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[2017-02-01 06:43:54] Ugly_Old_Goat : Or to the keep trying to pick a top?
[2017-02-01 06:45:06] LocoPoco Chatocho : If id knew id be a millionaire :| hehe
[2017-02-01 06:45:34] LocoPoco Chatocho : But we got some media attention today in some newspapers here and there
[2017-02-01 06:45:37] LocoPoco Chatocho : about bitcoin turning up again
[2017-02-01 06:45:52] Ugly_Old_Goat : Frankly we have ad the selloff so it is very possible we just go back to the highs and keep going. I am not saying we will, only we washed out all the weak hands so the market can just keep going up and have little or no selloff
[2017-02-01 06:45:59] LocoPoco Chatocho : But that usually is sign that big guys gonna take profit, so i dont fucking know.. :P
[2017-02-01 06:46:05] LocoPoco Chatocho : I hope so :D
[2017-02-01 06:46:55] Ugly_Old_Goat : There ;is not sign of weakness and if we break 50 dollars the;ir will be tremendous support.
[2017-02-01 06:46:58] LocoPoco Chatocho : Atleast last time we got huge media attention we dropped 20% marketcap in 1-2 days after :P
[2017-02-01 06:47:34] LocoPoco Chatocho : yes the fomo will only grow bigger from now on i think
[2017-02-01 07:33:42] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 121210 @ 974.14 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-02-01 07:34:33] Nerve : Here we go
[2017-02-01 07:34:46] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2000 @ 974.84
[2017-02-01 07:35:33] qwerti : Work for a bitcoin exchange here... on the ground user growth is massive right now. This is exchange buying for liquidity imo.
[2017-02-01 07:40:45] longbydefault : how many users is 'massive' and how many btc do the typical new customer buy in the first 1-2 months
[2017-02-01 07:51:29] Nerve : I don't thing is a semnificative amount for 85%
[2017-02-01 07:53:22] Noobz : Morning Peepz, Bots, REKT
[2017-02-01 08:01:09] LocoPoco Chatocho : finex big sells
[2017-02-01 08:01:22] LocoPoco Chatocho : dropped to 970, 971 again now
[2017-02-01 08:01:59] LocoPoco Chatocho : yes continuing to breaking down it seems
[2017-02-01 08:09:50] micmix : almost all big shorts are not naked shorts, they are hedges, at least on okc
[2017-02-01 08:11:11] micmix : people with lots of money are shorting on okc, that's why it's still in backwardation
[2017-02-01 08:13:30] micmix : you can read into it as much as you want, maybe it's insider knowledge or just people being cautious but I don't remember seeing backwardation on okc when bitcoin is going up
[2017-02-01 08:16:33] qwerti : longbydefault: the past two months, the number of users signing up and getting verified has increased 10%-30% on teh previous month. There is a similar growth in the amount of btc an individual user buys (shift from btc as a payment processor to an investment), plus there is higher expenditure through things like debit cards.
[2017-02-01 08:17:11] longbydefault : which country?
[2017-02-01 08:17:21] qwerti : Aus
[2017-02-01 08:17:38] longbydefault : ok thanks
[2017-02-01 08:17:41] qwerti : Which I would suggest should be lagging behind the US and Eur right now
[2017-02-01 08:22:30] micmix : okc volume bot is back! 500 btc sold without moving the price at all
[2017-02-01 08:22:58] LocoPoco Chatocho : Pboc not gonna be happy ;p
[2017-02-01 08:39:39] bg5 : Is there a way to roll over your contracts at settlement?
[2017-02-01 08:55:53] n0g4n0o : Good morning micmix and rado2. <3
[2017-02-01 08:56:00] n0g4n0o : How have you guys been?
[2017-02-01 09:16:19] micmix : I'm very glad that okc volume bot is back. Most likely it means that we will see okc pump/dump bot as well
[2017-02-01 09:23:27] n0g4n0o : How many people do you think are controlling the market?
[2017-02-01 09:23:32] n0g4n0o : Just a couple rich guys?
[2017-02-01 09:27:19] Kalman : n0g4n0o: only 2, supply and demand ;)
[2017-02-01 09:27:59] rapidtrades : micmix: sup homes
[2017-02-01 09:28:02] Kalman : rich guys get poor very quick if they dont stay friend with this 2
[2017-02-01 09:28:38] n0g4n0o : I haven't traded in like 3 weeks since the "Great Rekt of 2017"
[2017-02-01 09:28:53] longbydefault : micmix how do you know the bots are back on
[2017-02-01 09:29:41] micmix : rapidtrades: hallo
[2017-02-01 09:30:04] micmix : longbydefault: 500 btc sold in 1 min without moving the price even 5 cny
[2017-02-01 09:30:37] micmix : and 300 after that
[2017-02-01 09:30:50] longbydefault : can they do it again? i thought there were fees and other changes
[2017-02-01 09:31:07] j8 : pretty much has to be insiders now
[2017-02-01 09:31:21] micmix : if it's okc themselves why would they care about fees
[2017-02-01 09:31:25] micmix : ?
