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[2017-01-25 08:06:37] arbitrage101 : expect btc make suprising move after or during new year
[2017-01-25 08:08:17] j8 : no deposits, no leverage, and no liquidity
[2017-01-25 08:08:35] arbitrage101 : j8: yeah, think betting price to go down is a good move
[2017-01-25 08:08:49] arbitrage101 : doesnt take much to scare all the traders
[2017-01-25 08:09:09] j8 : it is, but it's getting to be a crowded trade
[2017-01-25 08:09:14] Apocalyptic : swap $3 above index, that's new
[2017-01-25 08:20:09] Derreck : looks like China makes like 55-60% of the current volume
[2017-01-25 08:20:20] Derreck : down from these fake 98%
[2017-01-25 08:24:44] bingbongfly : wierd bot on etc7d
[2017-01-25 08:24:55] bingbongfly : will will any order at 1520 and above
[2017-01-25 08:25:01] bingbongfly : fill
[2017-01-25 08:47:10] aethlios : sell off postponed for friday futures expiration.
[2017-01-25 08:48:39] Papou : yep
[2017-01-25 08:48:51] Papou : which is the day before the new years
[2017-01-25 08:48:53] Papou : chinese new years
[2017-01-25 08:49:37] Papou : https://cdn-enterprise.discourse.org/zcash/uploads/default/original/2X/7/74b5208bb5823d309633da3c4bb2b41c31f9f54f.jpg
[2017-01-25 08:50:21] Papou : china always wants to defeat the west
[2017-01-25 08:50:31] Papou : what best way than to drain money from them
[2017-01-25 08:50:58] Papou : bitcoin news articles are all paid shilling....no different than normal media...all shills for the normal markets
[2017-01-25 08:52:32] Papou : exit pump by china by insiders, release fud knews as an excuse for the dump, murder the bulls of the west
[2017-01-25 08:52:34] Papou : rinse and repeat
[2017-01-25 08:54:00] Papou : short until 840, long until 880 then short until 740-550, anywhere there is fair game
[2017-01-25 08:54:09] Papou : thats the best plays right now, all tops and bottoms
[2017-01-25 08:55:31] Papou : bulls are currently trapped, will get squeezed into chinese longs at 840
[2017-01-25 08:55:46] Papou : 2nd round bull trap at 880 to destroy morale
[2017-01-25 08:55:52] Papou : consolidation 550+
[2017-01-25 09:02:46] aethlios : gold silver bitcoin agricultural land usd cash the assets to hold for next years, no financial assets, no stocks, bank deposits.
[2017-01-25 09:17:21] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTUSD`: buy 300 @ 897.89
[2017-01-25 09:33:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 690 @ 874.52
[2017-01-25 09:39:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 400 @ 0.001499
[2017-01-25 09:40:51] aethlios : traders ALARM
[2017-01-25 09:41:27] MikeHunt : still worth going h17?
[2017-01-25 09:42:26] aethlios : pboc update says tradingview chat
[2017-01-25 09:43:18] wurstgelee : pboc update=more investigations, right?
[2017-01-25 09:43:25] bingbongfly : wurstgelee: there is no update
[2017-01-25 09:43:29] wurstgelee : according to google translator
[2017-01-25 09:43:29] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-01-25 09:43:31] bingbongfly : it's chinese new year
[2017-01-25 09:43:46] wurstgelee : bingbongfly: http://beijing.pbc.gov.cn/beijing/132005/3245162/index.html
[2017-01-25 09:43:48] bingbongfly : maybe some fud rumour might be going around
[2017-01-25 09:43:52] wurstgelee : and whats that?
[2017-01-25 09:43:57] wurstgelee : see date and time. and url
[2017-01-25 09:44:06] bingbongfly : yes, I'm reading it
[2017-01-25 09:44:10] wurstgelee : ...
[2017-01-25 09:44:11] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-01-25 09:45:09] bingbongfly : nothing new lol
[2017-01-25 09:45:25] bingbongfly : why would they post that today?
[2017-01-25 09:45:27] bingbongfly : very odd
[2017-01-25 09:45:34] bingbongfly : let's see how the price reacts
[2017-01-25 09:45:46] wurstgelee : either nothing or down
[2017-01-25 09:45:50] wurstgelee : this is no "up"-news
[2017-01-25 09:45:51] wurstgelee : ;)
[2017-01-25 09:45:56] bingbongfly : let's hope you are right
[2017-01-25 09:46:28] BitMEX_Wally : Old news
[2017-01-25 09:47:33] bingbongfly : BitMEX_Wally: olds news, but seems to be posted recently, how come+
[2017-01-25 09:48:42] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: i have a unrealised PNL of NaN? ;)
[2017-01-25 09:48:46] wurstgelee : wtf?
[2017-01-25 09:49:30] wurstgelee : i would like it to be a number again tbh
[2017-01-25 09:49:33] wurstgelee : oh, there it is
[2017-01-25 09:49:34] wurstgelee : thanks
[2017-01-25 09:49:36] wurstgelee : 8)
[2017-01-25 09:49:47] wurstgelee : wtf was that?
[2017-01-25 09:52:03] BitMEX_Wally : wurstgelee: Not sure, some WebSocket update glitch I suspect
[2017-01-25 09:52:28] BitMEX_Wally : Anything in your browser console?
[2017-01-25 09:52:30] -_- : I got NaN earlier too
[2017-01-25 09:52:55] wurstgelee : hm. so its not me :)
[2017-01-25 09:52:58] wurstgelee : nothing in console
[2017-01-25 09:53:05] BitMEX_Wally : Was it just Unrealised PNL, what about the ROE number too?
