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[2017-01-30 21:09:00] BTCDJS : EVER
[2017-01-30 21:09:04] jimi : does it mean that if in this situation the trade go up more then 1% and you are short you trade is over ?
[2017-01-30 21:09:18] jimi : I won t but I m just trying to get the mecanism
[2017-01-30 21:09:52] BTCDJS : use the calculator to play around with different scenarios
[2017-01-30 21:10:05] jimi : You need to cover your lost a some point
[2017-01-30 21:10:08] RocketScience : yes...even less than 1% because ou get liquidated before your margin reaches 0%
[2017-01-30 21:10:09] BTCDJS : top left above order box
[2017-01-30 21:10:54] jimi : okay thanks
[2017-01-30 21:11:32] BTCDJS : jimi: the calc is very clever. It shows you Liquidation as well as potential profit an you can select different leverage etc etc
[2017-01-30 21:11:50] BTCDJS : jimi: did you find it?
[2017-01-30 21:12:38] jimi : I did thanks I might come with more questions :)
[2017-01-30 21:12:58] BTCDJS : jimi: in "quantity" it is asking for how many contracts. Each contract is worth $1
[2017-01-30 21:13:13] BTCDJS : this is a derivatives exchange
[2017-01-30 21:13:52] BTCDJS : you are not actually buying or selling your BTC. You are using it to be which direction the price will move
[2017-01-30 21:14:21] BTCDJS : bet*
[2017-01-30 21:18:09] jimi : and can you get out of the position any time ?
[2017-01-30 21:19:24] RocketScience : yes
[2017-01-30 21:20:04] BTCDJS : jimi: yes all you do is this; If you are long 1000 contracts at 15X then all you do is go short 1000 contracts at 15X
[2017-01-30 21:20:18] -_- : btc might break down from here
[2017-01-30 21:21:31] RocketScience : you can go directly to shorting if you sell more than you bought
[2017-01-30 21:25:58] jimi : Okay I think I understood basically you need to take the oposite traade to close you positions
[2017-01-30 21:26:34] RocketScience : if you bought 1000 apples, you then sell 1000
[2017-01-30 21:26:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETC7D`: buy 8450 @ 0.001457
[2017-01-30 21:27:24] BTCDJS : yeah so @jimi say you are long 1000 contracts and you want to quickly change to a 1000 contracts short, then you go short 2000. 1000 to close long. the other 1000 will open a short
[2017-01-30 21:27:54] jimi : and these apple will either be smaller or bigger :) but there still be 1000 of them
[2017-01-30 21:28:23] RocketScience : you have a close button, where you set the price where your position will be closed, or you can market sell in panic
[2017-01-30 21:28:44] RocketScience : on your open position
[2017-01-30 21:42:37] jimi : ok I have just tried with 1$ it seams to work okay ... what are the % fees on each trade buying and selling? Are you going to pay more if you keep your trade longer as you would when margin trading?
[2017-01-30 21:44:41] BitMEX_Sam : That depends on what you trade. There are 8-hour funding rates on the swap, which emulate futures basis; those and all other rates are listed at https://www.bitmex.com/app/fees
[2017-01-30 21:45:06] RocketScience : Please read the Swaps and futures guide...and learn about what each of these two are
[2017-01-30 21:45:12] BitMEX_Sam : On futures, the fees are very simple; 0.075% for taking liquidity, a rebate of 0.025% for making it
[2017-01-30 21:45:25] RocketScience : https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide
[2017-01-30 21:45:35] RocketScience : that's for xbt/usd swap...
[2017-01-30 21:45:41] RocketScience : all other things are futures
[2017-01-30 21:45:49] RocketScience : https://www.bitmex.com/app/futuresGuide
[2017-01-30 21:47:59] jimi : thanks
[2017-01-30 21:49:04] RocketScience : https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/okcoin/ltccny
[2017-01-30 21:49:20] RocketScience : at last we got a buywall
[2017-01-30 21:50:02] -_- : where we're going...we dont need buy walls
[2017-01-30 21:50:17] RocketScience : jimi: Combined orderbook of all bitcoin exchanges http://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/books/USD
[2017-01-30 21:51:22] -_- : i'm waiting for the day china stops selling hundreds of thousands of LTC so price can moon
[2017-01-30 21:59:26] cookielito : interesting to see the futures at a steep discount
[2017-01-30 21:59:57] RocketScience : my body is ready
[2017-01-30 22:00:03] RocketScience : -_-:
[2017-01-30 22:00:32] cookielito : for RCOKET TUU DA MOONZ?
[2017-01-30 22:00:44] RocketScience : YES
[2017-01-30 22:00:54] RocketScience : we are talking about moonrock!
[2017-01-30 22:00:56] cookielito : me too brudda
[2017-01-30 22:06:17] -_- : btc dumping
[2017-01-30 22:06:37] -_- : so weird. 0kcoin spot dumping but xbth17 is still high
[2017-01-30 22:07:37] RocketScience : so it begins!
[2017-01-30 22:07:54] RocketScience : 2.30 hours for start of signallin
[2017-01-30 22:08:41] rapidgains : lol
[2017-01-30 22:15:30] -_- : btc hasnt been this low in 3 1/2 days
[2017-01-30 22:16:36] -_- : i'm hedging by longing ltc
[2017-01-30 22:19:03] -_- : etc still going up
[2017-01-30 22:20:30] asdfasdf : wtf is chiana dooing?
