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[2017-01-25 15:05:07] -_- : :BITMEX:
[2017-01-25 15:05:13] -_- : :BITMEX: TEST
[2017-01-25 15:05:29] enki0182 : wow - you def a yank... sorry - but live in Aus - and their perception to pieces are a bit different.... I will decline
[2017-01-25 15:05:49] FreeBitcoins : VenCap: go to page 5 of collectibles under user "moonrock"
[2017-01-25 15:05:49] enki0182 : ps - no offense intended i was born in salt lake utah
[2017-01-25 15:05:58] enki0182 : live in Aus
[2017-01-25 15:06:00] enki0182 : tralis
[2017-01-25 15:06:08] FreeBitcoins : enki0182: im in AUS too lol, west coast
[2017-01-25 15:06:08] enki0182 : tralia*
[2017-01-25 15:06:25] enki0182 : east coast brisbane for me @FreeBitcoins
[2017-01-25 15:06:56] VenCap : found it
[2017-01-25 15:07:01] FreeBitcoins : VenCap: take a look at that limited addition bitcoin knife I have. Its a an absolute beast...
[2017-01-25 15:07:10] enki0182 : i got my gun license for 0 years now - but gettin shit into the country be like too much of a hassle bro
[2017-01-25 15:07:17] enki0182 : 10*
[2017-01-25 15:07:39] enki0182 : send link dude @FreeBitcoins
[2017-01-25 15:07:44] enki0182 : im keen on knoves
[2017-01-25 15:07:49] FreeBitcoins : enki0182: if I can bring coke into the country you can bring anything haha
[2017-01-25 15:08:06] enki0182 : well i dont wanna know about it...lol...
[2017-01-25 15:08:17] FreeBitcoins : enki0182: its domestic too so no dramas, I got them from the US
[2017-01-25 15:08:49] VenCap : nice pieces, you are in Oz though. postage too expensive
[2017-01-25 15:08:53] enki0182 : the shit i want doesnt come in white powder - but small cardboard cubes or sml dropper bottles ;)
[2017-01-25 15:09:41] FreeBitcoins : enki0182: lol, check out this knife. Its crazy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1709607.0
[2017-01-25 15:11:00] FreeBitcoins : VenCap: if you really wanted it, I would pay postage you tight ass
[2017-01-25 15:11:12] VenCap : lols
[2017-01-25 15:11:17] VenCap : Thank you for the offer.
[2017-01-25 15:11:23] enki0182 : FreeBitcoins: really fkn cool as...
[2017-01-25 15:11:26] VenCap : i will keep it in mind
[2017-01-25 15:11:39] enki0182 : but you should hold it another year....
[2017-01-25 15:12:09] enki0182 : that shit be dope as - hodl it
[2017-01-25 15:12:37] enki0182 : i would - but i know knives and I wouldnt make an offer above $40AUD...
[2017-01-25 15:12:40] FreeBitcoins : enki0182: I was never going to sell any of my bitcoin collectibles but decided to reduce some to throw $ at something else
[2017-01-25 15:12:41] enki0182 : in btc
[2017-01-25 15:13:15] FreeBitcoins : enki0182: there are 20 of those from 2014 and the last one sold for about .3 BTC
[2017-01-25 15:13:21] enki0182 : tru dat... me 2 everything - even my boat (which sold last week) is going...rofl.. its the btc fever
[2017-01-25 15:13:34] enki0182 : its called "believing"....
[2017-01-25 15:14:10] FreeBitcoins : Those knives will sell at the ask or above $1k USD when I do move them
[2017-01-25 15:14:53] enki0182 : im bullish as - but out of market for now... right now could be the future AWESOME BUY PRICE... but im hodling just incase any whales pull the usual...lol
[2017-01-25 15:15:28] enki0182 : yes bro - thats why i told ya to hold
[2017-01-25 15:15:35] FreeBitcoins : enki0182: im tempted to enter here but im waiting for a surprise before I do
[2017-01-25 15:17:18] Papou : why is there abyssmal volume in the future contracts?
[2017-01-25 15:17:47] VenCap : its a slow day for sure
[2017-01-25 15:18:04] enki0182 : FreeBitcoins: dude - you know i like to lose :P... so that why i have NO POSITION... right now - just observing,....with such low volume it would take just one crazy xhinaman to send the markt $100 lower and liq=eatting shizz.... so my adviuce is take some time to enjoy youself (probably havent done for a while)... and spend some time with your kids/wife or self for enjoyment... because the next 3 months going to take your life up dude
[2017-01-25 15:19:11] enki0182 : Papou: apart from your terrible predictions... the low volume is a natural sign of lack of interest in bitcoin, which should ascend as soon as china start announcing that they building fibre optic internet along their new silk road.....rofl
[2017-01-25 15:19:35] Papou : lol right terrible predictions
[2017-01-25 15:19:41] Papou : future from 930 to 865
[2017-01-25 15:19:48] FreeBitcoins : enki0182: I took the day off to do just that and invited the family around for a massive feast. Now Im back in predator mode stalking this major move
[2017-01-25 15:19:54] Papou : xbtusd 920 to 888
[2017-01-25 15:20:04] Papou : such bad bad predicitons....sorry u got mega wrekt long pleb
[2017-01-25 15:20:08] VenCap : major move seems.... on hold no ?
[2017-01-25 15:20:25] Papou : whats ur btc address, ill send u a few dollars for ramen noodles, so u can have some diner
[2017-01-25 15:20:37] FreeBitcoins : enki0182: spent last 3 years trading crypto nearly ready to finish up
[2017-01-25 15:20:52] Papou : freebitcoin
[2017-01-25 15:20:57] Papou : whats ur short entry?
