:02:53] NukeLaloosh : sorry, two minutes to go
[2017-02-03 08:03:38] keith123 : micmix: that's why i ask them to enable multiple pairs per batch, when xbt moves usually we have to change other market's top quotes too
[2017-02-03 08:05:08] micmix : keith123: yep, it would be nice but I can understand why they don't want to do that. it's separate risk check for each market, so 10x discounting is not correct
[2017-02-03 08:08:14] keith123 : micmix: yes but still... the result returned should still be either success or failed with an error
[2017-02-03 08:08:28] keith123 : micmix: by the way which country are you based in, nice to meet you
[2017-02-03 08:08:42] micmix : Canada, you?
[2017-02-03 08:08:45] keith123 : micmix: have not met any pro market makers in asia so far
[2017-02-03 08:08:58] keith123 : micmix: HK, same as bitmex
[2017-02-03 08:09:24] bingbongfly : keith123: bitmex is not based in hongkong
[2017-02-03 08:09:31] keith123 : their office is
[2017-02-03 08:09:49] bingbongfly : keith123: sure, but saying "same as bitmex" is wrong
[2017-02-03 08:10:03] keith123 : bingbongfly: based ;)
[2017-02-03 08:10:17] bingbongfly : but, it's not based in HK, it's based in Seychelles
[2017-02-03 08:10:29] keith123 : bingbongfly: ok lol u win
[2017-02-03 08:10:31] bingbongfly : keith123: dw, I also thought it was based in HK up until recently :p
[2017-02-03 08:10:38] bingbongfly : easy to make the confusion
[2017-02-03 08:10:49] keith123 : micmix: are you a full time MM?
[2017-02-03 08:12:21] rapidtrades : so they tried to push it down last night but u idiots bought it up again
[2017-02-03 08:12:27] rapidtrades : jesus f*cking christ
[2017-02-03 08:12:38] rapidgains : incredible shit man
[2017-02-03 08:12:48] rapidtrades : 500 it is then
[2017-02-03 08:13:41] itsfall : rapidtrades: i guess there will be another drop for us to buy :)
[2017-02-03 08:13:47] micmix : keith123: actually if you batch multiple markets and get 429 limit error it's not that good. that means all amends failed and you screwed on all markets. if you do it per market maybe you get 429 on the second or third amend, so you still good on those markets
[2017-02-03 08:14:13] rapidtrades : yeah u do that, worked out great for the +1100 dumbos
[2017-02-03 08:14:37] itsfall : xD no i didnt ^^
[2017-02-03 08:14:48] keith123 : micmix: you are right - let me look into it too
[2017-02-03 08:15:17] rapidtrades : ur buds did tho and u don't see them anymore here
[2017-02-03 08:15:31] rapidtrades : u just got lucky and happened to catch a falling knife
[2017-02-03 08:15:42] rapidtrades : ull be gone when u miss it next time
[2017-02-03 08:15:49] itsfall : har har har
[2017-02-03 08:16:02] itsfall : i'm here
[2017-02-03 08:16:12] rapidtrades : not for long b1tch
[2017-02-03 08:16:24] itsfall : why so rude lol
[2017-02-03 08:16:37] itsfall : did you vote for trump? haha
[2017-02-03 08:16:44] rapidtrades : permabulls annoy me
[2017-02-03 08:17:13] rapidgains : bitch
[2017-02-03 08:17:16] itsfall : lol
[2017-02-03 08:17:17] rapidgains : nothing
[2017-02-03 08:17:27] rapidgains : rapid why do you censor it
[2017-02-03 08:17:49] -_- : 19 cny away from new high 0kcoin
[2017-02-03 08:17:57] itsfall : -_-: nice
[2017-02-03 08:18:15] -_- : Futures $10 away cause their lame
[2017-02-03 08:23:21] rapidgains : what a time to be alive
[2017-02-03 08:23:43] itsfall : rapidgains: :)
[2017-02-03 08:26:36] -_- : 5 cny away from new high
[2017-02-03 08:26:58] -_- : 7250 cny breaks and very thin order book again
[2017-02-03 08:27:02] rapidgains : this is hilarious
[2017-02-03 08:27:15] -_- : actually 7200 cny
[2017-02-03 08:27:26] -_- : be like 400 btc to 7450 cny
[2017-02-03 08:27:59] -_- : yet 0kcoin quarterly $32 discount
[2017-02-03 08:28:14] -_- : needs some Viagra over there
[2017-02-03 08:30:03] -_- : ltc/btc new low lolol
[2017-02-03 08:30:17] Ahhere : 1050 today 80%
[2017-02-03 08:30:27] MikeHunt : MFI suggests heavily overbought
[2017-02-03 08:30:33] MikeHunt : on 1day
[2017-02-03 08:30:41] -_- : last time ltc/btc this low 4 years ago
[2017-02-03 08:30:51] Ahhere : No such thing in bitcoin.
