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[2017-01-24 13:14:25] aethlios : we will have 2 bitcoins, a civil war will start.
[2017-01-24 13:14:53] VenCap : a new coin has to emerge
[2017-01-24 13:14:53] aethlios : double the spot and the futures.
[2017-01-24 13:15:17] VenCap : look at AOL today
[2017-01-24 13:15:19] Apocalyptic : BU people are winning ? lol
[2017-01-24 13:16:26] airitout : doos?
[2017-01-24 13:16:34] airitout : ddos?
[2017-01-24 13:16:42] aethlios : segwit now 25%
[2017-01-24 13:17:46] l3f : https://coin.dance/blocks
[2017-01-24 13:17:50] l3f : oh wow I thought BU was winning
[2017-01-24 13:17:51] l3f : apparently not
[2017-01-24 13:18:49] l3f : But there's now enough BU to block segwit entirely
[2017-01-24 13:20:26] VenCap : Arise Chickun/Rooster
[2017-01-24 13:25:46] rapidtrades : the next dump will take us below 850
[2017-01-24 13:26:05] l3f : rapidtrades: you've been waiting for this for how long now?
[2017-01-24 13:26:36] VenCap : below 850 ouch
[2017-01-24 13:27:18] l3f : VenCap: He was a bear before Satoshi mined the first block
[2017-01-24 13:27:28] l3f : His target is zero
[2017-01-24 13:27:41] VenCap : lols
[2017-01-24 13:28:01] VenCap : rapidtrades: You like Porridge Bro?
[2017-01-24 13:28:13] VenCap : Women with Golden Locks?
[2017-01-24 13:30:27] VenCap : Do you poop in woods?
[2017-01-24 13:30:29] VenCap : :OD
[2017-01-24 13:31:02] rapidtrades : describes me exactly
[2017-01-24 13:31:10] rapidtrades : ARE U A PSYCHIC?
[2017-01-24 13:32:48] VenCap : Is that the movie starring Norman Bates?
[2017-01-24 13:37:49] rapidtrades : don't fight guys
[2017-01-24 13:38:22] VenCap : yeah, just let it happen. Take this lube... wont hrt so much :P
[2017-01-24 13:52:31] VenCap : not long now
[2017-01-24 13:53:50] FreeBitcoins : if it breaks under 900 on this line it will be the beginning of the biggest red candle we have seen for some time
[2017-01-24 13:55:30] FreeBitcoins : not bitmex price but combined index and CNY 6200 critical
[2017-01-24 13:58:50] bingbongfly : damn what a rally this has been
[2017-01-24 13:59:08] bingbongfly : I remember buying BTC for 200$ not too long ago
[2017-01-24 13:59:30] bingbongfly : Just last summer I snagged some for 400$
[2017-01-24 14:01:56] VenCap : could break 6200 today
[2017-01-24 14:02:29] VenCap : looks like 1 person tryin to hold 6250
[2017-01-24 14:02:32] VenCap : not gonna happen
[2017-01-24 14:05:28] FreeBitcoins : if it breaks 6200 on this line then I will get cold feet about my cold storage
[2017-01-24 14:06:13] VenCap : well 6250 trying to hold back a army it seems
[2017-01-24 14:06:16] bingbongfly : FreeBitcoins: what's your entry price?
[2017-01-24 14:06:28] VenCap : like sticking thumb in a hole in huge dam
[2017-01-24 14:06:29] bingbongfly : FreeBitcoins: your cold storage must have been bought recently
[2017-01-24 14:06:43] bingbongfly : FreeBitcoins: I can't lose on my cold storage, feels good man :D
[2017-01-24 14:07:56] FreeBitcoins : bingbongfly: old school but dont matter. If I know 500-600 can be on the cards thats many dollars
[2017-01-24 14:09:34] bingbongfly : FreeBitcoins: true true, that's why I trade as well
[2017-01-24 14:09:51] bingbongfly : I could never sit by and watch my capital lose so much
[2017-01-24 14:10:01] bingbongfly : but I dont want to send my cold storage around
[2017-01-24 14:10:06] bingbongfly : so I rather short and hedge
[2017-01-24 14:10:12] bingbongfly : and try to play the waves with a trading stack
[2017-01-24 14:14:25] rustiv : what coins are the people here holding (mid-long term)?
[2017-01-24 14:14:36] rapidtrades : http://www.coindesk.com/press-releases/press-release-deribit-options-future-exchange-announces-quarterly-future-rebate-makers/
[2017-01-24 14:14:37] rustiv : I bet on $STRAT $ANS $WAVES $VTR $ETC $XMR $ZEC
[2017-01-24 14:16:38] VenCap : $STRAT is the only one you need there.
[2017-01-24 14:16:57] VenCap : $waves go for 40-50k tops in a months or two. then back to 20k rinse and repat. bad coin
[2017-01-24 14:18:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5000 @ 899.91
[2017-01-24 14:19:35] VenCap : OKCOin here have some more money to throw on fire
[2017-01-24 14:20:24] sleger : rapidtrades: have you traded there ?