[2017-01-25 15:21:09] FreeBitcoins : Papou: your going to get me dinner>
[2017-01-25 15:21:24] Papou : no
[2017-01-25 15:21:28] Papou : that other scrub
[2017-01-25 15:21:45] FreeBitcoins : Papou: I can be what you want me to be if its your shout
[2017-01-25 15:21:56] Papou : i feel bad he got rekt so wanted to get him a few cup of noodle soups
[2017-01-25 15:22:03] Papou : so he can stay warm and have a meal
[2017-01-25 15:22:23] FreeBitcoins : Papou: bitmex should open up a soup kitchen
[2017-01-25 15:22:33] Papou : omg
[2017-01-25 15:22:39] Papou : that is a fantastic idea
[2017-01-25 15:23:01] Papou : i am starting a gofundme for winter coats for those who got mega rekt
[2017-01-25 15:23:03] enki0182 : FreeBitcoins: dont quit bro - just limit your levg... and exposure - its like a game - takes practice and lessons learnt (sometimes expensive lessons... lol )... but persist because even if you still have 1btc on 2025 - its as good as $1m today.
[2017-01-25 15:23:04] FreeBitcoins : Papou: yeah, right out the dodgy HK headquarters
[2017-01-25 15:23:12] Papou : u get a winter coat and a 24 pack of ramen noodles
[2017-01-25 15:23:30] FreeBitcoins : Papou: coat can be made from all the slain bears fur lmao
[2017-01-25 15:23:56] enki0182 : omg lol... papau was the one name from the trollbox that I genuinely thought was trolling hard because he is always making bad calls...lol...
[2017-01-25 15:24:03] enki0182 : should get an award
[2017-01-25 15:24:35] FreeBitcoins : enki0182: lol im not rekt just moving back to business now
[2017-01-25 15:24:44] Papou : right
[2017-01-25 15:24:53] Papou : do you guys even know whats happening?
[2017-01-25 15:24:57] enki0182 : FreeBitcoins: good luck and good night FreeB... I have 0 positions.. sleeping and holding off until 28th-29th...
[2017-01-25 15:25:02] Papou : bearwhale from 2012 is coming back for revenge
[2017-01-25 15:25:18] Papou : enki u can still short here and be good....
[2017-01-25 15:25:23] Papou : much profit
[2017-01-25 15:25:28] enki0182 : Papou: you are so wrong... I sill tell you what happened if you want...?
[2017-01-25 15:25:30] FreeBitcoins : enki0182: good call mate. smartest thing to do right now. If you have alot of coins could be worth hedging
[2017-01-25 15:25:49] bitmors : Whats ur perspective enki
[2017-01-25 15:25:50] enki0182 : i got enough coins.
[2017-01-25 15:26:13] enki0182 : on bitmex anyway ;).... this is my 10% (dilligaf fund)... lol
[2017-01-25 15:26:20] VenCap : i dont want to eat noodles ... but i am sort.. maybe i am safe?
[2017-01-25 15:26:36] FreeBitcoins : this move thats building is going to destroy many traders. Big whip and flip either way
[2017-01-25 15:26:38] VenCap : Whats this green % thing i see here? under "your position" on te left hand side.
[2017-01-25 15:26:54] enki0182 : your short must be above 888 exit... @FreeBitcoins
[2017-01-25 15:27:05] VenCap : it tells me how many contracts... then % in green, right now it looks quite high.. 80.63% is this good?
[2017-01-25 15:27:12] enki0182 : consider 888 as the "bottom"... and go from there.
[2017-01-25 15:27:15] enki0182 : goodnight all
[2017-01-25 15:27:52] Papou : LOL right
[2017-01-25 15:28:05] Papou : these bull traps are hilarious
[2017-01-25 15:29:16] VenCap : wally i have a green % it keeps going up, it looks really high? is it ok?
[2017-01-25 15:29:22] VenCap : What happens when it gets too 100% ?
[2017-01-25 15:29:28] VenCap : does it reset to 0% ?
[2017-01-25 15:30:09] VenCap : i have never seen it before, but i was going Long before. No i am going short and it keeps risi
[2017-01-25 15:30:29] VenCap : same with Unrealised PNL.. it just keeps gonig up? Isit ok? its not broken or anything?
[2017-01-25 15:30:34] VenCap : Should i refresh my page?
[2017-01-25 15:31:33] bitmors : Haha... Good job vencap
[2017-01-25 15:31:50] keesverhoeven : Alt + F4 :)
[2017-01-25 15:32:23] VenCap : What happens when % mark goes 100% green? do i win prize?
[2017-01-25 15:32:42] VenCap : A free Bitmex Tshirt?
[2017-01-25 15:32:48] YOLOCOIN : is this really a bull trap?
[2017-01-25 15:32:52] VenCap : "I shorted on Bitmex and Survived"?
[2017-01-25 15:33:33] VenCap : Bullish is good, so why is it called a bull trap if its gonig down?
[2017-01-25 15:33:46] VenCap : a Bull Trap would mean fake people into believing its going down, then pump right?
[2017-01-25 15:34:21] bitmors : Nope... Bull trap means a slight upward movement fooling bulls into buying... Then a drop
[2017-01-25 15:34:46] keesverhoeven : Yeah, let's do a drop again :)
[2017-01-25 15:35:14] YOLOCOIN : can also be a fake continuation patter making people believe that it will go up, but actually dumps
[2017-01-25 15:35:25] VenCap : bull trap often causes some investors to buy the stock, but because the stock continues to decline after the initial signal, those who bought in are "trapped" in a bad investment. Read more: Bull Trap Definition | Investopedia http://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bulltrap.asp#ixzz4WmvJthsP Follow us: Investopedia on Facebook
[2017-01-25 15:35:37] VenCap : Found That :O)
[2017-01-25 15:36:26] VenCap : bitmors: thanks bitmor
[2017-01-25 15:41:02] VenCap : who said 888 is the floor?
[2017-01-25 15:41:30] VenCap : it about to be tested
[2017-01-25 15:42:12] cryptokeeper : so is 6150 in china
[2017-01-25 15:43:51] VenCap : really needs to go below 6k to get the party started
[2017-01-25 15:44:00] VenCap : China tryin to hold price so New year wont be a downer :P
[2017-01-25 15:55:33] VenCap : how do i refresh chat box?
