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[2017-01-24 13:07:36] aethlios : after 400 we go 3,000 in 2 years, with new exchanges west based.
[2017-01-24 13:07:49] aethlios : less manipulation, more transparency.
[2017-01-24 13:08:01] VenCap : agreed, this is good long term for bitcoin, really good
[2017-01-24 13:08:07] l3f : "less mainpulation" hahahah hahaha hahah
[2017-01-24 13:08:08] l3f : hahah
[2017-01-24 13:08:10] l3f : hahahahahahah
[2017-01-24 13:08:11] l3f : hahahahahahah
[2017-01-24 13:08:12] VenCap : get the stock exchange, wall street boys in on the action
[2017-01-24 13:08:23] VenCap : they dont know how to manipulate
[2017-01-24 13:08:24] aethlios : or the same manipulation (they are in every country) but more transparency.
[2017-01-24 13:08:25] VenCap : :OD
[2017-01-24 13:08:36] VenCap : but yeah. will be very gdo for BTC
[2017-01-24 13:12:38] aethlios : l3f: do you see segwit adopted? or btc could fork, fork crisis and china fees are enough for 200 to 400
[2017-01-24 13:12:57] VenCap : 200 would probally kill BTC
[2017-01-24 13:13:01] VenCap : 400 would be crisis
[2017-01-24 13:13:20] l3f : aethlios: segwith needs 95%+ so probably no unless they start making some compromises
[2017-01-24 13:13:30] l3f : most likely no*
[2017-01-24 13:13:34] narnarfromnarnia : they are dumping it to close out shorts
[2017-01-24 13:13:37] l3f : the BU people are gaining already
[2017-01-24 13:13:46] narnarfromnarnia : short contracts are reducing based on that reddit post
[2017-01-24 13:13:57] rapidtrades : if the BU ppl win bitcorns is truly ded
[2017-01-24 13:13:59] rapidtrades : for real ded
[2017-01-24 13:14:14] l3f : rapidtrades: I never believe in bitcoin anyway
[2017-01-24 13:14:25] aethlios : we will have 2 bitcoins, a civil war will start.
[2017-01-24 13:14:53] VenCap : a new coin has to emerge
[2017-01-24 13:14:53] aethlios : double the spot and the futures.
[2017-01-24 13:15:17] VenCap : look at AOL today
[2017-01-24 13:15:19] Apocalyptic : BU people are winning ? lol
[2017-01-24 13:16:26] airitout : doos?
[2017-01-24 13:16:34] airitout : ddos?
[2017-01-24 13:16:42] aethlios : segwit now 25%
[2017-01-24 13:17:46] l3f : https://coin.dance/blocks
[2017-01-24 13:17:50] l3f : oh wow I thought BU was winning
[2017-01-24 13:17:51] l3f : apparently not
[2017-01-24 13:18:49] l3f : But there's now enough BU to block segwit entirely
[2017-01-24 13:20:26] VenCap : Arise Chickun/Rooster
[2017-01-24 13:25:46] rapidtrades : the next dump will take us below 850
[2017-01-24 13:26:05] l3f : rapidtrades: you've been waiting for this for how long now?
[2017-01-24 13:26:36] VenCap : below 850 ouch
[2017-01-24 13:27:18] l3f : VenCap: He was a bear before Satoshi mined the first block
[2017-01-24 13:27:28] l3f : His target is zero
[2017-01-24 13:27:41] VenCap : lols
[2017-01-24 13:28:01] VenCap : rapidtrades: You like Porridge Bro?
[2017-01-24 13:28:13] VenCap : Women with Golden Locks?
[2017-01-24 13:30:27] VenCap : Do you poop in woods?
[2017-01-24 13:30:29] VenCap : :OD
[2017-01-24 13:31:02] rapidtrades : describes me exactly
[2017-01-24 13:31:10] rapidtrades : ARE U A PSYCHIC?
[2017-01-24 13:32:48] VenCap : Is that the movie starring Norman Bates?
[2017-01-24 13:37:49] rapidtrades : don't fight guys
[2017-01-24 13:38:22] VenCap : yeah, just let it happen. Take this lube... wont hrt so much :P
[2017-01-24 13:52:31] VenCap : not long now
[2017-01-24 13:53:50] FreeBitcoins : if it breaks under 900 on this line it will be the beginning of the biggest red candle we have seen for some time
[2017-01-24 13:55:30] FreeBitcoins : not bitmex price but combined index and CNY 6200 critical
[2017-01-24 13:58:50] bingbongfly : damn what a rally this has been
[2017-01-24 13:59:08] bingbongfly : I remember buying BTC for 200$ not too long ago
[2017-01-24 13:59:30] bingbongfly : Just last summer I snagged some for 400$
[2017-01-24 14:01:56] VenCap : could break 6200 today
[2017-01-24 14:02:29] VenCap : looks like 1 person tryin to hold 6250
[2017-01-24 14:02:32] VenCap : not gonna happen
[2017-01-24 14:05:28] FreeBitcoins : if it breaks 6200 on this line then I will get cold feet about my cold storage
[2017-01-24 14:06:13] VenCap : well 6250 trying to hold back a army it seems
[2017-01-24 14:06:16] bingbongfly : FreeBitcoins: what's your entry price?
