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[2017-01-27 04:06:18] cryptokeeper : 2 for 1 special
[2017-01-27 04:07:00] Sultan Pepper : Something like a $25 spread in 5 minutes...
[2017-01-27 04:07:16] Sultan Pepper : i wish I was a robot sometimes
[2017-01-27 04:07:56] cryptokeeper : too funny
[2017-01-27 04:09:22] rangle : i miss chinas fake liquidity
[2017-01-27 04:09:59] Sultan Pepper : What does that mean exactly? I'm kinda new to the game
[2017-01-27 04:10:24] Sultan Pepper : I know about China's fees and leverage
[2017-01-27 04:14:00] rangle : bots traded in overdrive for 5 CNY moves to get profit with 0 fee
[2017-01-27 04:14:12] rangle : just my haunch
[2017-01-27 04:14:41] Sultan Pepper : Gotcha
[2017-01-27 04:15:08] Sultan Pepper : Could you please explain quarterlies in brief?
[2017-01-27 04:15:23] Farzad : go long on 900-905
[2017-01-27 04:15:40] Sultan Pepper : Do they auto close in march at current price?
[2017-01-27 04:42:02] Papou : god is this funding rate ever be positive?
[2017-01-27 04:42:10] Papou : and will we dump finally?
[2017-01-27 04:43:28] datboiyuan : 8======D
[2017-01-27 04:43:50] MikeHunt : Papou: way down will be long and painful, like the obama presidency
[2017-01-27 04:57:02] micmix : MikeHunt: no, it will be short and violent, like Trump presidency :smile:
[2017-01-27 05:05:42] laisee : the Trump revolution will be televiised, and tweeted
[2017-01-27 05:15:29] v gets : how do I turn of indicators on chart?
[2017-01-27 05:15:40] v gets : once I get them on, I can't seem to turn them off
[2017-01-27 05:21:35] MikeHunt : micmix: lol i wish
[2017-01-27 05:21:44] MikeHunt : so bored watching this slowly go down
[2017-01-27 05:30:15] YOLOCOIN : LEWL
[2017-01-27 05:32:06] FreeBitcoins : That was god damn nasty
[2017-01-27 05:32:46] YOLOCOIN : trying to crash it
[2017-01-27 05:32:53] YOLOCOIN : bulls so damn strong though
[2017-01-27 05:33:05] YOLOCOIN : not sure who's gunna win
[2017-01-27 05:33:14] YOLOCOIN : might just close and stay out
[2017-01-27 05:33:17] YOLOCOIN : scurry shit
[2017-01-27 05:36:06] YOLOCOIN : cmon fuckers
[2017-01-27 05:36:08] YOLOCOIN : crash it already
[2017-01-27 06:14:52] VenCap : you all think Bitcoin will go down short term?
[2017-01-27 06:15:13] Papou : lol
[2017-01-27 06:15:21] VenCap : Then you will all go down with it. "Low vol" = easy to pump also.
[2017-01-27 06:15:27] Papou : no, we are about to double top ath then break out until 10,000
[2017-01-27 06:15:28] VenCap : Hey Hey Papou. Good Morning Sir.
[2017-01-27 06:15:46] VenCap : How is your Position looking?
[2017-01-27 06:16:03] Papou : actually if anything low volume should decrease the price since miners will always have to sell
[2017-01-27 06:16:10] Papou : and now no leverage to keep up
[2017-01-27 06:16:27] Papou : chinese traders on vacation for new years...they come back tomorrow and will dump
[2017-01-27 06:16:32] VenCap : Miners are Wise, they know future price of BTC this year and will hold for a few month
[2017-01-27 06:17:08] VenCap : China wants to start the year very well, they will pump. And not do anything "negative" its the rules for the Rooster.
[2017-01-27 06:17:15] MikeHunt : VenCap: in order to adjust to no china pump it would be expensive to try and prevent a correction
[2017-01-27 06:17:33] VenCap : http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/25/travel/lunar-new-year-etiquette-dos-donts-chinese-new-year/
[2017-01-27 06:18:09] VenCap : well so far so good, been trying to dump BTC last 5 days, holding up stronger, building higher lows.
[2017-01-27 06:18:31] VenCap : Today we test $935 - $940
[2017-01-27 06:18:51] laisee : and 888.88 tomorrow, ofc
[2017-01-27 06:20:11] VenCap : Papou are you wearing Red Underwear?
[2017-01-27 06:20:35] VenCap : or anyone else here? Because you should....
[2017-01-27 06:20:44] VenCap : Red is associated with luck and prosperity, but it's used mainly for protective purposes.
[2017-01-27 06:20:46] VenCap : ..
[2017-01-27 06:20:52] VenCap : it will protect you from dumps
[2017-01-27 06:22:02] VenCap : ooh no we are dumping....
[2017-01-27 06:22:05] VenCap : UPWARDS :OP
[2017-01-27 06:22:17] VenCap : you shorters are the only "Dumplin" aroudn here
[2017-01-27 06:22:47] atodorov07 : lol
[2017-01-27 06:22:56] atodorov07 : red also protects you from angry bulls
[2017-01-27 06:22:59] FreeBitcoins : Is there a mod around?
[2017-01-27 06:23:35] johndoe : wow, bizarre movement on swap
[2017-01-27 06:24:01] VenCap : atodorov07: Do you know what Bull Fighting is? Have you ever seen famous posters of Bull Fighters? What colour Flag are they holding?
[2017-01-27 06:24:02] VenCap : :P
[2017-01-27 06:24:33] VenCap : johndoe: pre meditated pump move, you mean.