[2017-01-25 09:53:16] wurstgelee : roe was 0.00 iirc
[2017-01-25 09:53:26] wurstgelee : not 100% sure
[2017-01-25 09:53:49] wurstgelee : (i should have been positive at the time)
[2017-01-25 09:53:52] wurstgelee : *it
[2017-01-25 09:54:08] -_- : $28 discount now nice
[2017-01-25 09:56:04] wurstgelee : not enough.
[2017-01-25 09:56:11] wurstgelee : china is @ $854
[2017-01-25 09:57:05] BitMEX_Wally : wurstgelee: Please grab a screenshot if it happens again
[2017-01-25 09:57:12] wurstgelee : BitMEX_Wally: i'll do
[2017-01-25 09:57:19] rullwull : okc.cn doesnt proceed my btc withdrawal for more than 4 hours
[2017-01-25 09:57:51] Apocalyptic : rullwull: socking
[2017-01-25 09:57:55] Apocalyptic : *shocking
[2017-01-25 09:58:05] rullwull : trading volumes dropped, but they said big volumes for withdraw
[2017-01-25 10:04:13] Derreck : if 0kcoin is scamming there would be a bloodbath
[2017-01-25 10:05:05] Apocalyptic : someone said there were rumours about it being insolvent the other day
[2017-01-25 10:05:53] MikeHunt : if u were shorting on swap now would h17 still be worth it to avoid fees etc. ?
[2017-01-25 10:10:08] -_- : depends on position size and how long you want to hold it
[2017-01-25 10:10:27] -_- : could always get ADL if this dumps big on the first leg of the dump too
[2017-01-25 10:13:55] -_- : sucks. watched xbth17 hit 884 and didnt short
[2017-01-25 10:14:04] -_- : now 865 and i wanna jump in a short
[2017-01-25 10:14:47] micmix : rullwull: I was on the phone with them last week and they said larger withdrawals will be delayed for several hours. It might be worse now.
[2017-01-25 10:14:58] -_- : $33 discount now
[2017-01-25 10:15:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 12345 @ 863.59
[2017-01-25 10:15:03] -_- : almost lowest it has been in a week
[2017-01-25 10:15:25] MikeHunt : -_-: yeh im thinking about going stamp atm but i like the low trading fees here
[2017-01-25 10:15:32] MikeHunt : -_-: not sure i can trust finex
[2017-01-25 10:15:46] -_- : xbth17 like $5 away from new low
[2017-01-25 10:16:06] -_- : shits gonna get wild
[2017-01-25 10:16:17] -_- : i like how people see this as bullish
[2017-01-25 10:16:22] -_- : LOL
[2017-01-25 10:16:49] MikeHunt : -_-: if okc goes insolvent, even $400 might seem optimistic
[2017-01-25 10:16:56] -_- : new low
[2017-01-25 10:16:58] -_- : 855
[2017-01-25 10:17:02] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 635 @ 860.92
[2017-01-25 10:17:04] rapidtrades : sup bras?
[2017-01-25 10:17:10] rapidtrades : ur longs aint looking too hot
[2017-01-25 10:17:13] -_- : panic
[2017-01-25 10:17:16] -_- : huge discount now
[2017-01-25 10:17:20] -_- : almost $40
[2017-01-25 10:17:23] bingbongfly : I finally cave in yesterday
[2017-01-25 10:17:27] bingbongfly : to the short side of the force
[2017-01-25 10:17:28] bingbongfly : happy I did
[2017-01-25 10:17:31] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 1000 @ 5970.5
[2017-01-25 10:18:17] -_- : the issue is less liquidity now since when most longs entered
[2017-01-25 10:18:23] rapidtrades : $35...me lickey
[2017-01-25 10:18:23] bingbongfly : also, if anyone is interested in ETC
[2017-01-25 10:18:24] bingbongfly : https://gyazo.com/055f5be22ce57245c15ed437545dbd8d?token=54c71ac8a8e2d5a8453ec59121a0562c
[2017-01-25 10:18:24] -_- : 25k wall went away
[2017-01-25 10:18:30] bingbongfly : look at bbands, pinching superclose on 6 hours
[2017-01-25 10:18:35] bingbongfly : we'll have a move before settlement
[2017-01-25 10:19:28] -_- : was looking at etc since my alarm went off. i thought short but it's at the bottom so if you were gonna long then now is the time
[2017-01-25 10:19:34] micmix : MikeHunt: I don't think okc is insolvent, most likely they just need to transfer money from cold wallet several times per day to process large volume of withdrawals
[2017-01-25 10:20:00] -_- : i should have market bought a long on xbth17. tried to get filled at the bottom and it bounced
[2017-01-25 10:20:14] -_- : short the bounce i guess
[2017-01-25 10:20:38] -_- : almost new low for 0kcoin. 6155 CNY needs to break
[2017-01-25 10:22:18] MikeHunt : u guys thinks 0.25% fee on stamp is alright for 1hr trading?
[2017-01-25 10:23:16] Apocalyptic : MikeHunt: no leverage though
[2017-01-25 10:23:49] MikeHunt : i suppose i could leave 0.5btc here to play with and keep a long term position elsewhere
[2017-01-25 10:24:13] narnarfromnarnia : MikeHunt: isnt that high
[2017-01-25 10:24:26] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: yeh in comparison to bitmex
[2017-01-25 10:24:33] MikeHunt : but the fees here are intolerable atm
[2017-01-25 10:24:45] narnarfromnarnia : i see
[2017-01-25 10:24:59] narnarfromnarnia : are you short?