[2017-01-30 22:21:59] rapidgains : some guy auto-selling 0.2-0.4 btc every 30 seconds for past few hours
[2017-01-30 22:23:35] rapidgains : other than that, not much
[2017-01-30 22:24:38] rapidgains : the spread on okcoin is retarded
[2017-01-30 22:25:36] rapidgains : 6320-6370 lmao
[2017-01-30 22:25:36] BodyGuard : Might be the mtgox bot, didnt it do the opposite and buy 10btc every few minutes
[2017-01-30 22:26:35] -_- : btc 4 day low on 0kcoin. longers gonna get rekt
[2017-01-30 22:30:42] aethlios : grexit fears are back in the surface.
[2017-01-30 22:38:13] -_- : what's nice about ltc 0kcoin big walls is that someone almost always eats them
[2017-01-30 22:43:09] -_- : that eth pump was a fail. dumped back down and lower
[2017-01-30 22:44:35] cryptokoala : ltc to moon ?
[2017-01-30 22:45:44] -_- : 88 cny incoming for LTC
[2017-01-30 22:46:08] -_- : $12.79
[2017-01-30 22:46:41] -_- : 0.014 LTC/BTC
[2017-01-30 22:47:08] cryptokoala : it's lit :)
[2017-01-30 22:47:20] -_- : sucks settlement here is every week
[2017-01-30 22:47:29] -_- : so lets hope it pumps to 88 cny by friday
[2017-01-30 22:47:46] -_- : 7000% return on 33.3x
[2017-01-30 22:48:14] rullwull : ltc pump may fail in one or two hours
[2017-01-30 22:48:37] cryptokoala : y u think so ?
[2017-01-30 22:48:57] Tetsuo : 2017 is year of the chicken in china, soooo waht did you expect
[2017-01-30 22:48:58] -_- : segwit may be like 18% and people dump
[2017-01-30 22:49:13] -_- : gotta give it 2 weeks and it might hit 75%
[2017-01-30 22:50:14] Ugly_Old_Goat : nice paydays coming again in swap. thank yo shorts for feeding my family
[2017-01-30 22:50:16] rapidtrades : the short rapage continues
[2017-01-30 22:50:28] rapidtrades : but that's all cool according to bitmex_sam
[2017-01-30 22:50:41] rapidtrades : swap working as it should
[2017-01-30 22:50:50] Ugly_Old_Goat : Buy under spot and get paid for bagholding, only at btimes
[2017-01-30 22:51:33] rullwull : Ugly_Old_Goat: rekt can visit you anytime
[2017-01-30 22:53:13] Ugly_Old_Goat : I like visitors, just remember to pay me every 8 hours please
[2017-01-30 22:53:17] Tetsuo : Damn there goes my plan to do a litecoin Bitmex copycat. http://www.litemex.com/ already reserved
[2017-01-30 22:55:18] -_- : same already working on the future
[2017-01-30 22:55:21] -_- : sam*
[2017-01-30 22:55:46] -_- : that website is actually legit
[2017-01-30 23:07:16] trat : BitMEX_Sam: Can leverage change have a confirmation on desktop also?
[2017-01-30 23:22:15] rapidgains : okcoin orderbooks
[2017-01-30 23:22:18] rapidgains : are sad
[2017-01-30 23:23:42] -_- : Every time i change leverage on mobile phone it reloads the website
[2017-01-30 23:32:47] trat : BitMEX_Sam:
[2017-01-30 23:34:07] trat : BitMEX_Sam: This is confirmed. AFTER confirming leverage change. Webpage refreshes.
[2017-01-30 23:47:44] Sultan Pepper : Omg, thank you so much for adding leverage confirmation!
[2017-01-30 23:51:41] -_- : wow ltc
[2017-01-30 23:51:49] -_- : arise chicken
[2017-01-31 00:11:05] -_- : wow 15,000 ltc contracts just opened
[2017-01-31 00:11:07] -_- : on here
[2017-01-31 00:14:47] micmix : only at BitMEX you can get a good laugh reading about site updates! thanks @BitMEX_Sam!
[2017-01-31 00:17:15] micmix : >We might have added a few extra words to the chat filter.
[2017-01-31 00:17:46] micmix : anyone figured those out already?
[2017-01-31 00:18:05] Tetsuo : no dickweed
[2017-01-31 00:18:13] Noobz : anything noganoo related?
[2017-01-31 00:18:17] Noobz : jesus
[2017-01-31 00:18:25] Noobz : nope still works
[2017-01-31 00:18:39] Tetsuo : whoremother
[2017-01-31 00:19:00] micmix : bitfinex
[2017-01-31 00:19:05] micmix : btcc
[2017-01-31 00:19:12] -_- : bitch
[2017-01-31 00:19:12] Tetsuo : china
[2017-01-31 00:19:18] micmix : cryptofacilities
[2017-01-31 00:19:25] -_- : cunt retard okcoin
[2017-01-31 00:19:26] Tetsuo : rapidtrades
[2017-01-31 00:19:43] Tetsuo : pboc
[2017-01-31 00:19:51] -_- : litecoin
[2017-01-31 00:20:13] Tetsuo : asshole
[2017-01-31 00:21:47] Noobz : ohw wait maybe boner daiper or depends
[2017-01-31 00:21:56] Noobz : nope
[2017-01-31 00:25:52] -_- : minutes away http://litecoinblockhalf.com/segwit.php
[2017-01-31 00:26:39] rapidtrades : wait so litecoin goes segwit first?