[2017-01-27 06:26:37] VenCap : wow $2 flips all over the place here now
[2017-01-27 06:27:36] MikeHunt : reason for selling pressure: http://i.imgur.com/1tvTYYe.png
[2017-01-27 06:28:19] VenCap : it wont last much longerr @MikeHunt
[2017-01-27 06:30:40] VenCap : someone is taking chunks out of the sells here.. munch munch munch
[2017-01-27 06:32:39] MikeHunt : VenCap: remember bots can be deceiving
[2017-01-27 06:32:52] MikeHunt : in regards to sell/buy walls
[2017-01-27 06:32:58] VenCap : very true.
[2017-01-27 06:43:53] aethlios : Hello traders!! dump will start after roll over? or pump to 1200? let's see....
[2017-01-27 06:44:58] MikeHunt : dump
[2017-01-27 06:45:01] MikeHunt : china pump ded
[2017-01-27 06:45:14] MikeHunt : :/
[2017-01-27 06:56:18] aethlios : http://litecoinblockhalf.com/segwit.php LTC softfork for segwit
[2017-01-27 06:56:31] VenCap : Dead Dump, China Pump..
[2017-01-27 06:56:39] VenCap : Everyone is getting segwit no big deal
[2017-01-27 06:56:48] VenCap : Vertcoin is getting it
[2017-01-27 06:56:55] VenCap : Stratis has got it
[2017-01-27 06:56:59] VenCap : XMR getting it...
[2017-01-27 06:57:24] VenCap : Trumps aint getting it though...
[2017-01-27 06:59:56] VenCap : Sailing along on the HMS Short..... ICEBERG!!!!
[2017-01-27 07:02:16] VenCap : Arize Rooster!
[2017-01-27 07:02:28] VenCap : :rooster:
[2017-01-27 07:04:26] carl : Lay off the meth
[2017-01-27 07:05:19] VenCap : Just "laying" golden eggs around here Carl.
[2017-01-27 07:09:11] VenCap : :920 incoming.. Brace Yourself.
[2017-01-27 07:13:16] VenCap : Hold........
[2017-01-27 07:15:22] VenCap : Choo Choo
[2017-01-27 07:15:24] VenCap : :train:
[2017-01-27 07:16:22] VenCap : chomp chomp chomp sell orders.. looks like Pacman got the Munchies today
[2017-01-27 07:18:35] VenCap : 6,4000 OKCoin boooom
[2017-01-27 07:20:29] VenCap : $935 easy today
[2017-01-27 07:36:41] FreeBitcoins : GTFO while you can
[2017-01-27 07:39:40] aethlios : if they dump after futures expiration will be very funny manipulation.
[2017-01-27 07:42:21] VenCap : when do futures expire?
[2017-01-27 07:42:41] aethlios : delivery price basically has formed, 18 minutes left
[2017-01-27 07:44:44] FreeBitcoins : flash 921 then light out
[2017-01-27 07:46:01] bitmors : Flash 921 then epic red candle coming up
[2017-01-27 07:46:06] bitmors : Get ready
[2017-01-27 07:46:41] FreeBitcoins : more epic than armageddon
[2017-01-27 07:46:42] VenCap : bitmors: lols everyone been saying big red cnadle for 5 days now..
[2017-01-27 07:46:45] VenCap : Keep Dreaming!
[2017-01-27 07:46:55] VenCap : Infact keep saying it because it helps Bitcoin rise!!!
[2017-01-27 07:47:08] bitmors : Its armageddon
[2017-01-27 07:47:14] FreeBitcoins : I dunno guys something doesn't seem right, very cautious here
[2017-01-27 07:47:33] bitmors : Your computers will shut down by themselves
[2017-01-27 07:47:49] bitmors : Its going to be like walking dead outside
[2017-01-27 07:49:09] VenCap : You guy are color blind.. you think Green, is Red...
[2017-01-27 07:49:13] VenCap : I hoep you do not drive!!!
[2017-01-27 07:49:34] VenCap : lols Shills trying to get buy orders filled...
[2017-01-27 07:50:09] FreeBitcoins : Im driving to the alcohol shop to buy a bottle of whisky and pour a drink for the lost souls on 100x long
[2017-01-27 07:50:32] VenCap : lols... x100 yeah.. eek. x25 like cha'mone
[2017-01-27 07:52:10] YOLOCOIN : potential bull trap
[2017-01-27 07:52:15] YOLOCOIN : take caution
[2017-01-27 07:52:35] bitmors : Overly dramatic freebitcoins
[2017-01-27 07:52:46] bitmors : How big is the drop?
[2017-01-27 07:53:44] FreeBitcoins : Im not sure but I can tell when something is fishy
[2017-01-27 07:54:51] bitmors : Ok so it can be anything from a 10$ drop to 50$ to 200$ and if anything like that happens you'll tell us that you were right all along
[2017-01-27 07:55:07] bitmors : Thanks for the warning
[2017-01-27 07:55:21] FreeBitcoins : No I will think $10 and no, im not one of those nobs
[2017-01-27 07:55:55] FreeBitcoins : nothing worse than a fucking oracle
[2017-01-27 07:56:19] VenCap : so form $920 to $910
[2017-01-27 07:56:30] bitmors : Yep that must be it vencap
[2017-01-27 07:56:31] VenCap : dont have to be Wolf of Wall Street to make that call
[2017-01-27 07:56:38] bitmors : Close all your positions
[2017-01-27 07:56:40] VenCap : :P
[2017-01-27 07:56:52] YOLOCOIN : lots of people exited their longs 2 hours ago
[2017-01-27 07:56:57] YOLOCOIN : all that shenanigans
[2017-01-27 07:57:02] VenCap : bitmors: to be fair just closed my long around 917.25 avg. nice .8 to start the day and end the day
[2017-01-27 07:57:09] VenCap : i will be back tomorrow.
[2017-01-27 07:57:15] bitmors : Good job... Doom.is.coming
[2017-01-27 07:57:16] rowrow : anyone know if bitvc has a different margin requirement for 20x vs 10x? (if you use the same amount) - just wondering if there's any reason to have more locked up
[2017-01-27 07:58:46] FreeBitcoins : they want the 4hr closing above 6400 CNY and then the party starts
[2017-01-27 07:59:33] FreeBitcoins : gentlemen... start your engines....