[2017-01-25 15:57:15] FreeBitcoins : question: Why are some orders black in the orderbook?
[2017-01-25 15:57:54] VenCap : black?
[2017-01-25 15:58:02] aethlios : 30 usd discount
[2017-01-25 15:58:21] VenCap : 888is holding.. wowo
[2017-01-25 15:59:02] aethlios : VenCap: you still keep swap? use quarterly next time.
[2017-01-25 16:04:17] VenCap : i have no idea what swap or 1/4ly is
[2017-01-25 16:04:28] VenCap : all i know the tab says.
[2017-01-25 16:04:29] VenCap : Bitcoin
[2017-01-25 16:04:31] VenCap : XBT
[2017-01-25 16:05:55] VenCap : where is quaterly ?
[2017-01-25 16:06:07] VenCap : i only see tabs, 11 of them here
[2017-01-25 16:06:09] BitMEX_Wally : Under the XBT tab
[2017-01-25 16:06:28] VenCap : perpetual swap (x100) ?
[2017-01-25 16:06:39] BitMEX_Wally : Perpetual Swap (100x) is XBTUSD Mar 31 (100x) is XBTH17
[2017-01-25 16:07:04] VenCap : compeltely lost
[2017-01-25 16:07:14] Shaman : each tab has sub-tabs
[2017-01-25 16:07:19] VenCap : why does it says Mar 31 ?
[2017-01-25 16:07:27] VenCap : ok, i see it now.
[2017-01-25 16:07:28] BitMEX_Wally : Because it expires on 31 March
[2017-01-25 16:07:35] VenCap : what does expire mean?
[2017-01-25 16:07:41] VenCap : i buy and have to wait till end of MArch?
[2017-01-25 16:07:46] BitMEX_Wally : No
[2017-01-25 16:07:55] BitMEX_Wally : It means your position will be closed on 31 March if you still have one
[2017-01-25 16:08:06] VenCap : aah ok.
[2017-01-25 16:08:13] VenCap : so 1st one is "swap"
[2017-01-25 16:08:19] VenCap : what does (100x) mean?
[2017-01-25 16:08:26] BitMEX_Wally : max levearge
[2017-01-25 16:08:32] VenCap : whoa. max carnage
[2017-01-25 16:08:38] VenCap : so i certainly do not want to touch that
[2017-01-25 16:08:51] kogroken : You can use less leverage as well
[2017-01-25 16:08:54] VenCap : or does it mean UP TO 100x ?
[2017-01-25 16:08:57] VenCap : ah ha.
[2017-01-25 16:09:01] kogroken : yeah
[2017-01-25 16:09:04] VenCap : ok.
[2017-01-25 16:09:07] VenCap : and no funding fee?
[2017-01-25 16:09:23] VenCap : wait, wally answered before, fee is built in
[2017-01-25 16:09:30] VenCap : i think this system is better no?
[2017-01-25 16:10:10] kogroken : Depends
[2017-01-25 16:11:02] kogroken : In the end funding rate / trade fees don't matter too much, unless market is very sideways or you open and close very often
[2017-01-25 16:11:29] VenCap : i see, i tend to hold position open till death or glory
[2017-01-25 16:13:41] VenCap : will keep this short open till $500 USD
[2017-01-25 16:14:12] Farzad : time to short boyz
[2017-01-25 16:14:25] VenCap : Farzad: amen to that
[2017-01-25 16:14:35] -_- : i dont see this going down any more
[2017-01-25 16:14:41] -_- : if it was going to dump it would have already
[2017-01-25 16:15:45] Farzad : I think it will go down to 884 at least
[2017-01-25 16:16:17] Farzad : currently it is on the top of the triangle
[2017-01-25 16:16:53] Farzad : http://www.tradingview.com/x/ycq4rSsU
[2017-01-25 16:17:36] VenCap : whoa Farzad looking at that chart
[2017-01-25 16:17:43] VenCap : major red candles about to join the party
[2017-01-25 16:19:00] Farzad : if it can break 880 support level, we will see some tall red canmdles
[2017-01-25 16:19:56] Farzad : you may place some stop market orders below 880
[2017-01-25 16:19:58] VenCap : Farzad: agreed
[2017-01-25 16:20:55] keesverhoeven : If we all go short like crazies it's going down right? ;)
[2017-01-25 16:21:09] Farzad : sure
[2017-01-25 16:21:36] keesverhoeven : Lets :)
[2017-01-25 16:21:58] Farzad : OK I am pushing down now !
[2017-01-25 16:22:08] Farzad : with all my strenght
[2017-01-25 16:22:28] Farzad : strength*
[2017-01-25 16:22:45] Farzad : hummmmmmmmm
[2017-01-25 16:22:58] Farzad : seems it is working boyz
[2017-01-25 16:22:59] Farzad : lol
[2017-01-25 16:23:36] keesverhoeven : See :)
[2017-01-25 16:24:22] FreeBitcoins : rekt
[2017-01-25 16:24:56] Farzad : FreeBitcoins: Can I have some free bitcoins ?
[2017-01-25 16:25:37] FreeBitcoins : Farzad: yeah sure, take them from the trade engine
[2017-01-25 16:26:28] VenCap : Farzad: go long take some of my high funding fees
[2017-01-25 16:26:58] Farzad : Actually I am short and losing on funding like hell :(
[2017-01-25 16:28:21] Avalanche : bitstamp 894, bitfinex 891.5, huobi and okc also but index price is at 895.3 ? from where does it collect that info ?