[2017-01-31 00:26:49] rapidtrades : well thank u BU u pieces of shit
[2017-01-31 00:26:58] rapidtrades : i hate r/btc man
[2017-01-31 00:27:08] rapidtrades : f*Ck Roger Ver too
[2017-01-31 00:27:28] Sultan Pepper : Fuck
[2017-01-31 00:27:32] Sultan Pepper : shit
[2017-01-31 00:27:38] mrp1nk : sup niggas
[2017-01-31 00:27:38] Sultan Pepper : YES
[2017-01-31 00:30:41] -_- : nigger
[2017-01-31 00:30:46] -_- : ^ found one
[2017-01-31 00:30:50] -_- : not sure if that's new though
[2017-01-31 00:31:10] -_- : new ltc high 0kcoin
[2017-01-31 00:31:13] BitMEX_Sam : Hey did you just call our CEO a CEO
[2017-01-31 00:31:30] -_- : well it's true
[2017-01-31 00:31:34] -_- : don't ban me
[2017-01-31 00:32:12] BitMEX_Sam : :boot: :no_entry_sign:
[2017-01-31 00:32:43] -_- : did you see the issue on mobile when changing leverage?
[2017-01-31 00:32:57] -_- : mobile website refreshes after changing leverage
[2017-01-31 00:33:06] BitMEX_Sam : Yep - already fixed
[2017-01-31 00:33:16] BitMEX_Sam : Thanks for the report.
[2017-01-31 00:35:02] -_- : 1 more block for ltc
[2017-01-31 00:36:10] rapidtrades : lol @ltc fomoing on segwit like it matters
[2017-01-31 00:36:31] -_- : up 5%
[2017-01-31 00:37:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 85 @ 0.004720
[2017-01-31 00:38:16] rapidtrades : wtf
[2017-01-31 00:38:43] yungyang : Long on ltc hmm
[2017-01-31 00:38:43] yungyang : dump invound
[2017-01-31 00:39:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 235 @ 0.004670
[2017-01-31 00:39:14] rapidtrades : wtf2
[2017-01-31 00:41:18] cryptokoala : go :D
[2017-01-31 00:41:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 400 @ 0.004600
[2017-01-31 00:42:13] Sultan Pepper : Buy high, sell low. Right?
[2017-01-31 00:42:41] laisee : its si hard to remember all that strategy stuff ...
[2017-01-31 00:43:11] laisee : can't wew get a simple BUY or SELL signal here in trollbox instead?
[2017-01-31 00:43:47] Sultan Pepper : Serious noob question: do futures ever meet spot price?
[2017-01-31 00:44:17] laisee : yep, at the altar, on on settlement date
[2017-01-31 00:45:22] Sultan Pepper : Thank you. Is it so low because spot is generally speculated to drop $10-12 by march? Or for another reason?
[2017-01-31 00:46:25] rapidtrades : this is a bit surreal to watch
[2017-01-31 00:46:46] rapidtrades : chinese exchanges decapitated by their gov yet western moonkids keep buying tht dip
[2017-01-31 00:47:45] rapidtrades : okc futures still in sharp discount, shit's gonna go down soon
[2017-01-31 00:47:47] MikeHunt : rapidtrades: EU is looking at controls as well
[2017-01-31 00:47:58] MikeHunt : kraken + stamp = dead eventually?
[2017-01-31 00:48:04] yungyang : Mike hunt everyone
[2017-01-31 00:48:04] yungyang : the oracle
[2017-01-31 00:48:16] rapidtrades : this is like that lull in early 2008 when everyone had their last fomo
[2017-01-31 00:48:51] yungyang : "denial"
[2017-01-31 00:49:14] MikeHunt : 2008 crisis was prevented via bailout
[2017-01-31 00:49:15] MikeHunt : QE
[2017-01-31 00:49:16] MikeHunt : etc.
[2017-01-31 00:49:52] -_- : wtf @ that ltc margin call
[2017-01-31 00:50:03] -_- : sell 85 @ 0.004720
[2017-01-31 00:50:26] -_- : 0.004790 was the top
[2017-01-31 00:50:38] -_- : did they 33.3x long the very top
[2017-01-31 00:50:50] rustiv : this boy is going places
[2017-01-31 00:51:25] yungyang : Mike Hunt the truth fam
[2017-01-31 00:52:28] rapidtrades : cmon bitcorn either fomo or domo, daddy needs to make money
[2017-01-31 00:57:41] Ugly_Old_Goat : rpaidtrades just stay short and keep paying me. it has been a great Chinese holiday
[2017-01-31 00:58:44] -_- : 0kcoin going for the 2 big walls
[2017-01-31 00:59:19] -_- : 1 down
[2017-01-31 00:59:21] -_- : 1 to go
[2017-01-31 00:59:32] Ugly_Old_Goat : payday goes way up in 11 hours shorts need to send more btc so thjey don't blow out
[2017-01-31 00:59:42] -_- : so funny everyone market buying and putting up 0 support
[2017-01-31 01:00:20] rapidtrades : Ugly_Old_Goat: you'll lose all that funding n 1 hour
[2017-01-31 01:00:21] rapidtrades : b1tch
[2017-01-31 01:02:00] Ugly_Old_Goat : don't how been long sing 885 and been over over 25 dollars per btc. So spot must go to 860 to hit my break even
[2017-01-31 01:02:18] Ugly_Old_Goat : Thank you for your support.
[2017-01-31 01:03:53] Ugly_Old_Goat : Say short and pay. I like your strategy
[2017-01-31 01:04:21] yungyang : Yikes
[2017-01-31 01:04:27] yungyang : lotta hate for the goat
[2017-01-31 01:05:12] rapidtrades : Ugly_Old_Goat: lol at $865
[2017-01-31 01:05:15] rapidtrades : this is going to low 600
[2017-01-31 01:05:27] rapidtrades : should be below 500 tbh but westeern moonkids
[2017-01-31 01:05:37] rapidtrades : *high 600s
[2017-01-31 01:05:52] Ugly_Old_Goat : Possibly, but it must go to 865 to get there.
[2017-01-31 01:06:10] rapidtrades : not necessarily b1tch
[2017-01-31 01:06:24] yungyang : Why you keep saying moonkids?