[2017-02-01 09:31:36] j8 : yep
[2017-02-01 09:32:38] micmix : and the price will drop with 20 btc sell
[2017-02-01 09:33:10] micmix : when it's regular trading
[2017-02-01 09:33:17] j8 : if you sold 500 now it would drop like 180 cny
[2017-02-01 09:33:47] lockhedge : they have to take care about taxes if this income generates profit, so the volume they can fake is limited
[2017-02-01 09:34:04] narnarfromnarnia : seems to be trading slower that's for sure
[2017-02-01 09:34:11] rapidtrades : the two leading exchanges are now open scams, okc and shitfinex
[2017-02-01 09:34:27] rapidtrades : it will be much harder to find the true market price
[2017-02-01 09:34:52] LocoPoco Chatocho : Localbitcoins :p haha
[2017-02-01 09:36:20] j8 : it's true, and the changes in china took away a lot of real liquidity, as well as fake
[2017-02-01 09:37:04] j8 : and there's less liquidity on all the other exchanges as a result
[2017-02-01 09:37:54] rapidtrades : time for a 100-200 flash crash
[2017-02-01 09:39:43] LocoPoco Chatocho : No lambo this year either! :D
[2017-02-01 09:40:11] LocoPoco Chatocho : Maybe its destiny... would have probably just crashed and killed myself :p
[2017-02-01 09:40:36] Ahhere : rapidtrades: for once I am with you. I would love to buy again so bring it on. However I am aware that this is very wishful thinking.
[2017-02-01 09:40:38] j8 : i got a fortune cookie that said this year i'm going to have to work hard in order to prosper
[2017-02-01 09:40:59] j8 : which is bullshit if you ask me
[2017-02-01 09:41:04] Ahhere : LocoPoco Chatocho: which lambo broski
[2017-02-01 09:41:14] rapidtrades : FOMC today
[2017-02-01 09:41:29] LocoPoco Chatocho : Ahhere: I want a red one! With atleast 800 HP!
[2017-02-01 09:41:46] rapidtrades : it will be a fun day
[2017-02-01 09:41:55] LocoPoco Chatocho : I just need BTC to go to 10000 dollar first so i can close my 3x long!
[2017-02-01 09:41:58] daniellayton : https://ripple.com/insights/bitstamp-now-trading-xrp/
[2017-02-01 09:46:14] rapidtrades : glad we are already back at discount...juts hrs after prices gained 5%
[2017-02-01 09:46:23] rapidtrades : sounds legit and totally not manipulated
[2017-02-01 09:47:47] PARAFFIN : rapidtrades: should that be funny because it _actually was_ manipulated?
[2017-02-01 09:48:42] rapidtrades : yes, for the slow ppl that was sarcasm
[2017-02-01 09:49:01] luckynuke : rapidtrades: ey boy
[2017-02-01 09:49:06] luckynuke : whaddup
[2017-02-01 09:49:46] rapidtrades : i knew I should've shorted march at 14...f*cking sleger and his perma-bullishness
[2017-02-01 09:49:55] Ahhere : LocoPoco Chatocho: 3x what are you an amateur?! 100x and you'll have your lambo 33 times faster!
[2017-02-01 09:50:28] LocoPoco Chatocho : Ahhere: Id be sleeping under a bridge 33 times faster :P
[2017-02-01 09:50:31] rapidtrades : micmix: do i short march?
[2017-02-01 09:50:33] LocoPoco Chatocho : Im a weak ass b :(
[2017-02-01 09:50:51] rapidtrades : move from swap to march i mean
[2017-02-01 09:51:01] Ahhere : rapidtrades: @LocoPoco Chatocho lol sleeping in your lambo maybe? bitter sweet
[2017-02-01 09:51:47] Ahhere : rapidtrades: FOMC won't change shit.
[2017-02-01 09:52:04] Ahhere : they need trump to do more crazy stuff before the crash can be blamed on him
[2017-02-01 09:54:32] Apocalyptic : Ahhere: Yellen can announce a surprise hike
[2017-02-01 09:54:48] Apocalyptic : will definitely change shit
[2017-02-01 09:54:52] rapidtrades : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-31/wont-end-well-china-skyscraper-edition
[2017-02-01 09:55:23] rapidtrades : Apocalyptic: odds of that are rly low, even march is 20%
[2017-02-01 09:55:38] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: hence "surprise"
[2017-02-01 09:55:54] rapidtrades : not gonna happen, Fed likes to prep markets
[2017-02-01 09:56:16] Apocalyptic : that's certainly been the case so far
[2017-02-01 09:56:36] rapidtrades : they may sound more hawkish today in the statement
[2017-02-01 09:58:19] micmix : rapidtrades: if you are simply hedging, switch to march
[2017-02-01 09:59:03] micmix : swap will get to negative premium very fast in down market, plus adl risk is higher
[2017-02-01 09:59:18] Ahhere : Apocalyptic: nope she won't do it. Its too hard to blame trump if she does it now. Almost ready to blow shit up but not quite. give it til summer I reckon
[2017-02-01 09:59:55] rapidtrades : micmix: not for me, down a lot on swap
[2017-02-01 10:00:07] rapidtrades : that's only reason why i hesitated
[2017-02-01 10:00:37] rapidtrades : why do u say that ADL risk is higher on swap?
[2017-02-01 10:00:53] rapidtrades : i thought bigger liqudity means less risk
[2017-02-01 10:01:08] j8 : of course it's higher, because it's not marked to market
[2017-02-01 10:01:19] rapidtrades : aaaah right
[2017-02-01 10:01:20] micmix : rapidtrades: more crazy people with big positions plus mark price way out
[2017-02-01 10:01:29] rapidtrades : agreed
[2017-02-01 10:01:35] micmix : scary combination
[2017-02-01 10:01:42] rapidtrades : the fund deplettes much faster
[2017-02-01 10:02:08] j8 : yeah and why not take a big position when you know you won't have to get out at a shitty discount / premium
[2017-02-01 10:02:23] LocoPoco Chatocho : Time to go 100x short :D ?
[2017-02-01 10:02:37] rapidtrades : also if ur taken out on swap there's no good way to get back in, cos mark is so f&cked
[2017-02-01 10:03:05] rapidtrades : march is marked to market right?