[2017-01-25 16:29:23] Avalanche : pardon, mark price
[2017-01-25 16:29:58] rapidgains : okcoin
[2017-01-25 16:30:18] rapidgains : + bitstamp
[2017-01-25 16:31:21] -_- : okcoin usd $899 bitstamp $892
[2017-01-25 16:31:38] -_- : average of that which is 895.51 right now
[2017-01-25 16:37:26] Papou : yep
[2017-01-25 16:37:29] Papou : 840 next stop
[2017-01-25 16:37:32] Papou : future at 865
[2017-01-25 16:37:35] Papou : wont budge
[2017-01-25 16:37:37] Papou : thats not good
[2017-01-25 16:37:53] Papou : might see futures break under 800
[2017-01-25 16:37:58] Papou : 798 bottom skim
[2017-01-25 16:38:20] Papou : chinese fled to gold already
[2017-01-25 16:38:53] Farzad : 880 is the next stop
[2017-01-25 16:39:00] Farzad : it a strong support line
[2017-01-25 16:39:17] Papou : are u dumb
[2017-01-25 16:39:29] Papou : next dump will smash
[2017-01-25 16:39:51] Papou : its going to be the bull squeeze into chinese 840 longs
[2017-01-25 16:39:58] Papou : then they do next bull trap back up to 880
[2017-01-25 16:40:12] Papou : then final caputalation 740 or below honestly
[2017-01-25 16:40:20] Papou : im suspecting 550-650 consolidation may-jun
[2017-01-25 16:42:35] Farzad : well, my advice is to follow the market and dont try to predict it like that
[2017-01-25 16:43:20] Farzad : it may be $2000 in may-june
[2017-01-25 16:43:23] Farzad : who knows ?
[2017-01-25 16:43:46] Papou : thats highly unrealistic
[2017-01-25 16:43:47] Farzad : ride with market trends
[2017-01-25 16:43:49] Papou : considering many factors
[2017-01-25 16:43:49] CaptainDean : exactly, the dumb poeple are the one thinking they know the future
[2017-01-25 16:44:09] Papou : im presenting you logical reasoning
[2017-01-25 16:44:12] Papou : and why we are dumping
[2017-01-25 16:44:19] CaptainDean : that's fine
[2017-01-25 16:44:22] Papou : why will be break 2k, what is the logical reasoning
[2017-01-25 16:44:43] CaptainDean : even if it's highly unprobable
[2017-01-25 16:44:55] CaptainDean : it's a possiblity
[2017-01-25 16:45:28] -_- : no dump. only pump now. china happy
[2017-01-25 16:45:46] Farzad : why did bitcoin break from $1 to $1200 ? the same logic can be applied to it to break $2000
[2017-01-25 16:46:34] Farzad : it is supply and demand and speculation
[2017-01-25 16:46:38] -_- : the bots here shouldnt follow 0kcoin quarterly. that book is so thin. 1 person manipulating the whole thing which causes the price here to be out of wack
[2017-01-25 16:46:42] VenCap : demand right now is weak
[2017-01-25 16:47:40] Farzad : in long term perspective bitcoin is bullish 100%
[2017-01-25 16:48:05] -_- : quarterly here should follow the index price at least
[2017-01-25 16:49:09] -_- : 1 wall left on 0kcoin quarterly and bitmex xbth17 should be at 870
[2017-01-25 16:50:21] Papou : because farzad the chinese pumped it
[2017-01-25 16:50:25] Papou : and its why they exit pumped recently
[2017-01-25 16:50:58] Papou : its not coincidence massive parabolic pump in such a short time
[2017-01-25 16:51:03] Papou : then pboc/exchange fud...
[2017-01-25 16:51:05] Papou : right.
[2017-01-25 16:51:10] Papou : was chinese exit pump
[2017-01-25 16:51:18] Papou : fireworks begin jan 28
[2017-01-25 16:52:15] abbey : good feeling about this one
[2017-01-25 16:53:03] Papou : china loves to beat the west at things
[2017-01-25 16:53:09] Papou : bitcoin has been a great victory for them
[2017-01-25 16:53:42] Papou : i feel horrible for the bags over 1000
[2017-01-25 16:53:53] ZoNi : finally
[2017-01-25 16:53:59] ZoNi : quaterly breaking up
[2017-01-25 16:57:31] Papou : i think china realizes how dumb the west is
[2017-01-25 16:57:37] Papou : and they are just taunting the bulls at this point
[2017-01-25 17:01:22] cryptokeeper : it will be a slow bleed out
[2017-01-25 17:05:41] Ahhere : Guise did we dump yet I'm still bored
[2017-01-25 17:06:14] Ahhere : Should I close my longs or YOLO?
[2017-01-25 17:06:22] -_- : we spent the last 4 hours inching upwards for some reason
[2017-01-25 17:06:32] Ahhere : fucking honey badger
[2017-01-25 17:10:04] cryptokeeper : Ahhere: YOLO
[2017-01-25 17:12:22] -_- : someone on 0kcoin bought the price up a bit and added 500 btc. gonna take a while to defeat the bullwhales
[2017-01-25 17:12:46] cryptokeeper : -_-: patience grasshoppa ;)
[2017-01-25 17:14:03] cryptokeeper : it will turn down... and back up and back down... again and again...
[2017-01-25 17:14:03] Papou : adding 500 btc could be a short
[2017-01-25 17:14:10] Papou : okcoin isnt even majority short yet
[2017-01-25 17:14:18] Papou : bulls are hoping superman comes save them
[2017-01-25 17:39:23] thomaskikansha : okc spiked to 905
[2017-01-25 17:39:54] MikeHunt : Papou: its like on titanic, by time panic started, there were no boats left to escape on
[2017-01-25 17:39:59] MikeHunt : maybe no shorts left ;)
[2017-01-25 17:53:32] KyllingLolsson : Puttning on my shorts
[2017-01-25 17:55:38] Ugly_Old_Goat : Right now we could test the Jan highs or the Jan lows. But if we test the lows March will have little poltential
[2017-01-25 17:56:52] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: there is no power left in thing
[2017-01-25 17:57:04] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: china pump has been murdered by pboc
[2017-01-25 17:57:19] Ugly_Old_Goat : Spreaders are selling spot elsewhere and buying March to lock in 30 bucks. No reason to sell spot jere
[2017-01-25 17:59:59] Ugly_Old_Goat : The buyers here are strong hands. just like the sellears at 1200-1300. Thye were the srrong hands
[2017-01-25 18:00:55] Ugly_Old_Goat : Thje rubber band is sttreched. It is only a matter of time.