[2017-01-27 08:00:20] bitmors : You say nothing worse than.an oracle but you sure act like you know whats going to happen
[2017-01-27 08:01:17] VenCap : FreeBitcoins: when does the 4hr close?
[2017-01-27 08:01:23] VenCap : jsut now?
[2017-01-27 08:01:30] YOLOCOIN : just did
[2017-01-27 08:01:40] YOLOCOIN : ok coin also settled
[2017-01-27 08:01:46] VenCap : right on the money then....
[2017-01-27 08:01:53] VenCap : FreeBitcoins: could be a good call right there
[2017-01-27 08:01:58] YOLOCOIN : yep
[2017-01-27 08:02:05] FreeBitcoins : Its pretty simple. Its this or that. I just weigh the risk or breaking upwards vs downwards and set a stop past any nasty wicks.
[2017-01-27 08:02:23] FreeBitcoins : Thats why its FreeBitcoins
[2017-01-27 08:02:50] YOLOCOIN : this joint is over
[2017-01-27 08:03:57] YOLOCOIN : put in a small short at 917
[2017-01-27 08:04:02] YOLOCOIN : should have put more
[2017-01-27 08:06:05] Putin : Get out while you can
[2017-01-27 08:06:49] VenCap : they wont dump it on new years day
[2017-01-27 08:06:56] VenCap : thats the worst luck ever for rest of year
[2017-01-27 08:07:01] rapidgains : good luck with the shorts
[2017-01-27 08:08:56] FreeBitcoins : VenCap: lol could be a year bear market then
[2017-01-27 08:09:19] VenCap : FreeBitcoins: which would suck.
[2017-01-27 08:09:46] FreeBitcoins : VenCap: yeah i guess it would
[2017-01-27 08:09:53] MikeHunt : bear til we are near new mean
[2017-01-27 08:10:06] MikeHunt : http://i.imgur.com/1tvTYYe.png
[2017-01-27 08:16:00] Noobz : morning peepz
[2017-01-27 08:22:45] Noobz : Now that everything is settled another day of sideways?
[2017-01-27 08:23:26] MikeHunt : Noobz: my guess is the bulls will continue to try and prop this up
[2017-01-27 08:23:49] MikeHunt : but inevitably fail
[2017-01-27 08:25:50] Noobz : Lets hope they give a little more actions that 1 or 2 % fluctuations
[2017-01-27 08:49:50] enki0182 : MikeHunt: you may be right
[2017-01-27 08:56:48] Putin : To the moon we go ;)
[2017-01-27 09:35:38] cryptobull : close your shorts...
[2017-01-27 09:40:43] wurstgelee : no, open more oO
[2017-01-27 09:40:50] wurstgelee : i have orders to be filled
[2017-01-27 09:40:57] micmix : or open bigger shorts, futures are in backwardation again...
[2017-01-27 09:44:22] FreeBitcoins : bit of chop until we can shape the next 4hr
[2017-01-27 09:48:59] arbitrage101 : getting expensive to short bitcoin
[2017-01-27 09:52:35] BTC-Noob : is that a dump incoming or should i long
[2017-01-27 09:53:14] cryptobull : "[10:35] cryptobull: close your shorts..."
[2017-01-27 09:53:23] cryptobull : 920+?
[2017-01-27 09:53:27] rapidgains : cryptobull
[2017-01-27 09:53:28] rapidgains : my nikka
[2017-01-27 09:53:48] arbitrage101 : rapidgains: what happen to rapidtrades
[2017-01-27 09:54:13] rapidgains : prob got rekt
[2017-01-27 10:13:28] Waverider83 : hi
[2017-01-27 10:13:41] Waverider83 : how to install nodejs npm package for bitmex realtime?
[2017-01-27 10:14:31] Waverider83 : https://github.com/BitMEX/api-connectors/tree/master/official-ws/nodejs
[2017-01-27 10:20:06] rapidgains : who was the guy talking about strat in here a few days ago?
[2017-01-27 10:20:22] bingbongfly : lets dump etc before settlement
[2017-01-27 10:27:38] abz : Chinese New Year is coming, expect wild moves http://zentrade.online/bitcoinusd-price-action-analysis-bitmex-perpetual-swap-xbtusd-update-20170127/
[2017-01-27 10:46:56] BitMEX_Wally : Waverider83: You need to install node: https://nodejs.org/en/download/
[2017-01-27 11:03:54] sciack : it is already CNY
[2017-01-27 11:08:29] abz : sciack: Ha-ha!
[2017-01-27 11:09:17] abz : sciack: dumping bots can get out of control
[2017-01-27 11:11:14] moo : lol shill is trying to get his sell sell orders filled
[2017-01-27 11:11:14] sciack : what?
[2017-01-27 11:11:22] sciack : I am long idiots
[2017-01-27 11:11:30] -_- : sweet mother of china
[2017-01-27 11:11:51] -_- : time to short and come back in a week
[2017-01-27 11:15:20] FreeBitcoins : set stops in the 960s and ride this bitch into the 60s
[2017-01-27 11:15:25] abz : BTCCNY/USDCNH spread is shrinking for the 3-rd day in the row. Yuan is returning back home.
[2017-01-27 11:15:32] FreeBitcoins : *600s
[2017-01-27 11:40:07] Khilone : When do withdraws of bitcoin happen on Bitmex?
[2017-01-27 11:40:49] lockhedge : in 79 minutes
[2017-01-27 11:41:12] Khilone : Awesome. Thanks.
[2017-01-27 11:44:36] aethlios : will the bear army attack on weekend? let's wait and see.
[2017-01-27 11:59:50] RocketScience : settlement finally
[2017-01-27 12:01:27] RocketScience : how long does it take for market maker to recalibrate
[2017-01-27 12:03:40] RocketScience : 20% spreads.....
