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[2017-01-25 16:06:28] VenCap : perpetual swap (x100) ?
[2017-01-25 16:06:39] BitMEX_Wally : Perpetual Swap (100x) is XBTUSD Mar 31 (100x) is XBTH17
[2017-01-25 16:07:04] VenCap : compeltely lost
[2017-01-25 16:07:14] Shaman : each tab has sub-tabs
[2017-01-25 16:07:19] VenCap : why does it says Mar 31 ?
[2017-01-25 16:07:27] VenCap : ok, i see it now.
[2017-01-25 16:07:28] BitMEX_Wally : Because it expires on 31 March
[2017-01-25 16:07:35] VenCap : what does expire mean?
[2017-01-25 16:07:41] VenCap : i buy and have to wait till end of MArch?
[2017-01-25 16:07:46] BitMEX_Wally : No
[2017-01-25 16:07:55] BitMEX_Wally : It means your position will be closed on 31 March if you still have one
[2017-01-25 16:08:06] VenCap : aah ok.
[2017-01-25 16:08:13] VenCap : so 1st one is "swap"
[2017-01-25 16:08:19] VenCap : what does (100x) mean?
[2017-01-25 16:08:26] BitMEX_Wally : max levearge
[2017-01-25 16:08:32] VenCap : whoa. max carnage
[2017-01-25 16:08:38] VenCap : so i certainly do not want to touch that
[2017-01-25 16:08:51] kogroken : You can use less leverage as well
[2017-01-25 16:08:54] VenCap : or does it mean UP TO 100x ?
[2017-01-25 16:08:57] VenCap : ah ha.
[2017-01-25 16:09:01] kogroken : yeah
[2017-01-25 16:09:04] VenCap : ok.
[2017-01-25 16:09:07] VenCap : and no funding fee?
[2017-01-25 16:09:23] VenCap : wait, wally answered before, fee is built in
[2017-01-25 16:09:30] VenCap : i think this system is better no?
[2017-01-25 16:10:10] kogroken : Depends
[2017-01-25 16:11:02] kogroken : In the end funding rate / trade fees don't matter too much, unless market is very sideways or you open and close very often
[2017-01-25 16:11:29] VenCap : i see, i tend to hold position open till death or glory
[2017-01-25 16:13:41] VenCap : will keep this short open till $500 USD
[2017-01-25 16:14:12] Farzad : time to short boyz
[2017-01-25 16:14:25] VenCap : Farzad: amen to that
[2017-01-25 16:14:35] -_- : i dont see this going down any more
[2017-01-25 16:14:41] -_- : if it was going to dump it would have already
[2017-01-25 16:15:45] Farzad : I think it will go down to 884 at least
[2017-01-25 16:16:17] Farzad : currently it is on the top of the triangle
[2017-01-25 16:16:53] Farzad : http://www.tradingview.com/x/ycq4rSsU
[2017-01-25 16:17:36] VenCap : whoa Farzad looking at that chart
[2017-01-25 16:17:43] VenCap : major red candles about to join the party
[2017-01-25 16:19:00] Farzad : if it can break 880 support level, we will see some tall red canmdles
[2017-01-25 16:19:56] Farzad : you may place some stop market orders below 880
[2017-01-25 16:19:58] VenCap : Farzad: agreed
[2017-01-25 16:20:55] keesverhoeven : If we all go short like crazies it's going down right? ;)
[2017-01-25 16:21:09] Farzad : sure
[2017-01-25 16:21:36] keesverhoeven : Lets :)
[2017-01-25 16:21:58] Farzad : OK I am pushing down now !
[2017-01-25 16:22:08] Farzad : with all my strenght
[2017-01-25 16:22:28] Farzad : strength*
[2017-01-25 16:22:45] Farzad : hummmmmmmmm
[2017-01-25 16:22:58] Farzad : seems it is working boyz
[2017-01-25 16:22:59] Farzad : lol
[2017-01-25 16:23:36] keesverhoeven : See :)
[2017-01-25 16:24:22] FreeBitcoins : rekt
[2017-01-25 16:24:56] Farzad : FreeBitcoins: Can I have some free bitcoins ?
[2017-01-25 16:25:37] FreeBitcoins : Farzad: yeah sure, take them from the trade engine
[2017-01-25 16:26:28] VenCap : Farzad: go long take some of my high funding fees
[2017-01-25 16:26:58] Farzad : Actually I am short and losing on funding like hell :(
[2017-01-25 16:28:21] Avalanche : bitstamp 894, bitfinex 891.5, huobi and okc also but index price is at 895.3 ? from where does it collect that info ?
[2017-01-25 16:29:23] Avalanche : pardon, mark price
[2017-01-25 16:29:58] rapidgains : okcoin
[2017-01-25 16:30:18] rapidgains : + bitstamp
[2017-01-25 16:31:21] -_- : okcoin usd $899 bitstamp $892
[2017-01-25 16:31:38] -_- : average of that which is 895.51 right now
[2017-01-25 16:37:26] Papou : yep
[2017-01-25 16:37:29] Papou : 840 next stop
[2017-01-25 16:37:32] Papou : future at 865
[2017-01-25 16:37:35] Papou : wont budge
[2017-01-25 16:37:37] Papou : thats not good
[2017-01-25 16:37:53] Papou : might see futures break under 800
[2017-01-25 16:37:58] Papou : 798 bottom skim
[2017-01-25 16:38:20] Papou : chinese fled to gold already
[2017-01-25 16:38:53] Farzad : 880 is the next stop
[2017-01-25 16:39:00] Farzad : it a strong support line
[2017-01-25 16:39:17] Papou : are u dumb
[2017-01-25 16:39:29] Papou : next dump will smash
[2017-01-25 16:39:51] Papou : its going to be the bull squeeze into chinese 840 longs
[2017-01-25 16:39:58] Papou : then they do next bull trap back up to 880
[2017-01-25 16:40:12] Papou : then final caputalation 740 or below honestly
[2017-01-25 16:40:20] Papou : im suspecting 550-650 consolidation may-jun
[2017-01-25 16:42:35] Farzad : well, my advice is to follow the market and dont try to predict it like that
[2017-01-25 16:43:20] Farzad : it may be $2000 in may-june
[2017-01-25 16:43:23] Farzad : who knows ?