[2017-01-24 14:06:28] VenCap : like sticking thumb in a hole in huge dam
[2017-01-24 14:06:29] bingbongfly : FreeBitcoins: your cold storage must have been bought recently
[2017-01-24 14:06:43] bingbongfly : FreeBitcoins: I can't lose on my cold storage, feels good man :D
[2017-01-24 14:07:56] FreeBitcoins : bingbongfly: old school but dont matter. If I know 500-600 can be on the cards thats many dollars
[2017-01-24 14:09:34] bingbongfly : FreeBitcoins: true true, that's why I trade as well
[2017-01-24 14:09:51] bingbongfly : I could never sit by and watch my capital lose so much
[2017-01-24 14:10:01] bingbongfly : but I dont want to send my cold storage around
[2017-01-24 14:10:06] bingbongfly : so I rather short and hedge
[2017-01-24 14:10:12] bingbongfly : and try to play the waves with a trading stack
[2017-01-24 14:14:25] rustiv : what coins are the people here holding (mid-long term)?
[2017-01-24 14:14:36] rapidtrades : http://www.coindesk.com/press-releases/press-release-deribit-options-future-exchange-announces-quarterly-future-rebate-makers/
[2017-01-24 14:14:37] rustiv : I bet on $STRAT $ANS $WAVES $VTR $ETC $XMR $ZEC
[2017-01-24 14:16:38] VenCap : $STRAT is the only one you need there.
[2017-01-24 14:16:57] VenCap : $waves go for 40-50k tops in a months or two. then back to 20k rinse and repat. bad coin
[2017-01-24 14:18:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5000 @ 899.91
[2017-01-24 14:19:35] VenCap : OKCOin here have some more money to throw on fire
[2017-01-24 14:20:24] sleger : rapidtrades: have you traded there ?
[2017-01-24 14:20:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 12000 @ 897.76
[2017-01-24 14:21:21] FreeBitcoins : fuark this is very dangerous here
[2017-01-24 14:22:15] VenCap : yeah... like watching house fire
[2017-01-24 14:23:27] sleger : buy when others are fearful he said
[2017-01-24 14:24:14] VenCap : hes dead now
[2017-01-24 14:25:45] Ahhere : rustiv: xmr, eth, aeon, siacoin
[2017-01-24 14:27:06] Ahhere : Last two are long shots obviously esp siacoin
[2017-01-24 14:27:16] Ahhere : aeon has same team as monero
[2017-01-24 14:27:20] Ahhere : its for mobile
[2017-01-24 14:30:11] VenCap : cny just give up the ghost already
[2017-01-24 14:31:11] VenCap : i've seen toy armies with better defenses
[2017-01-24 14:37:20] MikeHunt : getting raped with funding isnt fun
[2017-01-24 14:38:10] rapidtrades : aethlios: card doesn't work they say :( its cos I said its working great yesterday
[2017-01-24 14:39:02] VenCap : yeah agree, crazy Mike Hunt. Funding jsut wrong
[2017-01-24 14:39:10] VenCap : will always make sureBitmex does not grow big
[2017-01-24 14:40:26] MikeHunt : if this is still here tomoz im going to another exchange
[2017-01-24 14:40:39] MikeHunt : 0.34% in 13 hrs :O
[2017-01-24 14:40:45] aethlios : Unplanned maintenance for Named cards until Tuesday, 23 January 13:30 UTC. Transaction declines are possible.
[2017-01-24 14:41:14] VenCap : just over 5hrs
[2017-01-24 14:41:18] VenCap : 0.29%
[2017-01-24 14:41:45] VenCap : for what exactly. how much goes to Bitmex? 50%?
[2017-01-24 14:41:54] BitMEX_Sam : None of it goes to us.
[2017-01-24 14:41:58] airitout : they only charge funding rate when you have an open position at that time, right?
[2017-01-24 14:42:12] BitMEX_Sam : https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#Funding
[2017-01-24 14:42:13] MikeHunt : airitout: yup
[2017-01-24 14:42:15] aethlios : airitout: right
[2017-01-24 14:42:19] VenCap : well if that is the case, do away with it compeltely.
[2017-01-24 14:42:28] VenCap : what is the point of it?
[2017-01-24 14:42:35] VenCap : giving crumbs back to people who loose a lot
[2017-01-24 14:42:46] BitMEX_Sam : A derivative without a settlement has no reason to trade at the spot price
[2017-01-24 14:42:51] BitMEX_Sam : The funding tethers the price.
[2017-01-24 14:43:00] VenCap : funding tethers the price ?
[2017-01-24 14:43:08] BitMEX_Sam : Please read the above guide
[2017-01-24 14:43:30] VenCap : thank you Sam.
[2017-01-24 14:43:35] BitMEX_Sam : From the beginning would likely be most useful. These mechanics exist for a reason. :)
[2017-01-24 14:43:41] VenCap : but you would be better off here not having it.
[2017-01-24 14:43:46] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Sam: issue is there doesnt seem to be a way to safely store value (fiat) on this exchange
[2017-01-24 14:43:50] VenCap : youd keep many more customers
[2017-01-24 14:44:15] VenCap : easily sneak the fee into buying selling fees
[2017-01-24 14:44:24] VenCap : people wont notice so much then
[2017-01-24 14:44:32] VenCap : like "Free Postsage"
[2017-01-24 14:45:38] airitout : if they would offer tether coin
[2017-01-24 14:51:56] -_- : 9.5 million contracts open on xbt swap and quarterly. epic rekts incoming.
[2017-01-24 14:53:32] VenCap : Epic....