[2017-02-03 08:31:21] enki0182 : Ahhere: +1
[2017-02-03 08:31:35] Ahhere : Overbought is new under ought
[2017-02-03 08:31:46] Ahhere : *
[2017-02-03 08:31:46] Noobz : Morning Peepz. how has rekt been behaving?
[2017-02-03 08:34:44] bg5 : morning all, so close to a great sleeping trade
[2017-02-03 08:35:10] bg5 : had sells hit around 1020 just missed my buys around 990
[2017-02-03 08:35:48] bg5 : this recovery has me spocked for my small short, moving my buyback range up
[2017-02-03 08:37:24] bg5 : what order type do I need to use so that, if the price goes up past 1030 I put a limit order to buy at 1010?
[2017-02-03 08:37:47] j8 : stop limit
[2017-02-03 08:39:10] bg5 : j8: won't let you buy in that situation
[2017-02-03 08:39:22] micmix : j8: btw, I remember you mentioned building indicators that update on each tick. have you tried to work in tick time instead? or in volume tick time?
[2017-02-03 08:40:49] jose : bg5:the kind order you want doesnt exist here
[2017-02-03 08:41:46] j8 : bg5: sure you can. stop price 1030 limit price 1010, buy stop
[2017-02-03 08:43:05] bg5 : j8: did you try it? won't let you go buy side, faded out. take profit limit seems to do it though
[2017-02-03 08:43:09] j8 : micmix: i've never tried, i'm guessing volume tick time is volume weighted, haven't tried to do anything like hat
[2017-02-03 08:45:05] j8 : bg5: it's not grayed out for me. the buy stop goes gray if the price is already above the stop price (i.e. it would immediately trigger)
[2017-02-03 08:46:47] bg5 : j8: and it's stop limit you are using not take profit limit?
[2017-02-03 08:47:20] j8 : yes
[2017-02-03 08:47:47] bg5 : j8: lol my mistake
[2017-02-03 08:48:23] bg5 : j8: had stop and limit price mixed up
[2017-02-03 08:48:28] enki0182 : battle of the whales on okcoin... lol
[2017-02-03 08:48:31] j8 : ah i see
[2017-02-03 08:48:33] enki0182 : bullwhale vs bearwhale
[2017-02-03 08:50:33] micmix : j8: volume tick means that the time ticks when a predefined volume is traded, like 10 btc, instead of each trade. and you take volume-weighted price of all trades within this volume tick
[2017-02-03 08:52:55] j8 : i see, and if there's 100 btc volume on one trade is that 10 ticks? or just one
[2017-02-03 08:53:14] micmix : 10 ticks with the same price
[2017-02-03 08:55:12] j8 : seems interesting, i guess you have to learn how to interpret it then.. or can you use the same sorts of signals?
[2017-02-03 08:55:39] micmix : you kinda stretch time when there is a lot of trading going on and compress it when trading is slow
[2017-02-03 08:55:51] j8 : yeah that's what i was imagining
[2017-02-03 08:56:43] j8 : sounds like my (abandoned) grad thesis
[2017-02-03 08:56:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1300 @ 1012.86
[2017-02-03 08:56:54] micmix : math is complicated but you can use similar basic stuff like moving averages etc.
[2017-02-03 08:57:00] KyllingLolsson : j8: u study econ?
[2017-02-03 08:57:40] j8 : math, physics, signal processing
[2017-02-03 08:58:29] -_- : Settlement pump over
[2017-02-03 08:58:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 30 @ 1012.63
[2017-02-03 08:58:33] micmix : same here, have masters in physics :smile:
[2017-02-03 08:58:41] KyllingLolsson : Smart people be stupid / Trump
[2017-02-03 08:58:45] KyllingLolsson : i have the best iq
[2017-02-03 08:58:46] j8 : :+1:
[2017-02-03 08:59:27] espadon : http://litecoinblockhalf.com/segwit.php
[2017-02-03 08:59:34] micmix : master thesis in digital signal processing...
[2017-02-03 08:59:36] espadon : is it a good idea to long litecoin ?
[2017-02-03 09:00:16] Derreck : OKcoin top #3 $BTCUSD contract holder has increased their position by 36196 contracts
[2017-02-03 09:00:41] KyllingLolsson : what is a woodchipper
[2017-02-03 09:00:46] KyllingLolsson : whale?
[2017-02-03 09:00:53] Derreck : KyllingLolsson: 0kcoin
[2017-02-03 09:01:00] j8 : micmix: yeah i dropped out of one of those :) was like 90% done too
[2017-02-03 09:01:03] KyllingLolsson : ok just another name 4 it
[2017-02-03 09:03:33] micmix : j8: my degree would be useful now, if only I could remember anything ;-)
[2017-02-03 09:03:48] bingbongfly : daym my short entry seems to have been perfect
[2017-02-03 09:04:01] bingbongfly : i'm proud, thanks mr bearwhale
[2017-02-03 09:04:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 1010.02
[2017-02-03 09:15:59] bg5 : whats a contract on ok?
