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[2017-01-24 10:01:04] aethlios : bulls have to defend 740 at any cost, through any usd they have left.
[2017-01-24 10:01:30] aethlios : 400 a nice entry for the 10,000 bull market.
[2017-01-24 10:02:07] charlyko : long time
[2017-01-24 10:02:23] charlyko : mirning sirs
[2017-01-24 10:02:27] charlyko : morning*
[2017-01-24 10:03:27] VenCap : guys when do you think we could see these levels? below 800 usd?
[2017-01-24 10:03:36] VenCap : my fees might be higher than my profits by then lol
[2017-01-24 10:04:17] aethlios : VenCap: are you short? short swap? jump to march
[2017-01-24 10:04:30] VenCap : short,
[2017-01-24 10:04:40] VenCap : normal, do not know any other way, i am as green as grass
[2017-01-24 10:04:49] VenCap : march time... a few months yet.
[2017-01-24 10:05:14] aethlios : you can short XBTH17 which has no funding.
[2017-01-24 10:06:11] VenCap : ah i did not know that. where, here?
[2017-01-24 10:06:15] aethlios : will lose 5 usd per btc in next 10 hours with funding
[2017-01-24 10:06:26] aethlios : VenCap: here
[2017-01-24 10:06:36] VenCap : wow. so i am due to loose close to $100
[2017-01-24 10:06:45] aethlios : VenCap: https://www.bitmex.com/app/trade/XBTH17
[2017-01-24 10:06:45] VenCap : onytop of the ongoing fees which stand at 1btc
[2017-01-24 10:06:51] VenCap : thanks.
[2017-01-24 10:07:01] VenCap : will try without funding if i survive this. on my last bitcoins here
[2017-01-24 10:10:15] abbey : VenCap: it's way more volatile than swap
[2017-01-24 10:10:45] abbey : perp swap
[2017-01-24 10:11:24] VenCap : volatile? the xbt17 ?
[2017-01-24 10:11:34] VenCap : more volatile than this ?
[2017-01-24 10:11:43] VenCap : what is this? (XBTUSD) ?
[2017-01-24 10:11:46] abbey : yes
[2017-01-24 10:15:24] abbey : if this is too hot to handle then xbth17 will rekt u harder
[2017-01-24 10:17:00] VenCap : ah, i dont need rekt harder. i feel like a new girl in the "stable" as it is.
[2017-01-24 10:17:57] micmix : okcoin orderbooks are almost completely empty. it's going to be brutal, as expected
[2017-01-24 10:18:13] Apocalyptic : micmix: yeah it's insane
[2017-01-24 10:18:23] aethlios : this is wild west of speculation non stop 24/7/365
[2017-01-24 10:18:24] Apocalyptic : liquidity has literally evaporated
[2017-01-24 10:18:40] micmix : Apocalyptic: they disabled international accounts
[2017-01-24 10:19:01] micmix : I'm so happy I pulled all my money out a week ago
[2017-01-24 10:19:08] VenCap : as Brutal as MtGox?
[2017-01-24 10:19:10] Apocalyptic : micmix: completely in okcny ?
[2017-01-24 10:19:54] micmix : Apocalyptic: yep, says "Sorry. we are unable to accept deposit from non-Chinese mainland customers currently." on the deposit page
[2017-01-24 10:20:03] Apocalyptic : was a nice hunch :) @micmix
[2017-01-24 10:20:53] micmix : Communist party said: Chinese exchanges are for the people! (only Chinese people that is)
[2017-01-24 10:21:32] micmix : and now it begins
[2017-01-24 10:22:04] dodic : lol
[2017-01-24 10:22:25] dodic : still micro dumps
[2017-01-24 10:22:39] herpinator : dumps for ants
[2017-01-24 10:22:58] VenCap : "nothing to see here...move alongs tyle dump"
[2017-01-24 10:23:27] charlyko : buy 909 sell 915
[2017-01-24 10:27:03] micmix : okc cny 0.6% spread for 10 btc
[2017-01-24 10:27:03] VenCap : "Very god price , you buy now...."
[2017-01-24 10:27:18] VenCap : walk around the corner to see it on sale for 50% less a week later
[2017-01-24 10:29:46] Apocalyptic : micmix: they could use some MMing :)
[2017-01-24 10:30:29] herpinator : looking at okc books reminds me of trading btc-e on spot long ago
[2017-01-24 10:30:41] micmix : they won't get much better charging 0.2% maker fee @Apocalyptic
[2017-01-24 10:31:28] Apocalyptic : micmix: I guess they will negotiate preferential fees with someone
[2017-01-24 10:34:17] micmix : they should bc this is ridiculous
[2017-01-24 10:41:15] BTC-Noob : traps everywhere, btc is the undisputed king of bull and bear traps
[2017-01-24 10:47:41] VenCap : Noob Traps? Bear Traps, Bull Traps. Rooster Traps?