[2017-01-25 16:43:46] Papou : thats highly unrealistic
[2017-01-25 16:43:47] Farzad : ride with market trends
[2017-01-25 16:43:49] Papou : considering many factors
[2017-01-25 16:43:49] CaptainDean : exactly, the dumb poeple are the one thinking they know the future
[2017-01-25 16:44:09] Papou : im presenting you logical reasoning
[2017-01-25 16:44:12] Papou : and why we are dumping
[2017-01-25 16:44:19] CaptainDean : that's fine
[2017-01-25 16:44:22] Papou : why will be break 2k, what is the logical reasoning
[2017-01-25 16:44:43] CaptainDean : even if it's highly unprobable
[2017-01-25 16:44:55] CaptainDean : it's a possiblity
[2017-01-25 16:45:28] -_- : no dump. only pump now. china happy
[2017-01-25 16:45:46] Farzad : why did bitcoin break from $1 to $1200 ? the same logic can be applied to it to break $2000
[2017-01-25 16:46:34] Farzad : it is supply and demand and speculation
[2017-01-25 16:46:38] -_- : the bots here shouldnt follow 0kcoin quarterly. that book is so thin. 1 person manipulating the whole thing which causes the price here to be out of wack
[2017-01-25 16:46:42] VenCap : demand right now is weak
[2017-01-25 16:47:40] Farzad : in long term perspective bitcoin is bullish 100%
[2017-01-25 16:48:05] -_- : quarterly here should follow the index price at least
[2017-01-25 16:49:09] -_- : 1 wall left on 0kcoin quarterly and bitmex xbth17 should be at 870
[2017-01-25 16:50:21] Papou : because farzad the chinese pumped it
[2017-01-25 16:50:25] Papou : and its why they exit pumped recently
[2017-01-25 16:50:58] Papou : its not coincidence massive parabolic pump in such a short time
[2017-01-25 16:51:03] Papou : then pboc/exchange fud...
[2017-01-25 16:51:05] Papou : right.
[2017-01-25 16:51:10] Papou : was chinese exit pump
[2017-01-25 16:51:18] Papou : fireworks begin jan 28
[2017-01-25 16:52:15] abbey : good feeling about this one
[2017-01-25 16:53:03] Papou : china loves to beat the west at things
[2017-01-25 16:53:09] Papou : bitcoin has been a great victory for them
[2017-01-25 16:53:42] Papou : i feel horrible for the bags over 1000
[2017-01-25 16:53:53] ZoNi : finally
[2017-01-25 16:53:59] ZoNi : quaterly breaking up
[2017-01-25 16:57:31] Papou : i think china realizes how dumb the west is
[2017-01-25 16:57:37] Papou : and they are just taunting the bulls at this point
[2017-01-25 17:01:22] cryptokeeper : it will be a slow bleed out
[2017-01-25 17:05:41] Ahhere : Guise did we dump yet I'm still bored
[2017-01-25 17:06:14] Ahhere : Should I close my longs or YOLO?
[2017-01-25 17:06:22] -_- : we spent the last 4 hours inching upwards for some reason
[2017-01-25 17:06:32] Ahhere : fucking honey badger
[2017-01-25 17:10:04] cryptokeeper : Ahhere: YOLO
[2017-01-25 17:12:22] -_- : someone on 0kcoin bought the price up a bit and added 500 btc. gonna take a while to defeat the bullwhales
[2017-01-25 17:12:46] cryptokeeper : -_-: patience grasshoppa ;)
[2017-01-25 17:14:03] cryptokeeper : it will turn down... and back up and back down... again and again...
[2017-01-25 17:14:03] Papou : adding 500 btc could be a short
[2017-01-25 17:14:10] Papou : okcoin isnt even majority short yet
[2017-01-25 17:14:18] Papou : bulls are hoping superman comes save them
[2017-01-25 17:39:23] thomaskikansha : okc spiked to 905
[2017-01-25 17:39:54] MikeHunt : Papou: its like on titanic, by time panic started, there were no boats left to escape on
[2017-01-25 17:39:59] MikeHunt : maybe no shorts left ;)
[2017-01-25 17:53:32] KyllingLolsson : Puttning on my shorts
[2017-01-25 17:55:38] Ugly_Old_Goat : Right now we could test the Jan highs or the Jan lows. But if we test the lows March will have little poltential
[2017-01-25 17:56:52] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: there is no power left in thing
[2017-01-25 17:57:04] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: china pump has been murdered by pboc
[2017-01-25 17:57:19] Ugly_Old_Goat : Spreaders are selling spot elsewhere and buying March to lock in 30 bucks. No reason to sell spot jere
[2017-01-25 17:59:59] Ugly_Old_Goat : The buyers here are strong hands. just like the sellears at 1200-1300. Thye were the srrong hands
[2017-01-25 18:00:55] Ugly_Old_Goat : Thje rubber band is sttreched. It is only a matter of time.
[2017-01-25 18:01:15] Ugly_Old_Goat : Does not mean it cannot strecth some more
[2017-01-25 18:01:53] Ugly_Old_Goat : But if it does , the n time to add more.
[2017-01-25 18:02:10] zanza : its hard to really arb here because ADL/DPL
[2017-01-25 18:02:37] MikeHunt : i suspect if this really does fomo down, ADL will start raping
[2017-01-25 18:02:40] Ugly_Old_Goat : Just like selling Marrch of 60+ and adding all the way to 160+
[2017-01-25 18:03:14] Ugly_Old_Goat : Time to cover and get where we need to be.