[2017-02-01 10:03:06] micmix : I wasn't adled on march on the way down from 1200 but my leverage was never higher than 2x. not sure maybe some people were adled
[2017-02-01 10:03:22] rapidtrades : wow that's amazing
[2017-02-01 10:03:27] micmix : yes, march is mid price
[2017-02-01 10:03:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 200 @ 968.74
[2017-02-01 10:04:04] rapidtrades : guess my thinking was way off here, i rly thought the liqudity helps re ADL
[2017-02-01 10:04:26] rapidtrades : cos ur position is smaler in relation to others
[2017-02-01 10:05:07] micmix : mark price $10-$20 off is the biggest contributor
[2017-02-01 10:05:21] Ahhere : LocoPoco Chatocho: funding is in your favour to go short.
[2017-02-01 10:05:29] bg5 : Is there a way to roll over your contracts at settlement?
[2017-02-01 10:05:30] rapidtrades : agree @micmix
[2017-02-01 10:05:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1000 @ 966.70
[2017-02-01 10:05:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 5555 @ 967.82
[2017-02-01 10:06:10] rapidtrades : well guess im not going to bed now
[2017-02-01 10:06:29] Ahhere : rapidtrades: thats the spirit. Pull up a chair and a redbull
[2017-02-01 10:06:38] rapidtrades : market decided to move all of a sudden
[2017-02-01 10:06:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 19700 @ 965.49
[2017-02-01 10:06:56] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 7294 @ 965.40
[2017-02-01 10:06:56] REKT : :btc: :soon: :toilet:
[2017-02-01 10:07:18] Ahhere : My rebuys are at 930s guise so any help appreciated
[2017-02-01 10:07:55] Noobz : 930s sounds good
[2017-02-01 10:08:24] LocoPoco Chatocho : Yes need to wipe out all longers down to 930-920ish before we can go up again now
[2017-02-01 10:08:37] LocoPoco Chatocho : no fomoers allowed onboard
[2017-02-01 10:08:39] LocoPoco Chatocho : :P
[2017-02-01 10:08:56] bg5 : had rebuys down to 935 but putting bottom at 950 now
[2017-02-01 10:09:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 671 @ 964.79
[2017-02-01 10:11:07] -_- : discount growing again on quarterly
[2017-02-01 10:11:18] -_- : not looking good for premium here either
[2017-02-01 10:11:54] -_- : anyone that longed last 12 hours is trapped
[2017-02-01 10:12:57] Plebian : rip
[2017-02-01 10:17:26] Nerve : i think $960 will be fine for first round
[2017-02-01 10:18:19] LocoPoco Chatocho : walls look fake af, dont think 960 gonna hold!
[2017-02-01 10:18:31] Nerve : another down round incoming
[2017-02-01 10:18:35] LocoPoco Chatocho : yep
[2017-02-01 10:18:51] Nerve : i think $950 will hold
[2017-02-01 10:19:11] LocoPoco Chatocho : well see about that :P
[2017-02-01 10:19:33] LocoPoco Chatocho : Im turning into a big stinking bear atm :D need a shower :P
[2017-02-01 10:19:58] micmix : the only way is up!
[2017-02-01 10:20:00] bg5 : reckon 960 will hold, even more confident about 950
[2017-02-01 10:20:38] bg5 : bounce back to 965 where it can rest until america is up
[2017-02-01 10:21:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 16000 @ 963.33
[2017-02-01 10:30:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 50719 @ 973.01 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-02-01 10:30:29] LocoPoco Chatocho : wtf
[2017-02-01 10:30:55] Nerve : omg
[2017-02-01 10:32:03] bg5 : they must of just gone short
[2017-02-01 10:32:52] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1164 @ 967.11
[2017-02-01 10:33:21] micmix : another 300 btc sell on okc
[2017-02-01 10:33:43] LocoPoco Chatocho : :D
[2017-02-01 10:33:55] bg5 : had to understand high leveraged shorts this close to $1,000, that number is a magnet
[2017-02-01 10:34:08] bg5 : hard*
[2017-02-01 10:34:10] micmix : one more day for pump bots to appear I guess, volatility will be back soon
[2017-02-01 10:35:04] bg5 : no matter the fee every market will have market making bots, only difference will be the spread
[2017-02-01 10:35:24] bg5 : bots likely had to be rewriten
[2017-02-01 10:36:34] micmix : bg5: it's not market making, I'm talking about pump bots with very high budget, like they don't care about losing lots of btc on a pump
[2017-02-01 10:37:25] micmix : it will be much easier to see now on okc, with very low regular trading volume
[2017-02-01 10:37:55] bg5 : that can be profitable too, to manipulate the market, but I dont think it's that big a problem
[2017-02-01 10:38:16] bg5 : likely only use those tatics to move prices +-5%
[2017-02-01 10:38:30] bg5 : if that
[2017-02-01 10:38:43] micmix : I liked those bots, pumping or dumping 200-300 cny in 10 min
[2017-02-01 10:39:06] micmix : it was boring without them
[2017-02-01 10:39:24] bg5 : Is there a way to roll over your contracts at settlement?
[2017-02-01 10:40:19] micmix : no automatic rollover but june will be listed 2 weeks before march expires so you can roll over
[2017-02-01 10:41:32] bg5 : ah thanks
[2017-02-01 10:42:41] LocoPoco Chatocho : gonna fall like a rock thru 960 now!
[2017-02-01 10:44:31] bg5 : maybe, but why you think that?
[2017-02-01 10:46:19] LocoPoco Chatocho : went up too fast. too many longers expecting 1000 now, they must be rekt! Too many people onboard the ship :P
[2017-02-01 10:48:34] bg5 : If enough people believe in a ship it doesn't need to float
[2017-02-01 10:49:08] Nerve : the bouth of you are right...
[2017-02-01 10:49:28] bg5 : Going to be a lot of talk about bitcoin this week in a lot of offices, about how it is going to break $1,000
[2017-02-01 10:49:45] Ahhere : So greedy right now. Making plenty on my cold storage coins, but its not the same if I'm not taking shorts money too :( come on 930s!!