[2017-01-24 10:48:32] bingbongfly : guys look at volume after fees on woodchippar
[2017-01-24 10:48:33] bingbongfly : https://gyazo.com/c85b65dd258320efc365d7cdb322bafb
[2017-01-24 10:48:35] bingbongfly : holy fuk
[2017-01-24 10:48:38] bingbongfly : that washtrading
[2017-01-24 10:50:01] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBCH17`: sell 3200 @ 6191.2
[2017-01-24 10:50:14] VenCap : wash trading?
[2017-01-24 10:50:16] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1300 @ 908.51
[2017-01-24 10:50:22] VenCap : eek....
[2017-01-24 10:50:46] bingbongfly : VenCap: washtrading means that you buy and sell to yourself to make the appearance of volume
[2017-01-24 10:50:56] bingbongfly : easy to do if there are no fees on the sells and buys
[2017-01-24 10:51:10] bingbongfly : as soon as the fees kicked in, the volume dried up
[2017-01-24 10:51:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 12960 @ 906.87
[2017-01-24 10:51:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 125 @ 887.95
[2017-01-24 10:51:44] VenCap : aah.. great like on bittrex
[2017-01-24 10:51:53] VenCap : i never knew it was named that
[2017-01-24 10:52:21] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 26552 @ 904.38
[2017-01-24 10:52:21] REKT : Abandon the ship!
[2017-01-24 10:52:26] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 30 @ 903.34
[2017-01-24 10:52:46] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 5000 @ 902.81
[2017-01-24 10:53:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 7420 @ 901.21
[2017-01-24 10:53:16] airitout : this is what we came for
[2017-01-24 10:53:20] VenCap : Crazy bitcoin might take a beating now.
[2017-01-24 10:53:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 63 @ 897.87
[2017-01-24 10:53:33] Noobz : airitout: yup
[2017-01-24 10:53:42] FreeBitcoins : that was cute
[2017-01-24 10:53:42] airitout : vencap.. remember my prediction
[2017-01-24 10:53:50] VenCap : i do.. 420?
[2017-01-24 10:53:51] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 7380 @ 897.03
[2017-01-24 10:53:58] airitout : between 1200 and 1400
[2017-01-24 10:54:07] VenCap : ah yes... bang on the money Sir
[2017-01-24 10:54:08] airitout : i was 8 minutes earlier
[2017-01-24 10:54:13] abbey : VenCap:lol, i was obviously wrong at least about the first rev h&s pattern
[2017-01-24 10:54:40] VenCap : cny going below 6k ?
[2017-01-24 10:54:47] abbey : i hope u make money out of this @VenCap
[2017-01-24 10:55:04] Ahhere : Knife catch time
[2017-01-24 10:55:07] arbitrage101 : this is bad
[2017-01-24 10:55:12] airitout : ill ride this out
[2017-01-24 10:55:17] arbitrage101 : i am net long for some reasons
[2017-01-24 10:55:17] Ahhere : cue circus music
[2017-01-24 10:55:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 10000 @ 870.06
[2017-01-24 10:55:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 10000 @ 872.86
[2017-01-24 10:55:32] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTH17`: sell 1444 @ 872.58
[2017-01-24 10:55:41] VenCap : abbey: i hope i do also. need to claw back over 8btc losses from sunday
[2017-01-24 10:56:00] airitout : damn
[2017-01-24 10:56:36] abbey : might be double bottom here thou
[2017-01-24 10:57:06] REKT : Liquidated long on `FCT7D`: sell 3950 @ 0.003579
[2017-01-24 10:57:52] pumper : BTFD
[2017-01-24 10:58:00] Ahhere : Lol stop hunters not giving up
[2017-01-24 10:58:01] VenCap : probally just the first of a few big reds?
[2017-01-24 10:58:22] Ahhere : Okcoin quarterly 860
[2017-01-24 10:58:33] Apocalyptic : Ahhere: rekt
[2017-01-24 10:58:33] Ahhere : finex 919
[2017-01-24 10:58:48] Ahhere : lols
[2017-01-24 10:59:20] airitout : lol who's buying
[2017-01-24 10:59:27] VenCap : shorters?
[2017-01-24 10:59:32] VenCap : to shed some contracts?
[2017-01-24 11:04:41] VenCap : Crazy people?
[2017-01-24 11:05:16] arbitrage101 : i am buying
[2017-01-24 11:05:18] arbitrage101 : at discount
[2017-01-24 11:05:36] VenCap : its a godo discount from the 920 earlier
[2017-01-24 11:06:06] arbitrage101 : discount at current market price i mean
[2017-01-24 11:06:15] arbitrage101 : not your version of discount
[2017-01-24 11:06:55] arbitrage101 : getting paid here every 8 hours is nice
[2017-01-24 11:07:00] Ahhere : Anyone else manage to buy in the 860s?
[2017-01-24 11:07:22] VenCap : wow 860 bargain
[2017-01-24 11:07:59] VenCap : maybe.... tomrrow is a different day
[2017-01-24 11:08:14] enki0182 : the floor is yet to be tested
[2017-01-24 11:08:24] arbitrage101 : what is the floor?
[2017-01-24 11:08:41] VenCap : yes, what is the floor?
[2017-01-24 11:09:26] VenCap : below 6200 cny?