[2017-02-03 09:16:10] bg5 : whats it worth
[2017-02-03 09:16:13] bg5 : $1?
[2017-02-03 09:16:21] bingbongfly : bg5: 10 I think
[2017-02-03 09:16:39] bg5 : $10 or 10RMB?
[2017-02-03 09:17:03] bingbongfly : what happened to your generation and google?
[2017-02-03 09:17:06] bingbongfly : It's not that hard
[2017-02-03 09:17:22] bingbongfly : I got no clue
[2017-02-03 09:17:29] bingbongfly : but I could find it on google in 1 min :p
[2017-02-03 09:17:50] bg5 : ?? you have no clue but you answered 10?
[2017-02-03 09:18:00] bingbongfly : I just took a guess
[2017-02-03 09:18:02] bingbongfly : but 1 min of google
[2017-02-03 09:18:05] bingbongfly : and I found: The OKCoin contract is worth a $100 of Bitcoin at all times.
[2017-02-03 09:18:29] bingbongfly : literally the second alternative on google usinng the words: okcoin contract worth
[2017-02-03 09:18:56] bg5 : Do you just answer questions with a guess regularly? yet I'm the asshole for not googling it?
[2017-02-03 09:19:08] bingbongfly : I do
[2017-02-03 09:19:12] bg5 : prat
[2017-02-03 09:19:14] bingbongfly : So people learn to not trust random strangers online
[2017-02-03 09:19:23] bingbongfly : instead, you should google
[2017-02-03 09:19:31] bingbongfly : get some trustworthy source
[2017-02-03 09:19:56] bingbongfly : I could say: $1000, you would swallow it whole ;) @bg5
[2017-02-03 09:26:57] Ahhere : bingbongfly: lol its for @bg5 own good you say
[2017-02-03 09:27:56] bingbongfly : Ahhere: yup
[2017-02-03 09:28:35] Ahhere : ah ffs my buy order was missed by less than 5 dollars last night what the shit
[2017-02-03 09:28:58] Noobz : Ahhere: same here
[2017-02-03 09:29:07] Ahhere : why did I choose a round number what an idiot
[2017-02-03 09:29:11] bg5 : ahhere: mine missed by $0.9
[2017-02-03 09:29:33] Ahhere : i guess that means we need to fomo 25 dollars higher
[2017-02-03 09:30:15] bg5 : bullish sign this recovery, my short not looking so good, am moving up my buys
[2017-02-03 09:30:31] Ahhere : this triangle still has a support at 950 so maybe jesus will smile on our orders later
[2017-02-03 09:31:16] bg5 : still got shorts as high as 1025, average 1018.6 so in profit
[2017-02-03 09:32:13] -_- : Ltc segwit signaling starts in minutes
[2017-02-03 09:33:01] -_- : http://litecoinblockhalf.com/segwit.php started
[2017-02-03 09:33:14] -_- : Ltc no pump
[2017-02-03 09:35:31] Ahhere : -_-: struggling to long ltc aparently order at price would cause immediate liquidation strange
[2017-02-03 09:35:47] -_- : Lower leverage
[2017-02-03 09:35:53] -_- : But settlement is soon
[2017-02-03 09:36:03] -_- : I'd wait
[2017-02-03 09:41:27] Ahhere : -_-: ah its my xbt buy orders eating into my liquidity i think
[2017-02-03 09:47:55] bg5 : grr I just want to make money every time on every trade is that too much to ask?!?!?
[2017-02-03 09:49:58] Ahhere : bg5: I think thats reasonable with HFT algos and good tech
[2017-02-03 09:50:36] bg5 : if by good tech you mean the coin I flip
[2017-02-03 09:51:20] Ahhere : bg5: hey maths dont lie
[2017-02-03 09:51:53] bg5 : 47% of the time I am right every time
[2017-02-03 09:52:35] Ahhere : bg5: think you need to update your flip coin
[2017-02-03 09:53:46] Ahhere : I use my kids diaper as indicator. Dry = wait. Wet = long, shit = short. works every time
[2017-02-03 10:01:36] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBCH17`: buy 17 @ 7033.1
[2017-02-03 10:12:44] -_- : new 0kcoin high
[2017-02-03 10:12:59] -_- : gotta break down 7200 cny now
[2017-02-03 10:14:19] enki0182 : -_-: +1
[2017-02-03 10:19:04] -_- : maybe not. someone found some BTC to sell for cheaper
[2017-02-03 10:23:02] bg5 : A retrace will happen, was thinking from here to 960 ish, now I am not sure, we may go to 1050 and retrace to around here
[2017-02-03 10:37:22] Ahhere : bg5: you are right. once bitten mentality requires a good 3-5% dump before more longers jump aboard. Set liq prices accordingly
[2017-02-03 10:43:20] LocoPoco Chatocho : Now too many people think it will dump again, so it probably wont happen!