[2017-01-25 10:25:03] MikeHunt : yes
[2017-01-25 10:25:07] narnarfromnarnia : ok
[2017-01-25 10:25:24] narnarfromnarnia : well i wouldn't want a hold on funds while we could free fall
[2017-01-25 10:25:29] narnarfromnarnia : or in blockchain
[2017-01-25 10:26:25] bingbongfly : I was about to move some BTC from cold storage to sell, used a new wallet and had a way to low fee so it's stuck in limbo... rip
[2017-01-25 10:26:31] bingbongfly : At least i'm short as hedge
[2017-01-25 10:26:33] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: what are you proposing?
[2017-01-25 10:27:33] narnarfromnarnia : you think it will go much more neg than .22?
[2017-01-25 10:27:43] -_- : 0.375
[2017-01-25 10:27:55] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: i think we are in bear market
[2017-01-25 10:27:55] -_- : dump hasnt even started yet
[2017-01-25 10:28:05] narnarfromnarnia : yeah
[2017-01-25 10:28:12] MikeHunt : im planning on shorting for a while
[2017-01-25 10:28:29] MikeHunt : my natural inclination is to ride the storm out at stamp
[2017-01-25 10:29:08] narnarfromnarnia : wow daily doesn't look so good
[2017-01-25 10:29:15] rapidtrades : MOVE
[2017-01-25 10:29:17] rapidtrades : MOVE
[2017-01-25 10:29:22] rapidtrades : MOVE U PIECE OF SHIT
[2017-01-25 10:29:27] rapidtrades : PPL HAVE SHIT TO DO
[2017-01-25 10:29:28] narnarfromnarnia : https://www.tradingview.com/x/nTmqgCrY/
[2017-01-25 10:29:35] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2017-01-25 10:29:59] rapidtrades : god f*cking damit markets here are so inefficient they're dirivng me up the wall
[2017-01-25 10:30:03] narnarfromnarnia : i got greedy on 2 funding ago and opened a position and it dumped
[2017-01-25 10:30:11] VenCap : rapidtrades: i have been saying for the last 48hrs
[2017-01-25 10:30:16] narnarfromnarnia : this time i sold right before and it dropped like 8 bucks in a glitch
[2017-01-25 10:30:21] narnarfromnarnia : i thought i was in futures by mistake
[2017-01-25 10:30:56] narnarfromnarnia : ship might be taking on water here
[2017-01-25 10:32:06] rapidtrades : moveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[2017-01-25 10:34:01] REKT : Liquidated short on `XBTH17`: buy 8000 @ 865.08
[2017-01-25 10:34:03] VenCap : We need 6k okoin to break get this party started
[2017-01-25 10:34:14] VenCap : 75mins to escape....
[2017-01-25 10:36:38] narnarfromnarnia : ouch
[2017-01-25 10:36:40] narnarfromnarnia : how
[2017-01-25 10:36:44] narnarfromnarnia : we barely moved
[2017-01-25 10:36:44] rapidtrades : lol chinese exchange volume down at 2x stamp
[2017-01-25 10:36:54] rapidtrades : lol
[2017-01-25 10:37:02] rapidtrades : lol where are all the volume guys now
[2017-01-25 10:37:12] rapidtrades : we should be dooming no?
[2017-01-25 10:37:23] rapidtrades : volume, as worthless as they are
[2017-01-25 10:37:37] narnarfromnarnia : spready will increase
[2017-01-25 10:37:57] rapidtrades : guyzy volume is up we going to tze moonz!
[2017-01-25 10:38:20] MikeHunt : only way we're going to the moon is if it crashes into us
[2017-01-25 10:38:29] -_- : being held up by people trying to buy and move off of 0kcoin
[2017-01-25 10:38:47] rapidtrades : im gonna have so much fun reading reddit comments after we crash again
[2017-01-25 10:39:10] narnarfromnarnia : wht is best to avoid ADL?
[2017-01-25 10:39:53] MikeHunt : probably getting out of here
[2017-01-25 10:40:02] MikeHunt : just seems atm in bitcoin the rape is everywhere
[2017-01-25 10:40:16] narnarfromnarnia : teh rapening
[2017-01-25 10:40:33] narnarfromnarnia : yea its like either
[2017-01-25 10:40:39] narnarfromnarnia : A. Liduidation
[2017-01-25 10:40:42] narnarfromnarnia : B. ADL
[2017-01-25 10:40:56] narnarfromnarnia : C. win for a $5 gain
[2017-01-25 10:41:02] MikeHunt : D. Fees
[2017-01-25 10:42:34] -_- : have a position on swap, xbth17 and yuan
[2017-01-25 10:42:41] -_- : that way maybe all 3 wont get ADL
[2017-01-25 10:43:04] MikeHunt : -_-: problem is the prem already negative
[2017-01-25 10:43:07] MikeHunt : if it did go up
[2017-01-25 10:43:22] -_- : yeah risky shorting now on high leverage
[2017-01-25 10:43:44] -_- : to lower risk of getting adl you gotta be on like 5x margin too
[2017-01-25 10:43:46] MikeHunt : even on 1x leverage its pretty volatile
[2017-01-25 10:44:08] -_- : swap has most open contracts so most likely on there to get ADL
[2017-01-25 10:45:33] MikeHunt : debating whether to take the plunge and go h17 or go to stamp
[2017-01-25 10:45:43] MikeHunt : got until 13:00 to decide :/
[2017-01-25 10:45:49] -_- : yeah
[2017-01-25 10:45:53] -_- : i'd stay here
[2017-01-25 10:46:07] -_- : because if this dumps and you get adl just jump back in a short maybe