[2017-01-31 01:06:36] yungyang : whatbif moonkids provide enough support to make it permanent
[2017-01-31 01:06:42] rapidtrades : cos they're stupid and dream of the moon
[2017-01-31 01:06:45] Ugly_Old_Goat : Lots of love for UOG tht's why shorts pay me every 8 hours
[2017-01-31 01:07:11] yungyang : i understand your 2008 below 400 blah blah
[2017-01-31 01:07:12] rapidtrades : u can't support what doesn't have foundation
[2017-01-31 01:07:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 300 @ 0.004570
[2017-01-31 01:07:26] yungyang : but you must see the macro economy is much different yes?
[2017-01-31 01:07:59] yungyang : sure you can
[2017-01-31 01:08:07] rapidtrades : that was an analogy brah
[2017-01-31 01:08:17] yungyang : a poorly made house can be support with concrete
[2017-01-31 01:08:38] yungyang : even if original, firm foundation would be better
[2017-01-31 01:08:47] yungyang : you just add concrete add concrete
[2017-01-31 01:08:52] yungyang : house stands
[2017-01-31 01:09:26] rapidtrades : THAT WAS AN ALLEGORY
[2017-01-31 01:09:38] rapidtrades : why do u have to take everything literally
[2017-01-31 01:10:01] Ugly_Old_Goat : I don't support anything. I just sold out on the spike of 1000 and bot back from 876 to 735. Added a bit at 880 when the backwardation appeared again
[2017-01-31 01:10:28] rapidtrades : u got lucky
[2017-01-31 01:10:33] rapidtrades : and now u shall die
[2017-01-31 01:10:48] rapidtrades : figuratively
[2017-01-31 01:10:56] -_- : damn now ltc wants to dump on here
[2017-01-31 01:11:24] Ugly_Old_Goat : Yes, backwardation adds support but we already the selloff. The backwardation is simply corrected the Chiness bs. Happy Chinese New Year.
[2017-01-31 01:11:40] -_- : china bearbot dumping
[2017-01-31 01:11:49] rapidtrades : hyperbole if u will
[2017-01-31 01:13:41] Sultan Pepper : Hit that 918 just in time!
[2017-01-31 01:14:06] rapidtrades : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-30/ron-paul-suggests-better-solution-trumps-border-wall
[2017-01-31 01:14:17] Ugly_Old_Goat : Been lucky now since 2013 when I bot my first btc in Aug undere 100
[2017-01-31 01:14:59] Ugly_Old_Goat : I have done quite well since in spite of losing more on the exchanges than my net gain
[2017-01-31 01:16:03] rapidtrades : SURPRISE! being a perma-bull in a bull market works
[2017-01-31 01:16:48] rapidtrades : in other news, being at the right place at the right time can get your a dream job, a model wife AND 1 million dollars!
[2017-01-31 01:18:49] Ugly_Old_Goat : excellent article rapidtrazdes
[2017-01-31 01:19:37] rapidtrades : tnx i try
[2017-01-31 01:20:57] Ugly_Old_Goat : Payday synced with rally, I love it!
[2017-01-31 01:22:39] rapidtrades : yep! clearly swap working as intended
[2017-01-31 01:23:17] Ugly_Old_Goat : Payday in 2 hours cover shorts now to avoid payment or stay short and pay. Thank you for your support
[2017-01-31 01:27:17] Ugly_Old_Goat : If you play the short side here your stop need to be 940. Problem is 940 will likely indicate a sharp leg up..
[2017-01-31 01:30:57] rapidtrades : lol @ u
[2017-01-31 01:37:36] Sultan Pepper : We're' the dude that goes "WEEE"
[2017-01-31 01:37:46] Sultan Pepper : Where's*
[2017-01-31 01:51:44] rapidtrades : they've been running this scam for few weeks now
[2017-01-31 01:52:09] rapidtrades : push&keep prices down under funding is locked in, then rally them back up
[2017-01-31 01:52:53] abbey : soon
[2017-01-31 01:53:28] rapidtrades : paying 0.05% and 0.15% during flat markets is outrageous
[2017-01-31 01:53:34] yungyang : "they"
[2017-01-31 01:53:39] rapidtrades : plain theft and manipulation
[2017-01-31 01:53:57] yungyang : you don't have to buy the swap
[2017-01-31 01:54:07] rapidtrades : what china did others will do soon and all this shit will get shut down
[2017-01-31 01:54:22] rapidtrades : better get real jobs soon
[2017-01-31 01:57:18] yungyang : you a funny doo
[2017-01-31 02:03:51] -_- : lol someone just bought 35,000 LTC on 0kcoin
[2017-01-31 02:04:18] -_- : and then someone decides to sell 3000 LTC way lower
[2017-01-31 02:08:18] -_- : 700,000 LTC volume just on 0kcoin last 26 hours. with fees and no margin i wonder if this whale is meaning to dump so many
[2017-01-31 02:09:08] -_- : 320,000 ltc volume on btce last 26 hours
[2017-01-31 02:10:09] -_- : 150,000 bitfinex. amazing
[2017-01-31 02:11:15] micmix : rapidtrades: some ppl with large balances doing rate arbitrage with swap, very profitable in flat market
[2017-01-31 02:12:25] anonymous123421 : micmix: isn't the risk involved relatively high? aren't you in bad shape if the market suddenly moves against you?