[2017-01-27 12:04:14] PARAFFIN : Soon lift up
[2017-01-27 12:04:19] PARAFFIN : Rocket boy
[2017-01-27 12:04:22] PARAFFIN : =)
[2017-01-27 12:04:35] PARAFFIN : lift off*
[2017-01-27 12:05:02] RocketScience : in btc?
[2017-01-27 12:05:14] PARAFFIN : Yes
[2017-01-27 12:06:08] PARAFFIN : and this is not ariane5
[2017-01-27 12:08:37] PARAFFIN : buy the bottom
[2017-01-27 12:30:55] abz : According to Arthur Hayes Co-Founder & CEO, BitMEX selling pressure will continue until mid-February, if...
[2017-01-27 12:31:32] abz : one of these three following black swan events transpire before the expiry of March 2017 futures
[2017-01-27 12:31:51] abz : 1. The PBOC aggressively devalues the Yuan
[2017-01-27 12:32:07] abz : 2. Marine Le Pineapple Pen is polling well in French elections
[2017-01-27 12:32:24] abz : 3. Trump passes a massive infrastructure spending bill
[2017-01-27 12:32:52] abz : source: BitMEX Crypto Trader Digest Jan 27, 2017
[2017-01-27 12:34:24] aethlios : 1200 btc bid maech okcoin
[2017-01-27 12:34:47] rapidgains : good thing bitmex is a follower exchange!
[2017-01-27 12:46:51] aethlios : rapidgains: changes account??
[2017-01-27 12:52:05] Derreck : 8888 after the New Year
[2017-01-27 13:00:34] yungyang : Why does yuan devaluation create selling pressure for btc?
[2017-01-27 13:01:03] yungyang : Selling to dollars?
[2017-01-27 13:10:01] herpinator : more than 2x the selling pressure than buy in the same 17 dollar range
[2017-01-27 13:13:35] abz : yungyang: selling pressure is because " fund-operators must undertake when they pay back investors"
[2017-01-27 13:14:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 1 @ 911.55 :punch: :whale:
[2017-01-27 13:14:02] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 20000 @ 911.57
[2017-01-27 13:15:15] Derreck : 0kcoin flirting with 6400 again
[2017-01-27 13:15:50] rapidgains : rip quarter shorts
[2017-01-27 13:16:00] rapidgains : $10 discount gone
[2017-01-27 13:17:43] Sultan Pepper : Rekt: lol
[2017-01-27 13:31:04] VenCap : Hello guys. i am back for Moar.
[2017-01-27 13:31:11] VenCap : Feeling lucky, like Golden Rooster
[2017-01-27 13:31:15] VenCap : :rooster:
[2017-01-27 13:33:00] birdie numn : VenCap: but how when market goes sideways?
[2017-01-27 13:33:31] VenCap : i suspect $920 will be breached here today. looks like they are trying to hit $950 over weekend
[2017-01-27 13:35:23] sleger : "we" ?
[2017-01-27 13:35:31] sleger : "they" ?
[2017-01-27 13:36:03] VenCap : sleger: yes... the people who know.
[2017-01-27 13:36:07] VenCap : :wink:
[2017-01-27 13:36:14] sleger : ohhhhhh these people
[2017-01-27 13:36:29] sleger : you watch too much TV
[2017-01-27 13:39:21] VenCap : sleger: i watch very little tv, thanks to staring at charts and exchanges all day
[2017-01-27 13:41:11] yueyi2017 : <reflink banned>
[2017-01-27 13:46:35] sleger : yueyi2017: what is that ?
[2017-01-27 13:46:46] sleger : BAN
[2017-01-27 13:47:09] yueyi2017 : this is okcoin link , but band by system
[2017-01-27 13:48:01] sleger : this is your personal invite link you mean ?
[2017-01-27 13:48:09] chromaticcr1 : No ads here | 別打小广告
[2017-01-27 13:48:17] sleger : yueyi2017: BAN THIS IDIOT
[2017-01-27 13:48:21] rapidgains : pls
[2017-01-27 13:48:27] yueyi2017 : sleger: yes
[2017-01-27 13:48:38] sleger : even he is ok with being banned ^
[2017-01-27 13:51:27] Noobz : Lol
[2017-01-27 13:57:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: sell 2 @ 0.003550
[2017-01-27 14:09:20] BTC-Noob : reks incoming in 3 , 2 , 1
[2017-01-27 14:31:41] charlyko : hi mates. how are u doing today!
[2017-01-27 14:31:57] charlyko : I´m still holding my long 4 days now
[2017-01-27 14:34:26] herpinator : don't forget to pay yourself and take profits
[2017-01-27 14:36:51] charlyko : yeah
[2017-01-27 14:41:59] Apocalyptic : haven't seen volatility this low since a long time
[2017-01-27 14:46:00] Tux26 : Apocalyptic: https://btcvol.info/
[2017-01-27 14:46:02] BitMEX_Sam : Yep, it's pretty stale today.
[2017-01-27 14:46:19] BitMEX_Sam : See also https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.BVOL24H
[2017-01-27 14:46:21] Tux26 : It was way lower (about 1%) before the >$1000 pump
[2017-01-27 14:46:45] ronensinger : My bots are a disaster today
[2017-01-27 14:46:53] BitMEX_Sam : True. .BVOL (https://www.bitmex.com/app/index/.BVOL) is still ticking high due to the massive movements around the 5th
[2017-01-27 15:11:41] Vijuu : Sellers get profit now
[2017-01-27 15:12:52] Vijuu : China anytime destroy btc huge selling of second round coming tomorrow
[2017-01-27 15:35:04] cryptokeeper : lol
[2017-01-27 15:36:41] abbey : looking good
[2017-01-27 15:37:27] cryptokeeper : we are going up up up today
[2017-01-27 15:37:31] cryptokeeper : 930-940-950
[2017-01-27 15:37:43] cryptokeeper : buy now or cry later
[2017-01-27 15:38:25] atodorov07 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eghqSAD3dXw
[2017-01-27 15:40:21] Noobz : lots of fomo or what?