[2017-02-03 10:43:55] birdie numn : LocoPoco Chatocho: did u get liquisated overnight?
[2017-02-03 10:44:04] LocoPoco Chatocho : birdie numn: close call xD i was lucky
[2017-02-03 10:45:29] LocoPoco Chatocho : did you survive buddy?
[2017-02-03 10:45:43] LocoPoco Chatocho : I bet it was fun in the chat here with all the epic rekts that must have been going on :P
[2017-02-03 10:53:26] birdie numn : i set a stop loss at 1002 that got called
[2017-02-03 10:54:04] LocoPoco Chatocho : stop loss is no fun! :P
[2017-02-03 10:54:19] Noobz : better then rekt though
[2017-02-03 10:54:29] LocoPoco Chatocho : I always go to bed with max leverage, and just hope destiny wants me to live happy one more day
[2017-02-03 10:54:33] LocoPoco Chatocho : works so far haha
[2017-02-03 10:54:41] birdie numn : im not mad tho. ive felt like a blind man in a shooting gallery with these charts the last couple of days
[2017-02-03 10:54:45] LocoPoco Chatocho : but i know this bull market is ending soon and then ill be back under the bridge :p
[2017-02-03 10:57:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 1010.40
[2017-02-03 10:57:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2170 @ 1009.91
[2017-02-03 11:06:36] bg5 : wow that drop in the monthly just hit the start of my buys, I am now flat again, next buy goal 990 and next sell goal 1030, will stay flat inbetween
[2017-02-03 11:21:09] neox : troll me a river
[2017-02-03 11:27:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 14 @ 0.003950
[2017-02-03 11:29:13] Ahhere : Nice red dildo on finex
[2017-02-03 11:29:34] bg5 : anyone shorting here?
[2017-02-03 11:30:02] Ahhere : bg5: balls too small
[2017-02-03 11:30:13] Noobz : don't trust it yet
[2017-02-03 11:30:28] LocoPoco Chatocho : 100x short ofc
[2017-02-03 11:30:33] LocoPoco Chatocho : I wouldnt be living if not
[2017-02-03 11:31:11] LocoPoco Chatocho : need to have my daily fix of leverage
[2017-02-03 11:31:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2500 @ 1008.95
[2017-02-03 11:31:43] bg5 : Ahhere: mine too, but I have been trading for 2 days straight, it feels strange to be out
[2017-02-03 11:34:16] Ahhere : bg5: if i were a bear bias I'd be short down to 990s. If no dip by 6-7pm gmt ill buy back in as close to 1000 as possible
[2017-02-03 11:34:26] Ahhere : speaking of which where are the bears hiding?
[2017-02-03 11:34:45] Ahhere : LocoPoco Chatocho: u kray
[2017-02-03 11:35:11] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2536 @ 1008.44
[2017-02-03 11:35:41] bg5 : Ahhere: I agree, will start treating 1000 as a entry point if it stays stable all day
[2017-02-03 11:35:51] rapidtrades : yesssssssssssss
[2017-02-03 11:36:08] rapidtrades : knock this b1tch down back below 1k where she belongs
[2017-02-03 11:36:09] -_- : Way to long the top on 50x people
[2017-02-03 11:36:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 202120 @ 1005.74 **REKTosaurus** :slot_machine: :moneybag: :fire:
[2017-02-03 11:36:22] LocoPoco Chatocho : haha
[2017-02-03 11:36:24] Noobz : lol
[2017-02-03 11:36:41] Ahhere : Wow 200k ouch
[2017-02-03 11:36:44] rustiv : wtf is wrong with some people lol
[2017-02-03 11:37:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 23096 @ 1004.88
[2017-02-03 11:37:17] REKT : :btc: :soon: :toilet:
[2017-02-03 11:37:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1383 @ 1005.05
[2017-02-03 11:37:17] rapidtrades : bulls dreamz crushed
[2017-02-03 11:37:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3500 @ 1004.15
[2017-02-03 11:37:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 30000 @ 1004.08
[2017-02-03 11:37:33] LocoPoco Chatocho : yup
[2017-02-03 11:37:35] LocoPoco Chatocho : 950 now
[2017-02-03 11:37:45] Derreck : dump
[2017-02-03 11:37:55] rapidtrades : low 500s here we come
[2017-02-03 11:38:00] Derreck : rapidtrades: lol
[2017-02-03 11:38:04] bg5 : grr I was about to head out, now I am compelled
[2017-02-03 11:38:14] Derreck : it won't go below 980
[2017-02-03 11:38:16] bg5 : -1000 here we come
[2017-02-03 11:38:30] bg5 : everyone without bitcoin will be paid
[2017-02-03 11:38:32] Ahhere : Oh lord jesus its a fire
[2017-02-03 11:38:34] rapidtrades : Derreck: below 980 in 1h b1tch
[2017-02-03 11:39:22] Noobz : stamp sub 1000
[2017-02-03 11:39:32] Noobz : finex too
[2017-02-03 11:40:45] bg5 : mini market trade just so I have a little action, am mini short
[2017-02-03 11:41:59] Ahhere : bg5: U know ur an addict rite?