[2017-01-31 02:13:32] micmix : you're supposed to have neutral position when you do that (hedged)
[2017-01-31 02:15:11] anonymous123421 : micmix: ah I see
[2017-01-31 02:15:23] anonymous123421 : hence it's called arbitrage
[2017-01-31 02:16:10] micmix : and it's relatively safe bc it takes a while for rates to adjust even during sudden directional movement. enough time to re-balance position if swap rate becomes positive again
[2017-01-31 02:16:50] anonymous123421 : Interesting
[2017-01-31 02:18:17] dodic : I learn so much here lol
[2017-01-31 02:18:34] dodic : Thank you @micmix
[2017-01-31 02:18:36] anonymous123421 : Arbitrage is probably what interests me the most because it seems to attempt to reduce your risk, unlike speculation which is just a guess.
[2017-01-31 02:20:13] anonymous123421 : Can someone explain futures arbitrage to me? I feel like I only understand it on a superficial level, how do you end up profiting come settlement?
[2017-01-31 02:22:06] micmix : anonymous123421: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d1oITE3jDI
[2017-01-31 02:22:13] Ugly_Old_Goat : Covcer shorts now or pay me in an hour'
[2017-01-31 02:22:59] micmix : anonymous123421: this one is more recent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XehDfHTa8Sg
[2017-01-31 02:23:02] anonymous123421 : micmix: Oh that's neat, I didn't know they had a youtube channel, thanks for the link
[2017-01-31 02:23:26] micmix : anonymous123421: yep, lots of useful videos there
[2017-01-31 02:25:26] sleger : "Business Development: We might have added a few extra words to the chat filter."
[2017-01-31 02:25:31] sleger : ^ Greg hard at work
[2017-01-31 02:25:37] 24hourz : xbth17 is really staggered for the order books
[2017-01-31 02:47:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 25 @ 0.004570
[2017-01-31 03:02:50] jose : okcoin
[2017-01-31 03:30:48] 24hourz : volume ded
[2017-01-31 03:31:28] FreeBitcoins : today I think we are going to get that major sell off
[2017-01-31 03:32:50] 24hourz : bbands are shallow af
[2017-01-31 03:47:50] Sultan Pepper : Ugly_Old_Goat: How long until funding?
[2017-01-31 03:49:12] Ugly_Old_Goat : Payday in 10 minutes @Sultan Pepper
[2017-01-31 03:49:37] Ugly_Old_Goat : Cover your shorts or pay me
[2017-01-31 03:49:52] Ugly_Old_Goat : Thank you for your support
[2017-01-31 03:51:06] Sultan Pepper : Shorts are comfy and easy to wear
[2017-01-31 03:52:09] Ugly_Old_Goat : You need to try mine. I only wear designer Depends
[2017-01-31 03:52:32] Ugly_Old_Goat : Not so comfy when they get full
[2017-01-31 03:53:24] FreeBitcoins : I dont mind paying funding. Consider it a tip and withdraw it in USD
[2017-01-31 03:56:21] Ugly_Old_Goat : I consider it FreeBitcoins and appreciate the tip
[2017-01-31 03:57:18] Sultan Pepper : I've gotten pretty good at freeing my bitcoins here
[2017-01-31 03:57:20] Ugly_Old_Goat : 3 minues to payday, next one is a nice one!
[2017-01-31 04:00:56] Ugly_Old_Goat : Next to payouts are nice, please stay short
[2017-01-31 04:01:17] Sultan Pepper : Funny how all the shorts roll in right after payout
[2017-01-31 04:02:21] Ugly_Old_Goat : no many OI is almsot 5 million'
[2017-01-31 05:05:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 2057 @ 0.004490
[2017-01-31 05:05:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 1010 @ 0.004490
[2017-01-31 05:05:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 1000 @ 0.004480
[2017-01-31 06:53:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1800 @ 919.48
[2017-01-31 07:05:33] -_- : Btc Going up
[2017-01-31 07:07:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 5000 @ 920.10
[2017-01-31 07:07:17] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 920.05
[2017-01-31 07:07:56] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 100 @ 920.21
[2017-01-31 07:08:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 500 @ 922.38
[2017-01-31 07:08:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 42000 @ 920.60
[2017-01-31 07:08:16] REKT : MOOON TIME!
[2017-01-31 07:08:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 46000 @ 921.45
[2017-01-31 07:08:41] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 10000 @ 921.63
[2017-01-31 07:09:07] -_- : Xbth17 premium now
[2017-01-31 07:09:56] -_- : Guess i needed to close ltc long hours ago and long btc
[2017-01-31 07:10:32] rowrow : blah, didn't get my buys in before the spike
[2017-01-31 07:11:00] rowrow : at least it's going up
[2017-01-31 07:11:38] FreeBitcoins : good that something is happening
[2017-01-31 07:12:05] rowrow : yeah, need some action, liquidity, volatility
[2017-01-31 07:12:37] FreeBitcoins : back to high 9s this week
[2017-01-31 07:32:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 10 @ 922.30
[2017-01-31 07:32:51] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2400 @ 923.25
[2017-01-31 07:33:49] -_- : 6414 cny going down soon
[2017-01-31 07:34:22] -_- : 6450 and 6537 next
[2017-01-31 07:34:37] -_- : then 6625 then moon
[2017-01-31 07:35:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 131519 @ 924.20 **EPIC REKT** :unamused: :confounded: :astonished:
[2017-01-31 07:35:11] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 4400 @ 924.87
[2017-01-31 07:35:15] -_- : 941
[2017-01-31 07:35:16] -_- : wow
[2017-01-31 07:35:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1499 @ 925.35
[2017-01-31 07:35:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 38200 @ 926.00
[2017-01-31 07:35:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2220 @ 925.92
[2017-01-31 07:35:26] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 3100 @ 925.95
[2017-01-31 07:35:44] herpinator : insane in the membrane
[2017-01-31 07:35:56] rapidgains : $$$$$$$$$
[2017-01-31 07:35:57] rapidgains : $$$$$$$$
[2017-01-31 07:36:01] mutato : shorts are toast
[2017-01-31 07:36:04] herpinator : insane in the brain
[2017-01-31 07:36:14] rapidgains : quarter lol
[2017-01-31 07:36:14] herpinator : yeh I closed my short at a small loss just at the right time lol
[2017-01-31 07:36:16] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2000 @ 927.92
[2017-01-31 07:36:26] rapidgains : lol
[2017-01-31 07:36:38] Apocalyptic : the mooning is strong today
[2017-01-31 07:37:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 200 @ 939.25
[2017-01-31 07:37:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 1300 @ 937.61
[2017-01-31 07:37:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 32200 @ 938.92
[2017-01-31 07:37:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 225 @ 939.54
[2017-01-31 07:37:15] Derreck : pump!
