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[2017-01-24 16:07:22] VenCap : has okcoin broken.. its mexican stand off
[2017-01-24 16:07:41] johndoe : looks like bitmex isn't even following hu0bi or ok-coin anymore on USD
[2017-01-24 16:07:50] johndoe : on swap i mean
[2017-01-24 16:08:08] VenCap : Bots have taken over.
[2017-01-24 16:10:46] johndoe : exchanges aren't even tracking each other :( half are moving up and half trending down on 5m charts
[2017-01-24 16:11:48] herpinator : this is weird
[2017-01-24 16:13:43] abbey : nice
[2017-01-24 16:14:55] VenCap : this is odd.. like feels liek a big trap odd
[2017-01-24 16:15:13] Teddy76 : we need a new leader
[2017-01-24 16:15:28] VenCap : Darth Vader would be useful
[2017-01-24 16:15:34] MikeHunt : from what i can see
[2017-01-24 16:15:41] abbey : epic rekts incoming boys
[2017-01-24 16:15:41] MikeHunt : in 2013 when they reintroduced fees
[2017-01-24 16:15:45] VenCap : ok. going out. sod it.
[2017-01-24 16:15:46] MikeHunt : it took a while to set in
[2017-01-24 16:15:51] VenCap : abbey: if you long :P
[2017-01-24 16:17:05] abbey : i never rekt
[2017-01-24 16:17:19] -_- : Pumping
[2017-01-24 16:17:46] MikeHunt : 2013... http://i.imgur.com/ghRlCye.png
[2017-01-24 16:18:04] -_- : Xbth17 randomly pumping a lot
[2017-01-24 16:18:36] VenCap : i am shorting this at 920 with everything i have
[2017-01-24 16:19:02] bingbongfly : finally
[2017-01-24 16:19:04] bingbongfly : let me out of my long
[2017-01-24 16:19:04] abbey : weeeeee
[2017-01-24 16:19:05] bingbongfly : i'm dying
[2017-01-24 16:19:10] bingbongfly : pls XBTH
[2017-01-24 16:19:19] -_- : Lol then xbth17 randomly drops $5 so unpredictable
[2017-01-24 16:19:32] bingbongfly : -_-: not really, I wanted to get out of my long
[2017-01-24 16:19:44] bingbongfly : -_-: probably lots of underwater longs
[2017-01-24 16:19:55] bingbongfly : which means it's just chop chop city
[2017-01-24 16:19:59] MikeHunt : some guy here is still stuck at 1100 lol
[2017-01-24 16:20:06] -_- : I shorted 888 closed at 895 and a second later it's at 890. Wat
[2017-01-24 16:20:09] MikeHunt : if it falls bellow ~600 hes fucked
[2017-01-24 16:20:24] bingbongfly : MikeHunt: oh yeah
[2017-01-24 16:24:24] abbey : the bull is strong
[2017-01-24 16:25:51] abbey : don't fight back, just let it go, less pain
[2017-01-24 16:27:29] abbey : forget about those audi dreams, reality check
[2017-01-24 16:30:57] airitout : abbey: lol
[2017-01-24 16:33:01] Papou : bull has no juice
[2017-01-24 16:33:10] Papou : no more money to prop this up
[2017-01-24 16:33:32] Papou : on the way to hong kong boys to watch the fireworks with bobby lee
[2017-01-24 16:33:44] abbey : just look at it go
[2017-01-24 16:33:54] Papou : ok coin #1 holder is all long, hes been buying it all up thinking bitcoin moons
[2017-01-24 16:33:58] Papou : hes about to get liquidated
[2017-01-24 16:34:04] Papou : 40,000 btc market sell
[2017-01-24 16:35:08] KyllingLolsson : Bitcoin is not juiced up ryt now
[2017-01-24 16:37:16] bingbongfly : Papou: no he is short and long
[2017-01-24 16:38:17] bingbongfly : ok coin #1 holder is most probably both short and long, but mostly short I think. He has been getting squeezed lately, we'll see what happens
[2017-01-24 16:40:49] Papou : lol no
[2017-01-24 16:40:58] Papou : also #2 and 3 reduced positons by a lot
[2017-01-24 16:41:03] airitout : Papou: where do you get this info?
[2017-01-24 16:41:08] herpinator : the bogdanovs are in charge
[2017-01-24 16:41:12] Papou : insiders
[2017-01-24 16:41:19] Papou : everyone thought bitcoin will moon they said :(
[2017-01-24 16:41:33] abbey : lol, papou indicator bullish as f*ck
[2017-01-24 16:41:53] Papou : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-19/chinese-investors-exit-bitcoin-flood-gold-etfs
[2017-01-24 16:41:54] airitout : Papou: how do you know that someone in okcoin is 40k long?
[2017-01-24 16:42:07] Papou : airitout who do u think pumped the price
[2017-01-24 16:42:15] Papou : normal average joes?