[2017-02-03 11:42:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 8 @ 1003.30
[2017-02-03 11:42:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 1003.02
[2017-02-03 11:42:44] bg5 : ahhere : It's worse I am thinking of longing LTC after settlement
[2017-02-03 11:43:08] Ahhere : bg5: ahead of u. Still got those doge? Lol
[2017-02-03 11:44:09] bg5 : ahhere: the doge are a long term investment, will be 2x higher in a few months or 50% lower
[2017-02-03 11:44:42] Ahhere : bg5: so low they cant go much lower i hearya
[2017-02-03 11:44:58] birdie numn : keep the doge. everyone knows bitcoin will get us to the moon but doge will be the go-to choice for the offcicial moon currency.
[2017-02-03 11:45:47] bg5 : pretty much, they worthless but as long as idiots like me buy them they usually go up sometimes
[2017-02-03 11:45:54] Ahhere : birdie numn: world reserve currency more like
[2017-02-03 11:46:53] -_- : Never thought I'd see triple digits again. The bearwhales have blessed us
[2017-02-03 11:47:37] -_- : DOGE is out. All about Pepecoin now
[2017-02-03 11:47:47] -_- : Pepe in DOGE out
[2017-02-03 11:48:37] bg5 : shake it all about
[2017-02-03 11:54:19] Ahhere : Well that was a gay ass dump
[2017-02-03 11:55:07] Ahhere : 2/10 wouldnt watch again
[2017-02-03 11:55:10] -_- : And back up
[2017-02-03 11:55:20] -_- : Can't keep a good thing down
[2017-02-03 11:55:51] Putin : i'm stuck in my long
[2017-02-03 11:57:37] Ahhere : Putin: entry 1025?
[2017-02-03 11:58:55] Putin : close, 1018
[2017-02-03 11:59:26] Putin : Ahhere: still optimistic though
[2017-02-03 12:00:29] Ahhere : Putin: sure that could be support by next week
[2017-02-03 12:11:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XMR7D`: sell 1 @ 0.012299
[2017-02-03 12:11:25] bg5 : Am I correct in saying the other times we always pasted 1000 quickly in either direction, this is the first time to bounce aroung it so much?
[2017-02-03 12:12:33] -_- : Lol xmr long margin called. Settlement just happened
[2017-02-03 12:12:44] Ahhere : bg5: i believe so. Perhaps this is how it is without chinese shenanigans
[2017-02-03 12:14:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 55 @ 992.11
[2017-02-03 12:14:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 2624 @ 1000.48
[2017-02-03 12:14:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 199004 @ 990.45 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-02-03 12:15:01] bg5 : after another look at LTC I don't see a good entry
[2017-02-03 12:15:03] -_- : Epic
[2017-02-03 12:15:07] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 60000 @ 999.59 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-02-03 12:15:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 11 @ 999.39
[2017-02-03 12:15:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 38334 @ 998.54
[2017-02-03 12:15:17] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 140301 @ 987.82 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-02-03 12:15:29] Ahhere : Omggg
[2017-02-03 12:15:30] Tetsuo : c u bi bi bull
[2017-02-03 12:15:44] PatioCrasher : woah
[2017-02-03 12:15:59] bg5 : hey I hit some buys, I am long again
[2017-02-03 12:16:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 600 @ 996.29
[2017-02-03 12:17:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1385 @ 995.91
[2017-02-03 12:17:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 994.91
[2017-02-03 12:17:06] Ahhere : Now this is bitcoin
[2017-02-03 12:17:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 700 @ 994.74
[2017-02-03 12:17:31] -_- : Big discount on futures
[2017-02-03 12:17:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 140490 @ 994.34 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-02-03 12:17:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3340 @ 994.33
[2017-02-03 12:19:13] Noobz : and another 140k
[2017-02-03 12:19:33] bg5 : back up and I am happy further down and I buy more and I am 'happy?'
[2017-02-03 12:19:49] happy : what's up
[2017-02-03 12:19:53] Ahhere : Ffs missing my buy again by a dollar this time while im awake ninja plz
[2017-02-03 12:19:56] happy : I am happy
[2017-02-03 12:20:24] ross : Is it a good idea to short now?
[2017-02-03 12:20:52] Ahhere : ross: it just dropped you should have been short at 1020 but who knows there might be more juice to be squozen
[2017-02-03 12:21:18] Ahhere : *squozened
[2017-02-03 12:22:24] bg5 : can see it inch up to 1000 and drop again
[2017-02-03 12:23:09] bg5 : also up to 1030 possible, if it were easy we'd all be rich
[2017-02-03 12:23:41] Ahhere : bg5: wait u not rich bro? What about ur coin tech?