[2017-01-25 18:01:15] Ugly_Old_Goat : Does not mean it cannot strecth some more
[2017-01-25 18:01:53] Ugly_Old_Goat : But if it does , the n time to add more.
[2017-01-25 18:02:10] zanza : its hard to really arb here because ADL/DPL
[2017-01-25 18:02:37] MikeHunt : i suspect if this really does fomo down, ADL will start raping
[2017-01-25 18:02:40] Ugly_Old_Goat : Just like selling Marrch of 60+ and adding all the way to 160+
[2017-01-25 18:03:14] Ugly_Old_Goat : Time to cover and get where we need to be.
[2017-01-25 18:03:32] Ugly_Old_Goat : Inverse markets are rare olpportunityu
[2017-01-25 18:03:42] Papou : what strong hands bro
[2017-01-25 18:03:49] Papou : ppl say that to get ppl to hold so they can cash out instead of them
[2017-01-25 18:04:04] Papou : only chinese insiders had sells over 1100+
[2017-01-25 18:04:17] Papou : we were there very birefly, hit 8888 cny which is their lucky number and boom down
[2017-01-25 18:04:28] Papou : how can you not blatantly see manipulation
[2017-01-25 18:04:36] Yuppie : Does OKCoin charge borrowing on fututes margin?
[2017-01-25 18:04:42] Papou : yes
[2017-01-25 18:04:58] Ugly_Old_Goat : I am not Chiness and I solld evertying over 1100
[2017-01-25 18:04:59] Yuppie : So not like here..
[2017-01-25 18:05:33] Ugly_Old_Goat : I have been a buyer from 876 all the way down to 735 where I bot in a big way
[2017-01-25 18:05:53] Ugly_Old_Goat : It we test lows I will be a buyer again.
[2017-01-25 18:06:02] Yuppie : Anywhere I can see the details at OKCoin? Their website doesnt really explain...
[2017-01-25 18:06:38] MikeHunt : Yuppie: you mean like chart?
[2017-01-25 18:07:10] Yuppie : Yeah like borrowing rates for leverage on futures
[2017-01-25 18:07:18] -_- : 0kcoin you buy 10x or 20x and pay fee to enter your position
[2017-01-25 18:07:25] -_- : 10x or 20x leverage
[2017-01-25 18:07:29] Ugly_Old_Goat : what is the website your are talking about?
[2017-01-25 18:07:32] -_- : exit any time
[2017-01-25 18:07:34] Yuppie : Nothing else?
[2017-01-25 18:07:37] -_- : or wait till settlement
[2017-01-25 18:07:40] -_- : it's very basic
[2017-01-25 18:07:48] Yuppie : I see thanks
[2017-01-25 18:09:42] Ahhere : Are there any bulls left guise?
[2017-01-25 18:09:48] Ahhere : who is buying?
[2017-01-25 18:10:14] MikeHunt : cant be good wen u have a small position short and 5 ADL lights
[2017-01-25 18:11:17] Ahhere : feels elastic band'y
[2017-01-25 18:11:18] Papou : i know right LOL
[2017-01-25 18:11:30] Ugly_Old_Goat : I am a buyer,be could potential with low rish
[2017-01-25 18:11:33] Papou : cny and future have such negative premium
[2017-01-25 18:11:35] Papou : everyone is loaded
[2017-01-25 18:11:40] Papou : ride the bearwhale boys
[2017-01-25 18:11:56] Ahhere : half of us will cry - we should buy the losers some beers or sth
[2017-01-25 18:12:00] -_- : i'll believe it when it starts dumping
[2017-01-25 18:12:25] Ahhere : some trezors for their no coins
[2017-01-25 18:12:28] Ugly_Old_Goat : Just keep paying me every 8 hours
[2017-01-25 18:12:41] Ugly_Old_Goat : Lets see who runs out of money first
[2017-01-25 18:13:51] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: this thing tanks quickly
[2017-01-25 18:13:54] MikeHunt : dont get too confident
[2017-01-25 18:13:55] MikeHunt : ;)
[2017-01-25 18:14:13] Ugly_Old_Goat : March is 30 under spot. Perp is 3 under spot and pays me 3 times a day. Both best buys in btc markets
[2017-01-25 18:14:37] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: pressuming this goes down it wouldnt be worth it
[2017-01-25 18:15:27] Ugly_Old_Goat : I am not confident at lall, Just bery well margined and waiting for bigger opportuniity iif you get your sellloff
[2017-01-25 18:15:41] Ugly_Old_Goat : So it is a win/win for me
[2017-01-25 18:16:18] Ugly_Old_Goat : The key is to have deep pockets and not riisk too much
[2017-01-25 18:16:36] Ugly_Old_Goat : Money managment is everything
[2017-01-25 18:17:33] Ugly_Old_Goat : Those who do not manage money well mover the marketts and give opporunity to those who do manage money well
[2017-01-25 18:19:16] Ugly_Old_Goat : Really? We could drop 30 dollars and March not go down at all
[2017-01-25 18:19:44] Ugly_Old_Goat : Good bet sellers have sold into a deep deep hole
[2017-01-25 18:19:50] -_- : march is following 0kcoin quarterly
[2017-01-25 18:20:05] Ugly_Old_Goat : Could clean clocks on upside this time
[2017-01-25 18:20:41] MikeHunt : Ugly_Old_Goat: i think we'll go down a lot more than $30
[2017-01-25 18:21:17] Ugly_Old_Goat : Well we need to go down 30 before we go down more
[2017-01-25 18:22:00] -_- : now china sleeping. no more volume or movement for a while
[2017-01-25 18:22:24] MikeHunt : apparently dump is postponed til friday
[2017-01-25 18:22:42] Ugly_Old_Goat : Just remember to pay me again in one hour, please
[2017-01-25 18:22:43] -_- : quarterly isnt even bouncing any more. no more money to be made
[2017-01-25 18:23:29] Ugly_Old_Goat : My average purchase goes down ewery 8 hours
[2017-01-25 18:30:12] Ugly_Old_Goat : payday in 90 minutes
[2017-01-25 18:30:17] MikeHunt : okc is definately being dumped on
[2017-01-25 18:30:23] Ugly_Old_Goat : Thank you for your support
[2017-01-25 18:30:31] MikeHunt : 150 BTC dump and then a few small buys to prop it up
[2017-01-25 18:34:23] Ugly_Old_Goat : Pay Day in 85 minutes
[2017-01-25 18:35:43] Ugly_Old_Goat : IIt may well be that perp shorts will need to buy out at 10+ to avoid future payments
[2017-01-25 18:36:05] Ugly_Old_Goat : Trading at par now I see
[2017-01-25 18:39:31] Ugly_Old_Goat : Payday in 80 minutes
[2017-01-25 18:40:24] j8 : thanks for the update
[2017-01-25 18:42:55] cryptokeeper : The funding is crazy... last night and this morning people were saying it was like taking 30USD every 8hrs
[2017-01-25 18:42:59] Ugly_Old_Goat : Remember you are paying and Ugly Old Goat for the privilegie of being short btc
[2017-01-25 18:43:21] Ugly_Old_Goat : Ugly Is Beautiful!