[2017-01-24 14:57:28] VenCap : they are putting up brave fight, i am sure the funding will compensate for the epic day they will have
[2017-01-24 14:58:08] rapidtrades : march at 887, swap at 900 this is some major stupidty at play here
[2017-01-24 14:58:33] arbitrage101 : Market price is usually rational
[2017-01-24 14:58:42] arbitrage101 : people who think otherwise may not
[2017-01-24 15:00:42] -_- : 0kcoin futures $880 quarterly
[2017-01-24 15:02:17] Noobz : where's my sub 6k?
[2017-01-24 15:04:47] VenCap : wheres my Butler..... Alfred?
[2017-01-24 15:05:48] Noobz : a sub can be a kind of butler too xD
[2017-01-24 15:07:24] VenCap : a "sub-servient" :OD
[2017-01-24 15:24:36] -_- : china trying to dump
[2017-01-24 15:29:51] bingbongfly : we gonna have a massive shortsqueeze when the bearwhale goes down
[2017-01-24 15:29:56] bingbongfly : wonder when
[2017-01-24 15:30:13] -_- : price will need to shoot over $1000 i bet
[2017-01-24 15:30:27] -_- : they held on when price at 960
[2017-01-24 15:30:54] -_- : i think we have a better chance at dumping
[2017-01-24 15:31:30] -_- : dump to low 4000's to complete the head of the inverse head and shoulders
[2017-01-24 15:31:42] -_- : like 4200 CNY
[2017-01-24 15:32:21] -_- : so $600 most exchanges. xbth17 like $530 i bet
[2017-01-24 15:32:41] -_- : $350 dump incoming. most shorts get ADL i bet
[2017-01-24 15:33:16] MikeHunt : the failure of the china pump moves the mean down
[2017-01-24 15:33:19] MikeHunt : ill do some paintings
[2017-01-24 15:36:27] MikeHunt : http://i.imgur.com/1tvTYYe.png
[2017-01-24 15:38:46] -_- : i like that MikeHunt. the fake volume started and then btc took off
[2017-01-24 15:38:57] -_- : so it could fall all the way back down there
[2017-01-24 15:39:50] MikeHunt : yeh, so i might leave here for a while, negative funding for what could be a few weeks/months dont sound too fun
[2017-01-24 15:45:43] VenCap : the guy at 6250 cny must have a lot of bitcoin
[2017-01-24 15:45:51] VenCap : its being well defended but toally futile
[2017-01-24 15:47:37] johndoe : interesting that almost all of the USD exchanges are so close in price, even BTC-E
[2017-01-24 15:48:18] VenCap : "We all Fall Together"
[2017-01-24 15:58:22] -_- : watching the charts is so boring now. need to find a new hobby
[2017-01-24 15:59:54] VenCap : How does this 6250 at OKCoin not get smashed?
[2017-01-24 16:00:04] johndoe : seriously. no margin+no fees = no liquidity. :(
[2017-01-24 16:00:18] johndoe : err, with fees i mean
[2017-01-24 16:00:29] VenCap : it wont stop them trading. they are hooked
[2017-01-24 16:00:33] VenCap : fees are fees.
[2017-01-24 16:00:44] VenCap : most have so much cash a feew fees wont matter
[2017-01-24 16:01:11] johndoe : i imagine some, especially HFT will have to come to bitmex. Lower fees, especially maker fees and massive leverage allowed.
[2017-01-24 16:01:38] -_- : maybe
[2017-01-24 16:01:47] johndoe : looks BTCC is about the same liquidity as bitstamp or finex roughly
[2017-01-24 16:01:49] -_- : 6250 gone
[2017-01-24 16:02:38] johndoe : 6250 held
[2017-01-24 16:02:40] VenCap : 53btc stil lleft
[2017-01-24 16:02:40] abbey : lol
[2017-01-24 16:02:43] VenCap : for now
[2017-01-24 16:02:45] -_- : 2.8btc left
[2017-01-24 16:02:47] VenCap : stubborn bull
[2017-01-24 16:03:06] -_- : 49.68 btc dumped into it
[2017-01-24 16:03:14] -_- : i think china would be more eager to sell
[2017-01-24 16:03:24] VenCap : https://cryptowat.ch/okcoin/btccny/15m
[2017-01-24 16:03:33] VenCap : let see what happens
[2017-01-24 16:03:48] VenCap : its like "hey i broke the wall" Err.. what do we do now
[2017-01-24 16:04:11] VenCap : "wait for new wall to smash"
[2017-01-24 16:04:17] VenCap : "really finish them off"
[2017-01-24 16:04:20] -_- : see how many bots keep putting up buy walls on the way down . 296 BTC till 6200 now
[2017-01-24 16:05:01] -_- : i'm gonna go shower. watch something happens as soon as i get in
[2017-01-24 16:05:30] VenCap : i jsut had shower! thought the same thing
[2017-01-24 16:05:38] VenCap : all that happened was i came out cleaner
[2017-01-24 16:06:50] -_- : Big spread means 20 cny swings
[2017-01-24 16:07:22] VenCap : has okcoin broken.. its mexican stand off
[2017-01-24 16:07:41] johndoe : looks like bitmex isn't even following hu0bi or ok-coin anymore on USD
[2017-01-24 16:07:50] johndoe : on swap i mean
[2017-01-24 16:08:08] VenCap : Bots have taken over.