[2017-02-01 10:49:52] LocoPoco Chatocho : Yep.. and last time we got that attention 1 month ago the marketcap dropped 20% the day after
[2017-02-01 10:50:05] Boontjie : bg5: Titanic :)
[2017-02-01 10:51:06] bg5 : oh if the price goes past $1,000 to $1,100, I will be shorting as I said $1,000 level is a magnet. both ways
[2017-02-01 10:51:09] kilrari : everyone expecting price to break 1000 are just bag holders for the institutional traders that have been in distribution phase for a while now
[2017-02-01 10:52:01] bg5 : traders love round numbers
[2017-02-01 10:53:50] Nerve : we need a new entry for the 1k
[2017-02-01 10:53:53] Nerve : right ?
[2017-02-01 10:55:16] bg5 : I kept most of my long open, and am reentering/increasing all the way down to 935
[2017-02-01 10:55:35] bg5 : will reduce if it falls below that
[2017-02-01 10:57:03] bg5 : while it is over bought (maybe) it just so close to $1,000 it will bring buyers out of the wood work
[2017-02-01 10:59:51] Ahhere : bg5: maybe 1000 is the new 100 bro
[2017-02-01 11:06:06] bg5 : there will always be a new 'whatever'
[2017-02-01 11:28:32] Nerve : looks like won't want to drop above $960
[2017-02-01 11:30:58] KyllingLolsson : Nerve: Where is ur drop target
[2017-02-01 11:35:38] Nerve : 955
[2017-02-01 11:36:33] Nerve : i think is realistic
[2017-02-01 11:37:30] KyllingLolsson : Thats my target too
[2017-02-01 11:37:33] rapidtrades : PAY DAY BITCHES
[2017-02-01 11:37:38] rapidtrades : WHERE'S THE GOAT NOW
[2017-02-01 11:39:30] Nerve : anyway....it should drop in nex hour
[2017-02-01 11:39:47] rapidtrades : YES IT SHOULD
[2017-02-01 11:42:10] KyllingLolsson : Drop RYT NOW
[2017-02-01 11:42:13] KyllingLolsson : plz
[2017-02-01 11:43:37] rapidtrades : PLz
[2017-02-01 11:43:42] Nerve : lol
[2017-02-01 11:44:50] bitmors : What are your stop losses for your shorts
[2017-02-01 11:48:35] n0g4n0o : Due to local laws, BitMEX is unable to service your country (US). We cannot accept deposits.
[2017-02-01 11:48:42] n0g4n0o : Make BitMex Great Again!
[2017-02-01 11:49:22] KyllingLolsson : n0g4n0o: VPN
[2017-02-01 11:49:24] n0g4n0o : I guess you guys don't like money. That's ok. I'll just spend it on weed then.
[2017-02-01 11:52:41] musta : if i use leverage 1x, i dont pay any funding rate, right or wrong ?
[2017-02-01 11:53:42] micmix : musta: wrong
[2017-02-01 11:54:43] micmix : n0g4n0o: Trump will fix this in executive order 132
[2017-02-01 11:55:28] micmix : US citizens have the right to lose their money wherever and whoever they want!
[2017-02-01 11:55:35] micmix : *however
[2017-02-01 11:56:08] rapidtrades : cmon bitcorns die already
[2017-02-01 11:57:21] KyllingLolsson : Never tought US would see fascism
[2017-02-01 11:57:30] KyllingLolsson : or... hopefully not
[2017-02-01 11:57:44] Ahhere : Noganoo!
[2017-02-01 11:59:04] rapidtrades : whaleZ kill bitcoin plz
[2017-02-01 11:59:16] rapidtrades : DO IT NAO
[2017-02-01 12:00:32] n0g4n0o : Hey Ahhere I missed you so much
[2017-02-01 12:01:02] rapidtrades : that was some shit payment
[2017-02-01 12:01:46] rapidtrades : and now it's 0 likely back to negative next 16h
[2017-02-01 12:02:34] micmix : Predicted Funding Rate -0.1686%
[2017-02-01 12:02:49] rapidtrades : oh hell no
[2017-02-01 12:04:09] micmix : it will change though, it's just first minute
[2017-02-01 12:12:38] micmix : getting a bit better: Predicted Funding Rate -0.0952% In 15 hours
[2017-02-01 12:14:47] rapidtrades : OH HELL NO MICMIX
[2017-02-01 12:30:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 3400 @ 6731.2
[2017-02-01 12:30:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 2000 @ 970.36
[2017-02-01 12:33:23] Ahhere : n0g4n0o: it hasnt been the same broseph
[2017-02-01 12:33:55] n0g4n0o : I can imagine, the liquidations must have been cut in half since Ieft.
[2017-02-01 12:33:57] Ahhere : micmix: where do you get predicted funding rate?
[2017-02-01 12:34:20] Ahhere : n0g4n0o: lol everything was cut in 1/4 nothign happening and even less in chatbox
[2017-02-01 12:34:21] Ahhere : thanks china
[2017-02-01 12:34:35] daniellayton : do these contracts expire after 7 days
[2017-02-01 12:34:50] n0g4n0o : Yeah I found that odd that they banned me for talking to much in here when nobody else was talking.