[2017-01-25 10:46:17] -_- : or else hold and wait to long like a $50+ discount
[2017-01-25 10:46:43] -_- : and ride the bounce. reshort and enjoy another leg down
[2017-01-25 10:46:51] -_- : easier said than done of course
[2017-01-25 10:47:35] -_- : longers are not using high margin it seems by the big drop to 855 we just had on xbth17
[2017-01-25 10:50:33] MikeHunt : if im right though this bear market could last a long time
[2017-01-25 10:51:06] -_- : yeah. how much undoing of this china pump will the large holders do
[2017-01-25 10:51:16] -_- : knowing next time it wont pump up super crazy fast
[2017-01-25 10:51:22] -_- : more time to accumulate cheap without china
[2017-01-25 10:52:01] MikeHunt : a slow fall could take until 2018
[2017-01-25 10:52:09] MikeHunt : maybe longer
[2017-01-25 10:52:32] MikeHunt : what we need is a black swan, then it would clear up real fast
[2017-01-25 10:52:43] -_- : it fell 5300 CNY to 2000 CNY after the ATH
[2017-01-25 10:52:56] -_- : with margin longs who knows maybe it hits 2000 cny again
[2017-01-25 10:53:45] -_- : when going down it can fly. since order books are super empty
[2017-01-25 10:54:39] -_- : bitmex order books will be empty. adl crazy. wont be able to get back in
[2017-01-25 10:54:46] -_- : almost worth it to short on 0kcoin futures
[2017-01-25 10:55:15] -_- : but gotta deal with socialized losses to the tune of 50% maybe
[2017-01-25 10:55:49] MikeHunt : yeh thats the other thing, if i went stamp, i dont have to worry about ADL
[2017-01-25 10:55:54] MikeHunt : wake up to a disaster
[2017-01-25 10:56:28] VenCap : ADL?
[2017-01-25 10:56:43] MikeHunt : VenCap: auto deleverage
[2017-01-25 10:56:57] VenCap : ah ha... thank you
[2017-01-25 10:57:30] -_- : bunch of people get margin called same time and there is a 400,000+ contract wall as price is tanking no one is going to eat it
[2017-01-25 10:57:42] -_- : 400,000 short contracts closed. ouch
[2017-01-25 10:58:06] MikeHunt : so u can understand why i dont feel safe here? lol
[2017-01-25 10:59:39] VenCap : but you cant margin trade on bitstamp right?
[2017-01-25 11:00:47] -_- : not yet
[2017-01-25 11:00:55] -_- : that's why i'd go to 0kcoin or bitfinex
[2017-01-25 11:01:05] -_- : 0kcoin if you dont have many btc and bitfinex if you do
[2017-01-25 11:01:23] VenCap : i see. Okcoin for non Chinese right?
[2017-01-25 11:01:30] -_- : okcoin.com correct
[2017-01-25 11:01:41] VenCap : bitfinex for bigger plays
[2017-01-25 11:01:42] MikeHunt : i dont really do margin trading here
[2017-01-25 11:02:05] MikeHunt : since i lost a bit ive been sticking to 1x
[2017-01-25 11:02:14] VenCap : yeah easy to get REKT
[2017-01-25 11:02:29] MikeHunt : i suppose i could leave 10% stash here and treat it as long term and go easy on leverage
[2017-01-25 11:03:09] VenCap : is bitfinex ope nto everyone?
[2017-01-25 11:03:20] -_- : cant margin trade in the usa
[2017-01-25 11:03:28] -_- : but i think anyone can deposit and withdraw and trade spot
[2017-01-25 11:03:43] VenCap : sweet in europe so all goood
[2017-01-25 11:03:59] -_- : xbth17 follows 0kcoin quarterly. both dumping right now even though no exchanges are moving
[2017-01-25 11:08:12] aethlios : futures will move the market now, basically 3 month okcoin.
[2017-01-25 11:10:17] MikeHunt : prem near $30 :/
[2017-01-25 11:10:21] MikeHunt : neg
[2017-01-25 11:10:55] -_- : yeah. mad i didnt short earlier at 880+
[2017-01-25 11:11:13] -_- : now getting in at the lowest point in the last 7 days. meh
[2017-01-25 11:12:48] -_- : wasting my time watching this super slow dump. 26 hours now
[2017-01-25 11:13:02] -_- : just dont want to be away when it starts
[2017-01-25 11:25:31] VenCap : always happens around 1-3am European time.
[2017-01-25 11:30:22] -_- : Maybe they are celebrating new year's early
[2017-01-25 11:32:38] -_- : Etc might dump. Getting closer to the edge
[2017-01-25 11:36:03] -_- : Bitmex really needs to be added to bitcoincheck. Prices so wild you don't know what it is unless you check the Website
[2017-01-25 11:36:21] -_- : Bitcoinchecker
[2017-01-25 11:43:00] herpinator : yeh I agree would be good to see bitmex on there, is there a way to contact them?
[2017-01-25 11:45:12] BitMEX_Wally : Bitcoin Checker the Android app?
[2017-01-25 11:45:40] BitMEX_Wally : You could add comments to this GitHub issue: https://github.com/mobnetic/BitcoinChecker/issues/256
[2017-01-25 11:50:54] miccheck12 : there's also a pull request, but last answer there didn't convince dev i guess
[2017-01-25 11:51:54] VenCap : 8 mins to funding... wheres my lube...
[2017-01-25 11:54:42] Ahhere : Has anyone ever been liquidated due to funding here?
[2017-01-25 11:55:43] enki0182 : funding gunna be +ve - wuickly buy before funding.
[2017-01-25 11:55:43] enki0182 : ?