[2017-01-24 11:09:51] enki0182 : i ant see it going below 820.
[2017-01-24 11:10:07] enki0182 : but i dont think we are there yet.
[2017-01-24 11:10:10] VenCap : 5,60 cny region
[2017-01-24 11:10:15] VenCap : at that price
[2017-01-24 11:11:01] laisee : cheap coins ... fill yer boots
[2017-01-24 11:11:35] cryptwrecked : fml, we are where I shorted from 8 hours ago....and subsequently got rekt
[2017-01-24 11:11:42] VenCap : I'm noly wearing flip flops
[2017-01-24 11:11:45] VenCap : cant get much in these
[2017-01-24 11:12:08] cryptwrecked : I can't even afford second hand socks now
[2017-01-24 11:12:56] VenCap : socks just make feet sweat, much better not to wear any, look on the bright side
[2017-01-24 11:13:27] cryptwrecked : the bright side is i'm out of funds and therefore have nothing left to lose
[2017-01-24 11:13:34] micmix : move to some cheap southern country, won't need any socks or house
[2017-01-24 11:13:55] cryptwrecked : i'm moving to thailand, so it'll be sandals all year round for me
[2017-01-24 11:14:04] VenCap : perfect!
[2017-01-24 11:14:07] VenCap : :O)
[2017-01-24 11:14:19] VenCap : the sock situation that is
[2017-01-24 11:14:20] arbitrage101 : micmix: yea i am thinking of moving to rural area
[2017-01-24 11:14:25] micmix : guys, if you are still long get out
[2017-01-24 11:14:25] arbitrage101 : country side
[2017-01-24 11:14:40] VenCap : yeah, this i not gonig to rebound liek before.. theres intent in this move
[2017-01-24 11:14:50] arbitrage101 : dont want to deal with high maintenance incity
[2017-01-24 11:14:57] arbitrage101 : city
[2017-01-24 11:14:58] Apocalyptic : micmix: you're MMing this hee ?
[2017-01-24 11:15:02] Apocalyptic : *here ?
[2017-01-24 11:15:20] micmix : yeah but small limits and wide spread
[2017-01-24 11:15:35] micmix : no cheap hedging anymore
[2017-01-24 11:15:41] arbitrage101 : micmix: think we will enter a long bear market?
[2017-01-24 11:15:53] micmix : it's very possible
[2017-01-24 11:16:19] micmix : Chinese gambling was one of the main bitcoin use cases
[2017-01-24 11:16:29] enki0182 : micmix: I agree - but only about half the time of the last one (or less)
[2017-01-24 11:17:01] enki0182 : could be even as short as a few weeks or few months
[2017-01-24 11:17:32] enki0182 : but the only thing that will bring the price up for real.. is real fiat - which takes time to get into the exchanges.
[2017-01-24 11:17:44] micmix : maybe, these things are hard to predict
[2017-01-24 11:17:54] Farzad : micmix: I agree, get out of longs
[2017-01-24 11:17:54] micmix : but cny liquidity looks really scary
[2017-01-24 11:18:19] Farzad : I can feel it is going to fall more
[2017-01-24 11:20:01] VenCap : Farzad, something about the Bitcoin transaction blocked up and getting released in these next 2hrs also
[2017-01-24 11:20:13] micmix : it will take some time for the market to adjust to the new reality
[2017-01-24 11:20:33] arbitrage101 : bitmex might actually benefit from this
[2017-01-24 11:20:44] arbitrage101 : chiense always find other way around to gamble
[2017-01-24 11:21:06] VenCap : Bitmex could really become a top exchange, fees the only thing stopping it right now
[2017-01-24 11:21:20] VenCap : half less fess, get x5 as many customers = cha ching!
[2017-01-24 11:21:25] Farzad : VenCap: Do you mean the mempool size ?
[2017-01-24 11:21:29] arbitrage101 : fee is reasonble low for a good platform
[2017-01-24 11:21:42] VenCap : not sure what it was, some other trader posted link.
[2017-01-24 11:21:43] rapidtrades : yeah fees here are awful
[2017-01-24 11:22:02] arbitrage101 : compare to finex, stamp and kraken?
[2017-01-24 11:22:32] rapidtrades : FOR THE LAST TIME THIS IS NOT AN EXCHANGE
[2017-01-24 11:22:43] arbitrage101 : what is it?
[2017-01-24 11:22:46] Apocalyptic : rapidtrades: u mad bro ?
[2017-01-24 11:22:55] Apocalyptic : got adl'd I bet
[2017-01-24 11:23:26] enki0182 : rapidtrades: its a casino
[2017-01-24 11:23:39] arbitrage101 : multi usage if you know what you are doing
[2017-01-24 11:23:39] rapidtrades : arbitrage101: futures platform
[2017-01-24 11:23:54] Farzad : mempool size is about 30MB now !
[2017-01-24 11:24:02] Farzad : so many unconfirmed transactions there
[2017-01-24 11:24:11] micmix : it says right here in the footer: > BitMEX - Bitcoin Mercantile Exchange is a cryptocurrency derivatives trading platform.