[2017-01-27 15:40:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1000 @ 919.65
[2017-01-27 15:40:31] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 6700 @ 919.80
[2017-01-27 15:40:57] rapidgains : this is sad, stamp has led last two pumps, what has bitcoin trading become
[2017-01-27 15:41:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 2000 @ 920.54
[2017-01-27 15:41:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 1353 @ 920.51
[2017-01-27 15:41:35] abbey : rapidgains: fun
[2017-01-27 15:41:59] cryptokeeper : liquidate all those shorts
[2017-01-27 15:44:00] aethlios : okcoin below 10 million usd value of volume, market has no leader exchange now. like a boat with broken engine in the middle of the ocean.
[2017-01-27 15:46:28] BitMEX_Sam : Clearly pascalcoin is our new leader
[2017-01-27 15:46:54] BitMEX_Sam : The boat has no rudder but it's filled with nerf guns
[2017-01-27 15:47:22] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Sam: no rudder but 4 hp engines
[2017-01-27 15:47:26] wurstgelee : and its made from lead
[2017-01-27 15:50:35] Sultan Pepper : Dojis of uncertainty
[2017-01-27 15:52:50] jzayy : WTF I opened a short on ETC last night and it isn't showing up now
[2017-01-27 15:53:12] jzayy : Says I sold short and no record of me buying any back
[2017-01-27 15:53:20] Teddy76 : jzayy: settled
[2017-01-27 15:53:28] jzayy : damn
[2017-01-27 16:10:19] arbitrage101 : new year now yo
[2017-01-27 16:10:31] arbitrage101 : price to 1000 soon
[2017-01-27 16:11:46] Shaman : happy new year
[2017-01-27 16:31:46] espadon : is there a simulator in bitmex ?
[2017-01-27 16:32:17] RocketScience : bitmex test
[2017-01-27 16:32:24] RocketScience : google it
[2017-01-27 16:32:59] RocketScience : testnet
[2017-01-27 16:33:00] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Sam: hey Sam are you still here?
[2017-01-27 16:44:10] yungyang : DUUUUUUUUUMMMPPPPPPP
[2017-01-27 16:52:48] FreeBitcoins : wasnt it supposed to go straight to 940?
[2017-01-27 16:54:26] airitout : so, a 1000 by end of February?
[2017-01-27 16:54:31] airitout : or not?
[2017-01-27 16:54:46] FreeBitcoins : shes gonna shit the bed
[2017-01-27 16:55:32] FreeBitcoins : I was expecting a 921 wick on the 4hr but will be surprised if it charges for 940 after the rejection
[2017-01-27 17:01:22] Sultan Pepper : Testnet.bitmex I think
[2017-01-27 17:30:41] BitMEX_Greg : AudibleScience: I'm here, whats up
[2017-01-27 17:31:01] BitMEX_Greg : espadon: testnet.bitmex.com
[2017-01-27 17:42:05] Sultan Pepper : ?????<crickets
[2017-01-27 17:52:13] Chewie : coming up to a good buy soon
[2017-01-27 17:53:35] Sultan Pepper : Where you lookin to buy in?
[2017-01-27 17:56:29] Sultan Pepper : Chewie
[2017-01-27 17:57:50] Yuppie : Sultan Pepper: pretty much sums it up
[2017-01-27 17:58:18] Sultan Pepper : You think this is the bottom?
[2017-01-27 17:58:23] Yuppie : mood / sentiment here seems to be neutral now
[2017-01-27 18:00:01] Yuppie : Tough future still at a discount
[2017-01-27 18:03:41] Yuppie : Alts again with high volumes today
[2017-01-27 18:07:49] charlyko : down we go
[2017-01-27 18:10:44] MikeHunt : trend is down
[2017-01-27 18:10:51] MikeHunt : bulls will fight until they cant afford to prop it up more
[2017-01-27 18:11:01] MikeHunt : either that or a gradual decline to new mean
[2017-01-27 18:20:40] sleger : unzoom dummy
[2017-01-27 18:20:59] sleger : or maybe screen is upside down ?
[2017-01-27 18:23:07] llugo : it would still go up then
[2017-01-27 18:25:07] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Greg: are you still there?
[2017-01-27 18:26:29] llugo : bears are winter sleeping
[2017-01-27 18:29:58] BitMEX_Greg : AudibleScience: Yo
[2017-01-27 18:30:18] AudibleScience : yo
[2017-01-27 18:30:55] AudibleScience : I'm still trying to work out how to use the api
[2017-01-27 18:31:52] MikeHunt : sleger: which time interval?
[2017-01-27 18:32:41] BitMEX_Greg : AudibleScience: What are you trying to work out
[2017-01-27 18:33:20] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Greg: can you tell me what format the "start" field needs please?
[2017-01-27 18:35:50] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Greg: If I put this into google spreadsheets: =IMPORTDATA("https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/trade?symbol=XBT24H&count=500&reverse=false")
[2017-01-27 18:36:20] AudibleScience : It only pulls 1 record...
[2017-01-27 18:36:27] BitMEX_Greg : We delisted XBT24H a while back
[2017-01-27 18:36:50] AudibleScience : yeah I know
[2017-01-27 18:37:06] AudibleScience : but the trades data is still there right?
[2017-01-27 18:37:31] AudibleScience : so how do I specify a date range?