[2017-01-24 14:20:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 12000 @ 897.76
[2017-01-24 14:21:21] FreeBitcoins : fuark this is very dangerous here
[2017-01-24 14:22:15] VenCap : yeah... like watching house fire
[2017-01-24 14:23:27] sleger : buy when others are fearful he said
[2017-01-24 14:24:14] VenCap : hes dead now
[2017-01-24 14:25:45] Ahhere : rustiv: xmr, eth, aeon, siacoin
[2017-01-24 14:27:06] Ahhere : Last two are long shots obviously esp siacoin
[2017-01-24 14:27:16] Ahhere : aeon has same team as monero
[2017-01-24 14:27:20] Ahhere : its for mobile
[2017-01-24 14:30:11] VenCap : cny just give up the ghost already
[2017-01-24 14:31:11] VenCap : i've seen toy armies with better defenses
[2017-01-24 14:37:20] MikeHunt : getting raped with funding isnt fun
[2017-01-24 14:38:10] rapidtrades : aethlios: card doesn't work they say :( its cos I said its working great yesterday
[2017-01-24 14:39:02] VenCap : yeah agree, crazy Mike Hunt. Funding jsut wrong
[2017-01-24 14:39:10] VenCap : will always make sureBitmex does not grow big
[2017-01-24 14:40:26] MikeHunt : if this is still here tomoz im going to another exchange
[2017-01-24 14:40:39] MikeHunt : 0.34% in 13 hrs :O
[2017-01-24 14:40:45] aethlios : Unplanned maintenance for Named cards until Tuesday, 23 January 13:30 UTC. Transaction declines are possible.
[2017-01-24 14:41:14] VenCap : just over 5hrs
[2017-01-24 14:41:18] VenCap : 0.29%
[2017-01-24 14:41:45] VenCap : for what exactly. how much goes to Bitmex? 50%?
[2017-01-24 14:41:54] BitMEX_Sam : None of it goes to us.
[2017-01-24 14:41:58] airitout : they only charge funding rate when you have an open position at that time, right?
[2017-01-24 14:42:12] BitMEX_Sam : https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#Funding
[2017-01-24 14:42:13] MikeHunt : airitout: yup
[2017-01-24 14:42:15] aethlios : airitout: right
[2017-01-24 14:42:19] VenCap : well if that is the case, do away with it compeltely.
[2017-01-24 14:42:28] VenCap : what is the point of it?
[2017-01-24 14:42:35] VenCap : giving crumbs back to people who loose a lot
[2017-01-24 14:42:46] BitMEX_Sam : A derivative without a settlement has no reason to trade at the spot price
[2017-01-24 14:42:51] BitMEX_Sam : The funding tethers the price.
[2017-01-24 14:43:00] VenCap : funding tethers the price ?
[2017-01-24 14:43:08] BitMEX_Sam : Please read the above guide
[2017-01-24 14:43:30] VenCap : thank you Sam.
[2017-01-24 14:43:35] BitMEX_Sam : From the beginning would likely be most useful. These mechanics exist for a reason. :)
[2017-01-24 14:43:41] VenCap : but you would be better off here not having it.
[2017-01-24 14:43:46] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Sam: issue is there doesnt seem to be a way to safely store value (fiat) on this exchange
[2017-01-24 14:43:50] VenCap : youd keep many more customers
[2017-01-24 14:44:15] VenCap : easily sneak the fee into buying selling fees
[2017-01-24 14:44:24] VenCap : people wont notice so much then
[2017-01-24 14:44:32] VenCap : like "Free Postsage"
[2017-01-24 14:45:38] airitout : if they would offer tether coin
[2017-01-24 14:51:56] -_- : 9.5 million contracts open on xbt swap and quarterly. epic rekts incoming.
[2017-01-24 14:53:32] VenCap : Epic....
[2017-01-24 14:57:28] VenCap : they are putting up brave fight, i am sure the funding will compensate for the epic day they will have
[2017-01-24 14:58:08] rapidtrades : march at 887, swap at 900 this is some major stupidty at play here
[2017-01-24 14:58:33] arbitrage101 : Market price is usually rational
[2017-01-24 14:58:42] arbitrage101 : people who think otherwise may not
[2017-01-24 15:00:42] -_- : 0kcoin futures $880 quarterly
[2017-01-24 15:02:17] Noobz : where's my sub 6k?
[2017-01-24 15:04:47] VenCap : wheres my Butler..... Alfred?
[2017-01-24 15:05:48] Noobz : a sub can be a kind of butler too xD
[2017-01-24 15:07:24] VenCap : a "sub-servient" :OD
[2017-01-24 15:24:36] -_- : china trying to dump
[2017-01-24 15:29:51] bingbongfly : we gonna have a massive shortsqueeze when the bearwhale goes down
[2017-01-24 15:29:56] bingbongfly : wonder when
[2017-01-24 15:30:13] -_- : price will need to shoot over $1000 i bet
[2017-01-24 15:30:27] -_- : they held on when price at 960
[2017-01-24 15:30:54] -_- : i think we have a better chance at dumping
[2017-01-24 15:31:30] -_- : dump to low 4000's to complete the head of the inverse head and shoulders
[2017-01-24 15:31:42] -_- : like 4200 CNY
[2017-01-24 15:32:21] -_- : so $600 most exchanges. xbth17 like $530 i bet
[2017-01-24 15:32:41] -_- : $350 dump incoming. most shorts get ADL i bet
[2017-01-24 15:33:16] MikeHunt : the failure of the china pump moves the mean down
[2017-01-24 15:33:19] MikeHunt : ill do some paintings
[2017-01-24 15:36:27] MikeHunt : http://i.imgur.com/1tvTYYe.png
[2017-01-24 15:38:46] -_- : i like that MikeHunt. the fake volume started and then btc took off
[2017-01-24 15:38:57] -_- : so it could fall all the way back down there
[2017-01-24 15:39:50] MikeHunt : yeh, so i might leave here for a while, negative funding for what could be a few weeks/months dont sound too fun
[2017-01-24 15:45:43] VenCap : the guy at 6250 cny must have a lot of bitcoin
[2017-01-24 15:45:51] VenCap : its being well defended but toally futile
[2017-01-24 15:47:37] johndoe : interesting that almost all of the USD exchanges are so close in price, even BTC-E
[2017-01-24 15:48:18] VenCap : "We all Fall Together"
[2017-01-24 15:58:22] -_- : watching the charts is so boring now. need to find a new hobby
[2017-01-24 15:59:54] VenCap : How does this 6250 at OKCoin not get smashed?