[2017-02-03 12:23:53] Noobz : we wouldn't be rich becasue there wouldn't be anyone to profit from
[2017-02-03 12:24:00] Nooby : lol dump is coming
[2017-02-03 12:24:24] Nooby : never 1000 again today
[2017-02-03 12:24:44] Ahhere : Nooby: omg lol i give it a half hour
[2017-02-03 12:24:58] Ahhere : tops
[2017-02-03 12:25:08] Nooby : you just have to see it dumps again
[2017-02-03 12:25:45] Ahhere : never say bieber @Nooby
[2017-02-03 12:25:51] Ahhere : *never
[2017-02-03 12:26:09] Noobz : bieber lol
[2017-02-03 12:26:13] Nooby : see !!995
[2017-02-03 12:26:49] Ahhere : Nooby: i stand correctd
[2017-02-03 12:28:12] itsfall : we going down
[2017-02-03 12:28:14] itsfall : yesss
[2017-02-03 12:28:30] itsfall : sell now, buy low :)
[2017-02-03 12:28:51] Nooby : yes that s it i think also
[2017-02-03 12:28:53] neox : I'm waiting for it
[2017-02-03 12:29:13] Ahhere : Nice time to be long funding wise sweet
[2017-02-03 12:30:13] Nooby : oupsss maybe time to buy again? oh nooooooo
[2017-02-03 12:31:38] Nooby : pfffff it pumps????
[2017-02-03 12:31:55] sleger : look at china guys
[2017-02-03 12:32:09] Nooby : and? they buy???
[2017-02-03 12:32:11] Avalanche : people learned to react to green hammer
[2017-02-03 12:32:16] Avalanche : :D
[2017-02-03 12:32:53] Nooby : Ahhere: maybe you were right....lets see if it will pump to 1030 but im pretty sure that it wont
[2017-02-03 12:33:18] espadon : what is " Settlement" ?
[2017-02-03 12:33:19] Nooby : i hope not lol
[2017-02-03 12:33:53] sleger : espadon: the black hole for positions
[2017-02-03 12:34:34] Avalanche : this was the second dump, it was weaker with higher low, clear as a sunny day :)
[2017-02-03 12:34:34] Ahhere : Nooby: would love to buy lower but even if it dumps a bit, it is going to ath before the etf result and then its gambling time. Im as certain as one can be. Which is not at all
[2017-02-03 12:34:54] espadon : sleger: the black hole ? can you explain me please
[2017-02-03 12:35:19] Avalanche : keep shorting
[2017-02-03 12:35:23] sleger : espadon: its something that sucks up your position and they totally disappear to never come back
[2017-02-03 12:36:30] espadon : sleger: ah ok, when this can happened ?
[2017-02-03 12:36:33] Ahhere : espadon: all these these derivative contracts have expiry dates(settlement) at which point fees are calculated and other costs which influence the instrument to pump or dump more than spot price
[2017-02-03 12:36:56] herpinator : nice volitility today
[2017-02-03 12:36:56] sleger : espadon: usually on fridays or end of quarters
[2017-02-03 12:37:19] Ahhere : do find in page contract details and click more details
[2017-02-03 12:37:27] espadon : Ahhere: ok thank you
[2017-02-03 12:37:31] espadon : sleger: ok thank you
[2017-02-03 12:37:37] Nooby : f*** liq price is 1015 stop buying guys ;p
[2017-02-03 12:39:14] neox : Nooby you are long :P
[2017-02-03 12:39:23] Nooby : Ahhere: OMG you really think that we will hit 1030???
[2017-02-03 12:39:40] Nooby : arrrgggggg
[2017-02-03 12:41:37] espadon : Ahhere: At settelment all position are closed ?
[2017-02-03 12:41:37] Nooby : ahhh yeaaahhhh
[2017-02-03 12:42:17] Ahhere : Nooby: yes we will IMO but f* knows you might get big dumpening first
[2017-02-03 12:42:42] Ahhere : espadon: no it rolls over but fees taken or added which can close positions if close to liquidation i believe
[2017-02-03 12:43:07] Ahhere : which fuels settlement pump/dump
[2017-02-03 12:43:08] guacamole : espadon: yeah you get paid out at current market rate, which is usually average price of the index market over an hour or so
[2017-02-03 12:44:12] espadon : guacamole: ok fuck :p
[2017-02-03 12:44:20] Ahhere : guacamole: but position stays open though unless fees liquidate u?
[2017-02-03 12:44:59] espadon : Ahhere: My position has been closed at 12:00
[2017-02-03 12:45:48] guacamole : Ahhere: unless bitmex is different, settlement usually means actual settlement - but if bitmex does something atypical i could be mistaken
[2017-02-03 12:46:16] BitMEX_Sam : Positions are closed at settlement.