[2017-01-24 16:42:32] airitout : just answer the question kid
[2017-01-24 16:42:44] Papou : i have info dont worry
[2017-01-24 16:42:47] Papou : but also
[2017-01-24 16:42:48] Papou : https://www.okcoin.com/future/futureTop.do?type=1&symbol=0
[2017-01-24 16:42:52] airitout : lol
[2017-01-24 16:42:58] Papou : LOL shorts not even open yet
[2017-01-24 16:43:08] Papou : what u think happens when 50%+ go short from 30%
[2017-01-24 16:43:10] Papou : game over
[2017-01-24 16:43:42] airitout : papou gekko. has all the inside information
[2017-01-24 16:44:09] -_- : 6275 and 6280 and then 6298 are the only spots with walls on 0kcoin
[2017-01-24 16:45:20] Rado : Poopoo the game is never over
[2017-01-24 16:45:23] thomaskikansha : swap trading above index :o
[2017-01-24 16:47:07] bingbongfly : shorts starting to sweat, even a premium on swap lol
[2017-01-24 16:47:23] bingbongfly : wish I didnt close half my long so soon, poor trading this week
[2017-01-24 16:52:10] -_- : 0kcoin can be at 6300 in a second
[2017-01-24 16:52:54] -_- : dont know why MM is pushing xbth17 down still
[2017-01-24 16:53:45] Rado : -_-: MM is not pushing anything
[2017-01-24 16:53:50] Rado : if you understand what an MM is
[2017-01-24 16:54:03] -_- : see 6299
[2017-01-24 16:54:19] -_- : the market maker with his 15k walls were at 895 and then a minute later 891
[2017-01-24 16:54:23] -_- : and price is going up everywhere else
[2017-01-24 16:55:05] -_- : oh well. everything is out of wack. dont even know why i'm trying to trade this
[2017-01-24 16:56:10] herpinator : I feel the same with no clear market leader
[2017-01-24 16:56:54] MikeHunt : you guys have played rome total war? what happens wen ur leader dies in battle?
[2017-01-24 16:57:56] Tetsuo : he´s dead?
[2017-01-24 16:58:05] knikky : RUN AWAY
[2017-01-24 16:58:15] Noobz : you get his girl?
[2017-01-24 16:58:30] MikeHunt : knikky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FPELc1wEvk
[2017-01-24 16:58:33] knikky : MikeHunt: didn't quite tap 950 like you said but the multi-day prediction so far has been pretty good
[2017-01-24 16:58:44] johndoe : so strange that CNY exchanges are not leading bitmex price. Gotta rethink my whole strategy
[2017-01-24 16:59:06] MikeHunt : knikky: well china kinda ruined that :/
[2017-01-24 16:59:33] johndoe : does anyone have link to current kaiko index that bitmex uses? it still just about half stamp, half ok-coin?
[2017-01-24 16:59:46] airitout : Rado, i haven't familiarize myself with trading bots. I saw that you are using. iam looking for one in the forex market, do you have any advice where to look or start?
[2017-01-24 16:59:53] knikky : yeah but it was within a few dollars and if this support breaks it's crashing pretty hard it seems
[2017-01-24 17:00:11] MikeHunt : airitout: github
[2017-01-24 17:00:13] Tetsuo : johndoe: quarterlys in here mostly follow the movement of okc quarterlys
[2017-01-24 17:00:46] MikeHunt : only western exchange with no fees now is coinfloor iirc
[2017-01-24 17:00:49] johndoe : Tetsuo: ok that makes sense, but i was mostly refering to the swap
[2017-01-24 17:03:07] MikeHunt : swap mark is unnervingly flat
[2017-01-24 17:21:55] -_- : 6240 to 6318 is empty on 0kcoin order book lolol
[2017-01-24 17:22:44] -_- : it seems just 1 trader is trying to get in or close out a short. once they are done then who knows what'll happen
[2017-01-24 17:29:39] -_- : ah 99 btc buy wall put up. 62 btc left of it now
[2017-01-24 17:29:40] -_- : 51
[2017-01-24 17:29:45] -_- : 45. sell sell sell
[2017-01-24 17:37:23] abbey : nom nom nom
[2017-01-24 17:48:25] Tetsuo : https://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/tradespm/24h?c=e&r=hour&t=ae byebye china dominance
[2017-01-24 17:49:25] VenCap : abbey: wanna share that Chocolate ?
[2017-01-24 17:49:57] airitout : Tetsuo: what time graph you checking?/
[2017-01-24 17:50:39] Tetsuo : 24h, so that u can clearly see the no fees/fees effect kickin in
[2017-01-24 17:51:03] airitout : china has 90% @ 24
[2017-01-24 17:51:54] Tetsuo : what? west combined has >50% now according to the graph?
[2017-01-24 17:53:10] airitout : choose all currencies and youll see that okcoin alone has 84%
[2017-01-24 17:53:17] herpinator : that site needs to list bitmex :p
[2017-01-24 17:53:22] Tetsuo : http://www.pic-upload.de/view-32549177/volume.jpg.html
[2017-01-24 17:53:27] abbey : VenCap: :) nope, i think this is mine
[2017-01-24 17:53:36] Tetsuo : this graph is with all currencies?
[2017-01-24 17:54:06] VenCap : Sharing is Caring :O)
[2017-01-24 17:54:56] abbey : I know, you can take the rest
[2017-01-24 17:55:31] airitout : Tetsuo: ok coin has 89% at yours as well.. what are you talkbout the west having 30?
[2017-01-24 17:55:57] Tetsuo : move your mouse at the x-axis to the point at 17:00
[2017-01-24 17:56:45] wurstgelee : okcoin doing almost 2 btc vol/min atm
[2017-01-24 17:56:46] wurstgelee : wow
[2017-01-24 17:56:48] wurstgelee : 8)
[2017-01-24 17:56:57] Papou : i think chinese are planning an exit strategy
[2017-01-24 17:56:58] Tetsuo : that´s how market leaders roll
[2017-01-24 17:57:02] Papou : because they know they cant all sell at once now
[2017-01-24 17:57:25] wurstgelee : chinese dont plan to exit. wyhy would they?