[2017-01-24 16:00:04] johndoe : seriously. no margin+no fees = no liquidity. :(
[2017-01-24 16:00:18] johndoe : err, with fees i mean
[2017-01-24 16:00:29] VenCap : it wont stop them trading. they are hooked
[2017-01-24 16:00:33] VenCap : fees are fees.
[2017-01-24 16:00:44] VenCap : most have so much cash a feew fees wont matter
[2017-01-24 16:01:11] johndoe : i imagine some, especially HFT will have to come to bitmex. Lower fees, especially maker fees and massive leverage allowed.
[2017-01-24 16:01:38] -_- : maybe
[2017-01-24 16:01:47] johndoe : looks BTCC is about the same liquidity as bitstamp or finex roughly
[2017-01-24 16:01:49] -_- : 6250 gone
[2017-01-24 16:02:38] johndoe : 6250 held
[2017-01-24 16:02:40] VenCap : 53btc stil lleft
[2017-01-24 16:02:40] abbey : lol
[2017-01-24 16:02:43] VenCap : for now
[2017-01-24 16:02:45] -_- : 2.8btc left
[2017-01-24 16:02:47] VenCap : stubborn bull
[2017-01-24 16:03:06] -_- : 49.68 btc dumped into it
[2017-01-24 16:03:14] -_- : i think china would be more eager to sell
[2017-01-24 16:03:24] VenCap : https://cryptowat.ch/okcoin/btccny/15m
[2017-01-24 16:03:33] VenCap : let see what happens
[2017-01-24 16:03:48] VenCap : its like "hey i broke the wall" Err.. what do we do now
[2017-01-24 16:04:11] VenCap : "wait for new wall to smash"
[2017-01-24 16:04:17] VenCap : "really finish them off"
[2017-01-24 16:04:20] -_- : see how many bots keep putting up buy walls on the way down . 296 BTC till 6200 now
[2017-01-24 16:05:01] -_- : i'm gonna go shower. watch something happens as soon as i get in
[2017-01-24 16:05:30] VenCap : i jsut had shower! thought the same thing
[2017-01-24 16:05:38] VenCap : all that happened was i came out cleaner
[2017-01-24 16:06:50] -_- : Big spread means 20 cny swings
[2017-01-24 16:07:22] VenCap : has okcoin broken.. its mexican stand off
[2017-01-24 16:07:41] johndoe : looks like bitmex isn't even following hu0bi or ok-coin anymore on USD
[2017-01-24 16:07:50] johndoe : on swap i mean
[2017-01-24 16:08:08] VenCap : Bots have taken over.
[2017-01-24 16:10:46] johndoe : exchanges aren't even tracking each other :( half are moving up and half trending down on 5m charts
[2017-01-24 16:11:48] herpinator : this is weird
[2017-01-24 16:13:43] abbey : nice
[2017-01-24 16:14:55] VenCap : this is odd.. like feels liek a big trap odd
[2017-01-24 16:15:13] Teddy76 : we need a new leader
[2017-01-24 16:15:28] VenCap : Darth Vader would be useful
[2017-01-24 16:15:34] MikeHunt : from what i can see
[2017-01-24 16:15:41] abbey : epic rekts incoming boys
[2017-01-24 16:15:41] MikeHunt : in 2013 when they reintroduced fees
[2017-01-24 16:15:45] VenCap : ok. going out. sod it.
[2017-01-24 16:15:46] MikeHunt : it took a while to set in
[2017-01-24 16:15:51] VenCap : abbey: if you long :P
[2017-01-24 16:17:05] abbey : i never rekt
[2017-01-24 16:17:19] -_- : Pumping
[2017-01-24 16:17:46] MikeHunt : 2013... http://i.imgur.com/ghRlCye.png
[2017-01-24 16:18:04] -_- : Xbth17 randomly pumping a lot
[2017-01-24 16:18:36] VenCap : i am shorting this at 920 with everything i have
[2017-01-24 16:19:02] bingbongfly : finally
[2017-01-24 16:19:04] bingbongfly : let me out of my long
[2017-01-24 16:19:04] abbey : weeeeee
[2017-01-24 16:19:05] bingbongfly : i'm dying
[2017-01-24 16:19:10] bingbongfly : pls XBTH
[2017-01-24 16:19:19] -_- : Lol then xbth17 randomly drops $5 so unpredictable
[2017-01-24 16:19:32] bingbongfly : -_-: not really, I wanted to get out of my long
[2017-01-24 16:19:44] bingbongfly : -_-: probably lots of underwater longs
[2017-01-24 16:19:55] bingbongfly : which means it's just chop chop city
[2017-01-24 16:19:59] MikeHunt : some guy here is still stuck at 1100 lol
[2017-01-24 16:20:06] -_- : I shorted 888 closed at 895 and a second later it's at 890. Wat
[2017-01-24 16:20:09] MikeHunt : if it falls bellow ~600 hes fucked
[2017-01-24 16:20:24] bingbongfly : MikeHunt: oh yeah
[2017-01-24 16:24:24] abbey : the bull is strong
[2017-01-24 16:25:51] abbey : don't fight back, just let it go, less pain
[2017-01-24 16:27:29] abbey : forget about those audi dreams, reality check
[2017-01-24 16:30:57] airitout : abbey: lol
[2017-01-24 16:33:01] Papou : bull has no juice
[2017-01-24 16:33:10] Papou : no more money to prop this up
[2017-01-24 16:33:32] Papou : on the way to hong kong boys to watch the fireworks with bobby lee
[2017-01-24 16:33:44] abbey : just look at it go
[2017-01-24 16:33:54] Papou : ok coin #1 holder is all long, hes been buying it all up thinking bitcoin moons
[2017-01-24 16:33:58] Papou : hes about to get liquidated
[2017-01-24 16:34:04] Papou : 40,000 btc market sell
[2017-01-24 16:35:08] KyllingLolsson : Bitcoin is not juiced up ryt now
[2017-01-24 16:37:16] bingbongfly : Papou: no he is short and long
[2017-01-24 16:38:17] bingbongfly : ok coin #1 holder is most probably both short and long, but mostly short I think. He has been getting squeezed lately, we'll see what happens
[2017-01-24 16:40:49] Papou : lol no
[2017-01-24 16:40:58] Papou : also #2 and 3 reduced positons by a lot
[2017-01-24 16:41:03] airitout : Papou: where do you get this info?