[2017-01-25 12:00:15] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBJ24H`: sell 300 @ 101871
[2017-01-25 12:00:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `ETC7D`: sell 20 @ 0.001475
[2017-01-25 12:05:47] VenCap : bye bye 0.65 BTC
[2017-01-25 12:05:57] VenCap : Enjoy the funding who ever got it, spend it wisely!!!
[2017-01-25 12:06:06] VenCap : insert. . raging emoji
[2017-01-25 12:12:46] longbydefault : ?? what happened vencap
[2017-01-25 12:13:33] VenCap : The Funding whack over the head with hammer
[2017-01-25 12:13:43] VenCap : 3BTC i have paid in 24hrs. in fees.
[2017-01-25 12:13:46] VenCap : ridiculous.
[2017-01-25 12:13:56] VenCap : $2,100 in USD almost
[2017-01-25 12:14:21] VenCap : for playing with a few bitcoins at x25 leverage.
[2017-01-25 12:14:25] VenCap : ...............
[2017-01-25 12:14:29] longbydefault : whaaat? how did that happen... just in fees?
[2017-01-25 12:14:40] longbydefault : is that for the march futures only?
[2017-01-25 12:14:49] VenCap : Id like to be taken for dinner and had a godo few drinks first, you know what i am saying
[2017-01-25 12:14:58] enki0182 : up we go... time to meet the market
[2017-01-25 12:14:59] VenCap : just in "Funding (the mob)" fees
[2017-01-25 12:20:35] Ugly_Old_Goat : VenCap, if it makes you feel any better you are helping to feed my family
[2017-01-25 12:21:10] longbydefault : putting his children to school hehe
[2017-01-25 12:21:31] -_- : Short etc go go go
[2017-01-25 12:22:40] -_- : Should long swap and get paid
[2017-01-25 12:22:51] -_- : Btc going up.
[2017-01-25 12:22:56] Ugly_Old_Goat : Long 140 btc pays 1 btc every 24 hours
[2017-01-25 12:23:14] Ugly_Old_Goat : The cheapest btc in the work is right here
[2017-01-25 12:23:21] enki0182 : up - up up and away
[2017-01-25 12:23:35] Ugly_Old_Goat : March futures is great but perp is even better!
[2017-01-25 12:24:42] enki0182 : Ugly_Old_Goat: wtf - thanks for reminder - i just realised how good xbtm17d is right now
[2017-01-25 12:24:43] enki0182 : ty
[2017-01-25 12:25:13] VenCap : ugly old goat.. it does, glad to hear it :O)
[2017-01-25 12:26:34] Ugly_Old_Goat : I learned, got hit for 2 btc on the way up before I figured being long here was a bad idea
[2017-01-25 12:26:45] Ugly_Old_Goat : Now being short here is a bad idea
[2017-01-25 12:26:56] enki0182 : Ugly_Old_Goat: agree
[2017-01-25 12:27:15] enki0182 : bought at 888... selling at around 895
[2017-01-25 12:27:16] Ugly_Old_Goat : short here is playing with fire]
[2017-01-25 12:29:14] Ugly_Old_Goat : Why sell?
[2017-01-25 12:30:14] Ugly_Old_Goat : We have some shorts in big dodo, just like longs H at 1300, short 30 under is bad long term
[2017-01-25 12:33:36] Ugly_Old_Goat : How fare do we stretch the rubber band before we let go?
[2017-01-25 12:35:15] Ugly_Old_Goat : H went to 160 premium before we broke, now 25-30 discount
[2017-01-25 12:36:10] Ugly_Old_Goat : Does not mean we can't go to 50-60 discount so always keep some powder dry
[2017-01-25 12:36:42] Ugly_Old_Goat : Meanwhile keep paying me for being long perp
[2017-01-25 12:36:45] Ugly_Old_Goat : I love it
[2017-01-25 12:37:36] Ugly_Old_Goat : Cheapest btc anywhere plus get paid for buying it!
[2017-01-25 12:39:29] Ugly_Old_Goat : I got paid almost $7 per btc in last 24 hours
[2017-01-25 12:40:30] Ugly_Old_Goat : If that holds up March should trade at a 400 discount to get same value!
[2017-01-25 12:41:52] -_- : 0kcoin big dump
[2017-01-25 12:43:53] -_- : a bot added 45 BTC in buy orders but at the very bottom
[2017-01-25 12:44:46] herpinator : I thought bots were disabled there?
[2017-01-25 12:49:17] -_- : not on 0kcoin
[2017-01-25 12:49:37] -_- : you gotta have a china IP address though to trade on there
[2017-01-25 12:49:46] -_- : so very few bots left is my guess
[2017-01-25 12:54:55] VenCap : okcoin about to say goodbye to 6200
[2017-01-25 12:56:23] -_- : watching 0kcoin quarterly order book
[2017-01-25 12:56:27] -_- : 19k buy wall put up
[2017-01-25 12:56:37] -_- : pumping
[2017-01-25 12:57:06] -_- : the order book so empty it can go up very quick
[2017-01-25 12:57:25] -_- : or down since 19k buy wall removed
[2017-01-25 12:58:04] VenCap : only one way btc is gonig for next few months and thats down.
[2017-01-25 12:58:16] -_- : funny how the bots follow 0kcoin quarterly. just watch that chart and trade on here
[2017-01-25 12:59:53] -_- : big 0kcoin dump
[2017-01-25 13:00:04] -_- : rip their order book
[2017-01-25 13:03:44] -_- : $10 from a new low 0kcoin quarterly
[2017-01-25 13:03:48] Crypt5 : not used to mex's system, just came from okcoin but how much btc would I need to buy 50k contracts on 100x?