[2017-01-24 17:57:28] wurstgelee : *why
[2017-01-24 17:57:35] airitout : its 2am in china ofcourse volume is low now at their exchanges
[2017-01-24 17:57:40] Tetsuo : Papou is retarded, that´s all
[2017-01-24 17:57:49] wurstgelee : airitout: no. bots are turned off and fees were introduced
[2017-01-24 17:57:50] wurstgelee : thats y
[2017-01-24 17:58:58] Tetsuo : okc´s own bot is sittin in the corner and cryin
[2017-01-24 17:59:02] VenCap : nom nom... red candle chocolate my favourite :O)
[2017-01-24 17:59:13] VenCap : right off to watch Series. Later all. Be Lucky.
[2017-01-24 17:59:17] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: probably binge drinking with willy
[2017-01-24 17:59:17] Noobz : Tetsuo: he is losing his religion
[2017-01-24 17:59:26] Tetsuo : wurstgelee: lol
[2017-01-24 17:59:28] VenCap : Donteat that Green Candle choclolate! its posion.
[2017-01-24 18:00:10] VenCap : Papou: Chinese Exit strategy no.24
[2017-01-24 18:01:01] wurstgelee : i like how okc makes 20 CNY moves on 1 btc volume now
[2017-01-24 18:01:02] wurstgelee : :p
[2017-01-24 18:01:13] wurstgelee : thats almost as bad as bitstamp...
[2017-01-24 18:02:30] johndoe : hopefully some of the exchanges will consolidate or something. this is kinda embarrassing.
[2017-01-24 18:08:59] airitout : this is boring
[2017-01-24 18:10:00] -_- : and will be for a while
[2017-01-24 18:10:09] -_- : gotta eat up that supply then we go up
[2017-01-24 18:10:47] charlyko : pump incoming
[2017-01-24 18:13:01] wurstgelee : charlyko: curiosity makes me ask this: y?
[2017-01-24 18:14:19] johndoe : swap sure is holding strong
[2017-01-24 18:14:40] wurstgelee : swap is holding nothing, its following spot ;)
[2017-01-24 18:15:27] wurstgelee : but nothing what we do here has any influence on the spot price of btc.
[2017-01-24 18:15:32] wurstgelee : one way only
[2017-01-24 18:15:56] Tetsuo : if this continues for more than a week than i assume the west might take the lead for a while
[2017-01-24 18:16:31] Tetsuo : okkoin is nothing more than a clown car right now
[2017-01-24 18:16:32] wurstgelee : yeah, probably
[2017-01-24 18:16:45] wurstgelee : that. or boredom and altsareback
[2017-01-24 18:17:20] Tetsuo : would also be fine for me
[2017-01-24 18:17:30] wurstgelee : yep,, has been a while
[2017-01-24 18:17:41] wurstgelee : maybe fab to march, btc again starting april
[2017-01-24 18:17:44] wurstgelee : that would be niuce
[2017-01-24 18:17:48] wurstgelee : nice
[2017-01-24 18:19:06] johndoe : amazing. PBoC kills bitcoin by mandating boredom :)
[2017-01-24 18:19:25] herpinator : no fun allowed
[2017-01-24 18:19:30] herpinator : ;_;
[2017-01-24 18:20:20] Tetsuo : 40cny move within 1 second... and no one cares
[2017-01-24 18:20:40] Tetsuo : 19:20:03 6260.1 0.109 19:20:02 6299.1 0.93
[2017-01-24 18:20:47] MikeHunt : i expect this will slowly decline until a whale gives up patience and dumps
[2017-01-24 18:20:54] -_- : what are you suppose to do
[2017-01-24 18:21:24] -_- : quarterly here isnt going to move $7 every other second
[2017-01-24 18:21:36] johndoe : 0.2% is a really high fee. Especially compared to 0%...
[2017-01-24 18:21:42] johndoe : should've went with 0.1
[2017-01-24 18:22:07] -_- : yeah. people will be paying hundreds or thousands of dollars in fees in china
[2017-01-24 18:22:15] -_- : to pump or dump the price
[2017-01-24 18:22:55] johndoe : well, keep in mind that it will be a lot easier to pump or dump price, since there is such low liquidity - at least in the short-term
[2017-01-24 18:23:29] -_- : true. remove orders and pump or dump. but will other exchanges follow
[2017-01-24 18:23:32] johndoe : it would be great if USD exchanges start dominating again.
[2017-01-24 18:24:14] -_- : china still $7-$10 ahead of other exchanges
[2017-01-24 18:24:25] Tetsuo : no
[2017-01-24 18:25:41] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: that 40 cny move in a sec happened on less than 10 btc
[2017-01-24 18:25:45] wurstgelee : thats how bad it is atm ;)
[2017-01-24 18:25:55] charlyko : I hace choyna
[2017-01-24 18:25:59] charlyko : hate*
[2017-01-24 18:26:01] MikeHunt : the new mean has shifted downwards so that should put negative pressure on the price
[2017-01-24 18:26:45] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: lots of potential black swan events currently.