[2017-01-24 11:24:11] Farzad : They definitely should increase block size
[2017-01-24 11:24:14] VenCap : i see, certainly a part of it
[2017-01-24 11:24:39] rapidtrades : hard to beliebe that 880 will hold again
[2017-01-24 11:24:44] rapidtrades : yet it did
[2017-01-24 11:24:51] rapidtrades : but bulls are toast
[2017-01-24 11:24:54] rapidtrades : bulls ded
[2017-01-24 11:24:56] laisee : 900 will fall ...
[2017-01-24 11:24:59] rapidtrades : bulls so ded naao
[2017-01-24 11:25:14] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: i am still waiting for the dip to buy at huge discount
[2017-01-24 11:25:17] Farzad : it will break 880
[2017-01-24 11:25:33] VenCap : bounce before the trounce
[2017-01-24 11:25:41] laisee : a battle for the very sooul of 900 is going on now ...
[2017-01-24 11:26:02] Farzad : soul of 900 is toast
[2017-01-24 11:26:28] laisee : 900 is being toasted and will be ready soon
[2017-01-24 11:26:34] l3f : rapidtrades: rapidbears WILL have his revenge!
[2017-01-24 11:26:47] l3f : How could the bulls be so blind
[2017-01-24 11:26:50] l3f : nobody saw this cominly
[2017-01-24 11:26:55] l3f : if only we listen to rapidtrades
[2017-01-24 11:27:11] l3f : coming*
[2017-01-24 11:28:01] micmix : rapidtrades: everyone's dead. bitcoin dead. it will be used only to pay for stuff, send money to people and other such nonsense. no more gambling
[2017-01-24 11:28:03] laisee : rapidtrades is a prfit without honour in his trollbox
[2017-01-24 11:28:21] micmix : I mean trading
[2017-01-24 11:28:31] laisee : micmix: we'll always have purse.io, bro ... ;-(
[2017-01-24 11:29:00] l3f : micmix: I'll miss bitcoin
[2017-01-24 11:29:28] micmix : you mean you'll miss gambling with it ;-) @l3f
[2017-01-24 11:29:49] l3f : and all of its pumps and dumps
[2017-01-24 11:29:55] laisee : it was shitty asset for gambling, TBH. But it kinda did the p2p trasnfer ok for a while ...
[2017-01-24 11:30:01] VenCap : i think bitcoin is set to get more stable soon
[2017-01-24 11:30:04] l3f : micmix: now I'll have to work out this tax situation
[2017-01-24 11:30:05] l3f : lmao
[2017-01-24 11:30:08] VenCap : this is the start of bitcoin mature years...
[2017-01-24 11:30:15] VenCap : say goodbye to the crazy teen years
[2017-01-24 11:30:51] laisee : heh. until the d.i.v.o.r.c.e.
[2017-01-24 11:30:58] bingbongfly : VenCap: btc is only 9 years old, in 4 years btc will be a teen
[2017-01-24 11:31:03] micmix : laisee: p2p transfer kinda died when everyone was hodling
[2017-01-24 11:31:05] bingbongfly : we still have some nice times before that
[2017-01-24 11:31:08] VenCap : or dear lol
[2017-01-24 11:31:25] VenCap : hide the booze!
[2017-01-24 11:31:34] VenCap : lock up the milfs
[2017-01-24 11:32:08] laisee : ... BTC buys a red sportscar and gets a hot young GF ...
[2017-01-24 11:32:15] rapidtrades : bitcorns? anyone wants to buy some bitcorns?
[2017-01-24 11:32:26] Noobz : 6200 okc testing
[2017-01-24 11:32:28] abbey : double bottom, please
[2017-01-24 11:32:37] Apocalyptic : Noobz: wait for 6k
[2017-01-24 11:32:43] micmix : laisee: then GF leaves and takes all the money
[2017-01-24 11:32:48] VenCap : should bounce hard on 6k right?
[2017-01-24 11:32:55] VenCap : or fall though like dead donkey?
[2017-01-24 11:32:59] Noobz : Apocalyptic: ;)
[2017-01-24 11:33:04] rapidtrades : abbey it would be fifth or sixth bottom so it aint happening
[2017-01-24 11:33:06] VenCap : who is short in this?
[2017-01-24 11:33:23] Apocalyptic : VenCap: you can guess
[2017-01-24 11:33:25] rapidtrades : the odds of holding are so low, as ur odds ur dad is ur real bio father
[2017-01-24 11:33:44] VenCap : i know the milk man is my real dad :O)
[2017-01-24 11:33:52] l3f : Man I wish I made the leaderboard
[2017-01-24 11:33:54] laisee : I still have some 9.98 in fiat, so guess I'm still a little short BTC
[2017-01-24 11:33:55] VenCap : i am lactose intolelrant
[2017-01-24 11:33:55] l3f : that's my last wish
[2017-01-24 11:33:59] l3f : so close to the leaderboard
[2017-01-24 11:34:06] VenCap : what leader board? for what?