[2017-02-03 12:47:12] BitMEX_Sam : See https://www.bitmex.com/app/exchangeGuide#Funding-and-Settlement
[2017-02-03 12:47:30] espadon : BitMEX_Sam: ok ok ... Painful Learning :p
[2017-02-03 12:50:41] Farzad : BitMEX_Sam: When does the next XBT future contract get opened ? after current one is closed ?
[2017-02-03 12:50:42] Ahhere : Oops I misunderstood perpetual swap and futures @espadon glad u asked
[2017-02-03 12:51:16] Farzad : I mean after current one is settled.
[2017-02-03 12:52:00] espadon : Does all exchanges function as bitmex?
[2017-02-03 12:52:39] Avalanche : no
[2017-02-03 12:52:46] BitMEX_Sam : Farzad: It will be opened two weeks before settlement.
[2017-02-03 12:52:49] -_- : Farzad new one opens 2 weeks before xbth17 closes
[2017-02-03 12:53:13] Farzad : -_-: Thanks bro :)
[2017-02-03 12:53:25] Farzad : BitMEX_Sam: Thanks
[2017-02-03 12:54:53] Farzad : I guess the closer we get to settlement date, XBTH17 will become less volatile. am I right ?
[2017-02-03 12:55:12] BitMEX_Sam : It should, but all futures on all markets are behaving strangely the last few weeks
[2017-02-03 12:55:34] BitMEX_Sam : We did a long post on it: https://blog.bitmex.com/bitcoin-backwardation/
[2017-02-03 12:56:02] BitMEX_Sam : espadon: No, we are quite unique; our unique mark pricing system, for instance, is what allows us to have such high leverage.
[2017-02-03 12:56:37] Farzad : BitMEX_Sam: I love your exchange but I wish your fees were lower
[2017-02-03 12:56:50] Farzad : I pay $15/million in forex exchange
[2017-02-03 12:57:17] Farzad : here we pay like $750/million if I am not mistaken
[2017-02-03 12:57:23] BitMEX_Sam : Yes, volumes on Bitcoin are much, much lower than forex so fees need to be higher to be viable
[2017-02-03 12:57:29] BitMEX_Sam : However we have a quite generous rebate if you make liquidity
[2017-02-03 12:58:01] BitMEX_Sam : Which would be $250/million rebate
[2017-02-03 12:58:25] Ahhere : BitMEX_Sam: are fees for hidden orders same as those visible in orderbook?
[2017-02-03 12:58:37] BitMEX_Sam : Hidden orders always pay the taker fee, but otherwise yes
[2017-02-03 12:58:53] BitMEX_Sam : There is no additional fee added.
[2017-02-03 12:59:08] espadon : BitMEX_Sam: ok ok
[2017-02-03 13:00:38] Farzad : BitMEX_Sam: Yes, Thats a good incentive. do u have any plans to lower your fees ? I am sure your trading volume has increased a lot after you have introduced 0.075% fee.
[2017-02-03 13:01:02] BitMEX_Sam : We have no such plans at the moment.
[2017-02-03 13:01:53] bg5 : Farzad: is that what forex exchange charge including the spread? am trying to learn other trading
[2017-02-03 13:03:04] Farzad : bg5: It depends, some brokers only charge on spreads but usually they have wider spreads. good ECN brokers have much tighter spreads but charge you a small commision.
[2017-02-03 13:03:11] rapidtrades : -0.18% next? oh hell no
[2017-02-03 13:03:28] rapidtrades : @sleger get in here
[2017-02-03 13:03:46] shery : Hi buddies
[2017-02-03 13:03:51] -_- : Up $20 on xbth17 nice bounce
[2017-02-03 13:04:05] guacamole : -.18% probably won't hold for 7 hours
[2017-02-03 13:04:08] BitMEX_Sam : Be nice rapidtrades
[2017-02-03 13:04:13] shery : rapidtrades: haha what happned
[2017-02-03 13:04:25] rapidtrades : just funding setting me off again
[2017-02-03 13:04:43] rapidtrades : my fault tho, i had a shot to get out
[2017-02-03 13:04:46] bg5 : the man is trying to silence you rapid
[2017-02-03 13:05:20] sleger : rapidtrades: I'm fine where I am
[2017-02-03 13:06:23] rapidtrades : man im trading so bad since october
[2017-02-03 13:06:33] rapidtrades : its a small miracle im only down slightly
[2017-02-03 13:06:43] sleger : Thats because you listen to the greek
[2017-02-03 13:07:52] rapidtrades : wtf u said don't short march at $14 premium
[2017-02-03 13:08:08] rapidtrades : we're now at $6 discount
[2017-02-03 13:08:54] rapidtrades : both of u have shitty records this year
[2017-02-03 13:11:21] Avalanche : if this pumps again, there will be blood here :)
[2017-02-03 13:11:50] rapidtrades : not really afaik almost noone here is outright short
[2017-02-03 13:11:54] rapidtrades : its mostly hedges
[2017-02-03 13:11:56] Avalanche : based on funding rate
[2017-02-03 13:12:07] rapidtrades : ah maybe, idiots do overreact
[2017-02-03 13:12:24] trat : is there contract holder data here like okcoin?