[2017-01-24 16:10:46] johndoe : exchanges aren't even tracking each other :( half are moving up and half trending down on 5m charts
[2017-01-24 16:11:48] herpinator : this is weird
[2017-01-24 16:13:43] abbey : nice
[2017-01-24 16:14:55] VenCap : this is odd.. like feels liek a big trap odd
[2017-01-24 16:15:13] Teddy76 : we need a new leader
[2017-01-24 16:15:28] VenCap : Darth Vader would be useful
[2017-01-24 16:15:34] MikeHunt : from what i can see
[2017-01-24 16:15:41] abbey : epic rekts incoming boys
[2017-01-24 16:15:41] MikeHunt : in 2013 when they reintroduced fees
[2017-01-24 16:15:45] VenCap : ok. going out. sod it.
[2017-01-24 16:15:46] MikeHunt : it took a while to set in
[2017-01-24 16:15:51] VenCap : abbey: if you long :P
[2017-01-24 16:17:05] abbey : i never rekt
[2017-01-24 16:17:19] -_- : Pumping
[2017-01-24 16:17:46] MikeHunt : 2013... http://i.imgur.com/ghRlCye.png
[2017-01-24 16:18:04] -_- : Xbth17 randomly pumping a lot
[2017-01-24 16:18:36] VenCap : i am shorting this at 920 with everything i have
[2017-01-24 16:19:02] bingbongfly : finally
[2017-01-24 16:19:04] bingbongfly : let me out of my long
[2017-01-24 16:19:04] abbey : weeeeee
[2017-01-24 16:19:05] bingbongfly : i'm dying
[2017-01-24 16:19:10] bingbongfly : pls XBTH
[2017-01-24 16:19:19] -_- : Lol then xbth17 randomly drops $5 so unpredictable
[2017-01-24 16:19:32] bingbongfly : -_-: not really, I wanted to get out of my long
[2017-01-24 16:19:44] bingbongfly : -_-: probably lots of underwater longs
[2017-01-24 16:19:55] bingbongfly : which means it's just chop chop city
[2017-01-24 16:19:59] MikeHunt : some guy here is still stuck at 1100 lol
[2017-01-24 16:20:06] -_- : I shorted 888 closed at 895 and a second later it's at 890. Wat
[2017-01-24 16:20:09] MikeHunt : if it falls bellow ~600 hes fucked
[2017-01-24 16:20:24] bingbongfly : MikeHunt: oh yeah
[2017-01-24 16:24:24] abbey : the bull is strong
[2017-01-24 16:25:51] abbey : don't fight back, just let it go, less pain
[2017-01-24 16:27:29] abbey : forget about those audi dreams, reality check
[2017-01-24 16:30:57] airitout : abbey: lol
[2017-01-24 16:33:01] Papou : bull has no juice
[2017-01-24 16:33:10] Papou : no more money to prop this up
[2017-01-24 16:33:32] Papou : on the way to hong kong boys to watch the fireworks with bobby lee
[2017-01-24 16:33:44] abbey : just look at it go
[2017-01-24 16:33:54] Papou : ok coin #1 holder is all long, hes been buying it all up thinking bitcoin moons
[2017-01-24 16:33:58] Papou : hes about to get liquidated
[2017-01-24 16:34:04] Papou : 40,000 btc market sell
[2017-01-24 16:35:08] KyllingLolsson : Bitcoin is not juiced up ryt now
[2017-01-24 16:37:16] bingbongfly : Papou: no he is short and long
[2017-01-24 16:38:17] bingbongfly : ok coin #1 holder is most probably both short and long, but mostly short I think. He has been getting squeezed lately, we'll see what happens
[2017-01-24 16:40:49] Papou : lol no
[2017-01-24 16:40:58] Papou : also #2 and 3 reduced positons by a lot
[2017-01-24 16:41:03] airitout : Papou: where do you get this info?
[2017-01-24 16:41:08] herpinator : the bogdanovs are in charge
[2017-01-24 16:41:12] Papou : insiders
[2017-01-24 16:41:19] Papou : everyone thought bitcoin will moon they said :(
[2017-01-24 16:41:33] abbey : lol, papou indicator bullish as f*ck
[2017-01-24 16:41:53] Papou : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-19/chinese-investors-exit-bitcoin-flood-gold-etfs
[2017-01-24 16:41:54] airitout : Papou: how do you know that someone in okcoin is 40k long?
[2017-01-24 16:42:07] Papou : airitout who do u think pumped the price
[2017-01-24 16:42:15] Papou : normal average joes?
[2017-01-24 16:42:32] airitout : just answer the question kid
[2017-01-24 16:42:44] Papou : i have info dont worry
[2017-01-24 16:42:47] Papou : but also
[2017-01-24 16:42:48] Papou : https://www.okcoin.com/future/futureTop.do?type=1&symbol=0
[2017-01-24 16:42:52] airitout : lol
[2017-01-24 16:42:58] Papou : LOL shorts not even open yet
[2017-01-24 16:43:08] Papou : what u think happens when 50%+ go short from 30%
[2017-01-24 16:43:10] Papou : game over
[2017-01-24 16:43:42] airitout : papou gekko. has all the inside information
[2017-01-24 16:44:09] -_- : 6275 and 6280 and then 6298 are the only spots with walls on 0kcoin
[2017-01-24 16:45:20] Rado : Poopoo the game is never over
[2017-01-24 16:45:23] thomaskikansha : swap trading above index :o
[2017-01-24 16:47:07] bingbongfly : shorts starting to sweat, even a premium on swap lol
[2017-01-24 16:47:23] bingbongfly : wish I didnt close half my long so soon, poor trading this week
[2017-01-24 16:52:10] -_- : 0kcoin can be at 6300 in a second
[2017-01-24 16:52:54] -_- : dont know why MM is pushing xbth17 down still
[2017-01-24 16:53:45] Rado : -_-: MM is not pushing anything
[2017-01-24 16:53:50] Rado : if you understand what an MM is
[2017-01-24 16:54:03] -_- : see 6299
[2017-01-24 16:54:19] -_- : the market maker with his 15k walls were at 895 and then a minute later 891
[2017-01-24 16:54:23] -_- : and price is going up everywhere else
[2017-01-24 16:55:05] -_- : oh well. everything is out of wack. dont even know why i'm trying to trade this
[2017-01-24 16:56:10] herpinator : I feel the same with no clear market leader
[2017-01-24 16:56:54] MikeHunt : you guys have played rome total war? what happens wen ur leader dies in battle?