[2017-01-24 18:27:09] wurstgelee : turmp every day for the next 4 years. france and germany elections. uk/brexit. ....
[2017-01-24 18:27:16] wurstgelee : plus the usual stock crash scenario
[2017-01-24 18:28:01] wurstgelee : any of those would give btc a big push. so even short is risky imo
[2017-01-24 18:28:02] MikeHunt : yup, also what should be good for bitcoin can be bad, bank failures can affect exchanges
[2017-01-24 18:28:32] wurstgelee : thats rather unlikely
[2017-01-24 18:28:38] wurstgelee : but yes
[2017-01-24 18:37:50] cz9emcu : you might see btc go down initially during a GFC as people get margin calls elsewhere. Then btc would decouple and head higher as it doesn't have counterparty risk (except exchange wallets)
[2017-01-24 18:39:19] cz9emcu : Personally, I'd let my other accounts burn before I sell my btc
[2017-01-24 18:39:54] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: i checked the bank behind bitfinex, not very stable
[2017-01-24 18:40:05] MikeHunt : bitstamps bank is linked to unicredito
[2017-01-24 18:47:05] airitout : all open short positions will be charged for funding rates @9PM GMT+1, if you close position before that you wont be charged
[2017-01-24 18:47:19] airitout : if you have a long position you will get paid
[2017-01-24 18:50:21] wurstgelee : so?
[2017-01-24 18:52:02] airitout : wurstgelee: wont hurt your 500 trade order.. only for big boys
[2017-01-24 18:52:47] airitout : jk (k) :)
[2017-01-24 18:53:02] MikeHunt : getting raped $15 evry 8 hrs aint cool
[2017-01-24 18:53:08] Derreck : $15 discount WTF!
[2017-01-24 18:53:27] wurstgelee : not enough
[2017-01-24 18:53:34] wurstgelee : hina is >10$ lower
[2017-01-24 18:53:35] airitout : 250 at my end
[2017-01-24 18:53:37] wurstgelee : *c
[2017-01-24 18:54:10] Derreck : also Chinese volume is really small!
[2017-01-24 18:54:12] Noobz : @MikeHunt: @Derreck how did you plan saying that together?
[2017-01-24 18:56:21] Derreck : 0kcoin volume is like back to Sep 2015
[2017-01-24 18:58:20] MikeHunt : Noobz: telepathy
[2017-01-24 18:59:55] Noobz : lol
[2017-01-24 19:07:24] johndoe : is there an easy way to download historical .csv data for hourly bars of bitmex data, without using scripts?
[2017-01-24 19:08:03] Shaman : https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2017-01-24 19:09:11] johndoe : thx, but i mean hourly OHLC data for the btc swap or futures contract
[2017-01-24 19:09:52] Shaman : im guessing you would probably have to sort that out yourself, but could probably do it in a spreadsheet somehow
[2017-01-24 19:10:12] BitMEX_Sam : Go to https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/Trade/Trade_getBucketed and build your request
[2017-01-24 19:10:24] BitMEX_Sam : Then copy/paste the request and add `&_format=csv` to the end of it
[2017-01-24 19:11:07] johndoe : BitMEX_Sam: thanks man, appreciate it
[2017-01-24 19:18:59] bingbongfly : Hello, do anyone have any experience with unconfirmed deposits? I had too low of a fee by accident
[2017-01-24 19:19:30] bingbongfly : It's a deposit to this site, but my auto-fee on my new wallet was very low so it hasn't been confirmed for many hours
[2017-01-24 19:19:44] bingbongfly : will I get the chance to resend the transacttion?
[2017-01-24 19:21:40] Farzad : bingbongfly: I think you should wait for it to be confirmed
[2017-01-24 19:21:54] Farzad : or thrown out of mempool and then resend it
[2017-01-24 19:22:29] bingbongfly : Farzad: alright, yea I read some about it. Do you have any idea how long it will take give or take? Desperate for some more margin here hehe
[2017-01-24 19:22:51] Farzad : well it depends on the fee u paid
[2017-01-24 19:22:52] bingbongfly : to get thrown out
[2017-01-24 19:22:56] Farzad : may take up to 1 week !
[2017-01-24 19:22:57] bingbongfly : It's low, basically minimum
[2017-01-24 19:23:03] bingbongfly : alright.. thanks!
[2017-01-24 19:23:35] bingbongfly : There are reasons why BTC has a long way to go for mainstream adoption :/
[2017-01-24 19:23:37] Farzad : omg this backlog situation is only getting worse !
[2017-01-24 19:23:43] bingbongfly : yup
[2017-01-24 19:24:01] Farzad : 71K unconfirmed transactions now !
[2017-01-24 19:24:12] bingbongfly : wut? It was 60 about an hour ago
[2017-01-24 19:24:14] bingbongfly : last I checked
[2017-01-24 19:24:21] Farzad : check now, 71K
[2017-01-24 19:24:26] Farzad : it is getting worse
[2017-01-24 19:24:45] Farzad : hopefully it convinces miners to increase block size
[2017-01-24 19:25:36] Noobz : bingbongfly: next time, if you didn't already do check the needed fee here https://bitcoinfees.21.co/
[2017-01-24 19:26:05] bingbongfly : Noobz: thanks
[2017-01-24 19:28:42] bingbongfly : wait,
[2017-01-24 19:28:55] bingbongfly : according to this, my transaction shouldn't be a problem right?? I payed 0.00024970 btc
[2017-01-24 19:29:25] Noobz : check the tx on tradeblock you can see the sat/b
[2017-01-24 19:30:15] bingbongfly : wut?