[2017-01-24 11:34:06] l3f : so I can be enshrined next to all the other degenerates
[2017-01-24 11:34:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 10000 @ 895.02
[2017-01-24 11:34:12] REKT : Liquidated long on `XBTUSD`: sell 1177 @ 894.97
[2017-01-24 11:34:15] VenCap : if there is one for epic REKT of the week, im on it
[2017-01-24 11:34:26] l3f : VenCap: https://www.bitmex.com/app/leaderboard
[2017-01-24 11:34:39] l3f : I needed another 20xbt profit
[2017-01-24 11:34:42] l3f : to get on
[2017-01-24 11:34:43] laisee : such goals, VenCap. You will go far in this crazy Bitcoin thing ...
[2017-01-24 11:34:48] VenCap : wow 677 btc profit
[2017-01-24 11:35:30] l3f : VenCap: Wow that guy lost like 100 xbt
[2017-01-24 11:35:33] l3f : he was 700+ before
[2017-01-24 11:35:35] l3f : holy crap
[2017-01-24 11:35:41] VenCap : whoa
[2017-01-24 11:35:50] l3f : he get rekt hard
[2017-01-24 11:35:53] l3f : got*
[2017-01-24 11:35:55] VenCap : how do you choose leaderboard name?
[2017-01-24 11:36:00] VenCap : or is it the same as this one?
[2017-01-24 11:36:07] l3f : it's a jumbled name
[2017-01-24 11:36:09] VenCap : and it does not show biggest losers?
[2017-01-24 11:36:13] l3f : unless you choose not to hide yours
[2017-01-24 11:36:17] l3f : VenCap: of course not
[2017-01-24 11:36:26] l3f : leaderboard not loserboard
[2017-01-24 11:36:31] VenCap : lols. true
[2017-01-24 11:36:45] VenCap : so this is overall? ongoing. not weekly, monthly
[2017-01-24 11:36:54] VenCap : 677 btc still mega profits
[2017-01-24 11:36:55] l3f : all time
[2017-01-24 11:37:10] VenCap : if you went short at says 920 and hold till 720 that would be ncie gains
[2017-01-24 11:37:21] VenCap : with 1/4m contracts
[2017-01-24 11:37:36] VenCap : is there a limit to how much you cna make in one trade?
[2017-01-24 11:37:42] l3f : no
[2017-01-24 11:37:51] VenCap : bitmex dont auto close people ?
[2017-01-24 11:37:54] VenCap : for winning?
[2017-01-24 11:38:28] j8 : you are higher priority for being deleveraged if you're way in profit
[2017-01-24 11:38:46] VenCap : i see. all lights lit
[2017-01-24 11:39:28] l3f : Hey micmix
[2017-01-24 11:39:35] pumper : BTFD
[2017-01-24 11:39:39] l3f : as MM, how do you hedge your xbtrisk?
[2017-01-24 11:40:04] micmix : l3f: who needs hedging when bitcoin never goes down?
[2017-01-24 11:40:15] l3f : micmix: true dat
[2017-01-24 11:40:16] arbitrage101 : i got a new girlfriend
[2017-01-24 11:40:18] l3f : but in case you know
[2017-01-24 11:40:22] l3f : arbitrage101: gratz
[2017-01-24 11:40:34] arbitrage101 : almost 15 years younger than me
[2017-01-24 11:40:36] rapidtrades : arbitrage101: noone cares
[2017-01-24 11:40:44] arbitrage101 : rapidtrades: you do
[2017-01-24 11:40:46] l3f : arbitrage101: nice
[2017-01-24 11:40:58] l3f : if my gf was 15 years younger I'd go to jail
[2017-01-24 11:41:19] arbitrage101 : l3f: you are too young? or live in a backward country?
[2017-01-24 11:41:25] laisee : l3f: something to look fwd to
[2017-01-24 11:41:47] l3f : I'm like 12
[2017-01-24 11:41:50] l3f : (jk)
[2017-01-24 11:41:59] Noobz : arbitrage101: in a backward country he could probably marry her
[2017-01-24 11:42:21] l3f : Noobz: Nice try Mohammad
[2017-01-24 11:42:45] l3f : I am not the prophet
[2017-01-24 11:43:00] arbitrage101 : the bounce is quick
[2017-01-24 11:43:02] abbey : moon
[2017-01-24 11:43:08] arbitrage101 : think we will hit 1000 before new year
[2017-01-24 11:43:14] arbitrage101 : then crash back to 300
[2017-01-24 11:43:19] l3f : arbitrage101: same
[2017-01-24 11:43:19] arbitrage101 : 2017-2018
[2017-01-24 11:43:49] micmix : arbitrage101: give me 1k before Chinese New Year
[2017-01-24 11:44:04] arbitrage101 : micmix: you need to unload your long?
[2017-01-24 11:44:09] abbey : arbitrage101: 1000 in 24 hours?