[2017-01-24 16:41:08] herpinator : the bogdanovs are in charge
[2017-01-24 16:41:12] Papou : insiders
[2017-01-24 16:41:19] Papou : everyone thought bitcoin will moon they said :(
[2017-01-24 16:41:33] abbey : lol, papou indicator bullish as f*ck
[2017-01-24 16:41:53] Papou : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-19/chinese-investors-exit-bitcoin-flood-gold-etfs
[2017-01-24 16:41:54] airitout : Papou: how do you know that someone in okcoin is 40k long?
[2017-01-24 16:42:07] Papou : airitout who do u think pumped the price
[2017-01-24 16:42:15] Papou : normal average joes?
[2017-01-24 16:42:32] airitout : just answer the question kid
[2017-01-24 16:42:44] Papou : i have info dont worry
[2017-01-24 16:42:47] Papou : but also
[2017-01-24 16:42:48] Papou : https://www.okcoin.com/future/futureTop.do?type=1&symbol=0
[2017-01-24 16:42:52] airitout : lol
[2017-01-24 16:42:58] Papou : LOL shorts not even open yet
[2017-01-24 16:43:08] Papou : what u think happens when 50%+ go short from 30%
[2017-01-24 16:43:10] Papou : game over
[2017-01-24 16:43:42] airitout : papou gekko. has all the inside information
[2017-01-24 16:44:09] -_- : 6275 and 6280 and then 6298 are the only spots with walls on 0kcoin
[2017-01-24 16:45:20] Rado : Poopoo the game is never over
[2017-01-24 16:45:23] thomaskikansha : swap trading above index :o
[2017-01-24 16:47:07] bingbongfly : shorts starting to sweat, even a premium on swap lol
[2017-01-24 16:47:23] bingbongfly : wish I didnt close half my long so soon, poor trading this week
[2017-01-24 16:52:10] -_- : 0kcoin can be at 6300 in a second
[2017-01-24 16:52:54] -_- : dont know why MM is pushing xbth17 down still
[2017-01-24 16:53:45] Rado : -_-: MM is not pushing anything
[2017-01-24 16:53:50] Rado : if you understand what an MM is
[2017-01-24 16:54:03] -_- : see 6299
[2017-01-24 16:54:19] -_- : the market maker with his 15k walls were at 895 and then a minute later 891
[2017-01-24 16:54:23] -_- : and price is going up everywhere else
[2017-01-24 16:55:05] -_- : oh well. everything is out of wack. dont even know why i'm trying to trade this
[2017-01-24 16:56:10] herpinator : I feel the same with no clear market leader
[2017-01-24 16:56:54] MikeHunt : you guys have played rome total war? what happens wen ur leader dies in battle?
[2017-01-24 16:57:56] Tetsuo : he´s dead?
[2017-01-24 16:58:05] knikky : RUN AWAY
[2017-01-24 16:58:15] Noobz : you get his girl?
[2017-01-24 16:58:30] MikeHunt : knikky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FPELc1wEvk
[2017-01-24 16:58:33] knikky : MikeHunt: didn't quite tap 950 like you said but the multi-day prediction so far has been pretty good
[2017-01-24 16:58:44] johndoe : so strange that CNY exchanges are not leading bitmex price. Gotta rethink my whole strategy
[2017-01-24 16:59:06] MikeHunt : knikky: well china kinda ruined that :/
[2017-01-24 16:59:33] johndoe : does anyone have link to current kaiko index that bitmex uses? it still just about half stamp, half ok-coin?
[2017-01-24 16:59:46] airitout : Rado, i haven't familiarize myself with trading bots. I saw that you are using. iam looking for one in the forex market, do you have any advice where to look or start?