[2017-01-24 19:30:58] Noobz : how many kb was your tx? depends on how many addresses used etc.
[2017-01-24 19:31:29] bingbongfly : https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/tx/bc987dfc2e3dfa9a422634d1d5d9380d00d21b44b0f4adc47220f5ef1520a3a9
[2017-01-24 19:31:32] bingbongfly : it's this transaction
[2017-01-24 19:32:03] bingbongfly : guess it should confirm in a couple of hours
[2017-01-24 19:32:15] Noobz : 132 sats per b yeah that should be fast
[2017-01-24 19:32:34] bingbongfly : I'm used to quicker, 3 hours is pretty much by how I use to set my fees
[2017-01-24 19:32:40] bingbongfly : thanks for your help
[2017-01-24 19:32:42] Noobz : but wait...
[2017-01-24 19:32:48] bingbongfly : ?! :S
[2017-01-24 19:33:07] Noobz : you see that incoming coin? that is unconfirmed
[2017-01-24 19:33:15] Noobz : with 26 sat/b
[2017-01-24 19:33:18] bingbongfly : Aha.. I see
[2017-01-24 19:33:42] bingbongfly : Weird
[2017-01-24 19:33:52] bingbongfly : So I just bought a new ledger nano S
[2017-01-24 19:33:59] bingbongfly : And sent a BTC to it a couple days ago
[2017-01-24 19:34:04] bingbongfly : it said it was confirmed on the app
[2017-01-24 19:34:11] bingbongfly : but I didnt bother to check the actual transaction
[2017-01-24 19:35:12] Noobz : yeah the unconfirmed tx is from jan 23rd, yesterday
[2017-01-24 19:35:50] Noobz : hope that your new tx pushes it through (Child pays for parent)
[2017-01-24 19:36:42] bingbongfly : Ah okey I see now
[2017-01-24 19:36:55] bingbongfly : but, if it doesn't, will it be send back to my original wallet?
[2017-01-24 19:37:26] bingbongfly : or is it stuck in limbo?! :S
[2017-01-24 19:37:45] Noobz : yeah if it is thrown out it is like it is never send
[2017-01-24 19:38:03] Noobz : just wait for the backlog it will be ok, slowly though
[2017-01-24 19:38:45] bingbongfly : okey, thanks. Yeah I guess I can wait, just a little worried when transactions go missing! I havn't wrapped my head around everything yet
[2017-01-24 19:38:48] bingbongfly : but I learned a lot from this
[2017-01-24 19:40:38] MikeHunt : 1hr RSI descending triangle?
[2017-01-24 19:42:36] MikeHunt : china volume down 60%
[2017-01-24 19:43:38] johndoe : i think its more than 60%
[2017-01-24 19:43:51] johndoe : https://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/volume/6h?c=e&r=hour&t=bar
[2017-01-24 19:44:48] MikeHunt : johndoe: im just going by https://exchangewar.info/
[2017-01-24 19:45:04] MikeHunt : was ~285k, down to 115k
[2017-01-24 19:45:28] MikeHunt : wouldnt be suprised if by 4am today it drops even further
[2017-01-24 19:45:34] MikeHunt : tomorrow*
[2017-01-24 19:45:40] johndoe : btcc/ok-coin/hu0bi went from 90% of global volume to about 30% roughly
[2017-01-24 19:46:08] MikeHunt : i think coindesk said real volume was between 50-85%
[2017-01-24 19:46:48] MikeHunt : that was before the big raping from drop at 8888 iirc thou
[2017-01-24 19:48:35] -_- : no one wants to move the price
[2017-01-24 19:48:44] -_- : nor make a splash in an altcoin
[2017-01-24 19:50:20] MikeHunt : -_-: looks like its slowly going down
[2017-01-24 19:50:37] MikeHunt : if it completes descending triangle then i think we'll see a move
[2017-01-24 19:52:26] -_- : gotta wait for china to wake up.
[2017-01-24 19:57:56] Derreck : 0kcoin is 6300, bitmex is still 6210
[2017-01-24 19:58:10] narnarfromnarnia : funding in 2min
[2017-01-24 19:58:13] narnarfromnarnia : then what happens?
[2017-01-24 19:58:32] MikeHunt : get raped $15
[2017-01-24 19:58:40] narnarfromnarnia : MikeHunt: from quick dump?
[2017-01-24 19:58:43] narnarfromnarnia : or what
[2017-01-24 19:58:52] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: i think it will be a long slow decline
[2017-01-24 19:58:55] narnarfromnarnia : what will i get with a 20btc
[2017-01-24 19:58:59] narnarfromnarnia : holding i wonder
[2017-01-24 19:59:02] narnarfromnarnia : long
[2017-01-24 19:59:04] MikeHunt : maybe a few moves on major pattern completitions
[2017-01-24 19:59:13] Noobz : a headache
[2017-01-24 19:59:18] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: 0.0056
[2017-01-24 19:59:34] MikeHunt : $50.62
[2017-01-24 20:00:38] MikeHunt : im a dumbass, i should have just gone stamp earlier
[2017-01-24 20:00:47] MikeHunt : or krapen
[2017-01-24 20:02:04] airitout : MikeHunt: i told you to go long
[2017-01-24 20:02:20] airitout : +0.2450
[2017-01-24 20:03:15] MikeHunt : i might go finex instead
[2017-01-24 20:03:17] MikeHunt : fees arent too bad
[2017-01-24 20:03:23] MikeHunt : can do margin funding there as well
[2017-01-24 20:03:25] Tetsuo : plz do that
[2017-01-24 20:06:13] airitout : long it till 910 atleast
[2017-01-24 20:06:20] sleger : I paid 3.6btc over the past 2 fundings, dont complain for 50 bucks....