[2017-01-27 18:38:06] AudibleScience : here: https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/Trade/Trade_get
[2017-01-27 18:38:41] BitMEX_Greg : I'm not 100% sure, may need to ask Sam when he is on, but try in format: `2016-05-13T12:00:00.000Z`
[2017-01-27 18:42:04] AudibleScience : BitMEX_Greg: I get a "'start' must be a number." error message
[2017-01-27 18:42:47] BitMEX_Sam : AudibleScience: https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/trade?symbol=.XBT&count=500&reverse=false&filter={%22startTime%22:%20%222015-01-01%22}
[2017-01-27 18:43:07] BitMEX_Sam : The `XBT24H` data is archived, but the `.XBT` index is not; I assume you're looking for historical XBT prices
[2017-01-27 18:44:40] AudibleScience : oh is the XBT24H data not there anymore then?
[2017-01-27 18:44:42] BitMEX_Sam : See https://www.bitmex.com/app/restAPI#Timestamp-Filters for timestamp filters
[2017-01-27 18:44:56] BitMEX_Sam : No; we could pull it from archives if needed
[2017-01-27 18:46:29] BitMEX_Sam : Try https://www.bitmex.com/api/v1/trade?symbol=.XBT30M&count=500&filter={%22timestamp.year%22:%20%222016%22}&columns=price&_format=csv for nice csv output
[2017-01-27 19:24:33] abbey : weee
[2017-01-27 19:46:11] Ugly_Old_Goat : Cause it expired this morning
[2017-01-27 19:46:25] Ugly_Old_Goat : Good Morning Ladies
[2017-01-27 19:46:42] Ugly_Old_Goat : Or Good Afternoon
[2017-01-27 19:51:31] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: By what measure is trend down? Bull market from 200 to almost 1200, Selloff for Johny come latellies Selloff to support and trendup every since with tremendous inverse arb
[2017-01-27 19:53:38] Ugly_Old_Goat : I hope we do go down but very unlikely. Meanwhile the shorts keep paying me for long positions I purchase under 780. Who is squeezed? Not longs who sold over 1000 and buying now
[2017-01-27 19:55:01] Ugly_Old_Goat : In order to go up we had to take out the weak hands which is mission complete
[2017-01-27 19:56:44] Ugly_Old_Goat : The question is did you sell out over 1000 and buy back under 800? Or did you buy over 1000 and sellout under 800. Most of the selling here was forced by margin liquidation
[2017-01-27 19:58:45] Ugly_Old_Goat : I was traveling and even got blown out at 750 and had to repurchase at 765. Thought I have plenty to cover but with btc you never know. Fortuately I was also able to double up at 735
[2017-01-27 20:00:23] Ugly_Old_Goat : Only started to be a light seller above 910 but not expecting any major drop. That has already happened and is simply wishful thinking by those who missed this dip.
[2017-01-27 20:03:07] Ugly_Old_Goat : It is possible this is a double top, but fundamentals do not support that idea. Consolidation with major leg up is most likely scenario . Weak hands will get blown out again and scared money are afraid to buy Mch which remains at a major discount and should be 20-30 over spot.
[2017-01-27 20:04:26] RocketScience : lol
[2017-01-27 20:05:15] Ugly_Old_Goat : Bitcoin is only legitimate blockchain and alts have proven this time and again. Anyway good luck, But selling into this has been a very bad idea and nothing has changed.
[2017-01-27 20:06:50] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: simply because the china pump is dead
[2017-01-27 20:06:54] Ugly_Old_Goat : Well, only thing has changed as the market goes up you are paying less for holding perp. But the rise has more than made up for it. My average keeps going down
[2017-01-27 20:07:00] Yuppie : troll bears disappeared here though...I'd call it a neutral sentiment at the moment
[2017-01-27 20:08:57] MikeHunt : also china bank holidays this week
[2017-01-27 20:09:04] MikeHunt : so no more new cash flow even from capital flight
[2017-01-27 20:09:10] MikeHunt : same applies to bitfinex
[2017-01-27 20:09:17] Ugly_Old_Goat : The china pump only contribute to over speculation. There were all kinds of signals to dump longs. Especially here when March exploded to 150+ over perp. Sellers made a killing, but that is history. We have a reset , but value remains excllent
[2017-01-27 20:10:07] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: exactly, so no more overspeculation = new mean
[2017-01-27 20:10:39] MikeHunt : http://i.imgur.com/1tvTYYe.png
[2017-01-27 20:10:51] MikeHunt : correction towards new mean then continue upwards
[2017-01-27 20:11:33] Ugly_Old_Goat : I did not short the highs but dumped all my spec longs over 1140 . I started buing at 876 and added all the way down to 735. The next leg should be up and it should be massive. And we will do same song and dance all over again
[2017-01-27 20:12:21] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: we lost pump volume ~13th jan
[2017-01-27 20:12:32] MikeHunt : means data before/after are different
[2017-01-27 20:12:32] Yuppie : Agree, If we go up it should be fast...even on low volumes
[2017-01-27 20:12:47] Ugly_Old_Goat : Yes, but the smart money was selling over 1100 and buying under 800 so where do you think the market is heading?
[2017-01-27 20:12:56] MikeHunt : Yuppie: where is that volume going to come from? week of bank holidays in china
[2017-01-27 20:14:41] Yuppie : Japan perhaps? Rest of the world? It doesn't matter how many buyers and sellers you have just who is more eager to buy or sell
[2017-01-27 20:16:06] Ugly_Old_Goat : You give way too much credence to the Chinese and non-existant volume. If you bot into the fake volume then you were also one of the many buyers over 1100
[2017-01-27 20:16:28] MikeHunt : Yuppie: we'll see i guess, if japan can take chinas shoes
[2017-01-27 20:16:33] Ugly_Old_Goat : The volume was fake as the exchanges now admit
[2017-01-27 20:16:51] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: im talking about margin trading
[2017-01-27 20:16:54] Ugly_Old_Goat : No one needs to take any ones shoes
[2017-01-27 20:17:22] MikeHunt : also not all volume is fake
[2017-01-27 20:17:33] MikeHunt : no fees = less risk when trading
[2017-01-27 20:17:40] Ugly_Old_Goat : Your chart is based on faked data which you apparently still beliive
[2017-01-27 20:17:54] MikeHunt : how do you know which chart i am using?