[2017-01-24 16:59:53] knikky : yeah but it was within a few dollars and if this support breaks it's crashing pretty hard it seems
[2017-01-24 17:00:11] MikeHunt : airitout: github
[2017-01-24 17:00:13] Tetsuo : johndoe: quarterlys in here mostly follow the movement of okc quarterlys
[2017-01-24 17:00:46] MikeHunt : only western exchange with no fees now is coinfloor iirc
[2017-01-24 17:00:49] johndoe : Tetsuo: ok that makes sense, but i was mostly refering to the swap
[2017-01-24 17:03:07] MikeHunt : swap mark is unnervingly flat
[2017-01-24 17:21:55] -_- : 6240 to 6318 is empty on 0kcoin order book lolol
[2017-01-24 17:22:44] -_- : it seems just 1 trader is trying to get in or close out a short. once they are done then who knows what'll happen
[2017-01-24 17:29:39] -_- : ah 99 btc buy wall put up. 62 btc left of it now
[2017-01-24 17:29:40] -_- : 51
[2017-01-24 17:29:45] -_- : 45. sell sell sell
[2017-01-24 17:37:23] abbey : nom nom nom
[2017-01-24 17:48:25] Tetsuo : https://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/tradespm/24h?c=e&r=hour&t=ae byebye china dominance
[2017-01-24 17:49:25] VenCap : abbey: wanna share that Chocolate ?
[2017-01-24 17:49:57] airitout : Tetsuo: what time graph you checking?/
[2017-01-24 17:50:39] Tetsuo : 24h, so that u can clearly see the no fees/fees effect kickin in
[2017-01-24 17:51:03] airitout : china has 90% @ 24
[2017-01-24 17:51:54] Tetsuo : what? west combined has >50% now according to the graph?
[2017-01-24 17:53:10] airitout : choose all currencies and youll see that okcoin alone has 84%
[2017-01-24 17:53:17] herpinator : that site needs to list bitmex :p
[2017-01-24 17:53:22] Tetsuo : http://www.pic-upload.de/view-32549177/volume.jpg.html
[2017-01-24 17:53:27] abbey : VenCap: :) nope, i think this is mine
[2017-01-24 17:53:36] Tetsuo : this graph is with all currencies?
[2017-01-24 17:54:06] VenCap : Sharing is Caring :O)
[2017-01-24 17:54:56] abbey : I know, you can take the rest
[2017-01-24 17:55:31] airitout : Tetsuo: ok coin has 89% at yours as well.. what are you talkbout the west having 30?
[2017-01-24 17:55:57] Tetsuo : move your mouse at the x-axis to the point at 17:00
[2017-01-24 17:56:45] wurstgelee : okcoin doing almost 2 btc vol/min atm
[2017-01-24 17:56:46] wurstgelee : wow
[2017-01-24 17:56:48] wurstgelee : 8)
[2017-01-24 17:56:57] Papou : i think chinese are planning an exit strategy
[2017-01-24 17:56:58] Tetsuo : that´s how market leaders roll
[2017-01-24 17:57:02] Papou : because they know they cant all sell at once now
[2017-01-24 17:57:25] wurstgelee : chinese dont plan to exit. wyhy would they?
[2017-01-24 17:57:28] wurstgelee : *why
[2017-01-24 17:57:35] airitout : its 2am in china ofcourse volume is low now at their exchanges
[2017-01-24 17:57:40] Tetsuo : Papou is retarded, that´s all
[2017-01-24 17:57:49] wurstgelee : airitout: no. bots are turned off and fees were introduced
[2017-01-24 17:57:50] wurstgelee : thats y
[2017-01-24 17:58:58] Tetsuo : okc´s own bot is sittin in the corner and cryin
[2017-01-24 17:59:02] VenCap : nom nom... red candle chocolate my favourite :O)
[2017-01-24 17:59:13] VenCap : right off to watch Series. Later all. Be Lucky.
[2017-01-24 17:59:17] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: probably binge drinking with willy
[2017-01-24 17:59:17] Noobz : Tetsuo: he is losing his religion
[2017-01-24 17:59:26] Tetsuo : wurstgelee: lol
[2017-01-24 17:59:28] VenCap : Donteat that Green Candle choclolate! its posion.
[2017-01-24 18:00:10] VenCap : Papou: Chinese Exit strategy no.24
[2017-01-24 18:01:01] wurstgelee : i like how okc makes 20 CNY moves on 1 btc volume now
[2017-01-24 18:01:02] wurstgelee : :p
[2017-01-24 18:01:13] wurstgelee : thats almost as bad as bitstamp...
[2017-01-24 18:02:30] johndoe : hopefully some of the exchanges will consolidate or something. this is kinda embarrassing.
[2017-01-24 18:08:59] airitout : this is boring
[2017-01-24 18:10:00] -_- : and will be for a while
[2017-01-24 18:10:09] -_- : gotta eat up that supply then we go up
[2017-01-24 18:10:47] charlyko : pump incoming
[2017-01-24 18:13:01] wurstgelee : charlyko: curiosity makes me ask this: y?
[2017-01-24 18:14:19] johndoe : swap sure is holding strong
[2017-01-24 18:14:40] wurstgelee : swap is holding nothing, its following spot ;)
[2017-01-24 18:15:27] wurstgelee : but nothing what we do here has any influence on the spot price of btc.
