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[2017-01-24 12:23:22] l3f : a dump attempt every 12 hours
[2017-01-24 12:23:32] rapidtrades : what can't retrace will crash
[2017-01-24 12:23:39] rapidtrades : it's inevitable
[2017-01-24 12:23:52] VenCap : go to 920 and i will short the life out of this
[2017-01-24 12:25:03] l3f : rapidtrades: but muh etf
[2017-01-24 12:26:04] rapidtrades : that crap will not get approved
[2017-01-24 12:26:47] abz : Bitcoin is on a verge http://zentrade.online/bitcoinusd-price-action-analysis-bitmex-perpetual-swap-xbtusd-update-20170124/
[2017-01-24 12:29:42] aethlios : why the 100% reverse all moves? stupid manipulators.
[2017-01-24 12:32:34] airitout : MAX Price will be 912 then bear trend will continue, if not continuing now
[2017-01-24 12:32:36] j8 : china bots are in a bad mood, they need to get creative now with 0.4% round trip
[2017-01-24 12:35:02] Ahhere : Lol this is like the final scene in terminator #death throes
[2017-01-24 12:38:10] l3f : aethlios: they need the price high to exit
[2017-01-24 12:38:17] l3f : they lost control of futures
[2017-01-24 12:38:20] l3f : spot is their last defence
[2017-01-24 12:38:30] l3f : They're just proping it up to exit now
[2017-01-24 12:40:15] l3f : Those wicks down were dumps and then propped back up so exit higher
[2017-01-24 12:40:20] l3f : and exit into the panic buys
[2017-01-24 12:40:41] l3f : doom will come
[2017-01-24 12:41:05] VenCap : new year also.
[2017-01-24 12:41:19] l3f : Yeah CNY week of party and hookers for rich Chinese guys
[2017-01-24 12:41:30] l3f : don't want to have to look at btc during this period of celebration
[2017-01-24 12:41:31] VenCap : Golden Roosters for all
[2017-01-24 12:41:34] VenCap : Golden Eggs
[2017-01-24 12:41:42] VenCap : Golden Showers!
[2017-01-24 12:41:47] VenCap : ...
[2017-01-24 12:47:16] VenCap : OKcoin trying to break 6k it seems
[2017-01-24 12:49:19] abbey : well not really
[2017-01-24 12:49:34] VenCap : no. holding 6200 very well TBH
[2017-01-24 12:49:54] l3f : Predicted Funding Rate -0.3253% In 15 hours
[2017-01-24 12:49:54] VenCap : abbey: wouldyou go long from here?
[2017-01-24 12:49:56] l3f : are your bodies ready?
[2017-01-24 12:50:25] VenCap : so if i have no position when funding timer runs out i do not get taxed?
[2017-01-24 12:50:38] l3f : yes
[2017-01-24 12:50:54] l3f : only if you have a position when it ticks over you get hit by funding
[2017-01-24 12:50:57] VenCap : great, next time i will not have a position open.
[2017-01-24 12:51:00] abbey : i don't have to worry about it because already long with profitable position
[2017-01-24 12:51:17] VenCap : abbey: what was your entry price? 880 ?
[2017-01-24 12:51:43] airitout : between 1500 and 1600 next big dump
[2017-01-24 12:51:51] airitout : CEST
[2017-01-24 12:51:59] abbey : it's 867.49 now
[2017-01-24 12:52:01] VenCap : 3pm and 4pm european time, thank you airitout
[2017-01-24 12:52:11] VenCap : wow very nice position.
[2017-01-24 12:52:21] VenCap : nice gains
[2017-01-24 12:52:36] VenCap : are you on the leaderboard?
[2017-01-24 12:52:44] airitout : lol
[2017-01-24 12:53:12] abbey : VenCap: doubt it
[2017-01-24 12:53:23] VenCap : airitout are you?
[2017-01-24 12:53:30] airitout : no
[2017-01-24 12:54:01] VenCap : hard to get on leaderboard right?
[2017-01-24 12:54:10] VenCap : whats minimum profits now around 65btc?
[2017-01-24 12:54:17] airitout : ive made approx 6 btc in the course of a week
[2017-01-24 12:54:18] VenCap : per year?
[2017-01-24 12:54:22] airitout : just starting trading in here
[2017-01-24 12:54:33] VenCap : nie, me too, last week, until sunday and i got rekt.
[2017-01-24 12:54:40] VenCap : so chasing it.
[2017-01-24 12:54:58] VenCap : now with this position just about breaking even.
[2017-01-24 12:55:33] VenCap : when i am out of this, i will buy new car. and count myself very lucky
[2017-01-24 12:55:33] airitout : if price hits 800 ill buy a nice car
[2017-01-24 12:55:41] airitout : lool
[2017-01-24 12:55:47] airitout : at the same time
[2017-01-24 12:55:49] VenCap : Mazda ?
[2017-01-24 12:55:53] airitout : loool
[2017-01-24 12:55:56] VenCap : cx-5 for me.
[2017-01-24 12:56:09] airitout : ill stick to the german brans
[2017-01-24 12:56:13] airitout : brands
[2017-01-24 12:56:19] VenCap : not what they used to be, Japan way better
[2017-01-24 12:56:23] VenCap : they dont cheap on tests
[2017-01-24 12:56:27] VenCap : they have morals.