[2017-01-25 18:03:32] Ugly_Old_Goat : Inverse markets are rare olpportunityu
[2017-01-25 18:03:42] Papou : what strong hands bro
[2017-01-25 18:03:49] Papou : ppl say that to get ppl to hold so they can cash out instead of them
[2017-01-25 18:04:04] Papou : only chinese insiders had sells over 1100+
[2017-01-25 18:04:17] Papou : we were there very birefly, hit 8888 cny which is their lucky number and boom down
[2017-01-25 18:04:28] Papou : how can you not blatantly see manipulation
[2017-01-25 18:04:36] Yuppie : Does OKCoin charge borrowing on fututes margin?
[2017-01-25 18:04:42] Papou : yes
[2017-01-25 18:04:58] Ugly_Old_Goat : I am not Chiness and I solld evertying over 1100
[2017-01-25 18:04:59] Yuppie : So not like here..
[2017-01-25 18:05:33] Ugly_Old_Goat : I have been a buyer from 876 all the way down to 735 where I bot in a big way
[2017-01-25 18:05:53] Ugly_Old_Goat : It we test lows I will be a buyer again.
[2017-01-25 18:06:02] Yuppie : Anywhere I can see the details at OKCoin? Their website doesnt really explain...
[2017-01-25 18:06:38] MikeHunt : Yuppie: you mean like chart?
[2017-01-25 18:07:10] Yuppie : Yeah like borrowing rates for leverage on futures
[2017-01-25 18:07:18] -_- : 0kcoin you buy 10x or 20x and pay fee to enter your position
[2017-01-25 18:07:25] -_- : 10x or 20x leverage
[2017-01-25 18:07:29] Ugly_Old_Goat : what is the website your are talking about?
[2017-01-25 18:07:32] -_- : exit any time
[2017-01-25 18:07:34] Yuppie : Nothing else?
[2017-01-25 18:07:37] -_- : or wait till settlement
[2017-01-25 18:07:40] -_- : it's very basic
[2017-01-25 18:07:48] Yuppie : I see thanks
[2017-01-25 18:09:42] Ahhere : Are there any bulls left guise?
[2017-01-25 18:09:48] Ahhere : who is buying?
[2017-01-25 18:10:14] MikeHunt : cant be good wen u have a small position short and 5 ADL lights
[2017-01-25 18:11:17] Ahhere : feels elastic band'y
[2017-01-25 18:11:18] Papou : i know right LOL
[2017-01-25 18:11:30] Ugly_Old_Goat : I am a buyer,be could potential with low rish
[2017-01-25 18:11:33] Papou : cny and future have such negative premium
[2017-01-25 18:11:35] Papou : everyone is loaded
[2017-01-25 18:11:40] Papou : ride the bearwhale boys
[2017-01-25 18:11:56] Ahhere : half of us will cry - we should buy the losers some beers or sth
[2017-01-25 18:12:00] -_- : i'll believe it when it starts dumping
[2017-01-25 18:12:25] Ahhere : some trezors for their no coins
[2017-01-25 18:12:28] Ugly_Old_Goat : Just keep paying me every 8 hours
[2017-01-25 18:12:41] Ugly_Old_Goat : Lets see who runs out of money first
[2017-01-25 18:13:51] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: this thing tanks quickly
[2017-01-25 18:13:54] MikeHunt : dont get too confident
[2017-01-25 18:13:55] MikeHunt : ;)
[2017-01-25 18:14:13] Ugly_Old_Goat : March is 30 under spot. Perp is 3 under spot and pays me 3 times a day. Both best buys in btc markets
[2017-01-25 18:14:37] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: pressuming this goes down it wouldnt be worth it
[2017-01-25 18:15:27] Ugly_Old_Goat : I am not confident at lall, Just bery well margined and waiting for bigger opportuniity iif you get your sellloff
[2017-01-25 18:15:41] Ugly_Old_Goat : So it is a win/win for me
[2017-01-25 18:16:18] Ugly_Old_Goat : The key is to have deep pockets and not riisk too much
[2017-01-25 18:16:36] Ugly_Old_Goat : Money managment is everything
[2017-01-25 18:17:33] Ugly_Old_Goat : Those who do not manage money well mover the marketts and give opporunity to those who do manage money well
[2017-01-25 18:19:16] Ugly_Old_Goat : Really? We could drop 30 dollars and March not go down at all
[2017-01-25 18:19:44] Ugly_Old_Goat : Good bet sellers have sold into a deep deep hole
[2017-01-25 18:19:50] -_- : march is following 0kcoin quarterly
[2017-01-25 18:20:05] Ugly_Old_Goat : Could clean clocks on upside this time
[2017-01-25 18:20:41] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: i think we'll go down a lot more than $30
[2017-01-25 18:21:17] Ugly_Old_Goat : Well we need to go down 30 before we go down more
[2017-01-25 18:22:00] -_- : now china sleeping. no more volume or movement for a while
[2017-01-25 18:22:24] MikeHunt : apparently dump is postponed til friday
[2017-01-25 18:22:42] Ugly_Old_Goat : Just remember to pay me again in one hour, please
[2017-01-25 18:22:43] -_- : quarterly isnt even bouncing any more. no more money to be made
[2017-01-25 18:23:29] Ugly_Old_Goat : My average purchase goes down ewery 8 hours
[2017-01-25 18:30:12] Ugly_Old_Goat : payday in 90 minutes
[2017-01-25 18:30:17] MikeHunt : okc is definately being dumped on
[2017-01-25 18:30:23] Ugly_Old_Goat : Thank you for your support
[2017-01-25 18:30:31] MikeHunt : 150 BTC dump and then a few small buys to prop it up
[2017-01-25 18:34:23] Ugly_Old_Goat : Pay Day in 85 minutes
[2017-01-25 18:35:43] Ugly_Old_Goat : IIt may well be that perp shorts will need to buy out at 10+ to avoid future payments
[2017-01-25 18:36:05] Ugly_Old_Goat : Trading at par now I see
[2017-01-25 18:39:31] Ugly_Old_Goat : Payday in 80 minutes
[2017-01-25 18:40:24] j8 : thanks for the update
[2017-01-25 18:42:55] cryptokeeper : The funding is crazy... last night and this morning people were saying it was like taking 30USD every 8hrs
[2017-01-25 18:42:59] Ugly_Old_Goat : Remember you are paying and Ugly Old Goat for the privilegie of being short btc
[2017-01-25 18:43:21] Ugly_Old_Goat : Ugly Is Beautiful!