[2017-01-25 13:04:23] -_- : 0.66
[2017-01-25 13:06:50] Crypt5 : oh shit yeah just seen the cost, thanks haha
[2017-01-25 13:06:55] Apocalyptic : -_-: guess we're going to find out how "deep" the real book is
[2017-01-25 13:14:44] rustiv : the bogdanoffs will dump this to 0
[2017-01-25 13:14:54] herpinator : rustiv: I agree
[2017-01-25 13:15:12] herpinator : bitcoin is under the full control of the bogdanovs
[2017-01-25 13:15:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 300 @ 887.77
[2017-01-25 13:15:35] rustiv : get bogpilled or get rekt
[2017-01-25 13:16:27] herpinator : the bogdanovs are omnipresent, it is futile to resist them
[2017-01-25 13:20:21] zanza : the Mar 31 futures got grabbed by the pussy
[2017-01-25 13:21:44] Yuppie : This is as weird as the $80 premium on the future beginning of Jan
[2017-01-25 13:21:55] MikeHunt : 5x short h17 and 5 lights on ADL :/
[2017-01-25 13:23:17] thomaskikansha : okc 3M getting uber bearish...
[2017-01-25 13:24:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1550 @ 886.38
[2017-01-25 13:24:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 20 @ 885.91
[2017-01-25 13:24:35] REKT : Abandon the ship!
[2017-01-25 13:24:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3000 @ 885.56
[2017-01-25 13:24:35] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3200 @ 885.83
[2017-01-25 13:24:53] MikeHunt : i think this will slide soon
[2017-01-25 13:24:59] MikeHunt : decending triangle
[2017-01-25 13:25:04] MikeHunt : in 1hr
[2017-01-25 13:25:09] MikeHunt : big n juicy
[2017-01-25 13:25:33] -_- : yeah. still got a few buyers still trying to hold it up on 0kcoin
[2017-01-25 13:25:50] -_- : but everyone so close to new lows
[2017-01-25 13:28:04] thomaskikansha : that discount on quarterlies is suspicious for me though...
[2017-01-25 13:30:19] Yuppie : thomaskikansha: agree
[2017-01-25 13:30:22] thomaskikansha : Chinese exchanges losing price-leading position makes manipulation easier in futures imo
[2017-01-25 13:30:52] thomaskikansha : dont know if its right or not but I have that kind of feeling
[2017-01-25 13:31:29] Yuppie : There is no financial asset where borrowing costs are negative
[2017-01-25 13:31:43] Yuppie : except certain gov bonds
[2017-01-25 13:32:22] Yuppie : only commodities with storage costs nd seasonal demand patters can trade in backwardation
[2017-01-25 13:35:46] BitMEX_Wally : Yuppie: The basis on CCY1 vs CCY2 future reflects the borrow cost of CCY2 minus the borrow cost of CCY1, so it can be negative
[2017-01-25 13:37:53] thomaskikansha : so theres a greater demand for borrowing btc than borrowing usd
[2017-01-25 13:38:00] Yuppie : BitMEX_Wally: sure BTC doesn't pay interest...here its a demand supply balancing act to get the swap funding whoch is. Good idea for the exchange
[2017-01-25 13:38:02] thomaskikansha : makes shorting costs
[2017-01-25 13:39:52] thomaskikansha : margin fx trading has the similar thing for charging/receiving swap interest?
[2017-01-25 13:40:02] Yuppie : thomaskikansha: what is happening now is the opposite
[2017-01-25 13:42:05] Yuppie : With ZEC we had the same pattern...but a massive supply overhang
[2017-01-25 13:46:57] Farzad : thomaskikansha: yes it does
[2017-01-25 13:50:27] l3f : Whenever you make a bad trade
[2017-01-25 13:50:33] l3f : just remember rapidtrades was long ZEC
[2017-01-25 13:50:39] l3f : was/is
[2017-01-25 13:52:45] Apocalyptic : at 3
[2017-01-25 14:08:30] enki0182 : l3f: you and rapidtrades are great dudes.. good people... appreciate your comments always.
[2017-01-25 14:18:39] Ahhere : Guys are we dumping or not. Getting bored tbh
[2017-01-25 14:19:29] VenCap : we are dumping sideways.....
[2017-01-25 14:20:59] DrNiki : it will get dumped and owned, it will just take time
[2017-01-25 14:23:24] Ahhere : VenCap: @DrNiki thanks you guise
[2017-01-25 14:23:34] enki0182 : DrNiki: i agree - te bottom should be about 820 - but only because volumes so low
[2017-01-25 14:23:58] Ahhere : enki0182: thx
[2017-01-25 14:24:27] VenCap : DrNiki thanks me for funding?
[2017-01-25 14:24:37] herpinator : its harder to dump for the chinese because they can't short so easily, wouldn't you agree that this effects the market?
[2017-01-25 14:25:54] enki0182 : Ahhere: welcome. but expect RISE - big rise from jan 28th onward... after jan 28th - new chinese year means the capitol control for chindawg will be reset and it will take about 3-4 days to wire money(yuan) to exchanges - so about early feb expect it to hit a huge bull market - but whales and illegal money hodlers are now tryignto "cash out"...
[2017-01-25 14:26:34] enki0182 : so until then - expect Dumps galore
[2017-01-25 14:27:06] -_- : not much for sale on 0kcoin this low
[2017-01-25 14:27:12] enki0182 : btw i am neither long or short...
[2017-01-25 14:28:11] enki0182 : im waiting
[2017-01-25 14:30:26] VenCap : for Christmas?