[2017-02-01 12:35:47] KyllingLolsson : n0g4n0o: You know you're a wierdo
[2017-02-01 12:35:56] daniellayton : hay do you know if my contracts will expire after 7 days , im a long term invester
[2017-02-01 12:36:20] KyllingLolsson : daniellayton: try xbth17 instead
[2017-02-01 12:36:34] KyllingLolsson : Or Mar 31
[2017-02-01 12:36:57] daniellayton : indefinitely
[2017-02-01 12:37:34] daniellayton : nightmare i need long term leverage on ripple
[2017-02-01 12:40:24] micmix : Ahhere: hover over funding rate below order controls to see predicted rate
[2017-02-01 12:43:16] -_- : price dumps so slowly
[2017-02-01 12:51:51] KyllingLolsson : I want the InstaDump
[2017-02-01 12:52:03] -_- : 5% in 30 seconds
[2017-02-01 12:52:11] -_- : massive rekts
[2017-02-01 12:52:24] billyboy402 : daniellayton: you can only do that with spot on polo
[2017-02-01 12:56:51] Ahhere : micmix: thanks
[2017-02-01 13:10:53] daniellayton : trump n dump
[2017-02-01 13:29:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 80 @ 0.011160
[2017-02-01 13:48:47] KyllingLolsson : This is boring
[2017-02-01 13:51:31] KyllingLolsson : Dont think this will dump
[2017-02-01 13:53:35] Ahhere : Agreed @KyllingLolsson until the etf announcement. No dump = pump.
[2017-02-01 13:54:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 290 @ 0.010900
[2017-02-01 13:54:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 30 @ 0.010890
[2017-02-01 13:55:44] -_- : rofl eth
[2017-02-01 13:56:41] -_- : 180 btc holding up the price
[2017-02-01 14:00:36] -_- : more like 350 btc
[2017-02-01 14:01:46] -_- : someone should market dump 30,000 eth on poloniex for the lulz
[2017-02-01 14:05:08] -_- : unless this is the fake out down before the big pump
[2017-02-01 14:41:20] KyllingLolsson : Think it will go up a bit
[2017-02-01 14:43:34] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/nNmybWCe/ yuan btc premium in usd crashed 20 usd in a few hours.
[2017-02-01 14:46:22] KyllingLolsson : maybe just 10 usd up
[2017-02-01 14:46:26] KyllingLolsson : then down
[2017-02-01 15:25:27] bg5 : Was hoping btc would find support above 935 in prep for a push past $1,000, but seems to be support at 960 which is great
[2017-02-01 15:25:58] bg5 : a push past 1000 and with momentum maybe to 1050 seems likely within a week
[2017-02-01 15:26:18] bg5 : although could see 960 again next week
[2017-02-01 15:26:43] aethlios : bg5: no volume, this move up is funny.
[2017-02-01 15:27:38] bg5 : no volume? seems like volume to me, you are not comparing it to pre fees volume are you? that would be a mistake
[2017-02-01 15:29:00] aethlios : bg5: I am not looking china spot, finex okcoin futures had 70 to 90 usd daily with volume below 22 average and 50 average.
[2017-02-01 15:30:06] aethlios : such big move up with small volume, I still believe we are in a relief rally and bear trend will resume.
[2017-02-01 15:30:46] sleger : bear trend ? seriously ?
[2017-02-01 15:31:07] bg5 : didn't understand first msg, but as to a bear thread, what timescale you looking at?
[2017-02-01 15:31:15] aethlios : sleger: yes below 700
[2017-02-01 15:31:27] sleger : well I know thats where your bids are
[2017-02-01 15:31:38] sleger : but its not because they are there that the price has to get there
[2017-02-01 15:31:51] sleger : that would be convenient though
[2017-02-01 15:31:54] bg5 : It may go down of course, even to 700, but we are not in a bear thread
[2017-02-01 15:32:05] sleger : bg5: we are not in a thread
[2017-02-01 15:32:42] bg5 : lol didnt notice that thanks
[2017-02-01 15:33:06] KyllingLolsson : How about the weekly stochastic, its bearish
[2017-02-01 15:33:27] KyllingLolsson : It will never make it past ath
[2017-02-01 15:33:49] KyllingLolsson : Not for a long while. Ofc this is long term
[2017-02-01 15:34:44] aethlios : https://www.tradingview.com/x/AwK8bKz3/ Looks relief rally to me.
[2017-02-01 15:35:35] sleger : looks like a 5y old drawing on a chart
[2017-02-01 15:35:39] sleger : :p
[2017-02-01 15:37:19] Ugly_Old_Goat : rapidtrades: I am here. Thank you for support
[2017-02-01 15:42:28] Rado2 : aethlios: there is no reason why BTC will go all the way back to $600s
[2017-02-01 15:42:28] aethlios : sleger: it is simple so even a 5 year child can see we go down soon.
[2017-02-01 15:43:42] sleger : if it breaks 975 then you're wrong ?
[2017-02-01 15:44:31] Ugly_Old_Goat : We need a flash sell off to take out the underfunded Johnny come latelies that have been buying here
[2017-02-01 15:45:14] aethlios : Rado2: why not?? will segwit be accepted? will btc fork? fees going up, can you pay for a coffee now? alts expanding. china volumes dead etc.
[2017-02-01 15:45:48] Rado2 : aethlios: all the things you listed are actually not a problem
[2017-02-01 15:45:56] Ugly_Old_Goat : btc is blockchain
[2017-02-01 15:45:56] Rado2 : BTC is going up not because of China volumes
[2017-02-01 15:45:58] aethlios : sleger: we don't know how much manipulators will retrace it.
[2017-02-01 15:46:04] Rado2 : Alt coins have no chance at the moment
[2017-02-01 15:46:27] Rado2 : BTC is simply the only coin that has practical use and 1000s of applications are build on top of the network
[2017-02-01 15:46:41] sleger : you meant ETH ?
[2017-02-01 15:46:45] aethlios : Rado2: if btc can't adopt to increasing demand, the market will find a new coin.