[2017-01-25 18:43:21] cryptokeeper : Ugly_Old_Goat: lol
[2017-01-25 18:43:45] cryptokeeper : Ugly_Old_Goat: what sort of percentage are you getting every 8hrs
[2017-01-25 18:44:35] Ugly_Old_Goat : I have been paid $7 per btc in last 24 hours
[2017-01-25 18:44:36] MikeHunt : cryptokeeper: avg is 0.2% iirc
[2017-01-25 18:44:56] cryptokeeper : Ugly_Old_Goat: so I am guessing the exchange takes more than half then
[2017-01-25 18:45:00] Ugly_Old_Goat : Thank your fellas for your support
[2017-01-25 18:45:05] cryptokeeper : some people were getting taxed #30usd for 3/4 btc
[2017-01-25 18:45:41] j8 : no they weren't
[2017-01-25 18:45:48] cryptokeeper : no?
[2017-01-25 18:45:54] j8 : 3/4 btc of margin with a big leveraged position, maybe
[2017-01-25 18:46:11] cryptokeeper : yea most likely
[2017-01-25 18:46:24] Ugly_Old_Goat : Biitmex takes nothing. The shorts currenlly pay the longs the funding rate for privilege fo staying short
[2017-01-25 18:46:43] Ugly_Old_Goat : Again, thank your for your support
[2017-01-25 18:46:44] cryptokeeper : Ugly_Old_Goat: roger that
[2017-01-25 18:46:55] Ugly_Old_Goat : Like shootng fish in a barrel
[2017-01-25 18:47:22] cryptokeeper : lol
[2017-01-25 18:47:38] cryptokeeper : what if people close before funding are they exempt?
[2017-01-25 18:47:53] BitMEX_Greg : cryptokeeper: The funding is not an exchange fee, the funding is 100% swapped between longs and shorts. BitMEX takes no part of the funding
[2017-01-25 18:47:55] Ugly_Old_Goat : Lets see, hat should I buy? March at a 30 dollar discount or perrp at below spot that pays me every 8 hours?
[2017-01-25 18:48:13] BitMEX_Greg : cryptokeeper: If you do not hold a position when the funding is charged / paid, then you do not pay or receive the funding
[2017-01-25 18:48:43] Ugly_Old_Goat : Looks like some here don't get it BitMex_Greg, thanks for cluing them in
[2017-01-25 18:48:53] BitMEX_Greg : No problem
[2017-01-25 18:48:58] -_- : Ugly_Old_Goat: people who long march are expecting the premium to be like $40 in the end. and if you long swap and price goes up then longers pay the fee every 8 hours
[2017-01-25 18:49:05] Ugly_Old_Goat : I cost me on the way up but I learned qucikly'
[2017-01-25 18:49:22] -_- : but if you expect price to continue going down the longing swap to get paid is the right idea if you dont want to short
[2017-01-25 18:49:46] Ugly_Old_Goat : Correct the the fee noirmallly goes to the longs,
[2017-01-25 18:50:13] Ugly_Old_Goat : This is an inverted market and very unusual
[2017-01-25 18:50:52] Ugly_Old_Goat : The wales are buying March and selling elsewhere
[2017-01-25 18:51:05] -_- : still i rather short march and ride a bigger discount if this dumps. then long around the bottom and ride it to a premium
[2017-01-25 18:51:25] -_- : i rather not pay fees for being on the correct side
[2017-01-25 18:51:32] Ugly_Old_Goat : Between now and March 30 thie discount will disappear
[2017-01-25 18:56:04] Ugly_Old_Goat : It is very doubtlful being short in correct in the long run
[2017-01-25 18:56:49] Farzad : Quick question boyz, I bought some XBTH17 on 876.58 and sold them on 877.00. still made a loss ! what is the math behind it ?
[2017-01-25 18:56:51] Ugly_Old_Goat : I you get your sell off I am a huge buyer plus you will be covering your shorts
[2017-01-25 18:57:12] BitMEX_Greg : Farzad: Are you factoring in trade fees?
[2017-01-25 18:57:20] Ugly_Old_Goat : If you made the market you came our ahead
[2017-01-25 18:57:49] Ugly_Old_Goat : If you took the market you lost a bit Farzad
[2017-01-25 18:58:12] Farzad : BitMEX_Greg: no, you mean fees can outweigh a 42 cents profit ?
[2017-01-25 18:58:34] Farzad : Ugly_Old_Goat: no It was limit order. I made 42 cents on that trade
[2017-01-25 18:59:05] Ugly_Old_Goat : Ok your got ithen
[2017-01-25 18:59:35] rapidgains : Farzad: yes
[2017-01-25 19:00:01] rapidgains : fees will set you back a dollar
[2017-01-25 19:00:26] Ugly_Old_Goat : PayDay in 59 minutes
[2017-01-25 19:01:12] Ugly_Old_Goat : All shorts please have adequate funds in your account to pay me. My family needs to eat
[2017-01-25 19:01:26] Ugly_Old_Goat : I hope the market goes down for you
[2017-01-25 19:02:29] j8 : problem is you can't lock in a return in USD when everything's negative. you can sell spot and buy the futures discount or get swap funding, but you still lose if the price crashes
[2017-01-25 19:05:07] Ugly_Old_Goat : J8 you are correct, but that is because you are thinking in dollars. I only think in btc, the game is to increase btc, not $$$
[2017-01-25 19:05:32] j8 : ok, have fun then!