[2017-01-25 18:43:21] cryptokeeper : Ugly_Old_Goat: lol
[2017-01-25 18:43:45] cryptokeeper : Ugly_Old_Goat: what sort of percentage are you getting every 8hrs
[2017-01-25 18:44:35] Ugly_Old_Goat : I have been paid $7 per btc in last 24 hours
[2017-01-25 18:44:36] MikeHunt : cryptokeeper: avg is 0.2% iirc
[2017-01-25 18:44:56] cryptokeeper : Ugly_Old_Goat: so I am guessing the exchange takes more than half then
[2017-01-25 18:45:00] Ugly_Old_Goat : Thank your fellas for your support
[2017-01-25 18:45:05] cryptokeeper : some people were getting taxed #30usd for 3/4 btc
[2017-01-25 18:45:41] j8 : no they weren't
[2017-01-25 18:45:48] cryptokeeper : no?
[2017-01-25 18:45:54] j8 : 3/4 btc of margin with a big leveraged position, maybe
[2017-01-25 18:46:11] cryptokeeper : yea most likely
[2017-01-25 18:46:24] Ugly_Old_Goat : Biitmex takes nothing. The shorts currenlly pay the longs the funding rate for privilege fo staying short
[2017-01-25 18:46:43] Ugly_Old_Goat : Again, thank your for your support
[2017-01-25 18:46:44] cryptokeeper : Ugly_Old_Goat: roger that
[2017-01-25 18:46:55] Ugly_Old_Goat : Like shootng fish in a barrel
[2017-01-25 18:47:22] cryptokeeper : lol
[2017-01-25 18:47:38] cryptokeeper : what if people close before funding are they exempt?
[2017-01-25 18:47:53] BitMEX_Greg : cryptokeeper: The funding is not an exchange fee, the funding is 100% swapped between longs and shorts. BitMEX takes no part of the funding
[2017-01-25 18:47:55] Ugly_Old_Goat : Lets see, hat should I buy? March at a 30 dollar discount or perrp at below spot that pays me every 8 hours?
[2017-01-25 18:48:13] BitMEX_Greg : cryptokeeper: If you do not hold a position when the funding is charged / paid, then you do not pay or receive the funding
[2017-01-25 18:48:43] Ugly_Old_Goat : Looks like some here don't get it BitMex_Greg, thanks for cluing them in
[2017-01-25 18:48:53] BitMEX_Greg : No problem
[2017-01-25 18:48:58] -_- : Ugly_Old_Goat: people who long march are expecting the premium to be like $40 in the end. and if you long swap and price goes up then longers pay the fee every 8 hours
[2017-01-25 18:49:05] Ugly_Old_Goat : I cost me on the way up but I learned qucikly'
[2017-01-25 18:49:22] -_- : but if you expect price to continue going down the longing swap to get paid is the right idea if you dont want to short
[2017-01-25 18:49:46] Ugly_Old_Goat : Correct the the fee noirmallly goes to the longs,
[2017-01-25 18:50:13] Ugly_Old_Goat : This is an inverted market and very unusual
[2017-01-25 18:50:52] Ugly_Old_Goat : The wales are buying March and selling elsewhere
[2017-01-25 18:51:05] -_- : still i rather short march and ride a bigger discount if this dumps. then long around the bottom and ride it to a premium
[2017-01-25 18:51:25] -_- : i rather not pay fees for being on the correct side
[2017-01-25 18:51:32] Ugly_Old_Goat : Between now and March 30 thie discount will disappear
[2017-01-25 18:56:04] Ugly_Old_Goat : It is very doubtlful being short in correct in the long run
[2017-01-25 18:56:49] Farzad : Quick question boyz, I bought some XBTH17 on 876.58 and sold them on 877.00. still made a loss ! what is the math behind it ?
[2017-01-25 18:56:51] Ugly_Old_Goat : I you get your sell off I am a huge buyer plus you will be covering your shorts
[2017-01-25 18:57:12] BitMEX_Greg : Farzad: Are you factoring in trade fees?
[2017-01-25 18:57:20] Ugly_Old_Goat : If you made the market you came our ahead
[2017-01-25 18:57:49] Ugly_Old_Goat : If you took the market you lost a bit Farzad
[2017-01-25 18:58:12] Farzad : BitMEX_Greg: no, you mean fees can outweigh a 42 cents profit ?