[2017-02-01 15:46:55] Rado2 : aethlios: if
[2017-02-01 15:47:05] bg5 : eth has more uses, but bitcoin is known by my mother
[2017-02-01 15:47:10] Rado2 : the technology has proven every time that a solution will be found
[2017-02-01 15:47:28] bg5 : A currency is just something enough people believe in
[2017-02-01 15:47:41] Rado2 : ETH has more uses?
[2017-02-01 15:47:45] Rado2 : you must be kidding
[2017-02-01 15:47:46] aethlios : ok so segwit will be accepted? if not? BTU will fork it?
[2017-02-01 15:48:01] bg5 : eth is only a currency as an afterthought it's main function is a platform
[2017-02-01 15:48:56] bg5 : already a lot of diverse app built on top of eth, not much on bitcoin, but bitcoin doesnt need much
[2017-02-01 15:49:19] bg5 : it is a store of wealth that is enough to be a trillion dollar business
[2017-02-01 15:49:21] Rado2 : bg5: you are missing a big part. Bitcoun apps are live and real companies with revenue
[2017-02-01 15:49:24] Rado2 : ETH apps are not
[2017-02-01 15:49:43] Rado2 : Bitcoin network can do all that ETH can
[2017-02-01 15:49:51] bg5 : btc 80+% chance of success eth 60+% chance, I am invested in both
[2017-02-01 15:49:52] Rado2 : smart contracts are coming to BTC as well
[2017-02-01 15:50:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 615 @ 968.49
[2017-02-01 15:50:14] Rado2 : why would I pick a network with problems?
[2017-02-01 15:50:22] Rado2 : BTC has proven itself
[2017-02-01 15:50:31] ronensinger : Rado2: What's up radio?
[2017-02-01 15:50:34] bg5 : bitcoin can do all, smart are coming. which is it can or does all ready
[2017-02-01 15:50:34] ronensinger : rado
[2017-02-01 15:50:38] sleger : Rado2: "Bitcoun apps are live and real companies with revenue" which bitcoun apps ?
[2017-02-01 15:51:10] Rado2 : BitPay
[2017-02-01 15:51:13] Rado2 : Bitwage
[2017-02-01 15:51:23] Rado2 : a ton of payment services
[2017-02-01 15:51:30] sleger : all around payments
[2017-02-01 15:51:35] sleger : which cost 1$ per transaction
[2017-02-01 15:51:37] bg5 : btc is not flexible to do what eth is trying to do and it never will be. but they will both be successful because btc not competing with eth and eth cant beat btc as currency
[2017-02-01 15:51:42] sleger : and a 30 min wait time at best
[2017-02-01 15:52:16] sleger : POS will surpass POW from all perspectives
[2017-02-01 15:52:17] Rado2 : BitGo
[2017-02-01 15:52:24] ronensinger : Rado2: how is your market making bot going?
[2017-02-01 15:52:35] .. : 30 min "at best", lel, last time i looked block was every 10 mins
[2017-02-01 15:52:44] bg5 : bitcoin biggest risk is a 3rd crypto, maybe one built on eth. but btc has first mover advantage so I reckon it will win
[2017-02-01 15:52:56] sleger : ..: and everyone asks for 3 blocks mister "lel"
[2017-02-01 15:53:20] .. : i can name 30 popular bitcoin casinos that require 1 conf
[2017-02-01 15:53:31] sleger : go ahead
[2017-02-01 15:53:47] .. : dont wanna spam here, but im sure u get the idea, only some exchanges require more than 1 conf
[2017-02-01 15:53:55] sleger : no please go ahead
[2017-02-01 15:53:59] sleger : in 1 post, no spam
[2017-02-01 15:54:08] sleger : most exchanges require 3 conf
[2017-02-01 15:55:01] .. : pretty sure thebitcoinstrip.com already has 30 lists, too lazy to copy paste. no casino requires more than 1 conf
[2017-02-01 15:56:03] sleger : almost all my transactions require 3 conf and 30-60 min wait time
[2017-02-01 15:56:13] sleger : but then im not a penny gambler addict
[2017-02-01 15:56:25] sleger : maybe that's the population bitcoin is attracting
[2017-02-01 15:56:58] .. : meh trading is pretty much P2P gambling with a skill part in it
[2017-02-01 15:57:37] rapidgains : at least you have an edge
[2017-02-01 15:57:53] sleger : smart contract casinos on eth are coming with no house edge
[2017-02-01 15:58:07] .. : true rapid
[2017-02-01 15:58:34] .. : there are already such ETH apps.. only no one uses it
[2017-02-01 15:59:35] sleger : yes because there are still much more btc users, but that might change over time
[2017-02-01 16:01:41] .. : could be, I do find that "technical experiment aspect" of ETH interesting
[2017-02-01 16:02:40] yungyang : someone said it'll be a 3rd coin, I agree with that, ETH like type, ETH as a brand is always going to struggle
[2017-02-01 16:03:15] yungyang : but the fact that the ETH model is built to create and produce is undeniably the best thing for blockchain
[2017-02-01 16:03:52] yungyang : exp, ubiq something like that
[2017-02-01 16:04:05] yungyang : not necessarily either one
[2017-02-01 16:08:37] yungyang : china whale took profit
[2017-02-01 16:14:13] bg5 : yungyang: source?
[2017-02-01 16:14:29] yungyang : eh
[2017-02-01 16:14:33] yungyang : whale calls on twitter
[2017-02-01 16:14:46] yungyang : decreased position, top 3 and 2 contract holders
[2017-02-01 16:14:51] yungyang : small reductions
[2017-02-01 16:16:20] bg5 : number increase, very slightly
[2017-02-01 16:16:30] bg5 : *number 1
[2017-02-01 16:16:30] sleger : top 2 in creased
[2017-02-01 16:16:42] sleger : 2 97,975 2 92,962
[2017-02-01 16:16:52] bg5 : 2 and 3 decrease accord to whalecalls
[2017-02-01 16:17:43] sleger : well you can see for yourself at 0kcoin
[2017-02-01 16:17:50] sleger : whale needs glasses
[2017-02-01 16:17:52] yungyang : id rather blindly follow
[2017-02-01 16:18:55] bg5 : blindly following is easier, I'm in
[2017-02-01 16:19:23] sleger : I can see where the edge comes from in trading vs gambling
[2017-02-01 16:24:01] abbey : guys, do you see the moon?