[2017-01-27 20:17:57] MikeHunt : what data is on it?
[2017-01-27 20:18:37] Yuppie : I think we saw some miner hedging at okcoin in the futures the last days; my only explaination for the massive discount
[2017-01-27 20:19:21] sleger : no its because there is one account (likely short) with a position of 370k
[2017-01-27 20:19:50] Yuppie : I think this is a downside risk, persistant pressure on futures; hedging volume now matters mire with spot vols diwn 95%
[2017-01-27 20:20:14] sleger : no
[2017-01-27 20:30:23] Ugly_Old_Goat : MikeHunt: Your data says China pump mean and no China pump mean and then you draw arbitrary lines. Its nonsense. This is the nonsense you posted http://i.imgur.com/1tvTYYe.png
[2017-01-27 20:31:27] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: perhaps you have difficulty understanding some things :)
[2017-01-27 20:31:38] Ugly_Old_Goat : The volume was fake. The market rose of the faked volume. With no fees I can both buy and sell and the same price and fake the market up or down
[2017-01-27 20:32:20] Ugly_Old_Goat : Yes, I do not comprehend nonsense and I mock foolishness
[2017-01-27 20:32:28] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: if you say so
[2017-01-27 20:35:22] Ugly_Old_Goat : I have said the before and I will say it again. This derivative market is the best run market anywhere. It is structured properly. It charges fees but pays market makers.
[2017-01-27 20:37:00] Ugly_Old_Goat : It offers insane margin requirements but that is the draw for foolish get rich quick traders. So it attracts volume for the wise and the fooilish
[2017-01-27 20:37:44] Ugly_Old_Goat : It also has a mechanism to absorb the losses generated by the fools at the expense of the wise.
[2017-01-27 20:39:56] Ugly_Old_Goat : Again, the developers know what they are doing. And is an extremely useful hedging tool.
[2017-01-27 20:42:04] Ugly_Old_Goat : But you want to succeed you need to maintain 4-5 times what is need for cross margin, especially for the situations like we had this month when everything got out of whack on the upside and then on the downside
[2017-01-27 20:52:03] Ugly_Old_Goat : If you trade here with less, well funded traders will eventually take all you have. So while I welcome underfunded speculators I do my best to teach them that this is a very bad practice. You can listen and learn the easy way or you can persist and learn the hard way.
[2017-01-27 20:53:33] Ugly_Old_Goat : This is the same advice I give to all my children. I always give them enough liberty to hang themselves and when they hang themselvesI give one final jerk to make sure they learn the lesson.
[2017-01-27 20:53:51] Ugly_Old_Goat : So if you want to call me a jerk you are right on target
[2017-01-27 20:54:31] abbey : you hear that mike?
[2017-01-27 20:55:57] abbey : papou?
[2017-01-27 21:05:30] Ugly_Old_Goat : As far as trading advice. I do not make phony recommendations. I let all know when I sell and buy. I sold our here over 1000 as soon as I paid over 1btc just for the privilegie to be long. I kept my long elsehere but dumped them at ocwe 1130,
[2017-01-27 21:07:33] Ugly_Old_Goat : My view is that I can give the best advice in the world but few will listen. Plus tactics (where to buy and sell) is secondary to money management. You can be the worst trader in the world (as sometimes I am) and still come out ahead if you know how to manage you funds but that is another story for another day.
[2017-01-27 21:08:32] Ugly_Old_Goat : Enough for now. I remain your Ugly Old Goat who loves being a jerk for your own well being.
[2017-01-27 21:12:54] BitFan : Ugly_Old_Goat: please go on it's very boring otherwise
[2017-01-27 21:13:37] FreeBitcoins : my CNY alerts just woke me
[2017-01-27 21:13:54] FreeBitcoins : oh look, a fucking oracle
[2017-01-27 21:15:46] Ugly_Old_Goat : No I am done. They censor me if I start talking abut my personal problems. I get censored (not banned) when I mention it is a time for a Depends change
[2017-01-27 21:16:50] BitFan : you can stick to btc trading
[2017-01-27 21:21:46] FreeBitcoins : I got up for the cny sell off. Had it scheduled in and couldn't miss it
[2017-01-27 21:22:04] BitFan : so was it worth?
[2017-01-27 21:22:26] FreeBitcoins : bloody oath
[2017-01-27 21:22:42] JuriFX : market not moving :(
[2017-01-27 21:22:49] BitFan : falling asleep
[2017-01-27 21:23:05] JuriFX : come on choyna come back
[2017-01-27 21:24:21] BitFan : any interesting theory on next market moves?
[2017-01-27 21:25:31] FreeBitcoins : BitFan: by 7 days we will see 4000 cny
[2017-01-27 21:27:55] FreeBitcoins : back to sleep.... zzzz
[2017-01-27 21:28:08] BitFan : almost
[2017-01-27 21:28:19] BitFan : so boring tonight
[2017-01-27 21:28:56] BitFan : even miketrump left
[2017-01-27 21:29:08] FreeBitcoins : pretty sure will wake to some action to kick off the day
[2017-01-27 21:29:38] BitFan : what timezone are you ?