[2017-01-31 07:38:03] Derreck : and finally $7 premium!
[2017-01-31 07:42:35] herpinator : big resistance point at 950
[2017-01-31 07:43:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1750 @ 931.22
[2017-01-31 07:43:57] rowrow : no news came out that caused this, right? just market doing its thing?
[2017-01-31 07:44:16] KyllingLolsson : Bitmex team... Why was my fking stop loss cancelled??????
[2017-01-31 07:44:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 30000 @ 931.35
[2017-01-31 07:44:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 10000 @ 931.68
[2017-01-31 07:44:46] -_- : you must have did it wrong KyllingLolsson
[2017-01-31 07:44:53] Ahhere : rowrow: triangles have been closing in or around today but hard to draw after overcorrection
[2017-01-31 07:44:58] rowrow : KyllingLolsson: if you cancel active orders it can cancel stop losses if you just click cancel all
[2017-01-31 07:45:20] heheh lo : correction coming soon
[2017-01-31 07:45:34] -_- : it's happening now. 940 incoming
[2017-01-31 07:46:05] KyllingLolsson : No i have done it 100 Times before
[2017-01-31 07:48:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: sell 1000 @ 0.003757
[2017-01-31 07:48:18] Ugly_Old_Goat : Break 940 we got to 980 plus pay day coming
[2017-01-31 07:48:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 600 @ 932.09
[2017-01-31 07:48:52] Ugly_Old_Goat : oops March just went to preimium
[2017-01-31 07:48:53] Ugly_Old_Goat : oops March just went to preimium'
[2017-01-31 07:49:33] heheh lo : buying in back @ 925
[2017-01-31 07:49:34] KyllingLolsson : I lost all i have du to the cabcelled stop loss... I did everything right...
[2017-01-31 07:49:36] FreeBitcoins : blow the shorts was the mission
[2017-01-31 07:49:38] FreeBitcoins : mission accomplished
[2017-01-31 07:49:41] Ugly_Old_Goat : Do not cover short swaps Payday in 4 hours
[2017-01-31 07:49:44] Tetsuo : KyllingLolsson: seems like u did it wrong
[2017-01-31 07:49:53] Ugly_Old_Goat : Stay short and pay me too!
[2017-01-31 07:49:58] Ugly_Old_Goat : I love this place
[2017-01-31 07:50:22] rapidgains : lol
[2017-01-31 07:50:57] -_- : nothing holding LTC down in china. but BTC pumps and LTC stays at a standstill
[2017-01-31 07:51:29] rapidgains : -_-: https://twitter.com/CryptoCobain/status/819114919060652032
[2017-01-31 07:51:30] rowrow : maybe people realized litecoin is useless
[2017-01-31 07:51:33] -_- : 600,000 LTC volume randomly. but btc goes up and they cant even buy 1000 ltc
[2017-01-31 07:52:14] heheh lo : ltc has to go back where it was
[2017-01-31 07:53:15] Ugly_Old_Goat : good stuff here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB6VNWcWri4
[2017-01-31 07:53:50] FreeBitcoins : rapidgains: that scammer stole that shit
[2017-01-31 07:55:45] rapidgains : lol
[2017-01-31 08:04:39] FreeBitcoins : if we see some longs liquidated here I wont know what to think
[2017-01-31 08:06:24] Noobz : Morning Peepz, bots, Rekt
[2017-01-31 08:07:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETH7D`: sell 200 @ 0.011390
[2017-01-31 08:09:05] REKT : Noobz: Good morning Noobz! REKT is in good mood today!
[2017-01-31 08:10:39] Noobz : lol. I need coffee ... I could have sworn that that bot just talked to me
[2017-01-31 08:14:02] REKT : Noobz: REKT is happy he has work to d today. REKT was bored and lonely on Chinese New Year. No one sent him a postcard :-(
[2017-01-31 08:14:44] Derreck : REKT: that is sad man :(
[2017-01-31 08:15:13] FreeBitcoins : Im so high right now I cant deal with talking bots
[2017-01-31 08:15:45] Derreck : and premium is gone...
[2017-01-31 08:16:16] Noobz : REKT: hope it will be a roller-coaster for you so you get lots of shorts and longs today
[2017-01-31 08:16:41] REKT : REKT is ready to have fun!
[2017-01-31 08:17:03] Noobz : Noobz too
[2017-01-31 08:18:17] RocketScience : huobi
[2017-01-31 08:18:28] RocketScience : i need to find extra chat filter words
[2017-01-31 08:21:02] heheh lo : rally wont chill, my god
[2017-01-31 08:21:39] rowrow : well it was like $4 higher at peak
[2017-01-31 08:27:31] -_- : 40 cny spread on 0kcoin
[2017-01-31 08:32:02] rowrow : price is basically back to where it was before trading fees were announced
[2017-01-31 08:32:06] Ugly_Old_Goat : Noobz: It did. Does the bot actually do the crap it says
[2017-01-31 08:33:10] Ugly_Old_Goat : Yup and finance fees now favor shorts as it should. Thanks for the ride fellas and all the paydays too!