[2017-01-24 16:57:56] Tetsuo : he´s dead?
[2017-01-24 16:58:05] knikky : RUN AWAY
[2017-01-24 16:58:15] Noobz : you get his girl?
[2017-01-24 16:58:30] MikeHunt : knikky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FPELc1wEvk
[2017-01-24 16:58:33] knikky : MikeHunt: didn't quite tap 950 like you said but the multi-day prediction so far has been pretty good
[2017-01-24 16:58:44] johndoe : so strange that CNY exchanges are not leading bitmex price. Gotta rethink my whole strategy
[2017-01-24 16:59:06] MikeHunt : knikky: well china kinda ruined that :/
[2017-01-24 16:59:33] johndoe : does anyone have link to current kaiko index that bitmex uses? it still just about half stamp, half ok-coin?
[2017-01-24 16:59:46] airitout : Rado, i haven't familiarize myself with trading bots. I saw that you are using. iam looking for one in the forex market, do you have any advice where to look or start?
[2017-01-24 16:59:53] knikky : yeah but it was within a few dollars and if this support breaks it's crashing pretty hard it seems
[2017-01-24 17:00:11] MikeHunt : airitout: github
[2017-01-24 17:00:13] Tetsuo : johndoe: quarterlys in here mostly follow the movement of okc quarterlys
[2017-01-24 17:00:46] MikeHunt : only western exchange with no fees now is coinfloor iirc
[2017-01-24 17:00:49] johndoe : Tetsuo: ok that makes sense, but i was mostly refering to the swap
[2017-01-24 17:03:07] MikeHunt : swap mark is unnervingly flat
[2017-01-24 17:21:55] -_- : 6240 to 6318 is empty on 0kcoin order book lolol
[2017-01-24 17:22:44] -_- : it seems just 1 trader is trying to get in or close out a short. once they are done then who knows what'll happen
[2017-01-24 17:29:39] -_- : ah 99 btc buy wall put up. 62 btc left of it now
[2017-01-24 17:29:40] -_- : 51
[2017-01-24 17:29:45] -_- : 45. sell sell sell
[2017-01-24 17:37:23] abbey : nom nom nom
[2017-01-24 17:48:25] Tetsuo : https://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/tradespm/24h?c=e&r=hour&t=ae byebye china dominance
[2017-01-24 17:49:25] VenCap : abbey: wanna share that Chocolate ?
[2017-01-24 17:49:57] airitout : Tetsuo: what time graph you checking?/
[2017-01-24 17:50:39] Tetsuo : 24h, so that u can clearly see the no fees/fees effect kickin in
[2017-01-24 17:51:03] airitout : china has 90% @ 24
[2017-01-24 17:51:54] Tetsuo : what? west combined has >50% now according to the graph?
[2017-01-24 17:53:10] airitout : choose all currencies and youll see that okcoin alone has 84%
[2017-01-24 17:53:17] herpinator : that site needs to list bitmex :p
[2017-01-24 17:53:22] Tetsuo : http://www.pic-upload.de/view-32549177/volume.jpg.html
[2017-01-24 17:53:27] abbey : VenCap: :) nope, i think this is mine
[2017-01-24 17:53:36] Tetsuo : this graph is with all currencies?
[2017-01-24 17:54:06] VenCap : Sharing is Caring :O)
[2017-01-24 17:54:56] abbey : I know, you can take the rest
[2017-01-24 17:55:31] airitout : Tetsuo: ok coin has 89% at yours as well.. what are you talkbout the west having 30?
[2017-01-24 17:55:57] Tetsuo : move your mouse at the x-axis to the point at 17:00
[2017-01-24 17:56:45] wurstgelee : okcoin doing almost 2 btc vol/min atm
[2017-01-24 17:56:46] wurstgelee : wow
[2017-01-24 17:56:48] wurstgelee : 8)
[2017-01-24 17:56:57] Papou : i think chinese are planning an exit strategy
[2017-01-24 17:56:58] Tetsuo : that´s how market leaders roll
[2017-01-24 17:57:02] Papou : because they know they cant all sell at once now
[2017-01-24 17:57:25] wurstgelee : chinese dont plan to exit. wyhy would they?
[2017-01-24 17:57:28] wurstgelee : *why
[2017-01-24 17:57:35] airitout : its 2am in china ofcourse volume is low now at their exchanges
[2017-01-24 17:57:40] Tetsuo : Papou is retarded, that´s all
[2017-01-24 17:57:49] wurstgelee : airitout: no. bots are turned off and fees were introduced
[2017-01-24 17:57:50] wurstgelee : thats y
[2017-01-24 17:58:58] Tetsuo : okc´s own bot is sittin in the corner and cryin
[2017-01-24 17:59:02] VenCap : nom nom... red candle chocolate my favourite :O)
[2017-01-24 17:59:13] VenCap : right off to watch Series. Later all. Be Lucky.