[2017-01-27 21:29:42] lockhedge : perpetual swap on BitMEX is now more liquid than any Chinese spot market. CNY price is not important anymore, price discovery is now on us ;)
[2017-01-27 21:29:48] JuriFX : want to go long but no movement to fill my limit orders mhhh
[2017-01-27 21:30:52] BitFan : JuriFX: I guess you don't want to see 4000 cny
[2017-01-27 21:31:11] JuriFX : no I'm vers hort term trading 5m chart
[2017-01-27 21:31:26] JuriFX : then it can go down as much as it wants+
[2017-01-27 21:31:34] FreeBitcoins : BitFan: dark side of the moon +MT 1000
[2017-01-27 21:32:10] FreeBitcoins : throw a fat bid on 916 you will get filled
[2017-01-27 21:33:29] BitFan : is it day or night in the moon? @FreeBitcoins
[2017-01-27 21:34:20] FreeBitcoins : BitFan: dark side so I guess its night
[2017-01-27 21:35:08] JuriFX : last trade was 33 min ago, see you when market moves again, take care, market is dead right now
[2017-01-27 21:35:32] BitFan : i'm leaving too
[2017-01-27 21:35:34] MikeHunt : i think it will drift outside the rising wedge
[2017-01-27 21:35:35] MikeHunt : then plop
[2017-01-27 21:36:31] BitFan : down to 4k cny?
[2017-01-27 21:37:14] sleger : mikehunt is very famous for predicting a price of 400
[2017-01-27 21:37:19] sleger : or 80k, it depends
[2017-01-27 21:37:52] MikeHunt : 80k cny*
[2017-01-27 21:37:54] BitFan : what's the prediction today?
[2017-01-27 21:38:43] MikeHunt : BitFan: let me check... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkNRzIVish8&t=1m49s
[2017-01-27 21:40:06] rapidtrades : constant fee rape for shorts as price goes up
[2017-01-27 21:40:14] rapidtrades : and its not rigged?
[2017-01-27 21:40:26] rapidtrades : im so close to just market closing this bulshit
[2017-01-27 21:40:50] rapidtrades : my liq moved down by almost $30 due to this crap
[2017-01-27 21:40:56] rapidtrades : f*cking rigged
[2017-01-27 21:41:14] MikeHunt : BitFan: by noon tomoz if it stays flat then dump incoming maybe
[2017-01-27 21:41:14] arbitrage101 : there are cheaper place to short
[2017-01-27 21:41:44] arbitrage101 : risk of trading here is that really that much difference than trading at elsewhere
[2017-01-27 21:41:50] rapidtrades : Us regulators will step in next, then HK or whatever these fly-by-night operations are based
[2017-01-27 21:42:10] arbitrage101 : not that much difference i mean
[2017-01-27 21:42:17] rapidtrades : it's being manipulated
[2017-01-27 21:42:35] arbitrage101 : how do you define manipulation
[2017-01-27 21:42:39] rapidtrades : it's being manipulated
[2017-01-27 21:42:44] MikeHunt : its obvious
[2017-01-27 21:42:53] arbitrage101 : you can buy and sell easily on other exchanges
[2017-01-27 21:43:07] MikeHunt : someone sells 20BTC then a bot buys a few at a higher price to keep it up
[2017-01-27 21:43:12] rapidtrades : I wouldn't mind paying a fee if price was moving in my favor but this is clear bullshit
[2017-01-27 21:43:32] rapidtrades : defective product
[2017-01-27 21:43:42] BitFan : price is not moving at all
[2017-01-27 21:44:12] rapidtrades : sry shit connection seems to be sending duplicated messages
[2017-01-27 21:44:32] MikeHunt : apparently a lot of traders are moving to other assets to trade cuz of btc basically being on lifesupport
[2017-01-27 21:44:51] aoraki : hey Bitfan!
[2017-01-27 21:45:00] BitFan : you should trade pascalcoin if you want to see some action
[2017-01-27 21:45:12] BitFan : aoraki: hola
[2017-01-27 21:45:26] confused : arent the interest rates on finex used to calculate funding rates?
[2017-01-27 21:46:49] rapidgains : you talking about funding?
[2017-01-27 21:46:54] confused : yes
[2017-01-27 21:47:11] rapidgains : i got tired of that bs and moved to quarter
[2017-01-27 21:47:48] rapidtrades : confused: not anymore, now it's just premium discount to spot
[2017-01-27 21:47:51] rapidtrades : its a joke
[2017-01-27 21:48:48] rapidtrades : they're keeping it just slightly below spot, cos they know 0.35% is the max rape
[2017-01-27 21:49:00] confused : so the interest rates on finex are no longer in calculation?
[2017-01-27 21:50:01] confused : how is the rate being calculated?
[2017-01-27 21:50:14] confused : can someone share the formula?
[2017-01-27 21:50:40] sleger : confused: click on references
[2017-01-27 21:50:43] sleger : stop being confused
[2017-01-27 21:51:28] confused : sleger: that formula has finex interest rates in it
[2017-01-27 21:51:54] confused : rapidtrades: is saying thats not the formula
[2017-01-27 21:51:56] rapidtrades : this is turning into a casino while prices basically flat-lines
[2017-01-27 21:51:57] rapidtrades : i lost 4-5% due to this scam while being 'hedged'
[2017-01-27 21:51:59] rapidtrades : lost another 1% due to ADL re-entry
[2017-01-27 21:52:03] sleger : he's wrong
[2017-01-27 21:52:05] lockhedge : confused: finex rates only matter if they are within 0.05% of the premium index
[2017-01-27 21:52:23] lockhedge : https://www.bitmex.com/app/contract/XBTUSD
[2017-01-27 21:54:53] rapidtrades : which they never are
[2017-01-27 21:55:35] rapidtrades : like I said, i wouldn''t mind if prices were going down but this is an obvious scam going on while we're flat
[2017-01-27 21:56:09] rapidtrades : bitmex needs to investigate this shit or experienced traders will not touch swap again
[2017-01-27 21:56:19] confused : shouldnt the rates be flat if price is flat?
[2017-01-27 21:56:44] confused : or close to flat
[2017-01-27 21:56:48] rapidtrades : yes they should
[2017-01-27 21:57:11] rapidtrades : but with china out of the game, its become much easier to manipulate the west
[2017-01-27 21:57:28] lockhedge : all futures (except from long term futures on CF) are trading at a discount, why should the swap trade at a premium then?