[2017-01-25 19:06:11] BitMEX_Greg : Farzad: You can check in your Trade History (https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory) the fees you paid on your entry and exit
[2017-01-25 19:06:26] sleger : the price of bread is more constant in usd terms than in btc terms though... @Ugly_Old_Goat Unless you eat different ?
[2017-01-25 19:06:44] j8 : he doesn't think in bread
[2017-01-25 19:08:26] Ugly_Old_Goat : I think only btc, went from 0 to 1000+ while dollar keeps declining from 30 dollars per ounce of gold to 1000+ per ounce of gold, same applies to bread
[2017-01-25 19:09:05] cryptokeeper : funding gets taken from total balance right not available
[2017-01-25 19:09:09] cryptokeeper : that is correct is it not?
[2017-01-25 19:09:21] BitMEX_Greg : cryptokeeper: From Realised PNL
[2017-01-25 19:09:23] Ugly_Old_Goat : PayDay in 50 minutes
[2017-01-25 19:09:57] cryptokeeper : BitMEX_Greg: but it comes off the top of your total account right? not the available
[2017-01-25 19:10:10] Ugly_Old_Goat : Please stay short and don't forget to pay this Ugly Old Goat
[2017-01-25 19:10:13] cryptokeeper : what if people are max leveraged and have none available?
[2017-01-25 19:10:17] rapidgains : % of your trade value
[2017-01-25 19:10:27] j8 : cryptokeeper: maintenance margin includes the next funding
[2017-01-25 19:10:38] cryptokeeper : roger that
[2017-01-25 19:10:40] arbitrage101 : easier to rob the bread store than trade here
[2017-01-25 19:11:35] Ugly_Old_Goat : cryhptokeeper those kind of traders eventually lose everything and help feed all my little goats
[2017-01-25 19:12:08] Farzad : BitMEX_Greg: Yes I can see the fees here. I paid 800 satoshi for opening and received 200 satoshi for closing. seems I made 400 satoshi profit which makes it -200 satoshi total loss.
[2017-01-25 19:12:47] Farzad : it was a test trade by the way
[2017-01-25 19:12:53] Farzad : I am testing some strategies
[2017-01-25 19:13:04] sleger : failed
[2017-01-25 19:13:04] Farzad : dont like to test on testnet
[2017-01-25 19:13:04] BitMEX_Greg : Farzad: Sure no problem, just let us know if you have any other questions or where to find information on the site
[2017-01-25 19:13:30] Ugly_Old_Goat : PayDay in 45 minutes
[2017-01-25 19:13:30] Farzad : BitMEX_Greg: Thanks bro :)
[2017-01-25 19:13:55] cryptokeeper : Ugly_Old_Goat: indeed.
[2017-01-25 19:13:59] arbitrage101 : ya bro, pay day
[2017-01-25 19:14:23] cryptokeeper : ya we get the funding rate is going to hit.. enough about it already lol
[2017-01-25 19:14:23] j8 : it's not pay day if you get paid three times a day
[2017-01-25 19:14:35] cryptokeeper : we dont need 15 minute time checks
[2017-01-25 19:14:37] arbitrage101 : pay hour
[2017-01-25 19:14:54] arbitrage101 : let me check my funding history
[2017-01-25 19:15:13] Ugly_Old_Goat : Wow! PayDay three times a day! I love it!
[2017-01-25 19:15:14] Farzad : all shorts close your positions in 43 minutes, so they dont get paid :p
[2017-01-25 19:15:47] Ugly_Old_Goat : Farzad they can't do that unless we got to a $10 premium
[2017-01-25 19:15:54] arbitrage101 : Got around 64 usd in the last 3 funding period
[2017-01-25 19:15:59] VenCap : Farzad: mine willl be closed not paying any more tax aka bash on head with baseball bat
[2017-01-25 19:16:03] arbitrage101 : enough for food, and rent
[2017-01-25 19:16:17] arbitrage101 : but not honey
[2017-01-25 19:16:18] Ugly_Old_Goat : At which time I will be a seller and buy March if it is at a good discount
[2017-01-25 19:16:40] VenCap : i amsurprsied no one dumps to kill the people wo are long
[2017-01-25 19:16:53] arbitrage101 : VenCap: chinese new year effect
[2017-01-25 19:17:00] rapidgains : trade quarterly if you don't like funding
[2017-01-25 19:17:00] arbitrage101 : dont ruin the mood
[2017-01-25 19:17:03] cryptokeeper : Farzad: lol
[2017-01-25 19:17:37] Ugly_Old_Goat : I am happy just to sit on this ugly olld ass and get paid, but whatever your shorts want to do is fin e with me
[2017-01-25 19:18:48] Ugly_Old_Goat : 40 minutes to payday
[2017-01-25 19:19:32] arbitrage101 : we want bread!
[2017-01-25 19:19:35] arbitrage101 : we want bread
[2017-01-25 19:21:44] cryptokeeper : I want pizza not bread
[2017-01-25 19:22:54] rapidgains : so, is nogano rekt for good
[2017-01-25 19:23:18] arbitrage101 : what happen to him
[2017-01-25 19:23:27] -_- : who has that big whale wall on quarterly
[2017-01-25 19:23:32] arbitrage101 : usually preach his religion here
[2017-01-25 19:23:37] rapidgains : lol
[2017-01-25 19:24:42] cryptokeeper : -_-: where
[2017-01-25 19:25:02] -_- : xbth17
[2017-01-25 19:25:09] -_- : down to 59942 though
[2017-01-25 19:25:58] cryptokeeper : do profits/losses realize immediately like the perp contracts? Or you have to wait until contract date is settled?