[2017-01-24 17:59:17] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: probably binge drinking with willy
[2017-01-24 17:59:17] Noobz : Tetsuo: he is losing his religion
[2017-01-24 17:59:26] Tetsuo : wurstgelee: lol
[2017-01-24 17:59:28] VenCap : Donteat that Green Candle choclolate! its posion.
[2017-01-24 18:00:10] VenCap : Papou: Chinese Exit strategy no.24
[2017-01-24 18:01:01] wurstgelee : i like how okc makes 20 CNY moves on 1 btc volume now
[2017-01-24 18:01:02] wurstgelee : :p
[2017-01-24 18:01:13] wurstgelee : thats almost as bad as bitstamp...
[2017-01-24 18:02:30] johndoe : hopefully some of the exchanges will consolidate or something. this is kinda embarrassing.
[2017-01-24 18:08:59] airitout : this is boring
[2017-01-24 18:10:00] -_- : and will be for a while
[2017-01-24 18:10:09] -_- : gotta eat up that supply then we go up
[2017-01-24 18:10:47] charlyko : pump incoming
[2017-01-24 18:13:01] wurstgelee : charlyko: curiosity makes me ask this: y?
[2017-01-24 18:14:19] johndoe : swap sure is holding strong
[2017-01-24 18:14:40] wurstgelee : swap is holding nothing, its following spot ;)
[2017-01-24 18:15:27] wurstgelee : but nothing what we do here has any influence on the spot price of btc.
[2017-01-24 18:15:32] wurstgelee : one way only
[2017-01-24 18:15:56] Tetsuo : if this continues for more than a week than i assume the west might take the lead for a while
[2017-01-24 18:16:31] Tetsuo : okkoin is nothing more than a clown car right now
[2017-01-24 18:16:32] wurstgelee : yeah, probably
[2017-01-24 18:16:45] wurstgelee : that. or boredom and altsareback
[2017-01-24 18:17:20] Tetsuo : would also be fine for me
[2017-01-24 18:17:30] wurstgelee : yep,, has been a while
[2017-01-24 18:17:41] wurstgelee : maybe fab to march, btc again starting april
[2017-01-24 18:17:44] wurstgelee : that would be niuce
[2017-01-24 18:17:48] wurstgelee : nice
[2017-01-24 18:19:06] johndoe : amazing. PBoC kills bitcoin by mandating boredom :)
[2017-01-24 18:19:25] herpinator : no fun allowed
[2017-01-24 18:19:30] herpinator : ;_;
[2017-01-24 18:20:20] Tetsuo : 40cny move within 1 second... and no one cares
[2017-01-24 18:20:40] Tetsuo : 19:20:03 6260.1 0.109 19:20:02 6299.1 0.93
[2017-01-24 18:20:47] MikeHunt : i expect this will slowly decline until a whale gives up patience and dumps
[2017-01-24 18:20:54] -_- : what are you suppose to do
[2017-01-24 18:21:24] -_- : quarterly here isnt going to move $7 every other second
[2017-01-24 18:21:36] johndoe : 0.2% is a really high fee. Especially compared to 0%...
[2017-01-24 18:21:42] johndoe : should've went with 0.1
[2017-01-24 18:22:07] -_- : yeah. people will be paying hundreds or thousands of dollars in fees in china
[2017-01-24 18:22:15] -_- : to pump or dump the price
[2017-01-24 18:22:55] johndoe : well, keep in mind that it will be a lot easier to pump or dump price, since there is such low liquidity - at least in the short-term
[2017-01-24 18:23:29] -_- : true. remove orders and pump or dump. but will other exchanges follow
[2017-01-24 18:23:32] johndoe : it would be great if USD exchanges start dominating again.
[2017-01-24 18:24:14] -_- : china still $7-$10 ahead of other exchanges
[2017-01-24 18:24:25] Tetsuo : no
[2017-01-24 18:25:41] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: that 40 cny move in a sec happened on less than 10 btc
[2017-01-24 18:25:45] wurstgelee : thats how bad it is atm ;)
[2017-01-24 18:25:55] charlyko : I hace choyna
[2017-01-24 18:25:59] charlyko : hate*
[2017-01-24 18:26:01] MikeHunt : the new mean has shifted downwards so that should put negative pressure on the price
[2017-01-24 18:26:45] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: lots of potential black swan events currently.
[2017-01-24 18:27:09] wurstgelee : turmp every day for the next 4 years. france and germany elections. uk/brexit. ....
[2017-01-24 18:27:16] wurstgelee : plus the usual stock crash scenario
[2017-01-24 18:28:01] wurstgelee : any of those would give btc a big push. so even short is risky imo
[2017-01-24 18:28:02] MikeHunt : yup, also what should be good for bitcoin can be bad, bank failures can affect exchanges
[2017-01-24 18:28:32] wurstgelee : thats rather unlikely
[2017-01-24 18:28:38] wurstgelee : but yes
[2017-01-24 18:37:50] cz9emcu : you might see btc go down initially during a GFC as people get margin calls elsewhere. Then btc would decouple and head higher as it doesn't have counterparty risk (except exchange wallets)
[2017-01-24 18:39:19] cz9emcu : Personally, I'd let my other accounts burn before I sell my btc
[2017-01-24 18:39:54] MikeHunt : wurstgelee: i checked the bank behind bitfinex, not very stable
[2017-01-24 18:40:05] MikeHunt : bitstamps bank is linked to unicredito
[2017-01-24 18:47:05] airitout : all open short positions will be charged for funding rates @9PM GMT+1, if you close position before that you wont be charged
[2017-01-24 18:47:19] airitout : if you have a long position you will get paid
[2017-01-24 18:50:21] wurstgelee : so?