[2017-01-24 12:56:36] VenCap : code of conduct, Germans not to betrusted
[2017-01-24 12:56:47] airitout : lol why? are you jewish?
[2017-01-24 12:57:07] VenCap : No, its true Japan make better cars than cheating Germany
[2017-01-24 12:57:46] VenCap : would not have BMW, drivers are ... bleep, bleeping, bleepers
[2017-01-24 12:58:01] VenCap : so tell em what you would buy?
[2017-01-24 12:58:17] airitout : my eyes are on audi a5
[2017-01-24 12:58:29] airitout : will be my first car
[2017-01-24 12:59:12] VenCap : ooh.. ok
[2017-01-24 12:59:18] VenCap : i stand corrected...
[2017-01-24 12:59:24] VenCap : Audi.. shit, forgot they are German....
[2017-01-24 12:59:27] VenCap : i do liek Audis
[2017-01-24 12:59:40] VenCap : and would have one
[2017-01-24 12:59:49] VenCap : i'll wait for mid life crisis and buy A8
[2017-01-24 13:00:09] airitout : haha, how old are you?
[2017-01-24 13:00:13] VenCap : *R8
[2017-01-24 13:00:18] VenCap : mid 30s
[2017-01-24 13:00:36] airitout : ok, what do you do for a living?
[2017-01-24 13:00:46] VenCap : crypto investor
[2017-01-24 13:00:48] VenCap : 100%
[2017-01-24 13:00:51] Noobz : getting rekt
[2017-01-24 13:00:54] VenCap : no,
[2017-01-24 13:00:56] VenCap : making big bank
[2017-01-24 13:01:01] airitout : Noobz: lol
[2017-01-24 13:01:07] VenCap : started with 30k GBP
[2017-01-24 13:01:08] Noobz : just jk ;)
[2017-01-24 13:01:14] VenCap : got much more now
[2017-01-24 13:01:19] VenCap : got lucky with some alts. very lucky
[2017-01-24 13:01:40] VenCap : got a big bag of straits, will do very nice.
[2017-01-24 13:01:46] VenCap : big bag of IOC
[2017-01-24 13:01:49] VenCap : and a few others
[2017-01-24 13:01:53] VenCap : all good in the Crypto hood
[2017-01-24 13:01:58] rustiv : nice bag @VenCap
[2017-01-24 13:01:59] VenCap : this is just fun to kill some time
[2017-01-24 13:02:32] aethlios : VenCap: do you know firstblood?? I have many from the ico. any opinion for the coin??
[2017-01-24 13:02:43] VenCap : yeah i avoided it.
[2017-01-24 13:02:49] VenCap : dont like shady ETH stuff
[2017-01-24 13:02:55] VenCap : i think they are crooks
[2017-01-24 13:03:01] VenCap : etc was uber scam
[2017-01-24 13:03:10] VenCap : they have stained reputation
[2017-01-24 13:03:21] VenCap : firstblodo was on gatecoin, where i sold my REP
[2017-01-24 13:03:27] airitout : I've never really got into the ICO stuff? What is it and how can you make money with it?
[2017-01-24 13:03:32] VenCap : what is the price like now? good?
[2017-01-24 13:03:43] aethlios : crooks always have an exit plan, so it is not bad to trade it and sell the right moment.
[2017-01-24 13:03:51] VenCap : ICO simply hunt for good ones, buy them, set sells for x5- x10
[2017-01-24 13:04:01] VenCap : corect, i agree, eth stuff pumps
[2017-01-24 13:04:02] l3f : aethlios: https://blockchain.info/charts/mempool-size?timespan=60days
[2017-01-24 13:04:12] l3f : Notice anything?
[2017-01-24 13:04:57] airitout : dump coming ahead, just like the one on 5jan
[2017-01-24 13:05:04] rustiv : i notice the 5th of january, there was also a big spike. when I look at the charts this was exactly BEFORE the big dump
[2017-01-24 13:05:08] VenCap : i have been in crypto 3 years, so know how to spot good ico's and coins.
[2017-01-24 13:05:16] aethlios : l3f: tsunami to hit exchanges?? I think scalability issue will be a problem soon.
[2017-01-24 13:05:29] VenCap : could well be.. eta for dump? today maybe?
[2017-01-24 13:05:37] l3f : aethlios: Today or tomorrow
[2017-01-24 13:06:03] aethlios : l3f: bear army waits for ammunition delivery.
[2017-01-24 13:06:14] l3f : reporting in
[2017-01-24 13:06:28] VenCap : to what price 800 700? da daa daaaa 600
[2017-01-24 13:06:40] l3f : back to 400 rofl
[2017-01-24 13:06:50] airitout : that would be great
[2017-01-24 13:07:08] rustiv : you think we will go again to ~930 USD before the epic dump?
[2017-01-24 13:07:18] airitout : nah
[2017-01-24 13:07:31] l3f : rustiv: quite possible, but it's looking less and less likely
[2017-01-24 13:07:32] airitout : like i said max 912/913
[2017-01-24 13:07:36] aethlios : after 400 we go 3,000 in 2 years, with new exchanges west based.
[2017-01-24 13:07:49] aethlios : less manipulation, more transparency.