[2017-01-25 14:31:53] enki0182 : http://bitcoinist.com/pboc-focus-exchanges-volumes-plummet/
[2017-01-25 14:32:13] rapidtrades : oh look we're back in the 88x
[2017-01-25 14:32:18] rapidtrades : i wonder what happens next
[2017-01-25 14:32:27] -_- : i dont even know what 0kcoin quarterly is following any more. 0kcoin.cn pumps $7 and quarterly doesnt move
[2017-01-25 14:32:27] enki0182 : liq
[2017-01-25 14:32:43] rapidtrades : -_-: it follows itself
[2017-01-25 14:33:08] rapidtrades : there's some scam going on here with the swap
[2017-01-25 14:33:18] rapidtrades : it can't keep raping shorts with 0.2%
[2017-01-25 14:33:30] rapidtrades : some dirty manipulation
[2017-01-25 14:33:31] -_- : it's pay back for when it raped the longs nonstop
[2017-01-25 14:33:39] rapidtrades : it was never this bad
[2017-01-25 14:33:48] rapidtrades : and longs benefited from upmove
[2017-01-25 14:33:52] rapidtrades : WHERE'S THE DOWNMOVE
[2017-01-25 14:33:55] rapidtrades : WHERE IS IT
[2017-01-25 14:34:10] rapidtrades : some jewconspiracy is afoot here
[2017-01-25 14:34:13] enki0182 : rapidtrades: https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitfinex/btcusd
[2017-01-25 14:34:27] enki0182 : <^ thats where it is
[2017-01-25 14:34:41] enki0182 : a whole exchange of seasoned traders saying - DOWN
[2017-01-25 14:34:59] -_- : price is resting on support it seems
[2017-01-25 14:35:06] -_- : aka launchpad
[2017-01-25 14:35:18] enki0182 : -_-: aka bulltrap
[2017-01-25 14:35:29] enki0182 : good luck everyone
[2017-01-25 14:37:06] enki0182 : primary trend - sometimes thats all you need
[2017-01-25 14:37:17] enki0182 : zoom out ot 3m or 1 hr... see it
[2017-01-25 14:37:42] enki0182 : on jan 28th it may reverse... and i hope rapidtrades and i make coin like hongkong style..
[2017-01-25 14:40:01] VenCap : Where are the Bitcoin Futures here?
[2017-01-25 14:40:05] VenCap : they have no fees?
[2017-01-25 14:40:22] BitMEX_Wally : VenCap: The futures have no funding rates
[2017-01-25 14:40:28] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/XBTH17
[2017-01-25 14:40:36] VenCap : sunds great!
[2017-01-25 14:40:49] BitMEX_Wally : But they trade at a premium or discount, so it's the same thing just fixed up front
[2017-01-25 14:41:02] VenCap : ahah... thank you wally
[2017-01-25 14:41:37] VenCap : lets say i am bear. i think bitcoin is on slow painful death till 2018. where is the best area here to short it?
[2017-01-25 14:43:31] BitMEX_Wally : You can short XBTH17 and XBCH17
[2017-01-25 14:43:49] BitMEX_Wally : But they expire in March, so you would have to roll
[2017-01-25 14:44:00] VenCap : thats better than the section i am now that charges funding?
[2017-01-25 14:44:05] BitMEX_Wally : You could short XBTUSD and just wait for the funding rate to become positive
[2017-01-25 14:44:16] VenCap : ?
[2017-01-25 14:44:20] enki0182 : VenCap: your wrong - longterm is UP..... short ter, ( 3days is is up)
[2017-01-25 14:44:23] VenCap : can that happen?
[2017-01-25 14:44:36] cookielito : the funding rate seems rather bearish
[2017-01-25 14:44:38] VenCap : enki0182: in 3 days you think it will rise?
[2017-01-25 14:44:42] cookielito : good for me because im long
[2017-01-25 14:44:44] enki0182 : sorry - 3d is DOWN - after jan 28th - expect up...
[2017-01-25 14:44:45] BitMEX_Wally : On average the funding rate is positive, looking at the history.
[2017-01-25 14:44:54] BitMEX_Wally : https://www.bitmex.com/app/fundingHistory
[2017-01-25 14:45:07] VenCap : well for me 3btc in the last 24hrs i have paid... not so positive. but i understand, it is what it is. thats fine
[2017-01-25 14:45:15] sleger : yes but bitcoin went up during that same period, right ? @BitMEX_Wally
[2017-01-25 14:45:28] VenCap : the "Catch" is.. i now need to make more profits, therefore i need my short open longer
[2017-01-25 14:45:35] enki0182 : listen to wally - hodl coins now in futures - if you were otherwise gunna go 1x long... lol.
[2017-01-25 14:45:48] enki0182 : awesome ass discount
[2017-01-25 14:45:54] BitMEX_Wally : sleger: Yep, why else would people pay 1% a day to go long unless they thought it was going up? :)
[2017-01-25 14:45:54] VenCap : if it stayed like this, i would never be able to close, then one day, big spike i get liquidated and piles from sitted here for days on end for nothing :P
[2017-01-25 14:46:13] VenCap : i go x25 short
[2017-01-25 14:46:54] sleger : BitMEX_Wally: what I was saying is that if it stalls or goes down we may not expect it to be on average positive like it has been on this short history
[2017-01-25 14:47:28] enki0182 : VenCap: better than big short and gettin pwned... (which is less likely)...
[2017-01-25 14:48:01] cookielito : enki0182: likely as hell
[2017-01-25 14:48:02] VenCap : lols! funny you should mention pwned
[2017-01-25 14:48:09] VenCap : that was my lastest addition to my crypto art colelction
[2017-01-25 14:48:21] enki0182 : yes - i learn lessons THE HARD WAY ONCE ONLY
[2017-01-25 14:48:27] VenCap : http://cryptoart.com/product/pwned/
[2017-01-25 14:48:37] VenCap : once only, takes me a few times lol
[2017-01-25 14:49:03] enki0182 : wtf is that a sponsored link ft.