[2017-01-25 19:26:09] cryptokeeper : obviously losses would
[2017-01-25 19:26:59] Battlebots : Good morning my sweet friends.
[2017-01-25 19:28:47] Battlebots : For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
[2017-01-25 19:30:10] -_- : cryptokeeper: all realize as soon as you close
[2017-01-25 19:30:23] cryptokeeper : -_-: thanks
[2017-01-25 19:34:04] Farzad : anyone knows how can I get "Unrealised PNL" of all open positions from API ?
[2017-01-25 19:34:10] Ugly_Old_Goat : 35 minutes to payday
[2017-01-25 19:34:24] Ugly_Old_Goat : 25 minutes to PayDay!
[2017-01-25 19:35:13] airitout : can someone mute/ban ugly_old_goat?
[2017-01-25 19:38:21] Ugly_Old_Goat : Promise to pay me and I will stfu
[2017-01-25 19:40:51] -_- : ignore feature should be coming in the next big update i hope
[2017-01-25 19:42:08] cryptokeeper : yeah its getting annoying and old
[2017-01-25 19:42:14] cryptokeeper : just like ugly old goat
[2017-01-25 19:42:25] cryptokeeper : hey you gonna give us check points once it resets too?
[2017-01-25 19:46:12] Ugly_Old_Goat : Hey fellas, they call this the troll box. It is for trollls
[2017-01-25 19:46:52] Ugly_Old_Goat : If you don't like trolls go to redit
[2017-01-25 19:47:57] rapidgains : don't have to be an arse to be a troll
[2017-01-25 19:49:22] Ugly_Old_Goat : Look, I am Ugly and Old and a Goat on top of that.
[2017-01-25 19:50:19] sleger : oh wow
[2017-01-25 19:50:35] sleger : funding has been canceled until the end of the month !! you guys saw that in the announcement in the blog ?
[2017-01-25 19:50:55] BitMEX_Sam : :gun:
[2017-01-25 19:51:18] Ugly_Old_Goat : And as for my arse I have chronic diarrhea and in need of a Depends change
[2017-01-25 19:53:26] rapidgains : okcoin orderbooks are sad
[2017-01-25 19:54:14] arbitrage101 : sleger: my kids need to eat !
[2017-01-25 19:54:27] arbitrage101 : think of the children
[2017-01-25 19:54:33] sleger : arbitrage101: have you thought about getting a job instead ?
[2017-01-25 19:54:40] arbitrage101 : nope
[2017-01-25 19:54:45] sleger : or not procreating if you cant do that
[2017-01-25 19:54:46] rapidgains : dump them
[2017-01-25 19:54:59] rapidgains : send funds to bitmex
[2017-01-25 19:55:16] Ugly_Old_Goat : But on the plus side I have 3 beautiful ladies who change my Depends
[2017-01-25 19:55:38] Ugly_Old_Goat : And its time for a change!
[2017-01-25 19:55:53] BitMEX_Sam : Try being funnier if you're going to troll
[2017-01-25 19:56:16] cryptokeeper : lol
[2017-01-25 19:56:33] Rado : sleger: remember that someone need to lose so we can make money
[2017-01-25 19:56:57] Ugly_Old_Goat : Wel I only wear special designer Depends with yellow btc happy faces inside and out
[2017-01-25 19:57:29] sleger : what sam said, you use too much % of the trollbox for your degree of (non) funniness
[2017-01-25 19:57:31] Ugly_Old_Goat : My three ladies love the happy faces
[2017-01-25 19:58:20] Ugly_Old_Goat : And on rare ocassions theire is a surprise inside
[2017-01-25 19:58:24] cryptokeeper : ABANDON SHIP
[2017-01-25 19:58:36] cryptokeeper : shes about to blow yarrrr
[2017-01-25 19:58:36] rapidgains : this chat is cringe
[2017-01-25 19:58:45] Ugly_Old_Goat : But that is increasingly rare, cause I am really really old
[2017-01-25 19:58:45] cryptokeeper : rapidgains: totally
[2017-01-25 19:59:30] Ugly_Old_Goat : pay day in 30 seconds
[2017-01-25 19:59:39] cryptokeeper : have fun with your pocket change
[2017-01-25 19:59:42] Battlebots : Ugly Old Goat how is your relationship with Jesus Christ?
[2017-01-25 20:00:13] Battlebots : It is not what goes in the mouth that defiles.. but what comes out.
[2017-01-25 20:00:30] Battlebots : There are things that come out of your mouth that I wouldn't even touch.
[2017-01-25 20:02:53] Baseballman : Anyone follow a guy named Clif High at halfpasthuman.com? Some interesting thoughts on BTC...
[2017-01-25 20:03:17] BTCDJS : :bitmex: @Battlebots Please delete your account immediately
[2017-01-25 20:03:38] Ugly_Old_Goat : Battlebots: You are indeed blessed that you do not poop your pants, I am sure yours does not stink either. This UglyOldGoat is a poor misirable sinnedr. One of His from whom He died and paid the price.
[2017-01-25 20:03:48] BTCDJS : Damn! I knew that wouldnt last long
[2017-01-25 20:04:36] BitMEX_Greg : Battlebots: Placing a chat ban. @Ugly_Old_Goat You are being warned also
[2017-01-25 20:04:42] BTCDJS : <bitmex>
[2017-01-25 20:04:54] BTCDJS : ?bitmex?