[2017-02-01 16:26:03] -_- : a lot of contracts opening up on xbth17
[2017-02-01 16:26:12] -_- : i like how they wait till it's no longer at a discount to open a long
[2017-02-01 16:27:35] abbey : soon
[2017-02-01 16:55:29] bg5 : could be a day or 2 of 950-970 but I reckon it will break high and go above 1050
[2017-02-01 17:02:17] -_- : you convinced me. 100x long
[2017-02-01 17:03:09] bg5 : and.... it's gone
[2017-02-01 17:07:30] -_- : yay new 0kcoin quarterly high
[2017-02-01 17:07:37] -_- : and xbth17 here shoots up
[2017-02-01 17:07:51] -_- : still $11 discount on 0kc
[2017-02-01 17:45:47] Papou : http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/policy/rbi-says-it-hasnt-authorised-use-of-bitcoins-flags-risks/articleshow/56921659.cms
[2017-02-01 17:45:51] Papou : india gonna ban btc
[2017-02-01 17:49:48] bg5 : did you read your own link? nothing about banning it, just seem to be warning people about risks of using it
[2017-02-01 17:49:55] anonymous123421 : Papou: All they've said is to be careful when using BTC, this is exactly what the PBoC says.
[2017-02-01 18:02:11] Ahhere : Dont use it is the best advertisement
[2017-02-01 18:02:25] Ahhere : obama tried to diss crypto by saying it is like having a swiss bank in your pocket
[2017-02-01 18:02:27] Ahhere : advertisement much
[2017-02-01 18:15:14] LocoPoco Chatocho : So many people called today its not even funny
[2017-02-01 18:15:26] LocoPoco Chatocho : but i guess its part of the game :P
[2017-02-01 18:19:53] -_- : nice xbth17 new high
[2017-02-01 18:20:45] LocoPoco Chatocho : ya bulls got more steam than i thought.. so impossible to predict atm
[2017-02-01 18:39:45] -_- : eth/btc new low
[2017-02-01 18:43:49] rapidgains : what do you mean
[2017-02-01 18:43:53] rapidgains : this is going to hit 1k
[2017-02-01 18:44:03] rapidgains : not a matter of if, but when
[2017-02-01 18:51:32] RoftheN : hi
[2017-02-01 18:52:25] bg5 : my heard about bitcoin going near $1,000 today, he not into crypto
[2017-02-01 18:52:47] bg5 : it will go $1,000 this week, 90% sure
[2017-02-01 18:52:59] RoftheN : oh
[2017-02-01 18:53:00] RoftheN : 90% sure
[2017-02-01 18:53:04] RoftheN : That sounds like a lot
[2017-02-01 18:53:07] RoftheN : better put all my savings in
[2017-02-01 18:58:48] Shaman : maybe 955 then back up to 1000+
[2017-02-01 18:59:10] Shaman : but who knows
[2017-02-01 19:00:08] Sultan Pepper : ^^somebody's short
[2017-02-01 19:00:33] -_- : wonder if there will be some sort of eth/btc flash crash on polo
[2017-02-01 19:00:36] Shaman : someone is always short, and someone else is always long :p
[2017-02-01 19:01:05] Sultan Pepper : Hahaha true that
[2017-02-01 19:02:09] Sultan Pepper : Except for last weekend, I was getting the feeling there were no contracts open...
[2017-02-01 19:02:35] Shaman : I agree that 1k is eventual again though
[2017-02-01 19:02:48] Shaman : Sultan Pepper: that is true..
[2017-02-01 19:06:22] rapidtrades : all the newbebes are calling for 1k again @sleger
[2017-02-01 19:06:32] sleger : rapidtrades: I know im closing my long
[2017-02-01 19:07:31] LocoPoco Chatocho : ^this
[2017-02-01 19:07:34] LocoPoco Chatocho : too much fomo and hype
[2017-02-01 19:07:41] LocoPoco Chatocho : 1 month ago when that happened 20% marketcap gone next day :p
[2017-02-01 19:07:51] sleger : last time premium wasnt negative
[2017-02-01 19:10:05] rapidtrades : so the specs are betting on down while the newbebes are calling for 1k?
[2017-02-01 19:11:00] sleger : I will remain long still because that premium isnt high enough to short
[2017-02-01 19:11:01] bingbongfly : I bet for sideways, I win
[2017-02-01 19:11:04] rapidgains : lets just remember who has been short since 900
[2017-02-01 19:11:21] sleger : papou
[2017-02-01 19:11:24] rapidtrades : FOMC was a dud
[2017-02-01 19:12:24] rapidgains : sleger: has se spoken since?
[2017-02-01 19:12:38] rapidgains : he*
[2017-02-01 19:12:46] sleger : probably on every 3$ down move
[2017-02-01 19:12:53] rapidgains : lol
[2017-02-01 19:13:19] sleger : fscomeau : "AMZN $AMZN is about to massively crater:" => LONG LONG AMZN
[2017-02-01 19:16:54] bg5 : wasn't the 20% fall from 1150? 1000 FOMO is different from ath fomo
[2017-02-01 19:17:28] rapidtrades : whatever u say bg5
[2017-02-01 19:17:49] rapidtrades : guise the numbers weren't exactly the same last time so its different
[2017-02-01 19:18:02] rapidtrades : THIS TIME ITS DIFFERENT : BG5
[2017-02-01 19:18:56] bg5 : I am not betting that we will rise non stop I am betting $1,000 acts like a magnet and the closer we get to it the more likely we are to get pulled to it
[2017-02-01 19:19:14] bg5 : same is true other side
[2017-02-01 19:19:25] rapidtrades : do u understand the term 'bear market' son?