[2017-01-25 14:49:11] enki0182 : goodnight vencap
[2017-01-25 14:50:04] FreeBitcoins : VenCap: nice, I was looking at that one too! Do you have all the others?
[2017-01-25 14:50:26] VenCap : No @enki0182 if the most well known place to buy artwork, that also doubles as paper wallets.
[2017-01-25 14:50:48] VenCap : FreeBitcoins: yes i have the USA girl one. And BOTH "the halving" versions. so 4 in total
[2017-01-25 14:51:04] VenCap : my PWNED is number 1 of 45
[2017-01-25 14:51:06] VenCap : :O)
[2017-01-25 14:51:28] VenCap : the guy who runs the company is first class. Really top notch customer service.
[2017-01-25 14:51:38] VenCap : Highly recmend cryptoart. and thats my simpel review
[2017-01-25 14:52:11] FreeBitcoins : VenCap: thats awesome. I have 3 of the large ones: Chinese girl, See what tomorrow brings and "the Patriot"
[2017-01-25 14:52:26] FreeBitcoins : just a wonder to look at
[2017-01-25 14:52:36] VenCap : whoa. the large are expensive, i have mediums.
[2017-01-25 14:52:38] FreeBitcoins : they are just about sold out now
[2017-01-25 14:52:43] VenCap : the partriot, thats the one have also
[2017-01-25 14:53:24] FreeBitcoins : I framed them and they are just insane to look at
[2017-01-25 14:53:24] VenCap : You should get the Halfivng one also, very collectible as it displays a clear point of history, important part of Bitcoins life.
[2017-01-25 14:53:35] FreeBitcoins : yeah I want to get them all
[2017-01-25 14:53:35] VenCap : Version 2 is better i think. Soviet Russian style, super cool
[2017-01-25 14:53:45] VenCap : do you lvie in the USA?
[2017-01-25 14:54:01] VenCap : there are really ncie frames avilable . but i am in europe so cant buy tem, too expensive shippin
[2017-01-25 14:54:02] FreeBitcoins : patriot and chinese girl are just amazing
[2017-01-25 14:54:10] VenCap : agreed, really great details
[2017-01-25 14:55:02] FreeBitcoins : VenCap: did you say you paid 3btc in funding past 24hrs?
[2017-01-25 14:56:05] VenCap : yeah
[2017-01-25 14:56:11] VenCap : i have a few contracts
[2017-01-25 14:56:39] FreeBitcoins : VenCap: lol and you complain the big art is expensive
[2017-01-25 14:57:09] VenCap : true.. lols.
[2017-01-25 14:57:19] yungyang : Is not smart invest in mechanics you no understand
[2017-01-25 14:57:41] VenCap : http://cryptoart.com/product/bitcoin-the-halving-ii-moon-or-bomb/
[2017-01-25 14:57:56] VenCap : $550 not bad and to be fair, the owner will "knock off" some of the price.
[2017-01-25 14:58:20] VenCap : i understand how it works. i win or i loose.
[2017-01-25 14:58:22] enki0182 : yungyang: ^Ditto @VenCap - wait until the chiplebs come in...
[2017-01-25 14:58:37] VenCap : Chi plebs ?
[2017-01-25 14:58:40] VenCap : who are they?
[2017-01-25 14:58:47] enki0182 : jan 28th onward
[2017-01-25 14:58:55] enki0182 : return to bull
[2017-01-25 14:59:11] yungyang : post new year
[2017-01-25 14:59:15] FreeBitcoins : VenCap: My 3 pieces are for sale under market if your looking for those works. I have the best/ second best numbers too ;)
[2017-01-25 14:59:49] enki0182 : FreeBitcoins: pm me about those 0 if you can...
[2017-01-25 14:59:53] VenCap : whoa, why you sell them?
[2017-01-25 14:59:58] cookielito : too bad for all you shorties
[2017-01-25 15:00:07] FreeBitcoins : I have the 10s
[2017-01-25 15:00:13] cookielito : been acruing interest for quite some time now
[2017-01-25 15:00:42] VenCap : i have 1of45. 2of45 8of45 and 9of45
[2017-01-25 15:00:44] FreeBitcoins : VenCap: throwing money into business. I plan to buy them all back and complete the set when im done
[2017-01-25 15:00:46] VenCap : so happy to have 1 no.1
[2017-01-25 15:00:56] Papou : guys
[2017-01-25 15:01:00] VenCap : there is a Market here?
[2017-01-25 15:01:00] Papou : ok coin aint even short yet
[2017-01-25 15:01:24] FreeBitcoins : VenCap: 1s are always sweet
[2017-01-25 15:01:36] VenCap : very happy/lucky to get it.
[2017-01-25 15:01:45] FreeBitcoins : enki0182: ? 0s?
[2017-01-25 15:01:55] FreeBitcoins : VenCap: what one is it?
[2017-01-25 15:02:20] enki0182 : soz - 3s
[2017-01-25 15:02:32] enki0182 : can you even PM on bitmex?
[2017-01-25 15:02:38] VenCap : the PWNED is 1of45 size medium
[2017-01-25 15:02:42] FreeBitcoins : enki0182: ive got the 10/35 in the large
[2017-01-25 15:03:14] enki0182 : sorry msn - i know my shi... but that means nothing to me
[2017-01-25 15:03:24] enki0182 : 1035
[2017-01-25 15:03:53] FreeBitcoins : was going to sell them at a decent discount too. I got them back in 2014 before they took off