[2017-01-24 13:08:01] VenCap : agreed, this is good long term for bitcoin, really good
[2017-01-24 13:08:07] l3f : "less mainpulation" hahahah hahaha hahah
[2017-01-24 13:08:08] l3f : hahah
[2017-01-24 13:08:10] l3f : hahahahahahah
[2017-01-24 13:08:11] l3f : hahahahahahah
[2017-01-24 13:08:12] VenCap : get the stock exchange, wall street boys in on the action
[2017-01-24 13:08:23] VenCap : they dont know how to manipulate
[2017-01-24 13:08:24] aethlios : or the same manipulation (they are in every country) but more transparency.
[2017-01-24 13:08:25] VenCap : :OD
[2017-01-24 13:08:36] VenCap : but yeah. will be very gdo for BTC
[2017-01-24 13:12:38] aethlios : l3f: do you see segwit adopted? or btc could fork, fork crisis and china fees are enough for 200 to 400
[2017-01-24 13:12:57] VenCap : 200 would probally kill BTC
[2017-01-24 13:13:01] VenCap : 400 would be crisis
[2017-01-24 13:13:20] l3f : aethlios: segwith needs 95%+ so probably no unless they start making some compromises
[2017-01-24 13:13:30] l3f : most likely no*
[2017-01-24 13:13:34] narnarfromnarnia : they are dumping it to close out shorts
[2017-01-24 13:13:37] l3f : the BU people are gaining already
[2017-01-24 13:13:46] narnarfromnarnia : short contracts are reducing based on that reddit post
[2017-01-24 13:13:57] rapidtrades : if the BU ppl win bitcorns is truly ded
[2017-01-24 13:13:59] rapidtrades : for real ded
[2017-01-24 13:14:14] l3f : rapidtrades: I never believe in bitcoin anyway
[2017-01-24 13:14:25] aethlios : we will have 2 bitcoins, a civil war will start.
[2017-01-24 13:14:53] VenCap : a new coin has to emerge
[2017-01-24 13:14:53] aethlios : double the spot and the futures.
[2017-01-24 13:15:17] VenCap : look at AOL today
[2017-01-24 13:15:19] Apocalyptic : BU people are winning ? lol
[2017-01-24 13:16:26] airitout : doos?
[2017-01-24 13:16:34] airitout : ddos?
[2017-01-24 13:16:42] aethlios : segwit now 25%
[2017-01-24 13:17:46] l3f : https://coin.dance/blocks
[2017-01-24 13:17:50] l3f : oh wow I thought BU was winning
[2017-01-24 13:17:51] l3f : apparently not
[2017-01-24 13:18:49] l3f : But there's now enough BU to block segwit entirely
[2017-01-24 13:20:26] VenCap : Arise Chickun/Rooster
[2017-01-24 13:25:46] rapidtrades : the next dump will take us below 850
[2017-01-24 13:26:05] l3f : rapidtrades: you've been waiting for this for how long now?
[2017-01-24 13:26:36] VenCap : below 850 ouch
[2017-01-24 13:27:18] l3f : VenCap: He was a bear before Satoshi mined the first block
[2017-01-24 13:27:28] l3f : His target is zero
[2017-01-24 13:27:41] VenCap : lols
[2017-01-24 13:28:01] VenCap : rapidtrades: You like Porridge Bro?
[2017-01-24 13:28:13] VenCap : Women with Golden Locks?
[2017-01-24 13:30:27] VenCap : Do you poop in woods?
[2017-01-24 13:30:29] VenCap : :OD
[2017-01-24 13:31:02] rapidtrades : describes me exactly
[2017-01-24 13:31:10] rapidtrades : ARE U A PSYCHIC?
[2017-01-24 13:32:48] VenCap : Is that the movie starring Norman Bates?
[2017-01-24 13:37:49] rapidtrades : don't fight guys
[2017-01-24 13:38:22] VenCap : yeah, just let it happen. Take this lube... wont hrt so much :P
[2017-01-24 13:52:31] VenCap : not long now
[2017-01-24 13:53:50] FreeBitcoins : if it breaks under 900 on this line it will be the beginning of the biggest red candle we have seen for some time
[2017-01-24 13:55:30] FreeBitcoins : not bitmex price but combined index and CNY 6200 critical
[2017-01-24 13:58:50] bingbongfly : damn what a rally this has been
[2017-01-24 13:59:08] bingbongfly : I remember buying BTC for 200$ not too long ago
[2017-01-24 13:59:30] bingbongfly : Just last summer I snagged some for 400$
[2017-01-24 14:01:56] VenCap : could break 6200 today
[2017-01-24 14:02:29] VenCap : looks like 1 person tryin to hold 6250
[2017-01-24 14:02:32] VenCap : not gonna happen
[2017-01-24 14:05:28] FreeBitcoins : if it breaks 6200 on this line then I will get cold feet about my cold storage
[2017-01-24 14:06:13] VenCap : well 6250 trying to hold back a army it seems
[2017-01-24 14:06:16] bingbongfly : FreeBitcoins: what's your entry price?
[2017-01-24 14:06:28] VenCap : like sticking thumb in a hole in huge dam
[2017-01-24 14:06:29] bingbongfly : FreeBitcoins: your cold storage must have been bought recently
[2017-01-24 14:06:43] bingbongfly : FreeBitcoins: I can't lose on my cold storage, feels good man :D
[2017-01-24 14:07:56] FreeBitcoins : bingbongfly: old school but dont matter. If I know 500-600 can be on the cards thats many dollars
[2017-01-24 14:09:34] bingbongfly : FreeBitcoins: true true, that's why I trade as well
[2017-01-24 14:09:51] bingbongfly : I could never sit by and watch my capital lose so much
[2017-01-24 14:10:01] bingbongfly : but I dont want to send my cold storage around
[2017-01-24 14:10:06] bingbongfly : so I rather short and hedge
[2017-01-24 14:10:12] bingbongfly : and try to play the waves with a trading stack
[2017-01-24 14:14:25] rustiv : what coins are the people here holding (mid-long term)?