[2017-01-25 18:58:34] Farzad : Ugly_Old_Goat: no It was limit order. I made 42 cents on that trade
[2017-01-25 18:59:05] Ugly_Old_Goat : Ok your got ithen
[2017-01-25 18:59:35] rapidgains : Farzad: yes
[2017-01-25 19:00:01] rapidgains : fees will set you back a dollar
[2017-01-25 19:00:26] Ugly_Old_Goat : PayDay in 59 minutes
[2017-01-25 19:01:12] Ugly_Old_Goat : All shorts please have adequate funds in your account to pay me. My family needs to eat
[2017-01-25 19:01:26] Ugly_Old_Goat : I hope the market goes down for you
[2017-01-25 19:02:29] j8 : problem is you can't lock in a return in USD when everything's negative. you can sell spot and buy the futures discount or get swap funding, but you still lose if the price crashes
[2017-01-25 19:05:07] Ugly_Old_Goat : J8 you are correct, but that is because you are thinking in dollars. I only think in btc, the game is to increase btc, not $$$
[2017-01-25 19:05:32] j8 : ok, have fun then!
[2017-01-25 19:06:11] BitMEX_Greg : Farzad: You can check in your Trade History (https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory) the fees you paid on your entry and exit
[2017-01-25 19:06:26] sleger : the price of bread is more constant in usd terms than in btc terms though... @Ugly_Old_Goat Unless you eat different ?
[2017-01-25 19:06:44] j8 : he doesn't think in bread
[2017-01-25 19:08:26] Ugly_Old_Goat : I think only btc, went from 0 to 1000+ while dollar keeps declining from 30 dollars per ounce of gold to 1000+ per ounce of gold, same applies to bread
[2017-01-25 19:09:05] cryptokeeper : funding gets taken from total balance right not available
[2017-01-25 19:09:09] cryptokeeper : that is correct is it not?
[2017-01-25 19:09:21] BitMEX_Greg : cryptokeeper: From Realised PNL
[2017-01-25 19:09:23] Ugly_Old_Goat : PayDay in 50 minutes
[2017-01-25 19:09:57] cryptokeeper : BitMEX_Greg: but it comes off the top of your total account right? not the available
[2017-01-25 19:10:10] Ugly_Old_Goat : Please stay short and don't forget to pay this Ugly Old Goat
[2017-01-25 19:10:13] cryptokeeper : what if people are max leveraged and have none available?
[2017-01-25 19:10:17] rapidgains : % of your trade value
[2017-01-25 19:10:27] j8 : cryptokeeper: maintenance margin includes the next funding
[2017-01-25 19:10:38] cryptokeeper : roger that
[2017-01-25 19:10:40] arbitrage101 : easier to rob the bread store than trade here
[2017-01-25 19:11:35] Ugly_Old_Goat : cryhptokeeper those kind of traders eventually lose everything and help feed all my little goats
[2017-01-25 19:12:08] Farzad : BitMEX_Greg: Yes I can see the fees here. I paid 800 satoshi for opening and received 200 satoshi for closing. seems I made 400 satoshi profit which makes it -200 satoshi total loss.
[2017-01-25 19:12:47] Farzad : it was a test trade by the way
[2017-01-25 19:12:53] Farzad : I am testing some strategies
[2017-01-25 19:13:04] sleger : failed
[2017-01-25 19:13:04] Farzad : dont like to test on testnet
[2017-01-25 19:13:04] BitMEX_Greg : Farzad: Sure no problem, just let us know if you have any other questions or where to find information on the site
[2017-01-25 19:13:30] Ugly_Old_Goat : PayDay in 45 minutes
[2017-01-25 19:13:30] Farzad : BitMEX_Greg: Thanks bro :)
[2017-01-25 19:13:55] cryptokeeper : Ugly_Old_Goat: indeed.
[2017-01-25 19:13:59] arbitrage101 : ya bro, pay day
[2017-01-25 19:14:23] cryptokeeper : ya we get the funding rate is going to hit.. enough about it already lol
[2017-01-25 19:14:23] j8 : it's not pay day if you get paid three times a day
[2017-01-25 19:14:35] cryptokeeper : we dont need 15 minute time checks
[2017-01-25 19:14:37] arbitrage101 : pay hour
[2017-01-25 19:14:54] arbitrage101 : let me check my funding history
[2017-01-25 19:15:13] Ugly_Old_Goat : Wow! PayDay three times a day! I love it!
[2017-01-25 19:15:14] Farzad : all shorts close your positions in 43 minutes, so they dont get paid :p
[2017-01-25 19:15:47] Ugly_Old_Goat : Farzad they can't do that unless we got to a $10 premium
[2017-01-25 19:15:54] arbitrage101 : Got around 64 usd in the last 3 funding period
[2017-01-25 19:15:59] VenCap : Farzad: mine willl be closed not paying any more tax aka bash on head with baseball bat
[2017-01-25 19:16:03] arbitrage101 : enough for food, and rent
[2017-01-25 19:16:17] arbitrage101 : but not honey
[2017-01-25 19:16:18] Ugly_Old_Goat : At which time I will be a seller and buy March if it is at a good discount
[2017-01-25 19:16:40] VenCap : i amsurprsied no one dumps to kill the people wo are long
[2017-01-25 19:16:53] arbitrage101 : VenCap: chinese new year effect
[2017-01-25 19:17:00] rapidgains : trade quarterly if you don't like funding
[2017-01-25 19:17:00] arbitrage101 : dont ruin the mood
[2017-01-25 19:17:03] cryptokeeper : Farzad: lol
[2017-01-25 19:17:37] Ugly_Old_Goat : I am happy just to sit on this ugly olld ass and get paid, but whatever your shorts want to do is fin e with me
[2017-01-25 19:18:48] Ugly_Old_Goat : 40 minutes to payday
[2017-01-25 19:19:32] arbitrage101 : we want bread!