[2017-01-24 18:15:32] wurstgelee : one way only
[2017-01-24 18:15:56] Tetsuo : if this continues for more than a week than i assume the west might take the lead for a while
[2017-01-24 18:16:31] Tetsuo : okkoin is nothing more than a clown car right now
[2017-01-24 18:16:32] wurstgelee : yeah, probably
[2017-01-24 18:16:45] wurstgelee : that. or boredom and altsareback
[2017-01-24 18:17:20] Tetsuo : would also be fine for me
[2017-01-24 18:17:30] wurstgelee : yep,, has been a while
[2017-01-24 18:17:41] wurstgelee : maybe fab to march, btc again starting april
[2017-01-24 18:17:44] wurstgelee : that would be niuce
[2017-01-24 18:17:48] wurstgelee : nice
[2017-01-24 18:19:06] johndoe : amazing. PBoC kills bitcoin by mandating boredom :)
[2017-01-24 18:19:25] herpinator : no fun allowed
[2017-01-24 18:19:30] herpinator : ;_;
[2017-01-24 18:20:20] Tetsuo : 40cny move within 1 second... and no one cares
[2017-01-24 18:20:40] Tetsuo : 19:20:03 6260.1 0.109 19:20:02 6299.1 0.93
[2017-01-24 18:20:47] MikeHunt : i expect this will slowly decline until a whale gives up patience and dumps
[2017-01-24 18:20:54] -_- : what are you suppose to do
[2017-01-24 18:21:24] -_- : quarterly here isnt going to move $7 every other second
[2017-01-24 18:21:36] johndoe : 0.2% is a really high fee. Especially compared to 0%...
[2017-01-24 18:21:42] johndoe : should've went with 0.1
[2017-01-24 18:22:07] -_- : yeah. people will be paying hundreds or thousands of dollars in fees in china
[2017-01-24 18:22:15] -_- : to pump or dump the price
[2017-01-24 18:22:55] johndoe : well, keep in mind that it will be a lot easier to pump or dump price, since there is such low liquidity - at least in the short-term
[2017-01-24 18:23:29] -_- : true. remove orders and pump or dump. but will other exchanges follow
[2017-01-24 18:23:32] johndoe : it would be great if USD exchanges start dominating again.
[2017-01-24 18:24:14] -_- : china still $7-$10 ahead of other exchanges
[2017-01-24 18:24:25] Tetsuo : no
[2017-01-24 18:25:41] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: that 40 cny move in a sec happened on less than 10 btc
[2017-01-24 18:25:45] wurstgelee : thats how bad it is atm ;)
[2017-01-24 18:25:55] charlyko : I hace choyna
[2017-01-24 18:25:59] charlyko : hate*
[2017-01-24 18:26:01] MikeHunt : the new mean has shifted downwards so that should put negative pressure on the price
[2017-01-24 18:26:45] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: lots of potential black swan events currently.
[2017-01-24 18:27:09] wurstgelee : turmp every day for the next 4 years. france and germany elections. uk/brexit. ....
[2017-01-24 18:27:16] wurstgelee : plus the usual stock crash scenario
[2017-01-24 18:28:01] wurstgelee : any of those would give btc a big push. so even short is risky imo
[2017-01-24 18:28:02] MikeHunt : yup, also what should be good for bitcoin can be bad, bank failures can affect exchanges
[2017-01-24 18:28:32] wurstgelee : thats rather unlikely
[2017-01-24 18:28:38] wurstgelee : but yes
[2017-01-24 18:37:50] cz9emcu : you might see btc go down initially during a GFC as people get margin calls elsewhere. Then btc would decouple and head higher as it doesn't have counterparty risk (except exchange wallets)
[2017-01-24 18:39:19] cz9emcu : Personally, I'd let my other accounts burn before I sell my btc
[2017-01-24 18:39:54] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: i checked the bank behind bitfinex, not very stable
[2017-01-24 18:40:05] MikeHunt : bitstamps bank is linked to unicredito
[2017-01-24 18:47:05] airitout : all open short positions will be charged for funding rates @9PM GMT+1, if you close position before that you wont be charged
[2017-01-24 18:47:19] airitout : if you have a long position you will get paid
[2017-01-24 18:50:21] wurstgelee : so?
[2017-01-24 18:52:02] airitout : wurstgelee: wont hurt your 500 trade order.. only for big boys
[2017-01-24 18:52:47] airitout : jk (k) :)
[2017-01-24 18:53:02] MikeHunt : getting raped $15 evry 8 hrs aint cool
[2017-01-24 18:53:08] Derreck : $15 discount WTF!
[2017-01-24 18:53:27] wurstgelee : not enough
[2017-01-24 18:53:34] wurstgelee : hina is >10$ lower
[2017-01-24 18:53:35] airitout : 250 at my end
[2017-01-24 18:53:37] wurstgelee : *c
[2017-01-24 18:54:10] Derreck : also Chinese volume is really small!
[2017-01-24 18:54:12] Noobz : @MikeHunt: @Derreck how did you plan saying that together?
[2017-01-24 18:56:21] Derreck : 0kcoin volume is like back to Sep 2015
[2017-01-24 18:58:20] MikeHunt : Noobz: telepathy
[2017-01-24 18:59:55] Noobz : lol
[2017-01-24 19:07:24] johndoe : is there an easy way to download historical .csv data for hourly bars of bitmex data, without using scripts?
[2017-01-24 19:08:03] Shaman : https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2017-01-24 19:09:11] johndoe : thx, but i mean hourly OHLC data for the btc swap or futures contract
[2017-01-24 19:09:52] Shaman : im guessing you would probably have to sort that out yourself, but could probably do it in a spreadsheet somehow
[2017-01-24 19:10:12] BitMEX_Sam : Go to https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/Trade/Trade_getBucketed and build your request
[2017-01-24 19:10:24] BitMEX_Sam : Then copy/paste the request and add `&_format=csv` to the end of it
[2017-01-24 19:11:07] johndoe : BitMEX_Sam: thanks man, appreciate it
[2017-01-24 19:18:59] bingbongfly : Hello, do anyone have any experience with unconfirmed deposits? I had too low of a fee by accident
[2017-01-24 19:19:30] bingbongfly : It's a deposit to this site, but my auto-fee on my new wallet was very low so it hasn't been confirmed for many hours
[2017-01-24 19:19:44] bingbongfly : will I get the chance to resend the transacttion?