[2017-01-25 20:05:03] BTCDJS : {bitmex}
[2017-01-25 20:05:16] BTCDJS : #bitmex#
[2017-01-25 20:05:23] -_- : doesnt work any more BTCDJS
[2017-01-25 20:05:33] BTCDJS : Fun spoiled
[2017-01-25 20:05:37] -_- : they caught on to us
[2017-01-25 20:05:49] Ugly_Old_Goat : So sad, too bad
[2017-01-25 20:07:12] MikeHunt : as this goes up, ppl dump
[2017-01-25 20:07:19] MikeHunt : there is no incentive to pump
[2017-01-25 20:07:37] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: trade something else
[2017-01-25 20:08:02] BTCDJS : My AMZN long is doing well on 1Broker
[2017-01-25 20:08:10] BTCDJS : So is GBPUSD
[2017-01-25 20:08:21] Ugly_Old_Goat : Thank you for your support, Next payday in 8 hours
[2017-01-25 20:08:57] BTCDJS : Waiting for a dip in TSLA then Im entering a long
[2017-01-25 20:09:43] BTCDJS : Ugly_Old_Goat: You sir are a DRIP
[2017-01-25 20:12:15] Ugly_Old_Goat : BTCDJS: Yes, I am a sad case of humanity if I was human, but alas I am just an Ugly Olld Goat
[2017-01-25 20:12:55] Ugly_Old_Goat : With chronic diarrhea at that
[2017-01-25 20:21:18] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: careful with GBP, might dump again
[2017-01-25 20:22:12] Papou : does bitmex tell you like a total realized PNL?
[2017-01-25 20:23:36] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: thnx for tip, 1broker looks interesting
[2017-01-25 20:23:44] MikeHunt : Papou: including fees?
[2017-01-25 20:24:23] BTCDJS : noganoo: youve been warned. so has the goat. Do whatever floats your boat
[2017-01-25 20:25:32] BTCDJS : lol
[2017-01-25 20:25:43] BTCDJS : you are crackers mate
[2017-01-25 20:26:54] j8 : aand he's gone
[2017-01-25 20:27:20] BitMEX_Greg : Word of warning everyone: Anyone who is consistently off topic gets a chat ban
[2017-01-25 20:27:26] BTCDJS : I AM LOVING THIS NEW BITMEX TROLLBOX
[2017-01-25 20:27:38] BTCDJS : Thanks Greg
[2017-01-25 20:27:47] BTCDJS : ?
[2017-01-25 20:28:30] BitMEX_Greg : You're welcome. We don't want religious discussions here, this is a Bitcoin derivatives platform. If you want to shoot the shit about anything else, go hassle reddit
[2017-01-25 20:28:44] BTCDJS : Ugly_Old_Goat: Youre next
[2017-01-25 20:29:26] BitMEX_Greg : He has been warned already
[2017-01-25 20:33:54] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: gbp on weekly looks like rising wedge
[2017-01-25 20:34:12] Ugly_Old_Goat : Ok fellas good stuff here about bitcoin and other alts https://twitter.com/ToneVays but I really want to educate as well as have fun, both are possible
[2017-01-25 20:34:12] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: Never mind all that
[2017-01-25 20:35:59] Ugly_Old_Goat : I can pull readers but always the risk offense, so I am out of here. Good luck and trading to you all
[2017-01-25 20:36:42] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: 260% profit so far. Have stops set. Using Moving averages. I dont really take triangles too seriously
[2017-01-25 20:36:51] BTCDJS : they are just lines
[2017-01-25 20:37:28] BitMEX_Greg : Ugly_Old_Goat: We do not mind some off-topic conversations, but if a number of traders are starting to complain and you are consistently off-topic then that is when chat bans are introduced. Noganoo has pushed the limits with us several times already.
[2017-01-25 20:37:34] BTCDJS : Ugly_Old_Goat: Not offended. Just be cool. Come back soon
[2017-01-25 20:40:00] Ugly_Old_Goat : Jokes Jokes Jokes Jokes
[2017-01-25 20:41:02] BTCDJS : I said be cool. Not lame
[2017-01-25 20:43:23] airitout : Ugly_Old_Goat: go to btc-e, you'll find your kind over there.
[2017-01-25 20:48:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 100 @ 0.001439
[2017-01-25 20:48:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 1500 @ 0.001439
[2017-01-25 20:49:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 300 @ 0.001434
[2017-01-25 20:49:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 14894 @ 0.001429
[2017-01-25 20:49:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 32 @ 0.001431
[2017-01-25 20:50:09] Noobz : woah
[2017-01-25 20:55:52] -_- : i knew etc was gonna dump
[2017-01-25 20:56:12] cryptokeeper : it really didnt dump that much
[2017-01-25 20:56:47] -_- : that is true
[2017-01-25 21:02:21] MikeHunt : wen btc dies everything else does too
[2017-01-25 21:02:32] MikeHunt : there is no uncorrelated hedge to btc in altcoins imo
[2017-01-25 21:02:39] MikeHunt : at least in the long term
[2017-01-25 21:06:14] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: Youre over thinking. Bitcoin isnt going to die
[2017-01-25 21:06:35] MikeHunt : BTCDJS: wasnt being serious
[2017-01-25 21:06:38] MikeHunt : dies not die
[2017-01-25 21:06:38] MikeHunt : lol
[2017-01-25 21:06:44] MikeHunt : dies = crash
[2017-01-25 21:06:49] MikeHunt : = bear market
[2017-01-25 21:06:50] MikeHunt : etc.
[2017-01-25 21:07:49] -_- : gotta wait for the selloff to begin before declaring a bearmarket
[2017-01-25 21:07:50] BTCDJS : MikeHunt: Just trade forex and stocks etc with BTC and make more BTC while BTC "dies"
[2017-01-25 21:07:59] -_- : even then it's gotta break 5000 cny and stay under
[2017-01-25 21:08:17] BTCDJS : Yeah we arent even close to a bear market
[2017-01-25 21:08:43] BTCDJS : Just a retrace. And the market finding its feet without chinas manipulation
[2017-01-25 21:09:14] -_- : yeah
[2017-01-25 21:09:25] -_- : i think china will eventually act like bitstamp or bitfinex
[2017-01-25 21:09:54] -_- : few biggish orders both sides of the price filled with many smaller orders to fill the gaps
[2017-01-25 21:22:16] bingbongfly : wut what happened to ETC?