[2017-01-24 14:14:36] rapidtrades : http://www.coindesk.com/press-releases/press-release-deribit-options-future-exchange-announces-quarterly-future-rebate-makers/
[2017-01-24 14:14:37] rustiv : I bet on $STRAT $ANS $WAVES $VTR $ETC $XMR $ZEC
[2017-01-24 14:16:38] VenCap : $STRAT is the only one you need there.
[2017-01-24 14:16:57] VenCap : $waves go for 40-50k tops in a months or two. then back to 20k rinse and repat. bad coin
[2017-01-24 14:18:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5000 @ 899.91
[2017-01-24 14:19:35] VenCap : OKCOin here have some more money to throw on fire
[2017-01-24 14:20:24] sleger : rapidtrades: have you traded there ?
[2017-01-24 14:20:41] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 12000 @ 897.76
[2017-01-24 14:21:21] FreeBitcoins : fuark this is very dangerous here
[2017-01-24 14:22:15] VenCap : yeah... like watching house fire
[2017-01-24 14:23:27] sleger : buy when others are fearful he said
[2017-01-24 14:24:14] VenCap : hes dead now
[2017-01-24 14:25:45] Ahhere : rustiv: xmr, eth, aeon, siacoin
[2017-01-24 14:27:06] Ahhere : Last two are long shots obviously esp siacoin
[2017-01-24 14:27:16] Ahhere : aeon has same team as monero
[2017-01-24 14:27:20] Ahhere : its for mobile
[2017-01-24 14:30:11] VenCap : cny just give up the ghost already
[2017-01-24 14:31:11] VenCap : i've seen toy armies with better defenses
[2017-01-24 14:37:20] MikeHunt : getting raped with funding isnt fun
[2017-01-24 14:38:10] rapidtrades : aethlios: card doesn't work they say :( its cos I said its working great yesterday
[2017-01-24 14:39:02] VenCap : yeah agree, crazy Mike Hunt. Funding jsut wrong
[2017-01-24 14:39:10] VenCap : will always make sureBitmex does not grow big
[2017-01-24 14:40:26] MikeHunt : if this is still here tomoz im going to another exchange
[2017-01-24 14:40:39] MikeHunt : 0.34% in 13 hrs :O
[2017-01-24 14:40:45] aethlios : Unplanned maintenance for Named cards until Tuesday, 23 January 13:30 UTC. Transaction declines are possible.
[2017-01-24 14:41:14] VenCap : just over 5hrs
[2017-01-24 14:41:18] VenCap : 0.29%
[2017-01-24 14:41:45] VenCap : for what exactly. how much goes to Bitmex? 50%?
[2017-01-24 14:41:54] BitMEX_Sam : None of it goes to us.
[2017-01-24 14:41:58] airitout : they only charge funding rate when you have an open position at that time, right?
[2017-01-24 14:42:12] BitMEX_Sam : https://www.bitmex.com/app/swapsGuide#Funding
[2017-01-24 14:42:13] MikeHunt : airitout: yup
[2017-01-24 14:42:15] aethlios : airitout: right
[2017-01-24 14:42:19] VenCap : well if that is the case, do away with it compeltely.
[2017-01-24 14:42:28] VenCap : what is the point of it?
[2017-01-24 14:42:35] VenCap : giving crumbs back to people who loose a lot
[2017-01-24 14:42:46] BitMEX_Sam : A derivative without a settlement has no reason to trade at the spot price
[2017-01-24 14:42:51] BitMEX_Sam : The funding tethers the price.
[2017-01-24 14:43:00] VenCap : funding tethers the price ?
[2017-01-24 14:43:08] BitMEX_Sam : Please read the above guide
[2017-01-24 14:43:30] VenCap : thank you Sam.
[2017-01-24 14:43:35] BitMEX_Sam : From the beginning would likely be most useful. These mechanics exist for a reason. :)
[2017-01-24 14:43:41] VenCap : but you would be better off here not having it.
[2017-01-24 14:43:46] MikeHunt : BitMEX_Sam: issue is there doesnt seem to be a way to safely store value (fiat) on this exchange
[2017-01-24 14:43:50] VenCap : youd keep many more customers
[2017-01-24 14:44:15] VenCap : easily sneak the fee into buying selling fees
[2017-01-24 14:44:24] VenCap : people wont notice so much then
[2017-01-24 14:44:32] VenCap : like "Free Postsage"
[2017-01-24 14:45:38] airitout : if they would offer tether coin
[2017-01-24 14:51:56] -_- : 9.5 million contracts open on xbt swap and quarterly. epic rekts incoming.
[2017-01-24 14:53:32] VenCap : Epic....