[2017-01-24 20:06:29] narnarfromnarnia : lol thanks sleger
[2017-01-24 20:07:04] MikeHunt : sledger going short? hell really has frozen over...
[2017-01-24 20:07:29] sleger : I am net long overall
[2017-01-24 20:07:40] arbitrage101 : there are cheaper place to hedge/short
[2017-01-24 20:07:40] sleger : and still no d in my username
[2017-01-24 20:07:49] sleger : arbitrage101: where ?
[2017-01-24 20:07:50] MikeHunt : typo
[2017-01-24 20:07:58] arbitrage101 : sleger: finex ..
[2017-01-24 20:08:07] MikeHunt : re finex: "Because of the Chinese New Year festivities in Taiwan our banks will be closed from Friday 27 January to Wednesday 1 February."
[2017-01-24 20:08:13] sleger : arbitrage101: cheaper as in you only risk losing all your capital ?
[2017-01-24 20:08:31] arbitrage101 : they handle the theft pretty well
[2017-01-24 20:08:42] arbitrage101 : token now worth .68
[2017-01-24 20:08:51] arbitrage101 : wish i didnt sell at .5
[2017-01-24 20:08:51] sleger : arbitrage101: only takes one investor bringing the suit far enough to have everything frozen there
[2017-01-24 20:08:58] airitout : i am good here
[2017-01-24 20:09:21] MikeHunt : kraken might be an alternative
[2017-01-24 20:09:23] MikeHunt : xbt/eur
[2017-01-24 20:09:27] MikeHunt : 0.16% maker fee
[2017-01-24 20:09:33] MikeHunt : they have 5x margin as well
[2017-01-24 20:09:43] sleger : yes that might be ok-ish
[2017-01-24 20:09:51] sleger : not sure for larger positions though
[2017-01-24 20:10:04] johndoe : bfx f'd up so majorly on that hack. Crazy stupid security. Unforgivable. They had years to get their security right and yet they f'd it all up. They just got lucky so many people had USD balances on there.
[2017-01-24 20:10:11] cz9emcu : finex are amateurs. only a matter of time before another hack.
[2017-01-24 20:10:12] knikky : goddamn funding took 6%
[2017-01-24 20:10:15] knikky : ?
[2017-01-24 20:10:41] airitout : 0.28 of total contract value
[2017-01-24 20:11:02] airitout : %
[2017-01-24 20:11:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 100 @ 0.011790
[2017-01-24 20:11:10] MikeHunt : shame that almost every single exchange has to have a fucking problem with it
[2017-01-24 20:11:56] BitMEX_Sam : If the funding is an issue, trade futures
[2017-01-24 20:12:00] knikky : i guess i'll start looking elsewhere
[2017-01-24 20:12:18] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Sam: with a negative h17 prem, not a great alternative atm
[2017-01-24 20:13:08] -_- : damn dumping
[2017-01-24 20:13:13] BitMEX_Sam : Futures everywhere are trading in backwardation
[2017-01-24 20:13:19] -_- : i could have held onto my badly timed short and closed in profit
[2017-01-24 20:13:19] BitMEX_Sam : Sounds like an opportunity to me
[2017-01-24 20:13:24] arbitrage101 : yes
[2017-01-24 20:13:28] arbitrage101 : i am net long also lol
[2017-01-24 20:13:35] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Sam: if your long
[2017-01-24 20:13:37] arbitrage101 : pretty rare occation
[2017-01-24 20:14:01] knikky : i think i would have been better off closing my short that was close to even and reopening a new trade
[2017-01-24 20:14:26] sleger : backtrading is easy
[2017-01-24 20:14:57] keesverhoeven : Finally, down :)
[2017-01-24 20:16:02] cz9emcu : here she comes
[2017-01-24 20:16:14] narnarfromnarnia : fake out
[2017-01-24 20:16:26] arbitrage101 : price is looking very strong
[2017-01-24 20:16:47] airitout : keesverhoeven: ah nederlander
[2017-01-24 20:17:03] keesverhoeven : Yep
[2017-01-24 20:17:12] airitout : vvd?