[2017-01-24 19:21:40] Farzad : bingbongfly: I think you should wait for it to be confirmed
[2017-01-24 19:21:54] Farzad : or thrown out of mempool and then resend it
[2017-01-24 19:22:29] bingbongfly : Farzad: alright, yea I read some about it. Do you have any idea how long it will take give or take? Desperate for some more margin here hehe
[2017-01-24 19:22:51] Farzad : well it depends on the fee u paid
[2017-01-24 19:22:52] bingbongfly : to get thrown out
[2017-01-24 19:22:56] Farzad : may take up to 1 week !
[2017-01-24 19:22:57] bingbongfly : It's low, basically minimum
[2017-01-24 19:23:03] bingbongfly : alright.. thanks!
[2017-01-24 19:23:35] bingbongfly : There are reasons why BTC has a long way to go for mainstream adoption :/
[2017-01-24 19:23:37] Farzad : omg this backlog situation is only getting worse !
[2017-01-24 19:23:43] bingbongfly : yup
[2017-01-24 19:24:01] Farzad : 71K unconfirmed transactions now !
[2017-01-24 19:24:12] bingbongfly : wut? It was 60 about an hour ago
[2017-01-24 19:24:14] bingbongfly : last I checked
[2017-01-24 19:24:21] Farzad : check now, 71K
[2017-01-24 19:24:26] Farzad : it is getting worse
[2017-01-24 19:24:45] Farzad : hopefully it convinces miners to increase block size
[2017-01-24 19:25:36] Noobz : bingbongfly: next time, if you didn't already do check the needed fee here https://bitcoinfees.21.co/
[2017-01-24 19:26:05] bingbongfly : Noobz: thanks
[2017-01-24 19:28:42] bingbongfly : wait,
[2017-01-24 19:28:55] bingbongfly : according to this, my transaction shouldn't be a problem right?? I payed 0.00024970 btc
[2017-01-24 19:29:25] Noobz : check the tx on tradeblock you can see the sat/b
[2017-01-24 19:30:15] bingbongfly : wut?
[2017-01-24 19:30:58] Noobz : how many kb was your tx? depends on how many addresses used etc.
[2017-01-24 19:31:29] bingbongfly : https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/tx/bc987dfc2e3dfa9a422634d1d5d9380d00d21b44b0f4adc47220f5ef1520a3a9
[2017-01-24 19:31:32] bingbongfly : it's this transaction
[2017-01-24 19:32:03] bingbongfly : guess it should confirm in a couple of hours
[2017-01-24 19:32:15] Noobz : 132 sats per b yeah that should be fast
[2017-01-24 19:32:34] bingbongfly : I'm used to quicker, 3 hours is pretty much by how I use to set my fees
[2017-01-24 19:32:40] bingbongfly : thanks for your help
[2017-01-24 19:32:42] Noobz : but wait...
[2017-01-24 19:32:48] bingbongfly : ?! :S
[2017-01-24 19:33:07] Noobz : you see that incoming coin? that is unconfirmed
[2017-01-24 19:33:15] Noobz : with 26 sat/b
[2017-01-24 19:33:18] bingbongfly : Aha.. I see
[2017-01-24 19:33:42] bingbongfly : Weird
[2017-01-24 19:33:52] bingbongfly : So I just bought a new ledger nano S
[2017-01-24 19:33:59] bingbongfly : And sent a BTC to it a couple days ago
[2017-01-24 19:34:04] bingbongfly : it said it was confirmed on the app
[2017-01-24 19:34:11] bingbongfly : but I didnt bother to check the actual transaction
[2017-01-24 19:35:12] Noobz : yeah the unconfirmed tx is from jan 23rd, yesterday
[2017-01-24 19:35:50] Noobz : hope that your new tx pushes it through (Child pays for parent)
[2017-01-24 19:36:42] bingbongfly : Ah okey I see now
[2017-01-24 19:36:55] bingbongfly : but, if it doesn't, will it be send back to my original wallet?
[2017-01-24 19:37:26] bingbongfly : or is it stuck in limbo?! :S
[2017-01-24 19:37:45] Noobz : yeah if it is thrown out it is like it is never send
[2017-01-24 19:38:03] Noobz : just wait for the backlog it will be ok, slowly though
[2017-01-24 19:38:45] bingbongfly : okey, thanks. Yeah I guess I can wait, just a little worried when transactions go missing! I havn't wrapped my head around everything yet
[2017-01-24 19:38:48] bingbongfly : but I learned a lot from this
[2017-01-24 19:40:38] MikeHunt : 1hr RSI descending triangle?