[2017-01-25 19:19:35] arbitrage101 : we want bread
[2017-01-25 19:21:44] cryptokeeper : I want pizza not bread
[2017-01-25 19:22:54] rapidgains : so, is nogano rekt for good
[2017-01-25 19:23:18] arbitrage101 : what happen to him
[2017-01-25 19:23:27] -_- : who has that big whale wall on quarterly
[2017-01-25 19:23:32] arbitrage101 : usually preach his religion here
[2017-01-25 19:23:37] rapidgains : lol
[2017-01-25 19:24:42] cryptokeeper : -_-: where
[2017-01-25 19:25:02] -_- : xbth17
[2017-01-25 19:25:09] -_- : down to 59942 though
[2017-01-25 19:25:58] cryptokeeper : do profits/losses realize immediately like the perp contracts? Or you have to wait until contract date is settled?
[2017-01-25 19:26:09] cryptokeeper : obviously losses would
[2017-01-25 19:26:59] Battlebots : Good morning my sweet friends.
[2017-01-25 19:28:47] Battlebots : For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
[2017-01-25 19:30:10] -_- : cryptokeeper: all realize as soon as you close
[2017-01-25 19:30:23] cryptokeeper : -_-: thanks
[2017-01-25 19:34:04] Farzad : anyone knows how can I get "Unrealised PNL" of all open positions from API ?
[2017-01-25 19:34:10] Ugly_Old_Goat : 35 minutes to payday
[2017-01-25 19:34:24] Ugly_Old_Goat : 25 minutes to PayDay!
[2017-01-25 19:35:13] airitout : can someone mute/ban ugly_old_goat?
[2017-01-25 19:38:21] Ugly_Old_Goat : Promise to pay me and I will stfu
[2017-01-25 19:40:51] -_- : ignore feature should be coming in the next big update i hope
[2017-01-25 19:42:08] cryptokeeper : yeah its getting annoying and old
[2017-01-25 19:42:14] cryptokeeper : just like ugly old goat
[2017-01-25 19:42:25] cryptokeeper : hey you gonna give us check points once it resets too?
[2017-01-25 19:46:12] Ugly_Old_Goat : Hey fellas, they call this the troll box. It is for trollls
[2017-01-25 19:46:52] Ugly_Old_Goat : If you don't like trolls go to redit
[2017-01-25 19:47:57] rapidgains : don't have to be an arse to be a troll
[2017-01-25 19:49:22] Ugly_Old_Goat : Look, I am Ugly and Old and a Goat on top of that.
[2017-01-25 19:50:19] sleger : oh wow
[2017-01-25 19:50:35] sleger : funding has been canceled until the end of the month !! you guys saw that in the announcement in the blog ?
[2017-01-25 19:50:55] BitMEX_Sam : :gun:
[2017-01-25 19:51:18] Ugly_Old_Goat : And as for my arse I have chronic diarrhea and in need of a Depends change
[2017-01-25 19:53:26] rapidgains : okcoin orderbooks are sad
[2017-01-25 19:54:14] arbitrage101 : sleger: my kids need to eat !
[2017-01-25 19:54:27] arbitrage101 : think of the children
[2017-01-25 19:54:33] sleger : arbitrage101: have you thought about getting a job instead ?
[2017-01-25 19:54:40] arbitrage101 : nope
[2017-01-25 19:54:45] sleger : or not procreating if you cant do that
[2017-01-25 19:54:46] rapidgains : dump them
[2017-01-25 19:54:59] rapidgains : send funds to bitmex
[2017-01-25 19:55:16] Ugly_Old_Goat : But on the plus side I have 3 beautiful ladies who change my Depends
[2017-01-25 19:55:38] Ugly_Old_Goat : And its time for a change!
[2017-01-25 19:55:53] BitMEX_Sam : Try being funnier if you're going to troll
[2017-01-25 19:56:16] cryptokeeper : lol
[2017-01-25 19:56:33] Rado : sleger: remember that someone need to lose so we can make money
[2017-01-25 19:56:57] Ugly_Old_Goat : Wel I only wear special designer Depends with yellow btc happy faces inside and out
[2017-01-25 19:57:29] sleger : what sam said, you use too much % of the trollbox for your degree of (non) funniness
[2017-01-25 19:57:31] Ugly_Old_Goat : My three ladies love the happy faces
[2017-01-25 19:58:20] Ugly_Old_Goat : And on rare ocassions theire is a surprise inside
[2017-01-25 19:58:24] cryptokeeper : ABANDON SHIP
[2017-01-25 19:58:36] cryptokeeper : shes about to blow yarrrr
[2017-01-25 19:58:36] rapidgains : this chat is cringe
[2017-01-25 19:58:45] Ugly_Old_Goat : But that is increasingly rare, cause I am really really old
[2017-01-25 19:58:45] cryptokeeper : rapidgains: totally
[2017-01-25 19:59:30] Ugly_Old_Goat : pay day in 30 seconds
[2017-01-25 19:59:39] cryptokeeper : have fun with your pocket change
[2017-01-25 19:59:42] Battlebots : Ugly Old Goat how is your relationship with Jesus Christ?
[2017-01-25 20:00:13] Battlebots : It is not what goes in the mouth that defiles.. but what comes out.
[2017-01-25 20:00:30] Battlebots : There are things that come out of your mouth that I wouldn't even touch.
[2017-01-25 20:02:53] Baseballman : Anyone follow a guy named Clif High at halfpasthuman.com? Some interesting thoughts on BTC...
[2017-01-25 20:03:17] BTCDJS : :bitmex: @Battlebots Please delete your account immediately
[2017-01-25 20:03:38] Ugly_Old_Goat : Battlebots: You are indeed blessed that you do not poop your pants, I am sure yours does not stink either. This UglyOldGoat is a poor misirable sinnedr. One of His from whom He died and paid the price.
[2017-01-25 20:03:48] BTCDJS : Damn! I knew that wouldnt last long
[2017-01-25 20:04:36] BitMEX_Greg : Battlebots: Placing a chat ban. @Ugly_Old_Goat You are being warned also