[2017-02-03 13:12:25] Tux26 : Avalanche: Absolutely agree with you. Only reason I am keeping my long still.
[2017-02-03 13:12:42] rapidtrades : for the 0.06% funding? @Tux26
[2017-02-03 13:12:48] Avalanche : Tux26: I'm perma bear, but I'm long hehe :)
[2017-02-03 13:12:57] Tux26 : Sure, it adds up
[2017-02-03 13:13:02] rapidtrades : u know that's like 60 cents right
[2017-02-03 13:13:17] Tux26 : well its percentual, so depends on the position :)
[2017-02-03 13:13:32] rapidtrades : OF THE PRICE
[2017-02-03 13:13:42] Tux26 : ok true
[2017-02-03 13:13:43] Avalanche : rapidtrades: it's more than 100$ for me so :)
[2017-02-03 13:14:01] Tux26 : exactly, free money if you expect more upside anyway
[2017-02-03 13:16:05] loomdart : hey guys
[2017-02-03 13:16:08] loomdart : why are we going up
[2017-02-03 13:16:18] loomdart : I thought we were menna flash crash to $400?????
[2017-02-03 13:16:26] Avalanche : lol
[2017-02-03 13:16:38] loomdart : oh wait
[2017-02-03 13:16:45] rapidtrades : loomdart: its 5xx
[2017-02-03 13:16:46] Noobz : somebody accidentally dropped a blue pill
[2017-02-03 13:16:54] loomdart : I know why we're going up
[2017-02-03 13:16:56] rapidtrades : the longer u pump this shit, the harder the crash
[2017-02-03 13:17:00] loomdart : BECAUSE IT'S A BULL MARKET LOL
[2017-02-03 13:17:09] rapidtrades : its a POS token noone uses for anything
[2017-02-03 13:17:15] Avalanche : loomdart: :) good one
[2017-02-03 13:17:32] rapidtrades : its like tesla selling 10 cars with 60 bil valuation
[2017-02-03 13:17:44] rapidtrades : both will crumble soon
[2017-02-03 13:17:49] Ahhere : rapidtrades: erm I use it for storing my monies?
[2017-02-03 13:17:55] loomdart : dude
[2017-02-03 13:17:57] loomdart : what the fuck
[2017-02-03 13:18:00] Tux26 : Bitcoin is not POS (Proof of Stake) anyway
[2017-02-03 13:18:00] rapidtrades : then ur a dummy @Ahhere
[2017-02-03 13:18:17] Ahhere : rapidtrades: 400% return dummy
[2017-02-03 13:18:34] rapidtrades : how much return did u have at start of 2015?
[2017-02-03 13:18:44] Ahhere : rapidtrades: dunno +ve
[2017-02-03 13:19:14] Ahhere : thats when i bought
[2017-02-03 13:19:19] rapidtrades : so how much of ur net worth is in bitcoin?
[2017-02-03 13:19:22] Avalanche : dump is over and price below 1k is history
[2017-02-03 13:19:23] rapidgains : you know what time it its guys?
[2017-02-03 13:19:30] rapidgains : time for some 'rapid gains'
[2017-02-03 13:19:37] Ahhere : rapidtrades: 1000.7%
[2017-02-03 13:20:23] loomdart : rapid gains?
[2017-02-03 13:20:23] Avalanche : cmon bitcorn few more for more rekts and popcorns
[2017-02-03 13:20:56] rapidgains : the best kind of gains
[2017-02-03 13:22:32] loomdart : why not slow high % gains that are stress free?
[2017-02-03 13:24:10] rapidgains : what are you some kinda of p*ssy
[2017-02-03 13:25:16] rapidtrades : US jobs in 5 mins
[2017-02-03 13:26:00] loomdart : yes I am a pussy
[2017-02-03 13:28:08] loomdart : what's wrong with slow gains
[2017-02-03 13:28:17] rapidgains : quarter hit 780
[2017-02-03 13:28:21] rapidgains : wow u guys are funny
[2017-02-03 13:28:29] rapidgains : 980*
[2017-02-03 13:28:45] trat : LAG!
[2017-02-03 13:29:07] loomdart : rapid trading is the number one killer of traders according to recent US polls
[2017-02-03 13:29:19] rapidgains : lol
[2017-02-03 13:29:35] loomdart : do you reckon warren buffet trades rapidly
[2017-02-03 13:29:40] loomdart : do you not want to be warren buffet?
[2017-02-03 13:29:48] loomdart : I see his poster on your wall
[2017-02-03 13:29:53] loomdart : why must you bring shame to him
[2017-02-03 13:30:41] rapidtrades : cmon bitcorns dump
[2017-02-03 13:30:46] rapidtrades : daddy needs a payday