[2017-01-24 11:44:17] micmix : nah, I'm hedged
[2017-01-24 11:44:30] arbitrage101 : where did you hedge
[2017-01-24 11:44:50] micmix : not here obviously
[2017-01-24 11:44:51] rapidtrades : we saw this can't go down bullshit and how it ended few weeks ago
[2017-01-24 11:44:56] rapidtrades : guess ppl have short memories
[2017-01-24 11:44:56] arbitrage101 : hedging here (long) is too expensive
[2017-01-24 11:46:07] VenCap : so in 14mins shorters are going to get big Tax bill right?
[2017-01-24 11:46:10] arbitrage101 : sorry, i mean, shorting here
[2017-01-24 11:46:17] VenCap : how we will know how much we get Taxed?
[2017-01-24 11:46:30] arbitrage101 : VenCap: where do you live?
[2017-01-24 11:46:37] VenCap : Europe
[2017-01-24 11:46:53] arbitrage101 : is bitmex going to report your trading activiy here?
[2017-01-24 11:46:57] arbitrage101 : to your country that is
[2017-01-24 11:47:04] VenCap : no idea what countries do they report??
[2017-01-24 11:47:24] arbitrage101 : how does your country know you make money?
[2017-01-24 11:47:39] VenCap : should be ok :)
[2017-01-24 11:47:47] Noobz : l3f: just responding to backwards country thats all
[2017-01-24 11:47:59] l3f : heh
[2017-01-24 11:48:10] Noobz : VenCap: youlost so much you might get it deducted from taxes
[2017-01-24 11:48:21] Noobz : if you report it
[2017-01-24 11:48:27] Noobz : in your country
[2017-01-24 11:50:36] VenCap : thiss is gambling....
[2017-01-24 11:51:33] Noobz : how does your country tax bitcoins?
[2017-01-24 11:52:33] VenCap : its the UK not sure TBH
[2017-01-24 11:54:41] VenCap : bounce happening.. back to 920?
[2017-01-24 11:54:49] VenCap : crazy spike again?
[2017-01-24 11:55:00] ngfdcn : omg i keep setting two stops and one gets executed and the 2nd keeps getting canceled happened two times today...
[2017-01-24 11:55:42] VenCap : how do we know how much we get tazed here soon 4mins?
[2017-01-24 11:56:11] Noobz : 0.2586 % of your position
[2017-01-24 11:56:13] arbitrage101 : VenCap: you mean funding rate
[2017-01-24 11:56:47] arbitrage101 : if you are short this period, you pay
[2017-01-24 11:56:52] arbitrage101 : and long get paid
[2017-01-24 11:57:30] airitout : mod, I have entered a limit price to short and order got automatically executed at market price.
[2017-01-24 11:57:39] airitout : why is this?
[2017-01-24 11:58:06] arbitrage101 : airitout: your limit price match the market price?
[2017-01-24 11:58:16] arbitrage101 : not mod here btw
[2017-01-24 11:58:29] airitout : no, it was set @ 897
[2017-01-24 11:58:36] arbitrage101 : buy or sell?
[2017-01-24 11:58:40] airitout : sell
[2017-01-24 11:58:53] arbitrage101 : the price dip not long ago and bouce back
[2017-01-24 11:59:03] VenCap : so should of closed short and went hard long and got a ncie bonus right?
[2017-01-24 11:59:25] airitout : arbitrage101: it was immidiate
[2017-01-24 12:00:29] VenCap : WHOA WTF... 0.7BTC taxed...
[2017-01-24 12:00:34] VenCap : thats insane
[2017-01-24 12:00:44] arbitrage101 : @VenCap you have a large position?
[2017-01-24 12:00:55] VenCap : 0.7542 fk me
[2017-01-24 12:01:02] VenCap : 260k contracts
[2017-01-24 12:01:09] VenCap : ok.... thats no on.
[2017-01-24 12:01:12] VenCap : not on
[2017-01-24 12:01:20] arbitrage101 : VenCap: pretty big fish you are
[2017-01-24 12:01:39] VenCap : not really. dunno. big fish has 1,000k i am not big fish
[2017-01-24 12:02:01] arbitrage101 : well, 1000k is whale
[2017-01-24 12:02:22] arbitrage101 : 260k is still pretty big in my book
[2017-01-24 12:02:29] VenCap : sorry one thousand btc
[2017-01-24 12:02:35] arbitrage101 : since the max position i have never exceed 100k
[2017-01-24 12:02:48] VenCap : i am crazy i liek to go all in
[2017-01-24 12:02:58] charlyko : +0.03btc comision to me. lol
[2017-01-24 12:03:19] VenCap : next time i close positions, go hard on what the tax pays to
[2017-01-24 12:03:24] VenCap : smart way to do it
[2017-01-24 12:03:25] l3f : Degenerate gambler teir
[2017-01-24 12:03:27] l3f : confirmed
[2017-01-24 12:03:28] l3f : VenCap:
[2017-01-24 12:03:35] charlyko : hahaha
[2017-01-24 12:03:43] arbitrage101 : VenCap: i dont think you are good at trading
[2017-01-24 12:03:47] VenCap : kinda. most funds in alts
[2017-01-24 12:03:54] VenCap : no, i am good at gambling though
[2017-01-24 12:03:54] arbitrage101 : what do you do before ?