[2017-01-25 21:22:28] bingbongfly : should have expected this drop
[2017-01-25 21:22:33] bingbongfly : huge pump, then slow drop
[2017-01-25 21:22:37] bingbongfly : rinse repeat
[2017-01-25 21:22:41] bingbongfly : ridiq, market
[2017-01-25 21:23:11] bingbongfly : only thing that will save my long on ETC would be BTC dropping by a few hundred dollars
[2017-01-25 21:40:02] -_- : haha
[2017-01-25 21:40:07] -_- : longing the top like a true pro
[2017-01-25 21:41:11] -_- : if 6250 cny breaks then we will see if the buyers can eat up to 6300 cny. funnn
[2017-01-25 22:18:16] Tetsuo : Wow, no1 futures holder on okcoin right now has 380000 contracts, short. Would be a nice spike if he gets margin called....
[2017-01-25 22:19:19] Tetsuo : for the noobs: 1 contract= 100$ on okc
[2017-01-25 22:20:43] Tetsuo : either he is an insider and knows about terrible things that are going to happen or is he is just a bit crazy
[2017-01-25 22:21:16] lockhedge : or a miner hedging
[2017-01-25 22:21:35] bingbongfly : Tetsuo: he is not short mate, show me proof
[2017-01-25 22:21:42] Noobz : or a saudi prince spending some pocket change
[2017-01-25 22:21:45] -_- : cant short on okcoin.cn so they short on okcoin.com instead
[2017-01-25 22:22:03] -_- : proof?
[2017-01-25 22:22:16] Tetsuo : bingbongfly: why do you think there is such a huge negative premium???... https://www.okcoin.com/future/futureTop.do?type=0&symbol=0
[2017-01-25 22:22:17] bingbongfly : no1 future holder on woodchippr is almost 40k BTC long, close to bottom too. that spike if he would get margincalled
[2017-01-25 22:22:19] -_- : quarterly is $43 below index
[2017-01-25 22:22:27] bingbongfly : Tetsuo: he is long : https://www.the woodchipper.com/future/futureTop.do?type=0&symbol=0
[2017-01-25 22:22:29] -_- : try doing that while being 380k contracts long
[2017-01-25 22:22:31] bingbongfly : probably long + short
[2017-01-25 22:22:36] bingbongfly : mostly long imo
[2017-01-25 22:22:54] bingbongfly : but he would never get margincalled I believe
[2017-01-25 22:22:58] Tetsuo : massive negative premium leads to the conclusion that he is short
[2017-01-25 22:22:58] bingbongfly : not if he's rich enough
[2017-01-25 22:23:04] bingbongfly : Tetsuo: no it doesnt lol
[2017-01-25 22:23:08] -_- : then who the f is shorting $40 below index so this whale can long and come settlement time profit
[2017-01-25 22:23:19] bingbongfly : Tetsuo: it just means sentiment is bearish and ppl selling, doesnt mean he is short
[2017-01-25 22:25:48] Tetsuo : Top trader sentinemnt actually index says that 57% are long,, which means that one big whale is creating the massive premium
[2017-01-25 22:31:46] Papou : because this market is about to fail
[2017-01-25 22:32:12] Papou : wait until shorts outgrow longs
[2017-01-25 22:32:14] Papou : then it falls
[2017-01-25 22:32:22] Papou : its propped up by majority long
[2017-01-25 22:32:28] bingbongfly : Tetsuo: it's 50/50 lol
[2017-01-25 22:32:30] MikeHunt : i think friday will trigger it
[2017-01-25 22:32:38] bingbongfly : Papou: yea, agree
[2017-01-25 22:32:39] Papou : https://www.okcoin.com/future/futureTop.do?type=1&symbol=0
[2017-01-25 22:32:39] MikeHunt : okc 7 day dump
[2017-01-25 23:13:50] brojo : what index does xbt follow here
[2017-01-25 23:19:42] BitMEX_Sam : brojo: http://bitmex.kaiko.com/
[2017-01-25 23:19:58] BitMEX_Sam : The index is OKC Intl & Bitstamp
[2017-01-25 23:31:30] -_- : discount only $22 now. people are taking advantage and longing
[2017-01-25 23:31:47] -_- : open contracts up 200,000 on xbth17
[2017-01-25 23:39:36] Ugly_Old_Goat : Good Afternoon Ladies & Gentlemen: Time for a new joke
[2017-01-25 23:40:44] BitMEX_Sam : @Ugly_Old_Goat: It's a little tired, find something new
[2017-01-25 23:43:02] Ugly_Old_Goat : Ok, then lets start with a good read and some fundamental research https://twitter.com/tuurdemeester
[2017-01-25 23:43:54] Ugly_Old_Goat : I @BitMEX_Sam I wish I was a young handsome buck like you
[2017-01-25 23:44:22] BitMEX_Sam : It's hard to be me, but someone has to be
[2017-01-25 23:45:15] Ugly_Old_Goat : Lucky again, I 'm never hard anymore
[2017-01-25 23:45:47] BitMEX_Sam : Sounds like you're having a rough night
[2017-01-25 23:46:33] Ugly_Old_Goat : Actually no, My three beautiful ladies are here paid in full by the perp shorts
[2017-01-25 23:48:04] Ugly_Old_Goat : Looks like March lost $10 against perp
[2017-01-25 23:48:06] Ugly_Old_Goat : Long over due
[2017-01-25 23:48:42] Ugly_Old_Goat : Should got to 20-30 premium
[2017-01-25 23:50:21] Ugly_Old_Goat : Perp should take our 930 and to to 950 before we get much selling