[2017-01-31 08:35:15] Ugly_Old_Goat : We need to take out 940 to confirm reversals. Then time to start welling some perp agains of the Mch contracts I bot from 901 to 735
[2017-01-31 08:36:02] heheh lo : Ugly_Old_Goat: maybe not too low, 900 ish i guess
[2017-01-31 08:38:30] Ugly_Old_Goat : My average was about 805 after selling out everything over 1100, So bot a truck and finish building my hour all since January 1
[2017-01-31 08:39:34] Noobz : Ugly_Old_Goat: Well something has to liquidate those orders and im pretty sure it isn't done manually, So yeah Rekt does it or maybe her cousin.
[2017-01-31 08:44:34] mik : hi
[2017-01-31 08:44:41] cryptobull : Hi
[2017-01-31 08:45:08] mik : how i can work with bitmex? i dont understand!
[2017-01-31 08:45:26] cryptobull : What do u mean?
[2017-01-31 08:45:40] mik : is this site difference with poloniex?
[2017-01-31 08:45:56] cryptobull : Yes. You trade futures here
[2017-01-31 08:46:03] Ugly_Old_Goat : this is derivative
[2017-01-31 08:46:36] mik : derivative? or future?
[2017-01-31 08:46:44] Ugly_Old_Goat : spot derivative and futures derivative
[2017-01-31 08:47:08] Ugly_Old_Goat : You do not buy or sell btc or anything else here
[2017-01-31 08:47:17] Ugly_Old_Goat : you are trading derivatives
[2017-01-31 08:47:32] mik : oh shit :D
[2017-01-31 08:47:37] mik : so not good for me
[2017-01-31 08:47:50] Ugly_Old_Goat : Not necessarily
[2017-01-31 08:48:00] mik : thnx guys
[2017-01-31 08:48:24] aaa : https://www.bitmex.com/app/seriesGuide/XBT heres the guide
[2017-01-31 08:48:30] Ugly_Old_Goat : Very efficient spec platform and especially useful for hedging if you own crypto
[2017-01-31 08:48:55] heheh lo : waiting for a buy in.. hmm. @mik once you trade here u probably wont go back polo
[2017-01-31 08:49:08] Ugly_Old_Goat : Tremendous opportunities here if you know what you are doing
[2017-01-31 08:49:26] cryptobull : Indeed
[2017-01-31 08:49:49] Ugly_Old_Goat : If don't know ask, and expect to lose while you learn
[2017-01-31 08:50:01] mik : heheh lo: i made 26.5btc profit from poloniex from selling pascal coin :D
[2017-01-31 08:50:02] Ugly_Old_Goat : key is use cross margin
[2017-01-31 08:51:20] Ugly_Old_Goat : mik: how did you get the pascal? Initial offering? Or buying on polo?
[2017-01-31 08:52:21] mik : Ugly_Old_Goat: i bought pascal coin in 12000 satoshi.and sold in 90ksatoshi
[2017-01-31 08:53:51] heheh lo : mik: x7.5 wow. congrats
[2017-01-31 08:55:54] cryptobull : Not bad. Buying someone's 20x and profit ?
[2017-01-31 08:56:32] Ugly_Old_Goat : Nice
[2017-01-31 08:57:01] Ugly_Old_Goat : I just bot xcp under 22 and thought I am doing well you hit home run
[2017-01-31 08:57:18] CryptoHI : anyone know why the mark price is different from last price?
[2017-01-31 08:58:14] cryptobull : CryptoHI: https://www.bitmex.com/app/fairPriceMarking
[2017-01-31 09:00:35] CryptoHI : yeah i'm reading it and don't understand... was wondering if some one could ELI5 it for me
[2017-01-31 09:02:32] birdie numn : so will btc stay at 930s?
[2017-01-31 09:04:00] cryptobull : I'm thinking back to 920-925 then break 940 resistance
[2017-01-31 09:05:07] micmix : imho new PBoC new in Feb. and big drop again
[2017-01-31 09:05:07] Noobz : everything better then the sideways of last days
[2017-01-31 09:05:23] micmix : *PBoC news
[2017-01-31 09:06:13] arbitrage101 : what news
[2017-01-31 09:06:25] arbitrage101 : they said they will release news regarding btc?
[2017-01-31 09:07:54] Ahhere : micmix: 'imho black swan coming'. Sounds hopeful.
[2017-01-31 09:07:54] micmix : we didn't get any official statements and no conclusions from those exchange investigations, so I expect something after New Year
[2017-01-31 09:09:14] micmix : Ahhere: I'm not hopeful, I'm scared
[2017-01-31 09:09:35] arbitrage101 : the price action looks bullish
[2017-01-31 09:11:17] enki0182 : the next estimated funding rate is 0.1333%.... is that 0.1333% of unrealised PL or margin, or what?
[2017-01-31 09:11:40] enki0182 : sorry -0.13334%
[2017-01-31 09:12:00] Noobz : enki0182: its from your position.
[2017-01-31 09:12:27] enki0182 : ok position amount ..(i.e. 5000, 25000, etc)
[2017-01-31 09:12:51] enki0182 : Noobz: thanks too
[2017-01-31 09:12:52] Noobz : position value
[2017-01-31 09:12:58] enki0182 : ok ty
[2017-01-31 09:13:42] sciack : im long on BTC since 911, should I close this position now? any sign of further advance?