[2017-01-24 12:03:58] charlyko : buy Faircoin and win 2017
[2017-01-24 12:04:00] VenCap : cant say
[2017-01-24 12:04:14] l3f : arbitrage101: "There is no point in being confident and having a small position."
[2017-01-24 12:04:17] l3f : - GS
[2017-01-24 12:05:19] VenCap : exactly.
[2017-01-24 12:05:29] VenCap : that tax was a kick in the balls
[2017-01-24 12:05:33] Apocalyptic : l3f: George wants you guys to get rekt
[2017-01-24 12:05:37] VenCap : .75 BTC wow
[2017-01-24 12:05:40] arbitrage101 : the term is funding
[2017-01-24 12:05:47] VenCap : 675 USD
[2017-01-24 12:05:52] Apocalyptic : risk management is a thing, however confident you are
[2017-01-24 12:05:57] l3f : Apocalyptic: I have 0 xbt in my account
[2017-01-24 12:05:59] l3f : fyi
[2017-01-24 12:06:01] VenCap : the term is robbery , Home Invasion lols
[2017-01-24 12:06:09] Apocalyptic : l3f: solid position there
[2017-01-24 12:06:12] l3f : Jan 22, 2017, 10:41:15 PM Withdrawal -60.6499 XBT
[2017-01-24 12:06:23] l3f : I'm 100% usd
[2017-01-24 12:06:34] Noobz : smart move
[2017-01-24 12:06:53] VenCap : very smart!
[2017-01-24 12:06:55] l3f : I don't want to short here and then get spiked to 1k
[2017-01-24 12:07:04] l3f : don't want to pay that funding to hedge here
[2017-01-24 12:07:06] l3f : so I'm in usd
[2017-01-24 12:07:11] VenCap : i am still not breaking even from sunday
[2017-01-24 12:07:20] VenCap : but when i do. i will be withdrawing funds.
[2017-01-24 12:07:25] VenCap : fees too high for me.
[2017-01-24 12:07:45] VenCap : 5% tax on margin
[2017-01-24 12:07:47] VenCap : mental
[2017-01-24 12:08:52] Noobz : im just a little shrimp here lol, but just over a week in and i wd'd my initial so i'm good. slowly checking things out
[2017-01-24 12:09:52] VenCap : cna fees be lowered here?
[2017-01-24 12:09:53] l3f : I really wanted that leaderboard
[2017-01-24 12:09:53] l3f : sigh
[2017-01-24 12:10:03] l3f : VenCap: funding goes down once people stop going short so much
[2017-01-24 12:10:09] l3f : then it may go +ve
[2017-01-24 12:10:18] VenCap : you loose a hell of a lot more going long now
[2017-01-24 12:10:23] l3f : it changes depending on the number of long/short positions
[2017-01-24 12:10:35] VenCap : its liek a casino saying here 5% back after blowing £200k in a night
[2017-01-24 12:10:54] VenCap : so now it says 0.288%
[2017-01-24 12:10:56] VenCap : so higher
[2017-01-24 12:10:59] VenCap : more shorting yes?
[2017-01-24 12:13:43] l3f : VenCap: Short the future
[2017-01-24 12:13:46] l3f : if you don't want to pay funding
[2017-01-24 12:14:04] VenCap : i like things simle
[2017-01-24 12:14:06] VenCap : no idea what future is
[2017-01-24 12:14:12] l3f : XBTH17
[2017-01-24 12:14:31] VenCap : i was told thats a wild ride
[2017-01-24 12:14:37] j8 : swap is not simple
[2017-01-24 12:14:53] j8 : as you've learned the funding can be crazy and it's every 8 hours
[2017-01-24 12:15:18] j8 : trade an actual spot market if you want simple
[2017-01-24 12:19:13] VenCap : this is simple
[2017-01-24 12:19:15] VenCap : what ever this is
[2017-01-24 12:19:56] rapidtrades : this looks like china whales are dumping and stupid western moonkids buying
[2017-01-24 12:20:19] j8 : it's made to look simple, but if you think it is then you probably don't really understand it @VenCap
[2017-01-24 12:20:22] VenCap : exactly liek that
[2017-01-24 12:20:41] VenCap : i buy long or short. i sell when make profits
[2017-01-24 12:22:12] j8 : and complain when you get charged funding
[2017-01-24 12:22:18] j8 : but that's part of it
[2017-01-24 12:22:58] j8 : how do you know your trade profit will be more than you pay in funding if you ignore that part?
[2017-01-24 12:23:16] l3f : rapidtrades: Sure looks like it
[2017-01-24 12:23:22] l3f : a dump attempt every 12 hours
[2017-01-24 12:23:32] rapidtrades : what can't retrace will crash
[2017-01-24 12:23:39] rapidtrades : it's inevitable
[2017-01-24 12:23:52] VenCap : go to 920 and i will short the life out of this
[2017-01-24 12:25:03] l3f : rapidtrades: but muh etf
[2017-01-24 12:26:04] rapidtrades : that crap will not get approved
[2017-01-24 12:26:47] abz : Bitcoin is on a verge http://zentrade.online/bitcoinusd-price-action-analysis-bitmex-perpetual-swap-xbtusd-update-20170124/
[2017-01-24 12:29:42] aethlios : why the 100% reverse all moves? stupid manipulators.