[2017-01-24 19:42:36] MikeHunt : china volume down 60%
[2017-01-24 19:43:38] johndoe : i think its more than 60%
[2017-01-24 19:43:51] johndoe : https://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/volume/6h?c=e&r=hour&t=bar
[2017-01-24 19:44:48] MikeHunt : johndoe: im just going by https://exchangewar.info/
[2017-01-24 19:45:04] MikeHunt : was ~285k, down to 115k
[2017-01-24 19:45:28] MikeHunt : wouldnt be suprised if by 4am today it drops even further
[2017-01-24 19:45:34] MikeHunt : tomorrow*
[2017-01-24 19:45:40] johndoe : btcc/ok-coin/hu0bi went from 90% of global volume to about 30% roughly
[2017-01-24 19:46:08] MikeHunt : i think coindesk said real volume was between 50-85%
[2017-01-24 19:46:48] MikeHunt : that was before the big raping from drop at 8888 iirc thou
[2017-01-24 19:48:35] -_- : no one wants to move the price
[2017-01-24 19:48:44] -_- : nor make a splash in an altcoin
[2017-01-24 19:50:20] MikeHunt : -_-: looks like its slowly going down
[2017-01-24 19:50:37] MikeHunt : if it completes descending triangle then i think we'll see a move
[2017-01-24 19:52:26] -_- : gotta wait for china to wake up.
[2017-01-24 19:57:56] Derreck : 0kcoin is 6300, bitmex is still 6210
[2017-01-24 19:58:10] narnarfromnarnia : funding in 2min
[2017-01-24 19:58:13] narnarfromnarnia : then what happens?
[2017-01-24 19:58:32] MikeHunt : get raped $15
[2017-01-24 19:58:40] narnarfromnarnia : MikeHunt: from quick dump?
[2017-01-24 19:58:43] narnarfromnarnia : or what
[2017-01-24 19:58:52] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: i think it will be a long slow decline
[2017-01-24 19:58:55] narnarfromnarnia : what will i get with a 20btc
[2017-01-24 19:58:59] narnarfromnarnia : holding i wonder
[2017-01-24 19:59:02] narnarfromnarnia : long
[2017-01-24 19:59:04] MikeHunt : maybe a few moves on major pattern completitions
[2017-01-24 19:59:13] Noobz : a headache
[2017-01-24 19:59:18] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: 0.0056
[2017-01-24 19:59:34] MikeHunt : $50.62
[2017-01-24 20:00:38] MikeHunt : im a dumbass, i should have just gone stamp earlier
[2017-01-24 20:00:47] MikeHunt : or krapen
[2017-01-24 20:02:04] airitout : MikeHunt: i told you to go long
[2017-01-24 20:02:20] airitout : +0.2450
[2017-01-24 20:03:15] MikeHunt : i might go finex instead
[2017-01-24 20:03:17] MikeHunt : fees arent too bad
[2017-01-24 20:03:23] MikeHunt : can do margin funding there as well
[2017-01-24 20:03:25] Tetsuo : plz do that
[2017-01-24 20:06:13] airitout : long it till 910 atleast
[2017-01-24 20:06:20] sleger : I paid 3.6btc over the past 2 fundings, dont complain for 50 bucks....
[2017-01-24 20:06:29] narnarfromnarnia : lol thanks sleger
[2017-01-24 20:07:04] MikeHunt : sledger going short? hell really has frozen over...
[2017-01-24 20:07:29] sleger : I am net long overall
[2017-01-24 20:07:40] arbitrage101 : there are cheaper place to hedge/short
[2017-01-24 20:07:40] sleger : and still no d in my username
[2017-01-24 20:07:49] sleger : arbitrage101: where ?
[2017-01-24 20:07:50] MikeHunt : typo
[2017-01-24 20:07:58] arbitrage101 : sleger: finex ..
[2017-01-24 20:08:07] MikeHunt : re finex: "Because of the Chinese New Year festivities in Taiwan our banks will be closed from Friday 27 January to Wednesday 1 February."
[2017-01-24 20:08:13] sleger : arbitrage101: cheaper as in you only risk losing all your capital ?
[2017-01-24 20:08:31] arbitrage101 : they handle the theft pretty well
[2017-01-24 20:08:42] arbitrage101 : token now worth .68
[2017-01-24 20:08:51] arbitrage101 : wish i didnt sell at .5
[2017-01-24 20:08:51] sleger : arbitrage101: only takes one investor bringing the suit far enough to have everything frozen there
[2017-01-24 20:08:58] airitout : i am good here
[2017-01-24 20:09:21] MikeHunt : kraken might be an alternative
[2017-01-24 20:09:23] MikeHunt : xbt/eur
[2017-01-24 20:09:27] MikeHunt : 0.16% maker fee
[2017-01-24 20:09:33] MikeHunt : they have 5x margin as well
[2017-01-24 20:09:43] sleger : yes that might be ok-ish
[2017-01-24 20:09:51] sleger : not sure for larger positions though
[2017-01-24 20:10:04] johndoe : bfx f'd up so majorly on that hack. Crazy stupid security. Unforgivable. They had years to get their security right and yet they f'd it all up. They just got lucky so many people had USD balances on there.
[2017-01-24 20:10:11] cz9emcu : finex are amateurs. only a matter of time before another hack.
[2017-01-24 20:10:12] knikky : goddamn funding took 6%
[2017-01-24 20:10:15] knikky : ?
[2017-01-24 20:10:41] airitout : 0.28 of total contract value
[2017-01-24 20:11:02] airitout : %
[2017-01-24 20:11:06] REKT : Liquidated short on `ETH7D`: buy 100 @ 0.011790
[2017-01-24 20:11:10] MikeHunt : shame that almost every single exchange has to have a fucking problem with it
[2017-01-24 20:11:56] BitMEX_Sam : If the funding is an issue, trade futures
[2017-01-24 20:12:00] knikky : i guess i'll start looking elsewhere
[2017-01-24 20:12:18] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Sam: with a negative h17 prem, not a great alternative atm