[2017-01-24 14:57:28] VenCap : they are putting up brave fight, i am sure the funding will compensate for the epic day they will have
[2017-01-24 14:58:08] rapidtrades : march at 887, swap at 900 this is some major stupidty at play here
[2017-01-24 14:58:33] arbitrage101 : Market price is usually rational
[2017-01-24 14:58:42] arbitrage101 : people who think otherwise may not
[2017-01-24 15:00:42] -_- : 0kcoin futures $880 quarterly
[2017-01-24 15:02:17] Noobz : where's my sub 6k?
[2017-01-24 15:04:47] VenCap : wheres my Butler..... Alfred?
[2017-01-24 15:05:48] Noobz : a sub can be a kind of butler too xD
[2017-01-24 15:07:24] VenCap : a "sub-servient" :OD
[2017-01-24 15:24:36] -_- : china trying to dump
[2017-01-24 15:29:51] bingbongfly : we gonna have a massive shortsqueeze when the bearwhale goes down
[2017-01-24 15:29:56] bingbongfly : wonder when
[2017-01-24 15:30:13] -_- : price will need to shoot over $1000 i bet
[2017-01-24 15:30:27] -_- : they held on when price at 960
[2017-01-24 15:30:54] -_- : i think we have a better chance at dumping
[2017-01-24 15:31:30] -_- : dump to low 4000's to complete the head of the inverse head and shoulders
[2017-01-24 15:31:42] -_- : like 4200 CNY
[2017-01-24 15:32:21] -_- : so $600 most exchanges. xbth17 like $530 i bet
[2017-01-24 15:32:41] -_- : $350 dump incoming. most shorts get ADL i bet
[2017-01-24 15:33:16] MikeHunt : the failure of the china pump moves the mean down
[2017-01-24 15:33:19] MikeHunt : ill do some paintings
[2017-01-24 15:36:27] MikeHunt : http://i.imgur.com/1tvTYYe.png
[2017-01-24 15:38:46] -_- : i like that MikeHunt. the fake volume started and then btc took off
[2017-01-24 15:38:57] -_- : so it could fall all the way back down there
[2017-01-24 15:39:50] MikeHunt : yeh, so i might leave here for a while, negative funding for what could be a few weeks/months dont sound too fun
[2017-01-24 15:45:43] VenCap : the guy at 6250 cny must have a lot of bitcoin
[2017-01-24 15:45:51] VenCap : its being well defended but toally futile
[2017-01-24 15:47:37] johndoe : interesting that almost all of the USD exchanges are so close in price, even BTC-E
[2017-01-24 15:48:18] VenCap : "We all Fall Together"
[2017-01-24 15:58:22] -_- : watching the charts is so boring now. need to find a new hobby
[2017-01-24 15:59:54] VenCap : How does this 6250 at OKCoin not get smashed?
[2017-01-24 16:00:04] johndoe : seriously. no margin+no fees = no liquidity. :(
[2017-01-24 16:00:18] johndoe : err, with fees i mean
[2017-01-24 16:00:29] VenCap : it wont stop them trading. they are hooked
[2017-01-24 16:00:33] VenCap : fees are fees.
[2017-01-24 16:00:44] VenCap : most have so much cash a feew fees wont matter
[2017-01-24 16:01:11] johndoe : i imagine some, especially HFT will have to come to bitmex. Lower fees, especially maker fees and massive leverage allowed.
[2017-01-24 16:01:38] -_- : maybe
[2017-01-24 16:01:47] johndoe : looks BTCC is about the same liquidity as bitstamp or finex roughly
[2017-01-24 16:01:49] -_- : 6250 gone
[2017-01-24 16:02:38] johndoe : 6250 held
[2017-01-24 16:02:40] VenCap : 53btc stil lleft
[2017-01-24 16:02:40] abbey : lol
[2017-01-24 16:02:43] VenCap : for now
[2017-01-24 16:02:45] -_- : 2.8btc left
[2017-01-24 16:02:47] VenCap : stubborn bull
[2017-01-24 16:03:06] -_- : 49.68 btc dumped into it
[2017-01-24 16:03:14] -_- : i think china would be more eager to sell
[2017-01-24 16:03:24] VenCap : https://cryptowat.ch/okcoin/btccny/15m
[2017-01-24 16:03:33] VenCap : let see what happens
[2017-01-24 16:03:48] VenCap : its like "hey i broke the wall" Err.. what do we do now
[2017-01-24 16:04:11] VenCap : "wait for new wall to smash"
[2017-01-24 16:04:17] VenCap : "really finish them off"
[2017-01-24 16:04:20] -_- : see how many bots keep putting up buy walls on the way down . 296 BTC till 6200 now
[2017-01-24 16:05:01] -_- : i'm gonna go shower. watch something happens as soon as i get in
[2017-01-24 16:05:30] VenCap : i jsut had shower! thought the same thing
[2017-01-24 16:05:38] VenCap : all that happened was i came out cleaner
[2017-01-24 16:06:50] -_- : Big spread means 20 cny swings
[2017-01-24 16:07:22] VenCap : has okcoin broken.. its mexican stand off
[2017-01-24 16:07:41] johndoe : looks like bitmex isn't even following hu0bi or ok-coin anymore on USD
[2017-01-24 16:07:50] johndoe : on swap i mean
[2017-01-24 16:08:08] VenCap : Bots have taken over.