[2017-02-01 19:19:28] rapidtrades : DO U?
[2017-02-01 19:19:41] bg5 : do you think we are in a bear market?
[2017-02-01 19:19:50] bg5 : on what time frame
[2017-02-01 19:20:11] bg5 : I don't see one that backs up that claim
[2017-02-01 19:20:27] rapidtrades : on my timeframe b1tch
[2017-02-01 19:20:34] bg5 : maybe on 1day chart we are possible leaving bull
[2017-02-01 19:21:14] bg5 : but all others we are still bull and have been for half a year
[2017-02-01 19:21:33] rapidtrades : ok
[2017-02-01 19:22:19] rapidtrades : ur right chart say bull
[2017-02-01 19:23:23] rapidtrades : man im hungry all day, already ate twice wtf
[2017-02-01 19:23:39] -_- : better hit up webmd. sounds like you got a problem
[2017-02-01 19:24:01] bg5 : If we werent this close to $1,000 I would of sold all ready
[2017-02-01 19:30:16] rapidtrades : sleger: if u had a significant portion of ur capital in btc, would u still trade this aggressive? selling high premiums and buying low premiums ?
[2017-02-01 19:30:35] sleger : sure why not ?
[2017-02-01 19:32:02] rapidgains : at least rapid gets 0.011%
[2017-02-01 19:32:13] rapidtrades : cos it sounds risky as hell
[2017-02-01 19:37:40] sleger : aapl 130, completely closed my long
[2017-02-01 19:39:02] rapidtrades : sleger: how much did u lose on ZEC in total?
[2017-02-01 19:39:14] sleger : 15 to 20 not sure
[2017-02-01 19:39:28] rapidtrades : btc or 1,000s?
[2017-02-01 19:39:34] rapidtrades : guess its the same :)
[2017-02-01 19:39:34] sleger : btc
[2017-02-01 19:39:48] rapidtrades : ok so not too bad
[2017-02-01 19:40:36] rapidtrades : sleger: do u know smth about the index change? hope they're not bringing back finex
[2017-02-01 19:40:40] sleger : no but really poor trading there. The first loss (~10) was fine cause i let my short get margin called quickly so that's ok, but after I sucked
[2017-02-01 19:41:08] sleger : No, I think they were planning to change the jpy index but that was a while back
[2017-02-01 19:41:46] rapidtrades : i got the impression they want to boot out okc cos their volume cratered
[2017-02-01 19:53:49] -_- : damn eth fake out down is done. now it's pumping
[2017-02-01 19:59:08] Raknid : yup
[2017-02-01 20:07:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 6 @ 0.004200
[2017-02-01 20:07:59] -_- : 420!!
[2017-02-01 20:14:22] aethlios : sleger: https://www.tradingview.com/x/PdWXkgtI/
[2017-02-01 20:18:35] -_- : i do wish that would happen
[2017-02-01 20:19:01] LocoPoco Chatocho : why would anyone long at this level
[2017-02-01 20:19:39] YOLOCOIN : greed
[2017-02-01 20:19:48] 24hourz : Fomo and go long on levrage
[2017-02-01 20:20:40] LocoPoco Chatocho : sub 800one more time before 1k
[2017-02-01 20:20:45] LocoPoco Chatocho : createa nice double bottom
[2017-02-01 20:22:32] 24hourz : 30 min cup and handle . going up
[2017-02-01 20:22:54] rapidgains : 24hourz: what
[2017-02-01 20:22:58] rapidgains : what cup and handle
[2017-02-01 20:24:29] bg5 : yea I see cup and handle, still only 30 mins scale so not that confident, worth increasing position though
[2017-02-01 20:24:38] rapidgains : i dont see it
[2017-02-01 20:25:08] bg5 : ah I looking at bitfinex clearer there
[2017-02-01 20:25:26] rapidgains : oh
[2017-02-01 20:26:03] 24hourz : traditional markets i'd say we need to wait for longer time frames. Im very bullish for the giant 3 year cup and handle we are in. In bitcoin I'd say even 15min charts sometimes show strong enough trends
[2017-02-01 20:31:50] rapidgains : im not a fan of patterns on low timeframes, but if you have success with it nice
[2017-02-01 20:36:17] 24hourz : I really think we need to get closer to 1k before we dip harder. When btc runs it really takes off quik
[2017-02-01 20:36:17] 24hourz : quick
[2017-02-01 20:36:26] aethlios : no new major pump will start before new quarterly is live, so down or small moves until mig march.
[2017-02-01 20:36:47] aethlios : mid march
[2017-02-01 20:38:21] -_- : lol sure
[2017-02-01 20:39:50] -_- : china waking up soon
[2017-02-01 20:41:56] sleger : aethlios: so your bids @ 400 ?
[2017-02-01 20:43:13] aethlios : sleger: I wait 400 for a net long bargain position, will keep trading spreads.
[2017-02-01 20:43:33] sleger : I think you might wait forever
[2017-02-01 20:45:06] Adriana : XMR may start mooning soon
[2017-02-01 20:45:38] rapidgains : aethlios: are you MikeHunt?
[2017-02-01 20:45:44] aethlios : very possible, but quarterly diped 30 usd below ema 200, this was bad, market now has a relief rally, suckers rally in my opinion. 400 for china dead volume and Scalability issues unsolved.
[2017-02-01 20:45:48] MikeHunt : rapidgains: is he?