[2017-01-24 20:17:29] airitout : d66 bedoel ik
[2017-01-24 20:17:30] airitout : ;)
[2017-01-24 20:18:11] keesverhoeven : Hahaha, D66 ja. Maar het is mijn standaard naam als ik m'n naam niet in wil vullen
[2017-01-24 20:19:23] -_- : xbth17 tanked $60 about 20 hours ago. might not be worth it to long when premium can go negative in a big way
[2017-01-24 20:20:15] MikeHunt : might try and get h17 short on next bounce
[2017-01-24 20:20:22] MikeHunt : at this rate it could be a few days :/
[2017-01-24 20:22:45] narnarfromnarnia : there's hidden buyers here
[2017-01-24 20:22:54] narnarfromnarnia : something is going on up most likely
[2017-01-24 20:24:01] -_- : bitfinex really dumping
[2017-01-24 20:24:04] -_- : taking the lead
[2017-01-24 20:27:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 100 @ 898.54
[2017-01-24 20:30:16] narnarfromnarnia : buy time
[2017-01-24 20:31:42] knikky : seems ambivalent
[2017-01-24 20:36:45] narnarfromnarnia : should be a pump here around 940-950 is some big stops
[2017-01-24 20:37:07] knikky : thats an enormous pump
[2017-01-24 20:37:27] narnarfromnarnia : knikky: around there would trigger some serious volume
[2017-01-24 20:37:38] narnarfromnarnia : lot of leveraged shorts have to close if that gets near
[2017-01-24 20:37:50] narnarfromnarnia : everyone so bearish usually means a wipe out is coming
[2017-01-24 20:45:31] -_- : yeah that's what i would expect
[2017-01-24 20:45:43] -_- : and price did hit 6500 CNY but didnt do much damage
[2017-01-24 20:47:32] -_- : need a manipulative pump to 7000+ CNY to change the negative premiums around
[2017-01-24 20:48:14] -_- : stamp and finex about to crumble it looks like
[2017-01-24 20:48:24] -_- : i'm sure china can find a few thousand BTC to dump
[2017-01-24 20:48:48] narnarfromnarnia : -_-: there's more shorts to be closed than longs
[2017-01-24 20:48:52] narnarfromnarnia : for sure
[2017-01-24 20:50:07] -_- : lol
[2017-01-24 20:50:16] -_- : 37k btc long on bitfinex. 13k short on bitfinex
[2017-01-24 20:50:34] -_- : i'm guessing close to the same ratio on china exchanges
[2017-01-24 20:50:48] -_- : on futures seems people more heavily shorting though
[2017-01-24 20:52:22] knikky : really is a trollbox.
[2017-01-24 20:53:07] Noobz : knikky: for sure
[2017-01-24 20:53:38] Farzad : 73K transactions on backlog now !
[2017-01-24 20:53:39] Farzad : lol
[2017-01-24 20:53:53] Farzad : this alone is damaging to bitcoin
[2017-01-24 20:54:04] Farzad : It may never resolve
[2017-01-24 20:54:10] Farzad : at this rate
[2017-01-24 20:54:18] Farzad : it is only getting worse
[2017-01-24 20:54:27] -_- : lol it'll go back to a few thousand eventually
[2017-01-24 20:55:03] -_- : bitfinex bear unloading
[2017-01-24 20:55:10] -_- : china isn't following yet
[2017-01-24 20:59:17] Farzad : I hope it doesnt decrease so core developers are forced to do something about it
[2017-01-24 20:59:53] -_- : this has been happening for the last 18 months at least
[2017-01-24 21:00:05] -_- : and price went $200 to $1250 during that time
[2017-01-24 21:00:10] -_- : and still nothing has been done about it
[2017-01-24 21:01:02] -_- : bearstamp going to try and break 900
[2017-01-24 21:01:54] narnarfromnarnia : stamp leading
[2017-01-24 21:02:00] narnarfromnarnia : nice
[2017-01-24 21:02:03] -_- : etc starting to go up. not sure if it's the next leg up or not
[2017-01-24 21:02:12] narnarfromnarnia : looks like it
[2017-01-24 21:02:21] narnarfromnarnia : some bigger volume buys hidden on the down wave there
[2017-01-24 21:04:18] -_- : seems some bot is still trying to hold price up and pick up some more BTC. dump put on hold for now
[2017-01-24 21:10:18] -_- : why did xbth17 randomly go up $4 price is the same on the exchanges
[2017-01-24 21:10:59] -_- : closed my long at 883 and now it's almost 888.
[2017-01-24 21:16:46] -_- : now someone starts longing this negative premium on quarterly
[2017-01-24 21:18:14] narnarfromnarnia : yep
[2017-01-24 21:18:19] narnarfromnarnia : it will ride up just for that for now
[2017-01-24 21:29:15] -_- : okcoin usd liquidity isnt much either
[2017-01-24 21:30:29] -_- : well i hope that trader who fomo opened a long at 890 is happy with their entry point
[2017-01-24 21:31:54] MikeHunt : looks like a bearish triangle in 1hr
[2017-01-24 21:43:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 350 @ 895.95
[2017-01-24 21:45:56] -_- : stamp market dump
[2017-01-24 21:46:03] -_- : just waiting on you china.
[2017-01-24 21:46:29] -_- : break 6240 cny and make it rain bitcoins
[2017-01-24 21:47:08] -_- : china has done nothing for 4 hours now. wake up!!