[2017-01-24 16:10:46] johndoe : exchanges aren't even tracking each other :( half are moving up and half trending down on 5m charts
[2017-01-24 16:11:48] herpinator : this is weird
[2017-01-24 16:13:43] abbey : nice
[2017-01-24 16:14:55] VenCap : this is odd.. like feels liek a big trap odd
[2017-01-24 16:15:13] Teddy76 : we need a new leader
[2017-01-24 16:15:28] VenCap : Darth Vader would be useful
[2017-01-24 16:15:34] MikeHunt : from what i can see
[2017-01-24 16:15:41] abbey : epic rekts incoming boys
[2017-01-24 16:15:41] MikeHunt : in 2013 when they reintroduced fees
[2017-01-24 16:15:45] VenCap : ok. going out. sod it.
[2017-01-24 16:15:46] MikeHunt : it took a while to set in
[2017-01-24 16:15:51] VenCap : abbey: if you long :P
[2017-01-24 16:17:05] abbey : i never rekt
[2017-01-24 16:17:19] -_- : Pumping
[2017-01-24 16:17:46] MikeHunt : 2013... http://i.imgur.com/ghRlCye.png
[2017-01-24 16:18:04] -_- : Xbth17 randomly pumping a lot
[2017-01-24 16:18:36] VenCap : i am shorting this at 920 with everything i have
[2017-01-24 16:19:02] bingbongfly : finally
[2017-01-24 16:19:04] bingbongfly : let me out of my long
[2017-01-24 16:19:04] abbey : weeeeee
[2017-01-24 16:19:05] bingbongfly : i'm dying
[2017-01-24 16:19:10] bingbongfly : pls XBTH
[2017-01-24 16:19:19] -_- : Lol then xbth17 randomly drops $5 so unpredictable
[2017-01-24 16:19:32] bingbongfly : -_-: not really, I wanted to get out of my long
[2017-01-24 16:19:44] bingbongfly : -_-: probably lots of underwater longs
[2017-01-24 16:19:55] bingbongfly : which means it's just chop chop city
[2017-01-24 16:19:59] MikeHunt : some guy here is still stuck at 1100 lol
[2017-01-24 16:20:06] -_- : I shorted 888 closed at 895 and a second later it's at 890. Wat
[2017-01-24 16:20:09] MikeHunt : if it falls bellow ~600 hes fucked
[2017-01-24 16:20:24] bingbongfly : MikeHunt: oh yeah
[2017-01-24 16:24:24] abbey : the bull is strong
[2017-01-24 16:25:51] abbey : don't fight back, just let it go, less pain
[2017-01-24 16:27:29] abbey : forget about those audi dreams, reality check
[2017-01-24 16:30:57] airitout : abbey: lol
[2017-01-24 16:33:01] Papou : bull has no juice
[2017-01-24 16:33:10] Papou : no more money to prop this up
[2017-01-24 16:33:32] Papou : on the way to hong kong boys to watch the fireworks with bobby lee
[2017-01-24 16:33:44] abbey : just look at it go
[2017-01-24 16:33:54] Papou : ok coin #1 holder is all long, hes been buying it all up thinking bitcoin moons
[2017-01-24 16:33:58] Papou : hes about to get liquidated
[2017-01-24 16:34:04] Papou : 40,000 btc market sell
[2017-01-24 16:35:08] KyllingLolsson : Bitcoin is not juiced up ryt now
[2017-01-24 16:37:16] bingbongfly : Papou: no he is short and long
[2017-01-24 16:38:17] bingbongfly : ok coin #1 holder is most probably both short and long, but mostly short I think. He has been getting squeezed lately, we'll see what happens
[2017-01-24 16:40:49] Papou : lol no
[2017-01-24 16:40:58] Papou : also #2 and 3 reduced positons by a lot
[2017-01-24 16:41:03] airitout : Papou: where do you get this info?
[2017-01-24 16:41:08] herpinator : the bogdanovs are in charge
[2017-01-24 16:41:12] Papou : insiders
[2017-01-24 16:41:19] Papou : everyone thought bitcoin will moon they said :(
[2017-01-24 16:41:33] abbey : lol, papou indicator bullish as f*ck
[2017-01-24 16:41:53] Papou : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-19/chinese-investors-exit-bitcoin-flood-gold-etfs
[2017-01-24 16:41:54] airitout : Papou: how do you know that someone in okcoin is 40k long?
[2017-01-24 16:42:07] Papou : airitout who do u think pumped the price
[2017-01-24 16:42:15] Papou : normal average joes?
[2017-01-24 16:42:32] airitout : just answer the question kid
[2017-01-24 16:42:44] Papou : i have info dont worry
[2017-01-24 16:42:47] Papou : but also
[2017-01-24 16:42:48] Papou : https://www.okcoin.com/future/futureTop.do?type=1&symbol=0
[2017-01-24 16:42:52] airitout : lol
[2017-01-24 16:42:58] Papou : LOL shorts not even open yet
[2017-01-24 16:43:08] Papou : what u think happens when 50%+ go short from 30%
[2017-01-24 16:43:10] Papou : game over
[2017-01-24 16:43:42] airitout : papou gekko. has all the inside information
[2017-01-24 16:44:09] -_- : 6275 and 6280 and then 6298 are the only spots with walls on 0kcoin
[2017-01-24 16:45:20] Rado : Poopoo the game is never over
[2017-01-24 16:45:23] thomaskikansha : swap trading above index :o
[2017-01-24 16:47:07] bingbongfly : shorts starting to sweat, even a premium on swap lol
[2017-01-24 16:47:23] bingbongfly : wish I didnt close half my long so soon, poor trading this week
[2017-01-24 16:52:10] -_- : 0kcoin can be at 6300 in a second
[2017-01-24 16:52:54] -_- : dont know why MM is pushing xbth17 down still
[2017-01-24 16:53:45] Rado : -_-: MM is not pushing anything
[2017-01-24 16:53:50] Rado : if you understand what an MM is
[2017-01-24 16:54:03] -_- : see 6299
[2017-01-24 16:54:19] -_- : the market maker with his 15k walls were at 895 and then a minute later 891
[2017-01-24 16:54:23] -_- : and price is going up everywhere else
[2017-01-24 16:55:05] -_- : oh well. everything is out of wack. dont even know why i'm trying to trade this
[2017-01-24 16:56:10] herpinator : I feel the same with no clear market leader
[2017-01-24 16:56:54] MikeHunt : you guys have played rome total war? what happens wen ur leader dies in battle?