[2017-01-24 12:32:34] airitout : MAX Price will be 912 then bear trend will continue, if not continuing now
[2017-01-24 12:32:36] j8 : china bots are in a bad mood, they need to get creative now with 0.4% round trip
[2017-01-24 12:35:02] Ahhere : Lol this is like the final scene in terminator #death throes
[2017-01-24 12:38:10] l3f : aethlios: they need the price high to exit
[2017-01-24 12:38:17] l3f : they lost control of futures
[2017-01-24 12:38:20] l3f : spot is their last defence
[2017-01-24 12:38:30] l3f : They're just proping it up to exit now
[2017-01-24 12:40:15] l3f : Those wicks down were dumps and then propped back up so exit higher
[2017-01-24 12:40:20] l3f : and exit into the panic buys
[2017-01-24 12:40:41] l3f : doom will come
[2017-01-24 12:41:05] VenCap : new year also.
[2017-01-24 12:41:19] l3f : Yeah CNY week of party and hookers for rich Chinese guys
[2017-01-24 12:41:30] l3f : don't want to have to look at btc during this period of celebration
[2017-01-24 12:41:31] VenCap : Golden Roosters for all
[2017-01-24 12:41:34] VenCap : Golden Eggs
[2017-01-24 12:41:42] VenCap : Golden Showers!
[2017-01-24 12:41:47] VenCap : ...
[2017-01-24 12:47:16] VenCap : OKcoin trying to break 6k it seems
[2017-01-24 12:49:19] abbey : well not really
[2017-01-24 12:49:34] VenCap : no. holding 6200 very well TBH
[2017-01-24 12:49:54] l3f : Predicted Funding Rate -0.3253% In 15 hours
[2017-01-24 12:49:54] VenCap : abbey: wouldyou go long from here?
[2017-01-24 12:49:56] l3f : are your bodies ready?
[2017-01-24 12:50:25] VenCap : so if i have no position when funding timer runs out i do not get taxed?
[2017-01-24 12:50:38] l3f : yes
[2017-01-24 12:50:54] l3f : only if you have a position when it ticks over you get hit by funding
[2017-01-24 12:50:57] VenCap : great, next time i will not have a position open.
[2017-01-24 12:51:00] abbey : i don't have to worry about it because already long with profitable position
[2017-01-24 12:51:17] VenCap : abbey: what was your entry price? 880 ?
[2017-01-24 12:51:43] airitout : between 1500 and 1600 next big dump
[2017-01-24 12:51:51] airitout : CEST
[2017-01-24 12:51:59] abbey : it's 867.49 now
[2017-01-24 12:52:01] VenCap : 3pm and 4pm european time, thank you airitout
[2017-01-24 12:52:11] VenCap : wow very nice position.
[2017-01-24 12:52:21] VenCap : nice gains
[2017-01-24 12:52:36] VenCap : are you on the leaderboard?
[2017-01-24 12:52:44] airitout : lol
[2017-01-24 12:53:12] abbey : VenCap: doubt it
[2017-01-24 12:53:23] VenCap : airitout are you?
[2017-01-24 12:53:30] airitout : no
[2017-01-24 12:54:01] VenCap : hard to get on leaderboard right?
[2017-01-24 12:54:10] VenCap : whats minimum profits now around 65btc?
[2017-01-24 12:54:17] airitout : ive made approx 6 btc in the course of a week
[2017-01-24 12:54:18] VenCap : per year?
[2017-01-24 12:54:22] airitout : just starting trading in here
[2017-01-24 12:54:33] VenCap : nie, me too, last week, until sunday and i got rekt.
[2017-01-24 12:54:40] VenCap : so chasing it.
[2017-01-24 12:54:58] VenCap : now with this position just about breaking even.
[2017-01-24 12:55:33] VenCap : when i am out of this, i will buy new car. and count myself very lucky
[2017-01-24 12:55:33] airitout : if price hits 800 ill buy a nice car
[2017-01-24 12:55:41] airitout : lool
[2017-01-24 12:55:47] airitout : at the same time
[2017-01-24 12:55:49] VenCap : Mazda ?
[2017-01-24 12:55:53] airitout : loool
[2017-01-24 12:55:56] VenCap : cx-5 for me.
[2017-01-24 12:56:09] airitout : ill stick to the german brans
[2017-01-24 12:56:13] airitout : brands
[2017-01-24 12:56:19] VenCap : not what they used to be, Japan way better
[2017-01-24 12:56:23] VenCap : they dont cheap on tests
[2017-01-24 12:56:27] VenCap : they have morals.
[2017-01-24 12:56:36] VenCap : code of conduct, Germans not to betrusted
[2017-01-24 12:56:47] airitout : lol why? are you jewish?
[2017-01-24 12:57:07] VenCap : No, its true Japan make better cars than cheating Germany