[2017-01-24 18:52:02] airitout : wurstgelee: wont hurt your 500 trade order.. only for big boys
[2017-01-24 18:52:47] airitout : jk (k) :)
[2017-01-24 18:53:02] MikeHunt : getting raped $15 evry 8 hrs aint cool
[2017-01-24 18:53:08] Derreck : $15 discount WTF!
[2017-01-24 18:53:27] wurstgelee : not enough
[2017-01-24 18:53:34] wurstgelee : hina is >10$ lower
[2017-01-24 18:53:35] airitout : 250 at my end
[2017-01-24 18:53:37] wurstgelee : *c
[2017-01-24 18:54:10] Derreck : also Chinese volume is really small!
[2017-01-24 18:54:12] Noobz : @MikeHunt: @Derreck how did you plan saying that together?
[2017-01-24 18:56:21] Derreck : 0kcoin volume is like back to Sep 2015
[2017-01-24 18:58:20] MikeHunt : Noobz: telepathy
[2017-01-24 18:59:55] Noobz : lol
[2017-01-24 19:07:24] johndoe : is there an easy way to download historical .csv data for hourly bars of bitmex data, without using scripts?
[2017-01-24 19:08:03] Shaman : https://www.bitmex.com/app/tradeHistory
[2017-01-24 19:09:11] johndoe : thx, but i mean hourly OHLC data for the btc swap or futures contract
[2017-01-24 19:09:52] Shaman : im guessing you would probably have to sort that out yourself, but could probably do it in a spreadsheet somehow
[2017-01-24 19:10:12] BitMEX_Sam : Go to https://www.bitmex.com/api/explorer/#!/Trade/Trade_getBucketed and build your request
[2017-01-24 19:10:24] BitMEX_Sam : Then copy/paste the request and add `&_format=csv` to the end of it
[2017-01-24 19:11:07] johndoe : BitMEX_Sam: thanks man, appreciate it
[2017-01-24 19:18:59] bingbongfly : Hello, do anyone have any experience with unconfirmed deposits? I had too low of a fee by accident
[2017-01-24 19:19:30] bingbongfly : It's a deposit to this site, but my auto-fee on my new wallet was very low so it hasn't been confirmed for many hours
[2017-01-24 19:19:44] bingbongfly : will I get the chance to resend the transacttion?
[2017-01-24 19:21:40] Farzad : bingbongfly: I think you should wait for it to be confirmed
[2017-01-24 19:21:54] Farzad : or thrown out of mempool and then resend it
[2017-01-24 19:22:29] bingbongfly : Farzad: alright, yea I read some about it. Do you have any idea how long it will take give or take? Desperate for some more margin here hehe
[2017-01-24 19:22:51] Farzad : well it depends on the fee u paid
[2017-01-24 19:22:52] bingbongfly : to get thrown out
[2017-01-24 19:22:56] Farzad : may take up to 1 week !
[2017-01-24 19:22:57] bingbongfly : It's low, basically minimum
[2017-01-24 19:23:03] bingbongfly : alright.. thanks!
[2017-01-24 19:23:35] bingbongfly : There are reasons why BTC has a long way to go for mainstream adoption :/
[2017-01-24 19:23:37] Farzad : omg this backlog situation is only getting worse !
[2017-01-24 19:23:43] bingbongfly : yup
[2017-01-24 19:24:01] Farzad : 71K unconfirmed transactions now !
[2017-01-24 19:24:12] bingbongfly : wut? It was 60 about an hour ago
[2017-01-24 19:24:14] bingbongfly : last I checked
[2017-01-24 19:24:21] Farzad : check now, 71K
[2017-01-24 19:24:26] Farzad : it is getting worse
[2017-01-24 19:24:45] Farzad : hopefully it convinces miners to increase block size
[2017-01-24 19:25:36] Noobz : bingbongfly: next time, if you didn't already do check the needed fee here https://bitcoinfees.21.co/
[2017-01-24 19:26:05] bingbongfly : Noobz: thanks
[2017-01-24 19:28:42] bingbongfly : wait,
[2017-01-24 19:28:55] bingbongfly : according to this, my transaction shouldn't be a problem right?? I payed 0.00024970 btc
[2017-01-24 19:29:25] Noobz : check the tx on tradeblock you can see the sat/b
[2017-01-24 19:30:15] bingbongfly : wut?
[2017-01-24 19:30:58] Noobz : how many kb was your tx? depends on how many addresses used etc.
[2017-01-24 19:31:29] bingbongfly : https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/tx/bc987dfc2e3dfa9a422634d1d5d9380d00d21b44b0f4adc47220f5ef1520a3a9
[2017-01-24 19:31:32] bingbongfly : it's this transaction
[2017-01-24 19:32:03] bingbongfly : guess it should confirm in a couple of hours
[2017-01-24 19:32:15] Noobz : 132 sats per b yeah that should be fast
[2017-01-24 19:32:34] bingbongfly : I'm used to quicker, 3 hours is pretty much by how I use to set my fees
[2017-01-24 19:32:40] bingbongfly : thanks for your help
[2017-01-24 19:32:42] Noobz : but wait...