[2017-01-24 16:57:56] Tetsuo : he´s dead?
[2017-01-24 16:58:05] knikky : RUN AWAY
[2017-01-24 16:58:15] Noobz : you get his girl?
[2017-01-24 16:58:30] MikeHunt : knikky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FPELc1wEvk
[2017-01-24 16:58:33] knikky : MikeHunt: didn't quite tap 950 like you said but the multi-day prediction so far has been pretty good
[2017-01-24 16:58:44] johndoe : so strange that CNY exchanges are not leading bitmex price. Gotta rethink my whole strategy
[2017-01-24 16:59:06] MikeHunt : knikky: well china kinda ruined that :/
[2017-01-24 16:59:33] johndoe : does anyone have link to current kaiko index that bitmex uses? it still just about half stamp, half ok-coin?
[2017-01-24 16:59:46] airitout : Rado, i haven't familiarize myself with trading bots. I saw that you are using. iam looking for one in the forex market, do you have any advice where to look or start?
[2017-01-24 16:59:53] knikky : yeah but it was within a few dollars and if this support breaks it's crashing pretty hard it seems
[2017-01-24 17:00:11] MikeHunt : airitout: github
[2017-01-24 17:00:13] Tetsuo : johndoe: quarterlys in here mostly follow the movement of okc quarterlys
[2017-01-24 17:00:46] MikeHunt : only western exchange with no fees now is coinfloor iirc
[2017-01-24 17:00:49] johndoe : Tetsuo: ok that makes sense, but i was mostly refering to the swap
[2017-01-24 17:03:07] MikeHunt : swap mark is unnervingly flat
[2017-01-24 17:21:55] -_- : 6240 to 6318 is empty on 0kcoin order book lolol
[2017-01-24 17:22:44] -_- : it seems just 1 trader is trying to get in or close out a short. once they are done then who knows what'll happen
[2017-01-24 17:29:39] -_- : ah 99 btc buy wall put up. 62 btc left of it now
[2017-01-24 17:29:40] -_- : 51
[2017-01-24 17:29:45] -_- : 45. sell sell sell
[2017-01-24 17:37:23] abbey : nom nom nom
[2017-01-24 17:48:25] Tetsuo : https://data.bitcoinity.org/markets/tradespm/24h?c=e&r=hour&t=ae byebye china dominance
[2017-01-24 17:49:25] VenCap : abbey: wanna share that Chocolate ?
[2017-01-24 17:49:57] airitout : Tetsuo: what time graph you checking?/
[2017-01-24 17:50:39] Tetsuo : 24h, so that u can clearly see the no fees/fees effect kickin in
[2017-01-24 17:51:03] airitout : china has 90% @ 24
[2017-01-24 17:51:54] Tetsuo : what? west combined has >50% now according to the graph?
[2017-01-24 17:53:10] airitout : choose all currencies and youll see that okcoin alone has 84%
[2017-01-24 17:53:17] herpinator : that site needs to list bitmex :p
[2017-01-24 17:53:22] Tetsuo : http://www.pic-upload.de/view-32549177/volume.jpg.html
[2017-01-24 17:53:27] abbey : VenCap: :) nope, i think this is mine
[2017-01-24 17:53:36] Tetsuo : this graph is with all currencies?
[2017-01-24 17:54:06] VenCap : Sharing is Caring :O)
[2017-01-24 17:54:56] abbey : I know, you can take the rest
[2017-01-24 17:55:31] airitout : Tetsuo: ok coin has 89% at yours as well.. what are you talkbout the west having 30?
[2017-01-24 17:55:57] Tetsuo : move your mouse at the x-axis to the point at 17:00
[2017-01-24 17:56:45] wurstgelee : okcoin doing almost 2 btc vol/min atm
[2017-01-24 17:56:46] wurstgelee : wow
[2017-01-24 17:56:48] wurstgelee : 8)
[2017-01-24 17:56:57] Papou : i think chinese are planning an exit strategy
[2017-01-24 17:56:58] Tetsuo : that´s how market leaders roll
[2017-01-24 17:57:02] Papou : because they know they cant all sell at once now
[2017-01-24 17:57:25] wurstgelee : chinese dont plan to exit. wyhy would they?