[2017-01-24 21:47:38] -_- : there we go nice xbth17 market dump with a big negative premium good job
[2017-01-24 21:49:54] -_- : ready for a large dump and -50 premium on quarterly cause why not
[2017-01-24 21:57:53] Ahhere : -_-: I do enjoy these little chats
[2017-01-24 21:58:11] -_- : all you mofos sleep
[2017-01-24 21:58:15] -_- : or afk
[2017-01-24 21:58:25] -_- : and i'm trying to get this to rally or dump
[2017-01-24 21:58:42] narnarfromnarnia : everyone thinks dump
[2017-01-24 21:58:49] narnarfromnarnia : so it should shake them out
[2017-01-24 21:58:57] narnarfromnarnia : not going to let everyone enjoy the ride
[2017-01-24 21:59:48] rangle : who's everyone, and howd you read their minds? ;)
[2017-01-24 22:02:36] -_- : why is kaiko 50/50 stamp and 0kcoin usd. have you seen 0kcoin usd order book. weak
[2017-01-24 22:03:34] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 100 @ 894.08
[2017-01-24 22:04:01] -_- : lol xbth17 just went -10 to -20
[2017-01-24 22:04:09] -_- : panic panic panic sell sell sell
[2017-01-24 22:06:34] -_- : lol panic sellers just got btfo
[2017-01-24 22:06:44] narnarfromnarnia : lol
[2017-01-24 22:06:45] proctologic : panic
[2017-01-24 22:06:49] narnarfromnarnia : ok going for it
[2017-01-24 22:07:23] proctologic : 900 here we come
[2017-01-24 22:07:25] Ahhere : narnarfromnarnia: you never stopped beliebing ;)
[2017-01-24 22:07:33] BTC-Noob : once the reks start appearing one should know enough
[2017-01-24 22:14:59] MikeHunt : should dump by 29th
[2017-01-24 22:17:38] Ahhere : should pump by 32nd
[2017-01-24 22:18:41] MikeHunt : Ahhere: 1st feb?
[2017-01-24 22:19:18] Ahhere : MikeHunt: sorry I meant thirtythreetienth
[2017-01-24 22:26:15] narnarfromnarnia : let those shorters on high leverage load up then pumps them out
[2017-01-24 22:30:43] rangle : funding rate is painful for shorts at the moment
[2017-01-24 22:31:21] narnarfromnarnia : yeah very
[2017-01-24 22:31:37] ngfdcn : how do you know?
[2017-01-24 22:31:54] sleger : he has eyes ?
[2017-01-24 22:33:51] Farzad : go go :D
[2017-01-24 22:34:05] Farzad : :bitmex:
[2017-01-24 22:34:45] abbey : short squeeze is gonna be brutal
[2017-01-24 22:35:45] ngfdcn : oh nvm i was thinking of a different funding rate
[2017-01-24 22:36:33] Farzad : test
[2017-01-24 22:41:14] -_- : who is buying on 0kcoin. dont they know if they stopped that they can buy lower
[2017-01-24 22:46:15] rangle : i should go exercise, but BTC looks interesting
[2017-01-24 22:48:19] Papou : lol i bet u market is being proped up
[2017-01-24 22:48:22] Papou : to rape short funding
[2017-01-24 22:48:29] Papou : until the crash
[2017-01-24 22:48:52] MikeHunt : starve us out and then red dildo us :/
[2017-01-24 22:50:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 100 @ 890.57
[2017-01-24 22:50:30] Papou : bye
[2017-01-24 22:51:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 56 @ 890.31
[2017-01-24 22:51:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 500 @ 889.92
[2017-01-24 22:51:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 67000 @ 890.18 **MEGA-REKT** :boom:
[2017-01-24 22:51:37] -_- : damn
[2017-01-24 22:51:49] -_- : fools keep buying the dips. gonna end up homeless
[2017-01-24 22:51:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 24970 @ 888.13
[2017-01-24 22:51:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 30 @ 889.50
[2017-01-24 22:51:51] REKT : HODL HODL HODL!
[2017-01-24 22:52:01] -_- : like xbth17 jumps to 890 for no reason twice
[2017-01-24 22:52:05] -_- : now it's 872
[2017-01-24 22:52:12] MikeHunt : abbey: you were saying?
[2017-01-24 22:52:34] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 500 @ 0.011830
[2017-01-24 22:52:53] Farzad : get ready for 880 break :D
[2017-01-24 22:52:55] Ahhere : good morning china
[2017-01-24 22:53:05] -_- : rofl 0kcoin
[2017-01-24 22:53:17] -_- : there is the market dump i've been waiting for
[2017-01-24 22:53:24] -_- : needed to 50x short that
[2017-01-24 22:53:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 3520 @ 884.77
[2017-01-24 22:53:49] -_- : once 860 goes it's game over
[2017-01-24 22:54:18] -_- : hasnt been lower since a week ago. that's a lot of panic selling to happen
[2017-01-24 22:54:52] airitout : lets hope
[2017-01-24 22:55:05] -_- : xbth17 i'm talking about
[2017-01-24 22:55:06] Farzad : if it breaks 880, it will fall fast
[2017-01-24 22:55:32] Ahhere : -_-: all in shart guise
[2017-01-24 22:55:33] Farzad : any Dota2 player here ? :D
[2017-01-24 22:57:50] -_- : 6200 and 6188 cny have biggish walls on 0kcoin
[2017-01-24 22:57:57] -_- : gonna take a bearwhale to dump through them
[2017-01-24 22:58:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 31269 @ 884.19
[2017-01-24 22:58:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 800 @ 883.55
[2017-01-24 22:58:29] -_- : yay bottom guessers wrong again. xbth17 goes lower
[2017-01-24 23:00:07] Derreck : xbth17 not feeling well
[2017-01-24 23:01:14] MikeHunt : downward pressure is strong
[2017-01-24 23:04:07] rangle : any reason for this dump? new news?
[2017-01-24 23:04:18] narnarfromnarnia : na no news
[2017-01-24 23:06:46] YOLOCOIN : why the gentle dump? Bitcoin afraid it'll hurt us?