[2017-01-24 19:32:48] bingbongfly : ?! :S
[2017-01-24 19:33:07] Noobz : you see that incoming coin? that is unconfirmed
[2017-01-24 19:33:15] Noobz : with 26 sat/b
[2017-01-24 19:33:18] bingbongfly : Aha.. I see
[2017-01-24 19:33:42] bingbongfly : Weird
[2017-01-24 19:33:52] bingbongfly : So I just bought a new ledger nano S
[2017-01-24 19:33:59] bingbongfly : And sent a BTC to it a couple days ago
[2017-01-24 19:34:04] bingbongfly : it said it was confirmed on the app
[2017-01-24 19:34:11] bingbongfly : but I didnt bother to check the actual transaction
[2017-01-24 19:35:12] Noobz : yeah the unconfirmed tx is from jan 23rd, yesterday
[2017-01-24 19:35:50] Noobz : hope that your new tx pushes it through (Child pays for parent)
[2017-01-24 19:36:42] bingbongfly : Ah okey I see now
[2017-01-24 19:36:55] bingbongfly : but, if it doesn't, will it be send back to my original wallet?
[2017-01-24 19:37:26] bingbongfly : or is it stuck in limbo?! :S
[2017-01-24 19:37:45] Noobz : yeah if it is thrown out it is like it is never send
[2017-01-24 19:38:03] Noobz : just wait for the backlog it will be ok, slowly though
[2017-01-24 19:38:45] bingbongfly : okey, thanks. Yeah I guess I can wait, just a little worried when transactions go missing! I havn't wrapped my head around everything yet
[2017-01-24 19:38:48] bingbongfly : but I learned a lot from this
[2017-01-24 19:40:38] MikeHunt : 1hr RSI descending triangle?
[2017-01-24 19:42:36] MikeHunt : china volume down 60%
[2017-01-24 19:43:38] johndoe : i think its more than 60%
[2017-01-24 19:43:51] johndoe : https://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/volume/6h?c=e&r=hour&t=bar
[2017-01-24 19:44:48] MikeHunt : johndoe: im just going by https://exchangewar.info/
[2017-01-24 19:45:04] MikeHunt : was ~285k, down to 115k
[2017-01-24 19:45:28] MikeHunt : wouldnt be suprised if by 4am today it drops even further
[2017-01-24 19:45:34] MikeHunt : tomorrow*
[2017-01-24 19:45:40] johndoe : btcc/ok-coin/hu0bi went from 90% of global volume to about 30% roughly
[2017-01-24 19:46:08] MikeHunt : i think coindesk said real volume was between 50-85%
[2017-01-24 19:46:48] MikeHunt : that was before the big raping from drop at 8888 iirc thou
[2017-01-24 19:48:35] -_- : no one wants to move the price
[2017-01-24 19:48:44] -_- : nor make a splash in an altcoin
[2017-01-24 19:50:20] MikeHunt : -_-: looks like its slowly going down
[2017-01-24 19:50:37] MikeHunt : if it completes descending triangle then i think we'll see a move
[2017-01-24 19:52:26] -_- : gotta wait for china to wake up.
[2017-01-24 19:57:56] Derreck : 0kcoin is 6300, bitmex is still 6210
[2017-01-24 19:58:10] narnarfromnarnia : funding in 2min
[2017-01-24 19:58:13] narnarfromnarnia : then what happens?
[2017-01-24 19:58:32] MikeHunt : get raped $15
[2017-01-24 19:58:40] narnarfromnarnia : MikeHunt: from quick dump?
[2017-01-24 19:58:43] narnarfromnarnia : or what
[2017-01-24 19:58:52] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: i think it will be a long slow decline
[2017-01-24 19:58:55] narnarfromnarnia : what will i get with a 20btc
[2017-01-24 19:58:59] narnarfromnarnia : holding i wonder
[2017-01-24 19:59:02] narnarfromnarnia : long
[2017-01-24 19:59:04] MikeHunt : maybe a few moves on major pattern completitions
[2017-01-24 19:59:13] Noobz : a headache
[2017-01-24 19:59:18] MikeHunt : narnarfromnarnia: 0.0056
[2017-01-24 19:59:34] MikeHunt : $50.62
[2017-01-24 20:00:38] MikeHunt : im a dumbass, i should have just gone stamp earlier
[2017-01-24 20:00:47] MikeHunt : or krapen
[2017-01-24 20:02:04] airitout : MikeHunt: i told you to go long
[2017-01-24 20:02:20] airitout : +0.2450
[2017-01-24 20:03:15] MikeHunt : i might go finex instead
[2017-01-24 20:03:17] MikeHunt : fees arent too bad
[2017-01-24 20:03:23] MikeHunt : can do margin funding there as well
[2017-01-24 20:03:25] Tetsuo : plz do that
[2017-01-24 20:06:13] airitout : long it till 910 atleast
[2017-01-24 20:06:20] sleger : I paid 3.6btc over the past 2 fundings, dont complain for 50 bucks....
[2017-01-24 20:06:29] narnarfromnarnia : lol thanks sleger
[2017-01-24 20:07:04] MikeHunt : sledger going short? hell really has frozen over...
[2017-01-24 20:07:29] sleger : I am net long overall
[2017-01-24 20:07:40] arbitrage101 : there are cheaper place to hedge/short
[2017-01-24 20:07:40] sleger : and still no d in my username
[2017-01-24 20:07:49] sleger : arbitrage101: where ?
[2017-01-24 20:07:50] MikeHunt : typo
[2017-01-24 20:07:58] arbitrage101 : sleger: finex ..
[2017-01-24 20:08:07] MikeHunt : re finex: "Because of the Chinese New Year festivities in Taiwan our banks will be closed from Friday 27 January to Wednesday 1 February."