[2017-01-24 17:57:28] wurstgelee : *why
[2017-01-24 17:57:35] airitout : its 2am in china ofcourse volume is low now at their exchanges
[2017-01-24 17:57:40] Tetsuo : Papou is retarded, that´s all
[2017-01-24 17:57:49] wurstgelee : airitout: no. bots are turned off and fees were introduced
[2017-01-24 17:57:50] wurstgelee : thats y
[2017-01-24 17:58:58] Tetsuo : okc´s own bot is sittin in the corner and cryin
[2017-01-24 17:59:02] VenCap : nom nom... red candle chocolate my favourite :O)
[2017-01-24 17:59:13] VenCap : right off to watch Series. Later all. Be Lucky.
[2017-01-24 17:59:17] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: probably binge drinking with willy
[2017-01-24 17:59:17] Noobz : Tetsuo: he is losing his religion
[2017-01-24 17:59:26] Tetsuo : wurstgelee: lol
[2017-01-24 17:59:28] VenCap : Donteat that Green Candle choclolate! its posion.
[2017-01-24 18:00:10] VenCap : Papou: Chinese Exit strategy no.24
[2017-01-24 18:01:01] wurstgelee : i like how okc makes 20 CNY moves on 1 btc volume now
[2017-01-24 18:01:02] wurstgelee : :p
[2017-01-24 18:01:13] wurstgelee : thats almost as bad as bitstamp...
[2017-01-24 18:02:30] johndoe : hopefully some of the exchanges will consolidate or something. this is kinda embarrassing.
[2017-01-24 18:08:59] airitout : this is boring
[2017-01-24 18:10:00] -_- : and will be for a while
[2017-01-24 18:10:09] -_- : gotta eat up that supply then we go up
[2017-01-24 18:10:47] charlyko : pump incoming
[2017-01-24 18:13:01] wurstgelee : charlyko: curiosity makes me ask this: y?
[2017-01-24 18:14:19] johndoe : swap sure is holding strong
[2017-01-24 18:14:40] wurstgelee : swap is holding nothing, its following spot ;)
[2017-01-24 18:15:27] wurstgelee : but nothing what we do here has any influence on the spot price of btc.
[2017-01-24 18:15:32] wurstgelee : one way only
[2017-01-24 18:15:56] Tetsuo : if this continues for more than a week than i assume the west might take the lead for a while
[2017-01-24 18:16:31] Tetsuo : okkoin is nothing more than a clown car right now
[2017-01-24 18:16:32] wurstgelee : yeah, probably
[2017-01-24 18:16:45] wurstgelee : that. or boredom and altsareback
[2017-01-24 18:17:20] Tetsuo : would also be fine for me
[2017-01-24 18:17:30] wurstgelee : yep,, has been a while
[2017-01-24 18:17:41] wurstgelee : maybe fab to march, btc again starting april
[2017-01-24 18:17:44] wurstgelee : that would be niuce
[2017-01-24 18:17:48] wurstgelee : nice
[2017-01-24 18:19:06] johndoe : amazing. PBoC kills bitcoin by mandating boredom :)
[2017-01-24 18:19:25] herpinator : no fun allowed
[2017-01-24 18:19:30] herpinator : ;_;
[2017-01-24 18:20:20] Tetsuo : 40cny move within 1 second... and no one cares
[2017-01-24 18:20:40] Tetsuo : 19:20:03 6260.1 0.109 19:20:02 6299.1 0.93
[2017-01-24 18:20:47] MikeHunt : i expect this will slowly decline until a whale gives up patience and dumps
[2017-01-24 18:20:54] -_- : what are you suppose to do
[2017-01-24 18:21:24] -_- : quarterly here isnt going to move $7 every other second
[2017-01-24 18:21:36] johndoe : 0.2% is a really high fee. Especially compared to 0%...
[2017-01-24 18:21:42] johndoe : should've went with 0.1
[2017-01-24 18:22:07] -_- : yeah. people will be paying hundreds or thousands of dollars in fees in china
[2017-01-24 18:22:15] -_- : to pump or dump the price
[2017-01-24 18:22:55] johndoe : well, keep in mind that it will be a lot easier to pump or dump price, since there is such low liquidity - at least in the short-term
[2017-01-24 18:23:29] -_- : true. remove orders and pump or dump. but will other exchanges follow
[2017-01-24 18:23:32] johndoe : it would be great if USD exchanges start dominating again.
[2017-01-24 18:24:14] -_- : china still $7-$10 ahead of other exchanges
[2017-01-24 18:24:25] Tetsuo : no
[2017-01-24 18:25:41] wurstgelee : Tetsuo: that 40 cny move in a sec happened on less than 10 btc
[2017-01-24 18:25:45] wurstgelee : thats how bad it is atm ;)
[2017-01-24 18:25:55] charlyko : I hace choyna
[2017-01-24 18:25:59] charlyko : hate*
[2017-01-24 18:26:01] MikeHunt : the new mean has shifted downwards so that should put negative pressure on the price
[2017-01-24 18:26:45] wurstgelee : MikeHunt: lots of potential black swan events currently.
[2017-01-24 18:27:09] wurstgelee : turmp every day for the next 4 years. france and germany elections. uk/brexit. ....
[2017-01-24 18:27:16] wurstgelee : plus the usual stock crash scenario
[2017-01-24 18:28:01] wurstgelee : any of those would give btc a big push. so even short is risky imo
[2017-01-24 18:28:02] MikeHunt : yup, also what should be good for bitcoin can be bad, bank failures can affect exchanges