[2017-01-31 09:15:26] BTC-Noob : HODLLLLLL
[2017-01-31 09:16:12] herpinator : sell your house, sell your car, sell your wife + kids buy BTC
[2017-01-31 09:16:12] sciack : lol
[2017-01-31 09:17:31] cryptobull : Close and re open @ 920-925 imo.
[2017-01-31 09:17:34] herpinator : sciack: you could probably take profit now and reopen your position at a lower price
[2017-01-31 09:19:01] sciack : thanks herpinator
[2017-01-31 09:19:09] sciack : I also believe that there will be a retracement
[2017-01-31 09:19:20] sciack : thanks for honest advice
[2017-01-31 09:20:16] Ugly_Old_Goat : Still have a lot of short debating whether to bail here or what until after payday. payday is big this round
[2017-01-31 09:21:14] FreeBitcoins : Ugly_Old_Goat: Can you explain the funding? Right now it pays shorts or longs?
[2017-01-31 09:21:47] Ugly_Old_Goat : Pays longs this round,
[2017-01-31 09:22:14] Ugly_Old_Goat : But that will change once Mach goes to preimium and stays there
[2017-01-31 09:22:18] enki0182 : FreeBitcoins: when it says "-0.xxxx%" ... people with longs get paid... when it says "0.xxx%" .... people with shorts get paid....
[2017-01-31 09:23:18] Ugly_Old_Goat : This is the best place to hedge positions. Price here for last week has been below spot and you get paid.
[2017-01-31 09:23:36] Ugly_Old_Goat : Normal is it pays shorts
[2017-01-31 09:24:27] Ugly_Old_Goat : So smart money sold here at 160 preimium and bot at 10-30 discount.
[2017-01-31 09:24:48] FreeBitcoins : it doesnt make sense? Why would it pay longs if the price is over mark?
[2017-01-31 09:25:06] KyllingLolsson : So if im long and the funding rate is positive, i get paid right?
[2017-01-31 09:25:09] Ugly_Old_Goat : Mark has nothing to do with itg
[2017-01-31 09:25:12] FreeBitcoins : thats got to be the most interesting scam I have heard of
[2017-01-31 09:25:19] enki0182 : wrong @FreeBitcoins
[2017-01-31 09:25:26] enki0182 : KyllingLolsson: sorry - wrong...
[2017-01-31 09:25:31] KyllingLolsson : ok opposite
[2017-01-31 09:25:36] enki0182 : KyllingLolsson: yes
[2017-01-31 09:25:40] FreeBitcoins : funding should be incentive to keep it on mark
[2017-01-31 09:25:42] Ugly_Old_Goat : not scam, it has corrected the scam exchanges
[2017-01-31 09:26:26] enki0182 : its not a biggy - its like when you jam a crap formula through microsoft excel and it says "-0.xxx".... but you know its the other way around.... its not a big deal... in fact if your long right now its an awesome deal :P
[2017-01-31 09:26:30] FreeBitcoins : it basically means the price is tracking%.133 higher
[2017-01-31 09:26:43] enki0182 : FreeBitcoins: you may be right
[2017-01-31 09:26:57] Ugly_Old_Goat : the market only started trading at premium to mark on this pop
[2017-01-31 09:26:59] FreeBitcoins : how do they come up with these funding rates?
[2017-01-31 09:27:26] KyllingLolsson : i think it is a way to rebalance the value of the paper??
[2017-01-31 09:27:33] FreeBitcoins : like a hamster or there is math?
[2017-01-31 09:28:07] Ugly_Old_Goat : It has been trading at discount and paying longs. Normal is hover above and below mark and pay shorts funding, but China mess inverted market temporarily and created tremendous opportunity here
[2017-01-31 09:28:40] Ugly_Old_Goat : KyllingLolsson: Good thinking. Exactly what has been going on
[2017-01-31 09:29:07] KyllingLolsson : Nothing wrong with that IMO
[2017-01-31 09:29:22] KyllingLolsson : Keeps this going
[2017-01-31 09:29:25] rowrow : might make sense to change funding to 4 hours, but that makes it harder for people to plan for
[2017-01-31 09:30:16] rowrow : would mostly fix the funding cap problem though
[2017-01-31 09:30:31] rowrow : and makes it more responsive to market changes
[2017-01-31 09:30:59] Ugly_Old_Goat : yes, I have learned to to be gone too long trading perp Mch safe an discount or small preimium. Look for it to disappear entirely very soon. Went from minus 10 to zero today
[2017-01-31 09:32:41] enki0182 : there really is not major issues on this exchange, except for an ability to provide 100x levg without forcing customers to get ADL'd when the market moves in significance. increasing unsurance fund only kills bitmex's overall profit (bad).... and many other methods really only come down to "tighter liq" prices. bitmex is what it is and it does well - for what it is - especially considering the broader market.
[2017-01-31 09:35:39] KyllingLolsson : Can anyone tell me how to set up the stop loss properly? So today i was short from 915. Stop limit at 920, with trigger at 919.9, But somehow it didn’t execute?
[2017-01-31 09:35:53] hobolowbo : new guy question
[2017-01-31 09:36:12] KyllingLolsson : i previously used stop mark
[2017-01-31 09:36:14] hobolowbo : if i hold the prepetual swap at funding time, and sell it a minute after funding closes, do I still pocket the funding rate * how many contracts i hold?
[2017-01-31 09:36:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 1620 @ 0.004410
[2017-01-31 09:37:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 1784 @ 0.004400
[2017-01-31 09:37:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 100 @ 0.004390
[2017-01-31 09:39:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 181 @ 0.004380
[2017-01-31 09:43:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `LTC7D`: sell 670 @ 0.004370
[2017-01-31 09:44:39] rapidgains : lol
[2017-01-31 09:45:29] Ugly_Old_Goat : hobolowbo: yup